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005 - Y2K Bug Did What Now? · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: You're listening to an Airwave media podcast. Love My Happy
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Speaker 1: New Year, everybody, and welcome back to Who Did Want Now?
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Speaker 1: The Historical comedy Comedy, Historical Funny, I mean I try
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Speaker 1: and be funny. Let should say history The history podcast with.
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Speaker 2: Me You're.
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Speaker 1: Effervescent Host Kittie Charlwood, selfish millennial and reader of books. Ah,
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Speaker 1: the new year is upon us, twenty twenty has has gone.
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Speaker 1: I am moving and making noise on a letter couch.
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Speaker 1: Sounds dodgy, but yeah, so twenty twenty. The dumpster fire
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Speaker 1: that was twenty twenty is something that I think I'll
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Speaker 1: be talking about if this continues on, like I hope
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Speaker 1: it will. One day I will be in some sort
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Speaker 1: of history show discussing the perils of twenty twenty. Although
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Speaker 1: now I do actually start to wish I'd kept a
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Speaker 1: journal because this year, this year's just been. However, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty is the best example of time travel, because you
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Speaker 1: know how in sort of time travel movies they would
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Speaker 1: just keep going back in time when they'd fix something
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Speaker 1: and then something else would mess up. That's what twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty was like. Although I maintain all of this started
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Speaker 1: with the Cats movie in twenty nineteen, and that was
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Speaker 1: just an affront to God, I don't know the powers
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Speaker 1: that be and led to the travesty that was twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: although twenty twenty wasn't too bad for me. Actually twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one starts with me moving back home to my
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Speaker 1: mother's house. But eh, you and smulism, and it's as
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Speaker 1: good a place to start as Edni. Hey if you're
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Speaker 1: If you're not in your here, welcome back. And first
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Speaker 1: of all, I would like to apologize for the last episode.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, not an excuse. I was up till stupid
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning editing it, and I was literally
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Speaker 1: falling asleep as I was working on it, and may
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Speaker 1: actually have to re upload it, a re edit it,
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Speaker 1: and re upload it because.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, wow, wow wow.
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Speaker 1: Clearly you can tell that I was not complismentous like
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Speaker 1: editing that, because ah, like there are parts where it
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Speaker 1: just cuts off before the end of the sentence, like
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Speaker 1: what was I doing? Like I was half asleep, like
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Speaker 1: trying to drink coffee tipid coffee, and I am so sorry.
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Speaker 1: You deserve better pals, you do, I mean, and and
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Speaker 1: also in addition, furthermore, I feel like I should have
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Speaker 1: used some kind of software to slow down my speech,
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Speaker 1: because I only just realized because I I, you know,
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Speaker 1: sometimes I'll really listen to, you know, the podcast after
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Speaker 1: uploaded it, just to see. So I had it on
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, doing stuff for the house,
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Speaker 1: and I was listening to myself because that's not weird,
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Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, parts legit sound like I've been
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Speaker 1: sped up, Like I sound like somebody turned the Chipmunk
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Speaker 1: effect on and just let me I believe or not.
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Speaker 1: I actually had to train myself to speak slower. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I had to.
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Speaker 2: It was something I had to do.
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Speaker 1: When you talk quickly, when you have quick, fast speech
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Speaker 1: and you have this accent, it's a recipe for disaster.
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Speaker 1: And the problem is, I get excited when two of
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Speaker 1: my favorite interests collide. History plus true crime. H Chef's
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Speaker 1: kiss ah like yes, please and thank you. However, I
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Speaker 1: will do better to rein it in in the future.
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Speaker 1: I will, I will, I will be.
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Speaker 2: Better in the future. I am trying. I promise.
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Speaker 1: I was so surprised that I wasn't. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: knew I was excited, like doing the story and writing
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Speaker 1: about it and reading it, but I didn't think I was,
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Speaker 1: like I did not think. I did not think I was.
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Speaker 1: Like in other news, storm Bell was raging outside. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to say region it's it's not it's what ticked off,
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Speaker 1: you know. So there was thunder and lightning and so
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Speaker 1: like when I was actually writing this down. This shows
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Speaker 1: you the time it's taken me to write this and
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Speaker 1: then record it. Because as I was writing this, storm
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Speaker 1: Bell I was happening, and there was like thunder and lightning,
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Speaker 1: and there was like snow and hail and stuff. And anyway,
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Speaker 1: the storm wasn't that bad because very few people lost
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Speaker 1: trampolines where I am. If you don't see a trampoline
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Speaker 1: fly past your house, you know it's it's not been
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Speaker 1: a terrible storm. So today's tale is from the not
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Speaker 1: so distant past, the millennium. I mean, well, I say
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Speaker 1: the millennium, but that's not technically correct. I'm gonna well
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Speaker 1: actually myself here, so general people would refer to like
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Speaker 1: the year two thousand as the millennium, except you don't
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Speaker 1: start year zero, you started your one. So technically two
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Speaker 1: thousand and one, not two thousand, was the millennium.
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Speaker 2: But two thousand is more.
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Speaker 1: Ecesthetically, please saying, and you know it fits better on
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Speaker 1: those like Happy New Year glasses and you know other
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Speaker 1: such memorabilia. So that the nineties, the nineties were.
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Speaker 2: A wild time.
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Speaker 1: Nobody had eyebrows, SCAA bands were popular, and everyone thought
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Speaker 1: the world was going to be destroyed by Y two K.
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Speaker 1: Well not everyone, but we'll discuss that.
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Speaker 2: And what is why two K?
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Speaker 1: I hear, I hear some of you ask, Well, I've
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Speaker 1: seen enough of gen Z being very confused about why
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Speaker 1: took on TikTok, and so here I am so to
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Speaker 1: all of the gen Z you have no idea. Let
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Speaker 1: me enlighten you, my friends, if any gen Z actually
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Speaker 1: listened to my podcast, I don't know if you do,
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Speaker 1: But hi, Hi two K? Why is year two is
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Speaker 1: two and K is thousand? So Y two K is
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Speaker 1: year two thousand, and it's the year two thousand problem,
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Speaker 1: otherwise known as the Y two K bug or glitch,
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Speaker 1: And what I would have known it as was the
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Speaker 1: millennium bug?
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Speaker 2: Makes you sound cute, Donner. Look, it's just it's a
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Speaker 2: leader bug. It's a millennium bug.
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Speaker 1: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: No, So there was an issue.
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Speaker 1: And or events which are basically related to the formatting
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Speaker 1: of calendar dates.
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Speaker 2: Beginning in the year two thousand.
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Speaker 1: I know you're like, what, okay, so right, we should
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Speaker 1: probably start at the beginning. In the sixties, data was expensive,
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Speaker 1: like wildly expensive. So when computer programmers were like writing
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Speaker 1: code and creating programs and all the processes, they had
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Speaker 1: to do so in as efficiently as possible costwise, to sparely.
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Speaker 1: So I mean like nowadays we have terabyte hard drives,
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Speaker 1: our phones, our phones like my iPhone. These phones have
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Speaker 1: more storage space on them, more computer memory on them
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Speaker 1: than the original computers did. It's like, I know some
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Speaker 1: of you have seen those like photos of old computers
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Speaker 1: and they would take up an entire room. And now
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Speaker 1: we have better, quicker, stronger processes and the palm of
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Speaker 1: our hands and that's I mean, that's amazing.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So going down the way, so we would like
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Speaker 1: terabyte like a thousand gigs. I think it is a gigabyte,
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Speaker 1: which is like a thousand megabytes. So megabytes are a
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Speaker 1: thousand bits bites bits, So yeah, basically it would cost
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Speaker 1: it was it three quarters about trillion dollars in today's
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Speaker 1: money out of space that these programs like would indeed,
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Speaker 1: so when they could cut costs, they did their best.
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Speaker 1: So when these programmers were initially writing code, they didn't
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Speaker 1: have a lot of storage space and computer memory to
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Speaker 1: work with, and the spence they did have was costly.
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Speaker 2: So they did what most of us, any of us.
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Speaker 1: Would do, and they shortened stuff down. And by stuff
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Speaker 1: I mean dates, and by dates I mean years, and
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Speaker 1: by that I mean the format of the years. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: programmers needed to save space a money, and as a result,
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Speaker 1: the year in nineteen sixty nine became six nine, so
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Speaker 1: instead of having the four digits one nine, six nine,
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Speaker 1: they would only have two digits six nine, nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: five live, and so on and so forth. Nine blah
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I mean, here's the thing. They probably
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Speaker 1: thought at some point the code or whatever. As you
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Speaker 1: can see, I'm incredibly technical. The boy thought this was
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Speaker 1: going to be like rewritten and patched at some point.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the sixties, when when computers are
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Speaker 1: in their infancy. I mean, they probably hoped, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't have any idea like how far reaching, you know,
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Speaker 1: computers would go and how important these programs would be
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Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things at thirty forty years down.
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Speaker 2: The line, you know.
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Speaker 1: And let's face it, they had no idea like that
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Speaker 1: their base code was going to be going for this long.
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Speaker 1: And yes, so this two digit year format was utilized
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Speaker 1: by early coders to minimize computer memory, that's the best
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Speaker 1: way to see it. And what this meant was that
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Speaker 1: theoretically computers could interpret the zero zero of two thousand
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Speaker 1: to zero zero zero zero as nineteen hundred. You're thinking,
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Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like a big deal, but it could
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Speaker 1: theoretically cause so many glitches and programs and bugs and
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Speaker 1: computer crashes it could lead to a smorgas board of disaster.
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Speaker 1: So okay, For example, if you think time and date
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter in computers or anything like that, there was
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Speaker 1: a place I worked with a till system that if
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Speaker 1: the internal clock glitched out or stopped working for whatever reason,
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Speaker 1: the entire till system would just freeze, so you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be able to do anything. Like the receipt machine wouldn't work.
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Speaker 1: You couldn't open the til drawer to get money out,
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Speaker 1: you couldn't check anything. Everything would just completely freeze and
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Speaker 1: you would have to own a by day and I
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Speaker 1: D would have to fix it and reset the time
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Speaker 1: for you. And that's something that was a second off,
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Speaker 1: like a split second off, and it would just shut
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Speaker 1: down tires Morga's Board of disaster.
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Speaker 2: Now, so by the time.
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Speaker 1: The nineties rolled around, computers were Even though there wasn't
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Speaker 1: a computer when every home, computers ran so much.
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Speaker 2: Of the world.
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Speaker 1: They were an integral part of daily life. In computers
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Speaker 1: is what run the you know, the electric systems. There's
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Speaker 1: a word for that. What's the word for that? The
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Speaker 1: like the electrics that go through your town and light
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Speaker 1: up all the streets and stuff.
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Speaker 2: How do I not know this word? Could I google it? Probably? Ah?
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Speaker 1: So, So that that thing, the traffic lights sort of
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Speaker 1: air traffic control. The nuclear so the nuclear missile thing
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Speaker 1: was it was like a big part of it because
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Speaker 1: the US, as far as I remember, the in in
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Speaker 1: order to like fire the nuclear missiles, that machine is
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Speaker 1: run on a floppy disc. Now, some of you are like,
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Speaker 1: what is a floppy disc? A floppy disc? If you
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Speaker 1: have you ever seen the save button on a on
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Speaker 1: Microsoft word that that is.
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Speaker 2: A floppy disk. It was like a little plastic thing.
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Speaker 1: With a circle disc of like it tiny. I was like,
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Speaker 1: I was like kind of compared it to like an
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Speaker 1: LP or CD, but I don't know if you know
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Speaker 1: what those things are.
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Speaker 2: So that would be inside and that's what would hold
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Speaker 2: the data.
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Speaker 1: And these were probably what like three inches by three
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Speaker 1: inches or something like that. But the one that's to
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Speaker 1: do with the nuclear missiles in the US, that computer
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Speaker 1: is that's one of the big flobby discs, which is
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Speaker 1: like probably closer.
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Speaker 2: To a five size.
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, so that's the thing. But anyway, so effectively,
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Speaker 1: like you know banking, okay, So like banking systems, they
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Speaker 1: all ran in that anyone who's seen Captain Marvel or
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Speaker 1: was alive in the past would know what a blockbuster
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Speaker 1: video is. So like you would go and you would
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Speaker 1: rent physical videotapes cassettes of movies.
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Speaker 2: And so the way this would work out is.
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Speaker 1: Was that the way that it would glitch out when
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Speaker 1: the time format, when the time sort of went back
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Speaker 1: to nineteen hundred, is it would give you basically a
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Speaker 1: century's worth of late feets for Blockbuster Video, or your
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Speaker 1: mortgage payments would be like huge because they would be
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Speaker 1: out of sync, or they might wipe out your mortgage
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Speaker 1: payment completely and you know what, you know, would be
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Speaker 1: good for you, but terrible for the actual for the
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Speaker 1: banks and stuff. And I put this so so many
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Speaker 1: things they ran on computers to the point where the
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Speaker 1: US actually had a website. The government put out a
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Speaker 1: website being like all about why okay. So there was
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Speaker 1: one that was like for adults and it was all, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is why twok and there's an FAQ and I
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Speaker 1: was like, do you I need to close my bank account?
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Speaker 1: Things like that, and it would be like, no, everything's fine.
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Speaker 1: You know, it would all be it's basically reassurance. And
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Speaker 1: there was like a kid's version, so that was slightly
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Speaker 1: more friendly that would say things like do my parents
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Speaker 1: need to empty their bank account? No? Sorry, somebody knocked
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Speaker 1: and I don't know if my neighbors.
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Speaker 2: Just knock on my wall. No, it's fine, It's it's okay.
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Speaker 1: So in like different countries around the world, they had
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Speaker 1: sort of these websites to sort of eat a pease
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Speaker 1: and eat the cut the yeah, the populace now for
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Speaker 1: people sort of fell into a couple of categories, you know,
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Speaker 1: in general, like sometimes now wider case scene is this
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Speaker 1: mass hysteria for like no reason, like it's a joke
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But but like the reason, like
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Speaker 1: a couple of minor glitches happened, and then another glitch
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Speaker 1: happened this year, which I'll I'll talk about in a minute, but.
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Speaker 2: And there's another one coming.
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Speaker 1: So like we'll talk about those in a week second
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Speaker 1: after after this. So because people fell into a couple
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Speaker 1: of categories, you know, some people were the oh, you know,
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Speaker 1: some things will go wrong, that it will be fine.
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Speaker 1: It's like a lot of people or that I know
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Speaker 1: even when I was I was ten eleven or something
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Speaker 1: like I was, I was young, so twelve, who knows. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I was an age of some kind and fairness. I
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Speaker 1: spent in the millennium vomiting because I got a stomach bug.
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Speaker 1: So basically my mom's cousin.
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Speaker 2: Who has heard it at this.
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Speaker 1: People you know, people who like act like they have
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Speaker 1: money and like you show off like one of them.
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Speaker 1: And so we were all theres for like this big
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Speaker 1: New Year's party, and I started being sick and my
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Speaker 1: Mum was like, you be eating too much chocolate. I
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Speaker 1: mean one, I probably was, but then I wouldn't stop
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Speaker 1: being sick. But I had nat and uncle who had
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Speaker 1: decided because their kids were some really small we're not
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Speaker 1: really small, they had they'd stayed with their Yeah. No,
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Speaker 1: so my my youngest cousin, she must have been still
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Speaker 1: she was a toddler at that point or a baby,
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Speaker 1: and they were like, we're not going to this fucking party.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to do that.
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Speaker 1: And they were like, you know what, bring Cady back
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Speaker 1: to us. We're staying and we're gonna watch all the
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Speaker 1: stuff on the thing. Anyway, So I went back there.
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Speaker 1: I was like, that's the fucking teas right there, bud,
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Speaker 1: And if I go, I'm chilling out, you know, being
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Speaker 1: a bit sick. But they're making me like chicken soup
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Speaker 1: and stuff and I'm just like cuddled on the couch,
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Speaker 1: like watching.
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Speaker 2: The fact it works displays in London and all that.
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Speaker 1: But the point is like I remember being scared, Like
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Speaker 1: I remember being really worried.
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Speaker 2: I mean not just because oh my.
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Speaker 1: God, neighbors dogsh thank you, so anyway, ah, I remember
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Speaker 1: being like really really scared that something bad was gonna happen,
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Speaker 1: like there was there was like this air of like
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Speaker 1: doom about it, and it so yeah, I mean, but
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Speaker 1: that's I digress. And like so some people, you know,
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Speaker 1: they were like, eh, it's fine. Some people had that
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Speaker 1: little bit of like fear following them. But as it
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Speaker 1: turns out, I have an anxiety disorder ah and and
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Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff wrong with me, so like
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Speaker 1: it's no wonder. I was sort of panicking, but it's
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Speaker 1: it's fine anyway. Point being, other people were like, hoax,
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Speaker 1: evan's fine, we're talking about it's nothing. And then you
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Speaker 1: had doomsday preppers, so that effectively.
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Speaker 2: There was a group of people who genuinely, genuinely believed that.
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Speaker 1: This was going to cause ah, I'm not a revolution,
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Speaker 1: an apocalypse. They thought it was going to cause an
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Speaker 1: apocalypse and like everything was going to be off grid.
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Speaker 1: There was gonna be like no electrics and no internet
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Speaker 1: and none of that stuff. And it's probably similar to
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Speaker 1: like people are bud and bunkers, and they were you know,
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Speaker 1: they were getting all their tinned food, oh, their tins,
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Speaker 1: their cans, they were jars, like all of their stuff.
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Speaker 1: They were pregnant, they were like doing their survival schizz.
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Speaker 1: That being said, I know exactly what I'll do when
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Speaker 1: the apocalypse happens, Like I know exactly where I'm going,
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Speaker 1: I know why I'm going there. Ah, I know what
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Speaker 1: I'm bringing with me.
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Speaker 2: And whom. Yes, I didn't bringing my mother.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, so my kids can't leave them behind anyway.
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Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
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Speaker 1: Anyway. So people went full into proper doomstaate prepping, like
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Speaker 1: they were convinced this was going to be the end
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Speaker 1: of life as we know it, and people were genuinely
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Speaker 1: prepared for this, and you can kind of understand it,
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Speaker 1: I mean I can't, you're understand why they would be
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Speaker 1: so terrified, you know, like nuclear reactors, Like people were
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Speaker 1: running off to the wilderness and we're like, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: wait it out a bit, please. So the granted I
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Speaker 1: of the nuclear myself strikes you anywhere like you're you're
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Speaker 1: a goner anyway, But that's neither here nor there.
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Speaker 2: Let's be optimistic.
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Speaker 1: So so like the the general public talk, the talk
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Speaker 1: about the millennium bug didn't really I mean, people weren't
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Speaker 1: really discussing it as much until sort of the end
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Speaker 1: of ninety eight at the beginning of ninety nine. And
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Speaker 1: that's when there's again also the internets in its infancy
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Speaker 1: really for the general public.
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Speaker 2: So it would be in like.
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Speaker 1: The newspapers and the TV shows, the talk shows, and
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Speaker 1: it would sort of show up there. It wasn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: like the radio. It's not like today where you have Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but as far back as ninety seven government had started
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Speaker 1: to put action in place. The Y two K problem
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Speaker 1: was so grand and so encompassing, all encompassing that not
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Speaker 1: only did governments put together task forces and funnel all
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Speaker 1: this money to avert this issue, but so what did
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Speaker 1: private sort of the private sector, so private industry did
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Speaker 1: the same thing, and all in all, it's like Bill
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Speaker 1: Clinton had a task force. And because Bill Clinton had
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Speaker 1: sent to basically putting forth a thing for the the
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Speaker 1: the problem before it was impeached, Bill Clinton got off
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Speaker 1: so much easier than Monica Lewinski did. But I mean
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Speaker 1: even Australia, like only now, just for these documents pertaining
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Speaker 1: to like all of the efforts that they put through
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Speaker 1: put in for Y two K, like companies like Microsoft,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of and PCs, a lot of personal
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Speaker 1: computers that weren't like Apple and Apple Mac before, like
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Speaker 1: iMac and stuff came out. A lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of the computers the PCs would run on would run
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Speaker 1: on Windows, as quite a lot of them still do now.
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Speaker 2: Because what Windows.
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Speaker 1: Did is Windows actually created a CD, a CD for
24:52
Speaker 1: a compact disk, a CD for for Windows users, so
24:57
Speaker 1: that they could, you know, put it into their computer
24:59
Speaker 1: and could patch up and run, you know, so everybody
25:03
Speaker 1: could do it independently, as opposed to trying to start
25:07
Speaker 1: at one source and have the computer update because back
25:10
Speaker 1: back back then, considering it would take you like I
25:17
Speaker 1: remember sitting there and trying to download a song and
25:19
Speaker 1: it took several hours. Like you do not understand the
25:22
Speaker 1: trauma of dial up most of your Oh but anyway,
25:27
Speaker 1: so we take hours download a song or a picture
25:30
Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff. And I mean, yeah,
25:34
Speaker 1: and I was gonna make a pornhubo there I.
25:38
Speaker 2: Desired probably best not to.
25:41
Speaker 1: So like basically they would put it a CD in
25:44
Speaker 1: the CD, he'd put it in and it would update
25:45
Speaker 1: the computer for you and it would do the patch,
25:47
Speaker 1: you know, to stop it going into the dark ages
25:50
Speaker 1: or glitching or just freezing, crashing, anything like that and
25:56
Speaker 1: then like a lot of the a lot of legacy
26:00
Speaker 1: systems as they were called, so the older older systems.
26:03
Speaker 2: They would do things.
26:06
Speaker 1: There was a couple of like solutions they were going
26:08
Speaker 1: to do because like there was a few different approaches
26:12
Speaker 1: depending on.
26:13
Speaker 2: Whatever they were using.
26:14
Speaker 1: So Dad expansion, so that was basically turning the two
26:18
Speaker 1: digit into the four digit, so instead of being eighty seven,
26:23
Speaker 1: it would be nineteen eighty seven, you know, So it
26:25
Speaker 1: was moving it up so that you were it was
26:28
Speaker 1: you know, it was going to register two thousand and
26:30
Speaker 1: not nineteen one hundred.
26:33
Speaker 2: This is seen as I'm going.
26:34
Speaker 1: To call it the purest solution because this resulted in,
26:39
Speaker 1: you know, the dates were unambiguous, they're permanent, they're.
26:43
Speaker 2: Easy to maintain.
26:46
Speaker 1: The issue with a lot of stuff though, is that
26:47
Speaker 1: this was very expensive, Like this was probably the most
26:52
Speaker 1: expensive way to do it, and you know, and there
26:55
Speaker 1: was like lots of it, but it did mean converying
27:00
Speaker 1: entire systems. It was a huge, huge undertaking. Another one
27:05
Speaker 1: was like not a permanent solution, it was more like
27:09
Speaker 1: a patching situation, and it's called date windowing. So everything
27:14
Speaker 1: still stayed as a two digit year, and the programs
27:18
Speaker 1: themselves would determine the century value when they were needed
27:21
Speaker 1: for particular functions, so like date comparisons and calculations, and
27:28
Speaker 1: so this was easier to do because it was a
27:31
Speaker 1: small patch into the code of programs. And this was
27:38
Speaker 1: basically installing small patches of code into programs, and this
27:42
Speaker 1: was like easier to test and implement than date expansion,
27:46
Speaker 1: and it was cheaper to do. It was not a
27:48
Speaker 1: permanent solution, but like they were expecting like legacy systems
27:51
Speaker 1: to be replaced over the coming decades anyway, so.
27:54
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be an issue. Another thing they did.
28:00
Speaker 1: Date compression, so because dates can be compressed into like
28:04
Speaker 1: fourteen bit numbers, and the.
28:07
Speaker 2: Scheme, I don't know the technology.
28:10
Speaker 1: I'm not the most technical person in the world, so
28:13
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put this in a way that made
28:15
Speaker 1: sense to me. It basically means that this particular scheme
28:24
Speaker 1: could represent over sixteen thousand years. So by doing this
28:30
Speaker 1: date compression and doing it into the binary code into
28:33
Speaker 1: fourteen bits is a thing. I don't understand the stuff
28:39
Speaker 1: about it because math is not my strong point. I
28:40
Speaker 1: wish it was, but it's not about this. I've I
28:44
Speaker 1: already mentioned the software kits, which is like Windows doing repatches.
28:48
Speaker 1: And most of these were free, and then some of
28:51
Speaker 1: them were were not and they were funded. There was
28:54
Speaker 1: basically a fifty million dollar Millennium bug kit that was
28:59
Speaker 1: covered by the US. But now and then another thing
29:04
Speaker 1: they did was date repartitioning, so and these are older
29:09
Speaker 1: or these legacy databases, and the size like could not
29:13
Speaker 1: really be changed the six digit like year, month day codes.
29:18
Speaker 1: They were converted into three digit years, so like nineteen
29:21
Speaker 1: nine nine was year nine nine and two thousand and
29:23
Speaker 1: one was one o one. So the systems that use this,
29:27
Speaker 1: it's not really going to be an issue.
29:29
Speaker 2: Until the year.
29:31
Speaker 1: Twenty eight ninety nine, so we have some time to
29:34
Speaker 1: work on that.
29:34
Speaker 2: That's good.
29:37
Speaker 1: And then there was bridge programs and I could not
29:39
Speaker 1: find any informational bread programs. So yeah, for the most part,
29:44
Speaker 1: because programmers and coders and scientists and mathematicians all worked
29:53
Speaker 1: like dogs, they killed it. They worked consistently entirely, say
30:00
Speaker 1: to ensure that you know, these huge issues weren't going
30:03
Speaker 1: to happen, like, but stuff happened all over the world,
30:12
Speaker 1: but like a lot of it was minor, Like it
30:14
Speaker 1: wasn't a huge grandiose situation. So like say, for example,
30:21
Speaker 1: so like some of the stuff that happened, like in
30:23
Speaker 1: Singapore and Sweden, taxis had issues with taxi cabs and
30:32
Speaker 1: so like taxi means and Singapore they just stopped working.
30:35
Speaker 1: And in Sweden, all the taxi fairs there they were incorrect.
30:41
Speaker 2: They didn't like.
30:41
Speaker 1: It wasn't like it struck midnight and then they started happening.
30:44
Speaker 1: It was like just through January itself.
30:47
Speaker 2: Really, so.
30:50
Speaker 1: Things that happened. Let's talk about Japan. So we'll start
30:55
Speaker 1: with Japan. So I'm gonna apologize for any name that
30:59
Speaker 1: I pronounced in directly.
31:00
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry Japan. I'm so sorry.
31:04
Speaker 1: So on a gala, an alarm sounded at a.
31:09
Speaker 2: Nuclear power plant two minutes past.
31:11
Speaker 1: Midnight and Ishikawa, the radiation monitor equipment failed at midnight,
31:20
Speaker 1: so like again the nuclear issue, but there was the
31:24
Speaker 1: official said there was no like actual risk to the
31:27
Speaker 1: public because they got it fixed like pretty quickly. The
31:31
Speaker 1: Osaka media port, which is like a telecommunications carrier, so
31:35
Speaker 1: there was an error in data management and this happened
31:39
Speaker 1: at two minutes past midnight and then by.
31:41
Speaker 2: Quarter to three in the morning the issue was fixed.
31:45
Speaker 1: So I mean another communications network NTT Mobile, which is
31:52
Speaker 1: like Japan's like it was just it was at least
31:55
Speaker 1: to Japan's like big sort of mobile phone cellular operator
32:00
Speaker 1: models of their phones started deleting new messages instead of
32:03
Speaker 1: the old messages because like space was filling up on
32:05
Speaker 1: the phones. So yeah, in Sheffield, the UK, in England,
32:11
Speaker 1: glitches and problems and malfunctions that happened in Australia, the
32:17
Speaker 1: bus ticket validation machines like the cold they wouldn't work.
32:23
Speaker 1: So more stuff that happened in Japan. Five percent of
32:27
Speaker 1: the Post Office character events dispensers they just stopped working.
32:31
Speaker 1: Ah the Weather Bureau, their computers, a bunch of their
32:36
Speaker 1: data was corrupted.
32:40
Speaker 2: In the US, So.
32:42
Speaker 1: In the UK, in Sheffield in the UK, in England
32:48
Speaker 1: there was there's been quite a thing that there's a
32:51
Speaker 1: risk assessment for downtown room for pregnant women, for pregnant people,
33:00
Speaker 1: so in Sheffield and England in the UK, so these
33:03
Speaker 1: risk assessments were made for pregnant people relating to down syndrome,
33:10
Speaker 1: and these incorrect risk assessments were sent to about one
33:14
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four pregnant people and two abortions were
33:16
Speaker 1: carried out as a direct result of this because there
33:21
Speaker 1: was like a miscalculation of the mother's age or something.
33:24
Speaker 1: Four people who had been told they were in like
33:26
Speaker 1: the low risk group, they ended up giving birth to
33:30
Speaker 1: children who had Down syndrome. Elsewhere in the UK there
33:35
Speaker 1: were these like self self the self service ticket machines
33:42
Speaker 1: and effectively so they were printing the date wrong and
33:47
Speaker 1: so the the ticket gates and the ticket gets at
33:51
Speaker 1: some of the railway stations because the card goes in
33:54
Speaker 1: and pops up again, so it goes boot boop and
33:58
Speaker 1: like it just it wouldn't read the day eight, like
34:01
Speaker 1: it wouldn't connect.
34:02
Speaker 3: But anyway, so the bank HSBC had these card swape
34:09
Speaker 3: machines for you know, payments on debit and credit cards,
34:12
Speaker 3: so for for payments and transactions. The stores that had
34:17
Speaker 3: these HSBC card swipe machines couldn't use them.
34:21
Speaker 1: So like ten thousand just stopped working. They wouldn't process
34:24
Speaker 1: credit and debit card transactions. And that that actually I'm
34:29
Speaker 1: on the twenty eighth of December nineteen ninety nine, so
34:33
Speaker 1: it was only on first of January that the machine
34:36
Speaker 1: started working again. And so what they actually had to
34:38
Speaker 1: do I don't know if you've ever seen the paper,
34:42
Speaker 1: the paper, there's a paper credit card. They would call
34:47
Speaker 1: it a machine. So what it does is it basically
34:52
Speaker 1: takes a print of your card it's it's a it
35:00
Speaker 1: what is it onto the paper and you have this
35:01
Speaker 1: information and then you just put the transaction through a
35:03
Speaker 1: later date. So they would cut the stores, so the
35:07
Speaker 1: stores would either have to use that or they would
35:11
Speaker 1: have to use just cash payments or checks and things
35:16
Speaker 1: like that. In the US, the US Naval Observatory, which
35:23
Speaker 1: runs like the masterclock that keeps the country's official time,
35:27
Speaker 1: gave the date on its website as the first of
35:29
Speaker 1: January one hundred and ninety one, No. Nineteen one hundred,
35:35
Speaker 1: first of January nineteen one hundred. Imagine waking up to that.
35:41
Speaker 1: I'm in a Fjortua and Omaha, Nebraska. Records of the
35:48
Speaker 1: aircraft maintenance records of aircraft maintenance couldn't be accessed. It
35:54
Speaker 1: just wouldn't register at Reagan National Airport Chicken Lines because
35:59
Speaker 1: bagat Han problems were affected the Coast Guard. Their message
36:05
Speaker 1: processing system just wasn't working properly. We out in France,
36:09
Speaker 1: it had the same problem as the US Naval Observatory
36:13
Speaker 1: so miteo France, which is like the weather forecasting service.
36:17
Speaker 1: It made the web page show like the forecast for
36:22
Speaker 1: the day as like the first of the first, nineteen thousand,
36:25
Speaker 1: one hundred, and this happened like all across the world.
36:29
Speaker 1: Actually that little U nineteen thousand, one hundred, that's the
36:32
Speaker 1: date in Bulgaria, that's new. In Bulgaria, police documents were
36:41
Speaker 1: issued with like expiration dates of the twenty ninth of
36:44
Speaker 1: February two thousand and five and the twenty ninth of
36:47
Speaker 1: February twenty ten, which are which are not leap years,
36:53
Speaker 1: and the system had also defaulted to nineteen hundred. In Australia,
37:01
Speaker 1: the validation machines for bus tickets, they just weren't working
37:07
Speaker 1: and an indirect result of the Y two K problem,
37:13
Speaker 1: issues occurred, like there was errors because of overflows and whatnot,
37:18
Speaker 1: and this actually led to the destruction of the NASA
37:22
Speaker 1: Deep Impact spacecraft.
37:26
Speaker 2: And because some.
37:27
Speaker 1: Software used the date windowing issued like to interpret the
37:33
Speaker 1: years so instead of so zero zero night, so that
37:38
Speaker 1: basically interpreted the years like zero zero and nineteen as
37:42
Speaker 1: twenty twenty nineteen, and then twenty to ninety nine as
37:47
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty to nineteen ninety nine. So this has led
37:52
Speaker 1: to a bunch of issues. Oh my goodness, I totally
37:56
Speaker 1: forgot about cults.
37:57
Speaker 2: How did I forget cults?
38:01
Speaker 1: So we all know, so like the domes Day survivor,
38:04
Speaker 1: we survivalists, but there was also like so there was
38:08
Speaker 1: a bunch of like fringe groups who were how do
38:12
Speaker 1: I put this, like so we have like, you know,
38:14
Speaker 1: the Doomsday peppers, the self sufficiency enthusiasts, enthusiasts enthusiasts, communes,
38:23
Speaker 1: and fundamentalist religious organizations my personal favorite cults, so that
38:35
Speaker 1: I mean, and also the conspiracy theorists because they're always
38:37
Speaker 1: around now. So white okay, was how do I say,
38:42
Speaker 1: exploited by some fundamentalists and somehow charismatic Christian leaders throughout
38:52
Speaker 1: the Western world. I mean, let's face it, probably in
38:56
Speaker 1: the US and Canada and Australia, and they basically, you
39:05
Speaker 1: know that the perceived risks of y T o K
39:08
Speaker 1: combined with the you know, the end of the world scenario.
39:11
Speaker 2: And apocalyptic prophecies.
39:13
Speaker 1: And they use this to influence their followers. Like Reverend
39:19
Speaker 1: Jerry Folwell suggested that why to K would be the
39:21
Speaker 1: confirmation of Christian prophecy, God's instrument to shake this nation,
39:27
Speaker 1: to humble this nation. Along with like survivalists, the Reverend
39:33
Speaker 1: Folwell advised stalking up on foot and guns.
39:37
Speaker 2: Food hoarding a.
39:41
Speaker 1: So, because he was like, the rapture is coming a lot,
39:47
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's just one. A lot of extreme
39:50
Speaker 1: extreme evangelicals, especially they used Y two K, the year
39:56
Speaker 1: two thousand problem to promote this political agenda basically saying
40:00
Speaker 1: that the downfall of government was like a desired outcome
40:03
Speaker 1: and this was supposed to usherman christ reign.
40:08
Speaker 4: And like.
40:11
Speaker 1: Another person who did this who sort of profited on
40:14
Speaker 1: like fear and conspiracy, was a New Zealand based I'm
40:20
Speaker 1: going to call him Christian prophetic author. And he was
40:24
Speaker 1: a preacher called Barry Smith, and he dedicates like he
40:29
Speaker 1: reads a book called I think a book or something
40:35
Speaker 1: called I Spy with My Lie, I Spy with my
40:38
Speaker 1: Little Eye, and he like dedicates an entire chapter to
40:42
Speaker 1: Y two K. So a lot of these Christian fundamentalists,
40:48
Speaker 1: these extreme evangelicals and whatnot, like they thought that, you know,
40:53
Speaker 1: the millennium bug in the year two thousand problem was
40:56
Speaker 1: going to create this worldwide Christian revival. They built what
41:04
Speaker 1: they did this whole like the concept of rapture and
41:06
Speaker 1: the fear of this apocalypse. They use this to manipulate
41:10
Speaker 1: their followers for like mass repentance and like committing to
41:17
Speaker 1: their faith and their group and all this kind of stuff.
41:20
Speaker 1: And like they were like, oh, you need to give
41:22
Speaker 1: us your money so that you can like make it
41:24
Speaker 1: through to heaven and all this kind of stuff. So
41:26
Speaker 1: do they use this as a way of just like
41:29
Speaker 1: like to take money from people to profit, whether they
41:34
Speaker 1: were writing books or just asking them for money, Like
41:38
Speaker 1: you know, it's but anyway, I mean, and then like
41:44
Speaker 1: doomsday cults, there was like doomsday cults that sort of
41:47
Speaker 1: revolved around white Okay, if I find one that's interesting,
41:52
Speaker 1: I will discuss it, because cults generally are pretty interesting
41:56
Speaker 1: all in all.
41:58
Speaker 2: But yeah, and here's.
42:01
Speaker 1: The funny thing now, So like because like some of
42:04
Speaker 1: like this data patching that was used for like a
42:06
Speaker 1: date windowing and all this kind of stuff. Because those
42:11
Speaker 1: were used, there's a there's also a Y twenty twenty
42:17
Speaker 1: problem as opposed to Y two K because of the
42:20
Speaker 1: way they were.
42:21
Speaker 2: Patched was seen.
42:23
Speaker 1: So windowing was basically seen as the worst of the
42:25
Speaker 1: solutions because it just basically pushed it to the side,
42:29
Speaker 1: you know, like sure, I'll deal with it later. That
42:32
Speaker 1: that's what windowing was. So Corus choose nineteen twenty to
42:35
Speaker 1: twenty twenties the standard window because of the significance of
42:40
Speaker 1: the midpoint of nineteen seventy. And this is all so
42:44
Speaker 1: like a lot of programming languages and systems, they handle
42:48
Speaker 1: dates and times the seconds from nineteen seventy oh one
42:52
Speaker 1: oh one, and it's called.
42:55
Speaker 2: UNIX or unux time.
42:56
Speaker 1: I would call it unix, and it's widely used as
43:01
Speaker 1: an operating system, and it is used. It's the standard.
43:07
Speaker 1: So the theory was, like we were saying before that
43:11
Speaker 1: these Windows systems would be outmoaded by the ten twenty
43:13
Speaker 1: twenty came around, but many are still like hang on,
43:18
Speaker 1: they're still there and the issue kind of have been
43:20
Speaker 1: forgotten about. And fixing the issues in a legacy system
43:25
Speaker 1: is a nightmare for a lot of quoders, because in programmers,
43:31
Speaker 1: because the original programmers think aren't around anymore, and they
43:37
Speaker 1: assumed that these would be like people in the sixties
43:43
Speaker 1: didn't think their code would still be around like any
43:45
Speaker 1: year two thousand. They wouldn't think that. So so things
43:48
Speaker 1: have started happening, like for twenty twenty some of the
43:53
Speaker 1: bills from like utility companies, so like electric gas all
43:58
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Like there the bills are coming
44:02
Speaker 1: out with the date nineteen twenty on them, so like
44:05
Speaker 1: that's already. And parking meters in New York City again,
44:09
Speaker 1: they're not. They're they're declining. Like credit card, credit card,
44:13
Speaker 1: credit card transactions. A cash registers in Poland, they're not.
44:20
Speaker 1: They can't print receipts due to like the way the
44:22
Speaker 1: clockworks and the register.
44:26
Speaker 2: This is so funny. It was great.
44:29
Speaker 1: W w E two K twenty, a professional wrestling video game,
44:35
Speaker 1: also stopped working at midnight on the first of January
44:38
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, granted with like within twenty four hours.
44:42
Speaker 2: Like the games.
44:44
Speaker 1: Developers, they actually had been multable fixts.
44:46
Speaker 2: So good for them. I like it when people are
44:48
Speaker 2: doing stuff. Oh, this is hilarious. I love this.
44:55
Speaker 1: There's a piece of software called Splunk, which looks for
45:01
Speaker 1: errors in computing systems, was actually found to be vulnerable
45:07
Speaker 1: to the why twenty twenty bug? Okay, that being said,
45:12
Speaker 1: they did find it in November of twenty nineteen. They'd
45:16
Speaker 1: find it and like they and they fixed it within
45:20
Speaker 1: a week, but like, how how any of these fixes
45:24
Speaker 1: are gonna how these are gonna last and work? Wait?
45:25
Speaker 1: Do we don't know? We're not sure. But also in addition, furthermore,
45:34
Speaker 1: there's another storage system, so the Unix system. This is
45:39
Speaker 1: used by like Apple and stuff. So and it counts
45:43
Speaker 1: because it counts everything in seconds from nineteen seventy so
45:48
Speaker 1: in the year twenty thirty eight. So yes, we do
45:50
Speaker 1: have some time to fix it. And the year twenty
45:53
Speaker 1: thirty eight, like a similar state of storage problem is
45:55
Speaker 1: gonna It's gonna be there. I'm going to say this
46:01
Speaker 1: even though I don't understand entirely what it means. So
46:05
Speaker 1: if you're good at the math, congratulations.
46:07
Speaker 2: If not, I'm sorry.
46:10
Speaker 1: Okay, the data stored as a thirty two bit integer
46:15
Speaker 1: will run out of capacity at three fourteen am on
46:19
Speaker 1: the nineteenth of January twenty thirty eight. So yeah, there
46:26
Speaker 1: we go.
46:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, so here's the thing. They were working on it
46:30
Speaker 4: from a decade before. And I can't argue that the
46:39
Speaker 4: reason why two K wasn't a huge problem was because
46:41
Speaker 4: people worked really really hard to make sure it wasn't.
46:47
Speaker 4: So lesson lesson of the week, what have we learned
46:54
Speaker 4: a stitch in time saves nine? We quick fixes are.
47:04
Speaker 1: Are are okay, But if possible, let's try and do
47:08
Speaker 1: things properly so we don't fuck up shit in the
47:10
Speaker 1: future and don't join a fundamentalist group and don't give
47:17
Speaker 1: all your money to a church.
47:18
Speaker 2: That's that's where I'm at.
47:21
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's New Year. I didn't give any
47:23
Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions. I did not do any Why should my.
47:28
Speaker 2: New Year's resolution beate?
47:30
Speaker 1: Like?
47:31
Speaker 2: Hm?
47:32
Speaker 1: So, I mean, here's the thing about New Year's It's
47:34
Speaker 1: it's arbitrary in so many ways, it's irrelevant in many others,
47:41
Speaker 1: and it holds significance because I'm being serious for a second.
47:45
Speaker 1: It holds significance because we put significance in it.
47:51
Speaker 2: And so.
47:53
Speaker 1: That's why we have New Year's resolutions.
47:57
Speaker 2: That's why we have this concept of year. Knew you.
48:01
Speaker 1: It's a fresh start, it's a starting point. And you know,
48:07
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, I literally just slept through
48:10
Speaker 1: the bells. I wasn't involved, I wasn't excited.
48:16
Speaker 2: I wasn't anything.
48:18
Speaker 1: And over the last year my life has changed immensely
48:24
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. And I'm a firm believer,
48:32
Speaker 1: start as you mean to go on.
48:34
Speaker 2: And I decided to start my year as I mean
48:37
Speaker 2: to go on. So what I did is.
48:41
Speaker 1: I was relaxing, I was watching comedies, and then as
48:47
Speaker 1: the new year came around, I spent it talking to
48:51
Speaker 1: someone who was very important to me.
48:54
Speaker 2: And someone who matters greatly to me and my absolute
48:59
Speaker 2: best in the world.
49:02
Speaker 1: And I can't think of a better way to start
49:06
Speaker 1: my new year. And I'm getting emotional now, but anyway,
49:14
Speaker 1: and so here I am a new chapter of my life.
49:18
Speaker 1: I'm currently packing up my stuff so I can move
49:22
Speaker 1: back home to my mother's.
49:28
Speaker 2: It is what it is, Yeah, it is what it is.
49:31
Speaker 1: Also in addition, furthermore, you don't have to keep a
49:35
Speaker 1: New Year's resolution if you want to, fabulous. If you
49:39
Speaker 1: don't want to, that's also fine. Don't give yourself too
49:42
Speaker 1: many And sometimes resolutions are like I want to lose
49:45
Speaker 1: weight or I want to do this, and it's like, fine,
49:47
Speaker 1: you want to do that, absolutely fine, you know, fantastic,
49:50
Speaker 1: you do you, honey. But sometimes resolutions can be a positive,
49:57
Speaker 1: like I'm going to treat myself better, I'm going to
50:02
Speaker 1: practice self care, I'm going to allow myself moments of
50:09
Speaker 1: happiness because I'm an optimistic person, but I'm also incredibly
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Speaker 1: jaded by life, So my personality is constantly war with
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Speaker 1: itself to try and even that out, and I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to not let myself wallow like I'm trying not to
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Speaker 1: let myself wallow and fall into bad patterns because I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's probably inevitable and.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen, but.
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Speaker 1: I am doing my best and that's all I can do.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, if you want to email me, there is
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Speaker 1: who Did What Now Pod at gmail dot com. There's
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Speaker 1: Instagram who did What Now Pod, TikTok, who did what Now? Pod?
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Speaker 2: Who did what Now Pd?
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Speaker 1: Because there wasn't enough characters to write pod, so I'm
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Speaker 1: on all them. I'm also on TikTok who did what Now? Pod?
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Speaker 2: Or just who read what Now? I think?
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Speaker 1: Maybe, so I'm on Yeah, I'm on TikTok as well.
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Speaker 1: Or I do snippets of history and historical hot takes
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Speaker 1: sometimes when I'm in the mid for it. Well, chat
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Speaker 1: to you all another time, Good afternoon, good evening, and
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Speaker 1: good night, Adios my friends, Adios or revoir. Who is
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Speaker 1: that