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The Late Debate | 13 February · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately, Welcome the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Late Debate James
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  Speaker 2: Macpherson with Liz stra and Caleb Bond coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: If you've ever wondered whether we're sending our best into politics,
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  Speaker 2: we've got a video that proves conclusively we are not.
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  Speaker 2: We'll show you that a little later. Plus, when we
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  Speaker 2: look at the papers, a Chinese fighter jet comes dangerously
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  Speaker 2: close to an r DOAAF plane. The Albanzy government has
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  Speaker 2: launched an official protest, and new data reveals just how
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  Speaker 2: few Australians are watching the ABC. Surprise, surprise. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about all of that when we get to tomorrow's news.
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  Speaker 2: But first I thought there was like a climate emergency.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't we been told there's a climate crisis? Haven't we
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  Speaker 2: been warned that we only have a few short years
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  Speaker 2: to save the planet. Didn't the Secretary General of the
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  Speaker 2: United Nations tell us we're on a highway to climate hell.
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  Speaker 2: And of course you'll remember in twenty twenty three said this,
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  Speaker 2: the era of global warming has ended.
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  Speaker 3: The eater of global boiling as arrived.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a climate catastrophe. We've got to do something now,
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  Speaker 2: which makes me wonder why out of one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety five countries that signed the Paris Agreement, where they
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  Speaker 2: agreed to limit temperature rises to just one point five
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  Speaker 2: degrees above pre industrial levels to save the planet, do
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  Speaker 2: you know how many of those one hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 2: five countries submitted in time their emission reduction plan to
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  Speaker 2: say what they would do about those reductions by the
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  Speaker 2: year twenty thirty five. Those plans were due in on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety five countries have committed to this.
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  Speaker 2: Ten ten countries got their plans in. One hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty five out of one hundred ninety five countries that
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  Speaker 2: just a bit late haven't got around to it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: technical difficulties, some economic problem. It's coming. It's in the mail.
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  Speaker 2: A dog ate my homework. Ninety five percent of the
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  Speaker 2: countries that signed up to the Paris Agreement didn't bother
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  Speaker 2: getting in their latest report that they all promised they
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  Speaker 2: would on Monday. The thing that gets me about this
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  Speaker 2: is you and I are told we can't eat meat,
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  Speaker 2: We've got to eat bugs. We can't drive V eights anymore,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to drive these electric things, and on and
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  Speaker 2: on it goes to save the planet, and our politicians
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  Speaker 2: demanding all of this from us. They can't even get
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  Speaker 2: their reports on time, which begs the question how much
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  Speaker 2: do they even really believe this stuff? Of the ten
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  Speaker 2: countries that managed to submit their reports, the US got
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  Speaker 2: theirs in, but only because it was done while Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden was still the president. But those that didn't. China,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest emitter in the world, they didn't bother submitting
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  Speaker 2: their report. India the third biggest emitter in the world,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't bother but caleble Liz. Guess what other country
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  Speaker 2: of those one hundred and eighty five countries it didn't bother.
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  Speaker 2: Guess another country on that list of reculcitrants who haven't
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  Speaker 2: quite got their homework in yet straight?
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  Speaker 1: Would it be one.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen didn't get. Really, I thought.
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  Speaker 4: We would have been on top of this.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the Uban easy government isn't on top of
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  Speaker 5: much else. But you would have thought, since we're bleeding
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  Speaker 5: out of very orifice to pay our energy bills in
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  Speaker 5: this nation at the moment, you would have thought Chris
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  Speaker 5: Bowen would be crossing the t's and dotting the eyes
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  Speaker 5: when it came to handing in his report card to
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  Speaker 5: the UN to say, look, how marvelously we're doing with
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  Speaker 5: regards to our Paris agreements. Like, now that the US
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  Speaker 5: has cooled out of this thing, it is such a
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  Speaker 5: waste of time. How are you collectively going to ensure
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  Speaker 5: that the temperature doesn't rise by two degrees instead of
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  Speaker 5: one point five degrees?
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  Speaker 4: How are you going to do that when the second
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  Speaker 4: biggest emitter in.
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  Speaker 5: The world has been like, you know what, We're not
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  Speaker 5: participating in this BS anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And not only have they pulled out of the Paris.
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  Speaker 5: Agreement, but Trump is absolutely delivering on his drill baby,
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  Speaker 5: drill promise. Oh yeah, the war on coal fired power
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  Speaker 5: in America is over. Gas, It's over. Trump loves fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 5: And we'll get to more from his US Energy secretary
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  Speaker 5: Al Gore's worst nightmare in a bit. But when you
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  Speaker 5: have the biggest military mit on the face of the planet,
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  Speaker 5: the head honcho of the Western world say, we're not
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  Speaker 5: playing this game anymore.
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  Speaker 4: We don't give a toss.
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  Speaker 5: And not only are we withdrawing, we are putting pedal
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  Speaker 5: to the metal with regards to fossil fuel production.
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  Speaker 4: In this country.
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  Speaker 5: All we care about is cheap energy, No wonder, one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and eighty five countries are just like you know what,
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  Speaker 5: sodd Nothing we can do is going to make up
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  Speaker 5: for that anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the reason we're bleeding out of every orifice, as
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  Speaker 1: you say, is because Chris Bowen has rogered is so
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  Speaker 1: hard with his pursuit of renewable energy. He's been on
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  Speaker 1: top of something. It's just not getting this report in.
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  Speaker 1: They don't call him Casanova Bowen for nothing. I've got
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  Speaker 1: to go off on a slow because you mentioned V
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  Speaker 1: eight cars before, and I was sitting here having a
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  Speaker 1: little moment, and I'm sure Paul Murray, if he is watching,
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  Speaker 1: will be having exactly the same moment. Nobody makes V
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  Speaker 1: eight cars anymore. You can the only VA cars you
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  Speaker 1: can buy a second hand. No one makes them, not
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  Speaker 1: even Toyota, which used to put vates in their land
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  Speaker 1: cruisers for grunts, not for speed, but even they have
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  Speaker 1: yanked vates off the market, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is in the city today. And this guy went past
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  Speaker 2: in his V eight Commodore, a classic vehicle from boys.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, an electric vehicle comes up behind you, it
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  Speaker 2: would hit you before you even knew it was there.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's part of the point, isn't it, Because
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  Speaker 1: of course, you know, too many people on the face
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  Speaker 1: of the planets what's causing all this travel, So the
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  Speaker 1: evs will just depopulate a little bit. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: all part of the deal. But it shows what a
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  Speaker 1: joke this whole thing is. I mean, the climate chief
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  Speaker 1: at the un Simon Steele, said that this was the
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  Speaker 1: most important policy document of this century. Wow, and only
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  Speaker 1: ten of one hundred and ninety five actually bothered to
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  Speaker 1: get it in. That's how important they clearly think it is.
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  Speaker 1: Or more to the point, it proves that no one
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  Speaker 1: has obeyed the rules that they themselves set down. And
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  Speaker 1: this is the problem with the Paris Accord. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we go, oh, well, we couldn't possibly pull
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  Speaker 1: out of it, because you know, we've got to do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing by the world. But clearly the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the world is not doing the right thing by itself.
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  Speaker 1: So why would we be foolish enough to go along
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  Speaker 1: with this when clearly no one else is going along
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  Speaker 1: with it. It's not worth the paper it's written on.
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  Speaker 1: And of course when you're part of the Paris Agreement,
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  Speaker 1: you can't revise your targets down. You're only allowed to
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  Speaker 1: your targets up. But again, what does it matter. Because
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  Speaker 1: we've got the targets, we know we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: meet them exactly. Everyone in the energy sector has known
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  Speaker 1: that we're not going to meet our zero targets for
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  Speaker 1: twenty thirty So it's certainly not going to meet the
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  Speaker 1: targets for twenty thirty five, and clearly no other country
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  Speaker 1: thinks they can as well. While we're talking about matters
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  Speaker 1: of the environment, littering now that this is one that
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  Speaker 1: I really hate because I think of all the things
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  Speaker 1: you could do to actually help save the environment, not
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  Speaker 1: littering is one of them. And apart from that, it
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't look good. I mean, you walk around, you
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  Speaker 1: see crap strewn all over the footpath. It just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look good. Put your stuff in the bin. We should
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  Speaker 1: go Singapore style on people. I think it start caning
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  Speaker 1: their hands until they bleed if they're caught littering. But no,
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  Speaker 1: I think it needs to be done. I'm all on
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  Speaker 1: board with it. If it means a more beautiful Australia,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm all on board with it. Of course, a
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  Speaker 1: more beautiful Australia is what to keep Australia beautiful and
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  Speaker 1: clean Up Ustralia have been saying four years now and
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  Speaker 1: every year they do an audit to the litter that
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  Speaker 1: they have picked up over the year previous. Well, they've
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  Speaker 1: gone through all this litter and funnily enough, they found
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  Speaker 1: a marked increase in litter being vapes, right, these single
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  Speaker 1: use vapes which you can walk into a convenience store
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  Speaker 1: and bat which seems very odd because I thought the
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  Speaker 1: federal government banned them. I mean January the first last
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  Speaker 1: year there was an importation ban on these vapes and
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  Speaker 1: then from July the first there was a full on
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  Speaker 1: ban on them being sold all together. And yet they
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  Speaker 1: have found a one hundred and forty percent increase in
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  Speaker 1: these things being littered and not only does it look bad,
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  Speaker 1: clean Up Australia says these are literally the worst things
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  Speaker 1: for the environment possible. This is their chair Pip Kanan.
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  Speaker 1: She says, we call them the triple threat to the
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  Speaker 1: environment because they're plastic waste, they're e waste because they've
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  Speaker 1: got a battery in them, a lithium battery. And we
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  Speaker 1: know what's been going on with those blowing up left
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  Speaker 1: right and center, and mere handardous waste because of the
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  Speaker 1: toxins in the liquid. They don't belong in the environment.
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  Speaker 1: They also don't belong in the curb side bin. But
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  Speaker 1: isn't it funny to these things which were banned and
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  Speaker 1: we were told that would be the end of it,
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  Speaker 1: all fixed, no one would be vaping anymore. Strike me pink.
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  Speaker 1: The government banning it hasn't worked.
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  Speaker 4: What a fool. I'm even hiding it though.
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  Speaker 5: You can barely walk down the street without a grown
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  Speaker 5: man blowing a cloud of blueberry mango in your face
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  Speaker 5: and you're innocently walking along like that came out of
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  Speaker 5: your lungs. Foul by the way, real men's smoke. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: none of this vaping nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: Get a life. But it's just out in the open.
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  Speaker 5: I was behind someone in traffic the other day and
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  Speaker 5: for a second I thought their.
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  Speaker 4: Car was on the fire. It's just billows coming out
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  Speaker 4: of the side and I'm like, God, Lord, what's happening.
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  Speaker 5: No old mates just sitting in the front having I'm
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  Speaker 5: massive chure off one is vape if it's so banned now,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's no way the police actually believe that
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  Speaker 5: all of these are the prescription veves.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do ourselves a favor. These people are just taking
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  Speaker 4: the mick.
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  Speaker 2: That there is a problem here, and that is that
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  Speaker 2: the clean Up Australia data was from the financial year
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Four, which does take in when the band came.
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  Speaker 2: Now, didn't you take in on the first of July,
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  Speaker 2: But the.
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  Speaker 1: Importation ban came on the first of January, right, so
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  Speaker 1: effectively the supply should have been cut off from the
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  Speaker 1: start of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly it wasn't right, and then from the middle of
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  Speaker 2: last year then you had to go to a pharmacist
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  Speaker 2: with a prescription. On that point you have to go
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  Speaker 2: to that.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to go to that.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I asked my son about this today. I said, like,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to get a vape, where would you
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  Speaker 2: get it? And he laughed at me like I'm an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: He said, from any convenience.
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  Speaker 4: Extraly sandy Tobacca?
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  Speaker 2: That illegal? He said, no, you just go and ask
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  Speaker 2: and they've got them behind the counter. I said, do
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  Speaker 2: they ask about your age or anything like that? Because
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  Speaker 2: he looks reasonably young. Said no, he swears his friends
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  Speaker 2: have never been.
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  Speaker 5: Asked, oh, told me that you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Care a friend of a friend of a cousin.
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  Speaker 6: He knows the iron, right, is that the younger generation
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  Speaker 6: is supposed to be really concerned about the environment, right,
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  Speaker 6: and yet it seems they are the ones leaving vapes everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And of course government's are taxing the snot out of cigarettes,
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  Speaker 2: but that's just driven everyone to vapes, which are less
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  Speaker 2: healthy for you and worse for the environment.
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  Speaker 1: But they've been so stupid as to think that by
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  Speaker 1: banning them it will fix the issue, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: prohibition worked really well when it came to alcohol, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard to take a product that already exists
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  Speaker 1: in the market and then say, well, this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be gonsky. And we know that vaping is far
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  Speaker 1: less bad for you than smoking is. In the UK,
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  Speaker 1: the NHS actually gives vapes out for free to people
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  Speaker 1: who want to quit smoking. Is it is much better
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  Speaker 1: for you, And yet the government says it's pertly okay
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  Speaker 1: to go down to the supermarket and buy a packet
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  Speaker 1: of fags over the counter, you know, apart from the
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  Speaker 1: fact that the sort of hidden so you can't see
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  Speaker 1: the front of the packet, but everyone knows you can
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  Speaker 1: buy them legally at the supermarket, but it is literally
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  Speaker 1: illegal to buy the product that is much safer for you,
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  Speaker 1: that might stop you from smoking. I mean, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: all about health though, isn't it. Please?
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  Speaker 5: Of course it is to America now, where, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: the war on coal powered gas coal rather is over.
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  Speaker 4: In Trump's America.
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  Speaker 5: His secretary of Energy, his name is Chris Right, is
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  Speaker 5: Algare's worst nightmare. What we are seeing under the Trump
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  Speaker 5: administration is him delivering on his promise to drill, baby, drill.
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  Speaker 5: This administration only cares about affordable.
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  Speaker 4: Reliable energy.
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  Speaker 5: Here's Chris Right saying, Coal's going nowhere, baby.
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  Speaker 1: The call has.
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  Speaker 7: Been essential to the United States his energy system for
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  Speaker 7: over one hundred years. It's been the largest source of
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  Speaker 7: global electricity for nearly one hundred years, and it will
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  Speaker 7: be for.
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  Speaker 2: Decades to come.
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  Speaker 7: So we need to be realistic about that now with coal,
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  Speaker 7: are we going to see a renaissance in surging coal
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  Speaker 7: production in the United States? Not likely, But we're on
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  Speaker 7: a path to continually shrink the electricity we generate from coal.
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  Speaker 7: That's made electricity more expensive in our grid less stable.
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  Speaker 7: So I think the best we can hope for in
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  Speaker 7: the short term is to stop the closure of coal
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  Speaker 7: power plants.
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  Speaker 4: No one has won by that action.
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  Speaker 5: Mister wrid has announced that coal will remain the backbone
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  Speaker 5: of America's reindustrialization. It's going absolutely nowhere. He even said
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  Speaker 5: that some of the plants that have been shot down
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  Speaker 5: will be reopened. Up to a quarter of US coal
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  Speaker 5: fired power station are due to be retired by twenty
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  Speaker 5: forty well not anymore, of course. This is a massive
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  Speaker 5: backflip from all the green policies that the Biden Harris
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  Speaker 5: administration pushed four years, which really trottled the American economy
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  Speaker 5: and really limited America's companies.
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 5: What do you need if you want to be a manufacturer,
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  Speaker 5: You need power, cheap, reliable power, and lots of it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, says Chris Wright.
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  Speaker 5: Reliable energy is the goal, and that's what we're delivering on.
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  Speaker 7: The goal is just affordable, reliable, secure energy from wherever
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  Speaker 7: that comes from. Obviously there's going to be roles in
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  Speaker 7: the long run for solar energy. There's places where it
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  Speaker 7: makes tons of sense, where where the natural resources are
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  Speaker 7: there and the infrastructure is benefited by adding.
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  Speaker 2: More solar to the grid.
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  Speaker 4: But I will say one.
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  Speaker 7: Thing for sure, We're not going to go down the
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  Speaker 7: road of Germany. You know, they spend half a trillion dollars.
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  Speaker 7: They more than doubled their price of electricity. They actually
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  Speaker 7: shrunk the total amount of electricity the country produces by
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  Speaker 7: about twenty percent, and their industry is fleeing the country.
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  Speaker 7: That's the path the United States was starting to go down.
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  Speaker 4: But that's the wrong path. Thank god for this one eighty.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, these guys are promising to do the exact opposite
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  Speaker 5: of the Biden Harris administration, even going so far as
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  Speaker 5: to say all that climate fear mongering, climate change, global
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  Speaker 5: boiling nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: Do your research. None of it's true.
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  Speaker 7: When you hear crazy stuff today, check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Dig a little deeper.
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  Speaker 7: Hurricanes are not growing, that's in the IPCC report. Tornadoes
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: are actually on the decline. Floods, droughts, all of these
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  Speaker 7: things you hear ceaselessly, they just simply aren't so.
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  Speaker 1: It isn't even controversial that they're not so.
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  Speaker 7: But media politicians just continually abuse these facts.
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  Speaker 5: What you wouldn't do to hear an ossie politician, much
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  Speaker 5: less our energy secretary.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine if we had a Chris.
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  Speaker 5: Bowen figure literally spitting facts like this. That's what Trump's
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  Speaker 5: picked in Chris, right, this is the US Energy secretary.
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  Speaker 5: Can't wait to see what he does over the next
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  Speaker 5: four years. Meanwhile, we're still stuck with Chris Bone.
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  Speaker 1: We don't even have to change the Chris bit. It's
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  Speaker 1: just the Surley, just what Bowen for, right, And I
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  Speaker 1: think we're on a winner here phone him.
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  Speaker 2: I just keep having visions of remember Scott Morrison walking
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  Speaker 2: into Parliament on that glorious day with a piece of coal,
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  Speaker 2: saying it's coal. It's not going to hurt you. How
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  Speaker 2: far we've fallen from those days. But I mean America,
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  Speaker 2: we're on track to close over the next five years
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty coal fired power stations, and if
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  Speaker 2: they were going to commit to that course of course,
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  Speaker 2: it's very difficult doing that to then say we want
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  Speaker 2: to be the world's leader in AI, because AI consumes
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  Speaker 2: enormous amounts of power and they want to re establish
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  Speaker 2: a manufacturing base, which they've been outsourcing to China for
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  Speaker 2: all of these years. So you can't have both, right,
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  Speaker 2: You can't have world leading in AI and lots of
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  Speaker 2: manufacturing if you don't have cheap, reliable power. And so
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  Speaker 2: Trump's made the decision we want economic growth, we want productivity,
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  Speaker 2: we want prosperity, so we'll use coal. And of course
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  Speaker 2: China in twenty twenty two, we're building a brand new sorry,
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  Speaker 2: two coal fide power stations every week cost And so
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Trump just understands, if you want to compete, then you've
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: got to scrap ideology. As Chris Wright explained, the ideology
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: is bunk anyway, and get on with building a prosperous economy.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And coal got us to hear it'll get us to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: the future.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And you know where the coal comes from. That they're
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: burning overseas US buying, we're maning it. They're buying it,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: they're burning it. They're getting the cheap power, and we're
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: over here going, oh, look at us. We're saving the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: planet because we're not burning coal. It's the same planet.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: We all live on, the same planet. It doesn't matter
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: whether you're burn it in China or the US. It's
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: all the same environment that we live in, right And
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you mentioned about AI. Of course, the other thing that's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: going on in the United States at the moment is
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: companies like Microsoft are paying obscene amounts of money to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: start up nuclear power plums because they know that that
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: will be reliable based load power that they can use
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and have to run these big AI machines that they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: going to build because they need all that power. And
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: here we are saying, oh, we're going to have three
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: eyed fish and mutilated children if you talk about nuclear energy.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: This is how ridiculous it is. And of course our
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: own governments are doing the same stuff that Chris Wright
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: is talking about here, but they do it in a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: lamenting kind of way. I mean, you've had a Chris
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Min stand up and say, oh, well, you know, we'll
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: have to keep a rearing open longer than planned because
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we have reliable power
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: available for New South Wales. And then down in Victoria,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: jes Cinra Allen's had to do the same with loy
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yang out in the gipps Land, et cetera. So they're
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: all pain to keep culified power stations opened longer than
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: they were planned to be open. But they cry about
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it when they do it, whereas Trump and his mob
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: are saying, no, actually, we're just going to do what's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: good for the nation. What a strange idea.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: It's quite amazing in just a few weeks how much
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of a difference Trump has made to the debate being
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: had right around the Western world. All of a sudden
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: thoughts that we weren't allowed to think, conversations we weren't
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: supposed to have being had, and that includes around diversity,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: equity and inclusion. Another major corporation has walked away from DEI,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: this time Disney, which is a miracle because if anyone
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: was committed to diversity, equity and inclusion, it was Disney.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: But their CEO, Bob Iiger, has said that Disney's primary
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: mission needs to be get this calibern Liz entertainment. He's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: decided making movie is about entertaining people, not trying to
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: insert ideological propaganda into the minds of people. He said.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: They don't want to any longer be a gender driven
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: they want to be entertainment driven. As I said. It's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a massive departure for Disney because just a couple of
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: years ago, one of their presidents, Casey Burke, boasted that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: they had decided fifty percent of all of their movie
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: characters needed to be either LGBTQ community members or members
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: of an ethnic minority, and one of their executives boasted
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that they were constantly adding queerness quote unquote to Disney
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: movies without any pushback at all. And how did that
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: work out for them? Well, it was a box office disaster.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Deis kryptonite when it comes to attracting audiences. In twenty
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: twenty three, Disney's biggest four movies lost a combined one
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: billion dollars because it turns out people aren't entertained by DEI.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: It ruined their family reputation. I remember Pixar put out
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: a kid's cartoon, Elemental, which featured a non binary character,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: and can you believe parents weren't rushing to take their
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: little kids to hear that maybe they're not a boy
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: or a girl, maybe there's something else all together. And
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: of course, with Trump moving or rather moving to end
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: what he called a legal discrimination and to restore merit
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: based opportunity, Disney, like other corporations, are now a little
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: concerned that maybe their DEI policies might be found to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: be unlawful, and so they've stepped away. This is a
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: major change. And one of the interesting things to me
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: about Trump in just his first three or four weeks
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: is we've got politicians in this country saying we don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: want to get involved in the culture wars. Remember Scott Morrison,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: so he's a Christian man, but he said no, just
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the economy. I don't want to get involved in the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: culture wars. But Trump is taking the cultural wars head
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: on and making incredible changes and people are getting on board.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: We've been told for years diversity, equity, and inclusion, it's vital,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it's so important, and then the drop of a hat,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: these companies have just stepped right away from it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: May I just say we are so back, like the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: world is just writing itself, The world is healing, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it is so beautiful to watch that just one man,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and that all this started before he was even president,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: had them all coming to kiss the ring. Mark Zuckerberg, etc.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Has just managed to change the culture so much overnight.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And when I say change the culture, it's not that
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: we've really changed the culture. We've just gone back to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: where we were a decade ago before we really started
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: going off the rails, right, We've just corrected course back
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to where we always should have been. And of course
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: money talks, and that's what they have realized, is that
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: all of this pilava that they carried on with actually
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: isn't making them any money, and they never really believed it,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: which is what's been exposed by all of this is
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that there is no company. I don't think that genuinely
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: ever believed in the idea and the virtue of DEI.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But they all did it because they thought it impressed
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: all their other mates in the corporate world and that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: this would get them all the points that would save them.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: And Paris agreeing same thing.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: But essentially it was insurance so that when the socialists
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: eventually took over that they would be the last ones
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that faced the acts. Well, it was never going to work.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: They're not making any money out of it, so they're
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: running in the other direction. Thank god for that, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: thank god we've got Trump there, because imagine if you'd
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: had another four years of Harris and Waltz, for goodness sake,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: we would have gone even further down the line into
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: this stuff to I think an irreparable point basically, and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: this was such an important moment, and we've hit it
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and we've done it. And don't forget as well, that Disney,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: when it was going through all this stuff actually pulled
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: advertising from X after Elon musk word it of course
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: formerly Twitter. This was his advice at the time to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney. It would seen that
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: mister Aiga actually took his advice here.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: There's a public perception that that was part of a
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: apology tour, if you will. This had been said online,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: there was all of the criticism, there was advertisers leaving.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: We talked to Bob, I.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Don't advertise, you don't want them to advertise. No, what
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: do you mean.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: If somebody to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmailing
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: with money golf?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But go yourself?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And who got the last laugh?
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: Huh.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: I just love it when we see people in great
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: numbers take action, though, because while Trump is obviously the
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: figurehead of this, let's trash DEI moves, people have been
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: doing this kind of thing for a long time now.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: We saw bud Light.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Go down in a spectacular fashion. We saw Target caught
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: the heat from millions of a Marria who are like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: why are you selling like transgender clothes or like I'm
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: transitioning and I'm a boy who wants.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: To wear girls clothes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: You're literally marketing these kinds of leotides and other pieces
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: of clothing to children.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: We're just not going to shop with you anymore.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: We saw it when Netflix brought out this What even
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: was it?
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: A movie about kids who were cheerleaders who were totally
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: overly sexualized, And everyone threw their hands up in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: air started canceling their subscriptions on MASS.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I love it when we're reminded we.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Actually are incredibly powerful.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: When we have the numbers.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: All these people care about his money, and when enough
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: of us dig the knife.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: In, they changed their minds real fast.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Well, last night we were talking about a asylum seeker
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: in the UK who got to stay because his son
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: didn't like the chicken nuggets back where he was from.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Tonight we're talking about another asylum seeker. This is a
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: forty nine year old woman who gets to stay because
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: she joined a terror group on purpose, and the judge
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: knows it in order to create a case to say, hey, look,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: if I go back home, I'm going to be prosecuted
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: in Nigeria.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: The judge actually acknowledged.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Like, I get that you've taken me for a ride here,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: but let the woman do it anyway, quoting from the
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: judge up a upper tribunal Judge Jemma Lauren ruled that
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: the asylum seeker's activities on behalf.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Of the group.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: This is the terror group Indigenous people of Biafra. Meant
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: she had a well founded fear of persecution under human
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: rights laws due to her imputed political opinion.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Conservative part Conservative.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Party leader Kemmy Badanock so I asked the Prime Minister
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: to appeal this crazy court decision that allows people from
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Gaza to use the Ukrainian family scheme. He repeatedly refuse
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: to say whether the government had or would. This sets
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: a bad precedent legalism before national interests.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: He's a lawyer, not a leader, and we know he
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: was a pierce poor lawyer when he was that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: So these guys are fully aware of the insane loopholes.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: These people have come to their country. They're soaking up
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: all the UK taxpayer pounds, they don't give a rats
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: about anything else, and then they're exploiting the most obvious loopholes.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Remember we had Muslims suddenly converting to Christianity saying well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: you can't send me back to my Muslim country because
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: now are we prosecuted. Yeah, you had a real come
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: to Jesus moment, didn't you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: These guys are taking the mick.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: And as we were discussing last night with regards to
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: mister chicken nugget, it's only Western countries who are stupid
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: enough to give them the time of day.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: This Nigerian woman, she failed in her asylum seeker claim
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and then she appealed once twice, three times, four times,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: five times, six times, seven times, eight times. She appealed,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: lost every appeal and then came up with this genius idea.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: If I join a terrorist group in Nigeria but it's
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: not listed as a terror group in the UK, then
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: they can't send me back because I'll be prosecuted. As
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you said, Liz, the judges agreed this was a croc,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: but they also decided, however, we can't send her back.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: What sort of system allows somebody to appeal eight times times?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And by the way, what sort of a system allows
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: some people to remain in the country after they lose
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: their asylum seeker claim for ten years? Yes, well, the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: court process plays out. Here's another question, how did she
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: forward all those appeals? I mean she would have needed
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: legal representation, right, Well, I guess the UK taxpayer was
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: funding all those appeals over ten years when she was
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: probably receiving welfare. And finally, we're in a situation now
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: where judges are essentially running and deciding policy on who
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: will be here. Politicians aren't brave enough to step out
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and make the decisions, as you said, Kirs Starmer is
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: just playing mute on this, and so the judiciary of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: deciding policy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Do you mean to tell me it's not the Biafran
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: terrorists who paid for all those appeals. I can't believe it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is absurd on so many levels, because
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: if she can do it, then why can't anyone Why, Well,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the Nigeria right could just upsticks tomorrow, move to the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: UK and say they're all members of the indigenous peoples
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of Biafra.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: It's the fastest growing terror group in the world.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and then how could you deny them asylum status? Right?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: That seems to be the president that's been set here.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things that need to happen.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: One needs to be if you've appealed a decision and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you lose that set I mean, I don't know of
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: any other court where you just keep appealing and appealing
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and appealing and appealing and appealing, and once your appeal
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: has been lost, if it goes through an appeals court,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you can, perhaps I'm talking an Australian context here, you
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: can go to the High Court. That's probably your last option,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: right and then once you're done there, it's over. You
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: can't appeal eight times something in Australia, so don't understand
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: why you can do that in the UK. But if
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: we get into a weird pickle like this, surely the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: UK ought to be able to say, and there should
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: be laws to the effect that say, okay, you are
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a member of the terror group. Therefore we will say
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that we're not going to send you back to Nigeria
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: because you will probably be executed or whatever it is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: when you get back there, but you're going to go
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to jail while you're here. These are two options. You
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: can go back to Nigeria or you can sit in
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a jail.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Here and then just be living on the tax payer time.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Welle are bulging. That's where the rubber liseral criminal.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: This is but that's where rubber would hit the road.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: This is where the rubber would hit the road. Because
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you then have to make a decision about do I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: want to live in Nigeria with freedom or do I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: want to live in a UK prison? Now, if your
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: number one problem is that you can't get three square
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: meals to day, then maybe you'll take the prison, But
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I think most people would go Actually, I'd rather live
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: somewhere I can move around freely. It's a deterrance, is
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: what it needs to be to stop people from going there.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But the fact that that you could even get into
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: a position like this in the first place, and that
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a judge after eight goes would be like a.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: In your cup, you know, with the whole appeals process, right,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I couldn't help. But when I was reading this story,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: think about cricket, because you know, we're just coming out
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: of cricket season, and you know, when you believe it's out,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: your appeal right, But could you imagine you just appeal
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: over and over and over again until finally the umpire
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: agrees with that. That would be ridiculous in cricket. But
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: this is what we're doing in immigration policy.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: That's the good thing about the Decision Review system, the DRS. Right,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you've only got three goes through the entire which knows
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: your point, and if you fail, you lose an option
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to use it and the other thing. Of course, you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: said she's been there all this time. They do exactly
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the same thing here in Australia. I mean, look at
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the example of the Biluilla family right where they come
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to Australia and then we assess their asylum application while
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they're on shore. That process for whatever reason, because because
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: we don't have enough public servants in this country, takes
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: forever to do and then they go. But we've been
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: living here for teen years now, it's taking you this
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: long to tell us that we're not exactly exactly and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: now you're telling us we have to go back to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a country to which we no longer have any connection.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It's like we set it up for them so they
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: can do it. Just absolutely ridiculous. Now we know about
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the scourge of anti Semitism in this country. You've seen
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the video that came out yesterday of those two nurses.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: It is absolutely a problem. But I think one too
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: many times we've been looking for solutions that aren't really solution. Yes,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: anti Semitism is a problem, but do we not already
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: have laws and rules and regulations that could deal with
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: this people? Why do we keep saying we need to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: bolster the laws, when actually it seemed in many cases
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the laws haven't been applied at all, either police or
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the DPP have been too afraid to use them, or
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: in the case I'm about to talk about, employers just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: don't want to get rid of anti Semitic people because
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they actually agree with them. Now we come to the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: universities here in this country. We sat, of course, the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: encampments that happened over in the United States. We saw
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: similar protests and carry on at universities here in Australia.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: You've had academics and many people say things that are
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: outright anti Semitic, and yes they've still got their jobs.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So a Parliamentary Committee into Human Rights has come together
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and said, well, we should bolster the laws to allow
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the universities to sack these people. Here's the chair of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: that committee, Josh Burns.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And regardless of ever wins the election, I want to
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: make sure that these students behind me and all of
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: their colleagues and every single student the Tends University is safe.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: So this is not the end of the matter. We
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: are watching universities. It is up to them to act
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: and to take this more seriously.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely right. Any Jewish student should feel safe, Any
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: student should feel safe. I mean, how ridiculous that we
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: had the idea yesterday that universities are going to start
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: having safe spaces that are guarded for Jewish students. I mean,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: if ever there was an admission that there is a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: problem with antisemitism on campus, it is that. But surely
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: if a member of staff, just like here or anywhere
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: else or any other workplace, is found to be discriminating
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: against other people on campus or is outwardly racist, they
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: can be sacked for the act of discrimination or the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: act of bringing their employer into disrepute. I think too
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: often it's same. I think with the hate speech laws
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that we talked about last week, where we go, Okay,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: we've got a problem with racism here, but we've already
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: got laws to deal with that. No one actually wants
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: to do it, and we go, okay, we need to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: bolster the laws for the universities. But the universities then
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: have to actually want to sack these people. That's the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: problem is they haven't wanted to say. You can change
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the law all you want, but if the people who
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: apply the laws aren't willing to apply the laws, when
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you could have a law saying that it's illegal to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: spit in the street, you'll be sent to jail. But
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: if the coppers don't want to stop you from doing it,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: well it's not going to change anything. I feel like
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that's the position we've come to.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly the position we're in. It's easier
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to make new laws, and make new laws, and make.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: New laws and actually deal with the problem for item.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Then actually enforce existing laws. And they're scared of enforcing
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: existing laws because if they enforce them then just maybe
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: there'll be an uproar, and they don't want to deal
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: with that. I remember being at a pro Palestinian rally
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and there are a whole bunch of cops. This is
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: when they first started and were huge, And I said
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to one of the police officers, if someone starts yelling
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: kill the Jews or whatever, will you arrest them? And
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: he said, I'll speak to my superior And I said,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you immediately do something? He said, look, how
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: many people are here. If I do anything, it's going
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to create pandemonium. And that's what we had with vice
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: chancellors on university campuses. Mark Scott said he didn't want
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: to close down the pro Palestinian encampment which was harassing
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Jewish students. Jewish students stopped going to Sydney University because
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they didn't want to walk through that encampment where they're harassed.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And Mark Scott, the vice chancellor, said he didn't want
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: to do anything because he feared it could get violent.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So because of threats of violence, he allowed the intimidation
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to continue. He didn't want to enforce existing laws. It's
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: easier just to keep making new ones that are never enforced.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Ondred percent And let's be very clear about the fact
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: that for the purposes of the law, racism is racism.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: So there I don't believe should be any anti Semitic
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: specific laws in this country because at the end of
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: the day, racism is racism before the law. All racism
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: is equal if you are being singled out due.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: To the color of your skin or your religion.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: Like you say, Caleb, we already have these laws now,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: whether you believe or not they should exist. I don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: free speech absoluteness here, hate speech is free speech, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: vice versa. You either have both or you have neither.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Make up your minds. So for them to come out
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: and be like, oh, now we're changing this. Now we're
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: changing that. We've already changed the hate speech laws. These
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: guys are simply doing this as a virtue signaling exercise.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: And when they don't and they actually do make more laws,
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: I think it's utterly ridiculous.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and don't forget. On Sky News next Thursday, Sherry
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Marxon will be hosting an anti Semitism summit. John Howard
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: and your South Wales Premier Chris Mins will be amongst
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: those speaking. You won't want to miss that. We're going
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to go to a break. When we come back to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: look at what's making news tomorrow, including that incident between
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the Chinese fighter jet and the left plane that has
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: caused the Albanzi government to protest to Beijing. All of
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that and more interest a money, welcome back. Let's take
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a look at what's making news tomorrow. This story you've
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: got the Australian.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Yes they do, James mcphurst, well, thank you so much.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Unsafe Australia's blast for Beijing over flair drop on our
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: double af plane. The Albanese government has lodged an official
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: protest with Beijing after a Chinese fighter.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: Jet fired flares in front of an R double AF
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: surveillance aircraft over the South China Sea and a dangerous
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: incident that risked the lives of up to a dozen Australians.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: The Chinese J sixteen fighter shot the flares within thirty
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: meters of an Australian aircraft in an unsafe and unprofessional maneuver.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Now Defense Minister Richard.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Miles has said this could most definitely have gone very
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: badly had those flares actually made contact with our aircraft.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: And so they're conveying to China how disgruntled we all
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: are back home about this incident.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: But here's China's.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Spokesperson for their defense department giving their side of the story,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: which sounds very different.
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  Speaker 9: The Australian military airplane deliberately intruded into China's airspace over
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: Sisa Tenda without China's permission. Such a more violated China's
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: sovereignty and undermined China's national security. The Chinese side took legitimate, lawful,
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: professional and the restraint measures to expel the airplane.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Gas lading as its finest. These guys are amazing at this.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I love reading like the South China posts and all
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: their literally just CCP mouthpiece versions of every story of
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: the interactions between Australia and China.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: It's just incredible.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: If you were Chinese in China, you would think that
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: we were just the most overbearing, ungracious, constantly poking them
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: for no reason country ever.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And you'll also be on the deep seak finding out
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that Anthony Albanesi is the best Australian Prime minister ever.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you referred to the spokesperson as a
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: spokesperson and said they instead of him or she, etc.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Because they appear to be somewhat non binary because you
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: look at it, you'd think it's a bloke and then
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: he opens his mouth and it's a female voice, so
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you know they've got non binary people in China out.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Communists are really progressive, aren't they. But our plane are
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: out of Our double af plane was over international territory
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: at the time. China, of course is all it's our
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: territory because they think they own the entirety of the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: South China Sea. This has been in contingent for a
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: long obviously, but they don't own it. They do not
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: own the South China Sea. They've been trying to expand
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: into it for a long time, and just because you
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: say it belongs to you, it doesn't mean it belongs
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to you. You've intimidated us for long enough. And I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: understand it might be easier to do that with the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Albanezi government in power, because you know, he just comes
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: over and talks to g about how cute pandas are
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: or are not. But seriously, to think that you can
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: actually do this in international waters and get away with it,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you've got another thing coming, or more to the point,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: they should have another thing coming, but that won't happen.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Will say, oh, we're very upset about this, but that'll
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: be the end of it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: The only good thing about this story is that this
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: just happened on Tuesday, so what two days ago. So
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit encouraging to see the Albanezi government
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: actually acknowledging that it happened within forty eight hours and
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: making a statement about it, because they've been previous incidents
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: where we haven't found out about it four weeks. Even then,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: we learned that the Abanezi government has been mute on
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the issue. So at least the government has laudged a protest,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: which is more than they did within a short space
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of time in previous events. Why are you smirking at
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Melzi because.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: It's just so funny. We're just so small and helpless
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: as at a middle hour. So we're just like we
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: just launched.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: We put a little like slip into their feedback box,
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: like if you could not almost kill us when we're
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: just you know, over international waters, which we're supposed to
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: be playing chaeresis with China, that would be so nice,
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: and they're like stuff, you you were in our territory.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: We had to defend ourselves, and we're.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Just like, oh yeah, okay, well we tried do the
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: second splash on the front of the oars. No limits
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: forty four billion dollars NDIS therefore all hang on what happened.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: To Bill Shorten's promises.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: NDIS Minister Amanda Rishworth there's a new kid in town,
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: says there will be no tightening of which disabilities are
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: eligible for the forty four billion dollar scheme, despite the
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: government facing a mammoth effort to rein in costs with labor,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: instead to launch a new panel to review contestable services
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: and programs participants are using. So Bill Shorten flagged late
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: last year that eligibility changes.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Try saying that five.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Times fast were in the works, because how else are
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: you going to reduce the giant black hole in the
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: budget that is NDIS spending. Amanda Rishworth has now succeeded
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: the throne of NDIS Minister and she's saying, no, I'm
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: doing no such thing.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: What really struck me.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: About this article, though, was further down when it says,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: of six million Australians with a disability, Hello, in five
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: of us has a disability?
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Is it a typo? No?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: No, that's a clue as to why they can't cut
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: it right, Because when you've got one in five Australians
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: classifying as having a disability and you say we're going
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: to start cutting the d that tells destroyer right.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: So that tells you that the eligibility what classifies as
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: a disability is utterly ridiculous.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Boys aged five to eleven on the nd I s.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: But once you set up a system and you allow
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: everybody on it, how politically do you then take people
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: off of it without suffering electoral pain. So their solution
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: is they're going to love this that they're going to launch.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: They're going to launch a panel and because.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to launch a rocket.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Love that, right, So we're going to appoint a panel
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and then they'll just say, well, the panel have advised,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, the panel have said they absolve themselves this responsibility.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: A fifth of Australians being disabled to a stat I
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: assume it must include old people like you've got arthritis.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Even then come on one in fine.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, but that's what I mean. I think
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: that must be how they classify it, because you wouldn't
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: say I will tell you what needs to be done
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: with the NDAs. You could fix it. Well, you could
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: fix a lot of it overnight. Is just look at
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the fact that as soon as the NDAs came into being,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: autism diagnoses which is why one in ten boys are on,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: it just went like that. As soon as the indias
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: came on, diagnoses went like that. And parents stand over
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: clinicians and tell them, if you don't give my kid
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a diagnosis, there will be trouble. That is what is
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: going on. You ask people who are going to suspect.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: What courage parents to get the diagnosis because then.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: They get money. I know. It's an absolute joke. The
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph tomorrow, says our dear Auntie. The ABC costs
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: each Australian household more than the price of a Netflix subscription,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: but four in ten Australians never watch, listen or read
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: anything the broadcaster does. This is new. Numbers have shown
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that they've lost a million viewers or listeners in a
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: year with theirs plummeting, and of course they get more
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: money than ever. It's really worth our time, isn't it. Seriously?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: One hundred and five dollars a year we pay for
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the ABC each compared to ninety six dollars for Netflix subscriptions.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: So remember that it used to be what was it
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: seven cents a day or something they used to tell us.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Obviously there's been a bit of inflation going on since
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: just a tad.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Well, the ABC will be a lot better just as
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: soon as they get more money they cost that every court. Yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: If you've ever wondered if we're sending our best into politics,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: well we've got a video that proves conclusively we are not.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: That video is coming up. Okay, are we sending our
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: best people into politics? I'm not so sure. Caleb watching
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: American politics.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Now we should be sending them to the moon. I think. Now, look,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: bear with me, you never.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Sent anyone to them.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't move on anyway. This sounds incredibly dry, incredibly
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: incredibly dry, but bear with me because it builds up
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: to the greatest punchline of all time. There is a
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Democratic woman House member in the United States, Jan Schikowski. Right.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: She is addressing a subcommittee of the Commerce, Manufacturing and
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Trade Committee. This is called the AI in Manufacturing Securing
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: American Leadership in Manufacturing and the Next Generation of Technologies
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: sub Committee. Now watch this clip. Please bear with me,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: because she builds up too. I am telling you the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: best punchline.
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: Listen, I met with a manufacturing company, but they also
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: are engaged in getting young people more engaged in manufacturing.
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: So I asked them, so, how many of those students
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: that are signing up and want to do this, how
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: many are women? And they said, well, I know there's
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: at least thirteen percent or something, a low number. And
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: you had mentioned trying to engage more women in manufacturing.
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: I'm just wondering if just the name manufacturing sounds like
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: a guy.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I'm done. I am done all of that to build
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: up to is the problem that manufacturing has men in
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: We just have to.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: We have to change the word, and then women will
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: want to do it.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: That's how stupid they are. We just need to change the.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: Term and then they will join manufacturing en mass by
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: a different name. Before we leave you tonight, get a load.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Of this kid.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: It is Elon Musk four year old son known as
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Little X. He's attending a press conference in the Oval
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Office next to Donald Trump, and he had.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: A few words to say to the President.
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: Imagine they're going down the groceryil and the prices from
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: one year to the next are the same.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: And there, and they're there the mortgage all their.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Dead payments dropped. How great is that for the iriage American?
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Not only did he just tell the president to shut up,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: then he fetches a booger and wipes it on the
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: resolute desk.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: There, kid's got aura.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, sorry, unbelievable.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: That's so we've got time for sticking around. Coming up
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: is to readA Penney show. Have a great weekend,