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Remember Remdesivir? Craig Andrew Survival & Why We ? Big Pharma · Wellness Uncensored

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Speaker 2: Hey folks, welcome back. We are here live with another
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Speaker 2: episode of Wellness and Censored. My name's Patty G. I'm
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Speaker 2: here to take you through another journey of uncensored truth
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Speaker 2: and just to kind of share a background if you're
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Speaker 2: new tuning in, I think it's important to know we
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Speaker 2: are now in our third season and it's been such
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Speaker 2: a season for this, how about it three years, but
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Speaker 2: I've got five years in going of a story that
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Speaker 2: we're still uncovering things from the pandemic, and today would
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Speaker 2: not be without remiss to share that there's still people
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Speaker 2: out there that haven't heard other stories and what I
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Speaker 2: think is fascinating and we're going to be bringing to
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Speaker 2: you in another show. I don't want to take away
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Speaker 2: from our guest today, but you know, I'm really happy
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Speaker 2: how some of the tables are turning in the medical
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Speaker 2: health care care model with RFK and the announcement of
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Speaker 2: the TAIL and all issue. I want to just put
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Speaker 2: a little bug in your ear. Consider this, for those
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Speaker 2: of us that were withheld during the pandemic, and we
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Speaker 2: couldn't really share our stories, We couldn't get help to
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Speaker 2: the people that we knew and loved. We asked for
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Speaker 2: life saving potential medications, the right to try. We were
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Speaker 2: denied ivermectin at pennies on the dollar, internationally known Nobel
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Speaker 2: Peace Prize, nominated for its healing properties, and it was
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Speaker 2: stripped from us under our eyes. Well, today let's turn
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Speaker 2: the tables. We've now removed thailanol, one of the most
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Speaker 2: common drug across the world. It's known for therapeutic benefits
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Speaker 2: to help us with pain, and now that's been pulled
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Speaker 2: out from under the rug. Why I think to strike back.
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Speaker 2: That's my theory, just my theory, because why if we
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Speaker 2: went after vaccines alone, you know, there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: controversy plus and minuses. But when you hit the pharmaceuticals
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Speaker 2: where it counts, and you go after one of the
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Speaker 2: number one best selling medications of cineminifin worldwide, like ivermectin,
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Speaker 2: I think we've thrown down the gauntlet. I think it
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Speaker 2: was creative and again it's just my theory, but that's
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Speaker 2: kind of where I stand. Just so you folks know
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Speaker 2: my story is out there. It's called They Call Me Harriet,
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Speaker 2: a book that I've published. You can get it up
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Speaker 2: on the QRS code. It tells not just from how
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Speaker 2: the pandemic started and the questions I had growing up
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Speaker 2: as an our nurse, but as a senior executive. I
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Speaker 2: was basically duct taped and told that I couldn't share
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Speaker 2: or do more. They poop pooed all of the stuff
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Speaker 2: that I tried to share about ibermectin from leading physicians
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Speaker 2: across the country, doctor Pierre Corey, doctor Peter McCullough. And then, unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: after I tried to care for my husband who was
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Speaker 2: sick with COVID, I became so sick that I was
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Speaker 2: in the ICU. I was given that nasty drug we're
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Speaker 2: going to talk about today, rem death of your and
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Speaker 2: so yeah, it's all there in the book, and it's
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Speaker 2: all there all the things that they told you and
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Speaker 2: lied to you and misled you. So feel free pick
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Speaker 2: it up either on my QORS code or you can
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Speaker 2: pick it up at Amazon dot com. But without further ado,
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Speaker 2: I want to share I'm just so grateful to have
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Speaker 2: met this man across the airwaves of LinkedIn, because I'm
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Speaker 2: out there seeking and searching for people that really want
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Speaker 2: to know the truth. And when I read Craig's story,
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Speaker 2: it really inspired me because he again is a fellow
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Speaker 2: survivor who beat the odds. Craig Andrews, He's going to
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Speaker 2: be joining us in just a second. He's a US Marine.
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Speaker 2: He became an electrical engineer. He was involved in mobile
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Speaker 2: phone design, and he turned into marketing. He's got a
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Speaker 2: multi bestseller book, can't wait to hear about that. And
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Speaker 2: he has driven nearly over half a billion dollars in
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Speaker 2: revenue during his career. So he well accomplished, well spoken,
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Speaker 2: and has an outstanding track record. In two thousand and nine,
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Speaker 2: Craig had launched his own company, and that company will
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Speaker 2: probably hear a little bit more from Craig. It's allies
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Speaker 2: for me. But in twenty twenty one, sadly, Craig began
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Speaker 2: a three month journey in the hospital. He was in
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Speaker 2: a coma for six weeks. He nearly died during that time.
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Speaker 2: His team ran his company without him. Now Craig's going
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Speaker 2: to share some lessons from the ledge of death and
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Speaker 2: how they applied to marketing and into his life, and
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Speaker 2: I think it can be really inspirational. So Craig, welcome aboard.
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Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear your story. Just reading that when
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Speaker 2: you shared that with me in your story on LinkedIn,
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Speaker 2: I have to tell you, it took me back because
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Speaker 2: it sounds like you fought like I did, and it
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Speaker 2: sounds like your journey was actually even worse. And once
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Speaker 2: you're event a leader, the chances of survival are so nil.
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Speaker 2: I'm just glad that you, as a marine, are here
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Speaker 2: to tell us the fight that you had and where
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Speaker 2: you are today. So welcome, and I'm just going to
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Speaker 2: hand the mic over to you. Tell us a little
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Speaker 2: bit about you and what happened.
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Speaker 3: Well, Patty, it's such a delight to be here, and
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Speaker 3: you know, let me just kind of give a little
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Speaker 3: bit at the end of the story before I talk
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Speaker 3: about the beginning. Not only did I survive, but I
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Speaker 3: was the first one that left that ic you alive
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Speaker 3: and the and the when I talked I know some
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Speaker 3: people in that system, and my understanding is I was
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Speaker 3: one of the very very rare survivors and it's when
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Speaker 3: I look back on it. You know, let me jump
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Speaker 3: ahead a little bit more. Six weeks out of the hospital,
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Speaker 3: I'm meeting with my primary care physician, or my former
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Speaker 3: primary care physician, and he started badgering me about the vaccines.
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Speaker 3: And I wasn't looking like for a fight. And I mean,
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Speaker 3: I was a bag of bones at the time. I
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Speaker 3: was still in a wheelchair, couldn't really walk more than
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Speaker 3: a few feet at the time, and so I went
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Speaker 3: up for a fight anyway. But he was just coming
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Speaker 3: at me and I and I looked at him. I said,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not going to say his name one air,
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Speaker 3: but I said, you know, doctor, I'll just call him
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Speaker 3: doctor G. Say doctor G. If I could go back
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Speaker 3: in time, knowing what I know right now, if I
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Speaker 3: could go back in time and do things differently, I
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Speaker 3: would have certainly taken advantage of therapeutics. And he was
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Speaker 3: all outraged and he was like, what therapeutics. I said, well,
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Speaker 3: let's start with mont clonal antibodies, which were after he
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Speaker 3: approved they were and he was like, yeah, we had
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Speaker 3: those in August August twenty twenty one when I went
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Speaker 3: to the hospital, and I said yeah, and I visited
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Speaker 3: one of your offices. He was booked that day, so
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Speaker 3: I had to go to another one of his offices
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Speaker 3: and I said, they didn't say a word about him.
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Speaker 3: And I said, and normally that would use ivermactin and
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Speaker 3: he he said, well, that's that stuff doesn't work, and
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Speaker 3: you know, blah blah blah. I've looked at the studies
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Speaker 3: of mobile and I said, well, you know, I've looked
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Speaker 3: into it. And from I understand, the way covid spread
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Speaker 3: was something called proteas would dock on the protein and
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Speaker 3: would split the protein, and that's how it would multiply.
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Speaker 3: But apparently ivermectin would coak both the proteas and the
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Speaker 3: protein to prevent the docking, so it would stop the spreading. Now,
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Speaker 3: he had never gotten an answer like that.
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Speaker 2: I get. I love that.
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Speaker 3: And he looked at me and he said, well, do
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Speaker 3: you know the chemical compound for ivermectin. It's like no,
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Speaker 3: He's like, well I do, I'm a chemist. Became clear
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Speaker 3: this was about his ego. This was not about me.
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Speaker 3: This was about his ego, and that's why he's now
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Speaker 3: my former primary care physician.
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Speaker 2: Smart man, you are a smart man, but.
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Speaker 3: That's kind of the problem. I mean, if we go
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Speaker 3: all the way back, if we wind back to twenty twenty,
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Speaker 3: the one thing that became very apparent, very quickly was
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Speaker 3: they're lying. And you know, I remember thinking, you guys,
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Speaker 3: I spent six years in the Marine Corps. You guys
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Speaker 3: train me to recognize propaganda. You don't think i'd recognize
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Speaker 3: it when you use it on may And it was
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Speaker 3: abundantly clear. And the things that made it clear were
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Speaker 3: they ridiculed you if you ask questions, and they would
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Speaker 3: cleave to this kind of high concept of science. Well,
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Speaker 3: you have to trust the science and and the the problem.
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Speaker 3: And even you know, Tony Faalci one day said well
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Speaker 3: I am the science and remember that. Yeah. But you
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Speaker 3: know it's interesting. I had people who people I knew
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Speaker 3: personally that were critiquing me. They're like, well, you're not
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Speaker 3: a scientist. I'm like, well, yeah, actually I am. And
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Speaker 3: my my first publication was about measuring the effects of
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Speaker 3: the schemia in the heart. And I said, but the
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Speaker 3: one thing I know about science because they made they
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Speaker 3: taught us this. I had to take a class to
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Speaker 3: graduate that was called the Philosophy of Science. What talked
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Speaker 3: about was the way science advances is by rigorous challenging.
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Speaker 3: Science must be challenged. It must It's not optional. And
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Speaker 3: so when I have people saying, well, you know, you
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Speaker 3: have to trust the science, I'm like, well, I actually
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Speaker 3: have a couple of science degrees and I have a
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Speaker 3: publication in cardiac research, and the one thing I know
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Speaker 3: about science is it has to be challenged. If you
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Speaker 3: can't challenge science, then whatever you're dealing with it's not science.
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Speaker 2: That's right. Isn't that the whole essence of research to
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Speaker 2: question science, to question the peko, to challenge and see
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Speaker 2: if it's absolute or not, or where it falls in between,
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Speaker 2: and is there significant statistical significance.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, and in that class they taught
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Speaker 3: us about this case is a case of two hospitals
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Speaker 3: in Britain. You know, I forget when maybe the eighteen
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Speaker 3: hundreds and one hospital. They both were maternity hospitals, and
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Speaker 3: one hospital had a super high death rate amongst the moms,
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Speaker 3: the birthing moms, and the other hospital didn't and they
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Speaker 3: could never figure it out. Well, one guy looked at
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Speaker 3: and he realized, oh, wait a minute, one of these
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Speaker 3: hospitals is a teaching hospital where they're working on cadavers,
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Speaker 3: then going down and delivering babies without washing their hands
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Speaker 3: because we didn't know what bacteria was at the time,
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Speaker 3: and so the doctors were killing these moms because they
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Speaker 3: didn't know what bacteria was. Well, the guy who figured
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Speaker 3: that out started talking about and they called them a
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Speaker 3: complete nut job. They ruined his career. And now we've
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Speaker 3: kind of swung the other way. I look at everybody
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Speaker 3: running around with their hand sanitizer, thinking, you guys are
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Speaker 3: destroying your immune system. We need a few We need
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Speaker 3: a little bit bacteria in our lives, not as much
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Speaker 3: as they had in those hospitals. But that's what happens,
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Speaker 3: and and sadly we've seen that happen again. There are
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Speaker 3: a few truth tellers that could see what was going
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Speaker 3: on that we're saying that, And unfortunately, some doctors had
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Speaker 3: their careers ruined. People lost jobs, people were denied travel
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Speaker 3: and all sorts of things. And because science was treated
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Speaker 3: more as a religion than a what science truly is.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's the scary part about it. And
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Speaker 2: you know what I love is, you know, while you've
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Speaker 2: got you know, information degree background in the sciences, as
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Speaker 2: far as you know, I guess parts of cardiology as well.
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Speaker 2: You're out there in the community. You know, I think
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Speaker 2: people would say, perhaps my bias is because I'm in
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Speaker 2: the medical field, But so many people like yourself were
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Speaker 2: out there and they kept getting it was truly propaganda,
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Speaker 2: and that propaganda, you know, it just it continued to unfold.
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Speaker 2: And yet what do they say, You continue to do
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Speaker 2: the same thing and get the same results, Like it's insanity.
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Speaker 2: And we kept putting the same medication, the same protocol
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Speaker 2: and watching people die. And a lot of what I
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Speaker 2: investigated and was trying to get the word out to
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Speaker 2: people is from the insides. It was driven by infectious
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Speaker 2: disease doctors and the pharmaceuticals, the farm des with infectious disease.
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Speaker 2: They were driving the whole organizational structure to shut down
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Speaker 2: any other thought of the right to try. And the
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Speaker 2: physicians that were actually either trying to utilize ivermectin, they
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Speaker 2: were utilize and b one blue boxamine, several of budesinied
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Speaker 2: many other things that really helped to pull in that
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Speaker 2: decrease of inflammation. And like yourself, patients were going home
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Speaker 2: a month before I got sick with COVID. We were
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Speaker 2: successfully using hydroxychloroquine. But because all the hype that the
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Speaker 2: word was out and then all the stuff about bleach
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Speaker 2: and everything else.
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Speaker 3: We didn't have anybody die.
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Speaker 2: Everybody went home. That's when I was in Idaho. And
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Speaker 2: then fast forward, you know, it just grew and grew
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Speaker 2: and grew and grew, and I think that's where I'm
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Speaker 2: hoping now. I see a lot of people on social
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Speaker 2: media are throwing back because now there's this big thing
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Speaker 2: about the COVID shot, which I can't even call a vaccine,
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Speaker 2: but the COVID shot. They're going, oh, folks, you may
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Speaker 2: have trouble getting you may have trouble getting it. And
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Speaker 2: many people now are fighting back, going you can take
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Speaker 2: that and you know where you can put it. And
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Speaker 2: it's just I'm glad that people are finally taking hold.
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Speaker 2: But now we have the aftermath. We have people like
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Speaker 2: you and I that survived. I've got a whole group
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Speaker 2: of folks, and I hope some of them are actually
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Speaker 2: tuning in today because they love hearing fellow survivors. And
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Speaker 2: many of those folks they watched, not just many of
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Speaker 2: them were medical professionals and felt helpless, but people who
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Speaker 2: didn't have any medical background. They have this guilt ridden
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Speaker 2: belief that I should have done more, or I should
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Speaker 2: have taken my loved one out of the hospital, or
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Speaker 2: I should have I should have, I should have, And
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Speaker 2: we're trying to work with them to heal them because
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Speaker 2: no one knew, no one could fight against this, and
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Speaker 2: so we've got to lift the guilt, and we've got
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Speaker 2: to inspire and empower people to fight through the propaganda,
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Speaker 2: seek the truth, seek results. And so that's why I'm
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Speaker 2: just so excited. I want to hear more about how
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Speaker 2: how you survived despite all those odds. I just it's
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Speaker 2: it's incredible.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me let me address the guilt real quick.
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Speaker 3: You know, I was in a coma for six weeks
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Speaker 3: when they put me on the ventilator, and my wife
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Speaker 3: and I had talked about We knew the ventilator was
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Speaker 3: a death sentence, and so the plan was I was
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Speaker 3: going to do whatever it took to stay off the ventilator.
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Speaker 3: And the what happened was they just shot me full
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Speaker 3: of morphine, so I quit fighting. And then they called
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Speaker 3: her in the middle of the night and they bullied her,
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Speaker 3: they woke her up. She's you know, it's twelve thirty
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Speaker 3: in the morning. She's dead asleep, and they start bullying her,
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Speaker 3: and she hears me in the background screaming, no ventilator,
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Speaker 3: no ventilator, and she tells the doctor. She says, well,
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Speaker 3: he done one and beyond the vent later and the
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Speaker 3: doctor laughed at her and said, well, you don't put
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Speaker 3: them on. He'll be dead in twenty four hours. And
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Speaker 3: the reality was they just had me shot full of morphine,
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Speaker 3: so it reduces your respiration. Yeah, I did have promised breathing,
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Speaker 3: but just turn me on my belly because your lungs
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Speaker 3: are in the back of your chest cavity. And every
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Speaker 3: time I got on my belly, my oxygen shot darn
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Speaker 3: near a hundred and but thees they bullied her into
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Speaker 3: the decision put her in just a horrible thing. And
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Speaker 3: when I woke up from the coma six weeks later
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Speaker 3: and she started telling me when it happened, I don't
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Speaker 3: know if I could even talk at that point, because
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Speaker 3: when I woke up, I still had a track. Oh,
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Speaker 3: I just remember feeling I found sadness decision that she
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Speaker 3: had to make, and I'm.
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Speaker 2: Owd of you here to share this, I really am.
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Speaker 3: So I would say to anybody that's wrestling with that
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Speaker 3: grief and s thing. I told my wife, Yeah, you
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Speaker 3: were put in impossible situation. Don't carry that guilt.
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Speaker 2: That's incredible, the survivor's guilt, and in your case, you survived.
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Speaker 2: Thank God, that is something she has to be proud
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Speaker 2: of that she did the very best she could for you.
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Speaker 2: When you have people telling you things, and these are
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Speaker 2: medical professionals, how can you not? I mean, I take
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Speaker 2: to something far simpler, far less you know, traumatic, but
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Speaker 2: you know, imagine if you will. I have a vehicle.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the heck's wrong with my vehicle.
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Speaker 2: I go to the experts, they tell me it's going
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Speaker 2: to be X y Z. Why do I bring my
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Speaker 2: husband or say? This is what they're telling me. Because
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Speaker 2: the experts will tell you, hopefully what they believe to
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Speaker 2: be true, and hopefully in medicine there's some kind of
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Speaker 2: moral compass. But a lot of times they're going to
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Speaker 2: do what they want to do because they just want
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Speaker 2: to do it. And that's what happened and is still happening.
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Speaker 2: They put these things like your primary care doc, he
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Speaker 2: was poo poo and everything you said. Imagine a less
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Speaker 2: knowledgeable person or an older person. How many times I've
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Speaker 2: heard what the doctor said and these people lost loved ones.
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Speaker 2: You know, our group Betrial Project USA dot org. That's
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Speaker 2: what we're fighting against to help people heal from yilt
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Speaker 2: and trauma because we know the rest of the story.
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Speaker 2: And I love hearing that. You know how you fought
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Speaker 2: through that, and so so how how did it go
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Speaker 2: from you know what you went through? You were six
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Speaker 2: weeks in a coma.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let me let me back up a
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Speaker 3: little bit to a little bit the give a little
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Speaker 3: bit more of the context. So my wife and I
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Speaker 3: both we both woke up very very sick on July
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Speaker 3: thirty first, twenty twenty one. Okay, and ironically we know
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Speaker 3: who guys sick and that happens. I'm not upset with them.
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Speaker 3: I'm upset with their smugness because they were one of
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Speaker 3: the smugly vaccinated, you know. And and that's but you
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Speaker 3: remember when the lies they said, well, hey, if you
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Speaker 3: get vaccinated, you can't transmit the disease.
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Speaker 2: Another another false narrative.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want to give the details. I want
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Speaker 3: to give too many details because we still care about
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Speaker 3: this person. But when you break down the fact that
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Speaker 3: we both woke up sick meant we were exposed at
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Speaker 3: the at the same time. It went like I got
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Speaker 3: sick and then I got her sick because there was
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Speaker 3: a delay. And when you look at the facts, are
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Speaker 3: they point very very squarely in one direction.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably shedding.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, and and so by August tenth, my wife
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Speaker 3: was starting to get better. You know, I had started
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Speaker 3: getting better when like a Friday, August tenth was a Monday,
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Speaker 3: I'd start getting better Friday. But then I took another
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Speaker 3: turn south. And on Sunday, August ninth, my wife was
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Speaker 3: having trouble breathing, and she jumped in the shower, opened
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Speaker 3: up her lungs and she said, hey, can you go
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Speaker 3: buy a pall sox? And so I went and got
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Speaker 3: a pall socks for and sure, her oxygen was great.
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Speaker 3: It was like ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, something
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Speaker 3: like that. And she said, well, let's check yours. Now
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Speaker 3: I was the one that ran out because I was
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Speaker 3: feeling reasonably fine. Well, my oxygen was like eighty seven.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 3: And she's like, what do we do? And I said, well,
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Speaker 3: let's give it to day and see what happens. Well,
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Speaker 3: I wake up a few hours before my wife, and
19:35
Speaker 3: I woke up before her that morning, and she had
19:38
Speaker 3: the pall socks on the nightstand. I went over and
19:41
Speaker 3: I checked my oxygen and it was down in the seventies.
19:45
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's wonder you weren't passing out yet.
19:49
Speaker 2: Maybe that's coming.
19:50
Speaker 3: I'm gomory, so I'm going to say that too.
19:53
Speaker 2: But you guys are tough.
19:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I realized, okay, there's no talking her
19:58
Speaker 3: out of going to the hospital. So I I came down.
20:01
Speaker 3: I knew I started catching up once more because I
20:04
Speaker 3: haven't been doing a lot of work. And when she
20:05
Speaker 3: came down, she's like, all right, let's check your oxygen.
20:08
Speaker 3: And of course I am reading to the answer, and
20:10
Speaker 3: she's like, all right, you're going to the hospital. You're
20:12
Speaker 3: going to the doctor. So I set an appointment, go
20:14
Speaker 3: to the doctor, and they basically scold us there and
20:18
Speaker 3: talk about mont colonial anybody's They just scold us. And
20:23
Speaker 3: what ended up happening was another not just three months,
20:27
Speaker 3: more like I mean all the way up to my
20:30
Speaker 3: primary care physician, another five months of scolding by these people.
20:35
Speaker 3: And so we leave there and go into the hospital.
20:39
Speaker 3: She drops me off at the er and goes to
20:42
Speaker 3: park the car, and I walk up to the desk
20:44
Speaker 3: and I say, I have to say it in multiple breaths.
20:47
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm having trouble breathing. And they immediately take
20:53
Speaker 3: me back behind the curtain and put me on oxygen.
20:56
Speaker 3: I hear her on the other side of the curtain.
20:58
Speaker 3: She's like, where's my husband, And they say, well, we
21:01
Speaker 3: have them. You need to leave because they weren't letting
21:04
Speaker 3: family in the hospital. Well, neither of us realized it.
21:07
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that would be another two months before
21:09
Speaker 3: i'd see her, and she didn't realize it'd be another
21:13
Speaker 3: couple of weeks before she'd see May. And they told
21:17
Speaker 3: her to go out and wait in the car. This
21:18
Speaker 3: is August in Texas. And so they had her waiting
21:22
Speaker 3: in the car in August in Texas. And after a
21:24
Speaker 3: couple hours, I said, you should just go home. I
21:27
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen. I texted her and
21:30
Speaker 3: they ended up admitting me and for that was August tenth,
21:33
Speaker 3: and I still remember it was about nine o'clock in
21:37
Speaker 3: the evening. The doctor came into my room and he
21:40
Speaker 3: prescribed rem deeseverr. He He didn't tell me that multiple
21:46
Speaker 3: studies had shown that rem deesvir didn't work for COVID.
21:49
Speaker 3: He didn't tell me that the World Health Organization put
21:52
Speaker 3: out a policy ten months earlier saying, don't give remdesvie
21:57
Speaker 3: for COVID because it doesn't work. He didn't tell me
22:00
Speaker 3: that they knew remdsvir was very dangerous because in twenty fifteen,
22:04
Speaker 3: when they repurposed it free bullet killed fifty three percent
22:07
Speaker 3: of the people they gave it to.
22:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, more than half.
22:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't tell me I was putting my kidneys
22:13
Speaker 3: at risk. And he definitely didn't tell me that. On
22:15
Speaker 3: August tenth, twenty twenty one, the day they prescribed roumdsverer
22:18
Speaker 3: to me, it was one that three drugs listed on
22:21
Speaker 3: cms dot gov where the doctors would get a twenty
22:24
Speaker 3: percent bonus if they prescribed that drug for COVID.
22:28
Speaker 2: You nailed it.
22:29
Speaker 3: So for for eleven days, I kind of thought, and I,
22:36
Speaker 3: you know, my oxygen would dip down. I would do
22:38
Speaker 3: different breathing exercises to get back up. Eventually I had
22:41
Speaker 3: to start getting on my belly to get back up,
22:44
Speaker 3: and I was fighting I was hanging in there, and
22:47
Speaker 3: and on August twenty first, they transferred me to another room,
22:51
Speaker 3: a higher care room, and they increased my oxygen, which
22:55
Speaker 3: would have been you know, it should have been great.
22:57
Speaker 3: I had more, you know, I had a uh, you know,
22:59
Speaker 3: high buying canula one high flow. Yeah. And and I'll
23:08
Speaker 3: never forget a couple of things happened. Uh. The doctor
23:12
Speaker 3: stopped by, and I referenced him in my book. My
23:15
Speaker 3: wife and I wrote a book called Hope that Won't Die.
23:18
Speaker 3: And there's two paragraphs from that book. And by the way, earlier,
23:22
Speaker 3: earlier in the book, I introduced a doctor. I say,
23:24
Speaker 3: if Droopy the dog was a doctor, he would look
23:26
Speaker 3: exactly like this man. It was. The guy would combine.
23:29
Speaker 3: It would just look so depressed, oh gosh. And and
23:33
Speaker 3: so these paragraphs read, the doctor stopped by for a
23:37
Speaker 3: brief chastisement. Not drop the doctor. This guy was more
23:41
Speaker 3: like a schoolmarm with an exceptionally high opinion of himself,
23:44
Speaker 3: and his schoolmarm duties today were to inform me of
23:47
Speaker 3: my sins and how bad things come to those who sin.
23:53
Speaker 2: You were unvaccinated, of course, that probably came up.
23:56
Speaker 3: That's that was the sid that was, and it goes
23:59
Speaker 3: on says As I reflected on that conversation, I realized
24:03
Speaker 3: he believed I would die in the next few days.
24:05
Speaker 3: So his priority was to make his last words to
24:07
Speaker 3: a dying man a chastisement. And my life was in
24:10
Speaker 3: the hands of such a person.
24:12
Speaker 2: That is so incredible, unbelievable.
24:15
Speaker 3: And after he left, the nurse came in and said,
24:18
Speaker 3: we're going to give you something will help you sleep.
24:20
Speaker 3: Ended up being an armful of morphine, Oh my god,
24:24
Speaker 3: which suppresses respiration. And at this point, so this is
24:30
Speaker 3: August twenty first, I'm twenty two days into the disease.
24:34
Speaker 3: All I have to do is make it a few
24:35
Speaker 3: more days and the disease will just move on. I'd
24:39
Speaker 3: been fighting, I've been doing well, and the one thing
24:42
Speaker 3: that's got me was that armful of morphine.
24:45
Speaker 2: Yeah sos everything down, Yeah everything. And I'm curious if
24:49
Speaker 2: they even gave you any kind of you know, anti inflammatories,
24:52
Speaker 2: like because they did use ChIL and all. And the
24:54
Speaker 2: one thing that's so important about the Thailand on I
24:56
Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier at the beginning of the show, Why
24:58
Speaker 2: I've Got cracked the code, the tail and all shuts
25:01
Speaker 2: off your glucothion for twenty four hours. That's just one
25:04
Speaker 2: dose of it. So if you infuse ivy tail and all,
25:07
Speaker 2: which they were also doing, you now turn off your
25:10
Speaker 2: detoxification process for days until you come off of it.
25:15
Speaker 2: And what do you need to get through the virus
25:18
Speaker 2: but your master detoxifier. So then what happened?
25:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so then that's when they woke her up,
25:26
Speaker 3: you know, six hours later, they call her in the
25:28
Speaker 3: middle of the night. And that's why he I mean,
25:30
Speaker 3: he's seen this playbook. He'd seen this playbook. He knew
25:33
Speaker 3: what was about to happen. He knew I was about
25:36
Speaker 3: to go on the vent layer. This was going to
25:38
Speaker 3: be the last time he was going to talk to me.
25:39
Speaker 3: And so he decided combine and chastise me.
25:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the nail and your cross.
25:46
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and so they called her and you got
25:51
Speaker 3: some of that story, and she asked him. She said,
25:53
Speaker 3: how many people have survived? And he said none have survived?
25:56
Speaker 3: And she said, look, you've basically given him a death sentence,
26:00
Speaker 3: and so they they did that, and then fortunately she said, look,
26:08
Speaker 3: if he's going to die, he's not going to die alone.
26:10
Speaker 3: And she forced her way into the hospital and they
26:13
Speaker 3: started giving her one hour a day. And yeah, she
26:18
Speaker 3: almost got arrested one time coming in, but they gave
26:22
Speaker 3: her an hour a day. And she'd come in and
26:23
Speaker 3: she'd sing to me and she'd pray over me, and
26:26
Speaker 3: she'd say words of encouragement. I heard her.
26:29
Speaker 2: That's incredible. She sounds like an awesome, awesome wife. That
26:33
Speaker 2: is incredible.
26:34
Speaker 3: Amen, yeah, give up, no, and you know, and so
26:39
Speaker 3: here we are going on the vent later August twenty second,
26:43
Speaker 3: and she, you know, she wait, she starts texting people.
26:49
Speaker 3: She texted my our next door neighbor and she came
26:53
Speaker 3: over right away and sat with her. She texted my
26:57
Speaker 3: brother and his wife who live in Maryland, and they
27:01
Speaker 3: said we will be there tomorrow. We're getting in the
27:06
Speaker 3: car and we're driving and she said, well, you can't
27:09
Speaker 3: do anything for Craig, and they said, well, we're coming
27:11
Speaker 3: for you. And they drove straight through the night from
27:16
Speaker 3: Maryland to Texas to sit with her and her sons.
27:20
Speaker 3: She has two sons. One came the first week, the
27:23
Speaker 3: other came the second week. And labor day was approaching.
27:26
Speaker 3: She said, you know, she had taken a couple of
27:29
Speaker 3: weeks off work, and she realized that she needed to
27:34
Speaker 3: figure out what life was about to look like. And
27:36
Speaker 3: so she told him, she said, why don't you go home,
27:38
Speaker 3: get some rest, and come back for Craig's funeral. And
27:42
Speaker 3: that was Labor Day twenty twenty one.
27:44
Speaker 2: Wow.
27:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, and her company did something absolutely amazing. I'm going
27:50
Speaker 3: to call them out. It was NCR. They've since been
27:52
Speaker 3: bought by a private equity, and private equity does what
27:55
Speaker 3: private equity does, It ruins great companies. But NCR told her,
28:01
Speaker 3: they say, hey, here's what we're going to do for you.
28:04
Speaker 3: You're going to work halftime and we're going to pay
28:06
Speaker 3: you full time, take care of your husband.
28:08
Speaker 2: How incredible? Yeah, how incredible?
28:12
Speaker 3: Yeah? And so now they, like everybody else, thought I'd
28:16
Speaker 3: be dead in a week or two. So they didn't
28:17
Speaker 3: think it'd be that long. But they ended up doing
28:20
Speaker 3: doing that for her from Labor Day all the way
28:24
Speaker 3: until January third, when she returned to work.
28:26
Speaker 2: What I kept, there are good people out there, that's
28:30
Speaker 2: what we have to hold on to. Yeah, And she
28:33
Speaker 2: worked part time and she worked halftime.
28:37
Speaker 3: They paid her full time, and so, well, I was
28:40
Speaker 3: still here in Austin. She you know, she'd get off work.
28:44
Speaker 3: You know, her time to visit me was I think
28:46
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the afternoon. She'd come by and
28:50
Speaker 3: then then became you know, then they so September eleventh,
28:55
Speaker 3: they put put me on a track, and September sixteenth
29:02
Speaker 3: they removed the feeding tube from my nose and put
29:04
Speaker 3: a feeding tube in my stomach. And so they're starting
29:06
Speaker 3: to work towards.
29:09
Speaker 2: Maybe waking you up. Yeah.
29:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and what's funny is I can I can
29:17
Speaker 3: tell you where I was on the what I was
29:19
Speaker 3: dreaming on those days. My dreams correlated with reality really yeah,
29:25
Speaker 3: So okay, one of my dreams there were people that
29:31
Speaker 3: died in my dreams that correlated to those who were
29:35
Speaker 3: dying around me. And so on September sixteenth, and my
29:40
Speaker 3: dream I was in an agrarian village in the North
29:43
Speaker 3: Carolina Mountains. It was down in valley, and the patriarch
29:48
Speaker 3: of the village where it was working in the sawmill
29:50
Speaker 3: and he died, and so they had to get him
29:52
Speaker 3: out of the valley. And for some reason I was
29:55
Speaker 3: attached to him for a cable going through my nose,
29:58
Speaker 3: and they took us up the hill with that cable
30:01
Speaker 3: going through the nose and he was laying beside me,
30:05
Speaker 3: and they put us on a train heading out and
30:10
Speaker 3: I was supposed to get off on one stop, and
30:13
Speaker 3: there was all sorts of confusion. Folks were upset. There
30:16
Speaker 3: was somebody about five feet away from me talking on
30:21
Speaker 3: the phone to try to coordinate what, you know, who
30:26
Speaker 3: was supposed to meet me, what they were supposed to do.
30:29
Speaker 3: The train ended up moving on, pulled into Harper's Ferry,
30:32
Speaker 3: West Virginia, and that's where they pulled me off the train.
30:37
Speaker 3: So on September sixteenth, I had the feeding tube removed
30:40
Speaker 3: from my nose cable. Yeah, they also transferred me. They
30:47
Speaker 3: downgraded me from the ICU to the IMC, and so
30:51
Speaker 3: they were putting in another room. Now this didn't make
30:53
Speaker 3: my wife's journal because she probably didn't know, but I'm
30:56
Speaker 3: guessing there was some confusion that the room wasn't ready
30:59
Speaker 3: and they were upset, and there was some tense conversation
31:02
Speaker 3: of Hey, we have this guy coming out of surgery
31:04
Speaker 3: and we've got to put him in a room. And
31:07
Speaker 3: so that's that's an example of reality, you know, reality
31:12
Speaker 3: matching lining up with my dreams, unless there's another reason
31:17
Speaker 3: I was dreaming about being drug up a mountain with
31:19
Speaker 3: a cable going through my nose.
31:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so crazy.
31:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:24
Speaker 2: So through all this kind of where did that lead
31:27
Speaker 2: you to the point of starting to they started to
31:30
Speaker 2: take you off the event? What was their plan there?
31:33
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I was I got off the event there,
31:36
Speaker 3: and I got off the event and I they transferred
31:42
Speaker 3: me to a hospital in San Antonio and the and
31:48
Speaker 3: but when they transported me, they put me back on
31:51
Speaker 3: the event. So I was on the event twenty five
31:53
Speaker 3: days the first time.
31:54
Speaker 2: So you were awake and it was on your track.
31:56
Speaker 2: So you were now invented And were you talking at
31:58
Speaker 2: this point or now?
32:00
Speaker 3: No? I went talking, and from my perspective, I was light.
32:04
Speaker 3: I was out of it. Now I was interacting with
32:08
Speaker 3: my wife like in my world again, I can line
32:12
Speaker 3: up things and I in my world, I was still
32:17
Speaker 3: in harper'shirey in a weird medical commune. Uh that was
32:21
Speaker 3: handling me roughly. They had put a willow read in
32:24
Speaker 3: my throat because it was make me better. And and
32:30
Speaker 3: my wife came in to visit me, and she came
32:32
Speaker 3: in on my right and I looked at her. I said,
32:35
Speaker 3: you gotta get me eye here what's happening here is
32:37
Speaker 3: not good, and what's interesting. The reason is significance. It's
32:42
Speaker 3: on the right is I asked her, I said, when
32:45
Speaker 3: you would visit me, were you on the left or
32:47
Speaker 3: on the right? She said, I was always on the left.
32:49
Speaker 3: I said, what about September twenty first? And she said,
32:53
Speaker 3: all that day I was in on your on the right.
32:56
Speaker 3: And so that's where she approached me in the dream.
32:59
Speaker 3: And I was able to line up a few other things. Okay,
33:02
Speaker 3: so I was aware of her, but I was I mean,
33:06
Speaker 3: if I was awake, I certainly wasn't in my right mind.
33:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably had just so sedated and all the
33:11
Speaker 2: mines on board. Do you know what other medications they
33:14
Speaker 2: had you on? I mean, because people often talk about
33:17
Speaker 2: a variety of things, not just morphine. Did you see
33:21
Speaker 2: your medical record too? I imagine did you go back
33:23
Speaker 2: and look at that?
33:24
Speaker 3: I have it, I haven't looked at all of it.
33:26
Speaker 3: I still want to go back and look at how
33:27
Speaker 3: much morphine they shot in me. I know when I
33:30
Speaker 3: woke up. So they transported me to San Antonio because
33:32
Speaker 3: there wasn't ay Ltach in Austin that could take me
33:35
Speaker 3: and would take my insurance. Okay, there, they put me
33:40
Speaker 3: on a either there or at the acute care. They
33:44
Speaker 3: put me on anti narcolepsy medicine, which they forgot to
33:50
Speaker 3: take me off of. I was awake for a month
33:52
Speaker 3: in struggling, sleeping before they realized they still had me
33:55
Speaker 3: on the anti narcolepsy medicine.
33:57
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, it's a stimulant. They do give that
34:01
Speaker 2: to people for an arcallpsey. That's interesting. I'm just curious.
34:04
Speaker 2: At some point I'd love to hear what meds they
34:06
Speaker 2: had and did they make any comments to you or say, wow,
34:09
Speaker 2: we didn't think you'd live, but you're just your vitals
34:11
Speaker 2: everything stayed stable, probably because you were so far along
34:14
Speaker 2: with COVID. Your body was, like you said, those last
34:17
Speaker 2: few days, once they lifted off the sedation, you were healing. Yeah.
34:23
Speaker 3: So I never you know, after that doctor chastised me,
34:27
Speaker 3: I never saw that crew again. It was lights out
34:30
Speaker 3: for me. But the day before I left the hospital,
34:32
Speaker 3: that same guy that chastised me came in my room
34:36
Speaker 3: and my wife said, hey, in this wonderful you got
34:40
Speaker 3: a survivor. And he looked at it and just said
34:43
Speaker 3: grunted and said, well, he's really weak and then left
34:45
Speaker 3: the room.
34:46
Speaker 2: Lord Bove, isn't that amazing? That's all I heard. No
34:49
Speaker 2: one knew the survivors. All we counted were the deaths.
34:52
Speaker 2: And I would ask that same question. I'm like, who
34:55
Speaker 2: can we celebrate how many have made it through? They
34:58
Speaker 2: don't have those statistics account at where COVID. I see
35:01
Speaker 2: you ventilator's deaths all that. I think you're paid the
35:05
Speaker 2: more that died, the more they came in.
35:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's crazy, you know. So here
35:13
Speaker 3: here's one thing that we learned in hindsight. Uh, do
35:16
Speaker 3: you ever have a relative that's waking up from a
35:18
Speaker 3: coma assume they know nothing and tell them everything. And
35:22
Speaker 3: so I'm sitting in San Antonio. I don't know where
35:25
Speaker 3: I am. Actually think I'm in North Carolina. I have
35:28
Speaker 3: a trait, so I can't talk. And I had a
35:32
Speaker 3: couple of people come by to visit one day, and
35:34
Speaker 3: the second one called my wife and asked for directions.
35:37
Speaker 3: And I'm listening to give directions and I realized, oh,
35:40
Speaker 3: I'm in San Antonio. That was the first time I
35:43
Speaker 3: realized where you were where I was, and you know,
35:48
Speaker 3: and there were a few things that I meant I
35:50
Speaker 3: didn't know I had a trait. I knew there was
35:54
Speaker 3: in my world. There was some weird bamboo apparatus on
35:58
Speaker 3: my chest.
35:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't get it all.
36:01
Speaker 3: Yeah. And when they would come by and do suction,
36:03
Speaker 3: that was that was never fun.
36:05
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know that's the other interesting point too.
36:08
Speaker 2: When we put people under sedation for the you know,
36:10
Speaker 2: going into the operating room or if you're in the
36:12
Speaker 2: ICU and they've got used to date it on event,
36:14
Speaker 2: hearing generally has some longevity to it, and hearing is
36:18
Speaker 2: really the last to go. And so things that may
36:21
Speaker 2: have connected or you may have heard sounds or different
36:23
Speaker 2: things probably created some of this delusional type thinking or
36:27
Speaker 2: not clear thinking, and certainly for a good reason. And
36:30
Speaker 2: so getting half information or pieces of information, your brain's
36:34
Speaker 2: trying to like figure it all out and process it.
36:36
Speaker 2: But it's interesting you heard so much and then I
36:39
Speaker 2: guess where did you kind of get to that point?
36:42
Speaker 3: Next?
36:42
Speaker 2: What's you know? You were there? You were in the
36:44
Speaker 2: rehab facility on a tree.
36:46
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and let me throw out this real quick
36:50
Speaker 3: one thing. I remember I told you about how my
36:51
Speaker 3: wife approached from the right. Yeah, that was the end
36:54
Speaker 3: of the dream, but it was actually the beginning of
36:56
Speaker 3: her visit. She made it. She was in very very
36:59
Speaker 3: few of my dream, and when she was there, it
37:01
Speaker 3: was at the very end of the dream. And you
37:04
Speaker 3: know this, Our brain consumes a tremendous amount of energy,
37:08
Speaker 3: a tremendous number of calories. And I was in my chart.
37:12
Speaker 3: I was anorexit. They had been starving me, and I
37:16
Speaker 3: think what was happening was when she would show up,
37:18
Speaker 3: my brain would say, you're safe. Now, let's shut down
37:22
Speaker 3: a few things and rest.
37:23
Speaker 2: How awesome. And that's why they kept people out of
37:27
Speaker 2: the hospitals. And I'm surprised she even got herself in,
37:30
Speaker 2: which is phenomenal. My husband worked at the hospital that
37:33
Speaker 2: I was in, and they forbade him from being in
37:35
Speaker 2: the in the ICU threatened him with his job. Did
37:38
Speaker 2: you walk through those doors, you will lose your job,
37:40
Speaker 2: And of course you know here I'm in the hospital.
37:42
Speaker 2: You know, so what happened? How did you get to
37:45
Speaker 2: the next point?
37:46
Speaker 3: And you so? Yeah, So I wake up in about
37:50
Speaker 3: a week or so later, they removed the traits. I
37:52
Speaker 3: can finally talk, and apparently I was saying some pretty
37:57
Speaker 3: crazy things, had some warped views of what was real
38:00
Speaker 3: what wasn't. That's something else. I was talking to a
38:04
Speaker 3: speech therapist and she said, you know, the speech therapist
38:07
Speaker 3: should have told you and told your family, Hey, he's
38:09
Speaker 3: going to believe some wacky things. It's that's why i'd
38:16
Speaker 3: lost my mind. Yeah, nobody talked to you about that. No,
38:21
Speaker 3: that's criminal. So you were in bed for all this
38:24
Speaker 3: time too. You were weak.
38:26
Speaker 2: They probably didn't feed you as much nutrients as you needed.
38:30
Speaker 2: So you were anorexic pulling yourself back together. And then
38:34
Speaker 2: how how you got out? You got home? What was
38:37
Speaker 2: that like?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I finished up at the LTACH, transferred back
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Speaker 3: to Austin to a rehab hospital where you know, I
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Speaker 3: learned to walk again and do other things. My my
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Speaker 3: oot gave me a wedgie. Poor communication on my part. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I was obviously I'd learned how to use the toilet,
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Speaker 3: toilet again with new core muscles, and so this one day,
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Speaker 3: my first time was a disasters. Second time, She's like,
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Speaker 3: I tell you, I'll make you a deal. You stand up,
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Speaker 3: I'll pull your shorts up for you, and then you
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Speaker 3: sit back down the toilet and then we'll transfer you
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Speaker 3: to the wheelchair, and you know you've reached a new
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Speaker 3: low point in life when strange women offering to pull
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Speaker 3: your shorts up for you is like one of the
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Speaker 3: best things you've ever heard. And so I stand up.
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Speaker 3: She pulls my shorts up. I look back at the
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Speaker 3: toilet and realize if I sit down, I'm gonna have
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Speaker 3: to stand up again. That's hard. So I just said
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go straight for the wheelchair. But I
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Speaker 3: didn't tell her, and I wasn't wearing a gate belt,
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Speaker 3: and so she sees me moving in a direction she's
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Speaker 3: not expecting. She freaks out. The only thing she can
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Speaker 3: grab is the back of my shorts. She yanks them
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Speaker 3: up to my shoulders as she guides me into the wheelchair.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, Oh memorable moments. Oh my gosh.
39:56
Speaker 2: So listen, Craig, this story is just incredible. You have
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Speaker 2: survived so much more than people, I think even realized
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Speaker 2: until they heard just from your mouth to our ears.
40:07
Speaker 2: Where do you draw your drive, your determination, and what
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Speaker 2: can you share with everybody to kind of give them
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Speaker 2: hope and maybe understanding of why we have to question things.
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Speaker 2: What do you want the world to know? What do
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Speaker 2: you want the world to know.
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Speaker 3: So I would say the first thing is, never ever
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Speaker 3: let doctor bully you again. They are required ethically and
40:31
Speaker 3: they are required legally to answer your questions. And you
40:35
Speaker 3: just sit there, keep hammering away questions and be bold.
40:40
Speaker 3: Don't trust that they have it all figured out. A
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Speaker 3: story for another interview would be how my primary care
40:46
Speaker 3: physician had me headed for permanent kidney damage because I
40:51
Speaker 3: was I was doing Camp Gladiator or may for too
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Speaker 3: long and too long with hypoxya was hurting my kidneys,
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Speaker 3: and my doctor kept telling me to keep working out
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Speaker 3: instead saying, hey, why don't we dial that back to
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Speaker 3: thirty minutes? So they're not always the doctors don't always
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Speaker 3: have it right, and so you need to advocate for yourself.
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Speaker 3: You need to ask tough questions, don't let them bully you.
41:19
Speaker 3: And there's it's so easy to do, and there's some
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Speaker 3: science behind it. There's the Milgrim experiments that show that
41:27
Speaker 3: these guys just carry incredible authority in our minds and
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Speaker 3: make us do things that we don't want to do.
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Speaker 3: Don't let them do that.
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Speaker 2: I love it. What about you? How did you get
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Speaker 2: to where?
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Speaker 3: I mean?
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Speaker 2: You seem like you're back active or you're active, How
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Speaker 2: did you get to the point where you, you know,
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Speaker 2: are your best self now eating well, exercise and how
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Speaker 2: did you get back to that?
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Speaker 3: Well? Being a marine, we you know, we we we
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Speaker 3: just take it on. We tackle the tough. And so
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Speaker 3: I started going to this workout called Camp Gladiator when
41:58
Speaker 3: I'm still in a wheelchair and still on oxygen. And
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Speaker 3: the main reason was I couldn't get I couldn't get
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Speaker 3: an ot out to the house, and I wasn't getting
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Speaker 3: any upper body strength. And so I saw this. I'd
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Speaker 3: never been to one before, and they had free workout
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Speaker 3: at the mall next to our house. And so I
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Speaker 3: showed up one cold January morning and my wheelchair with
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Speaker 3: my ball of oxygen and started doing Camp Gladiator. And
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Speaker 3: I've been going ever since. I was there this morning,
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Speaker 3: actually this morning, I was with the original trainer that
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Speaker 3: trained me that first time. And it's hard. My lungs
42:37
Speaker 3: are not fully recovered. We were doing an exercise this
42:40
Speaker 3: morning where we would do kind of like the crow.
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Speaker 3: We'd stay on one leg and we'd take a kettlebell
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Speaker 3: and put it around, you know, wrap it around our
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Speaker 3: head to work on balance. Well, I have neuropthie in
42:53
Speaker 3: my feet, so my balance stinks, and so there's still
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Speaker 3: a lie of recovery. But you know what, you just
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Speaker 3: got to show up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we probably do need to do
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Speaker 2: another show or two because there's so much more that
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Speaker 2: I think we have to share with folks. What about
43:10
Speaker 2: you know where you are now? That didn't stop you,
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Speaker 2: your company, that your people took over things, and now
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Speaker 2: where are you back now you're driving a company.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, my team's just been amazing. They stepped
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Speaker 3: up to the plate. I we don't have enough time
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Speaker 3: in the show for me to bragle my team enough.
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Speaker 3: They're just amazing. But yeah, back to work. I mean
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Speaker 3: life is when I first returned to work, I'd work
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Speaker 3: for a couple hours than nap, then work for a
43:39
Speaker 3: couple hours than nap, and I got more and more,
43:42
Speaker 3: but just got to show up and do it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you do have Beeers determination and like I
43:48
Speaker 2: always tell my patients, we don't try, we train. And
43:51
Speaker 2: I'd love to know too, did you have any like
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Speaker 2: residual stuff with like hypertension where you're at rest and
43:57
Speaker 2: your blood pressure shoots up, you get a high pulse rate,
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Speaker 2: any any residual trouble breathing. You're just you're still on
44:03
Speaker 2: the road to recovery. I guess.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So my resting heart rates in the sixties right now.
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Speaker 3: My blood pressure is on the high side of normal,
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Speaker 3: but some of that's genetic. I have always been that way.
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Speaker 3: The biggest thing is I furthest I've been able to
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Speaker 3: run is just over half mile. I used to run
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Speaker 3: three miles and it's been hard to my two drops
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Speaker 3: down the seventies when I run.
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Speaker 2: Well, hang tight, don't go anywhere. We're going to wrap up.
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Speaker 2: But I want to thank you so much. Your story
44:35
Speaker 2: is just it's amazing. I think we need to learn
44:37
Speaker 2: a little bit more and hear some more, especially because
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Speaker 2: you took yourselves from such a place and you're still successful.
44:44
Speaker 2: And again I get it, you know, simplify amazing And
44:48
Speaker 2: marine husband, I didn't ask you have kids.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my I have a son who sadly passed away
44:55
Speaker 3: last year, and my wife has two two boys. At
44:59
Speaker 3: some else we could talk about the drug epidemic we
45:04
Speaker 3: have in the US.
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Speaker 2: We will. We're going to talk just after this. Yeah,
45:07
Speaker 2: this is National Suicide Prevention Month and with all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: But listen, I want to give a shout out. Thanks
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Speaker 2: so much folks for being patient listening to Craig's story.
45:17
Speaker 2: I know sometimes we get questions, but I think people
45:19
Speaker 2: are in just such awe of like, oh my god,
45:21
Speaker 2: they can't believe what they just heard. We are here
45:24
Speaker 2: every Thursday, three pm, Wellness and Censored. We are here
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Speaker 2: for you, because of you, and because we're fighters. We're
45:30
Speaker 2: going to speak the truth. We're going to fight back.
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Speaker 2: Tune in every Thursday. If you want to hear the
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Speaker 2: so much, Craig, stay tuned, don't go anywhere, and folks,
45:43
Speaker 2: be well, have a wonderful weekend, Be blessed, stay strong,
45:45
Speaker 2: and don't forget ninety eight to eight. If you're ever
45:48
Speaker 2: in an emotional time you need support and you think
45:50
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Speaker 2: share that number, tell a friend, get help if you
45:57
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