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Redefining Success: Why Effort Trumps Entitlement Every Time with George Grombacher · Let's Get Naked

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  SPEAKER_02: I'm Ann, and this is Let's Get Naked, the show where we expose the patterns, challenge the stories, and share the cheat codes that make life a whole lot easier.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get naked.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today we're talking about one of the greatest tragedies in life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not failure, but wasted potential.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because failure means you tried.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wasted potential is knowing you were capable of more and choosing comfort instead.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the business you never started, the conversation you never had, the weight you never lost, the book you never wrote, the dream you talked about for 20 years and never touched.
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  SPEAKER_02: Most people aren't limited by their ability, they're limited by their willingness.
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  SPEAKER_02: They wait until they're more confident, more motivated, more certain.
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  SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, life keeps moving.
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  SPEAKER_02: And here's the part nobody likes to hear.
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  SPEAKER_02: Potential means absolutely nothing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nobody gets points for talent.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody gets credit for intentions.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody cares what you could have done.
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  SPEAKER_02: The scoreboard only records what you actually did.
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  SPEAKER_02: At some point, we all have to decide: are we going to spend our lives collecting reasons or collecting results?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because one day you'll either look back at your life and think, I wonder what would have happened if I had gone for it, or you'll know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today's guest has built his life around helping people close the gap between who they are and who they're capable of becoming.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because the most expensive thing you'll ever own isn't a bad investment, it's untapped potential.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's get naked.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today I'm stripping it all off with George Grumbacher.
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  SPEAKER_02: George is all of the things entrepreneur, author, financial advisor, podcast host.
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  SPEAKER_02: I could keep going.
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  SPEAKER_02: His core philosophy is simple but demanding.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get better.
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  SPEAKER_02: Live how you want.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do your part by doing your best.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the show, George.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, thanks for having me back on.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: George was on a couple of months ago, and I just I I fuck with his energy hard.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're just going to start with the F-bums because you know the producer's like, hey, watch it.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, we will not.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: Not today, not with the backwards hat.
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  SPEAKER_02: So That's exactly right.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't tell me my business.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing worse than potential.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: But think about that.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like think about when you the books that you uh write.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've read several of them.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's exactly what you're speaking about is people just leaving leaving shit on the table, not doing the things, not taking accountability for their own lives, not taking uh, you know, responsibility for their own decisions, sitting on the sidelines.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like that feels like a it's pretty aligned as far as the topic today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh, you know, I I I don't need a lot of motivation.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: I just sort of get up and and go and I pursue things.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I wonder if that's that's obviously not everybody, but there's at least half the people out there that have the ability to do that.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe that movable middle is is is what I'm trying to uh influence.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, I feel like, you know, you have a I feel like people that are authors, people that put their their brain out there on paper are really people that are just trying to do their part to help other people, right?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you've found a way, you've found the cheat codes and things that work in your life and being able to share those with other people.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm inspired by it.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I was looking at a stack of books that I have of, you know, guests that have been on the show that are all authors, and it's like very humbling.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_02: And then I look at the percentage of the population that reads, and it makes me sad.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like really sad.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was talking about 10 years ago, it was like 24% or something, and then the most recent numbers, like 16 or 18, and it's like, oh my God, what are we doing?
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's so much knowledge to be had out of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think you know, we're lifelong learners, and I want to be able to tap into all of the things, but you know, obviously you do as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: I 100% do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was I was getting ready for a conversation, and uh the topic was caring, and I was like, oh.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I realized I am this is gonna sound so dumb.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm a very caring person.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you sort of suss out what that really means.
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  SPEAKER_00: And caring has so many different layers, but really the context was I often resist uh mentoring individual people because I realize I would rather be one to many than one-to-one.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think that's a good thing or a bad thing, and I think it's sort of evidence that I've matured and I realize that I'm not capable of doing everything.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: I've only got so much energy and so much attention on a daily basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I need to be a really good steward of how I'm allocating it.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because once I do engage with someone or something, I care deeply and I want the thing or the person to realize their potential or to get what whatever they want.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so I need to be a good steward of of where I allocate that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I I do care.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I think I think a lot of your stuff where you come from, you do want people to win.
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  SPEAKER_02: You do want people to get the things that they want.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I believe in reading your books that it's kind of like a roadmap.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's a lot of really it's it's no nonsense.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I appreciate that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, maybe some people don't appreciate that style of just down and dirty, here's the here's the answers.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you don't like that because yes, it does take work, but it's simple.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like the cheat codes are simple, not easy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Simple.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, don't you think so?
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  SPEAKER_00: Very much.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, you know, people that think that they're going to have some motivation or whatever, it's like, this is not how it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's not how you build this amazing life.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's one small decision after another that just stacks up to amazingness before you even realize what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every one of those great quotes, you know, they're all tried at this point, but Journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be the change you want to be in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all true.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I've got to, you know, get the laundry done and get my kids dropped off and and somehow make it to the gym and try to get a little bit of sleep and all that stuff.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_02: So you don't have time to waste on, you know, silly stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I also just understand that it's how people sort of get trapped and just sort of doing what they're doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're sort of apathetically or unconsciously procrastinating, obviously thinking that they have time as it sort of slips by.
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  SPEAKER_02: What do you think about people that are in a that are in a place that maybe um come from this comparison game of like, oh, so-and-so has must have other circumstances or other ingredients in their recipe that make them more motivated or more disciplined or whatever?
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: I just don't think people realize that there's not any one of us that has any special anything.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's just working your systems, you know, continuing to improve, doing that whole like 1% better.
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  SPEAKER_02: Would you agree with that or what are your thoughts on that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: And life is not fair, and each one of us has been blessed with attributes that are superior to mine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some things I'm better at other people, and some people have better circumstances, and I have better circumstances than other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's a losing game to be thinking about stuff like that.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: I've got I've been seeking my teeth into the the phrase, we have to interact with the world as it is, not as we want it to be.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: Just you gotta, yeah, do your just get out there and and and decide what it is you want to do and then do your work.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who gives a who gives a fuck what anybody else is doing?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: Agreed.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why like why are you why are you running their race?
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  SPEAKER_02: Why are you comparing yourself to someone else that you don't even understand?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I look at people that do that on social media and I'm thinking, you have no idea.
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  SPEAKER_02: You have no idea what their life looks like.
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  SPEAKER_02: And also, why don't you take that energy that you're fucking spending doing that and pour it into your own, see what comes out of that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's an interesting thing.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it's I just think that once you sort of see it, then you can't unsee it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And once that switch somehow gets switched, yeah, flipped, then you can start to do more of the things that we know that we need to take more responsibility, have more agency.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then finally, uh, I think a lot of what the newest book is about is really self-government, governance.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, because that's what it's all about is am I able to self-govern my life?
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you're the you're the direct benefactor, right?
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, how how do you how do you struggle?
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: I know we all struggle, but how do you struggle with that concept of like what you put in, you're going to be the one that gets out.
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  SPEAKER_02: So why would you sit at the starting line and just cry about it and do nothing?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
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  SPEAKER_02: So many people just um, I think just they think that they're going to be feel ready at a certain point.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like readiness isn't a feeling, it's an action.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I say that quite a bit because I just think people, oh, I'll start that when I fill in the blank, whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like anyone who's doing anything right now, just canon bold and is figuring it out.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like people are like, oh, they have it, nobody has it pulled together.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_02: Life is messy as fuck.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like right.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, you're you're potty training kids at home and try to, you know, do all of these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, this is life, it's in session.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: Get out there and do something.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: Will you fail at things?
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, that's part of the process.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: If you're doing it right all the time, you know, and for me, I learn more from the failures than I do from the wins every day, anyways.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like, bring it on, you know, be the buffalo in your own story.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: You used uh a really uh appropriate term, benefactor.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I take it back on the comparison.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think that we should compare, but we should compare ourselves to the people that came before us uh because we are beneficiaries of our own, yeah, of our own work that we get to reap the benefits and be the benefactor of.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm also the beneficiary and the benefactor of thousands, countless people that came before me, sure, that created microphones and the internet and started our country and all of that stuff.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: We stand on the shoulders of giants.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: And if I'm able to have that perspective, then I think it's extremely valuable to say, wow, look at what George Washington did, or whatever, this historical figure, or Elon Musk, look at what he is doing.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's extraordinary, and why people are so mad at him is a fascinating thing.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that fun?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: That what you're talking about, what you're talking about under the surface.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that fun?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh, for sure.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me, do you stay plugged into what's going on out in our world?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Very much.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: Do you?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's the that's the uh that's the ugly part of caring, is because I do care and I want my my kids to have a better world than I have.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: And so I stare at uh the Middle East and I stare at whatever, and then you realize, well, that's where you really go wrong with caring because there is jack shit that I can do about that stuff.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that is a misallocation of my resources, but I still do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that funny?
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  SPEAKER_02: What what do you think you get from it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh anger and frustration, uh, confusion.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's a funny thing.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's a very good thing.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of confusion.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I I look at that because it's funny that you say this.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't realize that you were, I shouldn't say that.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think I knew that you were plugged into things, but um I always am fascinated by people that that stay plugged into what's happening out there, is what I will say, right?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I get it, like stay informed, all of the things, whatever.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: But when you just feed yourself um like food that's you know is gonna give you food poisoning, totally stop eating it.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean like so that's why I'm wondering what you get out of it besides anger and frustration.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: And then if you realize that because you're a smart guy, then why do you keep doing it if it keeps making you sick?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's certainly tempered, and uh I'm not I'm not all the way into it.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's just is sort of glancing at it out of the corner of my eye occasionally to see what uh what the uh what the animals in the zoo are up to or what the inmates in the asylum are uh.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: The animals in the zoo is literally it's perfect.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: I so you know, my husband Cameron has always been the one that pays attention.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't have to.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's a really lovely balance that we have.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: I don't pay attention at all to anything that's happening out there because I think it's a fucking circus.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think it is animals in the zoo, I think it's a you know, a three-ring circus with politics and media and all of the things, right?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I poked my head out a couple months ago and I said to him, I think we're in worse shape than I thought.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's the only only plausible uh thing that you take out of it for sure.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: It is, right?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's like I poke my head up, and the stuff that I see is that we're eating babies and fucking children now.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's that's my takeaway.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Is that is is is that what's happening?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that's what that's what they're reporting, right?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_02: We're we're we're separating people, you know, and and we're we're I mean just the the nonsense that is being put out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, what is happening out there?
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: We just shoot people if we don't like what they say, because nobody has the emotional intelligence to be able to just have a conversation where it's like, share with me your point of view.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, that's interesting.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let me share with you mine.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe my mind will stretch.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I'll change what my beliefs are, maybe I won't.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter, but I'm gonna sit here like an adult and have a conversation instead of like wrong.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: I love that perspective is just wrong.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: No one even listens to understand one another anymore.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: No nuance is uh not having a very good day.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, it isn't.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: As of late.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: And all that being said, I think that for the most part, the people that we encounter in the real world are fairly reasonable.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's the danger of staring at the sun for too long, is you'll burn your eyes out and um just nothing's gonna come out of it.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_02: No, I I agree with that.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think I encourage people to be in the real world, get out in the wild more often, because I think inherently people are actually good.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_02: You know, but if all you did was watch the news and social media and that's how you got fed your fear and hate, it'd be a pretty miserable existence.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And all the uh all the indicators suggest that uh whoever's pulling those levers, it's uh it's it's it's working because uh totally is it's not uh going awesome out there, but it totally is.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: I had my oldest daughter on the other day, and she described um you know, we were talking about energy, and she described this movie called Monsters Inc.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: Have you seen it?
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: Of course I have.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Mike Wazowski.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, perfect.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: So for anyone that's you know watching or listening that hasn't seen this show, go see it.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, go see it because it's it's actually incredible.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, and it's an older movie, you could get just order it up on your Netflix.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, but the monsters make the kids scream, and that's how they harvest the energy, right?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: And the end of the movie is such that the monsters figure out that in order to power the town, they can make these kids laugh and giggle and have the same effect, right?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like when you realize that your energy is literally being harvested by people that profit off of the fear and the hate and the division, which is politics, media, social media.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's just it's a circus.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what they're doing, big pharma.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like they just they profit off of fear and hate.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: And um, when you realize that you can get the same result going the other direction, maybe we should look at that.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love it.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Even the kids should have it figured out.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Gotta opt out.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, opt out.
• 15:30
  unknown: Yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: So when you want to look at what's going on in the Middle East, you just stop thinking.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Stop doing it.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just stop doing it, George.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: Just stop it.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Chapter seven.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, I'm gonna ask a couple of questions because I think this is fun.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: What's the biggest lie people tell themselves that keep them stuck?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: The biggest lie that people tell themselves is that uh there's nothing they can do about their situation.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: I think that I think that uh victim card that people hold up pretty high is like you just set that down and changes everything.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Changes everything.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: We need we we need to.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is a through line for all of it, for all the everything that you see on TV.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: And our flirtations with socialism as a capitalistic country is just it's death by a thousand cuts of me being broke and me being overweight and me being medicated and me being a dependent when all of a sudden so many people in society have been reduced to dependence or in a childlike state.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then it's not a surprise to me that they'd be looking around for somebody to come and say, Hey, it's all right, buddy.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah come on in here, come into the warm embrace of collectivism.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: And actually, that's what he actually said too, the New York guy.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't he say that?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we're rejecting the cold-hearted nature of individualism and you know, come into the warm embrace of socialism.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: I remember reading that, and it's like he was just shoving an ice pick right into my head as he was saying that.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, is he talking to me?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Are you talking to me, motherfucker?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: I love that you got that in there.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like he might have been.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: So that's I mean, so getting back to the idea of self-governance, yeah, because that's what our country was built on, that's what our founders knew was the right way to do it.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: And as individuals, it starts with me as a person and then my family, and then my community and my neighborhood.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: And you just gotta start inside versus we're just inverting that totally.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're looking outside of ourselves for everything, and there's not too many answers to be found out there.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to like hit people over the head or scream it loud enough from the rooftops that all of the answers you got to turn inside.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because once you do that and you figure out your own shit, you fix your own shit, you're taking care of your family, you're taking care of your tribe, you're taking care of your community, you're able to actually have an impact on things instead of screaming into the void about what you don't like, about what's happening in other parts of the world that you have no, you don't have any recourse, you don't have any, you're not helping.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're you're wasting all of this energy on things that have zero value whatsoever and only cause your own suffering.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how do you I I just want to shake people.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's what makes movies like Monsters Inc.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: and the Golden Books and Fables so valuable, is because they're doing that, but they're they're showing they're not telling, which is what we learned in early English class when we were kids, is you need to show, don't tell.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: And these days, um because we're frustrated and we have we all have the ability to broadcast, we do more telling, and I felt I'm guilty of this also, as opposed to to showing um and try to be more Mark Twain versus just hitting somebody over the head with, you're acting really stupid and you should change your behavior.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: So what do you think about solutions in general for where we are in in things?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like politics, media, these people are not looking for solutions, right?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: My husband and I come from a place of solutions always.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: I think you also do.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: How do we how do we come up with a way to bring those folks together in a meaningful way where there's actually solutions to be had and common ground that we can find and then make progress?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think this where we are now, which is just yelling at the other side that you're right and you're right and I'm right, you know, like you're wrong, I'm right, whatever that is.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: We're just what are we doing?
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: What are we doing, folks?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: We're not moving the needle, we're we're just we're in a standstill and have been for a long time, and it's just a really gross stew that nobody wants to be part of, but nobody knows how to get the fuck out of it, you know?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Pushing ourselves back from the table, and at the table is all the delicious food we can eat and the drugs we can now consume legally, and the social media and the online gambling and just comfort.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Push ourselves back from that and sort of refocus a little bit.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then we'll take it back to elementary school.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: And you maybe remember the DARE program and we talked about gateway drugs, right?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, uh oh, you smoke that joint, it's gonna be black tar heroin before you know it.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I think that there's gateway actions that we can take, and it's just finding that simplest, smallest little action that you can take, and that's putting your shoes on after dinner and going for a walk, whatever it is.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and just start doing that, and you just build small gains, and you say, This week I'm going to go for a walk three times, and then you do that.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, Oh, look at that.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I actually did it.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm proving to myself that I'm capable of keeping my word and doing the things that I told myself that I would do, and that develops a little bit of confidence, which leads to agency and capability.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that that is um as Pollyanna or simple or stupid as that might sound, I think that that really is a way to accomplish what we were just talking about.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think you're wrong.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: I the people that I work with, it's like just start doing something.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: Replace something that drains you with something that energizes you.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's that fucking simple, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: Is it easy?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: No, but life is hard.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard for everybody, you know?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Put your resources towards bettering yourself.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: What an incredible concept that is.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh what are here's a fun one.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: What are people making way too complicated that is actually simple?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: And we probably just covered that just now.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's everything.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_02: Everything.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much everything.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's a great, that's a great answer.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it is everything.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: No, you're not.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I struggling with my wife?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I bet you're just not doing the really simple things.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I overweight?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: I bet you're just eating more than you're supposed to, and you're not exercising enough.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I financially not in a great shape?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're probably spending a little too much money.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's so funny because you do this simple um it's just in your face, but you watch people and they and they explain.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Excuses and bullshit and don't want to take accountability, don't want to look under the rug.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, why, you know, they get to the end of a marriage and it's like, oh, why did it fall apart?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, because you had a fucking bigger relationship with your phone than you did with your wife.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're getting exactly what you ordered.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: If you open your eyes, you realize you're getting exactly what you ordered.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: When George was on last time for our for our viewers, when George was on last time, uh, he said something that has stuck with me, and I use it all the time now.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: But his um the saying was show me the evidence, right?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: If you say that your marriage is important, show me where date nights are on your calendar.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: If you show if you say that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, fill in the blank, show me the evidence.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not about showing me the evidence specifically, it's about showing yourself the evidence so that you can prove to yourself that that is important.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because I agree.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: I think people say, oh, all of these things are important.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, if everything's a priority, nothing is a priority, first of all.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: And then second of all, if you say something is a priority, then back it up.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: Back it up with action, with you know, things that you're doing to show that.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like my marriage is important, and so here are the here's the list of shit that I do.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that you know, to back that up.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: I know that you have the same the same feeling on that.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: We need short deadlines and high expectations.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we need to ask more of ourselves than I think that we do.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's probably true of me also.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was the uh chapter advisor for an undergraduate fraternity at Arizona State University many, many, many years ago, and they got in big trouble and were put on a status called show cause.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that just meant that they need to show the university and the general fraternity why it is that they should continue existing.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's just a great term.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: So you need to show cause to yourself as to why it is that just to not that we have to justify our existences, but I mean, I just think we need to ask more of ourselves.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Why is it?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, because I do believe that everybody is deserving, and I hate that word, but we're deserving of financial security.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: We're worthy of being financially secure, but none of us are entitled to it.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: So we've gotta, we gotta push yourself a little bit.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: I think people have gotten comfortable in all of that shit at the table, right?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because it feels real good to have your all of the things, all of the things that you use to numb, the food and the booze and the the gambling and the porn and the things that make you not have to plug into your life.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: But the problem is then you're getting exactly what you're asking for.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so then you don't get to sit on the other side of it and go, aw, poor me.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I always look at people that want to compare their lives to me, and it's like, well, why should you have, you know, this and I don't get that, which I don't I don't like that whole we all should be leveled.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: My effort is is that's preposterous.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: It is, it is preposterous, but a lot of people think that, right?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's the whole, that's the whole, you know, union mentality, or the whole we're all we're all gonna fall to the same level.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's outrageous.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: There are those of us that are willing to do the hard thing that other people don't have the stomach for.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: There are those of us that are willing to not come home at the end of the day and just sit in front of the tube and actually plug into a second business or a side hustle or a passion project or something.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: That doesn't mean we all should have everything the same.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: That means I encourage you to get up off the couch and turn the TV off because there's nothing fucking good on it anyways, and and and stop wasting your potential.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: But you can't do that if you're bellied up to the table and can't push yourself away.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do the best, get the most, do the worst, get the least.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: That is uh an immutable law of everything, I bet.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: You might not like it, but we must interact with the world as it is, not as we want it to be.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: You always say these things, Tim, I swear to God, it just makes my heart happy because it's like it is that simple, the way that you say them, it is it is that simple, and people will go like ah, ah, ah, and they'll start doing excuses and whatever.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like you realize I'm for the better thing, right?
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, same amount of effort, because I I will maintain that life is hard.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: Pick your hard.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter, right?
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard no matter what.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: But don't you're making excuses so that you can have it worse.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm off I'm saying the better thing.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think you you're doing the exact same thing.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: We're all gonna face a reckoning.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just choose to face my reckoning on a daily basis.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, me too.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: Me too.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'd rather do it right now when I am uh the strongest.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe not that I ever will be, but stronger today than I will be, probably in five years, certainly 10 years, and without question, 20 and 30 years if I'm still alive, for goodness sakes.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd rather handle that now uh than try and you know hit the game-winning home run in the bottom of the ninth inning when I'm 85 years old.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: You you know, there's a there's a thing that I live by, and it's I would rather pay in advance, right?
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: That to me is is a way to live, I believe.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to eat the meal first and then pay afterwards.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: I want to pay in advance for whatever it is.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I just think that's a that's a really lovely way to come from.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I highly encourage that.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh if you could audit someone's life in five minutes, what would you look at first?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great question.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: That is a really great question.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: What would I look at first?
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I talk about and think a lot about six key areas of life: your family, your community, your finances, and your work, your personal development, your well-being, and your peace of mind.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then I map that onto your most valuable resources of time, energy, attention, and money.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: So which of those would I look at first?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I suppose it would be your physical body because that really is the canary in the coal mine, and that's evidence of how caring you are of yourself, and that term self-care is a bad one at this point.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's been beat up, but that's what it's all.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's the whole, you got to put your oxygen mask on first before you help anybody else.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: So this is your vehicle for life.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so we are honoring that and caring for it or or not.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're not, I bet that's also showing up in other areas of your life.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying you need to be, you know, Michelangelo's David or anything like that.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're 500 pounds and uh you can't walk up a flight of stairs or get out of your chair, there's probably uh other areas of life that are also suffering.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the deal: your life isn't going to magically fix itself.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody's coming to save you, but you can learn how to save yourself.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's what this book is.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's a no BS guide to stop outsourcing your happiness, stop making excuses, and start living with purpose.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: If you're tired of waiting for someday, consider this your wake-up call.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: Someday is today.
• 28:47
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• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: Have you you put so you'll know what I'm talking about, I think, when I say it, but I don't know who it is.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: There's there's a guy who said something about the wagon, right?
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: In society is pulling the wagon.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: And years ago it was, okay, the strong people are pulling the wagon, and it's the elderly and the sick that are in the wagon, right?
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: And it gets to the point where the wagon is overloaded, and there's fewer of us that are pulling the wagon than are in the wagon.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: And then the people in the wagon are now motherfuckering the people pulling the wagon, right?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, how do we think this is gonna end, you guys?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we can't have so many people.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: I look at that, I look around at society, and it's like you have to be able to take care of yourself and your own with just nothing but excuses and bullshit, and just I can't even get my head around it.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Part of self-governance requires virtu of a virtuous uh citizenry, and I don't know that we understand what virtue is anymore, but it's virtuous to become as strong as you possibly can be.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you're not a virtuous person if you are incapable of protecting yourself.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're not a virtuous person if if if you're meek and broke.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: You are virtuous if you are wealthy and don't abuse.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: You are a virtuous person if you are extremely strong and don't hurt other people.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: I could, I could do whatever I wanted, but I choose not to.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: The opposite of that is just you're frail and you are weak and broke and bankrupt in every possible way, and then you're in that wagon screaming at the other people.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're screaming at Elon Musk for being a trillionaire and how unfair that is.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: I know, isn't that outrageous?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and that's and you know, then you're you're you've got all your socialists, and what's gonna happen is when everybody runs out of money, then you know, then there's no more money left because now nobody can create anything, which is the obvious conclusion to however that ends.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: I don't understand how in society we motherfucker people for success.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: I had a I had a mini episode that I did on this recently because you know I've spent a lot of time um in my life trying to make my success more palatable for other people because I didn't want them to feel bad, right?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: And when you look at the again comparison, I don't come home at the end of the day and sit in front of the TV, I'm doing my side hustles and like I'm just I'm going 100 miles an hour all the time.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: Why in the world would I feel bad about my success?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to, I'm not trying to brag or flaunt it or whatever, but I also shouldn't have to like put a wet blanket on it to make other people feel comfortable.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like that from the side standpoint also of like the Elon Musk's and the Jeff Bezos and the whatever it's like, God, they rip those guys apart.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I celebrate that.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you know, bringing bringing things to the world.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: Can you imagine life without Amazon?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean I can't.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm that guy helps my life go around.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like we should absolutely celebrate that.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: And people just come from the the cheap seats and like just motherfuck with these guys to death, and I just I don't understand that mentality.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't either.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think about that like this is how do I want to think of myself when I look in the mirror?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so I make choices about my appearance and how I exercise and the foods that I eat and the work that I do and the things I think about.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then it's what example do I want to uh show to my children?
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: I've got two boys and a little girl, and I want them to look at their dad when he's I'm 47 years old, in pretty good shape.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: And when I'm 50, I'm gonna be in really good shape, and I'm gonna be out there competing and whatever I'm competing in athletically and being an entrepreneur and doing business and being as strong as I possibly can be.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: So then I guess once I do that, then I can map it out to my friends and the people that I have influence over.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: But for some fucking loser that's gonna get mad at me because of whatever, I don't have time for that.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: No, it doesn't it doesn't even register.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: And hopefully, hopefully it'll be hopefully it will anger them.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully it will be a motivator.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, love and light's a great thing.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm more of a dark energy kind of a guy, you know?
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's so funny that you say that because I've spent a year and a half doing this show, coming from this love and light perspective, right?
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I post one thing that calls, you know, dudes fucktards uh for for you know how they drive.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's such a great term.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: It is fucked hard, it's it's one of my faves.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's one of my faves, right?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and if you're offended, go fuck yourself.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's a that's a good one.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Losing their minds over you know how to merge in traffic.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, I found how to get you guys.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's all you had to say.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: So now I've literally turned my mini episodes into fuck you's.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: So every mini episode now is like, fuck you.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then I each time that I record one, it's whatever it is, right?
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: The next one that I'm gonna do is like fuck you to the resume guy, because the resume guy is my least favorite.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: The guy that's sitting there with his, you know, oh, look at this.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: I got this$6,000 something, and look at this fancy car.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: And he gives you his whole resume before I'm like, are you trying to big dick me, boss?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, get the fuck out of here.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: But those guys are everywhere.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: Those guys, to me, I fucking hate those guys.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: You realize we're not in high school anymore, right?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like those are the guys that peaked in high school.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Do you realize they don't?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's the well, that's another one of my fuck you's, right?
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think that whole like high school perspective, which I think most people still live in, and I think you know that I'm right because once you see it, you can't unsee it.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I watch TV or I watch people out in public and I'm watching things that are happening, and I'm like, what grade are you guys in?
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: And they're 50, you know, 40, 50.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, this is terrible.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so so that's all I had to do is is embrace my dark side because the light and the love is not getting the 40 and 50 year old men, but you go ahead and call them a fucktard for how they merged.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now all of a sudden they're all up in my biz.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome, gentlemen, because I swear to fucking god, I'm gonna go fishing and I'm gonna get ya.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: The uh the potential thing, uh, circling back on that, because I just can't imagine.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: Can't imagine feeling like I was at my highest level of potential when I was in high school, or just as a young person.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: I just can't imagine that.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: I want my potential to be sort of like a V, and I'm down here, and that it's just expanding and expanding always because I'm learning a new skill or I'm I'm unlocking something new, and like, oh my gosh, I realized I didn't know that I could do that, or that's possible.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I want my potential to be constantly expanding and increasing, uh, not to be already have achieved.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's like if you look back, for me, if I look back a year and it looks similar to where I am right now, I'm missing it.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm missing it because we have unlimited uh resources that are out there.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so when people do this, they're like, oh, I don't have this, I don't have that.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: Fuck off.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: In your pocket is a phone that has this thing called the World Wide Web in there.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: You can find anything.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: How do I do a better fill-in-the-blank, right?
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: So if you say, yes, let's keep our our strongest mind, body, and spirit that you possibly can, right?
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Those things that need investments.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: And for me, it's like, okay, I'm gonna focus harder on my mind right now, I'm gonna focus harder on my body.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_02: You should be working on all three of them at all times.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like, if you're not doing that, you're missing it.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: Why are you having the same year over and over and over again?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: You guys realize that's not the assignment, right?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, how many times can I go to the same fucking bar and sit on the same bar stool and you know lament with my fucking co co-people about how fucking terrible life is and all of the excuses and how unfair things are?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe spend your energy in a different way.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: You'll get different results.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't that be incredible?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, no more light and love.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, light and love.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: I still have the light and love because I, you know, I know that that's part of what I'm supposed to do is like share with people the different resources of things that they can try to be better human beings and all of that.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: And also a bitch slap is necessary to say, hey, wake the fuck up.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: You already have in your control what you can do to be the best version of yourself that you can.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Is it hard?
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all of it is.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: All of it is.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's see.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: If someone feels overwhelmed trying to improve everything at once, where should they start?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I think you already answered this.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's just fucking start anywhere.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like you said, put your tennis shoes on and go for a walk.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: If I get up in the morning and I go for a walk and I'm outside and I don't have my phone on me, you know how great that is?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: When people say, like, I don't sleep well, all you have to do is ask one question.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: How far behind before bedtime, do you put your phone down?
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: I take it to bed with me and I'm then you're getting exactly what you're asking for.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: These are really easy things.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: I just I think people maybe don't want to hear them.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you said it.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever it is that you want to start doing, just look for the smallest action you can take.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: And but once you start, like I watch these people that are at my table of life who um I've beat over the head enough times, I've planted enough seeds where they're like, oh yes, you know, and so I have different people in my life who who will tell me now, like it's addicting once you start working on yourself because you start getting these results of holy shit, if I put better food in my body, I feel better.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: Holy shit, if I get to the gym or I, you know, I'm doing physical activity and moving my body, how much better?
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: And it makes you want to do better.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: Read a book, journal, fucking get outside.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you don't want to be depressed, stop doing depressing shit.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, an object in motion will stay in motion, object in rest will stay at rest.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, once you start moving, it's never it doesn't get easier, but you become more confident in everything you just said.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: You are now moving, and you're actually doing things, you're becoming a river and not a swamp.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: Where did I just see that?
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's funny that you say that because I literally just saw that earlier, and it's like, yes, that's exactly what we're supposed to be doing.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: It continually moving and growing and working on ourselves instead of just sitting around complaining with one another about how shitty life is.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where you definitely don't need to compare anything because if you try to be Elon Musk, you're not going to be.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but improvement is improvement, is improvement is improvement, even if it's tiny.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a really good thing.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: And and again, it's it's it's um as soon as you start seeing the results from that, it makes you want to do more.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: You know, the more that you see, the more it's like, you know, I I liken it to if you had like a ball of snow at the top of the hill and you start rolling it down the hill, it's gonna start picking up momentum, it's gonna start picking up other objects.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: It just gets bigger and bigger as it rolls down the hill.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: You just gotta get it, give it that first push, right?
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: Which is just do anything, do one percent of anything.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_02: I I go through my whole entire life with how can I make this better?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: How can I make this smoother?
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I like to go to spring training games.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: And if I go to a spring training game and I'm like, ooh, I wish I would have had fill in the blanks.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_02: This could have been better if I had a baseball cap or sunscreen for my lips or whatever it is, put notes in my phone so next time I go to a spring training game, I've got those things.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: Look at me.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: My whole fucking life now is just like I got it's like a circus or like a like a carnival where I just put my hands up and I'm enjoying all the things, but I've spent so much time going, how can I make this 1% better?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: How can I make this 1% better?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: In everything.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: Everything in your personal life, everything in your, you know, oh, I wish I would have fill in the blank, whatever it is, then do those things.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: You you get to make your life as amazing as you want.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, mine's really amazing.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: Not to brag.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: I spend a lot of time doing this shit.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, when you look at someone living far below their potential, what's usually the real problem?
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: That they're fucked hards.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: I love you, George.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's everything we're talking about.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're just we're we're we're favoring the present when we need to be favoring the future a little bit more.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a game of perfect.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: We don't need to all of a sudden start doing everything just optimally and perfectly.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but we need to be moving in that direction.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, this is good.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: If someone's life feels off track right now, what's the first thing you'd tell them to stop doing?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: What's the first thing I would tell them to stop doing if they feel like they're off track?
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess uh stop doing the things that make you feel like you're off track.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, what you have to stop doing is doing things exactly as you've been doing them.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: Change anything.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you're not happy with what it is, change anything.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: Do a little reset, you know.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's push back from the table and and this is you know, doing something as opposed to not doing something, but just evaluate those different areas of life.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: Think about your mind, your body, your spirit, all those kinds of things and what it is that you actually want.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I think I think that's really powerful.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: So when you talk about pushing back from the table, I was talking with somebody that I was recording with earlier, and we were saying, you know, if if you feel like your drinking is getting in the way of just you being in touch with yourself or understanding your goals or like whatever that is, push back from the table on that, right?
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't mean you have to be sober and go to AA and like do all of these things, but if that's you something that you're using as a numb and you realize that, push back from that table.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_02: Just go on a little fast, right?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: From from whatever it is that's at the table that has you there, and you'll get in tune with things, and then it will just lead you wherever you're supposed to be going.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's it.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: Just stop numbing, right?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that's what the table is.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: Fasting has been part of every society and every tradition and every religion since the dawn of time, and there's a reason for that.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we don't do that at all.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: We are the opposite of fasting, and that's from social media or whatever, alcohol, you name it.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just let's take a little break here.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pump the brakes.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_02: Pump the brakes, let your mind get quiet for a second.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Give yourself the opportunity to be a little more quiet.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: I went on a camping trip a couple months ago or a couple weeks ago, and three, four days without phone, it was really lovely, but I did start getting the shakes on like day three.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh my god.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder what's going on in the Middle East.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's the last thing I wonder.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_02: That isn't this crossed my head exactly zero times, you know.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, let's see.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you talk about living how you want.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_02: What's the difference between designing your life and simply reacting to it?
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's like that's everything.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't have any control of circumstances of my life, but absolute control over how you think, feel, and respond to them.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: And realizing that I have choice.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: I get to choose.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: I get to choose how I think about and feel about everything.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: How do I want to feel right now about sitting here and having a coffee and talking to Anne?
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: I get to choose how I feel about this.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: I get to choose how I feel about my work.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: I get to choose how I feel about my relationship, my body, everything.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: I get to choose, which means you get to choose also.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: But we don't just we don't exercise that.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think very many people uh and maybe it's indulgent.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe people think it's indulgent or they think it's selfish.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Or they think it is um narcissist.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: But it's true.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: I was explaining to someone earlier about you know, if you don't like the lens you're looking through, get a different pair of glasses.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I I do believe it's that simple.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: I do it is it is it's like it's like you know, when I started doing this this show, it's like I can't get twisted up in what people think.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like that just for me isn't I'm that's not my vibe.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so I just assume everyone likes me.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's the the perspective that I'm gonna look through.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: Is everyone likes me?
• 44:31
  unknown: Right?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Does everyone like me?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: Of course not.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a ding dong.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh but that's just the glasses I decide to look through for this because I just don't fucking care, right?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: So that's how I'm gonna come at this.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it everything in my life is positive, it's happening for me, not to me.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: I believe that, right?
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: When fucked up things happen, it's like, what am I meant to learn from this?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful for the hard stuff.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my husband had a hard time getting his head around that because a couple years ago I'm you know, bawling and life had just kicked me in the balls that day with a couple of really big things, and he's like, Are you okay?
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Yeah, I'm just so grateful.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, you know, I I like a good kick in the balls.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm just for me, that's where you grow.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's the good shit.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like, bring it on.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_02: Get hit in the mouth by the fucking, you know, by life.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I go, is that all you got?
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's the right attitude to come from, I think.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's essential because life will consistently kick us in the mouth or the balls or whatever.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna kick you and me.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so we need to be resilient and we need to be able to handle that and recognize that it's not gonna go our way very often.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: It'll go our way a couple of times a day, but it's gonna go our way, not our way, like majority.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: I remember reading years ago about how somebody found a pair of Gandhi's glasses and then sold them at an auction for whatever, say$300,000.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's extraordinary, but uh it was what would you pay to have the perspective of Gandhi?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's you're looking through the world through his glasses.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: And Gandhi is a complicated human being as we all are, uh, but it's what you're talking about.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't like what you how how you're viewing the world through the lens, well then get a different pair of glasses.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: Get a different glass.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: You can put on fucking Batman's glasses if you want.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, put on Gandhi's, put on Barack Obama's, whatever you're into.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whoever it is, however you want to see the world, you get to choose.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna tell you about the glasses I look through, and then I want you to think about while I'm doing that, what glasses, how you would describe the glasses you look through.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: So I look through glasses of an eight-year-old because I believe that that's the coolest perspective that I have found in my research.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because an eight-year-old comes from this place of make it make sense, right?
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: If it doesn't make sense, you know, it came to me when I was talking with my nephew and my niece, and we were talking about somebody who was sick, and the and the eight-year-old said, Well, why don't we just put her down, right?
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: And it just it made my soul chuckle a little bit because we'll do that for dogs, but not for humans, right?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: We'll we'll have compassion for a dog where we'll put a dog down.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: But if you're with your 75-year-old grandmother who can't remember your name, who's shitting herself and is a skeleton with her skin melting off of her body, we will drag that out as long as we possibly can because someone's still making money.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: Big pharma's still making money.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll destroy families, we won't talk about it, we'll do all these things, but it's like that's that eight-year-old perspective of coming from just a place of curiosity.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: Why wouldn't we do this?
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: Because I don't want to look at all the shit that's on top of it and all the whatever.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's like just get down to the root.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: Also, an eight-year-old skips through this world from this perspective of wanting to play, being in awe, being in wonder.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my favorite thing to do is to go outside and like look up at the clouds and just be with my own thoughts, right?
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_02: Not on my phone, not paying attention to anything, just that awe and wonder.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I do as much play as I possibly can, whether that's traveling or um, you know, do going out and doing things with my friends or experiencing new adventures.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: So the eight-year-old POV for me, highly recommend.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, tell me about yours.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh that I believe that my future will be better than my past, and uh I think that the universe wants me to get what I want.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: So that's I think two ways that I approach life and and and and and the world.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: So, and that I can uh I can do whatever I want.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_02: Because you can.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because I can.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that great?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_00: Totally awesome.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: When people are like, I can't do that.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, said who?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, who's gonna stop me?
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_02: When when you want to do something, you just fucking do it.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's in one of my probably I don't really think I know any more Ayn Rand quotes, but the question is not who will let us, the question is who will stop us.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's no one above you.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_02: When people have this like ceiling of what they think they can do, I'm like, who do you think is up there like holding that ceiling for you?
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_02: And I had to work through my own shit with that too, because I realized that that's a lot of societal conditioning and other ways that I was raised where it was like men and women are not totally equal because you know, women stay in the house for whatever reason.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's a click down where I was from as far as your value is concerned, and whatever.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's deep-rooted shit that you really have to work on.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: But once you get that out of there and say, like, I can do whatever the fuck I want to, and I walk around this life and I do that.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a good person.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_02: I am always going to do what I can to give back and and and you know, come from that perspective.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm not asking someone permission to do the things that I want.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_02: If it sparks my soul, I'm chasing my highest excitement and let's fucking go.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and I know you come from that exact same perspective, and it just makes me happy.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_02: It makes me feel like I'm getting in trouble when I'm not getting in trouble.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's that like 15-year-old teenage, you know, POV that for me I come from where it's like, I feel like we're doing something bad.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_02: Only because I'm just doing whatever the fuck I want without asking permission.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not breaking any laws.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not, usually, I mean, I I don't ask for permission so much as I ask for forgiveness.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even ask for forgiveness, let's be honest.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: Let's be honest.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: Not much.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: I know, not much.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, this is good.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_02: Where do you see people wasting the most potential today?
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: Money, health, relationships, purpose, or time?
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: All of the above?
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: Probably everything is the right is a good answer to a lot of these.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean Waste.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: Wasted time, wasted potential, wasted relationships.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um of my favorite quotes is the trouble is you think you have time.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's attributed to a lot of different people, but probably true.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I certainly am not saying that I'm a perfect steward of my resources, but I try to get it 80% right.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: I try to eat correctly 80% of the time and exercise 80% right and spend my money 80% right.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: And if you do that, then I think uh you're probably gonna end up pretty close to where you want to be.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um but with time, people don't realize how we spend it.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we I mean, our minds wander, it's been studied about half the time.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, shoot, if you think I don't I can't get enough done, there's not enough hours in the day.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's plenty of time.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: You're just you're just not using yours very well.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_00: You fucked hard.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: I love that I can bring that to your uh to your awareness and to your language.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's a great one.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, for sure.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's a you know, it just it feels very like it feels like sixth grade, you know, like that's what you'd call somebody in sixth grade.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, don't be a fucked hard.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: Or whatever.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I had a fresh mouth in sixth grade.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know how old that is.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that I did.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: Were you a troublemaker as a kid?
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm dying to know that.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, obviously.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I like you, George.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, seriously, like those of us that are out here just doing our own thing.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_02: I you know what I love?
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know why this just came to me, but I'm gonna say it.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: I love the people that when you're driving on the freeway, um, they'll speed, but they won't get over in the HOV lane to like pass somebody.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like you'll break some of the laws, but not some of the laws.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, where's the line?
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't it fun?
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you could just go around that guy.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Those that solid white line, you could just go right around that guy.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: If you're not happy about the guy that's driving 10 miles an hour under the speed limit in the left lane, go around him.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, don't turn it into a whole fucking meltdown.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_02: People meltdown over the silliest things out there.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: We're all we're all living on the knife's edge right now.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh God.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I want to describe something that you know, I talk about this a lot, and I think a lot of people um would benefit from understanding this concept.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_02: So say your life is a container.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: We're just gonna say it's a glass container.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: And you have shit from your childhood and you put that stuff in there because you never processed it, because you didn't know how.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, then you have some more stuff that just was on top of it.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you had some trauma, maybe you had some other stuff, and you just push it in there because especially as men, we weren't, you know, raised to like process your feelings, just push that shit down, push that shit down.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: Then other things happen, and you just keep putting it in there, putting it in there, putting it in there, right?
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_02: You don't know how to process it, you don't know how to fucking have that pressure relief valve that just goes.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_02: So now you have a bunch of people right now, this is the knife's edge, that are running around at like an eight or a nine because their container is so fucking full that all it takes is somebody cutting them off or uh, you know, a misunderstanding about something or whatever, and they fucking lose their minds and then act like toddl having a temper tantrum.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_02: I've never seen anything like it.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm out in the wild watching this happen on a regular basis, going, what are we doing, you guys?
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_02: So this is what this is what sparks me.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: This is what drives me is to, you know, pull in the fucktards so that I can tell them, hey, you realize that's a choice, boss, right?
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, calm down, buddy.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_02: And let me show you how to get rid of that shit, right?
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was with uh a friend and I just I had met him once before.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: We were at Heaven Happy Hour last Friday, and he his his his wife joined us as well, and we were just joking around, we were having a good time, and I just I told her to calm down like 10 times just because I love telling women to calm down because they fucking hate it.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: I just I can't, I just love it so much.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I tell men that too.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, but women really hate it.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_00: Calm down.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you you have some fun things.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_02: I we we had coffee and you said something about I said I said to do something, or I said, yeah, stay out of trouble.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_02: And you said, Don't tell me what to do.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: But from such a fun, like that's perfect.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's all, I mean, come on.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got I've I got the world by the tail.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: But what do I have to be worried about?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like the exact same thing.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really fortunate human being.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you put the work in to get to this point.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why I said fortunate, I'm not lucky.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: Those are very different things.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_02: My my friend Belinda has laughed with me for decades because people always tell me, Oh, you're so lucky.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, luck has nothing to do, yeah, and luck has nothing to do with it.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: Easy Belinda.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: They're not making any more Belinda's either, are they?
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: Factory, the Belinda factory closed.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: Shuddered.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Belinda.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_02: I love it so much.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_02: George, you're troubled.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: Tell tell our listeners how to find you.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_02: So that they tell us about your new book.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_02: Will you tell us that?
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I really love your new book.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited to have be 50% of the way through it.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I just think that you you speak so direct in a way that gives people the power.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it just it feels like power is what you're handing out in a really lovely way.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's I think that's a really uh that's a very nice way to describe it.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I appreciate that.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not it's uh like you, I'm just trying to help people live how they want.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: The only way to live how you want is to know how you want to live.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I don't think that money is money is something that prevents so many people, including myself earlier in life, from having the kind of life that I wanted.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's not appropriate.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, how do we remove money so I can have less friction and just enjoy the times and the family and all the stuff that really does matter?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so instead of allowing money to stand in our way, um, just use it for what it is, which is a tool that helps us get what we want.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: So the book is called Your Money Is Not the Problem You Are, but it also means that you are the solution.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you can buy them out, buy it on Amazon.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've got way too many websites, so probably just throw George Grombacher into your favorite search engine and uh you'll find me.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: Excellent.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you so much for being willing to come on and talk about the fucktards and all the other things.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I meant to ask.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is the second time.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, when do the clothes actually come off here?
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm I'm ready to go.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: I think maybe on the third episode.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: The third time.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: People keep encouraging me to misbehave in lots of ways as it relates to the show.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, you guys don't understand.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: We'll really take it over the the next time I'm on, it'll just be blurred out.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: We'll just be our bodies will just be blurred out, you'll just be able to see our heads.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: Challenge accepted.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_02: Don't don't threaten me with a good time because I swear to God, I'm that girl that's like, oh, you think I won't do a dare for five dollars?
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me I fucking won't, you know.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_00: I look forward to that.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Joy.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: Same time tomorrow, then.
• 57:05
  unknown: Yeah.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_02: All right, everyone.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's a wrap.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: If something from today's conversation hit home, challenged your perspective, or handed you a cheat code uh that you didn't know you needed, we'd love to hear about it.
• 57:16
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• 57:20
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• 57:28
  SPEAKER_02: Until next time, stay curious, keep growing, and don't waste your potential.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see you on the next one.