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"Why This Children's Book Author Is Having the Conversations Parents Don't Know How to Start" · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 5:08
  Brandon
• 5:08
  D.
• 5:09
  Campbell,
• 5:09
  author
• 5:10
  of
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  book
• 5:10
  oh
• 5:11
  Brother,
• 5:11
  My
• 5:11
  Brother.
• 5:12
  Thanks,
• 5:13
  Brandon,
• 5:13
  for
• 5:13
  appearing
• 5:14
  on
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  Adventures
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  Heart
• 5:15
  of
• 5:15
  Children's
• 5:16
  Book
• 5:16
  Authors
• 5:17
  podcast.
• 5:18
  Brandon
• 5:18
  has
• 5:19
  written
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  children's
• 5:20
  book
• 5:21
  with
• 5:21
  just
• 5:22
  a
• 5:22
  little
• 5:22
  different
• 5:23
  twist
• 5:24
  to
• 5:24
  it
• 5:24
  than
• 5:25
  normal.
• 5:25
  I
• 5:26
  loved
• 5:26
  it
• 5:26
  because
• 5:26
  it
• 5:27
  was
• 5:27
  10
• 5:28
  chapters
• 5:29
  and
• 5:29
  we'll
• 5:30
  jump
• 5:30
  more
• 5:30
  into
• 5:30
  that
• 5:31
  because
• 5:31
  it
• 5:31
  was
• 5:31
  very
• 5:32
  engaging.
• 5:33
  Brandon,
• 5:34
  before
• 5:34
  we
• 5:34
  get
• 5:35
  into
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  details
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  your
• 5:36
  book,
• 5:37
  can
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  tell
• 5:37
  us
• 5:38
  what
• 5:38
  being
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  children's
• 5:39
  book
• 5:40
  author
• 5:40
  means
• 5:40
  to
• 5:41
  you?
• 5:42
  Being
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  children's
• 5:43
  book
• 5:43
  author
• 5:44
  means
• 5:45
  ownership,
• 5:47
  ownership
• 5:47
  of
• 5:48
  the
• 5:48
  story,
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  representation
• 5:52
  and
• 5:53
  inspiration
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  to
• 5:55
  children
• 5:56
  in
• 5:57
  ways
• 5:57
  that
• 5:58
  not
• 5:58
  only
• 5:59
  shapes
• 5:59
  their
• 5:59
  mind,
• 6:01
  but
• 6:01
  could
• 6:01
  also
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  shape
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  outcome
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  who
• 6:03
  they
• 6:04
  become
• 6:05
  as
• 6:05
  adults.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:07
  so
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  am
• 6:10
  very
• 6:11
  blessed
• 6:11
  to
• 6:12
  be
• 6:12
  a
• 6:12
  children's
• 6:13
  book
• 6:13
  author.
• 6:14
  It's
• 6:14
  something
• 6:15
  that
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  don't
• 6:15
  take
• 6:16
  lightly
• 6:16
  or
• 6:16
  for
• 6:17
  granted,
• 6:18
  and
• 6:19
  I'm
• 6:19
  just
• 6:20
  honored
• 6:20
  with
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  response
• 6:21
  that
• 6:22
  I've
• 6:22
  been
• 6:23
  receiving
• 6:23
  from
• 6:24
  children,
• 6:24
  but
• 6:25
  most
• 6:25
  importantly,
• 6:26
  parents
• 6:27
  and
• 6:27
  educators.
• 6:28
  Fantastic.
• 6:29
  Tell
• 6:30
  us
• 6:30
  about
• 6:30
  the
• 6:31
  inspiration
• 6:32
  behind
• 6:32
  your
• 6:32
  book.
• 6:34
  The
• 6:34
  inspiration
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  comes
• 6:35
  from
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  my
• 6:37
  own
• 6:37
  childhood
• 6:38
  growing
• 6:38
  up
• 6:39
  in
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  blended
• 6:40
  family,
• 6:41
  being
• 6:42
  raised
• 6:42
  by
• 6:42
  a
• 6:43
  single
• 6:43
  mother
• 6:44
  with
• 6:45
  four
• 6:45
  of
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  siblings.
• 6:46
  We
• 6:47
  had
• 6:48
  three
• 6:49
  different
• 6:49
  dads
• 6:50
  in
• 6:50
  between,
• 6:51
  so
• 6:51
  my
• 6:51
  mom
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  had
• 6:52
  previous
• 6:52
  relationships
• 6:53
  and
• 6:54
  for
• 6:55
  whatever
• 6:55
  reason
• 6:55
  they
• 6:55
  didn't
• 6:56
  work
• 6:56
  out.
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  am
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  fourth
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  five.
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  have
• 7:01
  a
• 7:02
  younger
• 7:02
  brother.
• 7:03
  We
• 7:03
  all
• 7:03
  grew
• 7:03
  up
• 7:03
  in
• 7:03
  the
• 7:04
  same
• 7:04
  house.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:05
  growing
• 7:05
  up,
• 7:06
  you
• 7:06
  weren't
• 7:07
  half
• 7:07
  brothers
• 7:08
  or
• 7:08
  half
• 7:09
  sister,
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  were
• 7:09
  just
• 7:10
  brothers
• 7:10
  and
• 7:10
  sisters.
• 7:11
  I
• 7:11
  just
• 7:12
  remember
• 7:12
  growing
• 7:13
  up
• 7:14
  in
• 7:14
  a
• 7:14
  household.
• 7:15
  What
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  was
• 7:15
  seeing
• 7:16
  around
• 7:16
  me
• 7:18
  from
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  outside
• 7:19
  world
• 7:19
  was
• 7:20
  completely
• 7:20
  different.
• 7:21
  And
• 7:22
  so
• 7:22
  when
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  would
• 7:22
  go
• 7:22
  to
• 7:22
  school,
• 7:23
  I
• 7:24
  felt
• 7:24
  different
• 7:24
  because
• 7:25
  of
• 7:25
  what
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  experienced
• 7:26
  inside
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  home
• 7:28
  looked
• 7:28
  different
• 7:28
  for
• 7:28
  me.
• 7:29
  And
• 7:30
  so
• 7:30
  I
• 7:30
  wanted
• 7:30
  to
• 7:30
  create
• 7:31
  a
• 7:31
  story
• 7:33
  that
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  wish
• 7:33
  that
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  had
• 7:34
  growing
• 7:35
  up
• 7:35
  where
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  can
• 7:36
  see
• 7:36
  characters
• 7:38
  that
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  could
• 7:38
  identify
• 7:39
  with
• 7:39
  that
• 7:40
  had
• 7:40
  same
• 7:40
  family
• 7:41
  structure
• 7:41
  that
• 7:41
  I
• 7:42
  had
• 7:42
  growing
• 7:43
  up.
• 7:44
  But
• 7:44
  then
• 7:44
  also
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  wanted
• 7:45
  to
• 7:46
  shape
• 7:47
  an
• 7:48
  avenue
• 7:48
  or
• 7:48
  a
• 7:49
  platform
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  is
• 7:51
  psychologically
• 7:52
  safe
• 7:52
  for
• 7:53
  children
• 7:54
  and
• 7:54
  parents
• 7:55
  where
• 7:55
  they
• 7:56
  could
• 7:57
  enjoy
• 7:57
  an
• 7:58
  experience
• 7:59
  but
• 7:59
  also
• 8:01
  communicate
• 8:03
  about
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  experience
• 8:04
  about
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  book,
• 8:05
  which
• 8:05
  then
• 8:05
  can
• 8:06
  lead
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  more
• 8:07
  deeper
• 8:08
  conversations,
• 8:09
  deepen
• 8:10
  their
• 8:10
  relationships.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:12
  so
• 8:13
  overarching
• 8:14
  goal
• 8:15
  or
• 8:15
  inspiration
• 8:16
  of
• 8:16
  this
• 8:16
  book
• 8:16
  is
• 8:16
  to
• 8:17
  alleviate
• 8:19
  some
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  effects
• 8:20
  of
• 8:20
  childhood
• 8:21
  trauma.
• 8:22
  One
• 8:23
  of
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  most
• 8:24
  significant
• 8:25
  one
• 8:25
  that
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  experienced
• 8:26
  growing
• 8:26
  up
• 8:27
  was
• 8:28
  neglect
• 8:28
  and
• 8:28
  abandonment,
• 8:30
  which
• 8:30
  then
• 8:31
  can
• 8:31
  lead
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  many
• 8:33
  different
• 8:33
  challenges
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  more
• 8:35
  people
• 8:35
  can
• 8:36
  have.
• 8:36
  When
• 8:37
  we
• 8:37
  talk
• 8:37
  about
• 8:37
  mental
• 8:38
  health
• 8:38
  illnesses,
• 8:39
  it's
• 8:39
  an
• 8:39
  emotional
• 8:40
  illness
• 8:41
  that
• 8:42
  most
• 8:42
  likely
• 8:43
  will
• 8:43
  come
• 8:43
  from
• 8:44
  a
• 8:45
  detachment
• 8:45
  or
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  defect
• 8:47
  in
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  intimacy
• 8:48
  area
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  it
• 8:50
  is
• 8:50
  developed
• 8:50
  between
• 8:51
  caregiver
• 8:51
  and
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  child
• 8:52
  in
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  relationship.
• 8:54
  So
• 8:54
  my
• 8:55
  inspiration
• 8:56
  and
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  can
• 8:56
  identify
• 8:57
  with
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  in
• 8:58
  some
• 8:58
  ways
• 8:59
  because
• 9:00
  even
• 9:00
  though
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  don't
• 9:00
  come
• 9:01
  from
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  blended
• 9:01
  family.
• 9:02
  I'm
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  older
• 9:03
  brother
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  have
• 9:04
  a
• 9:04
  younger
• 9:05
  brother.
• 9:06
  So
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  can
• 9:06
  see
• 9:06
  how
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  can
• 9:07
  identify
• 9:07
  with
• 9:08
  your
• 9:08
  story
• 9:08
  right
• 9:09
  away.
• 9:10
  And
• 9:10
  then
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  other
• 9:10
  thing
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  that
• 9:12
  even
• 9:12
  though
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  was
• 9:14
  fortunate
• 9:14
  that
• 9:15
  my
• 9:15
  parents
• 9:16
  were
• 9:16
  together
• 9:16
  for
• 9:17
  62
• 9:17
  years,
• 9:19
  when
• 9:19
  my
• 9:19
  children
• 9:20
  got
• 9:20
  married,
• 9:21
  they
• 9:22
  went
• 9:22
  through
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  couple
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  different
• 9:24
  relationships
• 9:25
  and
• 9:25
  therefore
• 9:27
  my
• 9:27
  grandchildren
• 9:28
  are
• 9:29
  coming
• 9:29
  from
• 9:29
  a
• 9:29
  blended
• 9:30
  family
• 9:31
  in
• 9:31
  today's
• 9:31
  society,
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  think
• 9:32
  it
• 9:33
  almost
• 9:33
  starts
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  be
• 9:34
  normal.
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  know
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  talked
• 9:36
  when
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  went
• 9:36
  to
• 9:36
  school,
• 9:37
  it
• 9:37
  maybe
• 9:38
  wasn't
• 9:38
  that
• 9:38
  normal,
• 9:39
  but
• 9:39
  I,
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  would
• 9:39
  say
• 9:40
  today
• 9:40
  I'm
• 9:40
  noticing
• 9:41
  it's
• 9:41
  more
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  more
• 9:42
  normal
• 9:42
  that
• 9:43
  kids
• 9:43
  can
• 9:44
  relate
• 9:44
  to
• 9:44
  each
• 9:44
  other
• 9:45
  because
• 9:45
  they're
• 9:45
  coming
• 9:45
  from
• 9:46
  blended
• 9:46
  families.
• 9:47
  Anyone
• 9:47
  coming
• 9:48
  from
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  blended
• 9:48
  family
• 9:49
  can
• 9:49
  definitely,
• 9:50
  when
• 9:50
  they're
• 9:51
  reading
• 9:51
  your
• 9:51
  book.
• 9:52
  There's
• 9:52
  lots
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  great
• 9:53
  stuff
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  here
• 9:54
  and
• 9:54
  we'll
• 9:55
  get
• 9:55
  more
• 9:55
  into
• 9:55
  that.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  what
• 9:56
  I
• 9:57
  found
• 9:57
  out
• 9:57
  that
• 9:57
  was
• 9:57
  interesting
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  your
• 9:58
  point
• 9:58
  is
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  although
• 10:00
  it's
• 10:00
  being
• 10:00
  more
• 10:02
  normalized
• 10:02
  in
• 10:03
  the
• 10:03
  sense,
• 10:03
  but
• 10:04
  it's
• 10:04
  still
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  subculture.
• 10:05
  So
• 10:06
  there's
• 10:06
  still
• 10:06
  far
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  few
• 10:08
  books
• 10:09
  out
• 10:10
  there
• 10:10
  about
• 10:10
  blended
• 10:11
  families
• 10:12
  or
• 10:12
  what
• 10:12
  the
• 10:13
  blended
• 10:13
  family
• 10:13
  may
• 10:14
  look
• 10:14
  like
• 10:14
  to
• 10:15
  me
• 10:15
  and
• 10:15
  so
• 10:15
  many
• 10:16
  others
• 10:16
  who
• 10:17
  grew
• 10:17
  up
• 10:17
  the
• 10:17
  way
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  did,
• 10:18
  that's
• 10:19
  becoming
• 10:19
  more
• 10:19
  normal.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:20
  so
• 10:20
  that's
• 10:21
  why
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  wanted
• 10:21
  to
• 10:22
  provide.
• 10:23
  I
• 10:23
  love
• 10:23
  what
• 10:23
  you've
• 10:24
  done
• 10:24
  because,
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  know,
• 10:25
  when
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  was
• 10:25
  thinking
• 10:25
  about
• 10:26
  my
• 10:26
  oldest
• 10:27
  granddaughter
• 10:28
  and
• 10:29
  her
• 10:30
  mother
• 10:31
  remarried
• 10:32
  and
• 10:32
  so
• 10:32
  she
• 10:32
  has
• 10:33
  a
• 10:33
  sister
• 10:34
  or
• 10:34
  a
• 10:34
  half
• 10:34
  sister,
• 10:35
  but
• 10:35
  she
• 10:35
  thinks
• 10:36
  of
• 10:36
  her
• 10:36
  as
• 10:36
  her
• 10:36
  sister,
• 10:37
  but
• 10:37
  there's
• 10:37
  a,
• 10:38
  there's
• 10:38
  a
• 10:38
  10
• 10:38
  year
• 10:39
  gap
• 10:39
  between
• 10:40
  them.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  then
• 10:43
  my
• 10:43
  oldest
• 10:44
  granddaughter's
• 10:45
  father
• 10:46
  went
• 10:46
  into
• 10:46
  another
• 10:47
  relationship
• 10:48
  and
• 10:49
  they
• 10:49
  just
• 10:50
  had
• 10:50
  a
• 10:50
  daughter.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  so
• 10:51
  now
• 10:51
  there's
• 10:52
  20
• 10:52
  years
• 10:53
  difference
• 10:54
  between
• 10:55
  my
• 10:55
  granddaughter
• 10:56
  and
• 10:57
  her
• 10:57
  sister.
• 10:58
  That's
• 10:58
  a
• 10:58
  whole
• 10:59
  generation.
• 11:00
  It's
• 11:00
  incredible.
• 11:01
  Like
• 11:01
  you
• 11:01
  said,
• 11:01
  Brandon,
• 11:02
  blended
• 11:03
  families,
• 11:03
  there's
• 11:04
  all
• 11:04
  kinds
• 11:04
  of
• 11:05
  stories.
• 11:05
  When
• 11:05
  you
• 11:05
  look
• 11:05
  at
• 11:06
  it
• 11:06
  from
• 11:06
  that
• 11:06
  aspect,
• 11:08
  as
• 11:08
  you
• 11:09
  rolled
• 11:10
  out
• 11:10
  your
• 11:10
  book
• 11:11
  and
• 11:13
  what
• 11:13
  were
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  thinking
• 11:14
  about
• 11:15
  in
• 11:15
  terms
• 11:15
  of
• 11:16
  building
• 11:16
  a
• 11:17
  children's
• 11:18
  book
• 11:18
  business
• 11:19
  plan
• 11:19
  or
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  book
• 11:20
  business
• 11:21
  around
• 11:21
  your
• 11:22
  children's
• 11:22
  book?
• 11:23
  Tell
• 11:23
  us
• 11:23
  about
• 11:24
  that
• 11:24
  process.
• 11:26
  Yes,
• 11:26
  I
• 11:27
  thought
• 11:27
  it
• 11:27
  was
• 11:27
  very
• 11:27
  important
• 11:28
  to
• 11:28
  have
• 11:29
  a
• 11:29
  vision,
• 11:29
  overarching
• 11:30
  vision
• 11:32
  for
• 11:32
  what
• 11:33
  this
• 11:33
  could
• 11:34
  become.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:35
  so
• 11:37
  one
• 11:37
  thing
• 11:37
  that
• 11:37
  I
• 11:38
  really
• 11:38
  decided
• 11:39
  very
• 11:39
  early
• 11:40
  on
• 11:41
  was
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  go,
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  try
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  go
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  more
• 11:45
  traditional
• 11:46
  route,
• 11:47
  a
• 11:47
  book
• 11:48
  publishing,
• 11:49
  because
• 11:50
  as
• 11:51
  someone
• 11:51
  who
• 11:51
  has
• 11:52
  business
• 11:52
  experience,
• 11:54
  as
• 11:54
  an
• 11:54
  entrepreneur,
• 11:55
  but
• 11:55
  what
• 11:55
  I've
• 11:56
  learned
• 11:56
  over
• 11:56
  time
• 11:57
  is
• 11:57
  the
• 11:57
  importance
• 11:58
  of
• 11:58
  relationships.
• 12:00
  It's
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  saying
• 12:01
  goes,
• 12:02
  you
• 12:02
  can
• 12:02
  go
• 12:02
  fast
• 12:03
  by
• 12:03
  yourself
• 12:04
  or
• 12:04
  you
• 12:04
  can
• 12:04
  go
• 12:05
  very
• 12:05
  far
• 12:06
  through
• 12:06
  the
• 12:07
  help
• 12:07
  of
• 12:07
  others.
• 12:08
  And
• 12:09
  so
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  was
• 12:09
  thinking
• 12:10
  more
• 12:10
  big
• 12:10
  picture
• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  So
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  went
• 12:11
  the
• 12:12
  traditional
• 12:13
  route,
• 12:14
  receive
• 12:15
  over
• 12:15
  a
• 12:15
  hundred
• 12:16
  rejections
• 12:16
  from
• 12:17
  agents.
• 12:18
  And
• 12:19
  as
• 12:19
  Tyler
• 12:19
  Perry
• 12:19
  said,
• 12:20
  it's
• 12:20
  good
• 12:20
  when
• 12:20
  you
• 12:21
  get
• 12:21
  rejected
• 12:22
  or
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  doubt
• 12:22
  it
• 12:23
  because
• 12:23
  you
• 12:24
  can
• 12:24
  create
• 12:25
  ownership.
• 12:26
  And
• 12:27
  so
• 12:28
  by
• 12:28
  me
• 12:28
  going
• 12:28
  that
• 12:29
  route
• 12:29
  and
• 12:29
  getting
• 12:29
  all
• 12:29
  the
• 12:30
  notes,
• 12:30
  I
• 12:31
  said,
• 12:31
  this
• 12:31
  is
• 12:31
  my
• 12:31
  story.
• 12:32
  I
• 12:32
  know
• 12:32
  at
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  end
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  day
• 12:33
  I
• 12:33
  can
• 12:33
  do
• 12:34
  self
• 12:34
  publishing
• 12:34
  route,
• 12:35
  but
• 12:35
  I
• 12:36
  really
• 12:36
  wanted
• 12:36
  to
• 12:36
  be
• 12:37
  able
• 12:37
  to
• 12:37
  get
• 12:37
  this
• 12:37
  out
• 12:37
  to
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  masses
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  utilize
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  support
• 12:40
  of
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  publisher
• 12:42
  as
• 12:42
  well.
• 12:43
  So
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  ended
• 12:43
  up
• 12:44
  going
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  independent
• 12:45
  publisher
• 12:46
  route
• 12:47
  and
• 12:47
  got
• 12:48
  picked
• 12:48
  up
• 12:48
  by
• 12:49
  independent
• 12:50
  publisher,
• 12:51
  which
• 12:52
  then
• 12:53
  understanding
• 12:54
  how
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  hybrid
• 12:55
  model
• 12:56
  works.
• 12:57
  Okay.
• 12:57
  You're
• 12:58
  more
• 12:58
  of
• 12:58
  a
• 12:58
  self
• 12:59
  hybrid
• 13:00
  published
• 13:01
  children's
• 13:01
  book
• 13:02
  author,
• 13:02
  is
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  correct?
• 13:03
  Yes,
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  would
• 13:04
  say
• 13:04
  that,
• 13:05
  yes.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:05
  your
• 13:06
  books
• 13:06
  are
• 13:06
  available
• 13:07
  with
• 13:08
  different
• 13:08
  formats
• 13:09
  on
• 13:09
  Amazon.
• 13:10
  You
• 13:11
  have
• 13:11
  an
• 13:11
  ebook,
• 13:12
  you
• 13:12
  have
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  soft
• 13:12
  cover.
• 13:13
  Are
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  distributed
• 13:14
  through
• 13:15
  Ingram
• 13:15
  Sparks
• 13:16
  or
• 13:16
  any
• 13:17
  other
• 13:17
  online
• 13:17
  retailers?
• 13:19
  Yes,
• 13:19
  I
• 13:20
  am.
• 13:20
  And
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  was
• 13:21
  very
• 13:21
  important
• 13:21
  for
• 13:21
  me
• 13:22
  as
• 13:22
  a
• 13:22
  new
• 13:22
  author
• 13:23
  to
• 13:24
  be
• 13:25
  able
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  establish
• 13:26
  that
• 13:27
  type
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  relationship
• 13:28
  with
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  ingramspark
• 13:29
  because
• 13:29
  I
• 13:30
  wanted
• 13:30
  to
• 13:30
  be
• 13:30
  able
• 13:30
  to
• 13:30
  get
• 13:30
  my
• 13:30
  books
• 13:31
  in
• 13:31
  libraries.
• 13:32
  And
• 13:32
  so
• 13:33
  through
• 13:33
  my
• 13:33
  research
• 13:34
  I
• 13:34
  was
• 13:34
  discovering
• 13:35
  how
• 13:36
  much
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  a
• 13:37
  challenge
• 13:37
  it
• 13:37
  is
• 13:38
  for
• 13:39
  libraries
• 13:39
  to
• 13:40
  pick
• 13:40
  up
• 13:40
  your
• 13:40
  book
• 13:41
  or
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  add
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  to
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  collection
• 13:43
  as
• 13:43
  a
• 13:43
  self
• 13:43
  published
• 13:44
  author.
• 13:44
  Not
• 13:45
  saying
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  can't
• 13:45
  do
• 13:45
  it,
• 13:46
  but
• 13:47
  I
• 13:47
  didn't
• 13:47
  want
• 13:47
  to
• 13:48
  have
• 13:48
  that
• 13:48
  barrier.
• 13:49
  Okay,
• 13:50
  we'll
• 13:51
  get
• 13:51
  more
• 13:51
  into
• 13:51
  your
• 13:51
  book
• 13:52
  and
• 13:52
  because
• 13:52
  I
• 13:52
  want
• 13:52
  to
• 13:53
  just
• 13:53
  discuss
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  couple
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  different
• 13:55
  techniques
• 13:55
  that
• 13:56
  I've
• 13:56
  seen
• 13:57
  when
• 13:57
  it
• 13:57
  came
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  the
• 13:58
  publishing
• 13:58
  end
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  it.
• 13:59
  You
• 13:59
  use
• 13:59
  a
• 14:00
  publisher
• 14:00
  called
• 14:02
  Home
• 14:02
  Press.
• 14:02
  Yeah.
• 14:03
  Talk
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  us
• 14:03
  a
• 14:04
  little
• 14:04
  bit
• 14:04
  about
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  journey
• 14:05
  to
• 14:06
  find
• 14:06
  Home
• 14:06
  Press.
• 14:08
  Yes.
• 14:08
  After
• 14:09
  receiving
• 14:09
  well
• 14:10
  over,
• 14:11
  I
• 14:11
  still
• 14:11
  have
• 14:11
  the
• 14:11
  spreadsheet.
• 14:12
  All
• 14:13
  those
• 14:13
  no's
• 14:13
  from
• 14:13
  agents
• 14:14
  or
• 14:15
  they
• 14:15
  just
• 14:15
  ghost
• 14:16
  you.
• 14:16
  And
• 14:16
  so
• 14:17
  after
• 14:17
  receiving
• 14:18
  all
• 14:18
  those
• 14:18
  no's,
• 14:19
  my
• 14:19
  next
• 14:19
  step
• 14:20
  was
• 14:20
  to
• 14:21
  go
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  independent
• 14:22
  press
• 14:22
  route
• 14:22
  to
• 14:23
  query
• 14:24
  them,
• 14:25
  submit
• 14:27
  like
• 14:27
  a
• 14:27
  couple
• 14:27
  chapters
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  my
• 14:28
  book.
• 14:29
  And
• 14:29
  I
• 14:29
  started
• 14:30
  getting
• 14:30
  some
• 14:30
  traction
• 14:31
  there
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  I
• 14:33
  landed
• 14:33
  on
• 14:33
  Home
• 14:34
  Press.
• 14:34
  I
• 14:35
  looked
• 14:36
  up
• 14:36
  Home
• 14:36
  Press
• 14:36
  and
• 14:37
  I
• 14:37
  saw
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  website
• 14:38
  and
• 14:38
  saw
• 14:38
  some
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  books
• 14:39
  and
• 14:39
  I
• 14:40
  noticed
• 14:40
  that
• 14:40
  they
• 14:40
  did
• 14:40
  a
• 14:41
  lot
• 14:41
  in
• 14:41
  the
• 14:41
  areas
• 14:42
  of
• 14:42
  parenting,
• 14:43
  also
• 14:44
  spiritual
• 14:45
  and
• 14:46
  self
• 14:46
  help.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  to
• 14:48
  me
• 14:48
  it's
• 14:48
  like,
• 14:49
  wow,
• 14:49
  that
• 14:49
  is
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  perfect
• 14:51
  type
• 14:51
  of
• 14:52
  publishing
• 14:52
  company
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  align
• 14:55
  this
• 14:55
  book
• 14:55
  with.
• 14:56
  Because
• 14:56
  they
• 14:57
  get
• 14:57
  right.
• 14:58
  Yes.
• 14:59
  And
• 14:59
  so
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  queried
• 15:01
  them
• 15:01
  and
• 15:01
  then
• 15:01
  they
• 15:02
  got
• 15:02
  back
• 15:02
  to
• 15:02
  me.
• 15:03
  And
• 15:04
  this
• 15:04
  is
• 15:04
  what
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  learned
• 15:05
  about
• 15:05
  this.
• 15:05
  I
• 15:06
  learned
• 15:06
  about
• 15:06
  Independent
• 15:07
  Press
• 15:07
  that
• 15:09
  they
• 15:09
  are
• 15:09
  more
• 15:10
  likely
• 15:11
  going
• 15:12
  to
• 15:12
  provide
• 15:12
  the
• 15:13
  publishing
• 15:13
  aspects
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  it
• 15:14
  and
• 15:15
  coaching.
• 15:16
  As
• 15:16
  far
• 15:16
  as
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  marketing,
• 15:17
  that's
• 15:18
  still
• 15:18
  on
• 15:18
  you.
• 15:19
  Absolutely.
• 15:20
  And
• 15:20
  it's
• 15:20
  interesting,
• 15:21
  I
• 15:21
  love
• 15:21
  your
• 15:22
  insights
• 15:22
  because
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  was
• 15:23
  talking
• 15:24
  to
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  children's
• 15:25
  book
• 15:25
  author.
• 15:25
  And
• 15:26
  she.
• 15:27
  It
• 15:27
  took
• 15:28
  her
• 15:28
  a
• 15:28
  while
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  bring
• 15:29
  her
• 15:30
  children's
• 15:30
  book
• 15:30
  to
• 15:31
  market.
• 15:31
  And
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  said,
• 15:32
  what
• 15:32
  was
• 15:32
  your
• 15:32
  biggest
• 15:32
  challenge?
• 15:33
  And
• 15:33
  I'm
• 15:33
  going
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  talk
• 15:33
  to
• 15:34
  you
• 15:34
  about
• 15:34
  that
• 15:34
  in
• 15:34
  a
• 15:34
  second.
• 15:35
  And
• 15:35
  she
• 15:35
  said,
• 15:35
  you
• 15:36
  know
• 15:36
  what,
• 15:36
  Rick,
• 15:37
  my
• 15:37
  problem
• 15:38
  in
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  beginning
• 15:39
  is
• 15:39
  I
• 15:40
  didn't
• 15:40
  recognize
• 15:41
  that
• 15:42
  each
• 15:42
  publisher
• 15:43
  specialized
• 15:44
  in
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  different
• 15:46
  genres.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:47
  if
• 15:47
  I
• 15:47
  would
• 15:48
  have
• 15:48
  noticed
• 15:48
  that
• 15:49
  then
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  would
• 15:50
  have
• 15:51
  drilled
• 15:51
  it
• 15:52
  down
• 15:52
  more
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  I
• 15:53
  wouldn't
• 15:53
  have
• 15:53
  gotten
• 15:53
  as
• 15:53
  many
• 15:54
  rejections
• 15:55
  because
• 15:55
  she
• 15:55
  said
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  was
• 15:56
  sending
• 15:56
  my
• 15:56
  books
• 15:57
  to
• 15:59
  companies
• 15:59
  that
• 16:00
  weren't
• 16:00
  even
• 16:00
  in
• 16:00
  the
• 16:01
  children's
• 16:01
  books
• 16:01
  genre.
• 16:02
  So
• 16:03
  what
• 16:03
  you
• 16:03
  did
• 16:04
  was
• 16:04
  fantastic.
• 16:05
  What
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  your
• 16:06
  biggest
• 16:06
  publishing
• 16:07
  challenge
• 16:07
  or
• 16:08
  frustration?
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  think
• 16:10
  for
• 16:10
  me
• 16:10
  it
• 16:10
  was
• 16:10
  just
• 16:11
  life.
• 16:12
  Life
• 16:13
  had
• 16:13
  happened
• 16:14
  leading
• 16:15
  up
• 16:15
  to
• 16:16
  really
• 16:16
  me
• 16:16
  even
• 16:16
  completing
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  book.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  was
• 16:18
  in
• 16:18
  transition
• 16:19
  far
• 16:19
  as
• 16:19
  my
• 16:20
  career
• 16:20
  go
• 16:21
  and
• 16:22
  at
• 16:23
  one
• 16:23
  point
• 16:23
  got
• 16:24
  laid
• 16:24
  off
• 16:24
  from
• 16:24
  my
• 16:25
  job.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:27
  after
• 16:29
  really
• 16:30
  doing
• 16:30
  a
• 16:30
  lot
• 16:30
  of
• 16:30
  self
• 16:30
  discovery,
• 16:32
  that's
• 16:32
  what
• 16:32
  led
• 16:32
  me
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  say
• 16:33
  I'm
• 16:33
  going
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  write
• 16:33
  this
• 16:34
  book
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  finish
• 16:34
  this
• 16:34
  book
• 16:35
  that's
• 16:35
  been
• 16:35
  on
• 16:35
  my
• 16:35
  heart
• 16:36
  so
• 16:36
  long.
• 16:37
  You
• 16:37
  going
• 16:38
  through,
• 16:38
  you're
• 16:38
  hearing
• 16:39
  all
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  no's.
• 16:39
  I
• 16:40
  heard
• 16:40
  like
• 16:40
  I've
• 16:40
  heard
• 16:41
  more
• 16:41
  no's
• 16:42
  over
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  last
• 16:43
  couple
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  years
• 16:43
  than
• 16:43
  I've
• 16:44
  ever
• 16:44
  heard
• 16:44
  in
• 16:44
  my
• 16:44
  entire
• 16:45
  life.
• 16:46
  And
• 16:46
  you're
• 16:46
  getting
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  no's
• 16:47
  from
• 16:47
  some
• 16:48
  employers
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  work
• 16:49
  with
• 16:50
  you
• 16:50
  full
• 16:50
  time
• 16:51
  as
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  leader,
• 16:52
  economic
• 16:53
  development
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  business.
• 16:55
  Then
• 16:55
  I'm
• 16:56
  getting
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  no's
• 16:57
  from.
• 16:58
  Then
• 16:59
  I'm
• 16:59
  getting
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  nos
• 17:00
  from
• 17:00
  agents
• 17:01
  as
• 17:01
  well
• 17:02
  too.
• 17:03
  And
• 17:03
  it
• 17:03
  was
• 17:04
  just
• 17:04
  so
• 17:04
  many
• 17:04
  different
• 17:05
  adjustments
• 17:06
  that
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  was
• 17:06
  going
• 17:07
  through.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:08
  just
• 17:08
  from
• 17:08
  a
• 17:08
  perspective
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  just
• 17:10
  true
• 17:10
  transparency,
• 17:12
  I
• 17:12
  was
• 17:12
  going
• 17:12
  through
• 17:13
  some
• 17:13
  adjustment,
• 17:15
  depression
• 17:16
  and
• 17:16
  anxieties
• 17:17
  as
• 17:18
  well
• 17:18
  too.
• 17:19
  Got
• 17:20
  to
• 17:20
  a
• 17:20
  point
• 17:20
  where
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  ended
• 17:22
  up
• 17:22
  starting
• 17:22
  my
• 17:22
  own
• 17:22
  company.
• 17:23
  Got
• 17:23
  a
• 17:24
  good
• 17:24
  contract
• 17:24
  with
• 17:25
  my
• 17:25
  four
• 17:25
  Eye
• 17:25
  Solutions
• 17:26
  company.
• 17:27
  Then
• 17:27
  on
• 17:27
  top
• 17:27
  of
• 17:28
  that,
• 17:28
  my
• 17:28
  family
• 17:29
  and
• 17:29
  I,
• 17:29
  we
• 17:29
  were
• 17:29
  relocating.
• 17:31
  And
• 17:31
  so
• 17:32
  it
• 17:32
  was
• 17:32
  just
• 17:32
  a
• 17:32
  lot
• 17:32
  of
• 17:33
  work
• 17:33
  and
• 17:33
  a
• 17:33
  lot
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  things
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  were
• 17:34
  happening
• 17:35
  at
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  time.
• 17:35
  So
• 17:36
  many
• 17:36
  ups
• 17:37
  and
• 17:37
  downs
• 17:38
  emotionally,
• 17:39
  spiritually.
• 17:40
  And
• 17:40
  then
• 17:40
  when
• 17:41
  you
• 17:41
  finally
• 17:41
  get
• 17:41
  the
• 17:42
  publishing
• 17:43
  deal
• 17:43
  and
• 17:44
  negotiate
• 17:44
  it
• 17:44
  and
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  made
• 17:45
  sure
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  include
• 17:46
  my
• 17:46
  imprint,
• 17:47
  gosh
• 17:48
  G
• 17:48
  O
• 17:48
  S
• 17:49
  H
• 17:49
  getting
• 17:49
  our
• 17:49
  Stories
• 17:50
  Heard
• 17:51
  imprint
• 17:52
  so
• 17:52
  that
• 17:53
  possibly
• 17:53
  it
• 17:54
  could
• 17:54
  become
• 17:54
  something
• 17:54
  more
• 17:55
  and
• 17:55
  bigger
• 17:55
  later
• 17:56
  on.
• 17:56
  But
• 17:57
  there
• 17:58
  was
• 17:58
  still
• 17:58
  more
• 17:58
  work
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  do.
• 18:00
  So
• 18:00
  it
• 18:01
  wasn't
• 18:01
  like,
• 18:01
  okay,
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  got
• 18:02
  a
• 18:02
  publisher,
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  got
• 18:03
  a
• 18:04
  deal,
• 18:04
  now
• 18:05
  you
• 18:05
  have
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  get
• 18:07
  an
• 18:07
  illustrator,
• 18:08
  then
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  have
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  get
• 18:10
  a
• 18:10
  marketing
• 18:10
  plan
• 18:11
  execute
• 18:11
  on
• 18:11
  that
• 18:12
  marketing
• 18:12
  plan.
• 18:13
  What
• 18:13
  I
• 18:13
  didn't
• 18:14
  know,
• 18:15
  I'm
• 18:16
  more
• 18:16
  of
• 18:16
  a,
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  have
• 18:17
  that
• 18:17
  guerrilla
• 18:17
  marketing
• 18:18
  background
• 18:18
  which
• 18:18
  I
• 18:19
  can
• 18:19
  make
• 18:19
  things
• 18:19
  happen
• 18:20
  in
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  month
• 18:20
  or
• 18:20
  two
• 18:21
  months.
• 18:21
  But
• 18:21
  in
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  publishing
• 18:22
  world,
• 18:23
  I
• 18:24
  needed
• 18:24
  to
• 18:25
  get
• 18:25
  Runway
• 18:26
  of
• 18:26
  about
• 18:28
  four
• 18:28
  to
• 18:29
  six
• 18:29
  months.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:31
  this
• 18:31
  is
• 18:31
  specifically
• 18:32
  focused
• 18:33
  on
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  book
• 18:34
  outside
• 18:34
  of
• 18:34
  just
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  Brandon
• 18:35
  D.
• 18:35
  Campbell,
• 18:36
  which
• 18:36
  I
• 18:37
  really
• 18:37
  started
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  really
• 18:38
  focus
• 18:38
  and
• 18:38
  build
• 18:39
  a
• 18:39
  year
• 18:40
  prior
• 18:40
  to
• 18:41
  getting
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  publishing
• 18:42
  deal.
• 18:44
  So
• 18:44
  that's
• 18:44
  what
• 18:44
  it
• 18:44
  is.
• 18:45
  And
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  realize
• 18:46
  that
• 18:46
  you're
• 18:47
  always
• 18:47
  working
• 18:48
  and
• 18:49
  you.
• 18:49
  It's
• 18:49
  like
• 18:49
  it's
• 18:50
  something
• 18:50
  you
• 18:50
  have
• 18:50
  to
• 18:51
  be
• 18:51
  all
• 18:51
  in
• 18:53
  all
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  time.
• 18:54
  He
• 18:54
  is
• 18:54
  like
• 18:54
  a
• 18:55
  baby,
• 18:55
  a
• 18:55
  newborn
• 18:56
  baby.
• 18:56
  And
• 18:57
  I
• 18:57
  know
• 18:57
  because
• 18:57
  I
• 18:57
  have
• 18:58
  three
• 18:58
  kids
• 18:58
  and
• 18:58
  they're
• 18:59
  all.
• 18:59
  They're
• 19:00
  all
• 19:00
  pretty
• 19:00
  young.
• 19:01
  And
• 19:01
  so
• 19:02
  this
• 19:02
  is
• 19:02
  actually
• 19:03
  has
• 19:03
  been
• 19:04
  our
• 19:04
  fifth
• 19:05
  child
• 19:06
  after
• 19:06
  our
• 19:07
  dog.
• 19:08
  I'm
• 19:08
  glad
• 19:09
  you
• 19:09
  said
• 19:09
  that,
• 19:09
  Brandon,
• 19:10
  because
• 19:10
  it's
• 19:10
  like
• 19:11
  you're
• 19:11
  talking
• 19:12
  about
• 19:12
  when
• 19:12
  you
• 19:12
  bring
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  child,
• 19:13
  you
• 19:14
  have
• 19:14
  this
• 19:14
  baby
• 19:14
  and
• 19:15
  you
• 19:15
  bring
• 19:15
  this
• 19:15
  child
• 19:15
  into
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  world.
• 19:16
  But
• 19:17
  at
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  end
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  day,
• 19:19
  it's
• 19:19
  not
• 19:19
  like
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  can
• 19:20
  say,
• 19:20
  oh,
• 19:21
  I've
• 19:21
  had
• 19:21
  this
• 19:21
  baby
• 19:22
  for
• 19:22
  a
• 19:22
  week,
• 19:23
  I
• 19:23
  don't
• 19:23
  want
• 19:23
  it
• 19:24
  anymore.
• 19:25
  Okay,
• 19:26
  it
• 19:26
  doesn't
• 19:27
  work
• 19:27
  that
• 19:27
  way.
• 19:27
  It's
• 19:28
  like
• 19:28
  your
• 19:28
  book.
• 19:28
  It's
• 19:29
  a
• 19:29
  lifetime
• 19:30
  commitment.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:32
  I'm
• 19:32
  glad
• 19:32
  you
• 19:32
  talked
• 19:33
  about
• 19:33
  your
• 19:33
  struggles
• 19:34
  because
• 19:35
  any
• 19:35
  of
• 19:35
  us,
• 19:36
  including
• 19:36
  myself,
• 19:37
  I've
• 19:37
  published
• 19:38
  two
• 19:38
  independent
• 19:39
  books
• 19:39
  with
• 19:39
  my
• 19:39
  grandchildren.
• 19:41
  And
• 19:41
  you
• 19:42
  know
• 19:42
  what?
• 19:42
  You're
• 19:43
  constantly
• 19:44
  having
• 19:44
  to
• 19:44
  promote
• 19:45
  it
• 19:45
  and
• 19:45
  find
• 19:46
  ways
• 19:46
  to.
• 19:47
  To
• 19:47
  build
• 19:47
  the
• 19:47
  business.
• 19:48
  Like
• 19:48
  you
• 19:48
  said,
• 19:49
  it
• 19:49
  comes
• 19:49
  back
• 19:49
  onto
• 19:50
  your
• 19:50
  shoulders.
• 19:51
  It's
• 19:51
  your
• 19:51
  responsibility.
• 19:53
  When
• 19:53
  you
• 19:53
  talked
• 19:54
  earlier,
• 19:55
  just
• 19:55
  a
• 19:55
  couple
• 19:55
  moments
• 19:56
  ago,
• 19:56
  you
• 19:56
  talked
• 19:57
  about
• 19:57
  finding
• 19:57
  an
• 19:58
  illustrator.
• 19:59
  Talk
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  us
• 19:59
  about
• 20:00
  how
• 20:01
  you
• 20:01
  went
• 20:01
  about
• 20:01
  finding
• 20:02
  your
• 20:02
  illustrator.
• 20:03
  The
• 20:04
  first
• 20:04
  step.
• 20:05
  Did
• 20:05
  a
• 20:06
  post
• 20:06
  in
• 20:06
  one
• 20:06
  of
• 20:06
  those
• 20:07
  groups
• 20:07
  on
• 20:08
  Facebook,
• 20:08
  say,
• 20:09
  hey,
• 20:10
  children's
• 20:10
  author,
• 20:10
  looking
• 20:11
  for
• 20:11
  an
• 20:11
  illustrator.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  braced
• 20:13
  myself
• 20:14
  first
• 20:14
  because
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  knew
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  was
• 20:15
  probably
• 20:16
  going
• 20:16
  to
• 20:16
  be
• 20:16
  inundated
• 20:16
  with
• 20:17
  a
• 20:17
  bunch
• 20:17
  of
• 20:18
  illustrators,
• 20:19
  wannabe
• 20:20
  illustrators,
• 20:21
  AI
• 20:22
  bots
• 20:23
  as
• 20:23
  well,
• 20:24
  to
• 20:25
  salespeople.
• 20:27
  That's
• 20:28
  where
• 20:28
  I
• 20:28
  started.
• 20:29
  Then
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  reached
• 20:30
  back
• 20:30
  into
• 20:30
  my
• 20:31
  network
• 20:32
  at
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  universities
• 20:34
  Ole
• 20:34
  Miss,
• 20:35
  also
• 20:35
  University
• 20:36
  of
• 20:36
  Iowa,
• 20:37
  reach
• 20:37
  out,
• 20:38
  see
• 20:38
  if
• 20:38
  they
• 20:38
  have
• 20:38
  any
• 20:38
  illustrators
• 20:40
  and
• 20:40
  local
• 20:41
  people
• 20:41
  as
• 20:42
  well.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:43
  so
• 20:43
  then
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  just
• 20:44
  started
• 20:44
  vetting
• 20:44
  them,
• 20:45
  started
• 20:45
  doing
• 20:46
  interviews.
• 20:47
  After
• 20:47
  interviews,
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  learned
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  some
• 20:49
  programs
• 20:51
  or
• 20:51
  organization
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  could
• 20:52
  produce,
• 20:53
  produce
• 20:54
  for
• 20:54
  you,
• 20:54
  very
• 20:55
  probably
• 20:55
  cheaply
• 20:56
  or
• 20:56
  cost
• 20:57
  effectively.
• 20:59
  But
• 20:59
  what
• 21:00
  was
• 21:00
  important
• 21:00
  to
• 21:00
  me
• 21:01
  was
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  wanted
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  have
• 21:03
  a
• 21:03
  relationship
• 21:04
  with
• 21:04
  my
• 21:04
  illustrator.
• 21:05
  This
• 21:05
  was
• 21:05
  my
• 21:05
  bait.
• 21:06
  This
• 21:06
  is
• 21:06
  my
• 21:07
  baby.
• 21:07
  Really,
• 21:08
  outside
• 21:08
  of
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  publisher,
• 21:09
  this
• 21:10
  is
• 21:10
  my
• 21:10
  baby
• 21:10
  who
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  am
• 21:11
  now
• 21:11
  about
• 21:12
  to
• 21:12
  send
• 21:12
  to
• 21:13
  a
• 21:13
  daycare,
• 21:15
  right?
• 21:15
  Absolutely.
• 21:16
  This
• 21:16
  daycare.
• 21:17
  This
• 21:17
  person
• 21:18
  who's
• 21:18
  about
• 21:18
  to
• 21:18
  experience
• 21:19
  my
• 21:19
  baby
• 21:20
  for
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  first
• 21:20
  time,
• 21:21
  this
• 21:21
  infant.
• 21:22
  And
• 21:23
  so
• 21:23
  I
• 21:23
  wanted
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  make
• 21:23
  sure
• 21:23
  this
• 21:24
  was
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  one
• 21:24
  who
• 21:25
  was
• 21:25
  aligned
• 21:25
  with
• 21:25
  my
• 21:26
  vision,
• 21:27
  my.
• 21:27
  My
• 21:28
  Passion
• 21:28
  for
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  work
• 21:29
  and
• 21:29
  didn't
• 21:29
  just
• 21:30
  see
• 21:30
  this
• 21:30
  as
• 21:31
  a
• 21:31
  check.
• 21:32
  And
• 21:32
  like
• 21:32
  I
• 21:33
  was
• 21:33
  getting
• 21:33
  exorbitant
• 21:33
  amount
• 21:34
  of
• 21:34
  prices
• 21:35
  even
• 21:35
  to
• 21:35
  my.
• 21:35
  You
• 21:36
  go
• 21:36
  from
• 21:36
  $99
• 21:37
  to
• 21:38
  $10,000.
• 21:39
  And
• 21:40
  I'm
• 21:40
  like,
• 21:40
  all
• 21:40
  I
• 21:40
  want
• 21:40
  is
• 21:41
  10
• 21:41
  illustrations.
• 21:42
  10
• 21:42
  illustrations
• 21:44
  and.
• 21:45
  And
• 21:45
  I'm
• 21:45
  not
• 21:45
  complaining,
• 21:46
  but
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  calls
• 21:47
  that
• 21:47
  I
• 21:48
  was
• 21:48
  getting
• 21:48
  repeatedly,
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  sales
• 21:50
  call,
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  emails.
• 21:51
  But
• 21:51
  I
• 21:52
  landed
• 21:52
  on
• 21:53
  Sanjay
• 21:54
  Sickup
• 21:55
  who
• 21:55
  is
• 21:56
  based
• 21:56
  in
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  Middle
• 21:57
  east
• 21:58
  and
• 21:59
  she
• 22:00
  is
• 22:00
  someone
• 22:01
  who
• 22:01
  actually
• 22:02
  was
• 22:02
  the
• 22:02
  first
• 22:02
  person
• 22:02
  who
• 22:03
  reached
• 22:03
  out
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  me
• 22:04
  and
• 22:06
  sent
• 22:06
  me
• 22:06
  samples
• 22:07
  because
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  was
• 22:07
  very
• 22:07
  specific.
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  wanted
• 22:08
  more
• 22:09
  realistic
• 22:09
  type
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  illustrations.
• 22:11
  Yes,
• 22:12
  she
• 22:12
  was
• 22:12
  consistent
• 22:13
  and
• 22:13
  she
• 22:14
  stayed
• 22:14
  in
• 22:14
  touch
• 22:15
  while
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  was
• 22:15
  interviewing
• 22:16
  so
• 22:16
  many
• 22:17
  other
• 22:17
  people.
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  wouldn't
• 22:18
  do
• 22:18
  my
• 22:18
  due
• 22:19
  diligence,
• 22:19
  but
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  knew
• 22:20
  she
• 22:20
  was
• 22:20
  the
• 22:21
  right
• 22:21
  person
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  go
• 22:22
  with.
• 22:22
  She
• 22:22
  was
• 22:22
  hungry,
• 22:23
  she
• 22:24
  was
• 22:24
  very
• 22:24
  professional
• 22:26
  and
• 22:26
  she
• 22:27
  believed
• 22:27
  in
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  project
• 22:28
  and
• 22:28
  she
• 22:28
  knew
• 22:29
  that
• 22:29
  this
• 22:29
  was
• 22:29
  not
• 22:29
  just
• 22:30
  a
• 22:30
  gig,
• 22:32
  it
• 22:32
  was
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  90
• 22:32
  day
• 22:33
  process
• 22:33
  of
• 22:33
  actually
• 22:34
  finishing.
• 22:35
  If
• 22:35
  you
• 22:36
  listen
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  our
• 22:36
  podcast
• 22:37
  show
• 22:37
  how
• 22:38
  people
• 22:38
  find
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  realistrators,
• 22:39
  the
• 22:40
  dynamics
• 22:40
  are
• 22:41
  always
• 22:41
  so
• 22:41
  different
• 22:42
  and
• 22:43
  so
• 22:43
  how
• 22:43
  you
• 22:44
  describe
• 22:44
  it.
• 22:44
  But
• 22:44
  the
• 22:45
  important
• 22:45
  message
• 22:46
  here
• 22:46
  too
• 22:46
  is
• 22:47
  that
• 22:47
  even
• 22:48
  in
• 22:48
  most
• 22:49
  cases,
• 22:49
  whether
• 22:50
  you
• 22:50
  go
• 22:50
  the
• 22:51
  hybrid
• 22:52
  publishing
• 22:53
  route,
• 22:53
  which
• 22:53
  you've
• 22:53
  done,
• 22:54
  or
• 22:55
  even
• 22:55
  as
• 22:55
  an
• 22:55
  independent
• 22:56
  publisher
• 22:57
  where
• 22:57
  you
• 22:58
  are
• 22:58
  all
• 22:58
  in
• 22:59
  on
• 22:59
  your
• 22:59
  own,
• 23:00
  you
• 23:01
  still
• 23:01
  have
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  find
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  illustrator.
• 23:02
  And
• 23:03
  how
• 23:03
  you
• 23:03
  find
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  illustrator
• 23:05
  definitely
• 23:06
  takes
• 23:06
  you
• 23:06
  down
• 23:06
  different
• 23:07
  roads.
• 23:07
  I
• 23:08
  know,
• 23:08
  even
• 23:08
  for
• 23:08
  us,
• 23:09
  I
• 23:09
  tried
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  find
• 23:09
  a
• 23:10
  local
• 23:10
  illustrator
• 23:11
  who
• 23:12
  knew
• 23:12
  our
• 23:12
  area
• 23:13
  and
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  couldn't
• 23:14
  find
• 23:14
  one.
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  ended
• 23:15
  up
• 23:15
  going
• 23:16
  on
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  Internet
• 23:17
  and
• 23:17
  I
• 23:18
  found
• 23:18
  somebody's
• 23:18
  style
• 23:19
  I
• 23:19
  liked
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  I
• 23:20
  sent
• 23:20
  them
• 23:21
  a
• 23:21
  message
• 23:22
  and
• 23:22
  they're
• 23:22
  England
• 23:23
  and
• 23:24
  we
• 23:24
  ended
• 23:24
  up
• 23:24
  with
• 23:24
  an
• 23:25
  illustrator
• 23:25
  in
• 23:26
  England.
• 23:26
  So
• 23:26
  I
• 23:27
  talked
• 23:27
  to
• 23:28
  so
• 23:28
  many
• 23:28
  children's
• 23:29
  book
• 23:29
  authors
• 23:30
  whose
• 23:31
  illustrators
• 23:31
  are
• 23:32
  in
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  different
• 23:32
  country.
• 23:33
  It's
• 23:33
  pretty
• 23:33
  neat
• 23:34
  though,
• 23:34
  in
• 23:35
  today's
• 23:35
  world
• 23:35
  that
• 23:36
  we
• 23:36
  have
• 23:36
  this
• 23:36
  technology
• 23:37
  that
• 23:38
  allows
• 23:38
  us
• 23:38
  to
• 23:39
  do
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  and
• 23:40
  you
• 23:40
  went
• 23:40
  on
• 23:40
  this
• 23:41
  journey
• 23:42
  and
• 23:42
  at
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  end
• 23:42
  of
• 23:43
  the
• 23:43
  day
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  came
• 23:43
  up
• 23:44
  with
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  illustrator
• 23:45
  that
• 23:45
  felt
• 23:45
  right
• 23:45
  for
• 23:46
  you.
• 23:46
  Yes,
• 23:46
  and
• 23:47
  I
• 23:47
  went
• 23:47
  through
• 23:48
  Re
• 23:48
  See
• 23:49
  Fiverr
• 23:50
  as
• 23:50
  well
• 23:51
  too
• 23:51
  and
• 23:51
  found
• 23:51
  illustrators
• 23:52
  to
• 23:52
  interview
• 23:53
  them.
• 23:54
  But
• 23:54
  in
• 23:54
  business
• 23:55
  I
• 23:55
  learned
• 23:55
  a
• 23:55
  very
• 23:56
  valuable
• 23:56
  lesson,
• 23:57
  and
• 23:57
  one
• 23:58
  is
• 23:58
  you
• 23:59
  don't
• 23:59
  do
• 23:59
  business
• 23:59
  with
• 24:00
  someone
• 24:00
  that
• 24:01
  seems
• 24:01
  desperate.
• 24:02
  Whether
• 24:03
  it
• 24:03
  may
• 24:03
  be
• 24:04
  money
• 24:04
  or
• 24:04
  they
• 24:05
  seem
• 24:05
  anxious
• 24:06
  about
• 24:06
  the
• 24:07
  project
• 24:07
  or.
• 24:08
  But
• 24:08
  in
• 24:08
  also
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  watch
• 24:11
  what
• 24:11
  you.
• 24:11
  What
• 24:12
  they
• 24:12
  show
• 24:12
  you,
• 24:12
  you
• 24:13
  believe
• 24:13
  who
• 24:13
  they
• 24:13
  are.
• 24:14
  Right.
• 24:14
  So
• 24:15
  if
• 24:15
  I
• 24:15
  say
• 24:16
  provide
• 24:17
  me
• 24:17
  with
• 24:17
  a
• 24:17
  sample
• 24:18
  and
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  say,
• 24:18
  yes,
• 24:19
  and
• 24:19
  they
• 24:19
  say,
• 24:20
  I'm
• 24:20
  going
• 24:20
  to
• 24:20
  provide
• 24:20
  you
• 24:21
  with
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  sample
• 24:21
  on
• 24:21
  this
• 24:22
  day,
• 24:23
  you've
• 24:23
  set
• 24:23
  the
• 24:23
  deadline.
• 24:24
  But
• 24:25
  then
• 24:25
  when
• 24:25
  it
• 24:26
  comes
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  day
• 24:27
  you
• 24:28
  don't
• 24:28
  deliver
• 24:29
  and
• 24:29
  I'm
• 24:29
  asking
• 24:30
  you
• 24:30
  questions
• 24:31
  and
• 24:31
  you're
• 24:31
  not
• 24:32
  communicating
• 24:32
  or
• 24:32
  you're
• 24:33
  not
• 24:33
  as
• 24:33
  communicative
• 24:34
  as
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  were
• 24:35
  in
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  beginning.
• 24:36
  That's
• 24:36
  a
• 24:36
  sign
• 24:36
  for
• 24:37
  me
• 24:37
  not
• 24:37
  to
• 24:37
  do
• 24:37
  business
• 24:38
  with
• 24:38
  you.
• 24:39
  Good
• 24:39
  point.
• 24:39
  So
• 24:40
  that,
• 24:40
  that's
• 24:40
  where
• 24:40
  my
• 24:40
  entrepreneurship
• 24:41
  and
• 24:41
  my
• 24:41
  business
• 24:42
  background
• 24:42
  and
• 24:43
  acumen
• 24:43
  really
• 24:43
  helped
• 24:44
  me
• 24:44
  in
• 24:44
  the
• 24:45
  process
• 24:45
  getting
• 24:46
  illustrator.
• 24:47
  And
• 24:47
  to
• 24:47
  Brandon's
• 24:48
  point,
• 24:48
  there
• 24:49
  are
• 24:49
  so
• 24:49
  many
• 24:49
  illustrators
• 24:50
  out
• 24:50
  there
• 24:50
  that
• 24:52
  as
• 24:52
  Brandon
• 24:53
  saying,
• 24:53
  if
• 24:54
  you
• 24:54
  do
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  proper
• 24:55
  interviews
• 24:56
  and
• 24:57
  set
• 24:58
  deadlines,
• 24:59
  you
• 24:59
  should
• 25:00
  be
• 25:00
  able
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  end
• 25:00
  up
• 25:01
  with
• 25:01
  an
• 25:01
  illustrator
• 25:02
  that
• 25:02
  works
• 25:02
  for
• 25:02
  you.
• 25:03
  So
• 25:03
  thank
• 25:03
  you
• 25:04
  for
• 25:04
  sharing
• 25:04
  that.
• 25:05
  And
• 25:05
  I
• 25:06
  want
• 25:06
  to
• 25:06
  talk
• 25:06
  to
• 25:06
  you
• 25:06
  about
• 25:07
  your
• 25:07
  website
• 25:08
  because
• 25:09
  you're
• 25:09
  coming
• 25:09
  at
• 25:10
  your
• 25:10
  website
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  little
• 25:11
  bit
• 25:11
  different
• 25:11
  than
• 25:12
  most
• 25:13
  children's
• 25:13
  book
• 25:13
  authors
• 25:14
  that
• 25:14
  I've
• 25:14
  talked
• 25:14
  to.
• 25:15
  When
• 25:16
  I
• 25:16
  visited
• 25:16
  your
• 25:17
  website,
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  noticed
• 25:19
  that
• 25:19
  your
• 25:19
  podcast
• 25:20
  show
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  Brandon
• 25:22
  has
• 25:22
  a
• 25:23
  video
• 25:23
  podcast
• 25:24
  show,
• 25:24
  which
• 25:25
  is
• 25:25
  fantastic.
• 25:27
  So
• 25:27
  tell
• 25:27
  us
• 25:28
  about
• 25:29
  why
• 25:29
  you
• 25:30
  took
• 25:30
  that
• 25:30
  approach
• 25:31
  where
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  video
• 25:32
  podcast
• 25:32
  show
• 25:32
  takes
• 25:33
  on
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  predominant
• 25:35
  role.
• 25:35
  When
• 25:35
  you
• 25:36
  go
• 25:36
  to
• 25:36
  your
• 25:36
  website,
• 25:37
  you've
• 25:37
  got
• 25:37
  a
• 25:38
  video
• 25:38
  podcast
• 25:39
  show
• 25:40
  and
• 25:40
  then
• 25:41
  give
• 25:41
  us
• 25:41
  some
• 25:41
  insight
• 25:42
  how
• 25:42
  you
• 25:43
  are
• 25:43
  using
• 25:43
  your
• 25:44
  podcast
• 25:44
  show
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  build
• 25:46
  your
• 25:47
  children's
• 25:47
  book
• 25:47
  business.
• 25:49
  Yeah,
• 25:50
  so
• 25:51
  what
• 25:51
  I'm
• 25:52
  going
• 25:52
  all
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  way
• 25:52
  back
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  beginning
• 25:54
  of
• 25:54
  2024
• 25:55
  when
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  said,
• 25:56
  hey,
• 25:56
  I'm
• 25:57
  get
• 25:57
  this
• 25:57
  book
• 25:58
  published.
• 25:59
  I
• 25:59
  knew
• 25:59
  that
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  needed
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  start
• 26:01
  rebranding
• 26:02
  myself
• 26:04
  from
• 26:04
  someone
• 26:04
  who
• 26:05
  is
• 26:05
  just
• 26:06
  seen
• 26:06
  as
• 26:06
  an
• 26:07
  entrepreneur,
• 26:08
  economic
• 26:09
  developer
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  also
• 26:11
  in
• 26:11
  the
• 26:12
  fashion
• 26:12
  world.
• 26:12
  Cause
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  was
• 26:13
  in
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  lane
• 26:13
  for
• 26:13
  so
• 26:14
  many
• 26:14
  years
• 26:15
  and
• 26:15
  be
• 26:15
  seen
• 26:16
  as
• 26:16
  an
• 26:16
  offer.
• 26:16
  So
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  started
• 26:18
  doing
• 26:18
  little
• 26:18
  micro
• 26:19
  videos
• 26:20
  around
• 26:21
  mental
• 26:22
  health,
• 26:22
  emotional
• 26:23
  health,
• 26:23
  spirituality,
• 26:25
  providing
• 26:25
  tips.
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  started
• 26:26
  doing
• 26:26
  it
• 26:26
  a
• 26:27
  lot
• 26:27
  early
• 26:27
  but
• 26:27
  really
• 26:28
  short
• 26:28
  form
• 26:30
  to
• 26:30
  really
• 26:30
  help
• 26:30
  with
• 26:30
  the
• 26:31
  branding
• 26:31
  and
• 26:32
  kind
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  reintroducing
• 26:33
  everyone
• 26:33
  to
• 26:34
  Brandon
• 26:34
  D.
• 26:35
  Campbell.
• 26:36
  So
• 26:36
  I
• 26:36
  did
• 26:37
  that
• 26:38
  well
• 26:38
  over
• 26:38
  a
• 26:39
  year
• 26:40
  and
• 26:40
  then
• 26:41
  as
• 26:42
  we
• 26:42
  got
• 26:42
  closer
• 26:43
  to
• 26:44
  book
• 26:44
  where
• 26:44
  we
• 26:45
  got
• 26:45
  like
• 26:45
  four
• 26:45
  or
• 26:45
  five
• 26:46
  months
• 26:46
  out,
• 26:47
  then
• 26:47
  that's
• 26:47
  when
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  launched
• 26:48
  it
• 26:49
  officially,
• 26:50
  Brennan
• 26:50
  D.
• 26:50
  Campbell
• 26:51
  Podcast.
• 26:51
  And
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  made
• 26:52
  a
• 26:52
  commitment
• 26:53
  to
• 26:54
  do
• 26:54
  it
• 26:55
  once
• 26:55
  a
• 26:55
  week.
• 26:56
  And
• 26:56
  the
• 26:57
  tie
• 26:57
  in
• 26:57
  the
• 26:58
  book,
• 26:58
  but
• 26:59
  not
• 26:59
  always
• 26:59
  make
• 26:59
  it
• 27:00
  about
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  book.
• 27:00
  I
• 27:01
  wanted
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  add
• 27:02
  value
• 27:02
  as
• 27:02
  much
• 27:03
  value
• 27:03
  on
• 27:03
  the
• 27:03
  front
• 27:04
  end
• 27:04
  using
• 27:04
  my
• 27:05
  insight
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  my
• 27:05
  experiences
• 27:07
  as
• 27:07
  an
• 27:07
  entrepreneur,
• 27:08
  as
• 27:08
  a
• 27:08
  writer,
• 27:09
  but
• 27:09
  most
• 27:10
  importantly
• 27:10
  as
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  father,
• 27:11
  someone
• 27:11
  who
• 27:11
  actually
• 27:11
  experienced
• 27:12
  life
• 27:13
  growing
• 27:13
  up
• 27:13
  in
• 27:13
  a
• 27:13
  blended
• 27:14
  family,
• 27:15
  having
• 27:15
  a
• 27:16
  single
• 27:16
  mom.
• 27:17
  I
• 27:17
  wanted
• 27:17
  people
• 27:18
  to
• 27:18
  just
• 27:18
  to
• 27:19
  really
• 27:19
  understand
• 27:19
  who
• 27:20
  I
• 27:20
  am,
• 27:20
  introduce
• 27:21
  who
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  am.
• 27:22
  And
• 27:22
  then
• 27:23
  far
• 27:23
  as
• 27:24
  my
• 27:24
  website,
• 27:24
  Brandon
• 27:25
  D.
• 27:25
  Campbell.com
• 27:27
  I
• 27:27
  wanted
• 27:27
  to
• 27:28
  have
• 27:28
  it
• 27:28
  be
• 27:28
  a
• 27:29
  centralized
• 27:29
  place
• 27:30
  for
• 27:30
  all
• 27:30
  those
• 27:31
  activity
• 27:32
  videos,
• 27:33
  things
• 27:34
  you
• 27:34
  need
• 27:34
  to
• 27:34
  know
• 27:34
  about
• 27:35
  me,
• 27:35
  my
• 27:35
  events,
• 27:36
  even
• 27:36
  some
• 27:37
  of
• 27:37
  my
• 27:37
  background
• 27:37
  on
• 27:38
  some
• 27:38
  of
• 27:38
  my
• 27:38
  Successes
• 27:39
  and
• 27:39
  my
• 27:39
  wins
• 27:40
  and
• 27:40
  things
• 27:40
  like
• 27:41
  that.
• 27:41
  Because
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  wanted
• 27:42
  people
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  see
• 27:43
  me
• 27:43
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• 27:43
  know
• 27:44
  that
• 27:44
  they
• 27:45
  can
• 27:45
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• 27:45
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• 27:46
  me.
• 27:46
  I'm
• 27:47
  not
• 27:47
  just
• 27:47
  some
• 27:47
  author
• 27:48
  or
• 27:48
  someone
• 27:48
  above
• 27:49
  their
• 27:49
  head,
• 27:49
  but
• 27:50
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• 27:50
  can
• 27:50
  connect
• 27:51
  and
• 27:51
  relate
• 27:52
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• 27:52
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• 27:52
  can
• 27:52
  communicate
• 27:53
  with
• 27:53
  me
• 27:54
  directly.
• 27:55
  And
• 27:55
  it's
• 27:56
  not
• 27:56
  owned
• 27:56
  by
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  publisher
• 27:58
  or
• 27:58
  some
• 27:58
  other
• 27:58
  company.
• 27:59
  No,
• 27:59
  you're
• 28:00
  talking
• 28:00
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• 28:00
  me.
• 28:01
  So
• 28:01
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• 28:01
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• 28:01
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• 28:02
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• 28:02
  me
• 28:02
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• 28:03
  I
• 28:03
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• 28:04
  my
• 28:04
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• 28:05
  line
• 28:05
  Publist,
• 28:06
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• 28:06
  you
• 28:06
  see
• 28:06
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  Pub
• 28:07
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• 28:08
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• 28:08
  I
• 28:08
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• 28:09
  when
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  launch
• 28:10
  it,
• 28:11
  then
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  have
• 28:13
  a
• 28:13
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• 28:14
  already
• 28:14
  engaged
• 28:16
  and
• 28:16
  this
• 28:16
  would
• 28:16
  be
• 28:16
  another
• 28:17
  revenue
• 28:18
  stream
• 28:18
  or
• 28:19
  outlet
• 28:19
  that
• 28:19
  they
• 28:19
  can
• 28:20
  take
• 28:20
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• 28:21
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• 28:21
  connect
• 28:21
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• 28:22
  me
• 28:22
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• 28:22
  through
• 28:23
  Publist.
• 28:24
  Okay,
• 28:24
  when
• 28:25
  you
• 28:25
  started
• 28:26
  your
• 28:26
  journey
• 28:26
  and
• 28:26
  you
• 28:27
  said
• 28:27
  you're
• 28:27
  about
• 28:27
  four
• 28:27
  or
• 28:28
  five
• 28:28
  months
• 28:28
  out,
• 28:28
  you
• 28:29
  had
• 28:29
  a
• 28:29
  specific
• 28:30
  strategy
• 28:30
  for
• 28:31
  a
• 28:32
  pre
• 28:32
  launch
• 28:33
  of
• 28:33
  your
• 28:33
  book.
• 28:34
  And
• 28:34
  now
• 28:34
  that
• 28:34
  you've
• 28:35
  launched
• 28:35
  your
• 28:35
  book,
• 28:36
  what's
• 28:36
  changed
• 28:37
  for
• 28:37
  you?
• 28:37
  What
• 28:37
  are
• 28:38
  you
• 28:38
  doing
• 28:38
  differently
• 28:39
  through
• 28:40
  your
• 28:40
  website
• 28:42
  from
• 28:42
  the
• 28:42
  pre
• 28:42
  launch
• 28:43
  to
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  launch?
• 28:45
  You
• 28:45
  know
• 28:45
  what,
• 28:45
  the
• 28:46
  only
• 28:46
  thing
• 28:46
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• 28:47
  about
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  website
• 28:49
  is
• 28:49
  that
• 28:50
  there's
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  lot
• 28:50
  more
• 28:51
  events
• 28:52
  and
• 28:52
  I'm
• 28:53
  sharing
• 28:53
  those
• 28:53
  events
• 28:54
  out
• 28:54
  with
• 28:55
  my
• 28:55
  followers.
• 28:55
  I
• 28:56
  have
• 28:56
  well
• 28:56
  over
• 28:56
  13,000
• 28:57
  subscribers
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  my
• 28:59
  sub
• 28:59
  stack
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  my
• 29:00
  website.
• 29:01
  That's
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  one
• 29:01
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• 29:01
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• 29:02
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• 29:02
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• 29:02
  two
• 29:03
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• 29:03
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• 29:03
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• 29:03
  them
• 29:03
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• 29:04
  So
• 29:04
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• 29:04
  not
• 29:04
  a
• 29:04
  standalone
• 29:06
  website.
• 29:07
  So
• 29:07
  my
• 29:07
  website
• 29:08
  is
• 29:08
  a
• 29:08
  substack.
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  do
• 29:09
  us
• 29:10
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• 29:10
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• 29:10
  the
• 29:11
  audience.
• 29:11
  What
• 29:11
  is
• 29:11
  a
• 29:12
  substack?
• 29:12
  What
• 29:12
  do
• 29:12
  you
• 29:13
  mean
• 29:13
  by
• 29:13
  that?
• 29:14
  Yeah,
• 29:14
  Substack
• 29:15
  is
• 29:15
  a
• 29:16
  platform
• 29:17
  that
• 29:17
  allows
• 29:18
  creators
• 29:18
  such
• 29:18
  as
• 29:19
  myself
• 29:19
  to
• 29:20
  develop
• 29:21
  newsletters
• 29:23
  as
• 29:23
  well
• 29:24
  as
• 29:24
  where
• 29:24
  you
• 29:24
  can
• 29:24
  get
• 29:25
  subscribers,
• 29:26
  people
• 29:26
  who
• 29:26
  follow
• 29:27
  you.
• 29:28
  And
• 29:28
  it's
• 29:28
  a
• 29:28
  very
• 29:28
  cost
• 29:29
  effective
• 29:30
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• 29:30
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• 29:30
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• 29:30
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• 29:30
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• 29:31
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• 29:31
  a
• 29:32
  website
• 29:32
  developer
• 29:33
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• 29:33
  producing
• 29:35
  having
• 29:35
  to
• 29:36
  promote
• 29:36
  it.
• 29:37
  Substack
• 29:38
  kind
• 29:38
  of
• 29:38
  rolls
• 29:38
  everything
• 29:39
  all
• 29:39
  into
• 29:40
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• 29:41
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• 29:41
  it's
• 29:42
  a
• 29:42
  newsletter
• 29:42
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• 29:42
  it's
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  website
• 29:43
  with
• 29:43
  information.
• 29:44
  Also
• 29:44
  my
• 29:45
  podcast
• 29:45
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• 29:46
  integrated
• 29:46
  as
• 29:47
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• 29:47
  And
• 29:48
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• 29:48
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• 29:48
  a
• 29:48
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• 29:48
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• 29:49
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• 29:50
  Yes
• 29:51
  Runner,
• 29:52
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• 29:52
  find
• 29:52
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• 29:53
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• 29:53
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• 29:53
  efficient,
• 29:54
  cost
• 29:54
  effective.
• 29:55
  And
• 29:55
  so
• 29:55
  Substack
• 29:56
  allows
• 29:56
  that
• 29:57
  it
• 29:57
  even
• 29:57
  also
• 29:57
  have
• 29:58
  kind
• 29:58
  of
• 29:58
  like
• 29:58
  a
• 29:58
  social
• 29:59
  media
• 29:59
  update
• 30:00
  type
• 30:00
  of
• 30:00
  platform.
• 30:01
  Is
• 30:01
  Substack
• 30:02
  actually
• 30:02
  your
• 30:04
  platform
• 30:04
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• 30:05
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• 30:05
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• 30:06
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• 30:06
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• 30:06
  subscription
• 30:07
  for?
• 30:08
  Is
• 30:08
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• 30:08
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• 30:09
  company
• 30:09
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• 30:10
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• 30:10
  does
• 30:10
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• 30:10
  work?
• 30:10
  Substack
• 30:11
  is
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  platform.
• 30:12
  It's
• 30:13
  a
• 30:13
  separate
• 30:13
  company,
• 30:14
  separate
• 30:14
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• 30:15
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  it's
• 30:15
  really
• 30:16
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• 30:16
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• 30:16
  creators.
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• 30:17
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• 30:19
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• 30:19
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• 30:20
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• 30:21
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• 30:21
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• 30:21
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• 30:21
  subscribers
• 30:22
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• 30:22
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• 30:23
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• 30:24
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• 30:24
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• 30:25
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• 30:25
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• 30:25
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• 30:26
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• 30:26
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• 30:26
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• 30:27
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• 30:28
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• 30:28
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• 30:29
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• 30:29
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• 30:29
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• 30:30
  But
• 30:30
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• 30:30
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• 30:31
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• 30:31
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• 30:31
  integrate
• 30:32
  all
• 30:33
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• 30:33
  network
• 30:35
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• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  years
• 30:36
  into
• 30:36
  one
• 30:37
  place
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  I
• 30:38
  have
• 30:38
  to
• 30:38
  send
• 30:38
  multiple
• 30:39
  different
• 30:39
  emails
• 30:40
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• 30:40
  newsletters
• 30:41
  out.
• 30:41
  And
• 30:42
  so
• 30:42
  it's
• 30:42
  been
• 30:42
  very
• 30:43
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• 30:44
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• 30:44
  me.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:45
  it
• 30:45
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• 30:45
  streamlined
• 30:46
  my
• 30:46
  communication
• 30:46
  and
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  selling
• 30:48
  of
• 30:48
  my
• 30:48
  book
• 30:49
  as
• 30:49
  well
• 30:49
  too,
• 30:49
  because
• 30:49
  I've
• 30:50
  connected
• 30:51
  to
• 30:51
  the
• 30:51
  publisher's
• 30:52
  page,
• 30:52
  but
• 30:52
  also
• 30:53
  pages
• 30:54
  where
• 30:55
  you
• 30:55
  can
• 30:55
  sign
• 30:56
  up
• 30:56
  and
• 30:56
  register
• 30:56
  for
• 30:57
  events
• 30:57
  and
• 30:57
  also
• 30:58
  purchase
• 30:58
  autograph
• 30:59
  signed
• 31:00
  copies
• 31:00
  of
• 31:00
  my
• 31:01
  book
• 31:01
  directly
• 31:01
  from
• 31:01
  me.
• 31:02
  When
• 31:02
  you
• 31:02
  say
• 31:03
  events,
• 31:03
  take
• 31:04
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• 31:04
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• 31:04
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• 31:05
  a
• 31:05
  moment.
• 31:05
  What
• 31:05
  type
• 31:05
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• 31:06
  events
• 31:06
  are
• 31:06
  you
• 31:07
  predominantly
• 31:08
  doing?
• 31:09
  Events
• 31:09
  that
• 31:09
  I
• 31:10
  am
• 31:10
  predominantly
• 31:11
  doing
• 31:11
  are
• 31:12
  events
• 31:12
  where
• 31:13
  I
• 31:13
  am
• 31:14
  speaking.
• 31:15
  Almost
• 31:16
  like
• 31:16
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• 31:16
  hybrid
• 31:17
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• 31:17
  speaking
• 31:19
  events
• 31:20
  in
• 31:20
  alarm
• 31:21
  work,
• 31:22
  education,
• 31:24
  literacy,
• 31:25
  but
• 31:26
  then
• 31:26
  also
• 31:28
  bug
• 31:28
  signings
• 31:29
  that
• 31:29
  I've
• 31:29
  been
• 31:30
  doing
• 31:30
  some
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  those
• 31:30
  as
• 31:31
  well,
• 31:31
  working
• 31:32
  with
• 31:32
  libraries,
• 31:33
  working
• 31:34
  with
• 31:34
  bookstores
• 31:36
  as
• 31:36
  well.
• 31:36
  But
• 31:37
  I'd
• 31:37
  probably
• 31:38
  say
• 31:38
  the
• 31:38
  most
• 31:38
  fruitful
• 31:39
  so
• 31:39
  far
• 31:39
  have
• 31:40
  really
• 31:40
  been
• 31:40
  in
• 31:41
  the
• 31:41
  education
• 31:41
  space,
• 31:43
  speaking
• 31:43
  at
• 31:44
  local
• 31:45
  elementary
• 31:46
  schools
• 31:46
  and
• 31:47
  partnership
• 31:47
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• 31:48
  school
• 31:48
  districts
• 31:48
  as
• 31:49
  well
• 31:49
  too,
• 31:50
  and
• 31:50
  libraries.
• 31:51
  Those
• 31:51
  have
• 31:52
  worked
• 31:52
  out
• 31:53
  very
• 31:53
  well
• 31:53
  for
• 31:53
  me
• 31:53
  so
• 31:54
  far.
• 31:54
  Excellent,
• 31:55
  excellent.
• 31:56
  You
• 31:56
  mentioned
• 31:56
  earlier,
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  think
• 31:58
  you
• 31:58
  call
• 31:58
  it
• 31:58
  Gosh.
• 32:00
  Yeah,
• 32:00
  Gosh.
• 32:00
  Yeah.
• 32:01
  What's
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  G
• 32:02
  stand
• 32:02
  for
• 32:02
  again?
• 32:03
  Getting
• 32:03
  our
• 32:04
  stories
• 32:04
  Heard.
• 32:05
  Getting
• 32:06
  our
• 32:08
  story
• 32:09
  heard.
• 32:09
  Okay,
• 32:10
  so
• 32:10
  take
• 32:10
  us
• 32:11
  a
• 32:11
  little
• 32:11
  deeper
• 32:11
  into
• 32:12
  that
• 32:12
  because
• 32:12
  it
• 32:13
  sounds
• 32:13
  very
• 32:14
  fascinating
• 32:15
  because
• 32:15
  we
• 32:15
  all
• 32:15
  want
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  get
• 32:16
  our
• 32:16
  stories
• 32:16
  heard.
• 32:17
  Yes.
• 32:18
  Anyone
• 32:18
  knows
• 32:18
  me,
• 32:19
  one
• 32:20
  of
• 32:20
  my
• 32:20
  skill
• 32:21
  sets
• 32:21
  and
• 32:22
  talents
• 32:23
  is
• 32:24
  developing
• 32:25
  businesses,
• 32:26
  but
• 32:26
  developing
• 32:27
  programs
• 32:28
  and
• 32:28
  ideas.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:29
  I'm
• 32:30
  really
• 32:30
  good
• 32:30
  with
• 32:30
  acronyms.
• 32:31
  It's
• 32:31
  just
• 32:32
  something
• 32:32
  that
• 32:32
  naturally
• 32:33
  comes
• 32:33
  to
• 32:33
  me.
• 32:34
  But
• 32:34
  God
• 32:35
  is
• 32:35
  something
• 32:35
  that
• 32:36
  came
• 32:36
  to
• 32:36
  me
• 32:37
  when
• 32:37
  I
• 32:38
  was
• 32:39
  probably
• 32:39
  20
• 32:39
  years
• 32:40
  ago
• 32:40
  working
• 32:40
  in
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  entertainment
• 32:41
  industry
• 32:42
  in
• 32:42
  LA.
• 32:43
  And
• 32:44
  I
• 32:44
  said
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  I'm
• 32:45
  going
• 32:45
  to
• 32:45
  create
• 32:45
  a
• 32:46
  media
• 32:46
  company
• 32:46
  called
• 32:47
  Gosh,
• 32:48
  Getting
• 32:48
  Our
• 32:48
  Stories
• 32:49
  Heard.
• 32:49
  That's
• 32:50
  going
• 32:50
  to
• 32:50
  be
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  umbrella
• 32:51
  company
• 32:51
  for
• 32:52
  all
• 32:52
  my
• 32:52
  creative
• 32:53
  projects.
• 32:54
  As
• 32:54
  you
• 32:54
  see,
• 32:54
  I
• 32:55
  put
• 32:55
  a
• 32:55
  lot
• 32:55
  of
• 32:55
  those
• 32:56
  creative
• 32:57
  art
• 32:57
  and
• 32:57
  publishing
• 32:58
  projects
• 32:58
  on
• 32:59
  hold
• 32:59
  until
• 32:59
  now.
• 33:00
  And
• 33:00
  Gosh
• 33:01
  is
• 33:01
  a
• 33:02
  platform
• 33:03
  that's
• 33:03
  going
• 33:03
  to
• 33:03
  be
• 33:03
  utilized
• 33:04
  for
• 33:04
  me
• 33:05
  and
• 33:05
  my
• 33:05
  project.
• 33:06
  But
• 33:06
  also
• 33:06
  I
• 33:07
  have
• 33:07
  children
• 33:07
  who
• 33:08
  are
• 33:08
  creative.
• 33:09
  They've
• 33:09
  already
• 33:10
  written
• 33:10
  books,
• 33:11
  they
• 33:11
  have
• 33:11
  ideas,
• 33:12
  but
• 33:12
  also
• 33:12
  for
• 33:13
  other
• 33:14
  individuals
• 33:15
  from
• 33:15
  historically
• 33:16
  underserved
• 33:17
  communities
• 33:18
  to
• 33:18
  get
• 33:19
  their
• 33:19
  stories
• 33:19
  heard,
• 33:20
  whether
• 33:21
  it's
• 33:21
  through
• 33:21
  book
• 33:21
  publishing,
• 33:22
  whether
• 33:22
  it's
• 33:23
  through
• 33:23
  podcasting,
• 33:24
  or
• 33:25
  even
• 33:25
  films
• 33:25
  and
• 33:26
  tv.
• 33:27
  The
• 33:27
  word
• 33:27
  is
• 33:27
  can
• 33:28
  go
• 33:28
  is
• 33:28
  endless.
• 33:29
  And
• 33:29
  it's
• 33:29
  open
• 33:29
  ended
• 33:30
  right
• 33:30
  now.
• 33:31
  But
• 33:31
  that's
• 33:31
  where
• 33:31
  Gosh
• 33:32
  originated.
• 33:33
  I
• 33:34
  always
• 33:34
  think
• 33:34
  about
• 33:34
  people
• 33:35
  saying,
• 33:35
  oh
• 33:35
  my
• 33:35
  gosh.
• 33:36
  Yeah,
• 33:36
  it's
• 33:37
  a.
• 33:37
  Yeah,
• 33:37
  it's
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  lot
• 33:38
  of
• 33:38
  fun.
• 33:38
  It's
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  fun
• 33:39
  word.
• 33:39
  Good
• 33:39
  for
• 33:39
  you.
• 33:40
  Motivation.
• 33:41
  Tell
• 33:41
  us
• 33:42
  a
• 33:42
  bit
• 33:42
  about
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  motivation
• 33:44
  behind
• 33:45
  your
• 33:45
  book
• 33:46
  to
• 33:46
  write
• 33:47
  it.
• 33:48
  The
• 33:48
  motivation
• 33:49
  behind
• 33:49
  the
• 33:49
  book
• 33:49
  is
• 33:51
  it
• 33:51
  was
• 33:52
  nothing
• 33:52
  out
• 33:52
  there
• 33:53
  like
• 33:53
  this.
• 33:54
  I
• 33:54
  felt
• 33:54
  like
• 33:54
  there
• 33:54
  was
• 33:55
  a
• 33:55
  hole
• 33:55
  in
• 33:56
  the
• 33:56
  marketplace
• 33:57
  and
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  group
• 33:58
  that
• 33:59
  is
• 34:00
  being
• 34:00
  underserved
• 34:01
  again.
• 34:02
  Right.
• 34:03
  Historically
• 34:04
  or
• 34:04
  even
• 34:05
  data
• 34:06
  shows
• 34:06
  that
• 34:07
  for
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  most
• 34:08
  part,
• 34:08
  those
• 34:09
  who
• 34:10
  who
• 34:10
  are
• 34:10
  coming
• 34:11
  from
• 34:11
  blended
• 34:11
  families
• 34:12
  or
• 34:13
  single
• 34:14
  family
• 34:14
  household
• 34:15
  are
• 34:16
  going
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  be
• 34:16
  challenged
• 34:17
  from
• 34:17
  a
• 34:17
  financial
• 34:18
  and
• 34:18
  societal
• 34:19
  standpoint,
• 34:19
  social,
• 34:20
  economic
• 34:20
  standpoint.
• 34:22
  To
• 34:22
  me,
• 34:23
  this
• 34:23
  is
• 34:24
  a
• 34:24
  way
• 34:24
  for
• 34:25
  me
• 34:25
  to
• 34:25
  help
• 34:26
  them,
• 34:27
  have
• 34:27
  them
• 34:27
  see
• 34:27
  themselves
• 34:28
  in
• 34:28
  stories
• 34:29
  and
• 34:30
  to
• 34:30
  inspire
• 34:30
  and
• 34:30
  motivate
• 34:31
  them
• 34:32
  through
• 34:32
  storytelling.
• 34:34
  Because
• 34:34
  unfortunately
• 34:35
  for
• 34:35
  me,
• 34:36
  there
• 34:36
  were
• 34:36
  no
• 34:36
  books
• 34:37
  like
• 34:37
  this
• 34:38
  for
• 34:38
  me
• 34:38
  growing
• 34:38
  up,
• 34:39
  which
• 34:39
  then
• 34:40
  made
• 34:40
  me
• 34:41
  less
• 34:42
  inspired
• 34:42
  and
• 34:43
  lacked
• 34:43
  the
• 34:43
  motivation
• 34:45
  to
• 34:45
  want
• 34:45
  to
• 34:45
  read
• 34:46
  some
• 34:46
  of
• 34:46
  the
• 34:46
  stories.
• 34:47
  I'm
• 34:47
  sorry,
• 34:48
  I
• 34:48
  cannot
• 34:49
  relate
• 34:49
  to
• 34:50
  Shakespeare.
• 34:52
  Why?
• 34:52
  Because
• 34:52
  where
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  come
• 34:53
  from,
• 34:54
  nothing
• 34:54
  Shakespearean,
• 34:56
  nothing
• 34:56
  was
• 34:56
  out.
• 34:57
  Life
• 34:58
  was
• 34:58
  real.
• 34:58
  Life
• 34:59
  was
• 34:59
  serious.
• 35:00
  You
• 35:01
  dream
• 35:01
  when
• 35:01
  you
• 35:01
  close
• 35:02
  your
• 35:02
  eyes,
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  know,
• 35:03
  and
• 35:04
  if
• 35:04
  you
• 35:04
  do
• 35:04
  that,
• 35:04
  you
• 35:04
  better
• 35:05
  keep
• 35:05
  one
• 35:05
  of
• 35:05
  them
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  little
• 35:06
  halfway
• 35:07
  open
• 35:07
  because
• 35:07
  you
• 35:07
  never
• 35:08
  know
• 35:08
  what
• 35:09
  may
• 35:09
  happen
• 35:09
  to
• 35:09
  you.
• 35:10
  So
• 35:10
  that
• 35:10
  was
• 35:10
  my
• 35:11
  upbringing.
• 35:11
  And
• 35:12
  so
• 35:12
  I
• 35:12
  wanted
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  provide
• 35:13
  something
• 35:13
  that
• 35:13
  was
• 35:13
  real
• 35:14
  and
• 35:14
  authentic.
• 35:15
  That's
• 35:15
  what
• 35:15
  motivated
• 35:16
  me.
• 35:16
  But
• 35:17
  even
• 35:17
  more
• 35:17
  so,
• 35:18
  I
• 35:19
  want
• 35:19
  to
• 35:19
  bond
• 35:20
  families
• 35:21
  and
• 35:21
  keep
• 35:21
  them
• 35:21
  bonded
• 35:22
  positively
• 35:24
  and
• 35:24
  alleviate
• 35:25
  some
• 35:26
  of
• 35:26
  this
• 35:26
  mental
• 35:26
  health
• 35:27
  crisis
• 35:27
  that
• 35:27
  we
• 35:28
  have
• 35:28
  in
• 35:28
  this
• 35:28
  world.
• 35:29
  That
• 35:30
  I
• 35:30
  believe
• 35:30
  is
• 35:31
  more
• 35:31
  likely
• 35:31
  it's
• 35:32
  going
• 35:32
  to
• 35:32
  continue
• 35:33
  if
• 35:33
  we
• 35:33
  don't
• 35:33
  provide
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  tools
• 35:35
  and
• 35:35
  the
• 35:35
  resources
• 35:36
  such
• 35:36
  as
• 35:36
  a
• 35:37
  book
• 35:37
  like
• 35:37
  Old
• 35:38
  Brother,
• 35:38
  My
• 35:38
  Brother
• 35:39
  that
• 35:39
  can
• 35:39
  really
• 35:39
  tap
• 35:40
  into
• 35:40
  some
• 35:40
  of
• 35:40
  this
• 35:41
  early
• 35:41
  on
• 35:42
  in
• 35:42
  a
• 35:43
  person's
• 35:43
  life
• 35:44
  versus
• 35:44
  trying
• 35:44
  to
• 35:45
  save
• 35:45
  them
• 35:45
  when
• 35:45
  they
• 35:46
  become
• 35:46
  a
• 35:47
  fully
• 35:47
  grown
• 35:48
  woman
• 35:49
  or
• 35:49
  man.
• 35:49
  I
• 35:50
  couldn't
• 35:50
  agree
• 35:50
  with
• 35:50
  you
• 35:50
  more.
• 35:51
  Let's
• 35:51
  talk
• 35:51
  a
• 35:52
  little
• 35:52
  bit
• 35:52
  about
• 35:52
  the
• 35:53
  character
• 35:53
  development
• 35:54
  in
• 35:54
  your
• 35:54
  book
• 35:55
  because
• 35:55
  you
• 35:55
  have
• 35:55
  two
• 35:56
  main
• 35:56
  characters.
• 35:57
  Talk
• 35:57
  to
• 35:57
  us
• 35:57
  about
• 35:58
  your
• 35:58
  characters
• 35:58
  and
• 35:59
  talk
• 35:59
  about
• 36:00
  their
• 36:00
  unique
• 36:00
  relationship.
• 36:02
  Yes.
• 36:03
  And
• 36:04
  so
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  characters
• 36:05
  are
• 36:05
  Omar
• 36:06
  and
• 36:07
  Michael.
• 36:08
  The
• 36:08
  name
• 36:08
  of
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  book
• 36:09
  O
• 36:09
  Brother
• 36:09
  My
• 36:09
  Brother
• 36:10
  comes
• 36:10
  stems
• 36:10
  from
• 36:11
  their
• 36:11
  nicknames.
• 36:11
  Omar.
• 36:12
  His
• 36:12
  nickname
• 36:13
  is
• 36:13
  Michael,
• 36:14
  the
• 36:14
  younger
• 36:15
  brother,
• 36:15
  who
• 36:16
  in
• 36:17
  the
• 36:17
  story,
• 36:17
  it's
• 36:18
  his
• 36:18
  birthday,
• 36:18
  so
• 36:19
  he
• 36:19
  just
• 36:19
  turned
• 36:19
  seven.
• 36:20
  His
• 36:20
  nickname
• 36:21
  is
• 36:21
  mine
• 36:22
  own
• 36:23
  is
• 36:23
  10
• 36:24
  years
• 36:24
  old.
• 36:25
  And
• 36:25
  how
• 36:25
  I
• 36:26
  develop
• 36:26
  the
• 36:26
  characters
• 36:27
  and
• 36:28
  their
• 36:28
  personalities
• 36:29
  really
• 36:29
  just
• 36:29
  come
• 36:29
  from
• 36:30
  my
• 36:31
  own
• 36:31
  experience.
• 36:32
  I
• 36:32
  see
• 36:32
  a
• 36:32
  lot
• 36:32
  of
• 36:33
  myself
• 36:34
  in
• 36:34
  Omar,
• 36:35
  the
• 36:35
  older
• 36:36
  brother.
• 36:36
  Yes,
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  younger
• 36:38
  brother.
• 36:39
  My
• 36:39
  is
• 36:40
  inspired
• 36:40
  from
• 36:40
  my
• 36:41
  relationship
• 36:41
  with
• 36:41
  my
• 36:41
  own
• 36:42
  brother
• 36:42
  Chris
• 36:43
  growing
• 36:43
  up
• 36:44
  and
• 36:44
  what
• 36:44
  our
• 36:45
  relationship
• 36:45
  was
• 36:45
  like
• 36:46
  as
• 36:47
  we
• 36:47
  grew
• 36:48
  and
• 36:48
  we
• 36:48
  developed
• 36:49
  Omar
• 36:50
  someone
• 36:50
  just
• 36:51
  like
• 36:51
  I
• 36:51
  was.
• 36:52
  When
• 36:52
  I
• 36:52
  got
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  certain
• 36:53
  age,
• 36:53
  it
• 36:53
  was
• 36:53
  all
• 36:53
  about
• 36:54
  sports.
• 36:55
  It
• 36:55
  was
• 36:55
  about
• 36:55
  finding
• 36:56
  those
• 36:56
  heroes
• 36:57
  that
• 36:57
  were
• 36:57
  out
• 36:57
  there,
• 36:58
  such
• 36:59
  as
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  Michael
• 37:00
  Jordan
• 37:00
  and
• 37:00
  Bo
• 37:01
  Jackson
• 37:01
  and
• 37:01
  the
• 37:02
  Barry
• 37:02
  Sanders
• 37:03
  that
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  can
• 37:04
  relate
• 37:04
  to,
• 37:04
  that
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  can
• 37:05
  look
• 37:05
  up
• 37:05
  to.
• 37:06
  Because
• 37:06
  unfortunately,
• 37:07
  I
• 37:07
  didn't
• 37:08
  have
• 37:09
  as
• 37:09
  many
• 37:09
  role
• 37:10
  models
• 37:10
  growing
• 37:11
  up
• 37:11
  that
• 37:12
  can
• 37:12
  identify
• 37:13
  relate
• 37:13
  to.
• 37:14
  And
• 37:14
  so
• 37:15
  that's
• 37:15
  Omar
• 37:16
  and
• 37:17
  he's
• 37:17
  a
• 37:17
  little
• 37:18
  bit
• 37:18
  more
• 37:18
  self
• 37:18
  reflective.
• 37:19
  And
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  was
• 37:20
  a
• 37:20
  very
• 37:21
  thoughtful
• 37:21
  person
• 37:22
  growing
• 37:22
  up
• 37:22
  as
• 37:23
  a
• 37:23
  young
• 37:23
  age,
• 37:23
  had
• 37:24
  questions
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  ideas
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  my
• 37:26
  mind
• 37:26
  was
• 37:27
  always
• 37:27
  racing
• 37:27
  on
• 37:27
  something.
• 37:28
  But
• 37:29
  I
• 37:29
  would
• 37:29
  keep
• 37:29
  things
• 37:30
  in
• 37:31
  because
• 37:31
  there
• 37:31
  was
• 37:32
  no
• 37:32
  avenue
• 37:33
  for
• 37:33
  me
• 37:33
  to
• 37:33
  express
• 37:34
  myself
• 37:35
  or
• 37:36
  my
• 37:36
  mom.
• 37:37
  Her
• 37:37
  work
• 37:37
  schedule
• 37:38
  was
• 37:38
  one
• 37:38
  in
• 37:38
  which
• 37:39
  there
• 37:39
  was
• 37:40
  not
• 37:40
  a
• 37:40
  lot
• 37:40
  of
• 37:41
  connecting.
• 37:42
  That
• 37:42
  took
• 37:42
  place
• 37:43
  between
• 37:43
  Monday
• 37:43
  and
• 37:44
  Friday.
• 37:44
  Okay,
• 37:46
  then
• 37:46
  my
• 37:46
  brother
• 37:47
  mine,
• 37:48
  he's
• 37:48
  more
• 37:48
  outgoing.
• 37:49
  He's
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  cute
• 37:50
  one.
• 37:50
  His
• 37:50
  dad
• 37:51
  is
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  dad
• 37:52
  that's
• 37:52
  more
• 37:52
  present
• 37:54
  in
• 37:54
  their
• 37:54
  lives.
• 37:55
  It's
• 37:56
  more
• 37:56
  likely
• 37:57
  when
• 37:57
  you
• 37:57
  have,
• 37:58
  when
• 37:58
  you're
• 37:58
  in
• 37:58
  a
• 37:58
  blended
• 37:58
  family,
• 37:59
  the
• 38:00
  dad
• 38:00
  that
• 38:00
  shows
• 38:01
  up
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  most
• 38:01
  and
• 38:02
  who
• 38:02
  can
• 38:02
  provide
• 38:03
  extra
• 38:03
  value
• 38:04
  or
• 38:04
  benefit
• 38:05
  to
• 38:05
  the
• 38:05
  family,
• 38:06
  unfortunately,
• 38:07
  that
• 38:07
  child
• 38:08
  gets
• 38:08
  elevated
• 38:09
  more
• 38:10
  so
• 38:10
  as
• 38:11
  a
• 38:11
  child
• 38:11
  that
• 38:12
  is
• 38:12
  more
• 38:12
  likable,
• 38:13
  or
• 38:13
  at
• 38:13
  least
• 38:13
  that's
• 38:14
  what
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  perception
• 38:15
  is
• 38:15
  to
• 38:16
  the
• 38:16
  other
• 38:16
  siblings
• 38:17
  in
• 38:17
  this
• 38:17
  blended
• 38:18
  family
• 38:18
  structure.
• 38:19
  And
• 38:19
  so
• 38:20
  he's
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  cute
• 38:21
  one,
• 38:21
  right?
• 38:21
  He
• 38:22
  has
• 38:22
  the
• 38:22
  dimples,
• 38:23
  he's
• 38:23
  the
• 38:23
  youngest.
• 38:24
  Right.
• 38:24
  He's
• 38:25
  all
• 38:25
  the
• 38:25
  things
• 38:25
  that
• 38:26
  you're
• 38:26
  not.
• 38:27
  And
• 38:27
  so
• 38:27
  we're
• 38:28
  very
• 38:28
  different
• 38:29
  in
• 38:30
  our
• 38:31
  personal
• 38:31
  life.
• 38:31
  He's
• 38:32
  a
• 38:32
  little
• 38:32
  bit
• 38:32
  more
• 38:32
  outgoing.
• 38:33
  He
• 38:34
  doesn't
• 38:34
  take
• 38:35
  himself
• 38:35
  as
• 38:35
  seriously
• 38:36
  as
• 38:36
  Omar
• 38:37
  does
• 38:38
  of
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  story,
• 38:38
  even
• 38:38
  at
• 38:39
  that
• 38:39
  young
• 38:39
  age.
• 38:40
  But
• 38:41
  throughout
• 38:41
  the
• 38:42
  story,
• 38:42
  he
• 38:42
  takes
• 38:42
  them
• 38:43
  from
• 38:43
  this
• 38:43
  place
• 38:43
  where
• 38:44
  Omar
• 38:44
  really
• 38:44
  can't
• 38:45
  stand
• 38:46
  the
• 38:46
  younger
• 38:46
  brother
• 38:47
  because
• 38:47
  he's
• 38:47
  just
• 38:48
  a
• 38:48
  younger
• 38:48
  brother.
• 38:48
  And
• 38:49
  he
• 38:49
  gets
• 38:49
  all
• 38:49
  the
• 38:49
  attention
• 38:50
  and
• 38:50
  the
• 38:50
  affection,
• 38:51
  something
• 38:51
  that
• 38:52
  Omar
• 38:52
  really
• 38:53
  craves
• 38:53
  but
• 38:53
  doesn't
• 38:54
  know
• 38:54
  how
• 38:54
  to
• 38:54
  get
• 38:54
  it,
• 38:55
  to
• 38:56
  the
• 38:56
  mischievousness
• 38:57
  of
• 38:58
  my.
• 38:59
  And
• 38:59
  how
• 38:59
  they're
• 39:00
  so
• 39:00
  different
• 39:01
  where
• 39:02
  Omar
• 39:03
  is
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  little
• 39:03
  bit
• 39:03
  more
• 39:03
  cautious.
• 39:05
  But
• 39:05
  in
• 39:06
  the
• 39:06
  end,
• 39:06
  through
• 39:07
  conflict
• 39:07
  with
• 39:07
  the
• 39:08
  neighborhood
• 39:08
  dog,
• 39:09
  bully
• 39:09
  dog
• 39:10
  named
• 39:10
  Nebo,
• 39:11
  they
• 39:12
  come
• 39:12
  together
• 39:12
  and
• 39:13
  they
• 39:13
  just
• 39:13
  really
• 39:14
  understand
• 39:15
  that
• 39:15
  they're
• 39:15
  different.
• 39:15
  But
• 39:16
  at
• 39:16
  the
• 39:16
  end
• 39:16
  of
• 39:16
  the
• 39:16
  day,
• 39:16
  they
• 39:17
  love
• 39:17
  each
• 39:17
  other
• 39:17
  and
• 39:18
  they're
• 39:18
  going
• 39:18
  to
• 39:18
  take
• 39:18
  care
• 39:18
  of
• 39:18
  each
• 39:19
  other
• 39:19
  and
• 39:19
  look
• 39:20
  out
• 39:20
  for
• 39:20
  each
• 39:20
  other
• 39:20
  and
• 39:21
  that's
• 39:21
  how
• 39:21
  they
• 39:21
  understand
• 39:22
  their
• 39:22
  brother.
• 39:23
  I
• 39:23
  want
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  get
• 39:23
  into
• 39:24
  your
• 39:24
  central
• 39:24
  teaching
• 39:25
  because
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  love
• 39:25
  what
• 39:26
  you've
• 39:26
  done
• 39:27
  in
• 39:27
  Brandon's
• 39:28
  book.
• 39:29
  There's
• 39:29
  10
• 39:30
  chapters.
• 39:30
  And
• 39:31
  the
• 39:32
  beautiful
• 39:32
  thing
• 39:32
  about
• 39:32
  what
• 39:33
  Brandon's
• 39:34
  done
• 39:34
  is
• 39:34
  there's
• 39:35
  some
• 39:35
  reflective
• 39:36
  questions.
• 39:37
  I'm
• 39:38
  going
• 39:38
  to
• 39:38
  say
• 39:38
  reflective
• 39:39
  at
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  end
• 39:39
  of
• 39:40
  each
• 39:40
  chapter.
• 39:41
  I'm
• 39:41
  curious
• 39:42
  why
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  use
• 39:43
  that
• 39:43
  technique.
• 39:43
  And
• 39:44
  then
• 39:44
  how
• 39:45
  did
• 39:45
  you
• 39:45
  develop
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  central
• 39:47
  lessons
• 39:48
  when
• 39:48
  you
• 39:48
  started
• 39:49
  writing
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  book?
• 39:49
  And
• 39:49
  did
• 39:50
  you
• 39:50
  come
• 39:50
  up
• 39:50
  with
• 39:50
  those
• 39:50
  central
• 39:51
  questions
• 39:53
  first
• 39:53
  and
• 39:53
  then
• 39:53
  write
• 39:54
  the
• 39:54
  chapters
• 39:54
  or
• 39:55
  did
• 39:55
  you
• 39:55
  write
• 39:55
  the
• 39:55
  chapters
• 39:56
  and
• 39:56
  then
• 39:57
  figure
• 39:57
  out
• 39:58
  how
• 39:58
  to
• 39:58
  support
• 39:59
  it?
• 39:59
  That's
• 40:00
  an
• 40:00
  interesting
• 40:00
  question
• 40:01
  because
• 40:02
  part
• 40:02
  of
• 40:02
  it
• 40:03
  came
• 40:03
  from
• 40:05
  the
• 40:05
  questions
• 40:06
  that
• 40:06
  I
• 40:06
  had
• 40:06
  growing
• 40:07
  up.
• 40:07
  So
• 40:08
  these
• 40:08
  Questions
• 40:08
  have
• 40:09
  stuck
• 40:09
  with
• 40:09
  me.
• 40:10
  So
• 40:10
  these
• 40:11
  were
• 40:11
  questions
• 40:11
  you
• 40:12
  had
• 40:12
  as
• 40:12
  a
• 40:12
  young
• 40:12
  child.
• 40:13
  As
• 40:13
  a
• 40:13
  young
• 40:14
  child.
• 40:14
  As
• 40:15
  far
• 40:15
  as
• 40:15
  the
• 40:15
  process,
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  wrote
• 40:17
  the
• 40:17
  story
• 40:17
  first,
• 40:19
  then
• 40:19
  I
• 40:19
  included
• 40:20
  the
• 40:20
  questions
• 40:21
  after
• 40:22
  each
• 40:22
  chapter.
• 40:22
  But
• 40:22
  I
• 40:23
  wanted
• 40:23
  to
• 40:24
  be
• 40:24
  sure
• 40:24
  that
• 40:25
  I
• 40:25
  was
• 40:25
  being
• 40:25
  empathetic
• 40:27
  to
• 40:28
  what
• 40:28
  the
• 40:28
  relationship
• 40:29
  dynamic
• 40:30
  may
• 40:30
  or
• 40:30
  may
• 40:31
  not
• 40:31
  be
• 40:31
  like
• 40:33
  for
• 40:33
  a
• 40:33
  child
• 40:33
  and
• 40:34
  a
• 40:34
  parent.
• 40:35
  Using
• 40:35
  my
• 40:35
  journalism
• 40:36
  ability.
• 40:36
  I
• 40:37
  have
• 40:37
  a
• 40:37
  journalism
• 40:38
  background
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  I've
• 40:39
  done
• 40:39
  that
• 40:39
  type
• 40:40
  of
• 40:40
  work.
• 40:41
  You
• 40:41
  want
• 40:41
  to
• 40:41
  start
• 40:41
  off
• 40:42
  with
• 40:42
  something
• 40:42
  a
• 40:42
  little
• 40:42
  bit
• 40:43
  lighter
• 40:43
  in
• 40:44
  the
• 40:44
  beginning.
• 40:45
  And
• 40:45
  so
• 40:46
  I
• 40:46
  wanted
• 40:46
  to
• 40:46
  just
• 40:47
  start
• 40:47
  creating
• 40:48
  the
• 40:48
  basic
• 40:48
  dialogue
• 40:49
  between
• 40:50
  parent
• 40:50
  and
• 40:51
  child
• 40:51
  and
• 40:51
  as
• 40:52
  it
• 40:52
  relates
• 40:52
  to
• 40:52
  the
• 40:53
  story,
• 40:53
  what
• 40:54
  they're
• 40:54
  seeing
• 40:54
  in
• 40:54
  the
• 40:55
  book.
• 40:55
  But
• 40:56
  gradually,
• 40:56
  as
• 40:57
  the
• 40:57
  story
• 40:58
  gets
• 40:58
  a
• 40:59
  little
• 40:59
  bit
• 40:59
  more
• 40:59
  riveting
• 41:00
  and
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  get
• 41:01
  to
• 41:01
  the
• 41:02
  climax
• 41:02
  of
• 41:02
  the
• 41:03
  story,
• 41:03
  then
• 41:03
  there's
• 41:04
  a
• 41:04
  little
• 41:04
  bit
• 41:04
  more
• 41:04
  heavier
• 41:05
  question.
• 41:06
  But
• 41:06
  now
• 41:07
  by
• 41:07
  that
• 41:07
  time,
• 41:09
  they've
• 41:09
  already
• 41:10
  connected
• 41:11
  the
• 41:12
  child
• 41:12
  and
• 41:12
  the
• 41:12
  mother.
• 41:13
  But
• 41:13
  also
• 41:13
  they're
• 41:14
  also
• 41:14
  invested
• 41:15
  into
• 41:15
  the
• 41:15
  story
• 41:16
  now.
• 41:17
  So
• 41:17
  can't
• 41:18
  just
• 41:18
  get
• 41:18
  up
• 41:18
  and
• 41:18
  walk
• 41:18
  away.
• 41:19
  I
• 41:19
  don't
• 41:19
  want
• 41:19
  to
• 41:20
  answer
• 41:20
  that
• 41:20
  question
• 41:21
  right
• 41:21
  now.
• 41:22
  But
• 41:22
  the
• 41:23
  goal
• 41:23
  of
• 41:23
  it
• 41:24
  all
• 41:24
  is
• 41:24
  to
• 41:25
  bond
• 41:26
  parent
• 41:26
  and
• 41:26
  child
• 41:27
  and
• 41:27
  also
• 41:29
  start
• 41:29
  the
• 41:29
  healing
• 41:30
  process
• 41:30
  not
• 41:30
  only
• 41:30
  with
• 41:31
  the
• 41:31
  child,
• 41:31
  but
• 41:31
  with
• 41:31
  the
• 41:31
  parent
• 41:32
  as
• 41:32
  well,
• 41:33
  too.
• 41:33
  Because
• 41:34
  oftentimes
• 41:34
  our
• 41:34
  children
• 41:35
  are
• 41:35
  mirror
• 41:35
  reflections
• 41:36
  of
• 41:36
  ourselves.
• 41:37
  And
• 41:38
  oftentimes
• 41:39
  these
• 41:39
  are
• 41:39
  generational
• 41:40
  behaviors
• 41:41
  or
• 41:41
  challenges
• 41:42
  that
• 41:43
  just
• 41:43
  didn't
• 41:43
  start
• 41:44
  with
• 41:44
  the
• 41:44
  parent
• 41:45
  or
• 41:45
  with
• 41:45
  the
• 41:46
  child.
• 41:46
  I
• 41:47
  believe
• 41:47
  they'll
• 41:47
  start
• 41:47
  seeing
• 41:48
  how
• 41:50
  their
• 41:50
  upbringings
• 41:51
  are
• 41:51
  very
• 41:52
  similar.
• 41:53
  The
• 41:53
  questions
• 41:54
  that
• 41:54
  are
• 41:54
  in
• 41:54
  the
• 41:54
  book
• 41:55
  that
• 41:55
  the
• 41:55
  child
• 41:56
  may
• 41:56
  be
• 41:56
  asking
• 41:56
  the
• 41:56
  parent
• 41:57
  or
• 41:58
  the
• 41:58
  parent
• 41:58
  asking
• 41:58
  the
• 41:59
  child
• 41:59
  are
• 41:59
  questions
• 42:00
  they
• 42:00
  would
• 42:00
  have
• 42:00
  loved
• 42:01
  to
• 42:01
  ask
• 42:02
  their
• 42:02
  pick.
• 42:03
  Have
• 42:03
  you
• 42:03
  taken
• 42:03
  your
• 42:04
  questions
• 42:05
  and
• 42:05
  are
• 42:05
  you
• 42:05
  looking
• 42:06
  at.
• 42:06
  Because
• 42:06
  you
• 42:07
  talked
• 42:07
  about
• 42:07
  going
• 42:07
  to
• 42:08
  educational
• 42:09
  institutions,
• 42:10
  are
• 42:10
  you
• 42:11
  developing
• 42:12
  your
• 42:12
  questions
• 42:13
  into
• 42:13
  a
• 42:13
  curriculum?
• 42:15
  Yes,
• 42:15
  I
• 42:15
  am.
• 42:15
  Thank
• 42:16
  you
• 42:16
  for
• 42:16
  bringing
• 42:16
  that
• 42:16
  up.
• 42:17
  And
• 42:17
  so
• 42:18
  curriculum
• 42:19
  workshops
• 42:20
  as
• 42:20
  well,
• 42:20
  too.
• 42:21
  What
• 42:21
  about
• 42:21
  a
• 42:22
  supporting
• 42:22
  workbook?
• 42:23
  That's
• 42:24
  something
• 42:24
  that's
• 42:24
  in
• 42:24
  the
• 42:25
  works
• 42:25
  as
• 42:25
  well,
• 42:25
  too.
• 42:26
  That's
• 42:26
  something
• 42:26
  that's
• 42:27
  in
• 42:27
  the
• 42:27
  work.
• 42:27
  What
• 42:28
  I
• 42:28
  want
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  do
• 42:28
  is
• 42:28
  allow
• 42:29
  for
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  demand
• 42:30
  and
• 42:30
  to
• 42:30
  tell
• 42:30
  me
• 42:31
  that's
• 42:31
  really
• 42:31
  what
• 42:32
  they
• 42:32
  want.
• 42:32
  But
• 42:33
  right
• 42:33
  now,
• 42:33
  it's
• 42:34
  been
• 42:34
  developing
• 42:34
  that
• 42:34
  curriculum
• 42:35
  from
• 42:35
  a
• 42:36
  standpoint.
• 42:37
  When
• 42:37
  I'm
• 42:37
  doing
• 42:38
  in
• 42:38
  person
• 42:38
  events,
• 42:39
  it's
• 42:40
  my
• 42:40
  events.
• 42:41
  It's
• 42:41
  not
• 42:41
  just
• 42:41
  a
• 42:42
  regular.
• 42:42
  I'm
• 42:43
  just
• 42:43
  going
• 42:43
  to
• 42:43
  read
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  story
• 42:44
  to
• 42:44
  you.
• 42:45
  And
• 42:45
  we
• 42:45
  sing
• 42:46
  Kumbaya
• 42:46
  at
• 42:47
  the
• 42:47
  end
• 42:47
  of
• 42:47
  the
• 42:47
  day.
• 42:48
  But
• 42:48
  for
• 42:49
  us,
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  had
• 42:49
  an
• 42:49
  event
• 42:50
  at
• 42:50
  the
• 42:50
  public
• 42:51
  children's
• 42:51
  library
• 42:53
  and
• 42:53
  was
• 42:53
  unbelievable
• 42:54
  for
• 42:54
  me,
• 42:55
  but
• 42:55
  it
• 42:55
  was
• 42:56
  just
• 42:56
  a
• 42:56
  great
• 42:57
  experience
• 42:58
  where
• 42:58
  we're
• 42:59
  reading
• 42:59
  the
• 42:59
  story.
• 43:00
  Then
• 43:01
  at
• 43:02
  the
• 43:02
  end
• 43:02
  of
• 43:02
  each
• 43:02
  chapter,
• 43:03
  I'm
• 43:03
  Asking
• 43:03
  questions.
• 43:04
  Mom,
• 43:05
  dad,
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  their
• 43:06
  kids
• 43:08
  asking
• 43:08
  questions,
• 43:09
  but
• 43:09
  having
• 43:09
  these
• 43:10
  conversations
• 43:11
  that
• 43:11
  they
• 43:11
  had
• 43:12
  never
• 43:12
  had
• 43:12
  before
• 43:13
  about
• 43:14
  the
• 43:14
  structure
• 43:15
  of
• 43:15
  their
• 43:15
  blended
• 43:16
  family.
• 43:16
  Asking
• 43:17
  questions
• 43:17
  about,
• 43:18
  how
• 43:18
  do
• 43:18
  you
• 43:19
  show
• 43:19
  love?
• 43:20
  How
• 43:20
  would
• 43:20
  you
• 43:20
  like
• 43:20
  to
• 43:21
  receive
• 43:21
  love?
• 43:22
  What
• 43:22
  does
• 43:23
  this
• 43:23
  mean
• 43:24
  when
• 43:25
  certain
• 43:25
  things
• 43:25
  happen
• 43:26
  to
• 43:26
  you,
• 43:27
  mom
• 43:28
  or
• 43:28
  dad?
• 43:29
  What
• 43:29
  was
• 43:29
  your
• 43:30
  dreams
• 43:30
  growing
• 43:30
  up?
• 43:31
  What
• 43:31
  did
• 43:31
  you
• 43:31
  dream
• 43:31
  about
• 43:32
  the
• 43:32
  most?
• 43:33
  What
• 43:34
  was
• 43:34
  your
• 43:34
  aspiration?
• 43:35
  My
• 43:36
  old
• 43:36
  daughter
• 43:36
  asked
• 43:37
  me
• 43:37
  that
• 43:37
  one
• 43:37
  time
• 43:38
  while
• 43:38
  we
• 43:38
  were
• 43:38
  doing
• 43:39
  a
• 43:39
  nature
• 43:39
  walk,
• 43:40
  and
• 43:40
  it
• 43:40
  stopped
• 43:41
  me
• 43:41
  in
• 43:41
  my
• 43:41
  tracks.
• 43:41
  I
• 43:41
  didn't
• 43:42
  know
• 43:42
  how
• 43:42
  to
• 43:43
  respond
• 43:43
  at
• 43:43
  first
• 43:44
  because
• 43:44
  here
• 43:44
  I
• 43:45
  am,
• 43:45
  a
• 43:45
  grown
• 43:45
  man,
• 43:46
  and
• 43:47
  no
• 43:47
  one
• 43:47
  has
• 43:47
  asked
• 43:48
  me
• 43:48
  that
• 43:48
  question
• 43:49
  since
• 43:49
  I
• 43:49
  was
• 43:49
  a
• 43:49
  child.
• 43:50
  What
• 43:50
  did
• 43:50
  I
• 43:51
  want
• 43:51
  to
• 43:51
  be
• 43:51
  when
• 43:51
  I
• 43:51
  grew
• 43:52
  up?
• 43:52
  I
• 43:52
  love
• 43:52
  how
• 43:52
  you
• 43:53
  have
• 43:53
  approached
• 43:54
  it
• 43:54
  from
• 43:54
  a
• 43:54
  child's
• 43:55
  mind
• 43:55
  and
• 43:56
  developed
• 43:56
  the
• 43:56
  questions.
• 43:57
  And
• 43:58
  that
• 43:58
  really
• 43:59
  lays
• 43:59
  the
• 43:59
  foundation
• 44:00
  for
• 44:01
  children
• 44:01
  to
• 44:02
  get
• 44:02
  engaged
• 44:03
  because
• 44:04
  you
• 44:04
  put
• 44:04
  yourself
• 44:05
  back
• 44:05
  in
• 44:05
  that
• 44:05
  childhood
• 44:06
  experience
• 44:07
  and
• 44:07
  developed
• 44:08
  your
• 44:08
  questions.
• 44:08
  So
• 44:09
  that's
• 44:09
  fantastic.
• 44:11
  Now,
• 44:11
  your
• 44:11
  writing
• 44:12
  process,
• 44:13
  and
• 44:13
  you
• 44:14
  talked
• 44:14
  about.
• 44:14
  You
• 44:14
  also
• 44:15
  do
• 44:15
  a
• 44:15
  newsletter
• 44:17
  and
• 44:17
  share
• 44:17
  some
• 44:18
  insights
• 44:18
  into
• 44:18
  your
• 44:19
  own
• 44:20
  writing
• 44:20
  development.
• 44:21
  Your
• 44:21
  writing
• 44:22
  process.
• 44:23
  I'm
• 44:23
  not
• 44:23
  sure
• 44:23
  if
• 44:23
  you're
• 44:23
  going
• 44:24
  to
• 44:24
  write
• 44:24
  another
• 44:24
  children's
• 44:25
  book,
• 44:25
  but
• 44:26
  just
• 44:26
  your
• 44:27
  overall
• 44:28
  writing
• 44:29
  process.
• 44:30
  Talk
• 44:30
  to
• 44:30
  us
• 44:30
  about
• 44:30
  that.
• 44:31
  The
• 44:32
  first
• 44:32
  step
• 44:32
  for
• 44:32
  me
• 44:33
  is
• 44:33
  to
• 44:33
  just
• 44:33
  get
• 44:33
  all
• 44:33
  my
• 44:34
  ideas
• 44:34
  out.
• 44:35
  When
• 44:35
  this
• 44:35
  idea
• 44:36
  came
• 44:36
  to
• 44:36
  me,
• 44:37
  this
• 44:37
  was
• 44:37
  right
• 44:38
  at
• 44:38
  the
• 44:38
  height
• 44:38
  of
• 44:38
  the
• 44:39
  COVID
• 44:39
  19
• 44:39
  pandemic.
• 44:41
  First
• 44:41
  thing
• 44:41
  I
• 44:42
  needed
• 44:42
  to
• 44:42
  do
• 44:42
  was
• 44:42
  just
• 44:43
  get
• 44:43
  a
• 44:43
  piece
• 44:43
  of
• 44:43
  paper.
• 44:44
  I
• 44:44
  journal
• 44:44
  often
• 44:44
  as
• 44:45
  well,
• 44:45
  and
• 44:46
  just
• 44:46
  get
• 44:46
  the
• 44:46
  story
• 44:47
  idea
• 44:47
  out.
• 44:47
  And
• 44:47
  it
• 44:48
  came
• 44:48
  to
• 44:48
  me
• 44:48
  organically.
• 44:49
  It
• 44:50
  wasn't
• 44:50
  something
• 44:50
  I
• 44:50
  was
• 44:50
  thinking
• 44:51
  about
• 44:51
  doing.
• 44:52
  So
• 44:52
  I
• 44:52
  get
• 44:52
  the
• 44:53
  story
• 44:53
  out
• 44:54
  after
• 44:54
  getting
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  story
• 44:55
  out.
• 44:56
  Okay,
• 44:56
  now
• 44:56
  what
• 44:57
  I
• 44:57
  need
• 44:57
  to
• 44:57
  do
• 44:58
  in
• 44:58
  this
• 44:59
  case,
• 44:59
  because
• 44:59
  it
• 45:00
  was
• 45:00
  something
• 45:00
  that.
• 45:01
  It
• 45:01
  was
• 45:01
  centered
• 45:01
  on
• 45:02
  family
• 45:02
  and
• 45:02
  a
• 45:02
  relationship
• 45:03
  between
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  brothers.
• 45:04
  I
• 45:04
  went
• 45:05
  to
• 45:05
  the
• 45:05
  source.
• 45:05
  I
• 45:05
  had
• 45:06
  a
• 45:06
  conversation
• 45:06
  with
• 45:06
  my
• 45:07
  own
• 45:07
  brother.
• 45:08
  Good
• 45:08
  for
• 45:09
  you.
• 45:09
  Talk
• 45:09
  to
• 45:09
  him
• 45:10
  and
• 45:10
  learn
• 45:10
  about
• 45:11
  his
• 45:11
  perspective.
• 45:12
  And
• 45:12
  it
• 45:12
  was
• 45:12
  a
• 45:13
  healing
• 45:13
  process
• 45:13
  for
• 45:14
  me
• 45:14
  because
• 45:14
  I
• 45:15
  learned
• 45:15
  his
• 45:15
  perspective
• 45:17
  on
• 45:17
  what
• 45:18
  life
• 45:18
  was
• 45:18
  like
• 45:18
  growing
• 45:19
  up.
• 45:19
  And
• 45:20
  I
• 45:20
  learned
• 45:20
  that
• 45:20
  we
• 45:20
  had
• 45:21
  a
• 45:21
  lot
• 45:21
  of
• 45:21
  the
• 45:21
  same
• 45:22
  perspectives.
• 45:23
  But
• 45:23
  then
• 45:24
  I
• 45:24
  learned.
• 45:24
  But
• 45:24
  you
• 45:24
  never
• 45:25
  had
• 45:25
  those
• 45:25
  conversations.
• 45:27
  Conversations
• 45:28
  before.
• 45:28
  Wow.
• 45:29
  Wow.
• 45:29
  And
• 45:30
  these
• 45:30
  were.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:30
  it's
• 45:31
  interesting,
• 45:31
  you
• 45:31
  can
• 45:31
  have
• 45:32
  five
• 45:32
  people,
• 45:33
  in
• 45:33
  our
• 45:33
  case,
• 45:34
  siblings,
• 45:35
  living
• 45:35
  in
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  house,
• 45:36
  sharing
• 45:37
  the
• 45:37
  same
• 45:37
  exact
• 45:38
  experience,
• 45:39
  but
• 45:39
  filtering
• 45:40
  it
• 45:40
  completely
• 45:41
  different.
• 45:43
  And
• 45:43
  so
• 45:43
  that
• 45:43
  was
• 45:44
  very
• 45:44
  helpful
• 45:44
  for
• 45:45
  me
• 45:45
  from
• 45:45
  a
• 45:46
  consulting
• 45:46
  standpoint,
• 45:47
  to
• 45:47
  get
• 45:47
  his
• 45:48
  ideals
• 45:49
  on
• 45:49
  some
• 45:50
  things
• 45:50
  that
• 45:50
  took
• 45:51
  place.
• 45:52
  And
• 45:52
  what
• 45:53
  a
• 45:53
  nice
• 45:53
  touch,
• 45:54
  because
• 45:54
  I'm
• 45:54
  not
• 45:54
  sure
• 45:54
  if
• 45:54
  I
• 45:54
  would
• 45:55
  have
• 45:55
  thought
• 45:55
  about
• 45:55
  that.
• 45:56
  And
• 45:56
  like
• 45:56
  you
• 45:56
  said,
• 45:57
  it
• 45:57
  didn't
• 45:58
  happen
• 45:58
  through
• 45:59
  your
• 45:59
  childhood.
• 46:00
  You
• 46:00
  had
• 46:00
  to
• 46:01
  become
• 46:01
  adults.
• 46:02
  And
• 46:02
  then
• 46:02
  all
• 46:02
  of
• 46:02
  a
• 46:02
  sudden,
• 46:03
  you
• 46:03
  have
• 46:03
  this
• 46:03
  spark
• 46:04
  of
• 46:04
  an
• 46:04
  idea
• 46:05
  in
• 46:05
  terms
• 46:05
  of
• 46:06
  writing
• 46:06
  a
• 46:06
  children's
• 46:06
  book
• 46:07
  and
• 46:07
  it
• 46:07
  creates
• 46:08
  this
• 46:08
  dialogue
• 46:09
  and
• 46:09
  it
• 46:09
  also
• 46:10
  proves
• 46:10
  that
• 46:11
  it's
• 46:11
  never
• 46:12
  too
• 46:12
  late
• 46:12
  in
• 46:13
  life
• 46:13
  to
• 46:14
  have
• 46:14
  the
• 46:14
  dialogue.
• 46:15
  That's
• 46:15
  true
• 46:15
  and
• 46:16
  that's
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  good
• 46:16
  point.
• 46:17
  And
• 46:17
  what
• 46:18
  I've
• 46:18
  learned
• 46:18
  about
• 46:18
  being
• 46:19
  in
• 46:19
  a
• 46:19
  blended
• 46:19
  family
• 46:20
  is
• 46:20
  this
• 46:20
  is
• 46:20
  one
• 46:20
  of
• 46:20
  the
• 46:21
  tips
• 46:21
  that
• 46:21
  I
• 46:21
  give
• 46:21
  people
• 46:22
  in
• 46:22
  a
• 46:22
  blended
• 46:23
  family,
• 46:23
  especially
• 46:23
  if
• 46:24
  you're
• 46:24
  planning
• 46:24
  something,
• 46:25
  be
• 46:26
  inclusive.
• 46:27
  Just
• 46:27
  be
• 46:28
  inclusive
• 46:28
  as
• 46:28
  much
• 46:28
  as
• 46:29
  possible
• 46:29
  so
• 46:30
  there's
• 46:30
  no
• 46:30
  surprises.
• 46:31
  And
• 46:32
  so
• 46:32
  in
• 46:32
  this
• 46:32
  way,
• 46:32
  part
• 46:33
  of
• 46:33
  my
• 46:33
  process,
• 46:33
  being
• 46:34
  inclusive
• 46:34
  by
• 46:35
  talking
• 46:35
  to
• 46:36
  my
• 46:36
  brother
• 46:36
  and
• 46:37
  letting
• 46:37
  him
• 46:37
  know
• 46:37
  this
• 46:37
  is
• 46:38
  what
• 46:38
  my
• 46:38
  idea
• 46:38
  is
• 46:39
  and
• 46:40
  leaving
• 46:41
  it
• 46:41
  open
• 46:41
  ended,
• 46:42
  how
• 46:42
  if
• 46:42
  he
• 46:42
  wanted
• 46:43
  to
• 46:43
  participate
• 46:44
  in
• 46:44
  any
• 46:44
  kind
• 46:45
  of
• 46:45
  way,
• 46:46
  he
• 46:46
  provided
• 46:46
  me
• 46:47
  with
• 46:47
  some
• 46:47
  his
• 46:48
  insight
• 46:48
  and
• 46:48
  his
• 46:49
  perspective,
• 46:49
  which
• 46:50
  really
• 46:50
  helped
• 46:50
  me
• 46:50
  with
• 46:51
  developing
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  voice
• 46:52
  of
• 46:52
  Michael,
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  younger
• 46:54
  brother.
• 46:54
  Getting
• 46:55
  the
• 46:55
  idea,
• 46:56
  doing
• 46:56
  the
• 46:56
  research
• 46:57
  as
• 46:57
  well.
• 46:58
  Then
• 46:59
  from
• 46:59
  there,
• 47:00
  when
• 47:00
  you
• 47:00
  say
• 47:01
  research,
• 47:01
  were
• 47:02
  you
• 47:02
  going
• 47:02
  to
• 47:02
  external
• 47:03
  sources
• 47:04
  to
• 47:04
  get
• 47:04
  more
• 47:05
  research
• 47:05
  or
• 47:06
  how
• 47:06
  were
• 47:06
  you
• 47:06
  doing
• 47:07
  your
• 47:07
  research?
• 47:08
  Yeah,
• 47:08
  so
• 47:09
  I
• 47:09
  was
• 47:09
  doing
• 47:09
  my
• 47:09
  research
• 47:10
  one
• 47:10
  by
• 47:11
  figuring
• 47:12
  out
• 47:12
  if
• 47:12
  this
• 47:12
  was
• 47:12
  something
• 47:13
  that
• 47:13
  already
• 47:13
  exists.
• 47:15
  And
• 47:15
  I
• 47:15
  found
• 47:15
  out
• 47:16
  that
• 47:16
  there
• 47:16
  were
• 47:16
  not
• 47:16
  stories
• 47:17
  that
• 47:18
  focus
• 47:18
  on
• 47:18
  blended
• 47:19
  families
• 47:20
  from
• 47:20
  this
• 47:20
  type
• 47:21
  of
• 47:21
  perspective
• 47:21
  of
• 47:22
  brotherhood,
• 47:23
  but
• 47:23
  also
• 47:24
  being
• 47:25
  raised
• 47:25
  by
• 47:25
  a
• 47:25
  single
• 47:26
  parent
• 47:26
  household
• 47:27
  as
• 47:27
  well.
• 47:28
  But
• 47:29
  then
• 47:29
  also
• 47:29
  too
• 47:29
  doing
• 47:30
  some
• 47:30
  self
• 47:30
  reflection,
• 47:32
  visiting
• 47:33
  some
• 47:33
  events
• 47:33
  in
• 47:34
  my
• 47:34
  own
• 47:34
  childhood
• 47:35
  as
• 47:35
  well
• 47:36
  too,
• 47:36
  and
• 47:37
  having
• 47:37
  some
• 47:38
  heavy
• 47:38
  conversations
• 47:38
  with
• 47:39
  my
• 47:39
  own
• 47:39
  parents
• 47:40
  we
• 47:40
  had
• 47:41
  never
• 47:41
  had
• 47:42
  growing
• 47:42
  up.
• 47:43
  And
• 47:44
  so
• 47:45
  that
• 47:45
  was
• 47:45
  the
• 47:45
  type
• 47:46
  of
• 47:46
  research
• 47:46
  that
• 47:46
  I
• 47:46
  was
• 47:47
  doing.
• 47:47
  And
• 47:48
  then
• 47:48
  from
• 47:48
  there
• 47:49
  just
• 47:50
  getting
• 47:50
  the
• 47:50
  story
• 47:50
  out,
• 47:51
  doing
• 47:51
  the
• 47:52
  research,
• 47:52
  talking
• 47:52
  to
• 47:53
  my
• 47:53
  brother,
• 47:54
  now
• 47:55
  developing
• 47:55
  an
• 47:55
  outline.
• 47:56
  So
• 47:56
  then
• 47:57
  I
• 47:57
  develop,
• 47:57
  I
• 47:58
  wrote
• 47:58
  out
• 47:58
  an
• 47:58
  outline
• 47:59
  on
• 48:00
  what
• 48:00
  the
• 48:00
  story
• 48:00
  are,
• 48:01
  what
• 48:02
  the
• 48:02
  ending's
• 48:02
  going
• 48:02
  to
• 48:02
  be.
• 48:03
  And
• 48:03
  then
• 48:04
  unfortunately,
• 48:05
  but
• 48:05
  fortunately
• 48:06
  I
• 48:06
  ended
• 48:06
  up
• 48:07
  losing
• 48:07
  my
• 48:07
  job,
• 48:08
  getting
• 48:08
  terminated
• 48:09
  due
• 48:10
  to
• 48:10
  downsizing.
• 48:11
  Now
• 48:12
  I
• 48:12
  had
• 48:12
  time
• 48:13
  and
• 48:13
  I
• 48:13
  told
• 48:14
  myself,
• 48:14
  I'm
• 48:15
  going
• 48:15
  to
• 48:15
  write
• 48:15
  this
• 48:16
  story.
• 48:16
  So
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  then
• 48:17
  devoted
• 48:18
  time
• 48:18
  to
• 48:19
  every
• 48:19
  day,
• 48:19
  every
• 48:20
  morning
• 48:20
  for
• 48:20
  about
• 48:21
  a
• 48:21
  month,
• 48:22
  writing
• 48:22
  the
• 48:23
  story,
• 48:23
  using
• 48:24
  my
• 48:24
  outline,
• 48:25
  changing
• 48:25
  things
• 48:26
  up
• 48:26
  as
• 48:26
  well.
• 48:27
  Then
• 48:28
  going
• 48:28
  to
• 48:29
  my
• 48:29
  trusted
• 48:30
  advisors,
• 48:31
  my
• 48:32
  wife
• 48:32
  and
• 48:32
  my
• 48:33
  daughters,
• 48:34
  my
• 48:34
  oldest
• 48:35
  more
• 48:35
  specifically,
• 48:36
  who
• 48:37
  is
• 48:37
  an
• 48:37
  avid
• 48:38
  reader
• 48:39
  and
• 48:39
  she
• 48:39
  reads
• 48:40
  books
• 48:40
  such
• 48:40
  as
• 48:41
  Diary
• 48:41
  of
• 48:41
  a
• 48:42
  Wimpy
• 48:42
  Kid.
• 48:43
  I
• 48:44
  had
• 48:44
  her
• 48:44
  read
• 48:44
  it
• 48:45
  and
• 48:45
  she
• 48:46
  was
• 48:46
  giggling
• 48:46
  and
• 48:47
  laughing
• 48:47
  the
• 48:47
  whole
• 48:48
  time.
• 48:48
  And
• 48:49
  then
• 48:49
  she
• 48:49
  wrote
• 48:49
  me
• 48:50
  out
• 48:50
  a
• 48:50
  note
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  she
• 48:51
  said
• 48:51
  that
• 48:51
  great
• 48:52
  book,
• 48:52
  dad,
• 48:52
  you're
• 48:53
  going
• 48:53
  to
• 48:53
  be
• 48:53
  a
• 48:53
  published
• 48:55
  author.
• 48:57
  She
• 48:58
  was
• 48:58
  8,
• 48:58
  9
• 48:58
  years
• 48:59
  old
• 48:59
  at
• 48:59
  the
• 48:59
  time,
• 48:59
  misspelled
• 49:00
  published.
• 49:01
  I
• 49:01
  don't
• 49:01
  know
• 49:01
  if.
• 49:02
  But
• 49:02
  she's
• 49:02
  so
• 49:02
  creative
• 49:03
  she
• 49:03
  might
• 49:03
  have
• 49:03
  did
• 49:03
  it
• 49:04
  on
• 49:04
  purpose.
• 49:05
  And
• 49:05
  she
• 49:05
  spelled
• 49:05
  it
• 49:06
  published.
• 49:07
  And
• 49:07
  so
• 49:08
  that's
• 49:08
  how
• 49:08
  I
• 49:08
  came
• 49:08
  up
• 49:08
  with
• 49:09
  the
• 49:09
  line
• 49:09
  Publix.
• 49:10
  I
• 49:10
  love
• 49:10
  it.
• 49:11
  I
• 49:11
  love
• 49:11
  it.
• 49:12
  I
• 49:12
  want
• 49:12
  you
• 49:12
  to
• 49:13
  think
• 49:13
  about
• 49:14
  success
• 49:15
  in
• 49:16
  a
• 49:16
  couple
• 49:16
  of
• 49:16
  ways.
• 49:17
  So
• 49:17
  I'd
• 49:17
  like
• 49:18
  you
• 49:18
  to
• 49:18
  think
• 49:18
  about
• 49:19
  how
• 49:19
  did
• 49:19
  you
• 49:20
  envision
• 49:21
  your
• 49:21
  children's
• 49:22
  book
• 49:22
  writing
• 49:22
  success
• 49:23
  prior
• 49:24
  to
• 49:24
  publishing
• 49:25
  your
• 49:25
  book
• 49:26
  and
• 49:26
  then
• 49:26
  once
• 49:27
  you
• 49:27
  published
• 49:27
  your
• 49:28
  book,
• 49:28
  what
• 49:29
  was
• 49:29
  the
• 49:29
  biggest
• 49:30
  difference
• 49:30
  in
• 49:32
  what
• 49:32
  success
• 49:32
  turned
• 49:33
  out
• 49:33
  to
• 49:33
  be
• 49:34
  or
• 49:34
  is
• 49:35
  turning
• 49:35
  out
• 49:35
  to
• 49:35
  be?
• 49:36
  Yes,
• 49:37
  this
• 49:37
  is
• 49:38
  interesting
• 49:38
  because
• 49:38
  I
• 49:39
  tend
• 49:39
  to
• 49:39
  underestimate
• 49:41
  what
• 49:41
  I'm
• 49:41
  doing
• 49:41
  and
• 49:42
  how
• 49:42
  I'm
• 49:42
  going
• 49:42
  to
• 49:42
  do
• 49:42
  it.
• 49:43
  So
• 49:43
  initially
• 49:44
  it
• 49:44
  was
• 49:45
  success
• 49:45
  was,
• 49:46
  hey,
• 49:47
  I
• 49:47
  put
• 49:47
  out
• 49:47
  a
• 49:48
  book.
• 49:50
  Yeah,
• 49:50
  I
• 49:51
  wrote
• 49:51
  it.
• 49:51
  I
• 49:52
  didn't
• 49:52
  know
• 49:52
  how
• 49:52
  I
• 49:52
  was
• 49:52
  going
• 49:53
  to
• 49:53
  put
• 49:53
  it
• 49:53
  out,
• 49:53
  but
• 49:54
  I'll
• 49:54
  just
• 49:55
  make
• 49:55
  it
• 49:55
  available
• 49:56
  on
• 49:56
  Amazon
• 49:57
  or
• 49:57
  something.
• 49:57
  That's
• 49:58
  part.
• 49:58
  That
• 49:58
  was
• 49:58
  part
• 49:58
  of
• 49:58
  my
• 49:58
  research
• 49:59
  process
• 49:59
  as
• 50:00
  well,
• 50:00
  too.
• 50:00
  Understanding
• 50:01
  those
• 50:01
  different.
• 50:03
  The
• 50:03
  different
• 50:03
  journeys.
• 50:04
  But
• 50:05
  put
• 50:05
  it
• 50:06
  out
• 50:06
  there
• 50:06
  whether
• 50:06
  I
• 50:07
  sell
• 50:07
  one
• 50:07
  or
• 50:07
  two.
• 50:07
  Oh,
• 50:08
  I'm
• 50:08
  a
• 50:08
  published
• 50:08
  author.
• 50:10
  But
• 50:10
  then
• 50:11
  throughout
• 50:11
  the
• 50:11
  process,
• 50:13
  understanding
• 50:14
  that
• 50:15
  the
• 50:16
  vehicle
• 50:19
  really
• 50:20
  meant
• 50:20
  to
• 50:21
  be
• 50:22
  larger
• 50:22
  than
• 50:23
  I
• 50:24
  anticipated,
• 50:25
  than
• 50:25
  just
• 50:25
  writing
• 50:26
  the
• 50:26
  book.
• 50:27
  Right.
• 50:28
  Because
• 50:28
  of
• 50:29
  who
• 50:29
  it
• 50:29
  serves,
• 50:30
  the
• 50:30
  mission,
• 50:30
  and
• 50:31
  the
• 50:31
  purpose
• 50:31
  behind
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  book,
• 50:33
  I
• 50:33
  have
• 50:34
  to
• 50:34
  be
• 50:34
  open
• 50:34
  to
• 50:35
  doing
• 50:35
  more
• 50:35
  with
• 50:36
  it.
• 50:37
  And
• 50:37
  so
• 50:37
  now
• 50:37
  it's
• 50:38
  been
• 50:38
  really
• 50:38
  driving
• 50:39
  itself
• 50:39
  from
• 50:40
  a
• 50:40
  standpoint,
• 50:40
  from
• 50:41
  a
• 50:41
  business
• 50:41
  perspective,
• 50:42
  being
• 50:43
  paid
• 50:43
  to
• 50:43
  do
• 50:44
  speaking
• 50:44
  engagements,
• 50:45
  readings
• 50:46
  and
• 50:47
  workshops,
• 50:48
  and
• 50:49
  just
• 50:49
  showing
• 50:50
  up
• 50:51
  as
• 50:51
  someone
• 50:52
  who
• 50:53
  authentically
• 50:53
  cares
• 50:54
  about
• 50:54
  blended
• 50:55
  family.
• 50:55
  I'm
• 50:56
  glad
• 50:56
  you're
• 50:56
  sharing
• 50:57
  that,
• 50:57
  Brandon,
• 50:57
  because
• 50:58
  the
• 50:58
  biggest
• 50:58
  thing
• 50:58
  is
• 50:59
  you're
• 51:00
  my
• 51:00
  85th
• 51:02
  children's
• 51:02
  book
• 51:02
  author
• 51:03
  that
• 51:03
  I've
• 51:03
  interviewed.
• 51:04
  And
• 51:04
  the
• 51:05
  thing
• 51:05
  that
• 51:05
  I'm
• 51:05
  finding
• 51:06
  is
• 51:06
  your
• 51:07
  book
• 51:07
  cannot
• 51:07
  be
• 51:07
  a
• 51:08
  standalone
• 51:08
  on
• 51:09
  its
• 51:09
  own.
• 51:09
  You
• 51:10
  need
• 51:10
  to
• 51:10
  support
• 51:10
  it
• 51:11
  through
• 51:11
  ideas
• 51:12
  like
• 51:12
  you're
• 51:13
  sharing
• 51:13
  with
• 51:13
  us.
• 51:13
  And
• 51:14
  that's
• 51:14
  what
• 51:14
  I'm
• 51:14
  hoping
• 51:15
  aspiring
• 51:16
  children's
• 51:16
  book
• 51:17
  authors
• 51:17
  understand,
• 51:18
  like
• 51:18
  Brandon
• 51:19
  said.
• 51:19
  And
• 51:19
  listen,
• 51:20
  we
• 51:20
  went
• 51:20
  through
• 51:20
  the
• 51:20
  same
• 51:21
  thing.
• 51:21
  You
• 51:21
  get
• 51:21
  on
• 51:22
  Amazon,
• 51:22
  you
• 51:23
  say,
• 51:23
  I'm
• 51:24
  a
• 51:24
  published
• 51:24
  children's
• 51:25
  book
• 51:25
  authority,
• 51:26
  and
• 51:26
  then
• 51:27
  you
• 51:27
  go,
• 51:28
  okay,
• 51:28
  but
• 51:28
  now
• 51:29
  what?
• 51:29
  No.
• 51:29
  So,
• 51:30
  yeah,
• 51:31
  and
• 51:31
  I'm
• 51:31
  glad
• 51:31
  you're
• 51:32
  sharing
• 51:32
  that
• 51:32
  with
• 51:32
  us
• 51:33
  and
• 51:33
  how
• 51:33
  you're
• 51:33
  building
• 51:34
  out
• 51:34
  your
• 51:35
  children's
• 51:35
  book
• 51:35
  business
• 51:36
  from
• 51:37
  the
• 51:37
  one
• 51:37
  book
• 51:38
  that
• 51:38
  can
• 51:38
  grow
• 51:39
  into
• 51:39
  speaking
• 51:40
  events
• 51:41
  and
• 51:42
  curriculum
• 51:43
  and
• 51:43
  all
• 51:44
  the
• 51:44
  stuff
• 51:44
  that
• 51:44
  you're
• 51:44
  talking
• 51:45
  about,
• 51:45
  it's
• 51:45
  just
• 51:45
  fantastic.
• 51:46
  So
• 51:47
  thank
• 51:47
  you
• 51:47
  for
• 51:47
  sharing
• 51:48
  that
• 51:49
  advice
• 51:50
  for
• 51:52
  aspiring
• 51:53
  authors.
• 51:54
  What
• 51:54
  would
• 51:54
  you
• 51:55
  say
• 51:55
  to
• 51:56
  someone
• 51:56
  who's
• 51:56
  got
• 51:57
  this
• 51:57
  nugget
• 51:58
  of
• 51:58
  an
• 51:58
  idea,
• 51:59
  but
• 51:59
  they
• 52:00
  just
• 52:00
  don't
• 52:00
  know
• 52:00
  how
• 52:01
  to
• 52:01
  go
• 52:01
  about
• 52:02
  getting
• 52:02
  their
• 52:03
  book
• 52:03
  published?
• 52:05
  My
• 52:05
  slogan,
• 52:05
  do.
• 52:06
  If
• 52:06
  you're
• 52:06
  going
• 52:06
  to
• 52:07
  write,
• 52:07
  you
• 52:07
  want
• 52:07
  to
• 52:07
  be
• 52:07
  an
• 52:08
  author,
• 52:08
  what
• 52:09
  do
• 52:09
  you
• 52:09
  have
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  do
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  be
• 52:10
  an
• 52:10
  author?
• 52:10
  You
• 52:11
  have
• 52:11
  to
• 52:11
  write.
• 52:12
  And
• 52:13
  so
• 52:13
  that's
• 52:13
  the
• 52:13
  first
• 52:13
  Process,
• 52:14
  whether
• 52:15
  you're
• 52:15
  jotting
• 52:16
  down
• 52:16
  your
• 52:16
  creative
• 52:17
  idea
• 52:17
  and
• 52:18
  just
• 52:18
  getting
• 52:18
  it
• 52:18
  out
• 52:18
  of
• 52:19
  you,
• 52:20
  then
• 52:20
  I
• 52:20
  would
• 52:20
  say
• 52:22
  be
• 52:22
  consistent,
• 52:24
  give
• 52:24
  yourself
• 52:25
  a
• 52:25
  schedule,
• 52:26
  promise
• 52:26
  yourself
• 52:27
  and
• 52:27
  commit
• 52:27
  to
• 52:27
  it.
• 52:28
  And
• 52:28
  say,
• 52:28
  like
• 52:29
  I
• 52:29
  did,
• 52:29
  I'm
• 52:30
  going
• 52:30
  to
• 52:32
  be
• 52:32
  a
• 52:32
  published
• 52:33
  author.
• 52:33
  I'm
• 52:33
  going
• 52:34
  to
• 52:34
  finish
• 52:34
  this
• 52:35
  book.
• 52:36
  And
• 52:36
  Brandon,
• 52:37
  how
• 52:37
  are
• 52:37
  you
• 52:37
  going
• 52:37
  to
• 52:37
  finish
• 52:38
  this
• 52:38
  book?
• 52:39
  You
• 52:39
  know,
• 52:39
  by
• 52:39
  setting
• 52:40
  specific
• 52:40
  goals,
• 52:41
  by
• 52:41
  creating
• 52:42
  smart
• 52:42
  goals.
• 52:42
  I
• 52:43
  have
• 52:43
  a
• 52:43
  project
• 52:43
  management
• 52:44
  background
• 52:44
  too.
• 52:45
  Smart
• 52:45
  dogs
• 52:46
  behavior,
• 52:46
  being
• 52:46
  specific,
• 52:47
  being
• 52:48
  measurable,
• 52:48
  is
• 52:49
  it
• 52:49
  attainable?
• 52:50
  How
• 52:50
  relevant
• 52:51
  is
• 52:51
  it
• 52:52
  putting
• 52:52
  the
• 52:52
  time
• 52:53
  step
• 52:53
  as
• 52:53
  to
• 52:53
  when
• 52:54
  this
• 52:54
  is
• 52:54
  going
• 52:54
  to
• 52:54
  happen?
• 52:55
  Of
• 52:55
  course,
• 52:56
  it
• 52:56
  didn't
• 52:56
  happen
• 52:56
  when
• 52:57
  I
• 52:57
  had
• 52:57
  as
• 52:57
  far
• 52:57
  as
• 52:58
  being
• 52:58
  published,
• 52:58
  didn't
• 52:59
  happen
• 52:59
  when
• 52:59
  I
• 53:00
  wanted
• 53:00
  it
• 53:00
  to
• 53:00
  happen.
• 53:01
  Right.
• 53:01
  But
• 53:02
  I
• 53:02
  set
• 53:02
  a
• 53:02
  goal
• 53:03
  and
• 53:03
  I
• 53:04
  stayed
• 53:04
  consistent
• 53:05
  with
• 53:05
  it
• 53:06
  and
• 53:06
  kept
• 53:06
  feeding
• 53:07
  that
• 53:07
  goal.
• 53:08
  And
• 53:08
  as
• 53:09
  you
• 53:09
  go
• 53:09
  along
• 53:09
  the
• 53:10
  way,
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  hunger,
• 53:12
  the
• 53:12
  homework
• 53:12
  continues
• 53:13
  to
• 53:13
  grow
• 53:13
  in
• 53:14
  you.
• 53:14
  But
• 53:14
  now
• 53:15
  you're
• 53:15
  finding
• 53:15
  and
• 53:16
  you're
• 53:16
  learning
• 53:16
  about
• 53:17
  different
• 53:17
  things.
• 53:18
  It
• 53:18
  goes
• 53:18
  from
• 53:18
  I
• 53:19
  just
• 53:19
  want
• 53:19
  to
• 53:19
  publish
• 53:19
  a
• 53:20
  book
• 53:20
  to
• 53:20
  now,
• 53:20
  oh,
• 53:21
  I
• 53:21
  can
• 53:21
  actually
• 53:22
  become
• 53:22
  maybe
• 53:23
  a
• 53:23
  traditional
• 53:23
  published
• 53:24
  author
• 53:25
  and
• 53:25
  maybe
• 53:25
  I
• 53:26
  can
• 53:26
  create
• 53:26
  a
• 53:26
  merchandising
• 53:28
  brand
• 53:29
  out
• 53:29
  of.
• 53:29
  Oh,
• 53:30
  I
• 53:30
  can
• 53:30
  really
• 53:31
  speak
• 53:31
  and
• 53:31
  do
• 53:32
  these
• 53:32
  other
• 53:32
  things
• 53:32
  as
• 53:33
  well
• 53:33
  too
• 53:34
  because
• 53:34
  of
• 53:35
  consistency
• 53:36
  and
• 53:36
  continue.
• 53:37
  And
• 53:37
  to
• 53:37
  your
• 53:37
  point,
• 53:37
  your
• 53:38
  book
• 53:38
  definitely
• 53:39
  fills
• 53:40
  a
• 53:40
  void
• 53:40
  that
• 53:41
  more
• 53:41
  and
• 53:41
  more
• 53:41
  people
• 53:42
  are
• 53:42
  looking
• 53:42
  for
• 53:43
  someone
• 53:43
  to
• 53:44
  come
• 53:44
  in
• 53:44
  and
• 53:44
  speak
• 53:44
  to
• 53:45
  them.
• 53:45
  What
• 53:45
  keeps
• 53:46
  you
• 53:46
  going,
• 53:47
  Brandon,
• 53:48
  as
• 53:48
  a
• 53:48
  children's
• 53:49
  book
• 53:49
  author?
• 53:50
  What
• 53:51
  keeps
• 53:51
  me
• 53:51
  going
• 53:51
  as
• 53:52
  a
• 53:52
  children's
• 53:52
  book
• 53:52
  author
• 53:53
  is
• 53:55
  the
• 53:55
  purpose
• 53:55
  and
• 53:55
  the
• 53:55
  mission
• 53:56
  of
• 53:56
  the
• 53:56
  book.
• 53:57
  Also
• 53:59
  being
• 53:59
  self
• 54:00
  aware
• 54:01
  of
• 54:01
  who
• 54:01
  I
• 54:02
  am
• 54:03
  and
• 54:03
  what
• 54:03
  brings
• 54:03
  me
• 54:04
  joy
• 54:05
  and
• 54:05
  that
• 54:05
  is
• 54:06
  creating
• 54:08
  that
• 54:08
  is
• 54:08
  family.
• 54:10
  And
• 54:11
  at
• 54:11
  the
• 54:11
  end
• 54:11
  of
• 54:11
  the
• 54:11
  day,
• 54:11
  I
• 54:12
  believe
• 54:12
  that
• 54:14
  time
• 54:14
  is
• 54:14
  of
• 54:14
  the
• 54:14
  essence.
• 54:15
  We're
• 54:15
  all
• 54:15
  on
• 54:15
  borrowing
• 54:16
  time
• 54:17
  and
• 54:19
  having
• 54:19
  the
• 54:19
  vision
• 54:20
  to
• 54:20
  be
• 54:20
  what
• 54:20
  you
• 54:21
  want
• 54:21
  to
• 54:21
  be
• 54:22
  is
• 54:22
  one
• 54:22
  thing,
• 54:23
  but
• 54:23
  actually
• 54:24
  doing
• 54:24
  something
• 54:24
  about
• 54:24
  it
• 54:25
  is
• 54:25
  another.
• 54:26
  So
• 54:26
  that's
• 54:26
  what
• 54:27
  keeps
• 54:27
  me
• 54:27
  going.
• 54:27
  Also
• 54:28
  knowing
• 54:28
  that
• 54:29
  I
• 54:29
  have
• 54:29
  children
• 54:30
  who
• 54:30
  look
• 54:30
  up
• 54:31
  at
• 54:31
  me
• 54:31
  as
• 54:31
  a
• 54:31
  leader
• 54:32
  and
• 54:32
  they
• 54:33
  may
• 54:33
  have
• 54:34
  similar
• 54:34
  aspirations,
• 54:35
  but
• 54:36
  knowing
• 54:36
  that
• 54:36
  they
• 54:36
  can
• 54:36
  go
• 54:37
  through
• 54:37
  this
• 54:37
  journey
• 54:37
  with
• 54:38
  me
• 54:38
  when
• 54:39
  I'm
• 54:39
  doing
• 54:39
  a
• 54:39
  book
• 54:39
  signing,
• 54:40
  they're
• 54:40
  right
• 54:40
  there.
• 54:41
  Terrific.
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  know
• 54:43
  you
• 54:43
  talked
• 54:43
  about
• 54:43
  your
• 54:44
  brother
• 54:44
  Chris
• 54:44
  being
• 54:45
  part
• 54:45
  of
• 54:45
  your
• 54:45
  inspiration,
• 54:46
  but
• 54:46
  I
• 54:46
  forgot
• 54:47
  to
• 54:47
  ask
• 54:47
  you.
• 54:47
  So
• 54:48
  when
• 54:48
  you
• 54:48
  gave
• 54:49
  him
• 54:49
  a
• 54:49
  copy
• 54:50
  of
• 54:50
  the
• 54:50
  book,
• 54:51
  what
• 54:51
  was
• 54:52
  his
• 54:52
  reaction?
• 54:54
  You
• 54:54
  know
• 54:54
  what?
• 54:54
  He
• 54:55
  actually
• 54:56
  gave
• 54:56
  me
• 54:56
  some
• 54:57
  good
• 54:57
  feedback
• 54:58
  early
• 54:58
  on
• 54:59
  about
• 54:59
  the
• 55:00
  book.
• 55:00
  He
• 55:00
  wanted
• 55:00
  to
• 55:01
  make
• 55:01
  sure
• 55:01
  that
• 55:02
  I'm
• 55:02
  thinking
• 55:02
  about
• 55:03
  the
• 55:03
  impact
• 55:03
  of
• 55:04
  the
• 55:04
  book
• 55:05
  and
• 55:05
  who
• 55:05
  is
• 55:05
  going
• 55:06
  to
• 55:06
  serve.
• 55:07
  I
• 55:08
  think
• 55:08
  he
• 55:08
  probably
• 55:08
  wanted
• 55:09
  it
• 55:10
  to
• 55:10
  be
• 55:10
  a
• 55:10
  little
• 55:11
  bit
• 55:11
  more
• 55:11
  older,
• 55:12
  skewed,
• 55:13
  but
• 55:13
  I
• 55:14
  told
• 55:14
  him
• 55:14
  more
• 55:14
  so
• 55:14
  about
• 55:15
  the
• 55:15
  vision.
• 55:16
  But
• 55:16
  afterwards
• 55:17
  he
• 55:17
  liked
• 55:18
  it
• 55:18
  he
• 55:18
  liked
• 55:19
  the
• 55:19
  illustration
• 55:19
  and
• 55:20
  that's
• 55:20
  the
• 55:20
  thing
• 55:20
  too
• 55:20
  my
• 55:20
  role
• 55:21
  that
• 55:21
  he's
• 55:21
  an
• 55:21
  artist.
• 55:22
  He
• 55:22
  knows
• 55:22
  how
• 55:23
  to
• 55:23
  draw
• 55:23
  and
• 55:23
  he
• 55:24
  been
• 55:24
  one
• 55:24
  of
• 55:24
  the
• 55:25
  best
• 55:25
  artists
• 55:26
  that
• 55:26
  I've
• 55:26
  ever
• 55:26
  experienced
• 55:27
  or
• 55:27
  known.
• 55:28
  But
• 55:28
  he's
• 55:29
  not
• 55:29
  an
• 55:29
  illustrator.
• 55:30
  But
• 55:31
  he
• 55:31
  gave
• 55:32
  me
• 55:32
  some
• 55:32
  positive
• 55:33
  feedback
• 55:34
  and
• 55:34
  also
• 55:35
  some
• 55:35
  great
• 55:36
  pointers
• 55:36
  as
• 55:36
  well
• 55:37
  too
• 55:37
  along
• 55:38
  the
• 55:38
  journey.
• 55:38
  That's
• 55:39
  terrific
• 55:40
  encouragement
• 55:41
  for
• 55:41
  readers.
• 55:43
  Why
• 55:43
  should
• 55:44
  children's
• 55:45
  book
• 55:45
  readers
• 55:45
  purchase
• 55:46
  your
• 55:46
  book?
• 55:47
  Children
• 55:48
  book
• 55:48
  readers
• 55:49
  should
• 55:49
  purchase
• 55:49
  my
• 55:50
  book
• 55:50
  because
• 55:51
  it's
• 55:52
  a
• 55:52
  story
• 55:52
  that
• 55:53
  has
• 55:53
  characters
• 55:54
  that
• 55:55
  I
• 55:56
  believe
• 55:56
  resonates
• 55:57
  with
• 55:57
  them.
• 55:59
  It's
• 55:59
  a
• 55:59
  story
• 56:00
  that
• 56:01
  is
• 56:02
  essential
• 56:02
  to
• 56:03
  their
• 56:04
  own
• 56:04
  childhood
• 56:05
  development.
• 56:06
  Understanding
• 56:07
  what
• 56:07
  love
• 56:07
  looks
• 56:08
  like,
• 56:09
  the
• 56:09
  different
• 56:09
  forms.
• 56:10
  Also
• 56:11
  understanding
• 56:12
  of
• 56:13
  healing
• 56:14
  and
• 56:14
  connection
• 56:16
  and
• 56:16
  emotional
• 56:17
  attachment
• 56:17
  and
• 56:18
  the
• 56:18
  benefits
• 56:18
  of
• 56:19
  that.
• 56:20
  You
• 56:20
  buy
• 56:20
  my
• 56:21
  book
• 56:22
  for
• 56:23
  what
• 56:23
  the
• 56:23
  child
• 56:25
  could
• 56:25
  become,
• 56:26
  for
• 56:26
  what
• 56:26
  you
• 56:27
  want
• 56:27
  him
• 56:27
  or
• 56:27
  her
• 56:28
  to
• 56:28
  become.
• 56:29
  It's
• 56:29
  more
• 56:30
  than
• 56:30
  just
• 56:30
  a
• 56:30
  story
• 56:30
  to
• 56:31
  entertain.
• 56:32
  It's
• 56:32
  a
• 56:32
  story
• 56:33
  to
• 56:33
  grow
• 56:34
  our
• 56:35
  boys
• 56:35
  and
• 56:35
  our
• 56:36
  girls
• 56:37
  to
• 56:38
  healthy
• 56:38
  leaders
• 56:40
  tomorrow,
• 56:41
  which
• 56:41
  equates
• 56:42
  to
• 56:44
  healthy
• 56:44
  families.
• 56:45
  We
• 56:45
  was
• 56:45
  Danny
• 56:46
  qua
• 56:46
  to
• 56:47
  better
• 56:47
  communities.
• 56:49
  Final
• 56:49
  Thoughts
• 56:50
  Brandon,
• 56:51
  is
• 56:51
  there
• 56:52
  anything
• 56:52
  that
• 56:52
  you
• 56:52
  say?
• 56:53
  Geez,
• 56:53
  I
• 56:53
  wish
• 56:53
  Rick
• 56:54
  would
• 56:54
  have
• 56:54
  asked
• 56:54
  me
• 56:55
  that.
• 56:56
  Final
• 56:56
  Thoughts
• 56:58
  I
• 56:58
  wish
• 57:00
  that
• 57:02
  you
• 57:02
  would
• 57:02
  have
• 57:02
  asked
• 57:03
  me
• 57:04
  about
• 57:04
  the
• 57:05
  psychology
• 57:07
  of
• 57:07
  the
• 57:07
  writing
• 57:08
  process,
• 57:11
  the
• 57:11
  roller
• 57:11
  coaster
• 57:13
  that
• 57:14
  you
• 57:14
  can
• 57:14
  go
• 57:15
  throughout
• 57:15
  the
• 57:15
  journey.
• 57:17
  From
• 57:17
  a
• 57:17
  mental
• 57:18
  standpoint,
• 57:20
  writing
• 57:21
  is
• 57:21
  something
• 57:22
  that
• 57:22
  is
• 57:22
  very
• 57:22
  scary
• 57:23
  to
• 57:23
  some
• 57:23
  people
• 57:25
  because
• 57:25
  it
• 57:25
  reveals
• 57:26
  a
• 57:26
  lot
• 57:26
  of
• 57:27
  your
• 57:27
  internal
• 57:28
  rather
• 57:29
  it's
• 57:29
  some
• 57:29
  brokenness.
• 57:30
  Would
• 57:30
  you
• 57:30
  say
• 57:31
  it
• 57:31
  helped
• 57:31
  your
• 57:32
  mental
• 57:32
  health?
• 57:33
  Most
• 57:33
  definitely
• 57:34
  it
• 57:34
  did.
• 57:34
  Yeah.
• 57:35
  I
• 57:35
  was
• 57:35
  healing
• 57:36
  in
• 57:36
  the
• 57:36
  process
• 57:37
  during
• 57:38
  really
• 57:38
  going
• 57:38
  through
• 57:39
  all
• 57:39
  those
• 57:40
  adjustments
• 57:41
  in
• 57:41
  life.
• 57:41
  I
• 57:42
  had
• 57:42
  author
• 57:42
  on
• 57:43
  who
• 57:43
  wrote
• 57:43
  a
• 57:43
  book
• 57:43
  on
• 57:43
  a
• 57:44
  Chickadee
• 57:45
  and
• 57:45
  amber
• 57:46
  Mitchell
• 57:46
  episode
• 57:47
  32.
• 57:47
  Said
• 57:48
  writing
• 57:48
  that
• 57:49
  children's
• 57:49
  book
• 57:50
  helped
• 57:50
  her
• 57:50
  mental
• 57:50
  health
• 57:51
  immensely.
• 57:52
  Thank
• 57:52
  you
• 57:52
  for
• 57:53
  sharing
• 57:53
  that.
• 57:54
  Brandon.
• 57:55
  Thank
• 57:55
  you
• 57:55
  for
• 57:55
  being
• 57:56
  a
• 57:56
  guest
• 57:56
  on
• 57:56
  the
• 57:56
  Adventures
• 57:57
  in
• 57:57
  the
• 57:57
  Heart
• 57:57
  of
• 57:58
  Children's
• 57:58
  Book
• 57:58
  Authors
• 57:59
  podcast.
• 57:59
  Your
• 58:00
  generosity
• 58:00
  of
• 58:01
  time
• 58:01
  and
• 58:02
  your
• 58:02
  insights.
• 58:03
  You
• 58:03
  certainly
• 58:04
  gave
• 58:05
  us
• 58:05
  a
• 58:05
  lot
• 58:05
  of
• 58:05
  insights
• 58:06
  into
• 58:06
  the
• 58:06
  whole
• 58:07
  children's
• 58:08
  book
• 58:08
  writing
• 58:09
  process
• 58:09
  and
• 58:10
  publishing
• 58:11
  and
• 58:11
  it'll
• 58:11
  significantly
• 58:12
  benefit
• 58:13
  not
• 58:13
  only
• 58:14
  aspiring
• 58:14
  authors,
• 58:15
  but
• 58:15
  readers.
• 58:16
  And
• 58:16
  we
• 58:16
  promise
• 58:17
  to
• 58:18
  provide
• 58:18
  our
• 58:18
  audience
• 58:19
  with
• 58:20
  links
• 58:20
  to
• 58:20
  Brandon's
• 58:21
  social
• 58:21
  media,
• 58:22
  his
• 58:22
  website
• 58:23
  and
• 58:23
  his
• 58:23
  book.
• 58:24
  And
• 58:24
  if
• 58:24
  you've
• 58:25
  enjoyed
• 58:25
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• 58:36
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• 58:37
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• 58:37
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• 58:38
  Brandon
• 58:39
  and
• 58:39
  his
• 58:40
  children's
• 58:41
  book.
• 58:41
  Oh
• 58:42
  brother.
• 58:42
  My
• 58:42
  brother.
• 58:44
  Thank
• 58:44
  you,
• 58:44
  Brandon.
• 58:45
  Thank
• 58:45
  you
• 58:45
  for
• 58:45
  having
• 58:46
  me.
• 58:46
  I
• 58:46
  appreciate
• 58:46
  it.