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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Judge Napolitano · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505-F55KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday. Happy Veterans Day. Call
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Loggins because you're in the danger zone.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas right here. Glad to be host of the
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  Speaker 1: 55KRC Morning Show and glad to have Joe Strecker, executive
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  Speaker 1: producer of the 55KRC Morning Show, being executive producer of
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  Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show and getting a lineup going up
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  Speaker 1: this morning. It is Wednesday, which means a big picture
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  Speaker 1: with Jack Atherton. Good morning, Jack. Coming up at 7.05.
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  Speaker 1: No idea what this means, which is why we have
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  Speaker 1: Jack Atherton to explain it every week. Groucho and the
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  Speaker 1: national debt. Presumably Groucho Marx. There's any reference to Karl
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  Speaker 1: Marx in there, but that's what Jack does. Anyway, Donovan Neal,
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  Speaker 1: still around, State Director of Americans for Prosperity in Action.
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  Speaker 1: What next? The list. Great. Get America building again. Americans
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  Speaker 1: for Prosperity backing the bipartisan permitting bill. That's the one
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  Speaker 1: thing you've got the word bipartisan in front of. The
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  Speaker 1: left wants to do their green projects. The conservatives are
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  Speaker 1: the right-thinking people that know where energy comes from, reliable energy. One,
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  Speaker 1: to get the real energy-producing projects off the ground, it
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  Speaker 1: takes regulatory reform, getting the federal government out of the
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  Speaker 1: blanking way. We'll find out about that. Let's see here. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: Bernie Moreno and John Huston both voted to advance this
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  Speaker 1: bipartisan legislation in a very overwhelmingly positive vote yesterday, 73
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  Speaker 1: to 25. Also, give Ohioans more savor costly rules. That
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  Speaker 1: would be the RAINS Act here in the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Donovan on those topics at 730. Judge Anna Napolitano fast-forwarding
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  Speaker 1: one hour to 830. Todd Blanch and the Department of
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  Speaker 1: Political Justice. Not a big fan of Todd Blanch, Judge
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  Speaker 1: Anna Napolitano, so we'll hear what he has to say
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  Speaker 1: about that. Love to hear what you have to say.
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  Speaker 1: If there's a comment you want to make, please feel free.
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  Speaker 1: It is Veterans Day. Salute the American veteran today. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
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  Speaker 1: pound 550 on AT & T phone. There's a veteran,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, deep dive yesterday, giving us the latest breakdown
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  Speaker 1: of the war between the United States and the Iranians.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Zawistowski, We the People Convention, still swinging, even after
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  Speaker 1: last week's loss. Got the Empower You seminar scheduled for
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  Speaker 1: the week. And thank you to local federal prosecutors, U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Attorney's Office, Southern District of Ohio, actually going after bad
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  Speaker 1: guys in the greater Cincinnati area who are wielding firearms.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, federal bad boy prison or big boy prison
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  Speaker 1: send you away for 15 years for something like that.
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  Speaker 1: In the state of Ohio, it's only three years. And
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  Speaker 1: of course, when you're in Hamilton County, none of the
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  Speaker 1: judges care to, well, hold anybody accountable for violating the law.
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  Speaker 1: So thankfully there are federal prosecutors. Learwood, Ken Kober, FOP
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  Speaker 1: president had to say about that at 55KRC. iheart. com where you
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  Speaker 1: can get all the podcast information. Well, It being Veterans Day,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of words here for the American veterans. We
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  Speaker 1: are honoring the men and women who have worn the
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  Speaker 1: uniform of the United States of America, folks that answered
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  Speaker 1: the call. They stood watch so we could sleep. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to sign up. We had others carrying the
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  Speaker 1: burden so we could live free. Today is the day
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  Speaker 1: we thank them, each and every one of them, without
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  Speaker 1: any reservation whatsoever. You get young people leaving home, family.
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  Speaker 1: They leave certainty behind. They leave their families behind. The
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  Speaker 1: family's left worrying as well. The training, separation, maybe even
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  Speaker 1: from their own family. I mean, you know, their parents,
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  Speaker 1: young people, I think of like an 18-year-old, 19-year-old, 20-year-old
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  Speaker 1: signing up for service. They're leaving their family, their mom
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  Speaker 1: and dad. But some of them, you know, signing up,
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  Speaker 1: leaving their own children, wives and husbands. going where they
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  Speaker 1: are ordered to go, not where they want to go,
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  Speaker 1: doing what they're required to do, and accepting a cost
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  Speaker 1: that could ultimately be permanent. You know, every generation of
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  Speaker 1: veterans have done this, every single generation. Battlefields in the sea,
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  Speaker 1: in the air, quiet posts around the world that aren't
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  Speaker 1: under threat of constant barrages of missiles, and some under
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  Speaker 1: constant barrage. Obviously, Some returned with visible scars. I know
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  Speaker 1: men who have come home with visible scars. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to exclude women, but I think of my dear friend,
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  Speaker 1: retired Colonel Bob Katire, who's got AK-47 wounds and IED
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  Speaker 1: explosion damage to his body. Those would be visible. And
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  Speaker 1: then you can only imagine the psychological wounds that so
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  Speaker 1: many carry that we can't even acknowledge or understand. They
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  Speaker 1: paid a price. so that the rest of us wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have to. Because of their service, we enjoy rights that
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  Speaker 1: others can only imagine. We have enjoyed the freedom of speech,
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  Speaker 1: the freedom of worship, the ability to vote in elections,
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  Speaker 1: and the ability to disagree, and the freedom to build
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  Speaker 1: our respective lives according to our respective values. Not yours. ours, individually,
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  Speaker 1: secured and defended by people who raised their right hand
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  Speaker 1: and meant it when they swore an oath to uphold
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  Speaker 1: the Constitution and the values enshrined within it. Veterans aren't
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  Speaker 1: asking for monuments or praise, payment. Most simply perhaps want
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  Speaker 1: to be remembered for what they did and at least
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  Speaker 1: supported in what they still face. The transition going home
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  Speaker 1: after dealing with the stresses of military life and the
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  Speaker 1: rigors of the discipline that is required to live within
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  Speaker 1: military life only to be returned home and face the freedoms,
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  Speaker 1: which can be a challenge for veterans who are used
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  Speaker 1: to structure and discipline. And being surrounded by camaraderie to
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  Speaker 1: come home and not have that around them, it is
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  Speaker 1: a difficult challenge in and of itself. Now, It's wonderful
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  Speaker 1: to honor them, but let's also honor them not only
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  Speaker 1: with just words like I'm offering this morning, as pathetic
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  Speaker 1: as they may be. Consider action as well. Look after
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  Speaker 1: those veterans who are struggling. Maybe you have a family
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  Speaker 1: member who served and might be struggling. You're probably in
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  Speaker 1: a far better position than any other person to see
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  Speaker 1: those challenges. Subtle they may be. Listen to them when
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  Speaker 1: they choose to talk, if they choose to talk. Employers,
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  Speaker 1: hire them. I always like to salute the Home Depot
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  Speaker 1: for having such a profound, wonderful record of hiring the
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  Speaker 1: veteran community. And they recognize that veterans are out-of-the-box thinkers.
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  Speaker 1: They're problem solvers. They'll do the job. Check on the
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  Speaker 1: families who maybe still be waiting and are worried about
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  Speaker 1: their loved ones deployed overseas. Support organizations that help those
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  Speaker 1: who served because government programs aren't perfect. I think we
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  Speaker 1: live in a time where government programs are getting better
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  Speaker 1: for the American veteran. Wait times for VA stays much
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  Speaker 1: shorter than they used to be, a much better, well-oiled machine.
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  Speaker 1: You got these wonderful veteran services commissions in each of
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  Speaker 1: the counties and salute to the various ones that I
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  Speaker 1: speak of, most notably the Claremont County Veteran Service Commission.
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  Speaker 1: now providing transportation for veterans to get to their medical care.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't around a while back, not even that far
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  Speaker 1: in the distant past. Getting better, but not sufficient. So
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  Speaker 1: support the organizations outside non-governmental entities that help veterans in
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  Speaker 1: ways that, well, in areas where the government programs might
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  Speaker 1: fall short. And also teach the next generation of what
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  Speaker 1: these men and women, what they did, the sacrifices that
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  Speaker 1: they made, for our country, for our benefit, even among
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  Speaker 1: groups of people that you personally and I personally may
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  Speaker 1: not think are worthy of the benefit of these people's sacrifice.
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  Speaker 1: And you know damn well who I'm talking about. My
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  Speaker 1: veteran friends, you carried the weight, you kept the faith,
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  Speaker 1: protected our country, as imperfect as it is, but still
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  Speaker 1: worth defending. I hope we never take your service for granted.
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  Speaker 1: I hope we never take for granted the peace that
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  Speaker 1: you help secure. And I hope that we live in
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  Speaker 1: a way that makes your sacrifice meaningful. And let us
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  Speaker 1: always remember that freedom does indeed have a price. And
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  Speaker 1: that price was paid by people who stood in the
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  Speaker 1: gap for the rest of us. I hope we never
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  Speaker 1: take you for granted. Thank you for your service to
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  Speaker 1: our country, each and every one of you. God bless
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  Speaker 1: the American veteran. And while it still stands, the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America. 515 right now, 55KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Love to hear from you if you've got a comment. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Mayor Aftab Perlow says everything's great. It's all good. Don't
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  Speaker 1: go away. Be right back. 55 KRC Detox Station. 51
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  Speaker 1: degrees right now at 55 KRC Detox Station.
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  Speaker 3: 519.
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  Speaker 1: Spinal tap? It is Nigel Tufnel Day. 11-11. Well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: Nigel Tuffel Day was 11-11-11. Gotta go back a while
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  Speaker 1: for that one. Very nice, Joe. I truly appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: That's big bottoms, isn't it? Talk about mud flaps. My
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  Speaker 1: girl's got them. No, I haven't ever seen that movie.
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  Speaker 1: 513-749-5500 800-823-TALK. Pound 550 on AT & T phones. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is Veterans Day. It is Nigel Tuffel Day, and
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  Speaker 1: Just a moment of acknowledgement. It is my father's birthday.
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  Speaker 1: My late father, born this day, 1939. May he rest
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  Speaker 1: in peace. I still miss you, Dad. No question about that. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: and Eric, congratulations. Eric just sent me a note. We're
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  Speaker 1: proud to share that Cincinnati Incorporated, again, been recognized by
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  Speaker 1: the U.S. Department of Labor with the Higher Vets Medallion Award,
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  Speaker 1: the third consecutive year they have earned that national honor.
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  Speaker 1: Higher Veterans Medallion Award recognizes employers who demonstrate exceptional commitment
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  Speaker 1: to recruiting, employing, and retaining veterans, receiving the distinction for
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  Speaker 1: a third year in a row. Reflects Cincinnati Incorporated's continued
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  Speaker 1: dedication to supporting those who have served our country and
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  Speaker 1: helping them build meaningful long-term careers at Cincinnati Incorporated. Salute, Eric.
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  Speaker 1: Good job. Oh, everything's okay in downtown Cincinnati. Mayor, I
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  Speaker 1: have to have Pearl Ball. Everything's cool. State of the
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  Speaker 1: city address yesterday. Apparently spent a decent amount of his speech,
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  Speaker 1: which took place at the first financial convention center, assuring
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  Speaker 1: the public that crime has decreased. Look, I've got the
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  Speaker 1: statistics to prove it.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, Dad. Now, you know, I thought it was rather interesting. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there are strength in numbers. There is no
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  Speaker 1: question about that. I even mentioned this on the air
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  Speaker 1: when people were considering going downtown. I guess it was blanket.
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  Speaker 1: Millions of people show up for that kind of thing. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you're surrounded by a bunch of law-abiding
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  Speaker 1: people who might just render aid to your defense if
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  Speaker 1: some unruly punk started wailing on you, it doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: So he cited the large events that were hosted in
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  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati, like the Cincinnati Music Fest October, to show
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  Speaker 1: how safe the city is. Look, all these people came
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  Speaker 1: down here. But isn't it really the sort of off
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  Speaker 1: hours where people get concerned about their safety? Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, walking back to your car after a
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  Speaker 1: night out on the town and you're surrounded by a
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  Speaker 1: crowd of, well, dangerous people who want to issue a
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  Speaker 1: beatdown to you just because, well, I don't know, you're there?
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  Speaker 1: There is a network of live event experts making sure
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  Speaker 1: that these showcases on the largest stages run smoothly and safely.
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  Speaker 1: He said, that the streets are managed, these messes are
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  Speaker 1: cleaned up, these issues are fixed, and folks get home safely.
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  Speaker 1: Homicides down 25%, he pointed out, since Ayaan pays for
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  Speaker 1: the fewest gunshot victims since the city began tracking data
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  Speaker 1: in 2010. Property crimes down 13% from the three-year average,
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  Speaker 1: still probably a little bit higher than anybody wants to tolerate.
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  Speaker 1: His knowledge crime is still a concern. Cited example of
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  Speaker 1: police officers who were attacked just recently, Halloween night, trying
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  Speaker 1: to break up. Oh, yeah, another crowd of street takeover,
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  Speaker 1: unruly youths and adults taking over near the University of Cincinnati. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, Joe. While he was in Michigan. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Fun fact. I know it can be difficult. It can
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  Speaker 1: be frustrating to talk about positive progress when we continue
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  Speaker 1: to have tragedies in our community. But being proud. Looking
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  Speaker 1: at and investing in what's working is not the same
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  Speaker 1: as being satisfied. Because he, of course, was being proud about,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, whatever investments he wanted to take credit for.
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  Speaker 1: He also gave props to Mike DeWine for putting leadership
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  Speaker 1: over politics. He's looking forward to Governor Amy Acton for
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  Speaker 1: reasons that seem pretty obvious. Didn't mention income tax. The
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  Speaker 1: words did not come up, and I'm giving Scott Wartman
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  Speaker 1: over at the Enquirer props on this one because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't watch the address. He did previously propose a hike
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  Speaker 1: in income tax in his inaugural address, but that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of gone by the wayside. Not real popular. But the
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  Speaker 1: city's going to be working on more affordable housing and
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  Speaker 1: efforts to combat... You ready? What is your major priority
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  Speaker 1: for the city of Cincinnati given its limited financial abilities?
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that it is not much of a
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  Speaker 1: well-oiled machine, getting things accomplished overall, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: they should tackle? What's job one for the city of Cincinnati? Joe,
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  Speaker 1: you're close. Green space. Climate change. Combating climate change. Population
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  Speaker 1: of about 300,000 people in the city of Cincinnati and
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  Speaker 1: a country with close to 350 million people. In a
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  Speaker 1: globe with billions and billions of people, yeah, the city
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati is going to do its best, its noble best,
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  Speaker 1: to combat climate change. Okay. Yeah, the water bill is
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  Speaker 1: going to go up too, Joe, right? The city is
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  Speaker 1: going to be breaking ground on two projects using the
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  Speaker 1: city's Build Ready program. That is basically, apparently, pre-approved designs.
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  Speaker 1: So the city greases the skids for their pre-approved designs.
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  Speaker 1: Design homes, whether it be a couple of family apartments,
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  Speaker 1: they have six designs you can choose from, two, three,
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  Speaker 1: four family homes a developer can pick from, described as
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  Speaker 1: like a catalog. The city's already approved it. It fits
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  Speaker 1: within the master plan. So you're in your unique ideas
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  Speaker 1: about what you think the public wants and what you
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  Speaker 1: might like to build. Sorry, you're going to be dealing
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  Speaker 1: with the frustrating permitting problem Which you wouldn't have to
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  Speaker 1: deal with if you have the pre-approved. Oh, I would think.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's like Soviet era buildings, Joe? Minimalist. And
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  Speaker 1: they'll issue uniforms to you when you live in one.
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  Speaker 1: Olive drab gray. So you got a pre-approved design developers.
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  Speaker 1: You can choose from one. These designs already have necessary
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  Speaker 1: city approvals. And it's okay. It's going to be easily
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  Speaker 1: affordable because it's backed by a $ 2 million federal housing grant.
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  Speaker 1: You know the cost of building a house these days?
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  Speaker 1: $ 2 million? We are going out and building the damn housing,
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  Speaker 1: he said. Combating climate change. Big focus from Mayor Aftab Pervol.
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  Speaker 1: City's going to continue moving forward with its Green Cincinnati plan.
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  Speaker 5: Yay!
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  Speaker 1: Goals for reducing carbon emissions. And they're going to move
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  Speaker 1: forward with the Climate Migration Readiness Program. Yeah, I hope
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with what those are. Perval said he wants
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  Speaker 1: more investment in projects such as the solar arrays the
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  Speaker 1: city built recently. Now is the time for investments like these.
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  Speaker 1: Generational storms are becoming increasingly frequent. Meteorologist Aftab Perval offered
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  Speaker 1: without any specific support. Far too many of our neighborhoods
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  Speaker 1: went through the fallout from this summer's historic rainfall and flooding.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Every season, the climate changes. Every season, we deal with
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  Speaker 1: our rainfall. And every year, the Metropolitan Sewer District gets
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  Speaker 1: further and further and further behind in its maintenance and
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  Speaker 1: upkeep of the Metropolitan Sewer District sewer system. 526 right now.
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  Speaker 1: More local stories. Your phone calls would be preferred. Either
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  Speaker 1: way you want to go, we'll go in that direction
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  Speaker 1: right after these words. 55KRC. com. Podcast right now, 55KRC, the
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  Speaker 1: talk station.
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  Speaker 7: 530.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Happy Veterans Day. And happy heavenly birthday to
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  Speaker 1: my father. Over to local stories here. I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you if you've got something to say. Pick
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  Speaker 1: a direction. Pick a topic.
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  Speaker 8: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Ripley County Coroner's Office responded to the scene of a
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  Speaker 1: house fire in Versailles. Woke out about 10.30 p.m. yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: 3700 block of West County Road. Ripley County Emergency Management
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  Speaker 1: Agency warned people to avoid the area. Unknown how many
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  Speaker 1: victims are in the fire. Indiana State Fire Marshal is investigating.
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  Speaker 1: Not much there. Thank you to Fox 19 anyway. Another
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: story from Fox. Investigation underway after a stabbing took place
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  Speaker 1: in Brown County last night. Dispatches at the Brown County
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  Speaker 1: Communication Center said that one person was stabbed. Happened in
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  Speaker 1: the 900 block of South Main Street in Georgetown. Victim
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  Speaker 1: taken to a hospital via air care with unknown injuries,
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  Speaker 1: according to dispatchers. Dispatchers said they could not answer whether
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  Speaker 1: or not law enforcement was still looking for a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Fox 19 inquiry on that. Well, I think that without
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  Speaker 1: any details, Joe, I still think that applies. Coming to
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  Speaker 1: man could be facing life imprisonment after injecting a minor
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  Speaker 1: with amphetamine. Dust off the award, Joe. Justin Simpson, 41,
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  Speaker 1: accused of several sexual assault charges and unlawful transaction with
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  Speaker 1: a minor, causing injury. Last Friday, the jury found him
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  Speaker 1: guilty on only one of the charges, but it was
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  Speaker 1: enough to recommend that he serve a life sentence in prison.
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  Speaker 1: Kenton County Commonwealth Attorney Rob Sanders, quote, the jury got
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  Speaker 1: it right when it came to this sentencing. Ultimately, if
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  Speaker 1: it keeps him locked in a cage where he can't
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  Speaker 1: hurt any more children, that's fine by me, close quote.
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  Speaker 1: On Friday, Kenton County jury found him guilty of first-degree
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  Speaker 1: unlawful transaction with a minor causing injury. Conviction came nearly
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  Speaker 1: two years after he was arrested in Covington following a
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  Speaker 1: report from a 17-year-old girl. Sanders said, who said that
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  Speaker 1: he had lured her to the Radisson Hotel and shot
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  Speaker 1: her up with methamphetamine and then raped and sodomized her?
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  Speaker 1: He was charged with rape, sodomy, sexual abuse, unlawful transaction
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  Speaker 1: with a minor. Sanders said the jury conviction wasn't what
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  Speaker 1: he was expecting. He said after three days, the jury,
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  Speaker 1: much to my surprise, found him not guilty of the
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  Speaker 1: sex offenses. Simpson testified in his own defense, admitting to
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  Speaker 1: injecting meth into the young girl but denying the sexual contact. Sanders,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose the jury went solely with the easy way
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  Speaker 1: out and convicted him of what he admitted to doing,
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  Speaker 1: but fortunately the punishment in this case was sufficient, even
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  Speaker 1: if the number of jury convictions were not. Already served
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: seven felony offenses, already had seven felony offenses and prior
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: misdemeanor convictions. Sanders said the jury was able to convict
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: him of being a first-degree persistent felony offender on top
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of the other conviction. I was disappointed, he said, but
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I believed every word this girl said. I was astonished
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that the jury didn't agree. Nevertheless, we're happy with the punishment.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Sentencing scheduled for February 3rd in Kenton County Court. I'm
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: sure he's enjoying his prison stay.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Park Hill City Council has finally been determined because of
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: a coin flip.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky. Residents had their chance to vote for up
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to six candidates. Steve Elkins, the incumbent, Joe Daugherty, tied.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: This is where elections really matter. Show up and vote
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: because they both got 530 votes. Kenton County Clerk Gabrielle
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Summey said the race was decided by a coin flip
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: yesterday at the Kenton County Government Center in Covington. Third
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: time a political race has been decided by a coin
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: flip in the past 15 years, she said. Somebody said
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: both candidates' names were put in a hat. Elkin's name
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: was drawn from it, and he decided which side of
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the coin he wanted. Kenton County Sheriff's Office commemorative challenge
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: coin was used. That's sad, maybe. Oh, and they got
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a report on data centers. The City of Cincinnati Council
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: considering how to regulate data centers. They got a presentation.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: City ordered a study to help guide council members to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: consider how to handle data centers if more are brought
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to the city, because we already have some in the city,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: in downtown. Department of City Planning and Engagement representatives acknowledge
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that data centers may be a very important piece of infrastructure,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: knowing that not everybody wants them, though. According to Councilman
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Mark Jeffries, we all use the internet, we use social media,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: we do Google searches. All of that uses data from
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: data centers, so if we want to do that, we
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: need data centers. Where was Jeffries out loud on this
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: before the election? They say 400 people roughly provided the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: city with feedback on the issue. Primary message received by
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: community members, a desire to see the zoning code prohibit
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: them at all. That according to Sophia Ferris-Rowe with the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Department of City Planning and Engagement. They said 28
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: data centers currently operate in the city limits, nine directly
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: in the city, or greater Cincinnati area, I might more
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: properly state on the 28, nine within the city limits.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: The study, and here we go again. Study found more
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: data centers could create jobs, check. Help support local infrastructure, check. But,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: here we go, may have negative environmental impacts on carbon emissions.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That's your concern, people? God, I wish we'd get over that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: It's plant food for God's sake. 536 right now. Westside Jim,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you are first out of the gate. I'm so pleased
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to see you on the call screen. Others can join them.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear from you. 513-7540. 55KRC, the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: talk station. Happy Wednesday. Try to make it so anyway.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the callers lined up. Got quite a few
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: of them on the screen. That is a delight from
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: my standpoint. Let us begin with Westside Jim Kiefer. Good
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to hear from you, Jim, as it always is when
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you call.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: Hey, just got a couple questions for you real quick,
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: since you've got other callers. He was in Michigan doing
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: a kumbaya moment. Did he mention also the senseless firings
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: of the police chief, the fire chief?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: No.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: The electric growing bills, the water bills.
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: The police morale? I mean, anything like this? Did he
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: mention anything like that in that report?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: No, he wasn't engaged in a self-critical analysis at all.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: He was just crowing about what he claims has been accomplished,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and gee, aren't you looking forward to the new green
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: energy projects?
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: Oh, for God's sakes.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Since I'm a city resident.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Does the road need to be paved out there, perhaps,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: before we start building more carbon-neutral infrastructure?
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Well, because of you, we have that new sunset.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Other than that, the.
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: The other roads that are out here we could name
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: by the dozens that need coal filling.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I wish I could personally take credit for getting Sunset repaved.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It was just a poster child for everything wrong with
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati.
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: But this clown is just impossible to be negative about anything,
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: but especially the city manager. I mean, because most of
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: the problems that we've got in this city right now
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: that are going to cost millions, not.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Like $ 50, 000, are brought in by.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: Our lovely city manager, who nobody will stand up to her.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: I guess maybe the two city councilmen that are leaving
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: for other jobs, what they should do is stand up
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: to her because they've got nothing to lose.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: You think she's busily trying to hide her assets and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: put them in trusts and things like that to avoid
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the attachment for personal liability for firing Chief Washington?
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Well, if she runs her personal life the way she
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: did in the city, she don't have any personal funds.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Valid statement. Actually, Jim, I think that may be accurate.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I can't say it's valid, but it's certainly a worthy speculation.
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: Oh my God.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: It's just, it's impossible.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: I shake my head every day at this stuff, Brian,
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: but you've got other callers and I just want to
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: throw a few things out for you. But this come
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: by all moments that he throws every year is just amazing.
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: And you know, the applause that he's going to get
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: and what a pat on the back is just phenomenal.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Nothing you can do about it, Jim. We can't agree
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: on it. What can we agree on, Jim? Cancer sucks.
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: We're going to get snowflakes at the end of the week.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, cancer sucks. Jim, I wish you all the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: best of health in the world, my friend. I know
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you struggled with it yourself and so many others out there.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: At least we can collectively agree on one thing. Appreciate it, Jim.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. Who's next? Bobby, welcome to the program. Steve, Tom,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: hold on. Bobby, welcome back.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Good morning to you, my friend. I'd like to go
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: ahead and thank all the people that serve the country.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Happy Veterans Day. They sold themselves and everything. Their country
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: was more important than what they did personally.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of individuals in the elitist network. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: think about this, Brian. Of all the elitists that have
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the shingles on the wall and have families, how many
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: of them do you think ever walked down to the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: recruitment office and put their hand up. How many can
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: you think of?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: That falls into the category of rhetorical question, I would say, Bobby.
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: None?
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, none. I'll give you an example. The Democrats and everything,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: they're our adversaries. And let's just look at the Cincinnati area,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: for example. It's all run by Democrats, correct?
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: Yes. Okay.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: How many other cities? All the cities in Ohio. are
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: run by Democratic mayors, Democratic.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Councils, all of them.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Where did all our votes go? In 15 counties.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: 15 blue counties ran the state.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Why can't we have any of these elites down there
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: in the dead zones?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: You're asking a bunch of rhetorical questions.
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Why can't we? Why can't we? I mean, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: this is... The reality is what the Democrats always wanting
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: unfolding before our very eyes. Hooked up a bunch of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: people to the umbilical cord of government. Tell them they
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: can't take care for themselves. Tell them that society is
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: permanently ruined. They live in a corrupt, inherently corrupt world. Here,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I'm here to save you. Take my money. Oh, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: by the way, live in these concentrated urban centers where
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you can walk everywhere and life is really good for you.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You got a bunch of blue cities. That's the way
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it worked out. Smart people got the hell out away
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: from violence and crime out to the lovely suburbs. where
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: life was good like Anderson Township until the Democrats moved
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: in and crapped all over it. Bobby, it's obvious what's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: going on out there. People just don't care enough to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: pay attention.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, I pay attention. If you think about it, there
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: are 21st century plantations that are run by individuals that
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: are mayors, city council members. But if you look back
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: years ago, all they were were overseers. That's all they were.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Well, legally, they had power and control because they had slavery.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in their hands. The law created that. Now, in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: absence of slavery, they've got, well, the umbilical cord of government,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the siren song that somebody out there is going to
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: save you from yourself. It's just a tired trope. Oh, no, no,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: life's too tough for you. You can't manage without me
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and my program. People just buy into it. Throw up
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: their hands, say, yep, they're right. I'm voting Democrat for
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Sorry, that's just the way
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it is. People finally wise up. Look at what's going
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: on in Europe, Bobby. Look at what's going on in Europe, Bobby.
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: Well, I know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Look at what's going on in Europe. They keep asking
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: for more, and they see it burning down. Every single
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: place has been tried before, thinking it's going to work
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this time. It's not. Give up. $ 40 trillion and counting? No,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work. You can't spend your self-deficit spending into prosperity.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: The world doesn't get better because the government offers you
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: free stuff and things. It's never going to make good
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: on the promise. It never has. Appreciate, Bobby. You got
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: me all wired up this morning. 547, 55KRC Detox Station. Steve, Tom,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and Corey, I'm getting to you. Don't go away. Please
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: be right back.
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: 55KRC.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Brown, Cincinnati. 50, 55 care city talk station. I'm going
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to go straight to the phones. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Steve, thanks
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: for calling in and holding over the break there. Welcome
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to the program.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Good morning, Brian.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I have a question.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Maybe you can help me on this. I just confess
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: I don't understand. Yesterday I heard some call on a
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: different radio program. He was here in Ohio, but he
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: was claiming again to the data centers that his electric
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: bill has basically doubled. His family has six now. It
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: pays $ 589 a month for electric. And I do not
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: get this every time this is brought up. I don't
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: care if everybody on the street turns on his air
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: conditioner or they open some new warehouse down here in Westchester.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: It doesn't change my electricity rate. What are they talking about?
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: I don't get puke. That's it, correct?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the problem is if demand exceeds supply,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: they've got to buy peak pricing like there's extra energy.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And it's very confusing for me, man. This is where
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I always like to laugh, the fact that a Mensa
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: membership means absolutely jack squat. Because I don't get it,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: but out in the world, there's extra electricity that they
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: can purchase, but it comes at a premium price, which
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: is passed along to the customer. So that's the only
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: understanding I have of how that works. Otherwise, the rates
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: are set and fixed. They've got to get approvals to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: jack them up, which they're in the process of doing. So, yeah. PUCO, right?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: PUCO, the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio System, right?
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: It doesn't change.
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 32:08
  Speaker 11: It certainly doesn't.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: I don't get it. But, I mean, these people honestly
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: believe this, apparently. I don't get it at all.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Well, to the extent there is more demand than power available,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: then you could see how energy prices could go up
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: because they'd have to go out in the world and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: gobble up the extra power out there to meet the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: demands of their consumers. But all things being equal, I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: don't think we run into that problem very often. So, yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it is a legitimate question. This is an opportunity for
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: me to remind folks, you know, this is like the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: peace of God. It passes all human understanding, at least
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: for me and apparently for Steve, too. Steve, I'm glad
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you shared my confusion on this. appreciated brother this is
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: tom welcome to the program tom maybe you can answer
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that question well on.
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: A little side note before i get to my main
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: topic but on this cost of electricity it's diesel fuel
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: shipping uh coal to the plant mining it labor taxes
• 33:03
  Speaker 13: insurance on all these companies that's what's caught in the
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: causing all these prices to go up.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess just like any other industry, those factors
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: factor into why the price of everything goes up. I mean,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: diesel fuel impacts everything literally, but public utilities, the private,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: public nature of them doesn't allow them the freedom to
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: just go ahead and jack up somebody's electricity rate just
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: because they're facing additional inflationary challenges, to the best of
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: my knowledge.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, the main thing is you've got to tighten
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: up your homes.
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: Everybody's living in these.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Uninsulated homes there.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Not very efficient, and they're old, so.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 13: Anyway, yesterday they voted to not impeach Pete Higstaff, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 13: I'm glad Thomas Matthews is.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Going to finally ride off.
• 33:53
  Speaker 13: Into the sunset. I think he's a little bit disgruntled.
• 33:55
  Speaker 13: He's lost that election, but Pete Higstaff and Donald Trump
• 33:59
  Speaker 13: did not cause him to lose the election.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: People of Kentucky did that, so.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 34:04
  Speaker 13: They're blowing up drug boats and Maduro down there as well.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the always Trumper folks hated Massey because,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of course, Massey always had a target on his back
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: because he's one that at least cared about the Constitution. So,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I think he knew this effort wasn't going
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to go anywhere. The Senate's still controlled by Republicans, so
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you might want to consider the timing on this. The timing,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and he would be out of office after the first
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: of the year, but after January, were the theoretical Congressman
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Massey still in office, he could advance it and it
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: would have passed. Got the Senate, got the Democrats in
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the Senate and the House. You could pass something like
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that and it would go through. So he didn't do
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: it or nobody advanced it then. Maybe this one and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: done effort will prevent the thing from being brought up again.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: We're all going to have to sit back with our
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: popcorn out and find out what the future holds in
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: store for us because right now we can't speculate. Or
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: we can speculate, but we don't know. But there may
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: have been a veiled gift in him advancing it while
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the Republicans are still in control. Something to be just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: noted on that. He got his symbolic point made, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it didn't go anywhere. Nobody expected it to. Corey, you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: going to have to hang on. I think we got
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: time for him, Joe. Corey, go ahead. Joe said we
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: have time.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Senate Bill 214.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I was holding off until the top of the hour, Corey.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I was going to bring that up after the news.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for you to call.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: I can't believe it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that they actually passed it and As
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: far as I know, DeWine is expected to sign it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: He'll probably wait until the 10th day.
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: But still, I think he's believed that he will sign it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: The bill was originally introduced in, I believe, October of 2025,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: and they did nothing with it until yesterday. They reintroduced it,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: added the amendment, put all the original language back in it,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: and then they passed it as one of the first
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: bills voted on in the House.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I don't understand why it took them so long when
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: they ultimately passed it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Well, probably Governor DeWine was threatened to veto it all along.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me, but it did
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: previously pass the Senate overwhelmingly. So now, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: firearm suppressors are no longer considered dangerous ordinances, along as
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: DeWine signs it. Corey, appreciate it. We'll get a little
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: more details on that after the top of the hour news. 605,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: coming up at 606 here at 55KRC Detox Station. Happy
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Veterans Day. God bless the American veteran. Appreciate the service.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Big time. Having never signed on the bottom line, I'm
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: just impressed you can do it. And thanks to you
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: for your specific service and your family members for sacrificing
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: as well. We have what's left of our country to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: thank you for. I got an email from somebody who would,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Talking about Congressman David Massey being on the program a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of times. Joe, do you remember David Massey? No,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: neither do I. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT &
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: T phone. And happy heavenly birthday to my father. God
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: bless you, sir. I miss you, miss you, miss you.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Let the cat out of the bag. You probably already
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: heard it already, my gun-hunting friends and suppressors. Yes, Ohio
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: gun owners now facing fewer state restrictions, assuming Mike DeWine
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: signs the legislation into law. Yesterday, the House of Representatives
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: passed Senate Bill 214, removing short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: firearms and suppressors from the list of quote-unquote dangerous ordinances.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Jesse Ballmer of the Enquirer pointing out that dangerous ordinances
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: include nitroglycerin, rocket launchers, grenades, and torpedoes still on the list.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: Hmm.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: The bill passed the House 68 to 27, already passed
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the Senate 21 to 9. Also eliminated registration requirements that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the federal government no longer enforces. The federal government isn't
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: enforcing them. What's the point of Ohio enforcing them? There
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: isn't one. That's why Governor DeWine needs to sign this
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: into law. Now, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and Explosives announced that individuals no longer had to wait
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: for approval, register, and pay $ 200 on SBR, short barrel rifles,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the shotguns, as well as suppressors. That was one big,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: beautiful bill, which eliminated the taxes, which resulted in a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: lawsuit saying, listen, the whole foundation for this registration, the payment,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: having to let the federal government know what you're buying,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and the banning of short barrel rifle ownership, all failed.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: predicated on the tax. When the tax was eliminated, the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: whole thing was thrown out the window. No longer in force,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: so Ohio, welcome to the club. Ohio Attorney General Andy
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Wilson had urged lawmakers to clarify the Ohio firearms rule
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: after the federal changes. Representative Tex Fisher, Republican from Boardman,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: bought the bill in Ohio in line with federal policy,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: calling it a win for gun owners. This is a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: win for public safety advocates. Now, you still have to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: pass a background check, fill out the standard firearm purchasing
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: form to buy any of these. They still fall into
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the category of, like, buying a firearm. But you don't
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: have to, well, register it specifically. Some Democrats worry, specifically
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: about the so-called gun show loophole, which allows you to
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: go next door and sell your firearm to your next-door neighbor,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: just like selling a shovel. No background checks. Cecil Thomas
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: from Cincinnati During the committee hearing, background checks are an
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: essential tool for keeping guns in the hands of safe, responsible,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: law-abiding owners. Has he been to downtown Cincinnati? I mean,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: he's from here. We've got people getting caught with guns
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: under disability like every damn day of the week. We
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: just talked with FOP President Ken Coburn yesterday about 250%
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: increase in prosecutions for, yes, gun offenses in downtown. Thank
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you to the U.S. Attorney General's Office prosecuting this on
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a federal level since apparently state law isn't harsh enough
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: on people that are carrying around guns with a gun offense. Cecil,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: how about you mend the law? How about making 15
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: years in the state of Ohio for carrying the heat
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: when you're not allowed? Well, and yeah, there are the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: community guns, Joe, the lending library of guns that our
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: gang member youth seem to know about. We fight those
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: every single year. Thomas said, allowing suppressors, far different than
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: permitting unregistered short-barreled rifles. Some argue that suppressors are merely
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: accessories to create no danger on their own. That would
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: be me, for example. The same cannot be said of
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: sawed-off shotguns and short-barrel rifles. These are powerful weapons, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: their size makes them easier to conceal. Uh, yeah. But
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: if you're worried about concealment, why not just gravitate over
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to the preferred weapon of choice among those who are
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: not able to own one or carry one, the handgun?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Far more easy to conceal, Cecil. Anyway, happy that that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: went through. Because since the Democrats in a massive wave
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: last Tuesday get the memo on that, are now going
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to go after guns. Look what happened in New York.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Texas rather. Yeah, Texas. I still am reeling
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: over Texas turning blue. Is that possible? Just days after
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Democrat Gina Hinojosa defeated three-term Republican Governor Greg Abbott and
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the Democrats seized control of the Texas House for the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: first time since 2002. What do they do? They rolled out,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I believe, roughly 20 sweeping new regulations going after firearms.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Ink isn't even dry in the elections. They're going after them.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: In Texas, of all places. Did the Texans vote for this? SB-80,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a ban on so-called, here we go, assault weapons, including possession.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Build targets, commonly owned semi-automatic centerfire rifles that accept, oh
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: my God, the horrific detachable magazines. Ooh, and the evil
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: pistol grip, which converts a just perfectly lawful, something that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the pioneers would have carried around into a weapon of
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: war that only trained military personnel should have. That evil
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: pistol grip. House Bill 2018 repeals the 2025 Texas law
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: signed by Governor Abbott banning red flag orders and blocking
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: localities from enforcing them. House Bill 173, among other related bills,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: make it a state jail felony to transfer semi-automatic rifles
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to adults under 21. Some courts have held that adults
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: under the age of 21, specifically 18-year-olds, since you're an
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: emancipated adult, Why don't you enjoy the full Second Amendment
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: rights that 21-year-olds do? You can go out and buy
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a car. You can be held accountable for crimes in
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: big boy prisons, big boy courts, but you can't carry
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a firearm. Oh, and by the way, you're not allowed
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to drink a beer either. I've never been able to
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: make sense of that. House Bill 613, Texas, so-called universal
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: background checks on, here we are, private firearm transfers. There's
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: your gun hole loophole legislation, so-called. HB 659 requires dealers
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to report people who buy multiple guns or magazines. Oh
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: my God, he bought more than one?
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: And? HB 712 weakens statewide firearms protections, allowing cities and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: counties to chip away at uniform gun protections and enact
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: local gun control. See, you can't do that in Ohio.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: A lesson learned by the city of Cincinnati when it
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: went ahead and tried to do local gun control legislation.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and had to go to court spending hundreds of thousands
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of dollars to defend its illegal position, only to be
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: found out, again, because it was indoctrinated, memorialized in long
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: history of case law, there is no local control over
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: gun issues in the state of Ohio. Well, Texas is
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: moving in that direction. So, you drive out of your
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: local township or city limits, you're now in a new
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: area with maybe new gun control laws, and how in
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the hell are you supposed to know? Ignorance of law
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: is no excuse. So you're setting up people, otherwise law-abiding folks,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: within one jurisdiction to be criminals when they drive across
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: an arbitrarily determined line and move into another jurisdiction within
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: your own state. Well, Democrats only control the House and
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Governor's office in Texas. The Senate remains in Republican control. So,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: of course, there at least is a firewall against this
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: encroaching jurisdiction. into your Second Amendment right. Just remind folks,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you're not a big fan of Second Amendment. Can you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: imagine the Iranians if they had a Second Amendment right?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what the citizenry would do, but
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: if you lived in an oppressive government under the thumb
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: of oppression, religious oppression or any other form of oppression,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of like maybe the founding fathers felt
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: when they were living in the colonies, they were under
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the thumb of British oppression, taxation without representation, quartering of troops,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: warrantless searches, rifling through your papers and effects without anything
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: other than a kick in of the door. Yeah, if
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you lived in a system like that, wouldn't it be
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: a nice thing to be able to defend yourself and
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: to be able to fight back against your evil oppressors? Well,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you can't fight against an F-16 aircraft. Well, you know what?
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: You can.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: The weight of the mightiest military force in the world.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: The biggest military force, the most powerful force in the world,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the biggest the world has ever known. That would be us.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Kind of held hostage by the Iranians? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: 615.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Cleveland now. Hang on, brother. I'd be happy to take
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: your call. 620-554-CITY-TALK, station 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. Town 550 on AT &
• 46:13
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• 46:17
  Speaker 8: Eric, you're right.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: It says people with guns are harder to stuff into
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: train cars. Good point. Cleveland Now, thanks for holding over
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the break. Welcome to the morning show.
• 46:28
  Speaker 10: Hey, good morning. I appreciate you taking my call. I
• 46:33
  Speaker 10: am tremendously disappointed that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: House Bill 214 keeps torpedoes illegal. Now I'm going to
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: have to go out and sell my self-defense submarine. So
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: I just bought it online. It's sad.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Get your drone while they're still available on Amazon, Al,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: because they're coming for that next.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Have a good day.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You too, man. Appreciate it. And when analyzing the whole
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Second Amendment, this Bruin decision, what the framers had to
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: contemplate by way of keeping and bearing arms at the
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: time they enshrined the Second Amendment into the Constitution's Bill
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: of Rights. If you were a pioneer, if you were
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a settler, if you, well, were here during the colonial
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: period of time, you can own whatever you wanted to own.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: You could buy a cannon, but considering the manufacturing techniques
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that were available then and the outrageous price of buying
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: a cannon, most hunter-gatherer type mindset people in the day
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: were a little worried more about getting food on the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: table and finding a place to shelter themselves than accumulating
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: enough money to want to go out and buy a cannon.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: A rifle, of course, you needed a musket that was
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: part of that eating component. But what did the British have?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And what do the settlers have? Whatever they get their
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: hands on. And I know you living next door to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: someone who may have a grenade or, in the case
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: of Cleveland Al, their own submarine or battery of torpedoes.
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: Phrasing.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, law-abiding citizens perhaps should be trusted. Sadly,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: there are so many kooks and crazies out there. They
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: are the ones that serve as the predicate and foundation
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for confiscating your ability to defend yourself. Because we have
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: lawbreakers out there in a very small supply comparative to the,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I would say, usually law-abiding population, generally speaking. Oh, but
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: there's that one guy over there. He went all shooty.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: He's crazy. He's having struggles with, I don't know, his
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: gender identity or something, which led him to break into
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: a school district and start shooting young people. We need
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: to take away everyone's right to defend themselves.
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: Uh-huh.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Don't fall down that slippery slope. Again, might want to
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: ask the Jews in Poland about that kind of thing,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: or maybe the Israeli, or rather the Iranian citizenry. Gee,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: if you guys could have... guns, would you want them?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Something to think about. Now, a couple of guidelines and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: rules here. I read this interestingly timed article I found
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: on the Daily Caller. Armed citizens can step on legal
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: landmines if they aren't careful following self-defense shootings. Mind what
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: you say in the aftermath for all of these lawyers
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: that were interviewed, what it boils down to. Some of
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the most common mistakes, according to the lawyers that were interviewed,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: involve what happened immediately after the, say, self-defense shootings. Todd Gravy,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: former prosecutor and a firearms instructor, he said, odds are
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: if you're the good person who's never been involved in
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the justice system before, you probably have no idea what
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: you're doing.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: He said, Gravy noted that because the vast majority of
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: self-defense uses do not involve any shots being fired, far
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: too many armed citizens can find themselves in trouble. They
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: know how to use the police against you because they've
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: been through the system. So you're the person that used
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a firearm in self-defense. The they that this attorney is
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: referring to, of course, is the bad guy that tried
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to do harm to you or your family. They understand
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: what they should or should not do. He said, and
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I see a lot of people walk themselves into criminal
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: charges because law enforcement misidentifies them as the bad guy
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: because they don't understand how to play the system. You
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: need to be clear from the beginning. One guy, I've
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: been telling people since the 1970s, you need a brief
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: statement in the aftermath. Make it clear from the beginning.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: This guy attacked you. You need to point out the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: knife that he dropped. You need to point out, you know,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: witnesses you saw before they disappeared. But you must not
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: try to answer any detailed questions. That's where you're going
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: to get into trouble. By far, the number one, and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: pretty much in any criminal defense attorney will tell you this,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: who handles these type of cases, is speaking to the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: police and assuming that the police are on your side,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: your defense side, and assuming that you can walk your
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: way out of a situation, assuming you're a good shot,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: assuming that, well, You're actually a good lawful shooting, a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: defensible shooting position. You assume that, but you don't necessarily
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: get the ability to assume that the law enforcement officer
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: sees it your way. When cops show up on the scene,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: you start volunteering all kinds of information. It could turn
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: out to be incriminating. So this is a mind your
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: P's and Q's scenario. I can only imagine what it
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: would be like to have to have having actually shot
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: someone since I have been in a need for my
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: own firearm self-defense situation. I know that I feared for
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: my life. And it never occurred to me under those circumstances,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: given the number of witnesses that were surrounding me when
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I pulled over. Oh, I saw what happened. That guy
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: tried to kill you.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: That this could turn into a situation where I might
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: be found liable for having shot someone when I had
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: a justifiable right to use it. So just a couple
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: of the points on this, and I hate that we
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: have to plan in advance on this, because I know
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who own firearms.
• 52:25
  Speaker 10: A lot.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: And I hear it from people all the time. Aren't
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: you afraid when you're defending yourself, if you end up
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: in a situation like that, you're going to end up
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: in jail? I'd rather be tried by 12 or jury
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: of 12 versus Paul Bearer's of six. We all hear
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the old argument. That's true. I'll take my odds on that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: But you need to sort of be prepared for the aftermath.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: But I would always default to, you know, if I
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: am that fearful for my life being taken, my wife,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: my children, I'm not going to hesitate. And you know
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the other point they made in this article? Comments you've
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: made previously, social media posts along the lines of, you know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried out by 6.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: That could come back to haunt you. Prosecutors might cling
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: to that, like Thomas made his previous statement saying he would,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: if his life was in imminent apprehension, grievous bodily harm
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: or death, use a firearm. Yeah, I'm on record. And
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: that statement? Might very well be used against me down
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the road. I sure hope so, and I sure hope
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I never end up in that situation. But these are
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the kind of things you need to think about in
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a very litigious society driven by a lot of people
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: who would love to take your firearms away from you.
• 53:40
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• 53:52
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• 53:54
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• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Reason to be happy about a Wednesday. And I love
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: callers online. And Kirby's mic, hold on, my veteran friend,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: because Dave held over the break. Dave, welcome to Morning Show.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday and Veterans Day to you.
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: Hi, good morning. Regarding the Second Amendment, I will remind
• 54:12
  Speaker 11: you that when that was written, you could buy your
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: very own little pirate ship. I refer to the letters
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: of Mark and Reprisal.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Buy your own pirate ship. I guess you could. I mean, Dave,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: isn't it fundamental truth that you really could do pretty
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: much damn well anything you wanted back then as long
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: as it didn't intrude or interfere with someone else's life
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: and liberties and freedoms and that kind of thing? You
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: could buy a ship. You could buy a gun. You
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: could buy whatever form of firearm or munition that was available.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: You just had to afford it. I think affordability was
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing, wasn't it?
• 54:45
  Speaker 13: Mm-hmm.
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: That's the major one. And we do remember that when
• 54:49
  Speaker 11: the British marched on Concord and Lexington, they were going
• 54:52
  Speaker 11: there to seize the civilian cannons that the civilian militia owned.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: That's right. Community defended themselves. That's where militia came from, right, Dave?
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: There was no police department. There was no sheriff's department.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: There was no National Guard. It was you and your neighbors.
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: The police were called bobbies because Robert Peel invented the
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: idea when Queen Victoria was alive. It's 1840s, I believe.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 55:21
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: So, yes, we were there, and it was up to
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: us to protect ourselves. As to the hand cannons, you
• 55:29
  Speaker 11: can look at the old duck hunters' guns and figure
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: out what they did.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about that. And, you know, the blunderbuss
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that they used to have on pirate ships and elsewhere,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the scattergun kind of thing. Yeah, whatever you could get
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: your hands on and afford, you were allowed to buy.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: There were no restrictions on it. Now, fast forward to today.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: You mean you could buy a nuclear weapon and have
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: one in your basement? Is that what you're advocating for? Well,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you know. Ask the Iranians about that. They've been working
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: on it for a long, long time and still haven't
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: been able to achieve that. North Korea got one, though.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Whatever happened to that argument? I mean, the people who
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: are concerned about the Iranians, and I get the concern,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: mind you, I understand, but North Korea, real problem on
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: our hands. Oh, my God, evil Kim Jong, whoever the
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: hell's in the position, is going to get themselves a
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. Well, yeah, it happened. Don't see any alarming
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: concerns about it right now, though. Mike, hang on, brother.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I'll get you in a second.
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: I'm in.
• 56:26
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• 56:33
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• 56:36
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• 56:38
  Speaker 1: one of the American veterans and the families for the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: sacrifice for our country. Just signing up a huge sacrifice
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: in a cosmic crapshoot. But we do still maintain some
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of the freedoms that our founding fathers fought for. And
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the American veterans are responsible for us being here where
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: we are today. Thank you for your service. Cribbage Mike,
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  Speaker 1: my submariner friend. Great to see. I love the picture
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  Speaker 1: that you sent me this morning. The three submarines was
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: at the North pole where you had took that photograph.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: North Pole, that was in May of 1987, and that
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: was the first time that ever happened. The year before,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: three U.S. submarines did it, but in my particular case,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: it was us, the USS Billfish, USS Sea Devil out
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  Speaker 2: of Charleston, but then we were joined by the HMS
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  Speaker 2: Superb from the U.K., so it was a tremendous opportunity,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: and you just felt like you were an explorer up
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: there walking around the North Pole, but That was Ivan's backyard,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: and it still is, and that's why our presence north
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: of the Arctic Circle is so important.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm a control freak or something like that.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I like to be in charge. I like to drive
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: because I can go where I want to go and
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: drive where I want to drive. Just being able to
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: see my surroundings, the idea of sort of surrounding sight
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: deprivation would absolutely drive me crazy, which is probably I
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: could never pass a psychological profile to be in a submarine.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: How do you cope and manage with that? Was that
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: a transition period you had to go through or just
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: didn't bother you from the get-go, Mike?
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Well, they can train you as best they can going
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  Speaker 2: through basic submarine school. And, of course, submarine service, even
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: to today, is still all volunteer. But you're still– you're
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: not going to know what you're going to because it
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: is so unique to go down there for– 2030, and
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: in my case, that was the longest time I was
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: ever submerged was 58 days when we did that North
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Pole expedition before we hit our first, before we surfaced
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: at the North Pole. But even more so, confining, when
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: you think about it up there at the North Pole
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: or above the Arctic Circle, there were many places where
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: that ice was 250 to 300 feet thick. So you're
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: not coming up through that. We can, as advertised, at
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: my class of submarine, we could bust through anything from
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: eight feet or less of ice. So where the mission
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: took us, if that ice was that thick above us,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: we always had to keep mind and plotted. If, in fact,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: we did have a casualty, a fire or flooding that
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: we needed to get up, that we would have to
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: sprint back to what they call a surfacable feature, which
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: would be less than eight feet of ice.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And there's no contingency plan to blow through the ice?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Like there's no, you know, you had some kind of...
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: of secret?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Mother nature wins at war every time. In fact, I
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: tell people up at the USS Cincinnati Memorial, because the
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: actual conning tower from the Cincinnati is up there and
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you can see the ladder rungs. In our case, in
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: my submarine, we had 28 ladder rungs on the outside
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: of the conning tower, which does give you access to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to the the bridge and actually inside the boat if
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: you're in port or whatever like that we surfaced up
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: there because gps was just becoming and that was one
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: of the tests that we were evaluating the gps system
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: back in 1987 so we actually surfaced 22 different times
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: when we got back to connecticut every one of those
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: 28 rungs were broken off and those babies were welded
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: on so That gives you some idea of the force
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: that you're dealing with up there.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, I would say, but that reminds me of Daniel
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Davis yesterday talking about you could drop the biggest nuclear
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: weapon we have on Pickaxe Mountain, which is solid granite,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and it wouldn't do anything to reach down probably to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: get to wherever the centrifuges of the nuclear technology is.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: That's insane, man. 250 feet of solid ice. I'm sorry, brother.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: That would creep me out, man. Oh, my God.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Well, we keep busy at work. And, you know, when
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: you got your mind on the cribbage game, you can
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: forget about all that other stuff.
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  Speaker 10: Amen.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: And congratulations on the skunk victory last Wednesday. It was
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: probably the highlight of my day, given the aftermath of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: the election results. God bless you, Mike. Thank you again
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: for your service. And, you know, I have just– listener lunch.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Salute to listener lunch. I have a friend in Mike
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Wahlberg because of the listener lunch.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: And, Brian, if I might real quick. I want to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: thank you and Joe for what you do throughout the year.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Between your weekly guests, as you mentioned, like Daniel Davis,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: all the military authors that you have on your program,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: representatives from the VA, and, of course, God bless Steve
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: and the Claremont County Veterans Servants Office. I have never
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: known anyone that has a public voice, and what Joe
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: does is schedule those guests. year in and year out
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: to support our active duty and our veterans. And I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: think I speak for every one of your listeners with
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: a big heartfelt thank you, Brian Thomas and Joe Strecker.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: You are more than welcome. It is absolutely the least
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: that he and I can do for the American veteran. Small, small.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Just pledge to the American veteran. We'll continue to advance
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: your causes here on the 55KRC Morning Show. We know
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: what you guys are responsible for, and God bless each
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and every one of you. Mike, God bless you particularly.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: I'm blessed to have you as a friend. 645 right now,
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  Speaker 1: 55 Care CD Talk Station. Data Center Moratoriums, that's what
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the left wants. Bad idea. Get to that in just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a second. Don't go away. I want to mention 55
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Care CD Talk Station, Veterans Day, and a happy one
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: to you. Jack Atherton, waiting in the wings after the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: top of the hour news, the big picture. In the meantime,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: let's get Mike's call in here. Mike, welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: morning show.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Brian. First of all, I want to say thank
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: you to all the veterans out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of friends and family, both of them. They
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: were veterans. But about a week ago, Finally made it
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: up to the USS Cincinnati. I only live like 10
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: minutes from it, but finally made it up there. I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: was just amazed how small those things are.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: Like you were talking to Mike, and I was like,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: there's like a couple hundred people in that thing. I'm like, how?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: But there are masses of Tetris up there.
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  Speaker 1: Being there two months, he was in there 59 days.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: He was in a submarine six total years of his
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: life if you had it all together. I just think
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: that's mind-boggling. Anyhow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of days.
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  Speaker 7: I've been like, no, I'm going home.
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  Speaker 1: Get up to the USS Cincinnati Memorial. It's up there
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: at Voice of America Park. And while you're there, check
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: out the Broadcast Museum, tying it all in together. Appreciate
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the call, Mike. I do. And I got to get
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: this in. Authored by Daniel LaCalle. I found it over
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: at Zero Hedge. Data center moratorium. Madness is Beijing's biggest gift.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: So you folks out there who hate him, let's contemplate
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: what it means. Barely 48 hours after the midterms, Bernie
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Sanders posted five words that should alarm anybody who cares
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: about American prosperity and security, quote, national data center moratorium now.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: He's not alone in screaming about this being a day
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: one priority for the new Democratic majority after January. The
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Artificial Intelligence Data Center Moratorium Act, introduced by Sanders and,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: of course, AOC, would impose an immediate federal freeze on
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the construction of new data centers in and the expansion
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: of existing ones until Congress passes comprehensive legislation. In practice,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: that means an open-ended ban, conditional on Washington's agreeing on
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: everything from labor policy to civil rights and the meaning
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: of quote-unquote safe AI. Anybody who's watched Congress try to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: pass a budget knows how long that's going to take.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: This is the most self-destructive industrial policy proposal in the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: developed world since Germany decided to shut down its nuclear
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: plants while importing Russian gas. And Beijing... could not have
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: designed it better. Problem didn't start with the midterms, and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: it's not limited to one party. In Texas, Republican Governor
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Greg Abbott paused grid approvals for data centers of 75
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: megawatts or more in August, then halted environmental risk permits
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: in September. Texas paused alone, putting almost 20% of the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: entire U.S. data center pipeline at risk of delay. Now
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: you got Governor-elect Gina Hinojosa, who's promised to turn that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: pause into a formal moratorium. While American towns vote to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: ban infrastructure of the future, China treats compute as a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: strategic priority on the same level as energy and defense.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Ministry of Industry and Information Technology reports that national intelligent
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: computing capacity rose 146% year-on-year. Beijing's new five-year plan targets
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: 3.8 trillion yuan of cumulative investment in information infrastructure. China's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: data center capacity is expected to grow from 32 gigawatts
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: at the end of last year to 40 at the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: end of this year and above 60 by 2030. The
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: energy behind the expansion is the part Western activists prefer
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: to ignore. China added a record 430 gigawatts of wind
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: and solar capacity in last year and at the same
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: time commissioned 78 gigawatts of coal power. Highest annual figure
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: in a decade. Total installed generating capacity rose 16.1% in
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a single year. Beijing does not ask whether it should
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: build data centers or power plants. It builds both simultaneously
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and plans the grid around the compute. A 100 megawatt
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Chinese facility can be completed in less than 12 months
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: compared to around 24 here in the United States and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: 42 in Germany. Defenders of the moratoriums argue that the U.S.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: is so far ahead that it can afford to pause.
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  Speaker 1: That is a dangerous misreading of the data. Yes, America
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: is in lead. Since 2022, 72% of the world's AI
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: compute has ended up in the United States. Only 10%
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: in China.
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  Speaker 8: The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Share of newly acquired compute rose 78% in the first
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: half of this year. But in a technology race, the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: stock of capacity matters less than the rate of addition.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Model scaling interference at a scale and the deployment of
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: applications in industry, healthcare, defense depend on how fast the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: new compute comes online. China's binding constraint is access to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: advanced chips, which U.S. export controls deliberately restrict. America's binding
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: constraint is power and politics. The moratorium movement takes one
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: bottleneck Beijing cannot fix with money and adds a second
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: one that Washington imposes on itself. Every year of delay
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: in Ohio, Texas, or New York is a year in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: which Huawei, domestic Chinese chip makers, and state-backed clusters get
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: closer while America capacity stalls. Usual justification abandons the electricity bill.
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  Speaker 1: The real problem is lack of supply.
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  Speaker 2: U.S.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Interconnection queue holds roughly 2,600 gigawatts of generation and storage projects,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: more than double the existing grid, and the median wait
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: for application to commercial operation around five years. When demand rises,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: supply is blocked, price rises. The solution is to unblock
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: supply and accelerate permits for gas, nuclear, and transmission. Require
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: large users to bring and pay for their own generation.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Banning demand is the policy equivalent of fixing a housing
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: shortage by forbidding families from having children. It addresses the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: symptom by destroying the source of growth. AI is already improving. targeting, logistics,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: electronic warfare, intelligence analysis, autonomous systems, computers to modern defense,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: what steel output was to the 20th century, a relative
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: slowdown in American capacity narrows the margin of superiority on
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: which deterrence depends. Data center backlash, a perfect example of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the precautionary principle turned into economic suicide. Every concern raised
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: by opponents, from water use to grid reliability to electricity bills,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: has a solution that involves building more, not less. More generation,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: more transmission, faster permits, clear rules on who pays for
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: grid upgrades, and on-site power for the largest loads. A
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: moratorium solves none of those problems, simply guaranteeing that the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: most important infrastructure of the century gets built somewhere else,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: under a regime that does not care about American ratepayers,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: American workers, or American values. The United States won the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: internet the cloud, and the smartphone because it built faster
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: than anyone else. If it now decides to stop building,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: it should not be surprised when the future is written
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: by China. Amen. Jack Atherton with the big picture at
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: the top of the hour news. Hope you can stick around.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Talk about the change. It's 7.05. at 55 KRC Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: It being a Wednesday, this is a great time of
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: week to be tuned in to the 55 KRC Morning
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Show because this moment in time every Wednesday on the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: morning show we get the brilliance of Jack Atherton. We
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: all remember Jack, anchorman, author, lawyer, raconteur, and historian. Jack,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: always appreciate your brilliance shining through every week. Welcome back
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to the show, my dear friend.
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  Speaker 12: Thanks so much, Brian. And a big salute to To
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 12: all veterans and active duty members, including my late dad,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: who served in the Navy in World War II, the
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 12: terrible irony is that the thing our veterans protected, free elections,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 12: may have just put America in grave danger if we,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 12: the people, don't protect our Constitution. But, brother, I don't
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 12: want to be gloomy. Let's lighten things up. We can't
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 12: laugh off another looming disaster for which both parties are responsible.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 12: But maybe the Marx Brothers can. 90 years ago, nobody
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 12: dreamed America's national debt could ever reach $ 40 trillion. Nobody
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 12: even knew how many zeros it took to write $ 1 trillion.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 12: So I looked it up.
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  Speaker 6: 12.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: That same number comes up in the movie Duck Soup. Groucho,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 12: who has somehow become the president of a tiny country, Fredonia,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 12: asks a neighboring country for a loan of $ 20 million.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 12: They turn him down. Well, Groucho says, can you let
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 12: me have $ 12 until payday? I'll give you my personal
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 12: note for 90 days. If it isn't paid by then,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 12: you can keep the note. In effect, America is asking
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 12: our creditors, the countries and people who buy our government bonds,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 12: to accept a personal note for $ 40 trillion. In return,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 12: we actually pay those creditors $ 80 billion in interest every month,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 12: money that could go back into the pockets of taxpayers
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 12: or do some other good. Not all countries can get
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: away with this. What makes America different from France? Not
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 12: that much. They have Dom Perignon champagne. We have Pappy
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 12: Van Winkle bourbon. They have socialists burning down Paris and Limoges.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 12: We have socialists burning down Minnesota and Portland. The biggest
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 12: difference is is that the French cannot print money. The
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 12: Euro is not the world's biggest reserve currency. Our good
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 12: old U.S. greenbacks, or with everybody, from Red China to U.S.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 12: pension funds, want to squirrel away. For now. Until the U.S.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 12: government reveals itself to be an incorrigible, deadbeat, spendthrift debtor.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 12: Which could happen sooner than you think. 250 years ago,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 12: the newly independent... and not yet fully United States were
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 12: in the same position as Groucho begging for a $ 12 loan.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 12: Congress could not pay wages to the Continental Army. And
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 12: that pretty much continued for another seven years of the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 12: war until officers asked George Washington to declare himself King.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 12: In response, the General took out a letter he'd received
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 12: from a member of Congress asking for patience. Washington could
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 12: not read the letter aloud until for the first time
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 12: in public, he wore reading glasses. Gentlemen, the general said,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 12: you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 12: I have grown not only gray, but almost blind in
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 12: the service of my country. The rebuked officers openly wept,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 12: and Congress was more or less given Groucho's 90 days
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 12: to make good on its obligation. That never happens anymore.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 12: We just keep issuing Groucho notes, $ 40 trillion worth. Creditors
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 12: keep buying them because we keep paying that 80 billion
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 12: bucks a month in interest. And we keep on spending
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 12: money we don't really have. Our currency has not been
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 12: tied to anything real since Richard Nixon took us off
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 12: the gold standard in 1971. Not because James Bond's Goldfinger
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 12: tried raiding Fort Knox. We ditched the gold standard. because
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 12: the U.S. was issuing more dollars than we could back
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 12: up with gold or anything else other than our productivity
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: and promise to pay. The biggest reason we need $ 40
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 12: trillion in debt is to pay for our three biggest entitlements,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 12: which keep ballooning every year. Social Security, Medicare for seniors,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 12: and Medicaid for lower-income and disabled people. Social Security is
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 12: supposed to be self-sustaining, but it's never kept up with
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 12: longer lifespans. And the Democrats' demand of Medicaid for all is,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 12: in effect, socialized medicine. Apart from the fact that socialized
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 12: medicine in other countries provides substandard rationed care, unless you
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 12: can pay for your own treatment, socialized medicine is also
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 12: bankrupt in countries that cannot issue Groucho's Notes, that cannot
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 12: print money like the U.S. of A. Now, in fairness,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 12: Republicans have done almost nothing to reform entitlements. When it
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 12: comes to Obamacare, which was always intended to be a
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 12: glide path to national health care, Republicans in Trump's first
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 12: term repealed the mandate for everyone to obtain an Obamacare-compliant policy.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 12: That was good, but they passed nothing to take its place,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 12: even though Trump said he would sign any health reform bill.
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  Speaker 12: His Republican majority in the pocket of insurance companies refused
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 12: even minimal reform, like expanding personal health savings accounts or
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 12: making insurance portable from one job to another and across
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 12: state lines. That's just one reason Republicans lost their majorities,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 12: paving the way for Democrat disaster. As Groucho would say
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 12: of Republicans, marry me and I'll take a vacation. And
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 12: as the stars of Duck Soup would say of Democrat socialists, Well, Brian,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 12: there's nothing you really can say other than duck. What
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 12: do you say, my non-Marxist brother?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that because I think I've seen all the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Marx Brothers movies and some of them stand up better
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: at the time than others, but very funny they were.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: But you mentioned the mandate, the Obamacare mandate. That was
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: the one thing the Supreme Court gave us by way
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: of gift because they said you can't use the Commerce
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Clause to force people to buy something. So that just
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: ruined the entire Obamacare model. So what do they give
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: us in return? They take away choice in the world.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: You can effectively achieve a mandate by taking away the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: options that exist to avoid the Obamacare mandate, which is
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: what we have right now, at least some measure of
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: flexibility with the private insurance market, but they're clamoring to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: get rid of it. I mean, forcing you to capitulate. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jack, you mentioned $ 40 trillion. That is exactly
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the price tag. I believe it was Cato and many others,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: the number crunchers, have put on the price tag for
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Medicare for all over 10 years. I'm just still waiting
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: for one of these leftists to explain to me how
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  Speaker 1: we're going to pay for it. I mean, at some point,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: we're going to have to pay so much interest on
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: the bonds that people still buy, they're going to be
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: considered junk bonds. Yeah, it's risky because the fiat currency
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: in the United States is, well, rapidly being printed into oblivion.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: But you know what? We're willing to pay north of 10%
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: if you're willing to back us and continue to back
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: this printing press. That can't last forever, Jack. I just
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: don't understand. Volcano.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 12: And you've been talking about another problem, huge problem. And
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 12: now we've got Jensen Huang involved in it, what's going
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 12: on with AI and the chips. We've got Democrats, including Hinojosa,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 12: the new governor of Texas, saying that she's going to
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 12: put not just a moratorium, she may shut down the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 12: entire industry for a while, but that may ultimately be permanent.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 12: Who knows what they're going to do? And there's another
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 12: problem related to that, Brian. that you would have gotten
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 12: around to, I know. A few geniuses are launching these
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 12: new technologies, but we ignore declining standards with a total
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 12: absence of standards for every one of our inner-city.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Public school students who have to.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 12: Go to these union-run schools. And the unions, of course,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 12: were the biggest winners in the last election. We ignore
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 12: also the fact that the U.S. birth rate has been
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 12: declining for the last decade, falling well below the replacement
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 12: rate And that endangers social security and other social payments
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 12: that are supposed to be sustained by people who are
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 12: earning wages in this country, not just being given welfare.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 12: No matter how much money you take from billionaires, you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 12: can't make up for the fact that too few people
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 12: are actually out there earning money. Now, we're not the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: first society to ignore these warnings and others. Take the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 12: most glaring example. Hitler, in his book Mein Kampf, My Struggle,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 12: told the world, exactly what he was going to do,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 12: yet he was freely elected. He was made chancellor, and
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 12: then he became a dictator. Democrats have told us they
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 12: plan to pack the Supreme Court with leftists, make Washington
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 12: DC and Puerto Rico states, and take other measures that
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 12: will fundamentally transform, as Barack Obama promised, America into a
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: one-party nation. We have been warned. The time is now
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 12: to prepare for the 2028 presidential and congressional elections.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: And getting rid of the electoral college is another one
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: of their short list of items. They just cannot wait
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: because you look at the state of Ohio and you
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: got all of those red counties that can't compete with
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: the population density of these left-wing cities. That's basically what
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: it would look like in the map of the United States.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: All those dark blue areas with dominant Democrat population zones
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: will outvote the rest of America if you get rid
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: of the Electoral College. So we are going to be
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: governed by Californians and New Yorkers. It's just a frightening,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: frightening reality if that sets in, Jack. I mean, they
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: want to get rid of the Constitution.
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  Speaker 11: It is.
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  Speaker 12: And once again, let's go back to the people who
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 12: are trying to protect that Constitution. And we've got to
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 12: hope that we keep it strong. I was very disheartened
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 12: to see that Republicans are not taking a more aggressive stance. Yes,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 12: Jim Jordan, thank goodness, is going to be leading the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 12: minority caucus in the House. But my goodness, how do
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 12: we go back to John Thun?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I understand. And, Jack, just a thought question. I've asked
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: this question out loud before. Before we part company, I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: may as well throw it out there since, again, going
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: back to the $ 40 trillion hole that we've dug for ourselves.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: That's $ 40 trillion additional dollars that were pumped into the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: American economy over that period of time. What would the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: country look like if we hadn't created a fake additional
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: $ 40 trillion and pumped it into the economy, Jack? What
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: would we look like?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 12: Well, you know, you can't go back to Jefferson's agrarian
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 12: United States. There's been a debate ever since our founding
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 12: between the Jeffersonians and Madison joined that group too, who said,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 12: you know, we have to keep the federal government as
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 12: small as possible so that the rest of the country
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 12: can continue to be productive. It won't be crowded out
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 12: by government spending. Hamilton, on the other hand, was in
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 12: favor of a big government, and I suspect that's one
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 12: reason that he's become a hero to the left. Also,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 12: his ties to colonialism. He was born, of course, in
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 12: the Caribbean. But Hamilton wanted our country to grow big.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 12: He wasn't a modern-day Democrat. Go ahead and read the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 12: Ron Chernow biography of Hamilton, which is the basis of
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 12: the musical, and you'll find that Hamilton was much more
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 12: complex and much more of a Jeffersonian than he's ever
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 12: given credit for now. But, yes, this country would have
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 12: to rely on the kind of people who came to
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 12: America in order to find freedom. Not freedom to obtain welfare,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 12: but freedom to work and create businesses. And we're losing
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 12: those people.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: We are.
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  Speaker 1: And isn't that how we became so great? There was
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: no guarantee of a free plate of food or shelter
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: or housing or Social Security or medical or anything. You
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: came here because you had the resources to get here.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: You had an idea and confidence in yourself and we
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: were the true bastion of freedom compared to the rest
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: of the world where your ideas might bear fruit and
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: in order to your benefit and certainly the country's benefit.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Now it's just, we seem to be overwhelmed with people
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: that just want free stuff and things. And it's a
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: sad thing when our own population expects free stuff and
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: things when they're free to get up and work and,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: and earn and participate and then earn the right also
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: to complain about taxation.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 12: So once again, on this veterans day, Let's not just salute.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 12: Let's support the people who are out protecting the Constitution.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: And leave it on that positive note. Happy Veterans Day,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Jack Atherton. As always, best of health and love to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: you and your better half. We'll do this again next Wednesday.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate your time here on the 55KRC Morning Show.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: 729-55KRC Talk Station. He's not going anywhere, neither is Americans
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: for Prosperity Action in Ohio. He's Donovan O'Neill, and he's back.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: State Director of the aforementioned. Welcome back, Donovan Neal. Pick
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: yourself up, brush yourself off, and start all over again, right?
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  Speaker 8: It's been one week, and the country hasn't burned down yet, Brian.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Operative word, yet. Give it time, Donovan.
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  Speaker 4: All right, all right.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, a little too cheery this morning.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: That's all right. It's Veterans Day, and salute to the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: American veteran. I've been trying to bring that up all morning,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: and I do appreciate the veterans. They're still fighting for
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: us and our freedoms and liberties. And Americans for Prosperity
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: is still fighting. Apparently, we're going to get America building again.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: What is the B-A-A-J-A, which has the bipartisan word in
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: front of it? This is something both Republicans and Democrats want, Donovan?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 8: It is. So Baja, as it's called, because Congress just
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 8: can't help themselves with clever names. It is the Bipartisan
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 8: American Affordability and Jobs Act. And it is a piece
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 8: of legislation that actually crossed a major milestone just a
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 8: day or two ago with, I think, about 73 votes
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 8: in the Senate. It has sort of been off the
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 8: radar probably for most of your listeners and most folks
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 8: because it moved out of committee, I think, September 30th.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 8: So just before we were all in the fever pitch
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 8: of the election, Congress actually– or the Senate actually did
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: some stuff– And now it's finally getting brought up. But
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 8: it brings together a bunch of different ideas, stuff we've
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: talked about, like from the Speed Act and other legislation
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 8: to reform permitting and many of the federal rules and
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 8: regulations that are keeping America from getting energy produced.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Energy produced. And my understanding is, and I think it's
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: funny that they actually put the word bipartisan in the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: name of the bill, Donovan. OK, but. Going back to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: my point earlier, our energy demands continue to increase, right?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Artificial intelligence is only one reason our energy demands continue
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: to increase. Infrastructure, transmission lines, all of that needs to
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: be built. So if you stand in the way of it,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: we're not going to be at our own energy needs.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: So the Democrats are behind this because they want this
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: to speed up permitting for all of their green, get
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: rid of plant food efforts through legislation. The Republicans want
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: to do this because they want to grease the skids
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: to get effective, reliable energy out of the ground and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: transmission lines built. So we've got, it's an all of
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: the above approach is the way I understand this, Donovan,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: or do I have it wrong?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 8: No, I think it's right. Because I think, you know, finally,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 8: and it takes a while for Congress to do anything,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: but I think, you know, the men and women who
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 8: represent us in Washington, D.C. across party lines recognized America's
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 8: falling behind, right? And you mentioned it, AI and data centers,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: that stuff is is putting a strain on the grid,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: but it also has global national security issues. You know,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 8: our friends at Concerned Veterans for America, CVA, they've joined
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 8: the show with you before, I know, and it's something
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: they've been hammering on for a lot of years, right?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 8: If for nothing else, let's get the energy permitting processes
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 8: in this country resolved and moving because we, you know,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: we have global threats out there that if we can't
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 8: produce The armaments we need, if we can't manufacture and
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 8: grow our economy with cheap, reliable, affordable energy, we're going
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 8: to fall behind. And so from a national defense perspective
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 8: to getting what makes the green energy folks happy with
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 8: getting their projects off the ground to the baseload energy
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: that all of us, the youth from nuclear to coal
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: to natural gas and everything in between care about. this
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 8: is the kind of legislation we've got to do to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: get it done for a number of reasons, and finally
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: folks are around the table and actually moving on something
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: that could happen before the end of the year.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Well, the N-word was in there. You mentioned Baja contains
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: or may address our demands, our nuclear demands, which will
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: literally satisfy all the problems we face. In order to
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: bring about this artificial intelligence needs to exist, but it
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: needs to pay for its own power, I think the
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: only solid, reliable answer is the small modular reactor, which
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: they can bring with them. The only thing standing in
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: the way of that is federal government regulations over nuclear power.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: So to make good on the bring your own power solution,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: that's where we need the permitting reform. Does the Baja
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: actually specifically mention nuclear in terms of reducing the regulatory
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: challenges that anybody faces when they want to even consider nuclear?
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  Speaker 8: I think it does begin to address some of that.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: The challenges with nuclear are always the national defense perspective.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 8: But I was actually in a meeting in Columbus back
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: on Monday with Cato Institute and a handful of other
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 8: folks talking about some opportunities for reform. And nuclear came up, Brian.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 8: And one of the things that were pointed out there was,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: would with some of this legislation and some things that
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: are happening at the state level, the opportunity exists. We're
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 8: not going to build maybe a big you know, seven
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: mile Island type nuclear facility. But like you're pointing out
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: these small, these SMR, small modular reactors, they might be
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: able to work under the, the onerous regulations that exist
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 8: at the federal level so that we can get these,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: you know, projects online, get that energy onto the grid.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 8: Part of the solution too, and it's getting talked about
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: more and more is, is going with micro grids where
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: we have, um, you know, a data center or a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: number of manufacturers come together and finance and off the,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 8: you know, um, uh, behind the meter energy generation, you
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: could do that with SMRs. And I think that's part of,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: I hate to say loophole, cause it sounds like somebody's
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 8: circumventing something for nefarious reasons.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 8: But part of what I believe would be at loophole
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 8: from the federal regulators that have just, it just don't
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 8: move and just don't do the, the, the, the due
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 8: diligence to get these projects off the ground.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: They just wait the people out and, we the people suffer.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know what it does in terms of noise,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: but I know GE manufacturers, you know, jet engines that
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: they convert into power plants. And they're small as well.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's an easy solution. And again, how many
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: of these you would need to generate the power you
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: need in an AI center, I don't know. But I
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: know those exist. I had a friend of mine that
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: would go around the world installing them in various third
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: world countries where they didn't have any electricity. And most notably,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: he mentioned even the drug cartels would buy these things
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: to power their needs and also provide local communities with electricity,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: making everyone happy. So options exist, Donovan. Well, they sure do.
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  Speaker 8: You know, another thing I want to make sure I
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 8: point to while we're on here talking about this today
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: is shot clocks. We did this with House Bill 15
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 8: here in Ohio. That was the legislation that undid the
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: nuclear bailout legislation and affirmed market approach, a free market
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 8: approach to energy in the state. But shot clocks, you know,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 8: how many times do you hear about these stories, right,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 8: where the federal agency just keeps asking for more or
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: starts the paperwork and then some other third party shows
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: up And they have to restart the paperwork. 60-day shot clock, Brian.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 8: 60 days, the federal government has to have an answer.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 8: There's some other timelines that get applied here, right? But
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 8: in general, one of the biggest things that I've heard
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: in sitting with legislators and talking to folks in the
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 8: energy sector and ivory tower think tank types is people
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 8: just don't know when they're going to get it. They
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: put an application into the federal government, and they don't
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 8: know when they're going to get an answer. And they
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: don't have to get an answer.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 8: How do you get investment that way, right? How do
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 8: you get people to pony up cash to invest in
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: an energy project if you don't know when you're ever going,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: if you will ever see that money have a return?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Let me just throw out XL Pipeline.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: God almighty.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: It's on.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: It's off. It's on. It's off.
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  Speaker 12: It's on.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: It's off. Throw in your towel. I'm done with this.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: We'll continue. It's happening here in Ohio. Give Ohioans more
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: say over costly rules. Donovan Neal on rains in the
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: talk station. 7.41 here, 55KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas with
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill, Americans for Prosperity. All right, pivoting away from
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  Speaker 1: Washington and back to Columbus, REINS is a lamed-up priority
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  Speaker 1: for everyone, I think, in my listening audience. It is
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: for Americans for Prosperity. Remind my listeners what's going on
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  Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio, and is there any
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  Speaker 1: chance of this actually moving forward while the Republicans maintain
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  Speaker 1: a supermajority?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so REINS, another clever acronym from the politicians, is
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 8: the Regulations... from the executive in need of scrutiny. And
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  Speaker 8: what this legislation would do is proactively curb red tape
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  Speaker 8: rules and regulations, especially focused on the ones that have
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  Speaker 8: a costly impact to the economy. And so, in short,
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  Speaker 8: the way this legislation works is, you know, the executive office, right,
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  Speaker 8: the governor will issue, you know, their office will issue
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  Speaker 8: some rules and regulations and they have to go before
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  Speaker 8: a committee called JCAR. It's made up of the legislature.
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  Speaker 8: That body reviews every one of those rules and regulations.
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  Speaker 8: But Raines would add another provision that would say if
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  Speaker 8: a rule or regulation has a certain economic impact threshold,
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  Speaker 8: it actually has to go to the whole legislature for approval.
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  Speaker 8: Because what happens here, Brian Wright, is we pass these
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  Speaker 8: laws 30, 40, 50 years ago. They don't get updated.
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  Speaker 8: And the bureaucrats, right, a clever bureaucrat who maybe they
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  Speaker 8: can't get a bill passed through the conservative legislature. But
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  Speaker 8: they sort of interpret the law a little more broadly
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  Speaker 8: than it was maybe originally envisioned, right?
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  Speaker 1: You like the Clean Water Act, which is supposed to
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: deal with navigable waters. And the next thing you know,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: they're regulating a tablespoon of water on your private property
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  Speaker 1: under that. Yeah, a little legislative creep there, a regulatory creep.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly. That regulatory creep. Well, you've got to take that.
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  Speaker 8: If rains were to be enacted, you'd have to take
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  Speaker 8: that back to the full legislature. And, you know, if
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  Speaker 8: they agree and say, yeah, that, you know, the environmental benefits, right,
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  Speaker 8: or the public benefits outweigh the economic impact we approve.
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  Speaker 8: That's all this bill does, right? This idea, this rains
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  Speaker 8: act idea does is make sure that the legislature, the
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  Speaker 8: people we elect to represent us in Columbus, right? you know,
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  Speaker 8: have a say in these types of things. And so
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  Speaker 8: it's an important check on the executive branch when you
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  Speaker 8: have these rules and regulations proliferate.
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  Speaker 1: So with Governor Amy, I still struggle with that, Donovan.
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  Speaker 1: Governor Amy Acton, boy, that hurts in the back of
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: my throat, like bile back there when I say it.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, so if she decides she wants to shut
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  Speaker 1: down the state of Ohio because of, oh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: the flu, then They'll be able to stand in her way.
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  Speaker 1: Just trying to shoehorn this into an Amy lockdown acting scenario. Donovan,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's the area that is absolutely, you know,
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  Speaker 8: one of the ideas here of making sure that does
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  Speaker 8: not happen again. I think beyond that, though, right there,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 8: there are. you know, they literally enact, you know, hundreds,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 8: if not thousands of rules and regulations every year. By
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 8: the way, Republicans and we'll presume Democrats will follow suit
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  Speaker 8: if not supercharge that. This REINS Act kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 8: keeps those, even those less maybe visible rules and regulations, right,
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  Speaker 8: from ever going into effect or at least putting a
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  Speaker 8: stopgap on them to make sure that the people and
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  Speaker 8: their representatives have an opportunity to make, to have a
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  Speaker 8: say on it. So, You know, one thing I want
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  Speaker 8: to point out here, too, because this has come up
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  Speaker 8: in the national narrative, is that, you know, Republican legislatures
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  Speaker 8: are trying to, you know, curb executive offices. You know,
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  Speaker 8: this was something that was in the state budget last year.
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  Speaker 8: We wanted to put this the Republican legislature wanted to
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  Speaker 8: put this check in place over. Republican governor, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So this isn't something to just curb Democrats or, you know,
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  Speaker 8: thwart executive power. Well, it is to curb executive power,
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  Speaker 8: both for Republicans and Democrats. It's good public policy and
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  Speaker 8: something we're going to be pushing for over the next
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  Speaker 8: few weeks during the Ohio lame duck session.
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  Speaker 13: Good.
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  Speaker 1: It's good public policy also because with the rains act
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  Speaker 1: in effect, it will force our elected officials to draft
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  Speaker 1: more contemplative future thinking legislation.
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  Speaker 4: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: We need to draft this tightly so it can't be
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  Speaker 1: expanded through regulatory creep in the background, or we need
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: to articulate the specific reasons for any given piece of
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  Speaker 1: legislation so it can't be used to shoehorn in broader
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: regulatory reaches because it's so loosely written. This would force
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: them to do their job better, wouldn't it?
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  Speaker 8: Well, and interestingly enough, that's one of the reasons I've
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 8: been told, we've been told, and this isn't just in Ohio,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 8: it's around the country where AFP works on this legislation—
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: There are legislators who say, well, isn't that going to
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 8: make us have to consider more bills or do more work?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, Mr. Representative, you will do your job.
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  Speaker 1: Damn right it is.
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  Speaker 8: That's what we need you to do is have that oversight,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 8: be that check and balance.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: It's part of their job description. Yes, you need to
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: work and draft proper legislation so it can't be misinterpreted.
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  Speaker 1: God bless America, Donovan, the nerve of some people to
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: say something like that out loud. I mean, maybe me
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: thinking it. Which is why I brought up the concept,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: but clearly that's on their agenda and they don't want
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: to do it.
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  Speaker 11: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Pathetic. Donovan, what do we need to do?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 8: They don't want to be on the record.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: No, they don't want to be on the record. Anyway,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: typical politicians don't expect much from them. They're not going
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: to deliver. State Director AFP Action and How, Donovan O'Neill.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: What are our action items? Getting in touch with our
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: elected officials while they're still there.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 8: Get in touch with your elected officials. And you can
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 8: always go to BuckeyeBlueprint.com. We're going to be working hard.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 8: We're going to be traveling around the state in December,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 8: firing folks up and helping set a course forward for
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: the next Congress, the next administration. And we want you
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: to join us, BuckeyeBlueprint.com.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: BuckeyeBlueprint.com or just, you know, look up your elected officials'
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: contact information. Get in touch with them. This is an
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: important issue. I'd like to have it enshrined in law before, well,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: it hits the fan after January. Donovan Neal, thank you
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: for all the work that you do on behalf of Ohioans,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: even though some of them don't appreciate it. I know
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: you're there and you got our collective best interest at heart,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: and I'll look forward to having you back on the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: program next Wednesday, my friend. Stick around on Top of
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: the Hour News. Got plenty of time. I'd love to
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: hear from listeners. Got some time to fill between Top
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: of the Hour and Judge Anna Napolitano at 8.30, so
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: feel free to set the subject matter and help me
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: out here on a beautiful Wednesday. Scary stuff. Now, in
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: spite of the fact that Trump the other day said
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: the Iran war is effectively over, on Monday this week,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: the U.S. had to evacuate several military aircraft from the
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: Mendenhall Air Force Base in the U.K. Second time we
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: had to jockey planes around. Remember in October we withdrew
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: our U.S. B-1 bombers from the Fairford Air Base? We've
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: used that one since World War II. Now, the problem is,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: of course, the Iranian threat. It was reported on Monday
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: the Iranian threat prompted the shuffle of refueling tankers from Mendenhall, Germany,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: and other locations. British press reported that three Ospreys also evacuated.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: It's very concerning. The message, at least according to the
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: numbers crunchers, the political observers, Iran taking the war beyond
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: the Middle East to strike the U.S. and its allies
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere they have anything. Britain's MI5, UK's MI5
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: track more than 20 potentially lethal Iran-backed plots in the UK.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Last year alone, the last 12 months, they've made more
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: than 50 arrests related to Iran-linked operations. Obviously, outside of
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: the theater of kinetic combat around Iran. We know Iran's
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: been targeting military bases in the countries, well, around Iran.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, all of our military bases, billions and billions
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: of dollars Based on these cheap shots, they can launch
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: these missiles that they're still building, drone strikes. It's all
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: very obvious. And Treasury Secretary Scott Besant had to move
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: out of his home yesterday onto a military base after
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: Iranian threats. against his life. According to a senior administration official,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: the move shows the Treasury's strategy regarding Iran is working
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: because Iran is trying to get the architect of that strategy.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Threats against Secretary Besant reached more than the advanced stage,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: which is why he and his family made the move.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: It's frightening stuff. Stay frosty, be prepared, keep your head
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: on a swivel, I guess, because, you know, they'll slowly
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: move down the target list. Stage has been set for this.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: I've always been concerned about, you know, I jokingly referred
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: to Canada getting pissed off at the United States, which
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: they are currently in deciding that, well, Donald Trump's a terrorist,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: so they decide to launch a cruise missile at him.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: We do that kind of stuff all the time. We
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: weren't at war with Libya when Barack Obama killed their leader.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: There's that whole idea of congressional control before waging war. Well,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: the Iranians got the memo. They're expanding their reach, and
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: the way they do that is really, really, really cheap
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: technology that's easily manufactured wherever the hell they want to
• 1:39:36
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• 1:40:01
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• 1:40:06
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• 1:40:07
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  Speaker 1: and the next generation to teach our children what these
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: men and women did so their example is not lost.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Just worry about America, our military readiness, obviously in serious jeopardy,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: considering even just the health status of young people in America,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: let alone whether or not they have any patriotism left.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: So a salute to each and every one of you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for what you've done. And Mike Wilson.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pivot over to Mike Wilson, who had
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: a very thoughtful analysis of last week's election, and I
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: want to salute him because Mike, remember him, the Tea
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Party guy? He ran for office. He founded the Cincinnati
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: Tea Party. And I remember those days, 2009. I hadn't
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: been on the radio even that long. And I supported
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: him in his run. He ran as a Republican. But
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: he understood that the limited scope of the Republican Party
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: platform could be perfected by just honing it down. Fiscal responsibility,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: limited government, free market.
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  Speaker 8: That's it.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: So he wrote this. Just a few, man, yesterday late.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: I spent the last week thinking about the election results,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm increasingly convinced way too many Republicans are learning
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: exactly the wrong lesson from them. I say this as
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: someone who has generally voted Republican in primaries, founded the
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Tea Party, ran for office twice, remained substantially close
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: to Republicans and Democrats on policy, but party identity has
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: always made me somewhat uncomfortable, and lately more than usual.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: And this is where I, Brian Thomas, fall in. So
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I always identify myself as a little libertarian because I
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: believe in those core three principles that the Tea Party had,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: which are really embodiment of what libertarianism is. I'll leave
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: you alone. You leave me alone. Let's not interfere with
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: each other's enjoyment of life. Trust you with your zipper.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Trust you with your wallet. Get the hell out of
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: my life. And the government should sort of take that mantra.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: That's me. Mike writes, my problem, and frankly, what I
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: think is a big part of the GOP's problem with
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: the 2026 voters is the GOP needs to become more
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: credible and competent. Some of what I've seen since the
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: election has frankly been detached from reality. Now here's where
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: we get into the concerns about voting integrity. Higher than
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: normal off-cycle turnout is not evidence of massive fraud. Counties
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: moving substantially in the same direction during a wave election
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: is not evidence of fraud. A map showing Democrats winning
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: relatively small number of densely populated urban counties while Republicans
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: win many more rural counties is not evidence that something
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: nefarious happened. In fact, Those are perfectly logical outcomes in
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: a wave election. Investigate actual evidence of fraud. Amen. Absolutely.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: But starting with, quote, there's no way we could have
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: lost legitimately, close quote, and searching for patterns that confirm
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: it isn't skepticism, it's conspiracy thinking. And if losing itself
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: becomes evidence that an election must have been stolen, you've
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: constructed a worldview in which losing can never happen. teach
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: you anything. So putting aside for a moment the idea
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: that maybe the election was stolen, how about we try
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: to learn something here? Interjecting my words. Republicans desperately need
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: to learn from this loss, he writes. At the election level,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing much more introspection. After losing at least
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: seven Senate seats, Republican senators voted 31-15 against delaying their
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: leadership elections, then re-elected John Thune without opposition. It's hard
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: for me to understand how two-thirds of the remaining GOP
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: senators looked at the outcome and said running back in
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: the same leadership team was the best option. I think
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: both parties have constituencies that repel the broader electorate, but
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: for different reasons. Democrats have activist constituencies with political beliefs
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: I think are generally extreme and unpopular. Republicans should have
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: enormous opportunities to make those arguments. Instead, Republican politics increasingly
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: rewards fighting over governing, certainly over epistemic humility. an antagonism
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: towards institutions over competence. Donald Trump didn't create that dynamic.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: He was selected by it. And eventually that selection process
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: has consequences. Corruption became part of the Republican problem in
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: the selection. Donald Trump's crypto business created an obvious perception
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: of self-enrichment. The Epstein files compounded a credibility problem for
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: a movement that spent years demanding transparency about powerful people
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: and then struggled to satisfy those demands once it controlled
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: the government. The irony is, I think that Republicans are
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: frequently right on the policy arguments, but credibility is an asset.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: Tell voters enough exaggerated or false things, and eventually they
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: stop believing you when you're telling the truth. That's how
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Republicans can accurately describe a genuinely extreme Democratic position, and
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: ordinary voters respond, come on, nobody actually believes that. That's
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: political malpractice. Then Republicans lose some of those voters and
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: explain the loss by questioning the election and rather than
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: seriously consider what drove them away. And that's where my own,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Mike Wilson's, ambivalence about party identification matters. I understand why
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: less partisan voters get alienated by Republicans, because, increasingly, I
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: feel some of that alienation myself. That doesn't mean I
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: think the alternative offers better answers to most of the
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: policy questions I care about.
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  Speaker 11: I don't.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: But imagine. how this looks to somebody who doesn't start
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: where I do, and I'll interject Mike Wilson, weed dweller,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: thoughtful contemplator of matters political. That's not where most of
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: us are. They don't necessarily want centrism. They may not
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: have a coherent political ideology at all. They want people
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: who seem sane, competent, honest, and capable of governing. And
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: if Republicans can't consistently clear that bar, Having better answers
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: on a bunch of policy questions won't save them. The
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: legacy media is often unfair, biased. Your opponents will lie
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: about you. Voters will sometimes misunderstand what you've done, but
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: sometimes you lose because you screwed up. A healthy political
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: movement has to retain the ability to seriously consider that possibility. Otherwise,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: it isn't defending its principles, it's making itself progressively less
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: capable of implementing them. That's where I think the GOP
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: is today, Mike writes. The question for Republican elected officials
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: and primary voters who chose them is whether losing will
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  Speaker 1: cause them to reconsider the incentives that got them here
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  Speaker 1: or simply become one more piece of evidence that everyone
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: else is against them. Thoughtful analysis, Mike Wilson. I think
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  Speaker 1: we need to consider that. And yes, check into the
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  Speaker 1: The issues that we face. Investigate the evidence of fraud.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Look into the voting machines. Look into the paper ballots.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Contest elections, of course, that were very, very close. Sometimes
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: the ballots aren't counted right. And sometimes maybe there is
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: something nefarious going on. There's no problem looking into it.
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  Speaker 1: But do not miss this opportunity to reflect. I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe Democrats embraced all the left-wing bat crap insanity from
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: this DSA. Look at what they rejected. keeping men from
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: competing against women in sports. In deep blue states, those passed.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Voter ID passed. In states that went full-on blue. So
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: you're not mistaken that you are on the right side
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: of these political arguments. It's just that the water got
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: a bit muddied up, and it didn't help matters much
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: because we got into another war again. something Donald Trump
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: turned his back on, something that so many people embraced
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump for because he is, as has always been
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: demonstrated to be a peacekeeper, or at least endeavoring to
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: be a peacemaker ending wars. But he did promise he
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get into another one. And that burned a lot
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: of people. And what also really shocked me, and maybe
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: you have a perception about this, because what has also
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: been cited regularly is the tariffs that have been waged
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  Speaker 1: by this president. And that you and I are actually
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  Speaker 1: footing the bill for those when we were told it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be deficit reducing. Seemingly turning back on
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  Speaker 1: the doge work that was done. And I know it's
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  Speaker 1: still going on behind the scenes, but that was a
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  Speaker 1: really great opportunity for the Republicans to show something profound.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Protecting American taxpayer dollars from fraud, waste, and abuse. Something
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  Speaker 1: that bears no political stripe whatsoever. We are so knee-deep
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  Speaker 1: in debt that that effort alone should have elevated a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Republicans. We are the party, or Republicans are
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: the party, that are fighting against fraud, waste, and abuse
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  Speaker 1: more than anyone. It became a campaign platform, even for
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  Speaker 1: some Democrats. Take that ball and continue to run with it.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Government corruption is going to go away, and, of course,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: people bilking the system is never going to go away.
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  Speaker 1: Just start making it a little bit more difficult to
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  Speaker 1: even engage in those efforts. That is a popular winning strategy,
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  Speaker 1: one of many. Thanks, Mike Wilson. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis. Now,
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  Speaker 1: agree with it, disagree with it. You know, the phone
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: lines are open if you care to chime in on that.
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  Speaker 10: 503-749-5500.
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  Speaker 1: 800-823-TALK. Just like Drew Pappas has. Welcome back, Mr. Pappas.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure hearing from you on the 55
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  Speaker 5: I didn't realize we were on such formal terms, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that level of respect that being elected to
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  Speaker 1: high office carries with it. It's like Judge Napolitano. He
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a judge for years. We still call him Judge.
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  Speaker 5: Well, then address me as honorable.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, you're right. That's funny.
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  Speaker 5: It is kind of funny. I always giggled when I
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  Speaker 5: heard it, but I was like, who's honorable? Who are
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: you talking to? But anyway, listen, I know you spoke
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 5: about it at five o'clock hour, but many people were
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: doing other things at the five o'clock hour. I wanted
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: to bring up, I saw that fresh off of his
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: campaigning for, El Saeed up in Michigan, our genius, boy wonder,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: glamour shots, skinny jean wearing mayor gave the state of
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  Speaker 5: the city address.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday, right? It was yesterday. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: to see here. We're all safe. It's all great here.
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  Speaker 1: Crime's down.
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  Speaker 5: It's like there's no crime. It's like the scene from
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 5: Police Academy. There's nothing going on. And he's saying how
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: safe it is. But his big concern, you know, this guy,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: this guy who's never held an office that he was
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: interested in and only looks over the next rung on
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 5: the ladder to see what better is out there. Like,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: have you ever met somebody, ever been at a party
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: where you saw someone you knew and you're sitting there
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: shaking their hands, talking to them? And they're kind of
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: looking over your shoulder saying, hey, is there somebody else
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: more important I should be talking to? Maybe I get
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: that more than most.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know that feeling.
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  Speaker 5: They're looking over. They're kind of talking to you, but
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  Speaker 5: they're always looking somewhere. That's aftab pervol in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 1: They're looking for their moment to get out, to extract
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  Speaker 1: themselves from the situation. How can I get out of here?
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  Speaker 5: They're just faking it. Well, they're just making sure there's
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: no one more important they should be talking to than you. Like,
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  Speaker 5: why am I messing around with this schlep when I
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: could be talking to somebody else? But the funniest part
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: of all was during his state of the whatever city,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: you know, the state of the city. And, you know,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: story after story after story. The only about crime and
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: shootings and violence downtown is he is like he's like
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: he's like a. He's like a trans Greta Thunberg. He
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  Speaker 5: is concerned about, I want you to preach to that
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  Speaker 5: for a second.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying.
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  Speaker 5: He's a trans Greta. But anyway, he's convinced that Cincinnati
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: is poised to experience a boom due to climate change.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: And the vast, the, the, the, what else was it?
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  Speaker 5: The increasing costs from living.
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  Speaker 1: On the coast.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, this is your, who wrote your speech?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, clearly he did because he's a sycophant to the,
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  Speaker 5: to the radical left ideology that keeps supporting this, this guy. And,
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  Speaker 5: That's exactly why they drug his butt up to Michigan
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  Speaker 5: to campaign for the radical Muslim, now Senator-elect, al-Sayed from
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: that state up north. I mean, I just shake my head.
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  Speaker 5: Where do the Democrats come up with these candidates? What
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  Speaker 5: rock do they overturn? Are there any competent candidates? Like,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: keep Democrats other than Dusty Rhodes that comes to mind.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: Is there any competent, sane, common-sense Democrats left, or are
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  Speaker 5: they all just so radicalized that they've lost all sense
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  Speaker 5: of common sense?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a rhetorical question.
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  Speaker 5: I think it is as well. So I want everyone
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  Speaker 5: in the city to rest easy knowing that Aftab Perval—
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  Speaker 5: might be taking that railroad money. And I think his
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: next project is, I think he might be building an
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  Speaker 5: arc because of global warming and the rising sea levels.
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  Speaker 5: And Cincinnati will be the new, oh, I don't know, Miami?
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  Speaker 5: Because of the rising sea levels that we're going to
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 5: just experience. And it may be today, or it may
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 5: be in 50 years or 50,000 years. Here's a newsflash
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 5: for you, bub. You know, several hundred thousand years ago,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: this whole area was covered by ice.
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  Speaker 1: It's called.
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  Speaker 5: climate change. It's called cyclical climate. The hubris of man
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: and the hubris of the left to think that we
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: live in some static period of time that nothing ever changes.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: Things don't change. Now they'll say, well, it's man-made climate change.
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  Speaker 1: This time.
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  Speaker 5: But, you know, I mean, and they're the only ones
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  Speaker 5: that can solve it. Might I remind you The same
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  Speaker 5: people that are professing the ability to solve climate change,
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  Speaker 5: next time you go fill your gas can and half
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: of the gas or your lawnmower or your snowblower, give
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: them your forecast, and half the gas spills all over
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: the ground because the very same government that professes to
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  Speaker 5: be able to change the climate couldn't frickin' design a
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: gas can that works correctly.
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  Speaker 1: How's that feel?
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: It kind of upsets me, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to get relief from
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: making that obvious point or you're frustrated that you have
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: to make it.
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  Speaker 5: I get frustrated because these people put their trust in
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: a greater government that hasn't demonstrated the ability. How's your
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: health care working? How's the insurance working out for you?
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: Do you have any interaction with with healthcare reform, with Obamacare,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: with the exchanges that were supposed to drive down costs.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 5: Remember all of that nonsense that hasn't worked out? And
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: yet we continually, people still haven't connected the fact that
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 5: the very same people, why are you continuing to believe
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: the people that profess to have the cure for something
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: when they've clearly demonstrated they haven't fixed anything? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: where is, for example, have you driven in the city
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  Speaker 5: of Cincinnati recently? I mean, every time I can tell you,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: thank God. Now, you're a sports car aficionado. You like
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: fast cars. You like nice, sporty cars. There's no question
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 5: about that. I don't see how you drive in the
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  Speaker 5: city of Cincinnati. I drive an SUV, and there are
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  Speaker 5: times that my teeth want to rattle out of my
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  Speaker 5: head from the potholes that I'm hitting.
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  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: But the railroad money was supposed to fix all that. Well,
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  Speaker 5: has it happened? Not yet. It's coming. We're going to
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  Speaker 5: fix it eventually.
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  Speaker 1: I would argue to that point, the railroad money was
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: hoping to maybe dig them out of the massive hole
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: they dug themselves in through inaction and just simply maintaining
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: what they previously built. infrastructure, roads. It's a key point
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: of being an elected official to maintain what you've got.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: They let it fall apart year after year after year.
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  Speaker 1: So you had to sell the railroad to do something
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  Speaker 1: that the budget should have been covering from day one.
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  Speaker 1: Don't build a new skateboard park unless you're taking care
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  Speaker 1: of the roads that you already built. How's that for
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: an idea? Lord Almighty.
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  Speaker 5: Can't disagree at all. We have every new shiny toy
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: that a politician can go look at and get his
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: picture taken. Here we have a groundbreaking for, like you said,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: the skate park that'll be used by three children. Yet
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: the road to get there is in abysmal shape. And
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: the primary responsibility, I would say even higher than roads,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: the primary responsibility of any elect official.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: Is public safety.
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  Speaker 5: How is the public safety in the city of Cincinnati
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: going for you? The only thing that they are rejoicing
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: about down at the city of Cincinnati is is your
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: forecast for cold weather because crime tends to do what
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  Speaker 5: when the weather gets cold?
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  Speaker 1: It goes down. Wonderful commentary. The Honorable Drew Pappas. Great
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  Speaker 1: hearing from you, brother.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, honorable again. Oh, my God, I feel better. I
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  Speaker 5: got the whole day ahead of me.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Downhill from here.
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  Speaker 1: Wonderful summary with the argument there. 827 right now, 55KRC,
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  Speaker 1: of Judge Edna Napolitano, a defender of the Constitution. Judge
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  Speaker 1: Edna Napolitano, what I mentioned yesterday, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the morning show. I've got a lot of people in
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  Speaker 1: my listening audience, as you know, critical of Congressman Thomas Massey.
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  Speaker 1: We can talk about the Hegseth issue, but more fundamentally
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  Speaker 1: angry because he's been a thorn in the side of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people in the name of supporting the Constitution.
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  Speaker 1: Someone accused him of not being patriotic relative to some
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  Speaker 1: of the decisions he's making, a Mr. No. And I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: I think you can argue that Congressman Massey is the
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  Speaker 1: most patriotic person because even though it causes him to
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  Speaker 1: suffer slings and arrows and he interferes with expedience in
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  Speaker 1: the name of defending the Constitution, he is at least
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  Speaker 1: someone you can always count on to defend the supreme
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  Speaker 1: law of the land. Too few people care about defending
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  Speaker 1: the supreme law of the land.
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  Speaker 8: And it can be tough.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone cares.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, Brian, good morning. Everyone in the Congress, well, everyone
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  Speaker 14: in the government, from a school board janitor to the
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  Speaker 14: president and everybody in between, including yours truly, has taken
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 14: an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. Thomas
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  Speaker 14: Massey is the greatest defender of the Constitution's words and
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  Speaker 14: value in the modern era. I'll say it again. Thomas
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  Speaker 14: Massey is the greatest, most consistent defender defender of the
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  Speaker 14: Constitution's words and values in the modern era. The Republicans
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  Speaker 14: were foolish to have tabled the resolution to impeach Egg Seth.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 14: The resolution was brilliantly crafted, articulately presented, and legally sound.
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  Speaker 14: And we'll be going through this again in January when
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 14: the Democrats have their 100-vote majority in the House of
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 14: Representatives and their 10 or 11 vote majority.
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  Speaker 8: In the Senate.
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  Speaker 14: What Hegseth has done is not only a violation of
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  Speaker 14: the Constitution and federal law, it's a war crime. But
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 14: here's the question. Does impeaching a cabinet officer adequately address
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 14: the underlying problem of how to address orders given by
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 14: the president that are unconstitutional and illegal.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't. Well, and, you know, you got to make
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  Speaker 1: the counter argument to what Massey did is, well, look,
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  Speaker 1: every president since FDR has been waging unconstitutional, unapproved wars
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  Speaker 1: that didn't pass through Congress. I mean, and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to look at the War Powers Resolution
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  Speaker 1: from 1973, which, again, I think you and I believe
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  Speaker 1: is an unconstitutional delegation of what's written in the Constitution,
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  Speaker 1: We're still past that. And other presidents have never, didn't
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: even have to contend with the War Powers Resolution because
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: it preceded them. But year after year, presidency after presidency,
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  Speaker 1: they've all been doing this. So, you know, I guess Hegs'
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  Speaker 1: retort is it's not an unlawful order. I'm just following
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  Speaker 1: through with what generals and military officials have been following
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  Speaker 1: through since, I don't know, Eisenhower.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, that. I guess he didn't study Nuremberg at Princeton.
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting for that.
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  Speaker 14: Of course, I can say that, having graduated from the
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 14: same university 20 years before he did. That, of course,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 14: is an inadequate defense. You know, there's a statute here
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  Speaker 14: rarely cited, the War Crimes Act, a Clinton-era statute, which
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 14: makes war crimes a federal crime. The president can pardon
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 14: the federal crime, but he can't pardon the war crime,
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  Speaker 14: meaning Hegseth could be prosecuted anywhere in the world for
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  Speaker 14: the rest of his life if he chooses to leave
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  Speaker 14: the United States and go to a country that decides
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 14: to prosecute him for war crimes. Now, the impeachment is
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 14: not a prosecution. It's a political event.
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  Speaker 12: It.
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  Speaker 14: It doesn't impair his freedom. It doesn't take his assets.
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  Speaker 14: It just kicks him out of office and prevents him
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  Speaker 14: from occupying an office again. Prediction, he'll be impeached and
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  Speaker 14: convicted in the new Congress. He's upset too many Republicans
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 14: who want a change.
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  Speaker 1: So relative to the war crime here, I guess Hegseth's
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: Response should have been when directed to, oh, I don't know,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: blow up drug boats in the waters south of us
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: or engage in military strikes against the Iranians, decapitate the
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Iranian government. Should have been, I quit?
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  Speaker 14: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 14: And then after he quit, he should have stated the
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 14: reasons why. Admiral Halsey quit, but didn't state the reasons
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 14: why because of a quirk in the Uniform Code of
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 14: Military Justice statement. which could subject him to discipline even
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 14: after he retires from his four stars. Admiral Halsey was
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 14: asked to be in charge of the speedboat killings. So,
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  Speaker 14: I mean, Congressman Massey has everything in there. The speedboat killings,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 14: the speedboat killings of survivors of the speedboat killings, the
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 14: triple tap on the girls' school, meaning They blew a
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 14: hole in the roof, and then they sent two more
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 14: firebombs through the hole to burn everything down, and they
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 14: knew or should have known that it was a school.
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  Speaker 14: The kidnapping of Maduro, the intentional targeting of civilian infrastructure.
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  Speaker 8: In Tehran, all of this is in there.
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  Speaker 14: I don't know if Congressman Massey wrote this or had
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 14: legal assistance, but it is beautifully, thoroughly.
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  Speaker 8: And legally... I.
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  Speaker 14: Mean, I watched them for an hour. I could have
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 14: read it, but I was fascinated watching my hero. I
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  Speaker 14: watched him for an hour and 45 minutes on PBS,
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  Speaker 14: reading into the record every word of these eight articles
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  Speaker 14: of impeachment. They'll all be resurrected, not by him, but
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  Speaker 14: by a Democrat in January.
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  Speaker 1: Well, doesn't tabling it ensure that it will be brought
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  Speaker 1: back up in the next Congress?
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  Speaker 14: No, tabling it allows it to be brought back up
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  Speaker 14: in this Congress if the committee to which it was
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  Speaker 14: sent decides to review it. But that committee is the
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  Speaker 14: House Judiciary Committee, whose chair was just named the minority
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  Speaker 14: leader on the floor of the House in the new Congress.
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  Speaker 14: He's not going to convene that committee. It's Jim Jordan.
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  Speaker 14: He's not going to convene that committee for this purpose.
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  Speaker 14: So tabling it effectively kills it. until it is reintroduced
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  Speaker 14: in the new Congress, obviously by somebody else, because our friend,
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  Speaker 14: Congressman Massey, will not be, regrettably, most regrettably, will not
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  Speaker 14: be in the new Congress.
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  Speaker 1: Do you suspect that Democrats would get cold feet moving
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  Speaker 1: forward with this, and considering the majorities that they now have,
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  Speaker 1: it maybe presumably would pass, but Doesn't that pose a
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  Speaker 1: pesky challenge, recognizing that someone like their own guy, Barack Obama,
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  Speaker 1: did exactly the same kind of thing when he was
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  Speaker 1: president and committed war crimes?
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  Speaker 4: It does, but I.
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  Speaker 14: Think they're going to go after Hag Seth, a person
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  Speaker 14: I wrote about this morning, Attorney General Blanche, for the
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  Speaker 14: reasons I wrote about him, and RFK Jr. I think
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  Speaker 14: they're going to go after those three. Now, RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 14: made some statements last night which lead me to believe
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  Speaker 14: he's going to resign very soon. Blanche is not going
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  Speaker 14: to resign unless he's disbarred, something that may happen in
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  Speaker 14: New York City where he's being prosecuted. You won't see
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 14: this in the papers, but he's being prosecuted for ethics violations,
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  Speaker 14: which essentially involved just what I wrote about, being the
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  Speaker 14: president's lawyer while he's also the attorney general. So I
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  Speaker 14: don't know how this ends. I mean, as we know,
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  Speaker 14: You can be impeached after you leave office, but I
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  Speaker 14: don't know that they want to spin their wheels and
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  Speaker 14: do that.
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  Speaker 6: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we live in interesting times, Judge. Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 1: How about that? Well, Chinese proverb, and it's not a
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: well wish when it's directed someone. Hey, real quick here.
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  Speaker 1: I commented this morning. Ohio lawmakers lifted the short barrel
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  Speaker 1: rifle and suppressor restrictions, much like the federal government previously done.
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  Speaker 1: We had a law on the books in Ohio that
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  Speaker 1: So in order to now be consistent with what the
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  Speaker 1: federal government is doing, if they used to have to
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  Speaker 1: you had to pay a $ 200 fee to buy a
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  Speaker 1: suppressor or short barrel rifle, register the firearm. So once
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: the tax was removed, the courts determined that you could
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  Speaker 1: no longer require this registration. So now Ohio law, if
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: Governor DeWine signs it in law, is effectively going to
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  Speaker 1: make us consistent with that, which my firearm owning friends
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  Speaker 1: are really appreciative of. But pivoting over, Texas just went
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  Speaker 1: blue to a large degree. They've just filed, the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: have 20-plus gun control bills, including a ban on the
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  Speaker 1: so-called assault rifles, AR-15. Now, this one's pending before the
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Under Bruin, I would argue, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: founding fathers had access to literally any type of weapon
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  Speaker 1: that was available to them. It just happened to be
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  Speaker 1: that the weapon of choice was, because the technology was
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  Speaker 1: a musket. Of course, they had cannons, but, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess a pioneer, a settler, one of the colonists
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  Speaker 1: could have gone out and bought a cannon if they
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  Speaker 1: were able to afford it, and affordability is probably the
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  Speaker 1: biggest challenge. Nobody had cannons.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The AR-15, I know, I got more friends that own
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  Speaker 1: AR-15s than multiples of them. It's analogous to having a
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  Speaker 1: musket back in the days of the revolution. Is there
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  Speaker 1: any way the Supreme Court is going to allow for
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  Speaker 1: the banning of a specific type of rifle because it's
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, it's black and it's got a handle
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  Speaker 1: on it?
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  Speaker 14: I don't think so, Brian, just from reading the words
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  Speaker 14: that the court has uttered. And, you know, Texas may
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  Speaker 14: have gone blue. Its legislature is still red. I don't
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  Speaker 14: think this is going to happen, or at least one
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  Speaker 14: of the houses is still red. So I don't think
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  Speaker 14: this will happen. Texas is the most pro-gun state union.
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  Speaker 14: These suppressors are still illegal in New Jersey. But if
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  Speaker 14: I go across the river to Pennsylvania or down the
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  Speaker 14: turnpike to Delaware, they're perfectly legal.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping the Supreme Court just puts a knife and
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  Speaker 1: ends this entire ridiculous discussion.
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  Speaker 14: I'm hoping that before the Republican Congress leaves, they enact
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  Speaker 14: universal carry, just like a universal driver's license.
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  Speaker 11: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, for my listening friends, that's the Viramontes v.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: Cook County. That's an Illinois case. And Grant v. Higgins
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  Speaker 1: in front of the Supreme Court. They ultimately will decide
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: whether or not you can ban the ownership of an AR-15,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: among others. Judge Anapolitano, Judging Freedom is your podcast. I
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: encourage my listeners to check it out throughout the week.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: Your regular group today on the podcast program?
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  Speaker 14: Yes, but I do have another person because last week
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 14: I asked one of my Intel friends, does the CIA...
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 14: have income from sources other than the government? Short answer, yes.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 14: So I have David Hathaway on. David Hathaway is a
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 14: sheriff of a border county in California, but for 30
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 14: years was the head of the Drug Enforcement Administration in
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 14: the southwest part of the United States, arrested CIA agents
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 14: for importing drugs. That's what he's going to talk about today.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's appointment listening. If you can't listen live, Judging Freedom,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: where you get your podcast. And every week here on
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: the 55 KRC Morning Show, 8.30 is on a Wednesday.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: It means Judge Ed Napolitano. God bless you, sir, for
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: your time and your thoughtful analysis. And again, your words
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: are sometimes quite often difficult to swallow, but somebody's got
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: to defend the Constitution before it just becomes a notion,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: a quaint, old-fashioned notion.
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  Speaker 14: Thank you, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: All the best.
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  Speaker 1: And to you, sir. 8.43, 55 KRC Detox Station.