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- 0:00In this lessons episode, explore how positive psychology transforms adversity into resilience
- 0:05and sustainable performance, discover how evidence-based tools build emotional strength and clarity
- 0:09under pressure, understand how structured practices unlock motivation and creative problem solving,
- 0:14and uncover how resilience-driven mindsets create lasting, personal, and professional growth.
- 0:19When you're actually, when somebody comes to you and I want to highlight that you are an
- 0:31exceptionally positive person, at least we're talking right now, you seem exceptionally positive,
- 0:36but the topics and not the topics of things that have happened to you over the course of your
- 0:41life are not light things. So I have notes here and please correct me if I'm wrong here, but
- 0:49you've obviously been bullied, you attempted at one point to take your own life, you lost three
- 0:55friends to suicide and you were a victim of sexual assault or rape. Is that correct? These are all
- 1:00correct. So when you adopt a positive psychology mindset, these are horrendous things that you're
- 1:09still functioning, you're still excelling and obviously operating at an exceptional level. So what are
- 1:15the tools? What are some of the tool kits, the tool sets that you use to overcome some of these
- 1:22things? And I want to highlight the things that have happened to you and occurred in your life,
- 1:26because if you think about what somebody in a business goes through, the large not everybody,
- 1:34but the large majority of people have not had these many horrible things happen to them. So
- 1:40if somebody is struggling because they lost an RFP or they didn't raise a round of funding,
- 1:44it almost seems trivial now compared to the stuff that has happened in your life that you're still
- 1:49very capable of overcoming. So if I can apply the tool set to somebody who's struggling in their
- 1:54business and stressed, because a silly reason like maybe they shipped the wrong product or something
- 2:00like that, obviously when you look at how you've applied it to your life, it's very useful and
- 2:05very practical and obviously very much works skill set that you should take on and understand.
- 2:12So what are what are the tools that you've included in your life and what you teach over?
- 2:16Well, I feel like I could literally sit and talk about this all day. It feels like very
- 2:23fulfilling for me to be able to both share the science, but also share it from a perspective of
- 2:29not just being a person that's used it to go from good to great, but to use it from going from
- 2:35really being very, very stuck and scared and uncertain and being able to go on and perform
- 2:44that they've never before. And I always say it's not in spite of challenge, but it's because of them.
- 2:53And I think something that's important to recognise is that everybody experiences
- 2:57challenge in adversity in a different way. So the bias that we have in our brains means that
- 3:03some people really do feel things more and some people experience small things. There's really,
- 3:09really big things and what positive, and it could feel like it's choking even if it to someone
- 3:14else it doesn't seem like a big thing. It could feel like maybe that raise was actually something
- 3:19that kept you up and caused you to get stressed out and anxiety and lack of appetite and all the
- 3:25horrible things that come with massive amount of stress. Yeah, exactly. And I think it's one
- 3:31of the things that positive psychology teachers is that you can build resilience and you can build
- 3:39your set of psychological resources so that you can weather the storm and you don't just have to
- 3:47feel like you get beaten up by life all of the time, but you feel like you really do have a
- 3:54higher level of capability. So to get super specific and super granular, I'll tell you about that
- 4:00theory, first of all, and then I'll go into some of the tools. So the theory or one of them I'm
- 4:05talking about is the theory of positive emotions and the ability that positive emotions have to
- 4:12broaden and build. So when we experience the top tail end of emotions like joy, like excitement,
- 4:19enthusiasm, gratitude, love, we open up our thinking. So let's say someone's doing a raise
- 4:26and they're super stressed out what happens is your cognition shuts down. So it's like very,
- 4:33very hard for you to come up with creative solutions or for you to see the bigger picture. So what
- 4:39would benefit is actually practicing a positive psychology intervention and they're super simple,
- 4:46really easy to do, reaching for a tool so that you can create a shift and you can feel that at first
- 4:53so that it opens up your mind ready for the intake of information, you build relationships more
- 4:58quickly and you reach your goals faster as well. So that is the broadening. The building area
- 5:04of positive emotions, it says that when you experience more positivity or positive emotions,
- 5:12you're then able to almost like put those the effects of the positive emotions into a bank.
- 5:20So let's say you experience more humor or more laughter, you're able to put those resources
- 5:26into a bank so your psychological toolkit, when you need it, your bank account, you can actually
- 5:31reach into it and you can make a withdrawal which is the resiliency that actually gets you
- 5:37through the hard times. So some of the things that I've reached for when I've been really struggling.
- 5:44So let's say I'm having a, I'll give you a few examples. So let's say I'm having a really,
- 5:49really bad day because positive psychologists still have bad days, okay? I used to feel like I had to
- 5:56be like a hundred percent on all of the time and I recognised through my personal challenges that
- 6:03no one can be a hundred percent happy all of the time and it's actually not about that. So what
- 6:09I might do, let's say I'm feeling overwhelmed or I'm feeling like I don't have motivation to do
- 6:15my work, I might pull a tool out which is like the gravestone exercise. So if a couple of minutes,
- 6:24you can do it as a meditation, you can do it as a written exercise, both ways are super powerful
- 6:29and it asks you to consider a time where you're at the end of your life and you're looking back
- 6:37on everything that you have done. You are at your own funeral, you see your own headstone on
- 6:44your grave and you're seeing and witnessing what people are saying about you and what you'll
- 6:52be remembered for. So the intervention asks you to consciously create what it is you want to be
- 6:58remembered for your legacy and to really connect with that and write it down and it's such a powerful
- 7:05exercise. We deliver it within some of our coaching sessions and it's the real tear jerker,
- 7:12it's the one where people remember the meaning and the purpose or they connect with it for the first
- 7:18time and when you connect with that meaning and purpose, it really energises you. So if you're
- 7:24feeling like you're lacking in motivation, that's a really good tool to go to. If you're feeling like
- 7:30you are overwhelmed and you don't have solutions and you're feeling like you don't know the way through,
- 7:38you might pull a tool like the hope map. So the hope map gives you a six-step process to follow
- 7:44when you want to reach your goals and the good thing about positive psychology is even though it
- 7:49sounds like it's a soft science and it's like an meditation or something that is like light or
- 7:55fluffy, it's all grounded in evidence and research. So positive psychologists have literally tried
- 8:02and tested these tools in various different ways to figure out which order things work in
- 8:08and what you must do in order to create the result. So the hope map has got six steps. They tested
- 8:15it with four, they tested it with five, they looked at what it is that makes people reach their goals
- 8:21and it's actually the last two steps in the process. So step number one of the hope map is to decide
- 8:27on what the goal is that you want to focus on. Step number two is to apply something called divergent
- 8:33thinking theory which asks you not to come up with the number one solution to the goal but instead
- 8:40to come up with five or ten and get creative and play with the pathways that could be possible to
- 8:46help you get to that goal. Step number three is to identify any obstacles that might get in your
- 8:53way. So what happens when we set goals is we get into optimism, we get into excitement and that can
- 9:00actually prevent us from reaching our goals because if we get thrown off track and we're not prepared
- 9:05for it then we can get disheartened or we might give up. So if you can identify the obstacles and then
- 9:13consider what the pathways might be through those obstacles that can actually help you reach your
- 9:19goals faster but you then need to lock it in with the final two steps. So step number five is to
- 9:26consider what the why is behind the goal in the first place and step number six is to consider
- 9:34who you need to share with or who you need to ask for support from in order to reach the goal.
- 9:41Beautiful so that now you these steps are incredible and and when you apply these to the person
- 9:49is just trying to get through life it makes a lot of sense why it would be helpful to incorporate
- 9:54this into your day today. But obviously entrepreneurs have an extra level of stress sometimes where
- 9:59I feel like these steps are incredibly useful because I find that entrepreneurship is very lonely
- 10:04and sometimes depressing venture to go on. Not to say that work is easy for anybody but I mean
- 10:10entrepreneurs find themselves alone and usually isolated and finding a hard time talking to people
- 10:15about the things that they're going through. And I guess my more of a point but also a question
- 10:21at the same time when you talk about positive psychology why did you in particular decide to
- 10:27build a brand in the business around teaching this to entrepreneurs was it a niche that you felt
- 10:32needed attending to was it and I also know you work with a lot of coaches as well like you probably
- 10:37could work with you know a venture back software somebody in SF but I mean you've chosen a certain
- 10:44avenue for the work that you do why is that why is this something that in particular a coach would
- 10:50need or a solo printer needs. For me it's the potential of the impact of the ripple effect.
- 10:58So there's been studied done specifically on positive psychology coaching where we look at the
- 11:04impact of a coach and a client having that relationship and what happens after that. So they found
- 11:14that every person that somebody who's received coaching comes into contact with they also
- 11:21increase their wellbeing. So it's really exciting for me when a student goes back into the home and
- 11:27they come back and tell me that their husband is now feeling better and their husband is performing
- 11:33better at work or their kids are coming and having conversations teenagers having conversations
- 11:40can you imagine it. So they're like super happy about that or there's like a five-year-old who
- 11:45practicing gratitude. So the power of that impact really excites me and it doesn't just stop that.
- 11:52So the study found that somebody who goes to like a positive psychology coaching and then goes
- 12:01out into their day-to-day life they will impact every single person that they come into contact with.
- 12:09So if they're going to stand in the line at the post office or waiting to go into the dentist
- 12:15the ripple effect extends far and wide. So I see it like an activation around the globe where the more
- 12:23people I can support to become positive psychology coaches the more people can receive positive
- 12:29psychology coaching and the more we can elevate the wellbeing and the performance of the planet
- 12:34because of that. So that feels exciting. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable don't
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