Latest / WOMEN MAJORING IN MARRIAGE / EPISODE #19 WHY DID I STAY WITH REVA HART
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- 0:02Welcome to the women, majoring in marriage podcast with your
- 0:05host Janice L. Vance.
- 0:09Girl, if you are a married woman that desire is not just to have
- 0:12a surviving marriage, you know, the kind that's just on cruise
- 0:16control but actually want a thriving marriage.
- 0:19You are in the right place. If you are engaged, this show
- 0:22can inspire you to prepare for your marriage, before preparing,
- 0:26for that expensive, wedding day. Oh, and all my single ladies out
- 0:29there. There that are in their season
- 0:31of waiting on God, to send your husband.
- 0:33We've got something for you as well, girl, marriage is not
- 0:36hard, but it certainly is work. So relax.
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- 0:46What happened? Well, welcome to all of my wings
- 0:50to the women major in marriage podcast with yours.
- 0:53Truly, Janice Vans, I want to thank you, ladies for continuing
- 0:58to rock with me. I see how you're listening to
- 1:01those podcasts. And my desire is that it one
- 1:05person, one person get blessed. Then it would not have been in
- 1:10vain. I am so thrilled to have a guest
- 1:14with me real. Heart I told you all.
- 1:18When I first started my podcast that I said, one day I want to
- 1:22invite years because I was just doing the podcast twice a month.
- 1:26I said, one day in God, just blessed answer my prayers and I
- 1:30have, I helped interview several ladies and have danced so much
- 1:35great feedback on their story because it is a blessed, one
- 1:40women come forth and say that they want to tell their story
- 1:45people. Are doing that more now than
- 1:47ever before. So many women have suffered in
- 1:51silence but now that they're seen and I'm hoping that if
- 1:55you're out there and you have a story that you will reach out to
- 1:58me as well, and I will send you a firm.
- 2:02And if your brake feed for my podcast, I would definitely
- 2:07definitely interview, but I want to introduce you all to this
- 2:12beautiful woman. Reba Hart.
- 2:15Reba Hart. Reba Hart is going to talk
- 2:17about. Why did I stay?
- 2:21And she's going to explain why she did not stay.
- 2:26That makes us all curious. Okay, Reba Hart is a wife of 28
- 2:32years to Miller car. She is a mother of five adult
- 2:37children. She is a leadership, mentor and
- 2:42story. Is that worse?
- 2:49Story work for work. I can't rely on.
- 2:52Write a story were killing coach that that is so often she meant
- 2:56to courageous women to men and prosper from their store.
- 3:06That's what I'm talking about. That's what I love that does so
- 3:10much. And lastly, I'm going to say
- 3:12about Rita, is she loved perfume?
- 3:18Hard conversations, no deep conversation you and I we could
- 3:24chat for a while. Those Hardy conversation And
- 3:29barely The Laughing. The barely ate laughs, and she
- 3:35loves to laugh. She loved to laugh.
- 3:38It is an honor and a privilege to me to have before me mrs.
- 3:43Riva hard, and she's gonna come at her own way.
- 3:46I told her to just do her, she just tell her story.
- 3:50However she feel that it will bless the audience and encourage
- 3:55others to not to sit down on their story.
- 4:00Riva is all in your hands. Oh, thank you so much mr.
- 4:06J. I just one thing reason.
- 4:07I give me say this, we then I would never ever met where you
- 4:11living in Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia in Atlanta, Georgia or
- 4:16even I have never met, she reached out to me after hearing
- 4:20a podcast and she said I would love to and she reached out to
- 4:24me and God led us here. You never met.
- 4:29And hopefully one day we'll be able to meet one day.
- 4:32We'll be able to get together meet each other.
- 4:33We're not that far from each other.
- 4:35Yeah. And we're Diana.
- 4:37We visit Atlanta, you know, that's not far.
- 4:40But anyway, I'm so glad she reached out to me.
- 4:43I am so glad she's obedient, and I know that you have something
- 4:47to share. So, just sit back and talk.
- 4:50Relax act. As if you sitting in my living
- 4:53room, we on the sofa. And we just check because you
- 4:55like them, our yes, I do. I do.
- 5:02Thank you so much mr. Janus, because your platform is
- 5:06definitely ministering to people to women.
- 5:10I was met introduce to you by way of your group, your women's
- 5:16group, your marriage group. I think someone, one of my one
- 5:20of my Facebook friends, you know, suggested that I get into
- 5:25your group and you are definitely Ministering and
- 5:27supporting women in marriage and I just love it, majoring in
- 5:31marriage. So when I started, she did the
- 5:33packets. I'm like yes this is amazing.
- 5:38It's amazing. It's the reached.
- 5:40So I'm thankful that I'm able to come and share a little bit of
- 5:45my marriage story. My husband and I have been
- 5:49together so long. We met When We Were Young, we
- 5:53grew up in the same neighborhood and community.
- 5:57And so I'm thankful that we're still here and that God's grace
- 6:03and mercy was sufficient for us. Thank you.
- 6:05Lord, but I may just podcast why I stay because I believe that as
- 6:16I share my story and I believe that as women listening to your
- 6:20podcast, that they're going to hear this podcast, they going to
- 6:24start listening to more of your other stories.
- 6:27That's on that podcast, but it's going to encourage them.
- 6:30It's going to encourage, women are in the Deep throws a
- 6:32marriage betrayal, because that is my story.
- 6:35So I really believe that women are going to be encouraged.
- 6:38I got to get some hope and not feel like they and alone.
- 6:42Even though, marriage betrayal, there's nothing new right, when
- 6:47you're in it, you feel like you alone, right?
- 6:50Right. You feel like you're alone.
- 6:54And so I wanted to talk about my story from the aspect of why I
- 7:01stayed. Why did I Stay?
- 7:06It was hard but I stayed. And so, my story starts with the
- 7:14fact that it was a horror story before we got married.
- 7:20It was a horror story before I got married.
- 7:23Now, I don't want to skip over the fact I did.
- 7:26I was thinking I was like, Lord, I really want to make sure that
- 7:29I share in the beginning that God makes a way of Escape.
- 7:34Wow. God makes a way of escape.
- 7:38And so, to choose to stay and and allow the Redemptive - of
- 7:46the Redemptive power of God to work in.
- 7:49Your marriage is hard. It's harder to stay than it is
- 7:53to go. And even though I chose to stay
- 7:58even though many have chose to stay, God still make a way of
- 8:01Escape. He does not want you to be a
- 8:04harm. He don't want you to Your
- 8:06children to be at harm. If you're in a marriage with
- 8:08children, he doesn't want you to be in a relationship that is
- 8:13causing you to emotionally mentally or physically be
- 8:18devastated. Hmm.
- 8:21So he will make a way of escape and I just want to make sure I
- 8:23said that in the beginning in the beginning, right?
- 8:27So my marriage Horror Story started before we got married.
- 8:32Remember, as I shared, we would say we've been together.
- 8:34We've known each other. Ever since we were like
- 8:37elementary middle school but we started dating like right?
- 8:41When I was in like 8th, grade going into the freshman year and
- 8:44he was in high school. And so the horror story We had
- 8:52really bad behaviors of relational bad behaviors.
- 8:56They were bad. They were toxic.
- 8:58They were horrible. We both very needy.
- 9:02We were young and this carried on over after enduring our
- 9:08marriage matters. Just got worse, they got worse,
- 9:13we both grew, very resentful. We both became very bitter as
- 9:18the years was gone on and, you know, knock.
- 9:21Toxic Behavior. It was showing up as the years
- 9:24kept going past. It was like them, disrespect was
- 9:27growing, the lack of communication was going
- 9:30sidelight, the it was less communication every year.
- 9:34It was just kind of like bare minimum.
- 9:37There was control issues, there was just no honor, no honor, no
- 9:44respect, lack of communication. A lot of money.
- 9:48You know, we both were emotionally manipulative.
- 9:51Each other. Why?
- 9:51Because we were trying to get our needs met.
- 9:53Both of us, both of us was trying to get our needs met from
- 9:56each other and I know some people, probably got some women
- 10:04are going to probably listen to me like that.
- 10:06She's just being real wrong. She just calling it out yet.
- 10:08It is with a love you being transparent.
- 10:12Thank you. It is, it is what it is.
- 10:16I mean, we were unflexible towards each other.
- 10:18We're being so hard on each other.
- 10:20We had so many unknown realistic expectations about each other.
- 10:25In our marriage. It was hurting.
- 10:28We were hurting each other. and, Through that and just being too
- 10:37comfortable. I don't know if it's the say too
- 10:39comfortable. When I say to complement and we
- 10:41took advantage each other. That's what I mean.
- 10:43We took advantage of each other and and and then you throw five
- 10:48children in the Mist. It is.
- 10:50Wow. It was a lot.
- 10:53It was a lot. So I Horror Story started before
- 10:58we got married, just kind of transfer over in the midst of
- 11:02why we were married and then we have five children in less than
- 11:08five years that were raising. And we didn't know, God, try to
- 11:13think about all of that and try to do life without the father.
- 11:18Yes. When I'm the father, it's almost
- 11:24impossible. Both of us, not knowing about
- 11:29it, was impossible. Abby, we like at each other's
- 11:34throats arguing all the time arguments was like that was all
- 11:39the way we were able to talk to each other.
- 11:42Wow. And that it was, it was
- 11:44horrible. It was really horrible
- 11:47fast-forward years after We won't marry and current, you
- 11:53know, in our current marriage, the secrets of betrayal
- 11:57surfaced. And my husband finally confessed
- 12:01of the struggles and the Betrayal that he had done before
- 12:05the marriage. And while in the marriage, even
- 12:09though I was devastated, I was happy because, you know, as
- 12:13women, we always like something's not right?
- 12:16Yes. Yes, I actually had a dream and
- 12:22I don't want to go too much into the dream but I had a dream, the
- 12:26lord gave me a dream and I saw the faces.
- 12:31And when I said it to him because I remember, I woke up
- 12:35that morning and I was so sad because it was like a nightmare.
- 12:39He said, what's wrong? I said, I've just had this
- 12:41nightmare. I had this nightmare and I saw
- 12:45it was get what's a weighted? And he was like, oh, okay.
- 12:50Well, you have a good day. I'm about to go to work.
- 12:53I know where he hid his, he's going to laugh because that's
- 12:55the literally how I act like next day.
- 12:59He came in and said, he'd become.
- 13:01Some of the Lord was on him, he couldn't withhold.
- 13:04He had to tell me. And unfortunately, the women
- 13:10that I did that, I saw him. I didn't know I had described
- 13:14them to the tee, and that's what, that's what was horrifying
- 13:18to him. It shook him.
- 13:22Then I was able to Share and see these women in detail who they
- 13:30was. I didn't know.
- 13:32It was, truly, the Holy Spirit, working through me, through that
- 13:35dream. Mmm.
- 13:36And even though it was devastating to hear him confess,
- 13:41I was relieved at the same time. Yes, because I'm like, I finally
- 13:46got an answer for the unexplainable Bloom.
- 13:49Wow. It was like taking a deep
- 13:55breath. It really was like, Hmm.
- 14:00And yes, I was devastated. I was devastated and at the same
- 14:06time relieved at the same time frustrated, great of used and
- 14:13now I'm like at this point I'm saying, what do I do?
- 14:16What do I do? Where do I go from here?
- 14:19Where do I go from here? Do I stay do I go, do I just
- 14:23live? We haven't, we act like we just
- 14:25live in separate wings of the house.
- 14:28All these questions started going through my head and so I
- 14:33want to share, I have 10 reasons.
- 14:35I don't know if I'm gonna get through them all, but I'm, I
- 14:37tried to make a really short and I wrote them down.
- 14:40So you guys see me looking over? I don't know if anyone would
- 14:43ever see this video, it's because I wanted to make sure
- 14:46that I was able to capture how I was thinking.
- 14:50At that time. Wow.
- 14:52I State my reasons have grown since then, of course,
- 14:55throughout the course of our years Is of recovery and
- 15:00Redemption but in the beginning I wanted to just be really
- 15:04honest and Raw on lasting right. Why?
- 15:08Well reason, reason, number one is, I felt like I had to I felt
- 15:14like I had to stay why many may say why?
- 15:18Why she felt like she had to. Well I believed in Tradition and
- 15:21culture tradition and culture tell you like you suck it up,
- 15:25you do with it and that's it, right?
- 15:28You just deal with your marriage, you just get through
- 15:30the rough times. You just and so for me, my first
- 15:35thought was like, oh my God. Okay, I got to, I got that.
- 15:38I got to ride this out because I got to be that woman, right?
- 15:43Woman. And just write that out because
- 15:45I don't see other women in my community or whatever do that.
- 15:49And I would tell myself or even make it work, make it work Reba.
- 15:54But then again on the other side of I said I don't want to be
- 15:57like my parents and getting a divorce.
- 16:00Hmm, I didn't want to see that was my childhood pain, speaking
- 16:04to me and Sean up and in the beginning my childhood pain kept
- 16:09telling me. No, you can't do that.
- 16:11You can't do that, don't leave. Don't don't, don't don't, don't
- 16:15repeat what your parents did and so it was a fear there, right?
- 16:21Mmm, that's why that was reason number one.
- 16:25Even though, like I said, I grew it.
- 16:28My reasons, I want to make sure I keep saying, God does with
- 16:34make a way of Escape Escape ladies, he makes him a way of
- 16:38Escape for you, even though that there was broken covenants,
- 16:44sexual immorality, xand band, admit in my marriage, these was
- 16:50my wrong reasons again for why I stayed.
- 16:54Reason number two, I have five children.
- 16:58For the sake of the kids is what I used to say.
- 17:02We're raising five kids, I don't want to contribute to the
- 17:05wounds, I didn't want to contribute to them, having
- 17:07mother wounds, and father loans. Because I decided that I wanna I
- 17:13want to deal with him because he didn't did X Y & Z.
- 17:16Some then again here, get again, reason, even in reason number
- 17:22two, you see how bad it was for you when your parents divorce,
- 17:27how it messed? You up.
- 17:29Hmm. No you need to stay.
- 17:31So here it is. My childhood trauma.
- 17:34It's just keep popping up. I'm right.
- 17:39I felt that the one thing that I, I sat down and I was real
- 17:44serious. About was the fact that if my
- 17:47children can see us fighting arguing in Conflict, they
- 17:51deserved for us to, at least try for me, for, at least, for me to
- 17:57try to show them resolution. Also mmm-hmm, I didn't want to
- 18:04just walk away from that marriage and all they start with
- 18:07us fighting an argument and run. Didn't try to select them.
- 18:11See how to lose all that at the same time.
- 18:14Mmm, I was and I kept Romans 5 and 3 in my head a lot.
- 18:20Wow, I would think about that. Right?
- 18:23So reason number three, I didn't know how my life will look
- 18:28without him. I'm just being real.
- 18:31I know. Wow, I didn't know how my life
- 18:36was going to look like. I've spent more than I spent
- 18:39more than half a more than half of more, than half of me, is
- 18:45that, you know, I didn't. I really didn't know how.
- 18:50Is it gonna look? I was terrified.
- 18:55I didn't know how it was going to impact my children
- 18:58financially. How I was going to impact me.
- 19:00When I be able to make a do I need to walk away and leave kids
- 19:02with him all these things going through my head, right?
- 19:08And I also thought to myself, you can do this repo.
- 19:15Every man deal with pornography every man cheat.
- 19:19You'll be all right, you'll be all right, hmm.
- 19:24Reason. Number four, The reason why I
- 19:27stayed. I had a true friend and
- 19:29community that gave me hope. Well, in the beginning, I kept
- 19:33it all to myself, but I remember one day, one of my friends.
- 19:37She asked me to meet her at a Women's Conference And I was
- 19:42very reluctant to go because I was so sad and stuff and I
- 19:44didn't want nobody to really know what was going on, but I
- 19:49went ahead and met her there. As soon as I saw how I broke
- 19:52down and cried and she said, what is?
- 19:54And I just like, I just need to tell somebody something and she
- 19:57was like, okay so I read. I remember we found somewhere
- 20:01inside the church building and we start off into a corner like
- 20:05most of the conference talking outside and I just share with
- 20:10her. What was Is going on and I told
- 20:13her how shame I felt. I didn't know what to do and she
- 20:18reminded me, God is a God that can fix anything.
- 20:22Wow, and she said, we are you're not alone, you don't have to do
- 20:28this alone and she said, and I believe that you two are humbled
- 20:36enough that y'all can work through this and that you still
- 20:39have a bright future. That gave me the hope I need.
- 20:44Wow. And the community gave me the
- 20:47support I needed because we had a we had a lot of rough days
- 20:52ahead of us, right? Right, it's rough days ahead.
- 20:55When you working through restoration, you know, because
- 21:00to be honest, we wasn't restoring anything.
- 21:02We were starting something we never seen before and write
- 21:06something we had never done before, which was pursue a
- 21:09healthy marriage. hmm, so reason number five I just wanted to win
- 21:18Janice. I wanted the W.
- 21:24I wanted the W. I wanted the miraculous
- 21:27testimony, I wanted people to look at my story and be like
- 21:30God. Oh man, I serve your God, right?
- 21:35Wanted that I wanted the strong testimony and he had guy had did
- 21:41so many things in our life in our family.
- 21:46So Any Supernatural Miracles and things that he did for us.
- 21:50I'm like, this got to be small. Yes, got this is not the say
- 21:55him. He is hard for me, but nothing
- 21:58for him. Mmm, so I surely want it.
- 22:03The big testimony. I wanted the strong testimony
- 22:08reason. Number six.
- 22:11I saw my husband, he was very desperate for change.
- 22:14I saw it. My husband really wanted freedom
- 22:19and transformation. He really did.
- 22:22He wanted our marriage to be something new and he would say
- 22:25that all the time. We've, I believe we can have a
- 22:28new marriage. We can have something new and
- 22:31something different. So I said to myself, okay, So
- 22:36he's Desiring and wanting help. I'm Desiring.
- 22:41Wanting help. And we as a couple are Desiring.
- 22:44Wanting help. Why?
- 22:45Not? Why not?
- 22:48Hmm. Galatians 6:1 and three says
- 22:51brothers and sisters. If someone is caught in sin, you
- 22:54who live by the spirit, you should restore that person in
- 22:59the spirit of meekness. Keep watch over yourself.
- 23:02Lest you be tempted. This reminded me, I got a whole
- 23:06lot of failures. That means that I need to be
- 23:09forgiven to, like, I got, I had my own issues and so, I'm like,
- 23:13oh wait, if I'm looking to be this, like, who am I tonight to
- 23:18restore my brother? My husband.
- 23:22Mmm. So it was very crucial, we
- 23:28sought professional help individually and together.
- 23:33As a couple great reason. Number seven, I simply loved
- 23:39him, y'all. I love that man.
- 23:43Better work. Honestly love.
- 23:49Timmy wanted to be part of the solution.
- 23:52This commitment was not easy, huh?
- 23:56It was not easy but by far the most rewarding decision I made.
- 24:01Hmm. I was able to hide him and cover
- 24:06him in love. Why?
- 24:07He did the Deep work while I watched him being delivered by
- 24:11God, why I watched him being healed and changed and
- 24:14transformed by God, I was able to cover him with love and I
- 24:20loved him reason. Number eight, I didn't want to
- 24:26risk walking away, from what we built.
- 24:30Hmm, I didn't want to walk away from what we started to build
- 24:34with our family. Although stand was a risk.
- 24:38Remember y'all? I keep saying, gotta give you an
- 24:41escape. It's, that was a risk and it was
- 24:45much hard work walking walking through this process, but I
- 24:52didn't want to risk what we had. I spent a lot of years building
- 24:56with our family. It was some good stuff.
- 24:58We had good fruit, we had good children, a good foundation and
- 25:02I didn't want to risk that reason.
- 25:05Number 9 Love Is A Verb. Love is a action.
- 25:10It's not just a feeling, it's the feeling that not just, the
- 25:14feeling of Love or showing love. Love is more than just the Ebbs
- 25:21and flow of things. And even though I did, I Feel
- 25:25Love most of the time. My commitment.
- 25:30My Covenant, I still had a commitment and I still had a
- 25:33covenant and I wanted to trust that my commitment in my
- 25:37Covenant will hold our Union together through the rough
- 25:40times. Reason.
- 25:45Number 10, He was my biggest cheerleader for my healing
- 25:50Journey. Wow.
- 25:54I saw the fruit of change in him, he was just like, oh, you
- 25:58just need to get out and read the right.
- 26:01Just, you just need to come on now, I said, I'm sorry, you
- 26:05know, I saw the fruit of change in him which was he became
- 26:11concerned about me because most of our marriage, it was really
- 26:16about him. Hmm, what he wanted to do, what
- 26:19he wants to do it, right? And I saw the fruit A change.
- 26:24When he became my biggest cheerleader at my healing
- 26:27Journey because even though, ladies, I hope that you hear me
- 26:32correctly. I'm not taking blame for what he
- 26:36did. But I know that I played a part
- 26:38because marriage is a mirror. Hmm.
- 26:42We weren't doing things to each other.
- 26:45Wow, saying things to each other, right?
- 26:49You know, and so when he started to grow and change and be
- 26:58transformed, I couldn't stay the same even though he hurt me, I
- 27:05had to do the work and she was so happy and I change.
- 27:08Wow. I had to I saw the fruit of
- 27:11change in him. I watched him become a new man.
- 27:14A new father, a new friend. I watched him do.
- 27:18Whatever was needed to see me here.
- 27:23If we went to our mentors and they said, you need to do x y z,
- 27:31because this is what she's going to need to get through this hit.
- 27:34He's like he said, yes, I'll do it.
- 27:36If it was our counselors, he said, I would do it and he did,
- 27:41he did. What was the restoration
- 27:43process? Perfect.
- 27:44No. Was it hard?
- 27:46Yes. I mean, it was more hard days.
- 27:52going through it, then it felt like good things but now that
- 27:55we're on the other side of it it was like We needed our marriage
- 28:02to blow up Ms. The role we was going down was not a good road.
- 28:07Hmm, and now we've been able to change the trajectory of what I
- 28:12children. Thought marriage was.
- 28:14Wow that is so awesome right there.
- 28:19So that was the reason number 10 y'all and I'm not going to go
- 28:23any more, I can probably keep talking about it because I'm
- 28:26super passionate about speaking of the Redemptive work of God in
- 28:33a marriage. I mean.
- 28:36Wow, I thought I thought that marriage was about.
- 28:40Okay, me being happy. Well yes we found that out.
- 28:43That's not. He is yes.
- 28:46And one thing about marriage, It is with this.
- 28:49How I got believe that God gave me women.
- 28:52Majoring in marriage is because we have to constantly major and
- 28:58you and your husband got married.
- 29:00Really early age. Like my husband and I, we, my
- 29:03husband. I start going together.
- 29:06When junior high school, sweetheart.
- 29:09And this year, we celebrated 44 years of marriage in September.
- 29:15Yes, but I tell everybody that That you still have to
- 29:20constantly major you constantly learn and you constantly grown
- 29:25up. And that's a good thing.
- 29:28Yeah, that's a good thing. When you can see growth and your
- 29:31testimony. Oh my God.
- 29:36Oh, my God, is so powerful and I hope that it gives so many hope.
- 29:45So men who are trying to decide should I stay should I go?
- 29:53What should I do? What people going to say?
- 29:57Because you know, it's so many people are suffering and sound
- 30:01is so many people. Now that we have social media,
- 30:04they I called act. Why my picture?
- 30:11Why did that? Can you see me?
- 30:14No, I seen your picture. But I can still hear you.
- 30:22There. No.
- 30:35Okay everybody. Hold on.
- 30:39And that I never had this happen before.
- 30:46Why is it just showing my there you go.
- 30:49Erica why? I don't know why they happen.
- 30:52I do not know why. I never I never seen that
- 30:55happen. But nevertheless the devil
- 30:58trying to be be his if he don't, he don't want to go out but he's
- 31:01going to go out. And I was saying on social
- 31:04media, you know, people you people looking at the old a so
- 31:09have over there. The perfect couple.
- 31:11Oh, she always posting pictures. They don't trip.
- 31:15Oh, she posted. He bought Bought her this.
- 31:17All my boo. This is my boo that but those
- 31:20people never tell of their stroke.
- 31:23And some people looking like all these a perfect mayor's part of
- 31:27me or they got it going on, they don't tell what they've been
- 31:31through. Yes.
- 31:33And there's other people, there's people that are engaged.
- 31:37They are ones that are desired who I want to be.
- 31:39I want to be like that. Oh God, every time I turn
- 31:43around, she's posting all these great pictures and, you know, we
- 31:47as women we like to show off, you're gonna actually you go
- 31:50most of the see us talk about us but you don't give, no, no, no,
- 31:55he bought me this. Oh he bought me a pair of shoes.
- 31:58Yeah, Reba like perfume impressed, they tell all these
- 32:11and people outside of just looking in and thinking is just
- 32:14a fairytale marriage is work. You have to continue to Major.
- 32:19You might not be in the same season.
- 32:22You were 10 years ago but you want a different one.
- 32:25So you have to learn how to you have to learn how to work with
- 32:31that season that you're in. In because that's something I
- 32:35just tried 63. I am not the same person.
- 32:38I was 20 office in 20 years ago. I need the same person.
- 32:43I was two years ago. Yeah, learn each other.
- 32:47You have to change your different.
- 32:49Yes. My computer making me mad job.
- 32:53Why I want to keep doing me like this?
- 32:56Come on, come on. Do me like that.
- 33:02I know y'all can hear me, but it's it.
- 33:04Don't wanna, you don't want to show my video.
- 33:15It's sands on able to detect the camera.
- 33:19Come on camera. My camera is trying to go.
- 33:47You are. Just hold on, hold on, hold on
- 33:50them. I never.
- 33:54I never had this the word wise, my camera.
- 34:00I can I can look at it until the camera's not on, but the
- 34:03microphone is on. I'm going to get back with y'all
- 34:14and you see if I can figure it out.
- 34:31Hmm. I tried to come on, just then.
- 35:35I think you came back on. I think it's trying to come back
- 35:56on them. Yeah, but look like it's trying.
- 36:04If not, I'm going to just keep talking long as I can see you.
- 36:07That's what's important. The camera is on.
- 36:49It looks like it's trying. Anna saying that it's on.
- 37:09And I see the light as it was on.
- 37:14There, go to picture. but I'm going to, I'm going to,
- 37:29I'm just going to continue to talk and I never had this to
- 37:36happen. I'm so I'm glad we got almost
- 37:39finished. But nevertheless what I was
- 37:42saying is marriage is work in the hear your to hear your
- 37:47testimony of how you continue to major in your marriage that you
- 37:52can stand here today. With that powerful testimony,
- 37:57that will be able to encourage other women.
- 38:01That if God did it for her, I know that he can do it for me
- 38:07and what's one in your marriage renewal, how many years have you
- 38:12been married? When when the struggle began, it
- 38:16was like around the well, 12 year mark, maybe.
- 38:21Hmm. It was like around the 12 year.
- 38:2512 year, mark I had just kind of like turned around in my 30s.
- 38:33I was feeling like a new woman change was happening.
- 38:39He had just changed, I think he was going into his maybe late
- 38:4330s at the time and, you know, we change we never equated that
- 38:47or even thought about that. In the beginning when you get
- 38:49married like what are we going to do?
- 38:50When we start changing as we started getting older and things
- 38:54like that? I never was a discussion and it
- 38:56was around the 12 year mark. Wow, we started started talking
- 39:02less. Hmm.
- 39:05Started being more agitated with one another.
- 39:11Hmm. Just not it.
- 39:18Barely, speaking of even about the children's like oh I did
- 39:21this with an OK in or he'll be like you going Do some
- 39:25softening? Yeah.
- 39:26Uh, it was, it was wow, short and good.
- 39:31Like I do not know that a lot of people living like, No
- 39:37communication, no respect. They're living, just like
- 39:42roommates. Yes.
- 39:45Marriage on actual on life support.
- 39:49Barely breathing. I support barely breathing.
- 39:54Yes and some are at a point where They saying, aye.
- 40:04I'm too far in this. I've invested too much and I
- 40:08listened closely to your 10 worries and a lot of people.
- 40:15Well, we'll have to talk. We were married this.
- 40:17Many of you who just going to do our own thing.
- 40:19He do his thing. I do my thing, but we just stay
- 40:22in the same house and just smile around others.
- 40:25There's some separate. And doing their own thing.
- 40:33Haven't decided. We're going to get back together
- 40:37with not going to get the back together in the longer.
- 40:39They stay apart, the more comfortable they get with it.
- 40:44Yeah, they just shacking up. Yeah.
- 40:49They just shacking up and we have to ask ourselves.
- 40:52Is this a God? Is this marriage seek?
- 40:56Help? Get him.
- 40:57I love that. You said that you all had
- 41:00mentals that you all sought out the help.
- 41:04I love the fact that when you went to the convention that lady
- 41:10pulled you aside and talk to you, she has a girl.
- 41:16I wouldn't put up with that girl.
- 41:18I wouldn't staying it girl, you crazy.
- 41:22What you doing next? You young you got a lock point
- 41:26then say there and you have a lot of women telling women that
- 41:30they'll tell you to leave your husband and they putting up with
- 41:33something way worse than what you're going through.
- 41:37Then yes, they'll tell you, they won't put up with, how are you
- 41:40need to leave? Yeah, but I thank God that you
- 41:44did and not only that you was able to recognize That God
- 41:49restored your mayor and that you want to help others.
- 41:53Yes. You want to mental other women.
- 41:57There are so many women that are In their seasonal waiting on
- 42:02God, to send them their husband believe in God, for them to send
- 42:08their husband, and they might be out there looking at the
- 42:12fairytale lifestyle. But marriage is work and super
- 42:19happy who put in the work, even though you all have went through
- 42:23all of that. Y'all still constantly working
- 42:27on it. Yes.
- 42:29Constantly working on and the devil really want to fight
- 42:33because he know y'all got a testimony.
- 42:37Let's see here, we really want to stick his head up, you know,
- 42:42have a testimony having, you know, a book, not pertaining my
- 42:49marriage yet. We're working on it individually
- 42:53and together, but not yet. Yeah, not yet.
- 42:59I can't wait till they will come out.
- 43:04Yeah, I know. I know that when this, you know,
- 43:11when you're in the midst of it, you just you feel confused.
- 43:15You like, man, should I stay or should I go?
- 43:17Is it worth it? Uh, you know what, clean some,
- 43:22even go to the have you know, act like it's not happening
- 43:26happening, you know, it's not happening but it comes to a
- 43:30point eventually just have to deal with it and it is far.
- 43:33But It's worth it. If the two people in the
- 43:39marriage is willing to do the work, right?
- 43:42It can't work. If one person wandering work, it
- 43:45takes to. It takes both people that have
- 43:48to do the work and so I pray that I said something today that
- 43:54can allow someone to grab onto hope a little bit tighter.
- 43:59Wow, another day. Wow, because God is with you, he
- 44:03sees all he knows all All he wants the best for both you and
- 44:09your husband and the wife. Yes.
- 44:11Yes he loves you both. Yes.
- 44:14Yes. Really.
- 44:16I just want to thank you. I try to try my video again for
- 44:19those. You all might just be tuning in
- 44:22or scroll down to the middle every, trying to figure out why
- 44:26you don't see me some reason, my camera went out, but
- 44:28nevertheless, we're still able to I'm able to see Reba and I am
- 44:33able to choose able to hear me and I know, Old for fat.
- 44:38I know for a fact that this episode is going to bless so
- 44:45many ladies, Reba Hart. You can connect with her on
- 44:49Facebook, she's in my Facebook group, sometimes you think
- 44:53you're not reaching out to people and And you are.
- 44:58And I thank God for that because I wrote a book women, majoring
- 45:03in their marriage and I talks about what majoring in marriage.
- 45:06I talked about when the mayor's violent sickness and health been
- 45:10challenged, I talk about all those different things in my
- 45:13book and it's under my website at www.jennychapin.com and then
- 45:19God led me to do that Facebook. Which is constantly growing and
- 45:23I'm not all about numbers. I'm about changing lives.
- 45:27We can have fit and I know that I know that we will see it
- 45:31better. Janice I don't I'm not a
- 45:34minister. You got the foreperson said that
- 45:39I'm in. I'm in the strength to Yamin, I
- 45:44guess in that area but I'm not a diagnosed.
- 45:47I just want this podcast and get gas on him that don't talk and
- 45:51not a me, do all the talkin and failed and tell this until Store
- 45:58and I'm getting so many great feedback on my interviews.
- 46:03So I know without a shadow of doubt, this is the this is the
- 46:06direction. God is taking, I didn't know
- 46:09when I first started I just stepped out there and just did
- 46:12it. And I was like interviews, I
- 46:16like animals or people just women to share their story that
- 46:20will bless ugly women. And so I want some money.
- 46:24I do my podcast twice a month but But once a month, I
- 46:29interview a guest. And when we reached out to me, I
- 46:35greatly accepted it. And I'm so glad I was obedient
- 46:39because she is really, really, we hadn't talked about any of
- 46:44this. We got this.
- 46:48So it really it really, really blessed me.
- 46:52I want to thank you reason for that.
- 46:55I'm gonna post a flyer you and everybody else see the flyer and
- 47:00went when they can go on Spotify app while Spotify, lays download
- 47:04the Spotify app so you can see these podcast twice a month and
- 47:11I think you the feel person I think I interview I interview my
- 47:16sister, my sister was my first interview and hers was when the
- 47:20marriage vow to death. Do us part my sister lost her
- 47:26husband. Several years ago, he went
- 47:31walking on the track and had a massive heart attack.
- 47:36And she tells her story how God has brought her through his not
- 47:41easy even today, but she shared with women.
- 47:45How they to appreciate their husband.
- 47:49Why are you have to be able to be a blessing to each other and
- 47:54how they both was in a good place at the time when he died?
- 47:58She said she was so glad that they were in a good thing.
- 48:01They weren't mad at each other and they were in a good place in
- 48:05life was really good. And the children was young, and
- 48:10all they saw was their future. But my sister this to this day.
- 48:15She says she she don't understand why I haven't gotten
- 48:19any better for her. She meets him so bad, so many
- 48:23things to remind her. So these interviews have I got
- 48:27so many feedback on these interviews.
- 48:31Oh, God is interviews and I really appreciate y'all.
- 48:34And once again we've I want to thank you so very much are, you
- 48:39know, when that, you know, when this podcast is out, I do hate
- 48:43that. The video stopped and never had
- 48:47that to happen. So I really, I really don't
- 48:49know. It.
- 48:50Just it just saying I'm not shocked.
- 48:52I'm not sure. So you'll get the straight
- 48:54stuff. Yeah.
- 48:59But to God be the glory again Miss.
- 49:01Janice, thank you so much for your service.
- 49:04Thank you so much for servicing. Married women in your group on
- 49:09your podcast. And again, I can can be found on
- 49:13Facebook Instagram. G YouTube at Reba Hart are Eva
- 49:19haart. You can and if you're interested
- 49:23as a woman that you want to walk through the wombs of your heart
- 49:26or your soul, I am your girl. Well, I help women win from the
- 49:31inside out. We deal with sole issue.
- 49:35So won't issues heart issues and then if I teach how to take lead
- 49:44in your life, if That's kind of dominating in your sphere of
- 49:48influence, at work, or in your community.
- 49:54I teach leadership skills and personal development skills.
- 49:57And so in through that all, I promise that you will be able to
- 50:01tell your story and share your story so powerful that it will
- 50:07draw others unto the Lord. Thank you, give Miss Janice, you
- 50:12are more than welcome and your own you said you on YouTube You
- 50:15as well. Yes.
- 50:16Okay why? I didn't know, I didn't know
- 50:18that you're on YouTube YouTube. My favorite station.
- 50:23And I love. What did you do?
- 50:26Yes. You think you think you really
- 50:30know those people like you and your family out, say that?
- 50:34I said my YouTube friend. I never meant.
- 50:36I love you too. I love you know, just just just
- 50:40listen to inspiring messages and teaching all of their.
- 50:46You have truly, you have true literary will bless my heart if
- 50:50you have blessed. Anybody else?
- 50:52You're Clear all, thank you so much.
- 50:54You're really, really blessed me.
- 50:57So, ladies, I want to thank you so much for your support.
- 51:01How you continuing to support me on these podcast?
- 51:06Thank you. All of your part of the women,
- 51:09majoring in their marriage, women measuring their marriage.
- 51:13That's the Facebook for women measuring their marriage.
- 51:16And I want to thank you all for that.
- 51:18And on the 28th this podcast will come out on December 20.
- 51:232:00. You can go to that group and you
- 51:26can go to the group women made your marriage.
- 51:28You can see it. Or if you have your notification
- 51:30on, you'll see a notification that comes up in is on Spotify,
- 51:36but you will be reminded constantly.
- 51:38You're going to see the flags. I'm getting ready to drop the
- 51:40flyer like as soon as we get off, I'm going to drop the
- 51:44flyer. So mark your calendars into it,
- 51:48be a blessing and and share this with other ladies.
- 51:52Share this. Who chose friends Shadows
- 51:54because don't try this at all. She don't need this.
- 51:58You don't know who need this. Because I'm telling you people
- 52:01walk around with a smile and face on.
- 52:04Yes. And you'll know what they're
- 52:06going through. Oh no.
- 52:07She only. I'm not going to sing her go to
- 52:09her. No may have a great man.
- 52:11Pass this when this, when this park has come out.
- 52:16Please share, don't try to look and determine who you think,
- 52:20needed. Share this podcast because I'm
- 52:23telling you you can't go by social media.
- 52:26These people on social media. I love social media because
- 52:29that's my platform, but people on social media, there's some
- 52:33good actors you'll be shocked. Then when they hear people to
- 52:36broke up, they be so sharp because all they saw was all the
- 52:41good. Food and a happy moments in.
- 52:43Yeah, the would seem to be the perfect time.
- 52:47So ladies share, share, share and I thank you all so much for
- 52:52continuing to rock for me. Again.
- 52:54I'm Janice fans, the founder of the marriage major.
- 52:59And the Riva, I want to thank you, and you have a blessed rest
- 53:03of your day. Thanks so very much.
- 53:08Bye. Hi Janice on our website,
- 53:12www.jfn.co.jp/toho order her book, women, majoring in
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- 53:25Also, if you have any questions or would like to reach out, feel
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- 53:32Thanks again for tuning in and we'll catch you in the next
- 53:35episode.