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Episode #216: How I Reverse Chronic and Autoimmune Disease: Identifying Your Imbalances (Part Two) · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome everybody to another episode of Beyond Labels Podcast with former host Joel Salatin.
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  SPEAKER_00: That would be me and our researcher host, hostess, uh Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cena McCullough.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you this is going to be part two of a two-part uh podcast on removing chronic illness, and maybe we should retitle it uh Reharmonizing the Body.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh if you did not hear part one, I strongly encourage you to go back and listen to part one before you listen to this one.
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  SPEAKER_00: In part one, Cena walked us through civilizations of antiquity around the globe who all viewed sickness, disease, disease, as some sort of imbalance or disharmony within the body.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what ancient remedies of herbs, everything from herbs to acupuncture to meditation, uh sought to restore.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was not until very recent times, and I think this is this was a a significant takeaway for me, is to just realize how the idea that uh that microbes and exterior externalities uh were the main players in in um in sickness.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is a relatively modern institution or modern concept.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's just good to remind ourselves of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so we went through that the the historical uh platform of this uh of this uh body's ability to restore itself, and uh and and now we're ready to dive into uh what kind of Cena calls her roadmap to getting to getting into the core of that onion, taking off the peels, getting into the core of the issue, and it is indeed very, very nuanced.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um uh we don't guarantee you know, we don't guarantee um healing for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: What we do guarantee is that as a result of this, you you have now the capacity and the tools to think differently about whatever it is that ails you, that our prayer is that it will move you um it will move you to a new harmony and a new balance and a new place of flourishing uh in your own health journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, Cena, um, let's go on with part two now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Joel.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're going to now dive into how do you figure out what is imbalanced in yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, I want to I want to remind everybody that this is what God showed me like over a decade ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, uh I I believe he shows you what you're ready to see and what you what resonates with you, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So he shows me things that are more um like what a scientist would think because that's like my level of my approach.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there are many, many different ways to reverse chronic and autoimmiles or what I call imbalances.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, there's many ways.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to share with you now what he showed me over a decade ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, this is a basic understanding, and my understanding has evolved as he has shown me new things since I've healed.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Joel, what I would love to do if our listeners are interested in in is um I want to give them this roadmap.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then let's also explore these other ways to reverse illnesses in future podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I would love to go into um like different energy healing modalities, you know, things that are cutting edge now in our uh medical establishment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I'm not gonna talk about those cutting edge things here, because that's not what he showed me initially.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if you're okay with that, I just have this idea that I think that would be great to keep building on this.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's that's fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm all in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now let's okay, great.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna explore a lot of different areas.
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  SPEAKER_01: This will be fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so for today, let me tell you what he showed me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this roadmap is what led to a full recovery, not only in myself, in my son, who my older son who was on the autism spectrum disorder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he also had idiopathic joint illness, uh, bumps on his arm, chronic constipation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, my my middle son, uh, my younger son, it also healed him, chronic constipation, bumps on the arm, healed my husband, who had lupus, recurring lupus, uh, sorry, lupus and recurring Lyme, my mother who had skin cancer, diabetes, um, heart disease, you name it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I took what he gave me, this roadmap, and I applied it to all these different loved ones and friends and now clients, and it works.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it may not be right for you, but this is what he showed me, and this is what has worked for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, this is more of a scientist perspective of basically solving this puzzle, like creating the getting the body back into harmony.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the first thing he showed me was um was a roadmap that had five roads, uh, five stops on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, these are five main areas to balance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now I call it the five R treasure map because each stop starts with an R.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, how great is that?
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  SPEAKER_01: That you know, he made it user-friendly.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's five stops.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's remove, replenish, repair, restore, and reconnect.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: These five steps, these five stops on this roadmap address the imbalance in the physical, mental, emotional, energetic, and spiritual being, you know, uh aspects of imbalance or disharmony.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in each of these stops, at each of these stops, you are looking for deficiencies and toxicities.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he showed it to me as a coin, and there's two sides of a coin.
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  SPEAKER_01: One side represents deficiencies, the other side represents toxicities.
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  SPEAKER_01: And dis-ease or imbalance is simply you're trying to balance that coin, you're trying to correct deficiencies and remove these toxicities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Simplistic way that he showed this to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Each stop, we're finding deficiencies and toxicities.
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  SPEAKER_01: I will say there are nuances, and we can get into that later.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, like if you consume a certain nutrient in a supplemental form in a large quantity, it could out compete another nutrient.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can cause secondary deficiencies.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's all these nuances, but we're starting with a basic uh understanding.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the general overview is the first stop, which is remove.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're trying to identify triggers or these um toxicities, which would be like chemicals in and on your food, including chemical sensitivities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, food and food and chemical sensitivities.
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  SPEAKER_01: It could be um chemicals in the air that you breathe or the water that you consume or that you bathe in.
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  SPEAKER_01: It could be chronic stress.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just giving you an overview and then we'll go into detail.
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  SPEAKER_01: The second stop is replenish.
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  SPEAKER_01: This means that you're looking for your deficiencies, like if you have micronutrient deficiencies, if you have macronutrient deficiencies, like if you're not consuming enough fat, if you're consuming too many or healthy fat, if you're consuming too many um carbohydrates, if you're not consuming real salt, um, if you are lacking in diversity or quantity in your microbiome, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: If you, in other words, if you have microbial dysfunction, if you are lacking sleep, if you are not hydrated, if your circadian rhythm is off or dysfunctional.
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  SPEAKER_01: The next stop is repair.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we have remove, replenish, and now repair.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is repairing of gut lining, repairing of um any tissue that may have been damaged, for example.
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  SPEAKER_01: The next R is restore.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is where you're restoring movement in your life, body movement, um, and also restoring trust in your own body.
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  SPEAKER_01: A whole big category there.
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  SPEAKER_01: The fifth R on our roadmap is reconnect.
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  SPEAKER_01: This means to reconnect with yourself, your food, your environment, your family, your community, and God, or whatever higher power you abscribe to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those that's a generalized overview of the five Rs on this roadmap.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Joel, it was incredible the way that he showed it to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like I was cooking in the kitchen, asking, what's the next step?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I was in um remission at that time.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had not learned about the emotional energetic component of reversing a dis-ease or imbalance.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was, and I had pain in my right forearm, which was um a flare-up, as they call in the autoimmune community, which um just means you're really you're not healed yet.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember praying to him as I was cooking and I asked, you know, I'm ready for the next level.
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  SPEAKER_01: Show me how what do I do next?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't want to live in fear that this thing's coming back, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: And Joel, it was like fireworks going off in my mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there it was, the roadmap.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was just beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there are nuances and caveats um and this roadmap.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think my program is like 40 hours or something of me walking you through this roadmap.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna try to do it in brevity here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and some of these concepts we've already um covered in podcasts, so we can refer you to those podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're on this quest now looking at this roadmap and we're trying to find toxicities and deficiencies.
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  SPEAKER_01: First, we're gonna go to our food.
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  SPEAKER_01: This one will be easy because we've done podcasts about most of this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, there are toxicities in foods that can lead to um imbalance, and there's also toxicities in foods that can lead to deficiencies in the body.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some of the um chemicals that he showed me are grass, generally recognized as safe, and GMOs and recombinant bovine growth hormone or RBGH.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've covered those extensively on this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, glyphosate, we've covered that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when I say that, what I mean is what he showed me was in order to return to balance, in order to fully heal and not just be in some man-made description of um remission, but to fully heal, it it was it required a 100% commitment.
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  SPEAKER_01: So all grass chemicals removed, all GMOs removed, no RBGH consumed, no glyphosate consumed.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a hundred percent commitment until you restore the balance, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because right when you are sick, and I know a lot of people like to be, oh, well, let's do 80-20.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a problem with that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I don't what you get to choose, whatever you want to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is if somebody is is chronically ill, they do not have the type of resiliency that a healthy person has.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they don't have the resiliency, generally speaking, to be able to detoxify the body when it's when they're consuming glyphosate for three meals a day, for example, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So when you are sick and you're trying to get back, so in other words, when you're in balance and you're trying to get back into balance, understand the body isn't at the same place as somebody who's healthy.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is a hundred percent commitment.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is what he showed me.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what happened to me and everybody who I've ever helped.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a hundred percent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, another other chemicals in the food are meat, glue, food fortification, artificial sweeteners, food preservatives, dyes, and artificial and natural colorings, artificial and natural flavoring, seed oil, processed foods, and plastics in your food.
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  SPEAKER_01: These are the main chemical categories that he showed me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you think about it, when I'm looking through this list, which of these are made of God?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Another way to say that is how many of these are man-made?
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  SPEAKER_00: They're all man-made, all of them, they are all man-made, and you and you can't make them in your kitchen either.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't make them in your kitchen, exactly right, and they're all man-made.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this is a recurring theme to what he showed me, and I didn't know this at the time, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I because you know I'm not a biblical scholar.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, this was a huge awakening to me, but basically, he was saying turn back to the way that God designed us to eat and to live.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the common theme here.
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  SPEAKER_01: He did not design us to eat these chemicals, and he showed me it was 100% I needed to get these out of my uh my life to restore this balance.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's a broad category of the chemicals that could help anybody to start feeling better.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, we all have different triggers, so some of these are going to affect you more than others.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, keep that in mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: We all are affected by things at different levels and intensities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, one of the most critical components is to figure out which foods you are allergic or sensitive to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, this is huge.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they are different things.
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  SPEAKER_01: An allergy and a sensitivity are different things.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when we test for true, what we call true allergies, that's an IgE test.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's that's what you you we tend to think of IgE responses as like anaphylactic shock, you know, or like the throat closing up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like these are the reactions that occur shortly after you consume a food or within hours after you consume a food.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's an IgE or true allergy.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is not as common as you might think.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like we are seeing food allergies rise, especially among children, you know, peanut allergies and such.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what is more common is people become sensitive to foods.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sensitivities occur through an entirely different metabolic pathway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, they're entirely different, and they tend to present differently as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: We call these delayed hypersensitivities.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, for example, you can eat a food that you're sensitive to, and you can have a symptom appear three weeks later because it's a delayed reaction.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is why simply doing diet elimination reintroduction tends to fail.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, even in all of my training, you know, again, I'm a trained uh PhD in nutrition, so I know how to do diet elimination reintroduction.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did that, and I was able to um to come up with a list of almost every single food trigger that I had, but I couldn't identify all of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's because I had a handful of sensitivities.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I wasn't able to eat it one day and then track symptoms for three months, sorry, three weeks to figure out if I had a new symptom.
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  SPEAKER_01: And part of that's because when you get so sick, your baseline becomes distorted.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't have a healthy baseline.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, another part is because sometimes when the sensitivity presents itself, it's not an obvious symptom.
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  SPEAKER_01: For example, you don't have to have gastrointestinal issues in order to have a sensitivity to food.
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  SPEAKER_01: They think somewhere around like 84 to 86% of people who are sensitive to gluten don't actually have GI symptoms.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's a fallacy that you have to have a GI symptom to have a sensitivity.
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  SPEAKER_01: A sensitivity may appear as high blood pressure or bumps on the arm or um uh seasonal allergies, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: We call it seasonal allergy, but it may actually be a sensitivity to a food.
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  SPEAKER_01: It could be a headache or a migraine, uh, it could be pain in the body.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, they they can appear, a sensitivity can appear through a whole wide range of different symptoms and it can be delayed.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what I like to think of is a sensitivity is just a food that your body perceives as being toxic to you in that moment because you're out of balance.
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  SPEAKER_01: But once you return to balance, you can eat that food again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we've seen this happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, like I can eat eggs and chicken now, but when I was healing, I could not.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had the highest um immune response possible to eggs and chicken, but now I can consume it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh we're gonna talk about testing in just a minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me let me continue to go through these different categories.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we're in food allergies and sensitivities.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, how do you know which ones you have?
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  SPEAKER_01: The most common sensitivities are gonna be to um grains, so glutins in all grains, um, dairy, raw A2, A2 dairy is a possible exception, and we've talked about that on the program already.
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  SPEAKER_01: Refined sugar, so any man-made sugar, but depending on the severity of your imbalance, fruit, fruit can also continue um or perpetuate an imbalance because it still is sugar.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, other common food triggers are going to be seeds and nuts and beans and eggs, you know, like in legumes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, those are more individualized, but the most common ones are the grains and the dairy and the sugar, um, and too much carbohydrate and too little healthy fats, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: That low-fat craze made us sicker.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you and I have talked about this in great detail on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I won't um go into great detail, but I will say that when somebody eats a diet that is high in carbohydrates, it releases um blood glue, it it increases the blood glucose, releases insulin, and that insulin spike uh is known to be um thought of as inflammatory in modern science.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it can keep the inflammation perpetuated.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we have lots of uh studies showing that a low carbohydrate diet uh that has a healthier fat profile in it can actually reverse many conditions, um, including depression.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so those are the top triggers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, to reverse them, you have to remove them 100%.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like once you know you have this trigger, you have to remove them 100% until the body no longer sees them as um as a potential toxin.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that typically takes uh three generations of white blood cells to turn over.
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  SPEAKER_01: So while you're here, people say, oh, just remove it from the diet uh for like a week, two weeks, three weeks, you know, and then add it back into the diet.
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't actually see that being successful most of the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you re when you add it back into the diet, you may not initially identify as symptom.
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  SPEAKER_01: The symptom may appear as a different symptom than you had before, but it also may take uh, you know, a few weeks to present as a symptom again because you did give it some your immune system a break to a certain extent.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what we're thinking, what we are realizing, again, this is cutting edge, so there's no clear-cut answer, okay?
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  SPEAKER_01: But I can tell you what we're seeing in clinic.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're seeing that if you don't wait long enough, the body has a memory, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: We'll say we'd say the immune system has a memory.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so if you don't wait long enough, it can remember that food as being a possible toxin to it, like a trigger, and it can begin to amount an immune response again, which is an inflammatory response.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's better to wait longer than to reintroduce it too soon.
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  SPEAKER_01: What we are finding in clinic is that it usually takes three generations of white blood cells to uh forget, to forget that that was a toxin to the body.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that's about 18 months.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's much longer than most people are actually restricting their diets.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, for some, they can introduce it sooner.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is Just a generalization based on what we're seeing in clinic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, once um, another so another component of this, again, there's all these caveats and nuances.
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  SPEAKER_01: Food is the most complex category of all these.
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  SPEAKER_01: Another thing you need to do is cycle your food.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is based on God's design as well of the seasons, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Things grown seasonally.
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  SPEAKER_01: But so if you don't want to eat in season or you don't know what that looks like, because we have a plethora of produce available to us at all times in the grocery store, just cycle your foods.
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  SPEAKER_01: The immune system needs a break from foods, from all foods.
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  SPEAKER_01: You need you need to rotate what foods you're consuming so that the immune system doesn't get overwhelmed with any particular food, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: This is one way that you can avoid developing food allergies and food sensitivities is by rotating the foods.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Cena, um, you know, Sally Fowl and Weston A.
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  SPEAKER_00: Price Foundation, one of the one of the things that they that you know that Pottinger or that um Weston A.
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  SPEAKER_00: Price found in his when he was looking at these um long-lived long-lived healthy cultures, was often that their diet was very simple.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, the the Mongols made they milked yaks and had yak milk and fermented yak yogurt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um virtually, you know, it was like 80% of their diet every every single day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um so how do you how do you reconcile an indigenous simple simple diet like that with the cycling?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's an excellent question.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh a lot of layers to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that we were designed to have a more simple diet.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we were designed to eat all of these foods imported into our area.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're designed to eat what was grown in the area.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um one thing is if you have an indigenous culture, like a tribe, for example, their food is local.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's for example, it's ripe, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: They'd be eating produce that's ripe.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're picking it, they're foraging it themselves, it's ripe.
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  SPEAKER_01: It has a entirely different profile than what we find in the grocery store.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, and we've talked about this a little bit on the program, but the nutrient profile is going to be different than if we're importing food into our grocery stores because you're picking it unriped, you're waxing it, you're shipping it, you're gassing it, or some kind of ripening agent.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a different food than what they're going to eat.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: So we are going to be exposed to a different nutrient profile and different chemicals in and on that food than an indigenous tribe is going to be exposed to.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: They will probably have less chemicals on their food as well.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like tribes that are going out, let's say um they're gardening or they're foraging, they're not going to have all the glyphosate, for example, most likely, that we're going to have on, or chloroquat, like they're not going to have these foods.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're not going to be eating processed foods.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, true tribes, they're not going to be eating processed foods, which is something that we eat that has all different kinds of chemicals in them.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so if you're living, so when I'm saying you're going to cycle these foods, I'm assuming that you are going to be shopping in the grocery store, like most people.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: If you are living in that paradigm where those are the foods available to you, you need to cycle them because it they're different than even the we what we are supposed to eat.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I have my my glass of raw milk every single morning.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: If I don't have a I don't have a glass of raw milk every morning, you know, I haven't I haven't eaten breakfast.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: So uh and and and you know, and here on the farm we have you know eggs and sausage and and um we we we eat simply but it's unprocessed and it's yeah.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: So you know I I don't know.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: And yours is mostly farm fresh, right?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're getting the raw milk locally, you have the chickens, you're getting the eggs, like the meat is your meat that you that you raise there.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: So yours is local, um, you're getting it fresh, and you don't have all these chemicals added to it.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um so that that puts a little bit of that puts a nuance on the cycling, is what I'm getting at.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: But you're also you're you know in a way, so you also garden, right?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: So you're eating, you're consuming produce in season based on what your garden is providing for you.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: The chickens are free range, right?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're they're consuming what's growing in season, like through the grasses and the bugs, what's in season.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: So they are also eating, so are your cows.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you're I'm so glad you brought this up because this is this is a brilliant point, is that it not only depends on what you choose to eat, it's what your food is eating.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, your food that you're eating that you just described is in harmony with nature, right?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: With God's design.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you're not forcing, you're not like putting your cows in, you know, uh a dry lot and giving it these processed dried grains and stuff.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're not doing that.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that is going to cause an imbalance in that cow, and then you're going to eat the consequences of that imbalance when you eat that cow.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's part of it is that when when I say that those local tribes are not eating the chemicals, they're collecting it ripe, they're eating foods that are eating in season.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: So the food, the the animals that they're eating are cycling for them.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: The produce available to them is being cycled for them.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: We we have lost that ability.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: Most of us can't tell you what grows in season in our area.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like we have no concept of that.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, so the ideal is you're going to uh gray grow and raise your own food or support local farmers in your area who are farming in that local environment, right?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: And you and then if you do that, you will naturally eat seasonally, right?
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: Most of us, yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's actually a uh a kind of a private um supermarket grocery store in Richmond that we supply, and um and they they only sell sell strawberries the two months of the year that they're in season here.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Where where are the you know, where's the strawberries?
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they they don't import them from Peru, you know, in the wintertime.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: And they they and they just they just make this big hoo-ha every spring, you know, two weeks till strawberry hard strawberries, one week till strawberries.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's this big, you know, uh big celebratory spring gala, you know, when the strawberries come in.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I I just I just salute, I think it's wonderful, you know, that they have held the line as a retailer and and just said, you know, we're gonna we're gonna feature season.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so for two months, come and get strawberries, get a pile of them.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: And they've act they've actually helped a couple strawberry operations, you know, stay in business by by the the hoopla they've created around the spring strawberry season.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and so it's a you know it's a it's a great thing.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I bet they taste better too.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no question.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Locally raised, uh, in season, locally grown.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: They're not, you know, air freighted from Peru or anything.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: And uh totally it's an entire yeah, it's an entirely different.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: If you've ever grown your own tomato, for example, it tastes so different than what's in the grocery store.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like you won't go back, you know, because it's because the profile is that much deeper and richer, it's more satiating when you eat it.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: So you actually end up eating less, right?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but and to your point, uh so when I say that the top triggers are like grains and dairy, but raw A2A2 is possibly an exception.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um that doesn't mean that everybody that that doesn't mean that everyone who's sick shouldn't consume grains or shouldn't eat dairy.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's not what I'm saying.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying statistically speaking, these are the top, the top triggers, but there have been people who have healed themselves on a raw milk diet, right?
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: So there are that's what I'm saying.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's a complexity, there's a lot of nuances.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: One way you can test for um okay, so wait, let me back up for a second.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: People always ask me about testing.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: I know, like, oh okay, let me try to be really clear.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: So people always ask, well, how do I test for that?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: And what that and that.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: So let me say this.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, in this roadmap that I'm providing, there are a lot of people now who have come out, um, you know, like like I said, God showed me this over a decade ago, but now there's more and more people, practitioners, for example, who are helping people reverse conditions.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you look at how they're doing it, they're almost identical to what I'm going through now and will continue to go through in this podcast.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: So there's something to this that we have all stumbled upon, something that's very similar as a roadmap that helps people to actually fully heal.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so so the question then becomes well, how do I personalize it for me?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: How do I individualize it?
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: And the answer is for roughly 60% of people, if you just follow this roadmap and you base it on the statistics of the most common triggers, about 60% of those people heal.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: About 40% of the people don't.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: They may start feeling better, maybe they get better, then they get worse, or maybe they get better, but they plateau and they need something else.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Those are the people who we say need personalized testing.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: Testing is expensive because it's mostly not covered by insurance.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: The good tests are usually not covered by insurance at this point.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, having said that, a lot of people try this 60% approach first of just try the roadmap, remove all these common triggers, um, you know, replenish nutrients and stuff, which we can talk about.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then if that doesn't work, like say they've been on it for about a month and they're not having any improvements, you know, you need to do testing.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: There's something that's been missed.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the reasons why that happens is because sometimes uh we remove some triggers.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like everybody has a multitude of triggers, okay?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: There's not one trigger.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: There, there's always a multitude of triggers that led to this imbalance, and they're always on there's at least a trigger on each stop of the roadmap.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and that's what we're trying to find.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: We're trying to find these triggers, these deficiencies and toxicities on each stop of the roadmap.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody has these who everyone who's sick has these triggers at each stop.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: There will be a given trigger at each stop that is more important than the others.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: So you may be removing triggers that are contributing to the issue, but if you're still having symptoms, you haven't found the top trigger yet, right?
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: That is how he showed it to me, and that is what we're seeing in practice.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not going to hurt you to start removing some of these triggers as long as you're, you know, um accounting for any nutrient losses.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you want to do the testing route, there are some gold standard tests that we use.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and what I would like to do is I will put uh like a description and links to those in the show description because sometimes companies go out of business.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to say the companies and then it goes out of business.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: Someone watches this and they're like, Well, where's that company?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: This way I can constantly update it for the listener.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: So we will include uh some testing options that I trust.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Now I am not diagnosing or prescribing any of these.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not a medical doctor.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna share a gold standard test that I trust that I used and continue to use for clients that work.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's the whole testing component.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to talk about more like how which tests to use, because they're all gonna be in that little link.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but one of the one of the reasons, what I was gonna say is one of the reasons why there's also so many nuances to the foods is because let's say somebody has heavy metals in their body, then you may be reacting to certain foods like dairy that you otherwise might not react to, because the body is so inflamed chronically that it cannot effectively release the heavy metals.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's gonna lead to most likely food sensitivities.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why one person may not be able to consume the dairy strictly from a toxin that exists in their body, even if they don't have like lactose intolerance, for example, but somebody else can consume it.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: If somebody has a sensitivity to glutins, they're more likely to have a sensitivity to dairy because the A1 casein in dairy looks structurally similar to gluten.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: Now, can they get around that by consuming raw A2A2 milk?
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Possibly, they can possibly do that.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: They can so they can consume it and see what happens.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: If they don't get better, then they need to start looking at it as a potential trigger, or they can test for it.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: So, okay, did I cover the food one well enough?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, yeah, let's let's let's let's uh yeah, because we're really running out of time.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: So we want to get through the the roadmap.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's the uh that's the remove, yeah.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so and then also remove plastics.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: So stop storing stuff in plastic containers, don't drink out of plastic containers, you know, don't microwave anything.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to heat something up, use a toaster oven, use your oven, and certainly don't heat it up in plastic, don't store stuff in the freezer and plastics.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, then there's chemicals in the home.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: We've already talked about this on the podcast.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: So just as a reminder, you can have household items like cleaning supplies and whatnot that are very that can be very toxic to people.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: So you want to get um, you know, more natural cleaning supplies.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: I use um a lot of I use cloths, uh, particular kind of cloths like a Norwax cloth.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: I use essential oils.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you can even use distilled water with essential oil drops into it in a spray bottle.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: You could also use like organic apple cider vinegar, for example, or organic coconut vinegar diluted.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, just as some examples.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: You got to check your personal care products, your soaps, your lotions, if you're using perfume, if you're using makeup or cologne, any of those things, you gotta check them.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Don't put anything on your body that has a man-made chemical in it.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you wouldn't, you we don't want to put it in our bodies through food, and you don't want to put it on your body either through personal care products.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: Then there's chemicals in the environment, heavy metals, like I mentioned.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: These can be in food, water, it could be in the paint, it can be in silver fillings, which sometimes make up um 50% of those fillings can sometimes be mercury.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it can be in vaccines.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to get into that right now.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to do a future podcast dedicated to that.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it could be in um, you know, arsenic, uh, prescription drugs can all be in your drinking water.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: So you need a good filter on the water, a whole house, whole house water filtration system.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if you're worried about air pollution, you can get um really good HEPA filters for the air.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you can also get a HEPA filter system um on your AC unit.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: You can also get a UV light installed if you're worried about molds or things like that.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I have a vacuum cleaner that has a good HEPA filter in it.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: You can also, uh one thing that we do routinely in our house is we air out our house.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Indoor pollution can actually itself lead to acute and chronic illness.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the EPA, the American Lung Association, they've all identified air toxicity as one of the top five urgent environmental risks to these kinds of conditions.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: The air inside your house can contain two to five times more pollutants than the outdoor air.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: So that's because stuff off gases like your furniture, mattresses, carpet, paints, sometimes there's radon from the ground, um, pollens, pesticides brought in through your shoes in the wind.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: And then we close up our house and they can get trapped in there.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: So even things like scented candles and fragrances and non-cooks, uh nonstick cookware, which I would never use, that aerosolizes and you breathe that in.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you want to make sure that you air the house out and you're not using any um anything like uh plug-in air fresheners and things like that.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Mold is a big one.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: We had a whole podcast with Dr.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Peter Osborne on mold.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: That is one of the most common triggers.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: I will tell you that.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: If if you're trying the 60% route, so you're trying not to do testing, and you're making all these changes, you're removing all these triggers, and it's not working, the two most common um toxicities that prevent people from healing are exposure to mold because it can stay in the body.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_01: If you're inflamed, the mycotoxins can stay in the body for years.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: So mold exposure and heavy metals.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: Every single time when I'm working with somebody and the 60% doesn't work, we test, and at least one of those shows up as positive.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so heavy metals and mold.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, as I mentioned, dehydration is another big um contributor to chronic and autoimmune conditions.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: High cholesterol, high blood sugar can all be caused by dehydration, in fact.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, medications, prescription medications are uh somewhere around the third or fourth leading cause of death.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Half of those deaths occurred because even though the patient took them as prescribed, it wasn't an overdose.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: But 70% of all adults are on these prescription drugs.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um the average drug contains 70 different side effects, and some of them are capable of triggering autoimmune disease within themselves.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: And Joel, I believe we did a whole podcast on this with lupus-induced um medications, um, depression-induced medications.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not saying stop consuming those medications, do not do that, work with your healthcare practitioner.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying there are ways that you can come off the medications while working with a trained healthcare practitioner by making these other diet and lifestyle choices.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then it will reduce your um susceptibility to any of those side effects and potential chronic diseases triggered by uh medication.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, sunglasses.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about that with Dr.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Alexis Cowan.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Sunglasses um are showing to be something that can dysregulate your circadian rhythm that can potentially make you more susceptible to developing things like skin cancers.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it can make you more metabolically um vulnerable, so less uh mitochondrial function to make makes your mitochondria more dysfunctional.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Possibly.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: This is a theory.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: It seems to hold true, but it is still in the theory stage.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Then we have um non-native electromagnetic fields.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: So the earth has electromagnetic field, the sun has an electromagnetic field, we generate an electromagnetic field.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: But as you notice, the recurring theme here, the electromagnetic fields made by man tend to be toxic to us.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: Anything from smart meters to 5G, the small cell wireless telecommunications facilities, your Wi-Fi, uh, your phone, your laptop, you know, the devices we put the kids on that are wireless, um, Bluetooth, all of these things do interact with your field.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: And Dr.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: Cowan and Sally Fallon talk a lot about that.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna move forward from that for now.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: But that is a big indicator, and there is research to show that um they they can contribute to autoimmune and chronic illnesses.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um in so the the last category in these triggers in the remove is a debated category.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's infections, which I call imbalances.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: The theory on the thinking on this is shifting, not in mainstream, right?
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: They still call these infections, but those of us that are pushing the boundary are understanding these as not infections, but just imbalances.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: So anything from H.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: pylori to SIBO to Yeast overgrowth to Lyme, uh, gum disease.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: These are all just imbalances.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Joel, I spoke with some of the top experts, leading experts on SIBO, small intestinal bacteria overgrowth.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: And there's actually free online health summits um supporting this as well.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: And what they're all saying is that they worked for decades trying to correct the quote unquote infection that causes SIBO.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a moving target, right?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: They would target one type of bacteria, for example, and then that one would show up negative, but then another one would appear.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Then they target that bacteria, that would show up negative, another one appear.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_01: So the treatment wasn't working.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: And what all of these practitioners concluded, and these are medical doctors, what they all concluded independently was that SIBO has an emotional etiology, meaning if there's an emotional root cause.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why you you can test, quote unquote, for an infection, but the microbiome shifts.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a moving target.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: And as you shift your emotional health, you shift the health of your microbiome.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna put a pin in that one for now because we don't.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: The newer thinking is that you do not try to correct these quote infections or what I'm calling imbalances by targeting them with things like antibiotics or antifungals, right?
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: You're actually trying to just return them to balance.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: Along those lines, oral health is something that is often very um misunderstood and not looked at as a physical trigger for autoimmune conditions.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: But I will tell you, every single condition that you can think of, autoimmune or chronic condition, it's linked to the oral health, the oral microbiome, and it's linked through the scientific literature.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: One example is a 2025 study.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: So just this year, it was in the International Journal of Cardiology, congenital heart disease.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it says that I'm gonna read you this quote a growing body of evidence links poor oral health, particularly periodontas, uh periodontitis, so like gum disease.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: So poor oral health, linking it to adverse cardiovascular outcomes, including myocardial infarction, stroke, and atherosclerosis.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Studies have demonstrated that treating periodontitis can lower systemic inflammation, improve endothelial dysfunction, and reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: It is not a localized oral condition.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: It is a significant contributor to systemic inflammation that affects cardiovascular health.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: The study also linked your oral health to diabetes, arthritis, cognitive decline, and you know, particularly Alzheimer's disease.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: So this is already there in the literature, and they're saying that this is it's an imbalance.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's an imbalance that it you may think it's in your mouth, but it is systemic and it is linked to all of these conditions.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: So you cannot overlook um your oral health.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_01: Were you gonna jump in?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I that um yeah, uh that makes sense.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Makes sense, yeah, because everything's connected, right?
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Just like the Bible and the ancients told us from the first podcast, everything is connected that you do.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to have good oral health.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: We did a podcast on oral health with, I think it was your dentist, Joel, and we talked about ways to improve oral health.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_01: So if you missed that one, check that out.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_01: Is his name Jesse?
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_01: What's his name?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jesse.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh Dr.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Jesse.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, yeah, I mean, you go in there and he uses an infrared light to stick out your tongue.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, you stick out your tongue.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: He uses the infrared light uh on your tongue, and he can read your microbiome health with the light on on your tongue.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty it's pretty wild.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's really cool.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean that's that's that's a talk about a cheap, quick, a quick way just to get a whatever, just to get a benchmark, you know, for yourself.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you can't follow me around and drink out of the couch off, uh you can go to him and get your you know get your tongue read.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and there's lots of you know remedies you can do for that.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about that in that podcast from salt rinses to um oil pulling, essential oils, and whatnot.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, but let's move on to the next one.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: So the next are so those are some toxicities, right?
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: It and it's just one side of the coin of imbalance.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're looking for deficiencies.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so one of the most common deficiencies is micronutrients, vitamins, and minerals.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, some of the most common are vitamins A and D, which you know, you can get that in cod liver oil.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: I would never supplement with vitamin D straight.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: If you're gonna do it, I would do cod liver oil.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, B12 is a common deficiency, magnesium, zinc, and selenium.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um you can you can test for those.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: Now, here's one time when I test it.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: So if the 60% route didn't work for you, this is one of the tests that you would want to do because micronutrient deficiencies are becoming very common in our culture.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_01: And um, if you just start guessing, you can actually create a secondary deficiency because certain nutrients out compete.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: And Western medicine knows this.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was trained on this in my doctoral uh in my doctoral studies.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: So everyone knows this.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: So you don't just want to start taking handfuls of large doses of vitamins and minerals.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: And in fact, I think it was the New York Times, but don't quote me on that.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody just came out this last week with an article talking about um health detriments from consuming supplements.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: So once again, it's coming out there that it may not be the best idea uh if you're unless you're severely deficient.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: So don't guess on this one.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: I would test, but if you want to take like cod liver oil, that seems to be you know pretty universal, that the body can accept that.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we can get into that later and in a in a in another podcast where we talk about the evolution of um what he has shown me for you know chronic and autoimmune illnesses.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: These tests, keep this in mind, these tests are all a manifestation of your consciousness.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like so of the test results.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: So your micronutrient status, for example, it's a manifestation of your consciousness.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: But we'll get into that later.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: And that's more of why I don't always rely on the tests.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but let's put a pin in that and just planting a little seed on that.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then of course, you need to see if you're deficient in any microbes.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: And again, you can choose to test for this, or you can choose to just start uh supporting your microbial health with diversity.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: So pre-improbiotics, if you can tolerate fermented foods, um, rest, play, and laughter.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: Most of the time, people go toward, oh, I'm doing the pre-improbiotics, I'm consuming all these fermented foods, you know, and that's that's great if your body can handle that, but that's only a fraction of the equation of what builds a robust, healthy microbiome.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: Rest, play, and laughter are equally as important.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: And this comes in line with the stress management that we were talking about.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_01: Chronic stress will impede you from balancing your microbiome.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, again, water and electrolytes are um common deficiencies.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_01: You could also be deficiencies in other deficient in other nutrients like um coQ10, uh, glutamine, collagen, uh, sunlight and darkness, which I consider nutrients.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: Those are big deficiencies in our culture.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you could not be getting enough sleep.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is also big in our culture.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: When you heal, there is some kind of um consensus.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: If you talk to people who have healed themselves, it usually requires around 10 hours of sleep and/or rest per day.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: 10 hours.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, when was the last time that you got 10 hours of sleep and/or rest in one day, right?
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to prioritize it.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like healing, it becomes in a way, um, a part-time job because you have to prioritize rest and sleep and play.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, those are they are essential nutrients for healing.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Another deficiency is lack of movement.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: This could be whatever um your body is telling you that it needs, like whatever God is speaking to you, or um, so for me, I could barely move at all when I was really sick.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it was bare minimum movements.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, walking is a great form of exercise if someone's able to do that.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Ancient movements are making a comeback, what are called primal movements, right?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: Focusing on gait, squatting, lunging, hinging, pushing, pulling, twisting, and rotating.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: These are all things that would be great for us to all work towards.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: These are the seven primary motions that are thought that if you have resiliency physically, you should be able to do these.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they and so that's another thing to work toward.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: But as we've talked about on a previous podcast, exercise, you want to go slow.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that exercise physiology was actually one of my minors, and it was part of my dissertation.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: It the process of adapting to exercise does initiate inflammation.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: So if you are somebody who is chronically ill and you have high, higher than desired levels of inflammation, exercise could exacerbate it.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not saying don't exercise.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying do not overdo it and choose your movements wisely.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like I do a lot of when I was sick, I did a lot of walking or trying to walk, uh, flowing movements, even like chair yoga, like you know, something, something easy.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, along those same lines is flexibility.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: This may this is often kind of glassed over.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: We all got to be flexible.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: And oh, I was so much more flexible when I was a young child, you know?
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: This is so important because flexibility is related to your fascia, which is your connective tissue, which connects all the organs and systems throughout your entire body.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: The fascia, as we are understanding it, transports light or biophotons.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: This goes back, modern science is now echoing these ancient cultures we talked about in the first podcast, that they have this light, this life force moving through them.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's this energy moving through them.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: We can now measure that we have these, um, we have this light moving through this connective tissue.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: If the connective tissue is tight and all bound up from you know, knots in your muscles or just inflexibility in general, the light becomes distorted in those areas, or it can.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: It can become incoherent, which means dis-ease can ensue, a lack of ease can ensue because the body downstream, like so, wherever the imagine the light running through, like your IT band, you know, the band on the side of your leg.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, just start on your hip.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: Think of this band going from your hip to your knee.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine a beam of light going through that area, that band on your leg.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: If there's a knot in there, what's gonna happen to the light?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna be able to penetrate all the way through effectively to your knee, right?
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_01: Light carries information, so it is carrying instructions to that part of the body of how to operate in that given moment.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: So you stop the light, and we have measured now the tissues there get um get thicker.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so flexibility is key, just like keeping um your body moving.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: Nature, getting out in nature, you know, getting close to God.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it can lower blood pressure, stress hormones, and whatnot.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, grounding, we talked about this before as well.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: You can actually absorb uh pick up electrons from the ground, which can energize and help to harmonize the body.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then other stressors, which can be good if done properly, like exposure to cold and heat.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about this with Dr.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Alexis Cowan.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_01: We are too comfortable in our modern environment where we're not really exposed to the cold.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we don't want to be exposed to the heat, but being exposed to cold can generate vitamin D naturally in your body and improve your mitochondrial health and mitochondrial efficiency.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: So we have that that's another thing that's deficient in in our lives.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: And again, I'm not saying, you know, go cold plunge.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: You need to really be careful when you're already sick.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just listing out these are the things that God showed me as to all these areas in which we are not um, we are far removed from the way our bodies were designed to operate.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, how are we doing on time?
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because that was just the physical.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're now we've getting into the mental.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we've got about five minutes.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh okay.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's let's just let me just try to wrap this up real fast.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give you the highlights.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: Mental toxicities and deficiencies.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh toxicity, obvious one, is the chronic stress.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's what you perceive, what's contained in your consciousness, and that actually becomes an energetic imprint in your biofield.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_01: We already talked about that.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: But the imprint dictates your physical health, uh, your neurotransmitter level, hormone level, and so forth.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: So it basically is going to dictate whether or not the physical body is in balance, just like the ancient cultures believed that people were born with the energetic signature.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you are too, and you can change that imprint um by in part managing stress.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: So part of that is changing your perception.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: Negative perceptions can um actually change your physiology.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: It uh your perception shapes shapes your belief.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um what sorry, let me say that.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: So your your belief of something and perception go hand in hand, and they they dictate what emotion is going to be elicited as you move through life.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: And oftentimes these negative perceptions or beliefs are based on past trauma, right?
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: The negative belief could be anything from how you think about dis-ease, you know, like we talked about in the first podcast.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_01: Is it disempowering to you?
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: Is it a life sentence?
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: It could be a negative belief, could be how you think about yourself if you're not good enough.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm not good enough to get on the to get that promotion, I'm not good enough to take a vacation or to have a community, or you lack purpose.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, a negative belief could be how you think about life.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're out to get me.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's it's shaped by the information that you allow, is the information that you are mentally consuming, um, as well as by your past.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to choose what information you're going to allow into your mind because it does shape your perception, your beliefs, which then affect your emotions.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: So the emotional toxicities are the next category.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: As I said, your thoughts shape your beliefs, which shape your perception, and then you create emotions based on that perception.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: We've talked about adverse childhood experiences and attachment disorder on this podcast.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you haven't listened to those episodes, I highly recommend you go back.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_01: Those episodes will help you identify potential toxicities and deficiencies.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: These go hand in hand because on the emotional level, there's a deficiency in love and acceptance.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's fear-based.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: We sit in this space of fear on this emotional level because when you get down to the root of it, most of us just don't feel love and loved and accepted.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that started in childhood.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: The remedy for that is to learn to love and accept yourself so that you stop chasing the external validation and approval.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: When you do that, you learn to release the stuck emotions, and that requires forgiveness.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: So forgiveness is another critical aspect of this emotional component.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's a deficiency in forgiveness.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: Part of this is also a deficiency in family, community, and connection to God or a higher power.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's all encompassed in trying to correct toxicities and deficiencies on the emotional level.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, then we get to the spiritual toxicities, which um, you know, spiritual warfare and whatnot.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_01: But that way, you're actually better equipped at that than I am.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you give sermons, but you can see it.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: You can see it in the news, right?
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: You can see it in the rhetoric that people choose.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's all around us.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so part of it is identifying what the when those toxicities present themselves and um and turning away from them, right?
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: Handing that over to God or whatever higher power you believe in.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, you know, uh, seeing I can't help but think in that vein, having uh not too long ago seen the assassination of Charlie Kirk and these new uh these new studies now that are in the 30 percentile of Gen Z, I'm sure you've seen them, Gen Z, when they ask is violence an acceptable um an acceptable political strategy, and something like 35, 36 percent of Gen Zers are saying that violence is an acceptable um an acceptable pathway of showing your displeasure of somebody's politics.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, this is being this is being stimulated by you know calling uh calling people Nazis and Gestapo and and all this stuff.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_00: So you so you have these labels here again, the the power of labels, right?
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_00: The power of labels.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean who who among us doesn't wish somebody had taken out Hitler in 1935, you know?
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so when you use, when you label somebody, a Hitler, a Nazi, a Gestapo, um uh that it it um it it moves it moves this uh reaction to a to a vengeful to a vengeful place, like a um you know, let's let let's take out let's take our out our vengeance on them before they can hurt us, kind of thing.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: And and man, that's a you know, that's a dangerous thing.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I'm thinking the the poor guy that you know um assassinated Charlie Kirk.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, chance chances are he's got some real um uh issues, sick, you know, he he probably doesn't feel good uh a lot of times because anybody that's got that much anger and you know vengeance built up and who who can't bring themselves to even think about forgiveness, and that that's what made uh Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica, so powerful at the program.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: She stood right there at the microphone and said to the guy, Robin, what his name, Robinson or whatever his name is, um, I forgive you.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: That was a powerful, that was a powerful thing.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and so she's probably going to have a better health outcome than he is.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just bringing it out.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: But but but what's what's amazing is the the internal uh turmoil and angst that that we're seeing with these 35-36 percent of Gen Zers think that it's okay to kill somebody that that um that you disagree with.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's shocking.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's shocking, and and it shows a profound, a profound lack of forgiveness.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and I think and what you're referring to with her forgiving, I thought about it, I'm like, man, if she can forget the forgive the man who murdered her husband, what am I holding on to?
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right, that that I'm not forgiving.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yep, yep, couldn't agree more.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_01: And this, and this is one of um, you know, I know we're we're out of time, uh, but this is a good this is a good point to close on.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm hoping people get to the end of this episode so they they hear this part because um, as we've talked about in different podcasts already, just the power of forgiveness and how you can actually have spontaneous healing just from an act of forgiveness.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_01: And this is documented in the medical and scientific literature.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's how powerful it is to forgive somebody.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, which again, of course, is you know in the Bible and um you know talked about in some other cultures.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I have experienced healing from going through all these steps.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've experienced a healing of many ailments from following this roadmap, but I've also experienced spontaneous healing through an act of forgiveness and letting go.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I know from personal experience that both are possible.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_01: I do think it's more difficult oftentimes to heal through uh like spontaneous through spontaneously through forgiveness because most of us aren't taught how to forgive.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I know it's something I grappled with for a long time, but please don't overlook that.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: It it is um like scientifically proven that that forgiveness does heal.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I do want to say too, like please don't get overwhelmed.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_01: Or if you are overwhelmed, just take a breath and step back away from the roadmap because it's not designed for you to overhaul your whole life in a single day, right?
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: It is about consistently moving forward one step at a time.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_01: Even modest changes have been shown in the research to reduce inflammation in just a matter of days or a week, like swapping processed food for whole food, for example.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it is a step-by-step process.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_01: You do not want to jump into everything all at once and try to change everything all at once because the stress and overwhelm that that might bring to you can cause you to regress to get even sicker.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: So this is a stepwise process.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I've listed out this roadmap, but it doesn't mean that each trigger that I've listed is a trigger for you.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone has their own triggers.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: These are this is a map that God showed me as a tool to help people heal.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean you need to go fix every single one of these things.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_01: What I always tell people is look at the roadmap.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_01: And uh for me, uh, I pray about it beforehand and I would just ask God, can you guide me and show me where you want me to start?
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_01: Then you look at it and see what is called out for you.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_01: So one step at a time, using whatever power you believe in to guide you through it, but do not think you have to address everything.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're trying to find your biggest triggers.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh, yeah, we are we are at a time scene.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it reminds me of um of a of a thing that I uh saw lately.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_00: It said, um when you're when you're trying to, yeah, it is this is quite a laundry list, you know, of stuff.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and it can be pretty intimidating, you know, to see it all put together at one at one dump, you know, to dump the whole thing at one time.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not even the whole roadmap, Joel.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's the highlights.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't even get through.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so so uh it it does lead me though, then to think, well, you know, okay, so I've got I've got this, I've got this issue.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, how do I how do I know where to start?
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um and and I I I know that we you know we uh we move forward with you know intuition and asking God, asking yourself, but another another technique I'll just throw out there is I heard a guy say, um, probably the thing that you um that you don't want to do the most is what you need to do the most.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: That that's that's a profound intuitive thought.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this was a business discussion in your business.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, what what you're what what you're least interested in doing um is probably what you need to do most.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_00: And and I've used that a lot in seminars and things that I've done now.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_00: And boy, the room gets really, really quiet because we all know what somebody else should do.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that other guy over there.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_00: And and and we all know what we'd like to do, you know.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but to think about the one thing that I really really don't want to do is probably my week link.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so my so my question today, my question for our community is oh wait, before you do the question, can I um just give a simple takeaway in case somebody is overwhelmed of like where I would start?
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_01: So just in case, like you're overwhelmed, or in case nothing pops out at you, uh, here's a here's a simple starting point, and then you can see where you want to go from there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and this is based on statistics too.
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  SPEAKER_01: A simple starting point uh on each of the categories.
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  SPEAKER_01: So physically swap out all your food for or organic whole food.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't have to be labeled organic, it's just a farmer that practices you know uh beyond organic or organic principles.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_01: But basically, if you start by swapping out the foods, can start starting to consume whole organic food that will take out a lot of the man-made ingredients and it'll take out a lot of the chemicals on it, uh, it will lower your toxic burden.
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  SPEAKER_00: In terms of flush the Doritos.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: So whole organic foods in terms of the other categories.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll make this really simple.
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  SPEAKER_01: So imagine this you're going to you're gonna start by once a day, you're gonna go outside in the sun, preferably at sunrise or sunset to start.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be barefoot on your lawn, assuming you're not spraying your lawn.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to have a drink in your hand to hydrate you, possibly with electrolytes in it.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to either stand on that grass barefoot or sit so that you're resting, and you're gonna say things that you're grateful for, three things you're grateful for, and why.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm grateful for Joel because he challenges me mentally and keeps me on my toes, right?
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to say why.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_01: And after you say your three things that you're grateful for, you're gonna say you're gonna practice forgiveness.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Forgive somebody, even if it's just small, even if it's like, oh, that person cut me off on the freeway, you know.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Something it starts small if you need to and just let it go, hand it over, like to God or whoever, and um breathe through it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Imagine it releasing from your body.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can do the the whole organic food on the physical level, and then you can wrap up a bunch of these mental, emotional, spiritual, energetic components by doing that one routine once a day, and that's Oregon to make progress for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I like that.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_00: I like that.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's a that's a that's a doable, that's a very doable recipe.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, but but but you have you have to be intentional.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it won't happen by itself.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be intentional about it.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's another business principle.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Business principle is called the fifth 56-day um 56-day plan.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_00: And and I I don't know who discovered it, but apparently some guru discovered that if you do something for 56 days in a row, it becomes a habit.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_00: In other words, in other words, if if you want to create a new habit in your life, and you I'd like to do that, but I just haven't been able to haven't been able to make that a habit.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well, just just 56 days in a row, and and and amazing on the fit on at 57 day, you uh that that's when you don't you don't think about it anymore.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_00: It just becomes it becomes part of your your uh your day, you know, your muscle memory.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_00: And um I I I did this, I'll be very transparent.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did this uh years ago with um with my devotional Bible reading time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to do it, I just was busy.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I got farm, you got stuff to do.
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I would, sometimes I wouldn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just got so convicted about it, okay, for 56 days, and and now I don't feel like I can even start my day until it.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't even think about it.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_00: It it just, you know, it's just natural.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_00: And so um uh and so I I I do believe the 56-day thing actually does work from to create to create a a desired activity into a habit.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's it's a 56-day uh thing.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think our community question should kind of morph into if people want to accept a 56-day challenge, like you know, choose something.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, choose uh um if you want, yeah, that's a great question.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what what would you uh what will you or can you or are you going to do for 56 days to create a new habit?
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then um whenever this air this episode launches, we can check back in too, like on our Discord page, and we can ask if you accepted the challenge, what has changed for you?
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, has your life changed for the better, for the worse?
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  SPEAKER_01: What have you learned?
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, did you like it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna keep doing it?
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, for another habit.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_01: I like this.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, something positive.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have one?
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna choose to challenge yourself?
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Or are you already too busy and overwhelmed?
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, I I told you about the one that I did.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um Bible, yeah.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's um that that's probably that's probably good enough right now.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I have to think about it a little bit.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not ready to I'm not ready to um add another another thing to my life at this moment.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, it's uh but that that is that is a way, that is a way to create a habit.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_00: It sure is.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_00: It sure is.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you all for joining us for another um Beyond Labels uh podcast.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, we went over a little bit, but uh when Cena gets on a roll, it's hard to stop the it's hard to stop the snowball.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_00: So uh always we're great, we're grateful, Sina.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm grateful for you for your your in indomitable spirit in uh challenging us, inspiring us, and moving us forward.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you all for letting us um be a part of your life.
• 1:16:55
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• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, and we'll visit with you again next week.