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Hold My Peroni! · That Car Show

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  drives like a dream. Introducing the 2026 E 470
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  It's that car show back with a crew show.
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  And what don't we cover in this one?
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  What gets you waved in these days at the best cars and
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  coffees? The Leapers and the Bracarazzi
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  are apparently the new gatekeepers.
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  Plus, industry whispers. Dan rents A benzo.
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  Lindsay parks a truck. I start shopping for a new car.
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  And yes, we talked about that damn Ferrari Luche.
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  Give us a follow. And don't forget to rate, review
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  and subscribe. It's Dan, it's Lindsay, it's me
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  Ryan, and it's that car show. So welcome to this week's car
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  show, Another cruise show this week.
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  I think it's been a relatively quiet week for car stuff.
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  But Lindsay, you were down in Southern California and visiting
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  old, old haunts. Yes, a brief trip down for
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  Memorial Day and of course I had to hit Crystal Cove.
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  It was a pretty quiet weekend there car wise.
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  But even then, you know, quiet at Crystal Cove means that
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  there's a Lamborghini Diablo and a Ferrari 550 and three
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  Mclarens. There was a really cute vintage
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  Mustang in this like kind of it's not the Porsche color, but
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  it was like a lava orange, like tangerine ish, super cute.
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  I was like the ultimate beach car, a Range Rover in this most
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  brilliant blue mat that was like one of those colors that's
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  almost too bright to look at, but it was just spectacular.
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  I'm like, yes, that's my dream car right there.
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  Did you take anything fun to the the show?
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  No, I just took my truck which I do love though.
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  Just the truck, just the. Truck, do you, do you line that
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  up with the other cars or do you park around the corner?
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  Or because this is the dilemma as you roll up to an event,
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  right, you know, where do you fit in in the pecking order?
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  Well, no, I just parked because that's what's so funny about
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  Crystal Cove is like, these cars are not clumped together because
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  it's not official. People just go hang out because
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  there are not a lot of ocean view parking lots.
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  As I've said, you know, this parking lot is right on PCH, the
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  center's right on PCH. You can see the ocean.
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  And so it's just a lovely place to go and have a cup of coffee.
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  And while you're sitting there, it's a rolling car show with
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  some pretty amazing cars usually, but they're all mixed
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  in. So I just park with the rest of
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  them. But I know what you're talking
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  about because there were several times when I would go up to good
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  vibes and I was in the X3 and I'm like the soccer mom that got
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  lost and by the way, Vandalist Crest and I'm like is.
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  This such a thing? Is this such a thing as the
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  introverted car? Like even if you have something
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  pretty special, you still don't want to park it.
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  And it's not about not wanting to show it is just being very
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  introverted. Yeah, right.
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  Is that a thing? I think so.
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  It's like sleeper. Right.
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  I mean, yeah, what we call sleeper.
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  I never used to want to show my SO exotics in Redmond have have
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  got a bar and uh and mine made it over the bar but I never
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  would want to show it so I would park my Porsche around the back.
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  Umm just weird. I just didn't want to show it.
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  Well, there's something nice about kind of being able to slip
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  in and slip out too. Yeah, there's that, right?
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  Yeah. And then I think the new, uh, I
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  don't know uh, bar setters for me are the car spotters at the
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  leapers right at the entrance and exits these places.
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  I went to our friend Willis Woods very first coffee here in
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  in Denver on Saturday's big hit ton of people, some really great
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  cars. I got there a little bit late
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  because there's a lot going on that day.
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  And as I pull in, there were three or four kids at the
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  entrance with big cameras and none of them gave me a second
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  glance. And I was all proud of the GT4.
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  It was freshly cleaned thanks to spider auto detailing and all
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  this. I not for sure I get at least
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  one snap and then I got there and then I realized, yes, there
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  are multiple Mclarens. There were two four GTS.
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  You know, there was a Unimog. There was, I mean there was some
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  far more interesting. Really unique stuff.
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  Stuff. So I think if you're going to
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  roll up in a GT4, clean or not, you get there early, right when
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  they still got lots of storage space on their on their memory
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  card, right? But it was deflating.
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  I mean, it's such a wild scenario where a GT4IS
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  run-of-the-mill. Like that's passe.
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  You're like, yeah, I mean, we're in.
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  We're in a pretty great space if that's the case.
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  But you know what I realized too?
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  And it was parked again because they're all kind of scattered
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  around. There was a Carrera GT there on
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  Sunday or Monday morning. Yeah, there's a place called the
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  Shake Shack. It's been there forever.
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  And a gorgeous, like, 21 window Volkswagen bus pulled out and
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  two really cute bugs. And so we were trying to get
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  pictures of them. So I had to go a little farther
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  South, and as I went by the center, I looked over and, you
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  know, it's such a distinctive tale, like the struts for the
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  wing. I saw it and I'm like, I think
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  there's a career GT in there. Nice.
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  Yeah, that's. Nice.
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  That's pretty great. Those paparazzi kids have got a
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  nickname. Have you guys heard this?
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  Yeah, Brocarazzi. Leapers.
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  Brocarazzi or broccoli heads. Broccoli heads now.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, Tori coined
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  brocarazzi over the weekend because there were brocarazzi
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  all over the parking lot. And it is interesting because
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  they do seem to be the new gatekeepers and we should do
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  like a like bracket brackets or whatever, right?
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  Like to breakdown. What is it exactly?
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  Because I think, you know, I would argue if my car had been
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  in something like a Python green, they would have been all
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  over it, right? But I think colors part of it.
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  I think rarity is part of it. I think time of the day is part
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  of it. But I think they are the new
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  arbiters of of taste at cars and coffees everywhere.
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  There's something about, I think when you grow your hair like
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  that, and those days are long gone for me, but.
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  It gives you. It gives you a.
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  Sense an air of authority that's.
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  That's that's right. It's like, you know, carrying
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  the clipboard. Yeah, yeah, you know, so.
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  I mean, I think we're sunk if that's the case, but are they?
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  So yeah, are they called Leapers?
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  I've heard the term leapers. Have you not heard the term
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  leapers? I think that's an LA thing.
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  F spot on YouTube uses that term and he seems to know what he's
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  talking about. So I mean it's and I think
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  that's because they'll leap right in front of you right And
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  and if you hit them it's still your fault.
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  But maybe that broccoli hair will, you know, afford some
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  degree of impact protection. Crumple zone.
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  That's right. That's exactly what it looks
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  like. Broccoli crumple zone.
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  Well, I was up in Seattle last week and I rented a car and I
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  did my usual trick. I went to the rental desk and
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  said, do you have anything fun? And the gentleman went behind
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  the desk, came back and said, how about a Mercedes?
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  And I'm. Not going to.
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  Turn down the Mercedes. So this was the Cle.
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  So it's a 2 door coupe. It was the Cle 300 with some
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  sort of AMG kit. But I think it's we're way
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  beyond any engineering from AMG on that car.
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  But have you guys driven the Cle before I talk about it, I've got
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  thoughts not. Yet.
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  Spent a couple of days in both the coupe and cabrio version of
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  the of the 53, the E 53, so sort of the light AMG.
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  So the AMG but not, you know, the 63 right?
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  I thought the coupe was an OK car.
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  Nothing wowed me. I was shocked at the lack of
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  structural rigidity in the convertible.
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  It was a brand new car, you know, supplied by Mercedes-Benz,
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  and it's just it it it felt like I was in a Chrysler Sebring, You
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  know, they looked great, but it wasn't enough power to be, you
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  know, to to have me impressed with the power right with the
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  53. So it was it it just it didn't
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  do anything that that great. Maybe you'll agree with me.
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  I thought the infotainment was a little wacky.
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  I thought the steering was quite dead.
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  It just didn't do anything that great.
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  It felt like a rental car, for lack of a better term, and it
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  sounds like maybe you had the same impressions.
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  Yes. You're saying that was the Cle?
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  Was it the AMG though it? Was so yeah, so it was the the
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  what they call the the E 53. So it was the the AMG but not
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  the full AMG, right. And I think you probably had
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  what the Cle is it the three 5300 OK with maybe the AMG
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  package, the the appearance package or something.
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  So, so even you know, Lester on the on the on the totem pole, I
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  guess, but not impressed. Well, this thing I think firstly
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  I got in the car 11,000 miles on the clock and we know that
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  mileage on rental cars equates to dog miles in years, right,
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  Dog years. So times it by 7-8 or nine and
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  you get to the real 11,000 miles.
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  So we'd obviously been well driven.
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  Yeah. They overdo it, and it wasn't
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  necessarily a bad thing, but they overdo it with lighting
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  inside the cabin. Yes.
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  My God, it was like AI don't know.
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  I don't know what it was like, like a disco from the 80s or
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  something, but you've got lights everywhere.
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  Yeah, tell Roxanne to turn the lights out.
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  It was. Right.
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  Like, yeah, the Village People are sat in the back, but yes, it
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  has the the iPad screen. So so I did a bit of research to
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  see what the average age of a Mercedes owner was in North
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  America. And can you guys guess how old
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  the average Mercedes-Benz owner is in North America?
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  I bet it's a lot younger than it used to be.
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  Yeah, that's I'm going to go with 37.
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  I mean, and I would say it's very model dependent, right.
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  Something like like what you drove more of an entry level car
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  is going to be not to mention the CLA, right?
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  But compared to an S class or an SL, I'm sure is quite, I'll say
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  41. So it was 54 really.
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  And the reason, the reason I kind of did that research was,
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  you know, no matter What Car you have modeling the range, some of
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  the things are going to be the same and the technology is going
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  to be very similar as you go through the different.
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  There were no physical buttons was the first issue and I guess
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  the older you get the more you want to touch stuff and not have
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  to search for things in menus. Yeah.
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  That was, that was my first, like the user experience was
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  just shit, the sunroof to open the sunroof and it took me an
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  hour to figure this out. You don't press the button, you
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  swipe it. It's almost like you Tinder the
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  sunroof to get the sunroof open. So.
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  And it's it's not. There's no haptic feedback if I
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  recall. No, no.
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  So you're just kind of like trying to summon this thing and
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  you don't know which way it's going to go or what, what's
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  going to happen. You're just in the car going
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  open sesame. Yeah, yeah, Casting spells.
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  I, I, I even went to a point where I went into the menu
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  settings and said, turn on the hey, Mercedes and I went, hey
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  Mercedes, open the sunroof. You know, you do not have a
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  subscription. My fuck so.
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  And it was a beautiful sunny day in Seattle.
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  Are you serious? You actually encountered the
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  subscription. For the Mercedes Mercedes, I
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  guess if you buy the car they set you up with a subscription
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  right right yeah so the cabin was comfortable it you know nice
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  driving position but the technology was awful I had the
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  SAT NAV fail on me twice with car play the.
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  Price like with you mean it just wouldn't connect to car it?
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  Got stuck on a screen and it wouldn't get back to the map, so
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  that happened twice to me. Dan, that seems something that
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  doesn't happen ever in cheap cars and only ever happens in
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  expensive cars. Or am I wrong?
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  It's strange, isn't it? Yeah, it's super strange.
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  Maybe they just over and you do these things to a point where so
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  it was quite nippy as a 2 liter turbos.
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  You have to spool up the turbo. I've been reading the past, I've
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  talked about the C Class having a great chassis.
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  This didn't have a great chassis, you get a bit bigger
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  and it just handling was in fact shout out to friend of the show
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  Jeff Jones. I picked Jeff up to go and have
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  some dinner and his comment to me this rides like a Tesla.
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  So I think Mercedes have gone a long way in the wrong direction
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  when it comes to I I associate them with luxury.
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  Now I then look and this base price and I don't think it was
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  the one I drove, but maybe the one below was $59,000.
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  So are we expecting too much from a car if it's $59,000
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  versus $80,000? When the average price is 50, is
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  that the? Is that the basic now?
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  I think they're just trying to do too much at that at that
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  price point. Could be and but that's a car.
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  I mean it's on the low end for Mercedes, right, as as far as
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  on, you know, entry point and all that that you know, that's a
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  badge engineered car, I think, unfortunately, but it's it's I
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  think that's the thing with the modern Mercedes-Benz line up
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  there there. It's not, you know, the days of
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  yore where, you know, C Class just drove like a smaller E
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  Class, which drove like a smaller S class, right.
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  You just never know quite what you're going to get right.
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  And, and it just, I think a car like that is just, I don't know,
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  it just, it doesn't ooze Mercedes in, in the way that
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  even even a couple of the current models still do it.
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  Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it's like
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  so many of the manufacturers when you look at like you said,
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  I mean, and the BMW is the same. There used to be a 3A5 and A7
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  series and Mercedes used to have the E, the C and the whatever.
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  And now it's like with crossovers and SUVs and like all
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  the different, it's like smaller and smaller slices of the pie
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  and it I think it's harder to keep it consistent.
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  And I would argue that, you know, maybe the sedans and
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  coupes aren't getting the attention that the crossovers
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  and the SUVs are, right. You know, maybe they're not the
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  the big sellers anymore. But I'm so tired of being
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  disappointed in things, right, especially expensive things.
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  And I think that still qualifies as an expensive car.
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  It's certainly more than the average car, right?
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  And it's got a A3 pointed star on it.
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  I mean, there's certain expectations that that go with
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  that and and. Yeah.
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  I mean, there's definitely expectations for that brand.
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  So Dan, would you like one of my kind of tests for a new car is
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  how intuitive it is to figure things out?
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  So would you say it sounds like it was not intuitive at all,
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  especially with the sunroof issue?
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  Yeah. I mean, if it was getting a Doug
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  score, it would get a one for Yeah, I will say the stereo was
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  good on it. Like it had a Burmeister stereo
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  and you know, you look at other brands and that's a $5000
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  upgrade, right? Yeah, yeah, it's not a $5000
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  sounding system, but it's certainly better than the Bose
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  or whatever, which you know, probably would have come
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  standard with, right. Yeah, at least it's a German
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  brand. At least they're.
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  Sticking with it was a fun car to have for a few days, but
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  like, I wouldn't be buying one. Yeah, well, that's a shame.
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  It's a shame. So yeah, Ryan, you're looking
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  from the next electric car, aren't you?
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  We are, you know, as we've talked about a nauseam on this
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  show, we've got a 2024 pole star Two, we got this amazing deal
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  when they were given those, those throwing out those deals
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  like they were going out of style, especially here in in
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  Colorado. Of course, we no longer have the
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  $7500 federal tax credit. We still have some local credits
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  and that kind of thing. But there's no getting a $60,000
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  car for $230 a month in 2026, right?
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  And I think we're dead set in another EV, especially with the
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  current price of gas. I mean, how can you go wrong?
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  And we would keep this thing if we could, but they they want to
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  buy back a residual $39,000. Now we've only got 15 thousand
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  16,000 miles on the car. I still don't think it's worth
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  39,000. And the sad part is they're
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  going to take this car which doesn't have a scratch on it,
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  which has such few miles, and they're going to put it on the
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  lot for 32 or 34, but they won't sell it to me because it's
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  artificially inflated. And so that puts us in a bind,
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  you know, where do we go from here?
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  I just saw that the Volvo EX30 has been discontinued.
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  And I thought, well, maybe that would be a nice little car.
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  Then remembered how horrid the interiors were on those things
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  and there's a reason that people weren't buying it.
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  And now they're discontinued. Volvo's got the new, I think
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  it's the EX60, which is sort of the new XC60 EV, which Demiro
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  and others have said is pretty wonderful.
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  But I just don't know if there will be deals to be found on car
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  like that. You know, we could stick with
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  Polestar. Polestar 3 is a pretty good car,
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  pretty equivalent I think to the EX60, but they're really only
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  dealing on the Polestar 4. And do you guys know much about
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  the Polestar 4? No.
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  Without the back window, that's. The that's the first thing
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  everyone says, yeah, it has no back window.
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  And I'm thinking, do I really want to drive a car with no back
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  window? I mean, if you've ever driven a
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  car with a with a video rear. View rear view mirror Yeah.
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  Sometimes there's a leg or you know, it's just, it's not.
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  It's not. It's disconcerting.
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  It's. Disconcerting.
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  I, I, I think it's nauseating if you look at it too long, right?
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  It's, it's, it's sort of like, you know, riding a train
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  backward or something. It just doesn't seem quite
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  right. You know, ultimately it's going
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  to come down to price for us. I think anything is going to
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  seem more expensive than what we're paying now.
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  And so I'm open to suggestions. I think EV, yeah.
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  I don't know if I can go Hyundai or Kia.
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  I I've told other people to buy them, but you know, that's,
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  that's tough coming off a pole star, which is basically.
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  A fancy one. Well, I can't afford one of
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  those G 90s and although I am kind of sold on the the pumping
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  of perfume into the into the the cabin while you're driving, but.
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  What's not to love? Yeah, I don't know if you have
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  any ideas, Probably looking at that fifty $60,000 space for an
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  EV. Don't want anything smaller than
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  the pole *2, nothing. Probably larger than an EX60I.
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  I think they're probably some some loyalty retention type type
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  things that that poster will throw up, you know, at us when
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  it comes down to it. But we're looking at probably
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  $6800 for a very similar car to what we have now, which is quite
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  a bit more right than 2:30. But you know, those were the
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  days of free Fiat 500 ease. And those days are yeah, are
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  gone, unfortunately. And and I do think we want to
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  lease. I don't think we want to buy it
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  because I'm still nuts. The prospect of buying an
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  electric car and throwing all your all your money into the
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  into that scares me a little bit still so especially.
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  Just not there yet. Yeah.
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  Yeah, someone said the analogy. It's like buying cell phones.
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  You don't buy the cell phone. You and the technology moved
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  quite quickly. That's it, Dan.
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  Have a look at Cadillac. This was a few months ago, maybe
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  two months ago, but someone was saying there was some good deals
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  to be had on Cadillac. I don't know if they're still
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  there. My Somali my wife says she will
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  not drive a Cadillac. I would drive a Cadillac.
• 19:28
  Get a Cadillac and a new wife. Yeah, that's, that's it
• 19:33
  probably. I'm trying to save money here,
• 19:34
  Dad. You know, it's so I'm not
• 19:37
  against it. And I think ultimately, when it
• 19:39
  comes down to she's basically given, you know, trust entrusted
• 19:42
  me with the process. And I have a feeling we'll
• 19:45
  probably do. It's got these vision of Ryan
• 19:49
  get around taking all the badges off of it, Yeah.
• 19:51
  Yeah, it is a black wing, but it's electric.
• 19:53
  I swear those those engine noises are just being pumped
• 19:56
  through to the cabin. But I, I bet we come home with a
• 20:00
  another pole start or this Volvo EX60, which is, you know, it
• 20:04
  looks to be a great car. And I think it's a good middle
• 20:06
  ground for a householder. One of us is very much an
• 20:09
  enthusiast and the other is very much not.
• 20:11
  And it's a car that we share, so.
• 20:13
  And, you know, when you've already got a sports car, you
• 20:15
  know, your daily driver doesn't have to be that, right?
• 20:17
  Right. Should be respectable.
• 20:20
  Something else is not, you know, embarrassed to be.
• 20:24
  Yeah, it's cool, right, You know.
• 20:25
  The all. Order.
• 20:26
  Yeah, yeah. So suggestions.
• 20:30
  Give us a give us a shout. Leave a comment and tell us what
• 20:33
  Ryan's next car should be. Yes, yes, the funnier the
• 20:37
  better. Yeah.
• 20:39
  And don't say new Ferrari Lucci because I can't afford it.
• 20:44
  I know. Speaking of, what do you guys
• 20:47
  think? Are we going there?
• 20:49
  Yeah, let's go there because we have to go there.
• 20:51
  I've heard a rumor that Ferrari are very much monitoring all the
• 20:56
  press feedback on this car and being very selective around
• 21:00
  future invitations to press junkets based on how people
• 21:05
  react to this electric car. So I love it.
• 21:07
  I think it looks amazing. I mean I.
• 21:11
  Already ordered one. I ordered 2.
• 21:15
  I I I I will go against the grain.
• 21:22
  It isn't an unattractive car, it's just not a Ferrari.
• 21:25
  Yeah, I think that's. The car, there's not a molecule
• 21:28
  of heritage in that thing. Right.
• 21:30
  It's fine. But yeah, it's not a Ferrari.
• 21:34
  I think that's the biggest issue is that it's like nowhere in
• 21:38
  there do you look at it and see even a hint of the heritage of
• 21:42
  the brand and the design. I mean just.
• 21:45
  Question you guys. Yeah.
• 21:47
  What's the Internet being some so much uproar if they put a
• 21:51
  Dino badge on it. Oh, Dan, you know, we've been,
• 21:57
  we've been holding that Dino badge in our back pockets as a
• 21:59
  show for a couple years, right? We've threatened to pull it out
• 22:02
  before. Maybe this was this was that
• 22:04
  time. It's, you know, I, I'll, I'll
• 22:10
  argue this. What, what if it had been, what
• 22:12
  if it had looked like a Ferrari, right?
• 22:14
  I mean, we are we hung up truly on the looks or are we hung up
• 22:17
  on the EV? Because our, our friend Maurice
• 22:18
  Merrick at horsepower heritage you puts on a great podcast, had
• 22:21
  some good points. And it's, it's the EU has these,
• 22:25
  these CO2 emissions performance regulations that are just
• 22:28
  getting more and more restrictive.
• 22:30
  And by, I think by 2029, he said that fleets must reduce their
• 22:34
  emissions by 15% and five years later by a 55% reduction.
• 22:38
  And so, you know, Ferrari is an independent, you know,
• 22:41
  manufacturer, they, they have to find those numbers somewhere,
• 22:45
  right? But I look at this thing and it
• 22:48
  doesn't scream Ferrari. I look at this thing, it doesn't
• 22:51
  scream $500,000 right. And I look at this thing that
• 22:54
  doesn't scream Luche for that matter, which is Italian for,
• 22:57
  for, for light. So maybe Dino, you know, Dino
• 23:00
  was always kind of slapped on. Well, not always because there
• 23:03
  were, there were some attractive Dino's over the years, But but
• 23:06
  that was put on cars like the three-way GT4, which was
• 23:10
  probably was, was designed down right and, and, and, and maybe
• 23:13
  that that badge would have worked on this.
• 23:15
  What do you think? Maybe that would have been,
• 23:17
  yeah, a better approach. And it's, I don't have like the
• 23:21
  EV thing doesn't bother me because like you said, for a
• 23:25
  million reasons, nearly all the manufacturers, if not all of
• 23:28
  them are doing some sort of EV. So I didn't give that a second
• 23:32
  thought. It reminds me of like when Ford
• 23:36
  called the mock E, the Mustang mock E because it you know what
• 23:40
  it is, it feels disingenuous where it's like, we're not
• 23:43
  stupid. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:45
  Give us the credit of like, hey guys, we all know this doesn't
• 23:48
  look like a fiery or like we know this is not a Mustang.
• 23:51
  So do the do the public or do the enthusiasts, you know, the
• 23:56
  courtesy of like just be upfront, Just call it a Maki.
• 23:59
  Just call this. I don't know.
• 24:02
  Adino maybe? There was such condescension
• 24:05
  right from some of the the folks I think involved with the
• 24:09
  designs for this. We know better than you do and
• 24:12
  you just wait because in a couple years you'll appreciate
• 24:15
  it kind of thing. And I, I think that works for
• 24:17
  Porsche, right? I mean, you go back whenever the
• 24:20
  new 911 comes out, there's some derision right where there, you
• 24:23
  know, when the 991 came out that's too big or ever with the
• 24:26
  982 came out also too big to the tail lights in the back don't
• 24:31
  work the screens right. We got rid of the, the, the
• 24:33
  physical dials, this kind of thing.
• 24:35
  And, and, you know, in retrospect, maybe they did know
• 24:37
  what they're doing, but I just don't see that happening with,
• 24:39
  with this. And I think they're going to
• 24:40
  probably end up doing something very, very similar to what Dodge
• 24:43
  has done with the electric Challenger and Charger, where
• 24:47
  they're just going to have to have a come to Jesus and just
• 24:50
  right the ship because I, I just, I just don't see this
• 24:52
  moving forward. I think they really got caught
• 24:55
  with their pants down here. And it's, it's, it's, you know,
• 24:57
  they can't, can't move forward with what they've got.
• 25:01
  Yeah. I mean, we talked a few few
• 25:02
  weeks ago per car they make the most profit of any car company
• 25:07
  in the world, right? So they know things that they
• 25:10
  know they are doing are doing really well, right.
• 25:13
  So I wonder if, you know, this is a, we have to do this because
• 25:18
  of legal and everything else on the legislation.
• 25:22
  I'm hearing more and more strong rumors that there is a manual
• 25:26
  car coming from Ferrari. Dave, who listens to the show,
• 25:30
  sent me a message today to say the Ferrari share price is
• 25:34
  completely tanked. I've not checked it out but if
• 25:36
  it has I would suggest and we are not financial advisors.
• 25:39
  I am now. But knowing that there is a
• 25:42
  magical right? We do keep offering investment
• 25:46
  advice though, it's just like the second part time recently.
• 25:52
  Yes, so I hear that this and I've heard this for two years
• 25:56
  now. My first, first person who told
• 25:59
  me was a former head of design at an Italian design house.
• 26:04
  And I went, I went throw them over the the coals, but they
• 26:07
  said they weren't there was 1 coming.
• 26:08
  So, yeah, well. Speaking of Pin Farina, this,
• 26:14
  you know, really things started going downhill once once Ferrari
• 26:17
  got rid of pin. Yeah.
• 26:19
  And, and this is just really the, the, I think the word is
• 26:22
  nadir, right? I mean, this really is the the,
• 26:25
  the, the bottom of the of the barrel because what is Ferrari?
• 26:29
  What is Ferrari? What is a Ferrari, right?
• 26:32
  Is it one of the things you just know it when you see it or is,
• 26:35
  is, is there just this implied notion that there is the spirit
• 26:40
  of the brand baked in and I just, there's just none of that.
• 26:45
  This is, it's like you took every other electric car right
• 26:49
  and, and and sort of throw threw it all into, into a bowl and
• 26:53
  stuck in the oven and this thing came out.
• 26:55
  Nothing's terrible, but it's not a Ferrari.
• 26:58
  Well, it's not, yeah, it's not engaging.
• 26:59
  It's not remarkable. It looks very generic.
• 27:03
  I was just fact checking myself because Johnny posted about it
• 27:07
  and said it was designed by the team behind the iPhone.
• 27:11
  So with that context, it makes a little more sense that it came
• 27:14
  out looking the way it did, but it still doesn't change the fact
• 27:17
  that it's like so bland. I have a question for you both.
• 27:21
  How much will the Daytona seats be for this?
• 27:25
  Because you know they're going to offer?
• 27:28
  I mean a lot. And what a weird just, it'll be
• 27:35
  like a Mr. Potato Head when you're tacking on parts, you
• 27:37
  know, in an attempt to try to make it look more Ferrari like.
• 27:40
  And it'll just be a mess when all is said and done so well, I
• 27:43
  think. What's?
• 27:44
  Funny too is like the tail lights actually do look Ferrari,
• 27:47
  but the tail lights, it's such a weird.
• 27:50
  Like it's like they're throwing everybody a bone.
• 27:52
  Like, hey, but look at the back. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:55
  I mean, is there a market for an EV Ferrari?
• 27:57
  I think that's my bigger like puzzlement, sort of.
• 28:00
  It's like, who's going to buy it?
• 28:03
  Look at the tycoon. I think up until recently that's
• 28:06
  sold pretty well. I mean, in fact, it was in high
• 28:09
  demand. Rave about it.
• 28:10
  Yeah, no one ever said it was ugly, right?
• 28:14
  Just I wonder what other options you can get for it.
• 28:16
  Do you think you can get the hand painted stripes over the
• 28:18
  bonnet? I mean I feel like you could
• 28:21
  probably get anything for like price.
• 28:25
  Yeah. We're talking $1,000,000
• 28:27
  electric car by the time you've. I know.
• 28:32
  I mean, it feels a little bit like, oh, I'm wearing outlet
• 28:37
  designer brand stuff. It's like, are people going to
• 28:39
  buy it for the sake of being able to be like, I have a
• 28:41
  Ferrari? It's like, but do you well?
• 28:45
  They're going to have to buy it. They get the other cars.
• 28:47
  Well, that's what I'm wondering. Yeah, and maybe they'll be so
• 28:49
  heavily discounted right out of necessity.
• 28:52
  You know, they've certainly got the, the fat on the bone or what
• 28:55
  have you. But I I think we've got it all.
• 28:57
  Going to be This is Ryan's next TV.
• 29:02
  More than 7 1/2. 2000. Answered our own question.
• 29:08
  But yeah, yeah, I, I, I think, you know, if Enzo was alive to
• 29:12
  see this, you know, it's he's he's going around really quickly
• 29:16
  right now. 6 feet under somewhere in Italy, right?
• 29:18
  Yeah. That was one of the phrases.
• 29:20
  That was one of the phrases. It was something like Chris
• 29:24
  Harris's quote today, and I'm going to get it wrong, so listen
• 29:27
  to that Emergency podcast, but it was something about powered
• 29:30
  by Enzo Ferrari turning in his grave.
• 29:35
  As as usual, said more eloquently right by Mr. Chris
• 29:38
  here. Chris yeah, it's, but there were
• 29:42
  a couple of other electric car launches in the past couple of
• 29:45
  weeks. Yeah.
• 29:47
  So Mercedes had a launch. Did you guys see that?
• 29:51
  And I saw a lot of pictures and posts about it.
• 29:54
  I didn't get to go. God knows what they I didn't get
• 29:58
  an invite and I live in the town.
• 29:59
  Actually launched it but they took over the.
• 30:03
  Is it the 6th St. bridge? 6th St.
• 30:05
  Bridge, which I mean, seems to be something that people need to
• 30:07
  get places, but what do I know, yeah.
• 30:09
  And it was a whole week. It wasn't just for one night
• 30:11
  they took over. They had to get planning to take
• 30:14
  it over for the whole week, so that would have cost a fortune
• 30:19
  they. Well, and talk about a mess
• 30:21
  traffic wise, I mean you close anything in LA and it just
• 30:24
  creates havoc. So then they brought in F1
• 30:28
  drivers to. Drive F1 drivers.
• 30:33
  Yeah, they hired Blink 182 and it was funny because about 3
• 30:39
  weeks ago I saw an interview with the drummer from Blink 1H2
• 30:43
  and he said he was interviewed and he said you know, are you
• 30:45
  playing any gigs this year? And he said we're playing one.
• 30:48
  So they're only played one gig all year.
• 30:50
  And he said who are you playing for?
• 30:51
  And they said oh it's a private gig.
• 30:53
  And then like who for Mercedes so and a sidetrack.
• 30:59
  If you want to save money and do it on a budget, Mercedes check
• 31:02
  out blink 182. There is a Mexican cover band
• 31:08
  who do covers and maybe we can get inserted into this show a
• 31:11
  quick clip, but they do they do covers of songs and specifically
• 31:15
  blink 182. So check them out.
• 31:18
  But I also heard go on I. Was going to say is blink 182 is
• 31:23
  that the demographic? Obviously they've researched
• 31:26
  this. Why Blink 182 of all of all
• 31:33
  bands? I mean, what would have been a
• 31:34
  better alignment there? Or was that the right alignment?
• 31:36
  I don't know. It's.
• 31:38
  The prices, right? I personally think it's not the
• 31:42
  way to launch a car, and I'm not.
• 31:45
  I think we can list the ways that this wasn't the way to
• 31:47
  launch a car, right? Just it's a big check for one
• 31:51
  night, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 31:53
  You know, look at those guys at Zinger, right?
• 31:56
  Yeah. They went and said we want to go
• 31:58
  and get the top five lab records in North America, right?
• 32:02
  So they took their electric car and they drove it, I think, to
• 32:04
  every location and they the lab records, right?
• 32:07
  Yep. That's the way people are still
• 32:09
  talking about that two years later.
• 32:10
  Yeah, yeah, right. You know.
• 32:12
  Well, and they made a documentary about it along the
• 32:14
  way and then shared that at Car Week and it was tremendous.
• 32:19
  It's real, it's authentic, and this was just a bunch of
• 32:22
  literally smoke and mirrors, right?
• 32:24
  And notice we haven't even mentioned the car itself, right?
• 32:27
  We're talking about the event. But the car itself up until
• 32:30
  today was the ugliest car that had been released over the past
• 32:33
  seven days, right? And to see who's Ferrari?
• 32:36
  'S Who's Ferrari's biggest fan right now?
• 32:39
  Mercedes. Yeah, Ferrari, that'd help my
• 32:41
  Peroni. Good Lord, I mean, thank God for
• 32:44
  Ferrari because we had six days or whatever it was of, of our
• 32:47
  peers, automotive journalists, you know, walking a very thin
• 32:52
  line right about I've heard other terms used, but trying
• 32:58
  very hard not to disparage the car itself.
• 33:00
  I mean, it must have been a hell of a party, right?
• 33:03
  And now, of course, we see that with the Ferrari too, names that
• 33:06
  we know that we trust people on YouTube and they're they're
• 33:09
  building up things like the retracting EV charging panel gas
• 33:15
  flap thing. It's like this is what they're
• 33:17
  highlighting, right? That's what they have to talk
• 33:20
  about. Yeah, they're doing this really
• 33:21
  weird dance of not wanting to offend Mercedes or Ferrari and
• 33:25
  I, I, I get it. But where's the objectivity?
• 33:29
  Where's? I think the the Mercedes launch
• 33:32
  was like a flash in the pan as these people are going to be
• 33:35
  talking about the Ferrari launch for a while and it wasn't a
• 33:37
  special launch, it was just a special car.
• 33:40
  And if you're listening Ferrari, I think it looks great.
• 33:43
  That's right. And the last name is PIL for the
• 33:48
  future. That's, that's, that's right.
• 33:50
  That's right. You know how like, you know,
• 33:52
  when the federal government like releases like bad news about the
• 33:55
  economy, it's always over like the holiday weekend, right?
• 33:58
  This is exactly what Ferrari did.
• 33:59
  And I think that tells you everything you need to know.
• 34:02
  But yeah, I mean, when you talk about like the engagement,
• 34:06
  people talked about the Mercedes for a bit, like talked about the
• 34:08
  event kind of in the next the days, couple days following the
• 34:11
  event. But so far Ferrari has
• 34:14
  definitely created engagement and discussion.
• 34:17
  But it's kind of like what was it a year and a half ago, the
• 34:22
  Jaguar redesign? I mean, look at the look at the
• 34:25
  engagement and discourse that was generated by that.
• 34:30
  But I think the difference. Is Jaguar is going to be, I
• 34:33
  don't know, half the price of is that now a beautiful car?
• 34:37
  Which one? The Mercedes.
• 34:39
  The Jaguar, Jaguar. Sorry, Jaguar, Jaguar.
• 34:45
  It's a good question, Dan. It's all relative, isn't it?
• 34:48
  It's all relative. Well, I mean, yeah, it's like
• 34:51
  you don't go out to the club with all your good looking
• 34:53
  friends. Do you go with your ugly friends
• 34:55
  so you look like the good looking one?
• 34:59
  This is the Pilling Club strategy we're finding out.
• 35:03
  Yes, yes. And that is our.
• 35:04
  I mean, I don't think it changes.
• 35:06
  It doesn't change how I think the car looks, but it definitely
• 35:12
  changes sort of like where it is in value.
• 35:18
  Yeah, and like consideration, I guess, because if it's if it
• 35:22
  looks a certain way and you feel a certain way about how it looks
• 35:25
  and the prices in the stratosphere, then you're like,
• 35:27
  well, I don't even need to think about it.
• 35:28
  But if it's in a more affordable range, then does it make you
• 35:34
  reconsider? Like, OK, well would I drive it
• 35:37
  for, you know, like the conversation starter Ness of it
• 35:42
  if it was more affordable, because it would definitely like
• 35:46
  generate engagement, you people would talk to you.
• 35:48
  What? Do you think right?
• 35:51
  I don't even know anymore what's up is down.
• 35:54
  What's right is wrong, you know. Slowly so.
• 35:59
  That's Ferrari is sacred, I think in a way that you know, is
• 36:02
  unique right to a brand. And this was this was really
• 36:07
  sacrilege. I, I, you know, it just, I this,
• 36:11
  this was kind of the last, the last sacred brand, right?
• 36:15
  And. Definitely the high watermark
• 36:18
  for sure. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:19
  And and and but. I mean, I in, I think we're
• 36:22
  seeing this actually with a lot of kind of the heritage brands.
• 36:26
  I mean, again, look at Jaguar tried to do this and is, it is,
• 36:33
  do they know something that we don't in terms of like times are
• 36:37
  changing, the market's changing, what people want is changing.
• 36:40
  And so they're feeling like they have to do this drastic, like,
• 36:45
  you know, redesign to stay relevant for the current car
• 36:48
  buyer. Like is that part of it?
• 36:52
  I think there are car companies that have got it right.
• 36:54
  So you look at Renault, Renault have done an electric Renault 5
• 36:59
  and everyone loves it, right? It plays on history of the car
• 37:03
  brand. You know, it's a familiar
• 37:05
  looking but modern technical, technological device.
• 37:09
  So I think some companies get it right.
• 37:14
  And some don't. And Ferrari in that group.
• 37:18
  Let's move us away from electric via hybrid, shall we?
• 37:22
  Will slowly go off of electric. We'll quietly like, feel like
• 37:28
  we're getting raptured and move on to a new topic.
• 37:30
  Yeah, because I think we've been this one to death.
• 37:34
  Audi have just released a new advertising campaign for the
• 37:38
  hybrids. I think it's the RS5 and they
• 37:44
  have stolen all my ideas. Again.
• 37:48
  That's how you know they're good.
• 37:50
  It's June, July 20/21/2021. Four years ago, five years ago,
• 37:54
  five years ago, I got to test drive one of the early tie cans
• 38:00
  and I got to write an article on him.
• 38:03
  And this is way before the film as well.
• 38:06
  But what I did is I took the example of Bob Dylan.
• 38:10
  So if you're not familiar, Bob Dylan was very famous because in
• 38:15
  one one occasion he went to a music festival and instead of
• 38:22
  playing folk, as the history of the festival was, he plugged in
• 38:25
  an electric guitar. Half the group, half the
• 38:28
  audience loved it. Half the audience were an
• 38:30
  uproar. But I compared that moment in
• 38:34
  musical history to the coming of age of electric cars with the
• 38:39
  Porsche Taycam. Well obviously Audi have got a
• 38:41
  lot more budget than I had, so they've just released a video on
• 38:44
  very similar line. Right.
• 38:48
  Can you believe it? Can I see them?
• 38:50
  Like what can I do? You know they can at least, you
• 38:52
  know, throw a new car your way, right?
• 38:55
  Right, right. It's, it's a great commercial,
• 38:59
  right? I think a borrowed idea, but you
• 39:02
  know. Stolen.
• 39:02
  Genius. Stolen.
• 39:04
  Stolen. I mean, it's it's there.
• 39:05
  It is. It's in a magazine with the
• 39:06
  print date. I mean, it's exhibit A, right?
• 39:09
  Yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, what are they?
• 39:11
  What's the argument? You know when when certain
• 39:15
  musicians, they will sample prior songs.
• 39:18
  Howdy was heavily, heavily sampling Dad's article.
• 39:21
  Yeah, yeah, It's like Vanilla Ice Audi of Vanilla Ice.
• 39:27
  I was. Going to say the Sugar Hill
• 39:29
  Gang, but I guess that shows the difference in ages for us so.
• 39:32
  Well, who was that? Wasn't there an issue with?
• 39:35
  Wasn't Robin Thicke and like Marvin Gaye's family a few years
• 39:39
  ago, wasn't that what it was and they were saying?
• 39:40
  That wasn't even a sample. No, just the same song, but.
• 39:44
  That was the ultimate decision was this does not qualify as
• 39:47
  sampling. Yeah, yeah, it's, I don't know,
• 39:51
  maybe to bring this back to our, you know what we were talking
• 39:53
  about just before this, maybe it's kind of maybe we've run out
• 39:55
  of ideas, right? There are only so many notes on
• 39:57
  a musical scale, right? Yeah, only so many combinations,
• 40:00
  right? You can you can put them in and
• 40:02
  and maybe we just. I don't know.
• 40:05
  We need a new drug. We needn't, you know, we need a
• 40:07
  refresh, a clean. I guarantee you Audi, I
• 40:10
  guarantee you Audi watched the film a complete unknown.
• 40:14
  And the advertising agency, that's where they got the idea
• 40:16
  from. So in essence, the movie copied
• 40:19
  me as well. I'm straight.
• 40:23
  Also, he loves Ferrari. You have really great ideas.
• 40:26
  That's right, I do. And I'm available for
• 40:29
  consultation. So that we've established now
• 40:32
  I'm very good at customer service.
• 40:34
  So if you're an automotive dealer, but also if you want
• 40:36
  ideas around advertising new cars, just call on that car
• 40:39
  show. So Stalantis have agreed and
• 40:45
  signed a memorandum of understanding with Jaguar Land
• 40:50
  Rover. Like, is that one of the best
• 40:53
  collaborations in the world to happen, or one of the worst?
• 40:57
  It's wild, like I'm and because we have so little information,
• 41:01
  they said they're going to share product and technology
• 41:04
  information. But I'm like, So what does that
• 41:07
  mean? I'm I'm so curious because it's
• 41:10
  such an interesting pairing. Every stalantis slash Chrysler
• 41:15
  slash, what is a Daimler right, You know, mash up in the past
• 41:20
  has has been awful, right. So I, I don't have high hopes
• 41:25
  for any sort of partnership here.
• 41:27
  It was Myron Vernus right when he was talking about a few
• 41:30
  shows, back when he was talking about the, the brilliant Greek
• 41:33
  engineering, you know, added to the, the British, what was, I
• 41:38
  can't remember what did. He have that unique car that he
• 41:41
  has. Relyon.
• 41:42
  Maybe it was, but they made one in, in, in Greece, right?
• 41:45
  So I mean, if, if the one built in the UK wasn't bad enough, get
• 41:48
  the one built in Greece, right. It's that same thing though. 2
• 41:51
  wrongs don't make a right, you know, and, and I I'm wondering
• 41:54
  if that's where this is headed so.
• 41:57
  Well, I mean, I think we like both of them separately.
• 42:00
  I just, I'm, I'm fascinated to see this unfold because I'm
• 42:04
  just, I'm really curious what the hope is and what the intent
• 42:08
  is. You know, I'm like, does this
• 42:10
  mean we're going to get like a Range Rover Pacifica and then,
• 42:13
  you know, Angela's death highway will just be the happiest, you
• 42:16
  know, person around? It's weird though, because
• 42:19
  you've got at one point you've got Jaguar Land Rover who do a
• 42:23
  premium product. Right.
• 42:25
  Stalantis when they do a premium product it doesn't sell.
• 42:29
  Look at the Wagoneer. Right.
• 42:32
  So, OK, so that doesn't work. Stalantis have said they're
• 42:36
  going to make probably four or five new cars under 40,000.
• 42:41
  I can't see that working with Jaguar Land Rover and their
• 42:44
  branding. The only thing I can hope for is
• 42:48
  that they take some of the ideas from the Jeep and they make a
• 42:52
  Defender pickup truck. How cool would that be?
• 42:55
  Oh yeah, I could see that being a good marriage, partnership,
• 43:00
  whatever. Like there's definitely
• 43:02
  potential there. I.
• 43:04
  Just want to know what the objective is, right?
• 43:06
  I think for any venture, there should be an objective clearly
• 43:09
  stated, right? And everything you do should be
• 43:11
  done toward that goal. And, and I'm just not quite sure
• 43:14
  what that goal is yet. And it's Jaguar Land Rover.
• 43:18
  I thought it was just Jaguar. Now Jaguar, Jaguar Land Rover I
• 43:21
  think, has a little more to offer.
• 43:25
  I wonder. Go on, Lindsay.
• 43:27
  No, I mean, I think it's, I mean, I have to think it's
• 43:30
  economic where they think they can kind of share, you know,
• 43:33
  like develop something and share it across more of the vehicles.
• 43:36
  But it's weird like they're, they have such different
• 43:40
  objectives as companies like you were saying, Dan like 1 is a
• 43:42
  premium brand. One is the bulk of the cars are
• 43:46
  not thought of as premium necessarily.
• 43:48
  So it's it's a curious pair for sure.
• 43:52
  I wonder if they're going to let Land Rover build in a factory in
• 43:57
  the US because that way you would get rent.
• 44:02
  Well, yeah, Dan, I mean, you look at BMW, you look at
• 44:05
  Mercedes, What are the cars that you build in the States?
• 44:07
  It's their SUVs, right? Yeah, smart guy Dan.
• 44:11
  Interesting. Yeah.
• 44:13
  An excellent point, Yeah. And he's available, ladies and
• 44:16
  gentlemen, that's. Right.
• 44:17
  That's right. So bring a trailer.
• 44:21
  Have just posted a car that I can't believe they're allowed to
• 44:24
  sell. Well, and it already sold.
• 44:27
  Did it sell? OK so shout out to Victoria who
• 44:29
  shared this with me. This was a Aston Martin DB9, so
• 44:35
  we're definitely out of electric woods right now.
• 44:37
  It had a Corvette LS3V8 swap and it had gone to Q town to be to
• 44:45
  be modified in a James Bond style.
• 44:48
  So, Lindsay, what did it sell for?
• 44:50
  So it's sold for and I love this so much.
• 44:52
  It's so silly but I love it. 57,000 and $7.00 SO 57, Double O
• 44:58
  7. That's brilliant, That's
• 45:01
  brilliant. I love it.
• 45:02
  I mean, I'm kind of disappointed.
• 45:04
  I I would really enjoy a car that shoots flames out the
• 45:07
  front. Yeah, flames out the front.
• 45:09
  Yeah, it's, yeah. It just been taken to town to
• 45:16
  Yeah, that's one way to deal with LA traffic.
• 45:19
  Yeah, just flamethrower people out of your way.
• 45:24
  Yeah. Well, congratulations to the new
• 45:27
  buyer. Congratulations on making a very
• 45:30
  good bid. Yes, that's that's very.
• 45:33
  Smart. Please reach out as we would all
• 45:35
  love to experience the car in person.
• 45:37
  That's right, Ford are doing more collaborations on the
• 45:41
  Bronco front, is that right? Yeah, they're, so they're doing
• 45:44
  the F-250 and up I think with Carhartt.
• 45:48
  And then now they've announced that they're going to be doing a
• 45:49
  Bronco with Filson, which Dan and I are familiar with because
• 45:53
  it's a an outfitter based in Seattle.
• 45:57
  And other than they've announced that they're doing a Bronco with
• 46:00
  Filson, there are no details yet, but the launch is June 3rd.
• 46:03
  So we will know soon enough. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:06
  And in the summer that that head office is a place for cars and
• 46:09
  coffee, right? Yeah, it's a good place to go
• 46:12
  And. And they're car people and it's
• 46:14
  great. So I.
• 46:15
  Like this partnership? Yeah, it makes a lot more sense.
• 46:20
  Yeah, I, I, I know the brand name, but I don't know the brand
• 46:23
  that well. It would it what?
• 46:24
  Is there a signature piece Filson is known for, like is?
• 46:28
  I mean, I think they make like premier outdoor like out or
• 46:32
  they're a an outdoor outfitter, but I think it should be cool
• 46:35
  and. Gear stuff, yeah, OK, I think.
• 46:39
  I wouldn't end up. Wearing anything but.
• 46:43
  Shut your mouth, you know, but I feel like the Bronco is is, you
• 46:47
  know, it's long in the tooth. You know enough now, right?
• 46:50
  Where maybe it needs a little injection right of of of cool.
• 46:53
  And maybe Filson is here with the syringe.
• 46:55
  That's right, it's. A bad image.
• 46:57
  No, that's great. Last weekend the Internet broke,
• 47:02
  we came to Cars and Coffees because I don't know if it's a
• 47:07
  new owner but someone took a road legal McLaren F1 longtail
• 47:12
  to a Cars and Coffee at IKEA. Did you guys see this?
• 47:15
  It did. I saw that you shared, do you
• 47:18
  know where? Them.
• 47:20
  I know where was this cars and coffee?
• 47:22
  Do I mean obviously IKEA, but do we know what?
• 47:25
  City, I'll tell you in a second, so it says cars and Coffee
• 47:32
  doesn't say the location. Yeah, they definitely won cars
• 47:36
  and coffee that day for sure. Right.
• 47:38
  It's like, how'd you beat that? And I saw the sister car to that
• 47:42
  a few weeks ago, so I guess you can talk about it.
• 47:45
  So a few weeks ago when I went to BMW, when we did some filming
• 47:49
  in South Carolina, we filmed the McLaren F1 long tail race car.
• 47:56
  So there'll be a video coming out on that soon on the Peterson
• 47:58
  Channel. Nice.
• 48:01
  Yeah, exactly the same branding I believe to the Finner fuel.
• 48:05
  Very. Cool, yeah.
• 48:08
  Yeah, it's it makes the cars and coffees we go to look a bit
• 48:11
  bland, isn't it? Yeah.
• 48:15
  Yeah, yeah, definitely blows the Carrier GT out of the water,
• 48:18
  right. Yeah, GT 4, right?
• 48:23
  Yeah. What have we got coming up?
• 48:24
  Have we got much coming up? I think hopefully just more
• 48:27
  driving now that the weather is getting better kind of.
• 48:30
  I mean I say that as it was like pouring rain this morning here.
• 48:33
  But hopefully in general the driving weather is going to be
• 48:37
  more and more consistent. So just getting out and driving
• 48:40
  all the cars hopefully. How about you guys?
• 48:43
  I'm off in the morning to three days of driving with a couple
• 48:46
  car buddies. We are headed to Aspen and
• 48:50
  environs and it's about the only time of year I can afford to
• 48:53
  stay in Aspen. The mud seasons.
• 48:55
  Yes. So.
• 48:56
  Yeah, you got to go in the offseason.
• 48:58
  That's right. That's right.
• 48:59
  It's still expensive, but it's better.
• 49:02
  No, looking forward to it. I think the the fleet is is my
• 49:06
  GT4. We've got a Ruby Star Spider Rs
• 49:10
  and then some sort of very heavily modified C8 Corvette
• 49:14
  that I'm sure will take us in the straights, but we'll choke
• 49:16
  in the corners. So I'm looking forward to it and
• 49:21
  I, I'm sure I'll have plenty to talk about when we when we get
• 49:24
  back. There's always some good car
• 49:25
  spotting in Aspen too, so. That's awesome.
• 49:28
  I want to give you guys a list of cars that I'm going to see
• 49:32
  this weekend and I am going to say it is a who's who list of
• 49:38
  cars. I'm going to be heading out to
• 49:41
  Sonoma Raceway Velocity Invitational.
• 49:46
  So a big shout out to Ally and the team who are kind of going
• 49:48
  to host me this weekend. Are you ready for this list of
• 49:52
  cars? Like, I'm not sure I believe it
• 49:54
  until I see them. OK.
• 49:56
  I mean, we're sitting down. Yeah, and listening comfortably.
• 50:00
  McLaren F1 chassis #42 McLaren F1 HDK chassis #18 McLaren F1
• 50:08
  GTR LT23R Gordon Murray T 50 Gordon Murray T 50 Gordon Murray
• 50:15
  T 50 Gordon Murray T 50 Gordon Murray T50 And guess what?
• 50:19
  Gordon Murray T50 McLaren Solace GT McLaren P1 McLaren P1 HDK
• 50:27
  I'll make this brief McLaren Senna McLaren Senna La Ferrari A
• 50:32
  Potter La Ferrari Coupe Enzo Ferrari F-40 Daytona SP3 Daytona
• 50:37
  SP3 Daytona SP3 Portion I'm an 8 portion.
• 50:40
  I'm an 8 portion. I'm an 8 Koenigsegg Gekko
• 50:43
  Absolute Koenigsegg Aguera Rs, Aston Martin Valhalla, Aston
• 50:50
  Martin Valhalla Bagani Hawaii, BC Lamborghini Sesto Elemento, A
• 50:58
  Mercedes-Benz SLR Stern Mass Edition, A few Ford GTS and then
• 51:05
  three roofs and 300 other cars. So, So what you're saying is all
• 51:10
  these people went to the enterprise con and they said do
• 51:12
  you have anything fun? That's right.
• 51:15
  That's right. And.
• 51:16
  That's. Amazing available.
• 51:18
  Yeah. That is awesome.
• 51:20
  Well, I can't wait to hear about.
• 51:21
  It Yeah, you have some stories. Yeah.
• 51:23
  Just be careful when you park, huh?
• 51:25
  Brian, it's yeah, it should be. Should be a fun weekend.
• 51:31
  Have you been to Velocity before, Dan?
• 51:33
  I have not. Have you been?
• 51:35
  I haven't and I keep hearing from people that have gone that
• 51:37
  it's like just the bee's knees. So I'm I'm very jealous that you
• 51:41
  get to go and I want to hear about it So but I don't think
• 51:43
  you're going to have an amazing time.
• 51:44
  I've heard it's like a top notch event.
• 51:48
  Is Jorge joining you from tormenting Tarmac?
• 51:50
  He's not, so he went a couple of years ago, didn't.
• 51:52
  He. And he got to interview Jensen
• 51:55
  Button. That's right.
• 51:55
  So check out for his podcast for that.
• 51:58
  He got to interview. I think he spent some time with
• 52:00
  the Dirtfish folks. Yeah, he had Josie on there, I
• 52:04
  think. Yeah.
• 52:05
  So yeah, had. A fun interview with Zach
• 52:08
  Klatman last week too, which is definitely.
• 52:10
  Worth it. He's on fire.
• 52:11
  Isn't he out as well? He is.
• 52:13
  Yeah, that boy's phone book is kind of popping up now.
• 52:16
  There's. None of him.
• 52:18
  Yeah, son, he is, you know, a podcast son.
• 52:24
  So you've got Steve and his mum, you've got, oh, his artificial
• 52:30
  dad just. For podcasting.
• 52:34
  I'm old enough to be his dad. That's anyway too.
• 52:39
  Honey, that's do we need to give anyone else a shout out before
• 52:44
  we finish up tonight. I'm sure we do, but I'll think
• 52:49
  of it later. Yeah, insert names here.
• 52:52
  Can we can we give a plug to the 150 years of Mercedes-Benz
• 52:57
  exhibition? 100 years?
• 52:59
  I'm sorry I'm. So the Peterson Museum has just
• 53:03
  opened up 100 years celebration. It's called a world class.
• 53:08
  OK. And that's a play on words
• 53:10
  because obviously all the Mercedes have a certain class, S
• 53:13
  Class A class, right? Clever.
• 53:16
  So obviously the the company is older than 100 years, but when
• 53:20
  Mercedes and Benz got together, that was 100 years ago.
• 53:23
  I see. OK, well that's where my
• 53:25
  confusion came in. But yeah, that's cool.
• 53:28
  It looks amazing, Yeah. There's a race car in there
• 53:31
  worth $70 million. There are two 2 not one, but 2
• 53:37
  Pebble Beach winners. Nice.
• 53:40
  There is Walt Disney's last car. Oh.
• 53:43
  That's cool. And I won't give to any others
• 53:45
  away because, but if you're in LA, actually there's a few right
• 53:50
  now. So if you're in LA and you want
• 53:51
  to go see that, see that there is also a very limited edition
• 53:55
  BMW in the Peterson as well right now.
• 53:59
  So last weekend BMW launched in person a new M3 CS manual and
• 54:09
  it's got some stupid German names so.
• 54:11
  It's key to pronounce it for us, but.
• 54:14
  Yeah, it's called hand Shafter or something like that.
• 54:17
  You know it's a good time. But this is a role reversal
• 54:20
  because historically, you know, the Europeans and the Brits get
• 54:24
  the the best M cars and the best BMWs.
• 54:27
  You know, the M3 CS wagon Touring is available there, but
• 54:33
  not here. So this is a bit of a love
• 54:36
  letter for the end of that model.
• 54:38
  And they've done a lightweight so it's slightly lighter,
• 54:41
  slightly less horsepower. Rear wheel drive only manual M3
• 54:45
  CS. And it's only coming to North
• 54:47
  America, right? The manual.
• 54:49
  Yes. And there's going to be less
• 54:50
  than one per dealership, which is pretty cool.
• 54:54
  It's going to be limited. It's not limited production, but
• 54:56
  there are limited run and I think for a month it's going to
• 55:00
  be on display in the museum. So go check it out.
• 55:04
  That's awesome they're taking the What were you saying?
• 55:07
  Ferrari builds 2 less cars than they know they have demand for.
• 55:10
  Right, right. That ethos.
• 55:12
  Yeah. And I was talking to someone who
• 55:14
  actually was that car who was, but was actually there when they
• 55:17
  said that. Really.
• 55:20
  It was in Monterey. It was Luca de Montezemelo in
• 55:24
  Monterey, and he said it in public.
• 55:26
  I mean, it's probably not the first and last time he said it,
• 55:28
  but it was the same time period where he announced it.
• 55:31
  I wish I could remember. Let me know who that was.
• 55:33
  Takes me. That was you.
• 55:36
  The source Reveal yourself. Yeah.
• 55:39
  By the way, do you know how many people have been hitting me up
• 55:41
  for the true identity of Angela's Death Highway lately?
• 55:45
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 55:46
  I don't think any of us know. So stop asking.
• 55:48
  But thank. You you protest too much, right?
• 55:55
  What caught me by surprise and it makes perfect sense.
• 55:57
  I just because they've kept their identity a secret and you
• 56:02
  know, you can reach them through the Instagram account.
• 56:05
  I wasn't expecting the people that were assuming we knew
• 56:07
  because we had had them on the show, because I had people say
• 56:10
  like, well, how did you book them if you don't know who it
• 56:12
  is, which is a reasonable question.
• 56:14
  Burner phones and voice disguisers.
• 56:16
  I mean, that's how we roll. He was very.
• 56:19
  Quick, wasn't he to get the parody video?
• 56:21
  Ferrari parody. Video out what I was getting at
• 56:24
  yeah and I mean. Borically, I can tell you it's
• 56:26
  not me. Ferrari please, please.
• 56:28
  It's not me. And again, that last name
• 56:30
  spelling is. Yes, yes, absolutely.
• 56:33
  Look, look very good on a gust placard around his neck.
• 56:37
  So. That's right, yes.
• 56:38
  Media credentials please, Ferrari.
• 56:41
  He's been killing it with his videos lately though, because
• 56:43
  they've been just so timely. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:47
  I mean, again, it's like commentary because I'm like, I
• 56:49
  go watch those and I'm like, all right, that's what happened, you
• 56:52
  know? Just keeps getting sharper.
• 56:54
  Yeah, exactly. I don't know, but it's it's been
• 56:58
  fun hearing people's guesses of who they think it is.
• 57:00
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we haven't mentioned mustard
• 57:03
  once this whole show. So we did well, didn't we?
• 57:06
  We're in custody. We almost made it, yeah.
• 57:10
  The feud continues there, though.
• 57:12
  And it's great to be a spectator, isn't it?
• 57:15
  I mean it's my favorite car drama at the moment.
• 57:20
  He is piping hot, probably saying that wrong.
• 57:25
  Is that a show? I guess that's a show.
• 57:27
  Think it is. Well, thank you for listening.
• 57:31
  As always, big thank you to our sponsors.
• 57:35
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• 57:37
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• 57:41
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• 57:43
  Well, on that note, remember always be driving where that car
• 57:47
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