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Bucky on Offseason Phases and Coach Expectations | Huddle Up: Wednesday, May 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Fields Auto Group proudly presents Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, John Oser and NFL Network analyst and former
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Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jackwars.
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Speaker 3: His as potent as we can going into the regular season.
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now.
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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. It is Wednesday, May seventeenth.
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Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks and Jaguars
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Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts. And here we go.
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Speaker 3: It's the final week of phase number two of the
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Speaker 3: offseason program, the Rookie Mini Campus. In the rearview, the
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Speaker 3: schedule is out.
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Speaker 2: It's mid May.
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Speaker 3: John, the calendar keeps on turning, and the NFL calendar
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Speaker 3: certainly is nearly year round.
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Speaker 4: Now we have four weeks. Ota is coming up and
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Speaker 4: I can't wait. It's it's gonna be awesome. And as
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Speaker 4: much as that kid about ot as, the next four
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Speaker 4: weeks are the meat of the offseason program. I don't
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Speaker 4: know if Doug will have veterans in on the on
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Speaker 4: the May, on the June mini camp at the end.
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Speaker 4: My sense is if if all goes well, he won't
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Speaker 4: and it'll be more of a rookie reset.
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Speaker 5: But we'll see.
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Speaker 4: And we got four weeks and I think what those
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Speaker 4: three are open and three OTAs are open, So we
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Speaker 4: got there six times and we'll glean what we can
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Speaker 4: Bucky yah know.
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Speaker 6: And the one thing about like the mini camps and
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Speaker 6: we kid, but the mini camps are an orientation for players,
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Speaker 6: for the rookies, for the new players to the team,
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Speaker 6: to kind of get up to speed in terms of
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Speaker 6: like how Doug Peterson and the Jaguars get down when
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Speaker 6: it comes to practice, what the expectations are, the flow
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Speaker 6: to and from in and out of practice, what the
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Speaker 6: expectations are with drills, while also learning the schemes and
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Speaker 6: tactics on both sides of the ball. When you bring
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Speaker 6: the veterans back, it ups to Andy a little bit.
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Speaker 6: It raises the level of intensity.
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Speaker 7: It should raise the level of execution because you have
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Speaker 7: guys that are very comfortable in the system and so
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Speaker 7: what you're looking for from the outside end, it's practice,
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Speaker 7: but this should be a certain feel to it.
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Speaker 6: Offensively, the balls shouldn't hit the ground when you're throwing
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Speaker 6: the ball all over the yard. It should be rare
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Speaker 6: that Trevor has incompletions better yet even interceptions. Because the
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Speaker 6: execution should be at an even higher level than we
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Speaker 6: saw last year. You would like to see the team
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Speaker 6: kind of pick up where it left off at the
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Speaker 6: end of the year, following like a couple of playoff games.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, make no mistake, I don't discount their importance to
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Speaker 4: the players involved. I discount their importance to me and JP.
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Speaker 4: I'm all about me.
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Speaker 3: It's all about John. If you didn't know, you're gonna
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Speaker 3: find out well.
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Speaker 4: And I absolutely agree with Bucky in OTA's this this month. Offensively,
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Speaker 4: particularly on days where Christian Kirk, Zay Jones, Ridley, where
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Speaker 4: they're all there, you do expect to see a lot
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Speaker 4: of days where they look like a fine tune machine,
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Speaker 4: and that is what you look for on any specific day,
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Speaker 4: or you worried if there's a pick, if they're trying
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Speaker 4: something New My think with OTA's is always that's the
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Speaker 4: time where teams should be going through their rough drafts
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Speaker 4: a little bit and trying to figure out what's working
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Speaker 4: and not. So to get all upset if Trevor throws
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Speaker 4: two picks.
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Speaker 5: Hold the phone a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I had one question this week in the ozone. Hey,
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Speaker 4: I hear Kevin Austin looked I'm not knocking Kevin Austin.
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Speaker 4: I'm just out of a name. I hear Kevin Austin
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Speaker 4: and the two receivers looked great this weekend. Do you
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Speaker 4: think they'll make the team and one of them pushes
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Speaker 4: a Jones? No, I don't think anyonere gonna push the
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Speaker 4: A Jones, certainly not based on a rookie minicamp.
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Speaker 2: So that's my.
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Speaker 3: Push to be involved in the practice squad and maybe
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Speaker 3: contribute somehow.
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Speaker 2: But right, but they're not pushing the Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Let's just remember what this is and they're not going
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Speaker 4: to push his A Jones If if they caught a
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Speaker 4: touchdown pass from Nathan Rohard.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's not going to be that part of it.
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Speaker 6: I would think that the veterans would get a lot
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Speaker 6: of reps early. They kind of Taylor it back unless
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Speaker 6: some of the young guys get up to speed. I
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Speaker 6: think we can confidently say those first four guys we're
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Speaker 6: talking about, Kirk Ingram, Ridley, Jones, those guys are going
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Speaker 6: to be there, So we already kind of know what
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Speaker 6: the A group is. Now, what you're doing trying to
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Speaker 6: do is you're trying to find how does Jamal Agnew
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Speaker 6: fit into the mix in terms of are there special
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Speaker 6: plays for him that you can utilize? The change the
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Speaker 6: rotation Dennis, what does the rookie tied end look like
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Speaker 6: if we put them on the same field with Evan Ingram,
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Speaker 6: Are we able to maybe look at some different packages
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Speaker 6: with two tight ends on the field, two wide receivers,
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Speaker 6: that stuff. And so there'll be some experimentation to see
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Speaker 6: how wild Doug Peterson can get with the personnel groupings based.
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Speaker 2: On what people display during camp.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, when Trevor Lawrence is there is ay, let's
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Speaker 6: get the A team right. Make sure the A team
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Speaker 6: is on point, everyone understands everything, And really a lot
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Speaker 6: of it would be for Calvin Ridley making sure that
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Speaker 6: he is on the same page with the veterans. Make
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Speaker 6: sure those guys are good, get them off the field
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Speaker 6: and get the young guys up the snuff when it
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Speaker 6: comes to learning to playbook.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's coming up next week. Three OTAs will
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Speaker 3: be open to the media. That's number one on Monday,
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Speaker 3: number four on Tuesday, May thirtieth, number seven on Monday,
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Speaker 3: June fifth, and then of course the mandatory mini camp
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Speaker 3: as well. Now back to rookie mini camp, it's in
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Speaker 3: the books from Friday and Saturday. Anton Harrison, the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: first round draft pick, the tackle on the difference in
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Speaker 3: intensity even in a rookie camp setting.
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Speaker 8: It's definitely different. I say, it's more intense. You've got
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Speaker 8: it's a better higher level skill with a defense and
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Speaker 8: offense to higher just IQ everybody out there. So it's
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Speaker 8: definitely a higher intensity.
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Speaker 6: But I say, it's great to be out here, finally
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Speaker 6: back on the field, learning from the coaches and the
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Speaker 6: older guys.
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Speaker 8: So it's definitely good to be out here.
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Speaker 3: So he was mentioning dealing with the offensive line coach
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Speaker 3: and Phil Rauscher and the coaching stead. Just a different
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Speaker 3: field first time out there. So you know it will take,
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Speaker 3: as you said, Bucky, a step up a little bit
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Speaker 3: when the veterans are out there, with him. That changes
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Speaker 3: the whole dynamic when you're you're rolling out there with
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Speaker 3: the ten twelve guys that are on the roster right
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Speaker 3: now on the offensive line.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, For the young guys, a lot of it is
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Speaker 6: learning how to practice, meaning learning how to go fast
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Speaker 6: but play under control where you don't hit the ground
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Speaker 6: so you can avoid the injuries. And so a lot
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Speaker 6: of that is you hear the coach is always talking about, hey,
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Speaker 6: stay up, stay up, don't hit the ground.
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, good players don't find themselves all on the ground.
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Speaker 6: They have body control. They avoid those unnecessary collisions. Because
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Speaker 6: the number one objective of this off seasons make sure
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Speaker 6: you get everybody out of it healthy. And then as
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Speaker 6: you're teaching them the pace and the urgency, you want
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Speaker 6: them to do that while being under control where they
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Speaker 6: take care of one another. And so for young guys
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Speaker 6: sometimes it can be hard, particularly for some of the
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Speaker 6: late round draft picks and the undrafted guys that are
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Speaker 6: really trying to.
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Speaker 2: Make a favorable impression.
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Speaker 6: You want those guys to play hard and give everything,
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Speaker 6: but you certainly don't want them to crash into one
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Speaker 6: of your more notable or more prominent players, because we
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Speaker 6: need to have everybody available.
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Speaker 4: Point at those guys and tell the young guys to
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Speaker 4: stay away from that, don't roll on that. I enjoy
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Speaker 4: talking to Bucky this kind of stuff because he has
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Speaker 4: if you know it're not JP, he was a scout.
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Speaker 5: He scouted in this league. Yes you did, and you know, Bucky,
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Speaker 5: you sure can tell. I think.
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Speaker 4: The school that Trent Balkey came out of, and he
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Speaker 4: was on the Zone podcasts as we Can, talked about
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Speaker 4: this a little bit about you know, don't and I'm
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Speaker 4: drawing a blank on the phrase, but don't draft exceptions,
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Speaker 4: you know, because then you got a team of exceptions.
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Speaker 4: And that's if he believes in one thing in the draft.
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Speaker 4: That's sort of his deal. And when you look at Harrison,
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Speaker 4: when you look at the tight end, strange, when you
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Speaker 4: look at Bigsby, they are prototypical guys for their position.
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Speaker 5: They were the three that stood.
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Speaker 4: Out to me JP just when you look at them
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Speaker 4: on the field, they look the NFL part and strange
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Speaker 4: to me. Bucky really impressive guy physically.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So going back to what Trent Balky is talking about,
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Speaker 6: we kind of come from the same school because we
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Speaker 6: had our passed kind of intertwined when it comes to mentors. See,
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Speaker 6: he learned a lot from Bill Parson. Bill Parsales work
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Speaker 6: very closely with Ron Wolf when they were all together
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Speaker 6: with the Jets.
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Speaker 2: Ron Wolf goes to the Green Bay Packers.
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Speaker 6: I play for those guys, and I work for some
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Speaker 6: of his disciples in John Snyder and Scott mcclun and
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Speaker 6: those guys. And so when he talks about don't draft exceptions,
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Speaker 6: because ron Wolf used to always say, if you draft
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Speaker 6: an exception, or you make an exception to the prototype,
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Speaker 6: you'll end up having a team full of exceptions, because
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Speaker 6: you can talk yourself into you have really liked this player,
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Speaker 6: so we'll just make this special exception for him. And
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Speaker 6: so you just want to be careful when you're setting
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Speaker 6: your standards that, hey, these are the prototypes, these are
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Speaker 6: the guys that we look for. We want to have
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Speaker 6: a bigger, faster, stronger team, because there's a reason why
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Speaker 6: middleweights don't fight heavyweights.
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Speaker 2: We want to be heavyweight champs.
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Speaker 6: We want to have the biggest, fastest team because over
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Speaker 6: time we'll wear down little teams.
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Speaker 2: And so Balkey comes from that school of thought.
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Speaker 6: The other thing, when it comes to the guys that
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Speaker 6: you point to Harrison and Strange and those things like,
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Speaker 6: you want those guys to have the prototypical dimensions because
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Speaker 6: a lot of what you do as a scout is
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Speaker 6: you're trying to mitigate risks, and so you can never
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Speaker 6: guarantee one hundred percent that everybody that you bring into
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Speaker 6: the organization is going to fit. But if you can
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Speaker 6: look at a history or a study and say that, hey,
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Speaker 6: guys at this size with this weight, with this arm link,
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Speaker 6: more times than not they play in the league, where
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Speaker 6: you're now giving yourself a better pool to pull from
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Speaker 6: when it comes to guys that have realistic chances of
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Speaker 6: making the squad. And the final part of it is
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Speaker 6: another thing that you will see typically with the Jaguars
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Speaker 6: and with Baulkey, you won't see a lot.
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Speaker 2: Of small school guys.
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Speaker 6: Now, this is something that's kind of re emerging as
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Speaker 6: a trend in the National Football League. I think they
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Speaker 6: were only what is it twelve? Is either FBS is
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Speaker 6: a Football subdivision? JP knows that FCS whatever.
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Speaker 3: That yes, is the Football Championship Subdivision. That's the what
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Speaker 3: was the one double A before?
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Speaker 2: Yes? Oh so FCS, okay, so small.
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Speaker 3: Division one A FBS yes, yeah, so small school guys, well,
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Speaker 3: small school guys that were drafted in this year's draft.
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Speaker 6: And so if you look at it, the guys that
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Speaker 6: play in the National Football League, more times than not
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Speaker 6: they come from big school, Group of five, power five,
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Speaker 6: whatever you say. The biggest and best schools are producing
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Speaker 6: the best talent that plays in the league. And so
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Speaker 6: normally you'll see teams not necessarily dismiss those guys, but
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Speaker 6: it would have to be someone who is exceptional to
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Speaker 6: be able to get on board.
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Speaker 2: And I think you'll.
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Speaker 6: See a lot of big school guys continue to make
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Speaker 6: this roster because those are some of the philosophies that
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Speaker 6: Bill Parcells, Brown Wolf and those guys believed in, and
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Speaker 6: Trim Balky is of this school of thought.
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Speaker 4: Now, Bucky, could that be a little and I don't
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Speaker 4: know this, I'm asking is the transfer portal? Are small
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Speaker 4: school guys transferring to big schools for better opportunity? Is
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Speaker 4: that weeding itself out before the draft?
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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's now becoming the thing.
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Speaker 6: Unfortunately for some of the small schools, they're being treated
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Speaker 6: like Triple A farm systems, like Triple A minor league teams,
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Speaker 6: where hey, that's great, you played at a school, so
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Speaker 6: now you.
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Speaker 2: Get to graduate, come play with the big boys.
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Speaker 6: And so we have seen that kind of become increasingly
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Speaker 6: popular when you look at the draft classes. But yeah,
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Speaker 6: everything now is about big schools, and like it or not,
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Speaker 6: I would say that Ron Wolf talked about big schools.
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Speaker 2: I want to get.
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Speaker 6: The guys that have played in front of one hundred
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Speaker 6: thousand people with the band playing on national TV, because
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Speaker 6: that's as close as you can get to the NFL
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Speaker 6: at the collegiate level. And you may strike oil on
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Speaker 6: a guy who hasn't played in that environment, but the
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Speaker 6: odds say that, look, the best players are gonna come
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Speaker 6: from the best school, so you better. It's probably more effective,
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Speaker 6: cost efficient to spend your time mining those big schools
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Speaker 6: as opposed to looking for the hidden gym that may
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Speaker 6: be found elsewhere.
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Speaker 4: GM's like odds because over the course of ten years,
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Speaker 4: they like to increase their percentage of hitting, and over
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Speaker 4: time that keeps them employed.
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Speaker 3: Odd side note by the way, I met Bill Parcells
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Speaker 3: and Ron Wolf together in a booth at a Miami
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Speaker 3: Marlins spring training game in Jupiter, Florida about nine or
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Speaker 3: ten years ago, right after I started working here and
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Speaker 3: They were sitting at the booth next to me, and
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Speaker 3: the first question they asked was, how's Mike Perkins.
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Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, everybody knows.
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Speaker 2: Mike from Ray Perkins.
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Speaker 3: Yes, so it works. So huddle up podcast. Hey, let's
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Speaker 3: go to one of those big schools, Penn State. Brenton
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Speaker 3: Strange tight end and Bucky You talked about the idea
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Speaker 3: of two tight end sets and what this could do
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Speaker 3: for the Jaguars offense. They had a lot of three
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Speaker 3: tight end sets in Happy Valley.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, when you have athletic tight ends such as like me,
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Speaker 9: Evan Luke and the rest of the guys in the
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Speaker 9: in the room, you can you can create a lot
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Speaker 9: of stress on the defense. It creates mismatches all over
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Speaker 9: across the field. And that's not only in the past game,
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Speaker 9: but also being able to go out there and run
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Speaker 9: an eleven play and use this and use it as
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Speaker 9: twelve personnel, but then the next play maybe do hurry
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Speaker 9: up or something and go out there and just and.
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Speaker 8: Run the ball.
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Speaker 9: So that's that's the luxury of having and great tight.
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Speaker 8: Ends in your room.
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Speaker 9: And like I was saying to him earlier, I just
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Speaker 9: I can't wait to get in here with the older
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Speaker 9: guys on Monday and learn from them and just pick
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Speaker 9: up all the little details and everything.
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Speaker 3: So Bucky, they run deep at the tight end position.
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Speaker 3: At Penn State, they had three guys that are going
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Speaker 3: to play in the NFL, Inculding Strange at some point,
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Speaker 3: and they utilize them all over the place. We talked
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Speaker 3: about that right after the draft. But his ability to
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Speaker 3: do that gives him a chance. His versatility will be key.
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Speaker 3: And in this offense, let's go back to that two
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Speaker 3: tight end set. If it sounds like he gets it too,
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Speaker 3: what this could mean.
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Speaker 6: Well, one thing very impressed with is overall intelligence and
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Speaker 6: football awareness and savvy in terms of being able to
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Speaker 6: take something that could be complex. When he talked about
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Speaker 6: two and three tight ends and make it very easy
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Speaker 6: for the listener to understand. To me, I think it
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Speaker 6: speaks volumes as to why the Jaguars might have liked him,
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Speaker 6: because when you have smart players, it does allow you
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Speaker 6: to do more stuff.
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Speaker 2: And as he talks about the tight ends.
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Speaker 6: Being able to take Evan and Strang and put those
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Speaker 6: guys on the field and operate where you have spread formations,
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Speaker 6: but you have big personnel, how does the defense match
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Speaker 6: up to that, do you play your nickel package or
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Speaker 6: do you now play more of a base package, And
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Speaker 6: can you create a mismatch by having a lumbering linebacker
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Speaker 6: on the field with Evan Ingram, who's really a jumbo
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Speaker 6: wide receiver and the running game.
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Speaker 2: The mismatch is that he talks about.
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Speaker 6: When you put multiple tight ends on the field and
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Speaker 6: you put them attached to the attackle, you now create
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Speaker 6: an extra gap for the defense to defend. And depending
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Speaker 6: upon maybe you put both tight ends beside each other
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Speaker 6: on one side or opposite sides, it now forces the
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Speaker 6: defense out of its comfort zone because it may be
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Speaker 6: an unbalanced formation in terms of the symmetry isn't ideally
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Speaker 6: the same on both sides. And so you just want
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Speaker 6: to make sure that when you have those personnel maybe advantages,
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Speaker 6: that you take advantage of them. And so it's about
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Speaker 6: creating opportunities for Doug Peterson to be creative to continue
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Speaker 6: to put stress on the defense, not only with the
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Speaker 6: play calls, but with the personnel group is that you
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Speaker 6: put on the field.
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Speaker 4: Becky, I'm curious your thoughts on this. You had mentioned,
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Speaker 4: i think on a couple of these podcasts before that
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Speaker 4: you know because of the Jaguars wide receivers and probably
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Speaker 4: better than they had in Philly. You don't anticipate necessarily
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Speaker 4: that they'll play as many two tight end sets as
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Speaker 4: they did there. At the same time, how much of
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Speaker 4: them not using two tight end sets a lot last
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Speaker 4: year was because they feel like they didn't have the personnelity.
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Speaker 4: I guess what I'm getting at is, if they've got
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Speaker 4: these guys and if they like the packages with Ingram
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Speaker 4: and Strange, could you see a higher percentage of that scheme.
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Speaker 4: I guess it's a great problem to have, right, too
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Speaker 4: many options?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you do a bunch of creative things.
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Speaker 6: So for instance, you can talk about a sometimes you
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Speaker 6: want to have ace personnel, which would be two tight ends,
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Speaker 6: two our receivers, one back in that back could be
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Speaker 6: Travis it's the end.
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Speaker 2: You also could think.
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Speaker 6: About who could be the movable piece at wide receiver
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Speaker 6: that could go into backfield if you take Travis out.
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Speaker 6: So let's just say, for instance, you're trying to create
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Speaker 6: a mismatch or Kevin Ridley, So maybe you take Travis out,
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Speaker 6: you have the two tight ends, two wide receivers, and
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Speaker 6: then Calvin Ridley's in the backfield and then you motion
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Speaker 6: them out to dictate and create Oh.
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Speaker 2: Do you have Kevin Ridley on a linebacker? How do
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Speaker 2: you play that?
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Speaker 6: There are a lot of creative things that you can
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Speaker 6: do when you have great personnel, but personnel that are
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Speaker 6: really high football IQ guys, And so I think you'll
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Speaker 6: see some of that stuff maybe when we're not privy
17:40
Speaker 6: to it. Doug Peterson and press tailoring those guys that
17:42
Speaker 6: get in the lab and they'll do some funky formation
17:45
Speaker 6: and funky groupings to see what sticks, and you'll see
17:49
Speaker 6: them maybe periodically throw those things out throughout the course
17:52
Speaker 6: of the regular season to create mismatches.
17:54
Speaker 5: What a difference two years makes, JP.
17:55
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, and.
17:58
Speaker 4: I know we've said it on Huddle Up before the
18:01
Speaker 4: personnel overturn and the fact that we're sitting here talking
18:05
Speaker 4: about too many weapons, I'll just leave it at that.
18:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ability to go use them, to be
18:12
Speaker 3: able to scheme it up right and have that ability
18:16
Speaker 3: it didn't exist right, how.
18:17
Speaker 4: Go two tight ends until they go three wise, which
18:19
Speaker 4: is bad. I mean, it's an incredible dialer that don't
18:22
Speaker 4: overplay it, But as Bucky was talking, it just struck.
18:26
Speaker 5: Me a boy, you know the moves and the approach.
18:33
Speaker 3: We're talking about scoring thirty points a game now, I
18:35
Speaker 3: mean come on, well.
18:36
Speaker 6: Now, I mean that's a very realistic thing. And I
18:39
Speaker 6: will say this before we get into the year. Jamal
18:42
Speaker 6: Agnew could be the X factor when it comes to
18:44
Speaker 6: the personnel stuff. Doug Peterson appeared to take a liking
18:48
Speaker 6: to what he can add to the offense. We saw
18:51
Speaker 6: him play more snaps on offense last year. Well, now,
18:55
Speaker 6: just because Calvin Ridley comes doesn't mean that he's out
18:57
Speaker 6: of the equation. It just becomes how how many different
19:00
Speaker 6: packages can you put him in and remove people and
19:03
Speaker 6: just create the dynamic. He becomes really a nice weapon.
19:07
Speaker 6: So now you're right you talk about I don't want
19:09
Speaker 6: to say like a plethora of weapons, but you certainly
19:12
Speaker 6: have more weapons, more people that can do things with
19:14
Speaker 6: the ball. That makes the game a lot easier for
19:16
Speaker 6: the quarterback because he can just throw to the open
19:19
Speaker 6: guy and know that that open man and make it
19:21
Speaker 6: happen when he gets into space.
19:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a smidge of talk in the media
19:25
Speaker 4: midway through US season. Late last season because of Jamal's
19:28
Speaker 4: cap number, they might not be back and I floated
19:32
Speaker 4: head to somebody late in the season and it looked
19:34
Speaker 4: at him and like my head, you know, well because
19:40
Speaker 4: the speedio no way, I mean a the punt returning,
19:43
Speaker 4: the kick returning, but just the weapon that he had become.
19:47
Speaker 4: And again I don't think that was ever really coming
19:49
Speaker 4: from within the team anyway, but it was sort of
19:51
Speaker 4: out there because people speculated on the cap.
19:54
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21:08
Speaker 3: to chat with you since the full schedule came out.
21:11
Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean?
21:12
Speaker 6: I thought, I mean, I like it and I like
21:15
Speaker 6: the way it goes. Everyone normally likes their schedule just
21:18
Speaker 6: because that's the way we optimistically always feel about our team.
21:22
Speaker 6: But for the Jaguars, there's tremendous opportunity for this team
21:26
Speaker 6: to do some of the things that Doug Peterson will
21:29
Speaker 6: start talking to the team about the importance of not
21:32
Speaker 6: only winning the division, but putting yourself in a position
21:35
Speaker 6: and maybe you can talk about being the number one
21:37
Speaker 6: overall seed, because if you're the number one seed two
21:40
Speaker 6: games and then you're in the super Bowl, and so
21:42
Speaker 6: that could be a.
21:43
Speaker 2: Bit of the push.
21:44
Speaker 6: The back to back London games could be advantageous for
21:47
Speaker 6: the Jaguars depending on how they handle the travel stuff
21:50
Speaker 6: because the franchise is going over there. Logistically, the Jaguars
21:54
Speaker 6: know how to get the team over there getting prepared
21:57
Speaker 6: to play play well.
21:58
Speaker 2: Well.
21:58
Speaker 6: Now you have back to back weeks, we have two
22:00
Speaker 6: teams that are having to deal with maybe an uncomfortable environment,
22:04
Speaker 6: something that's new to them, where the Jaguars could be
22:07
Speaker 6: settled those two games. If the Jaguars are able to
22:10
Speaker 6: really win both of those games, those two games can
22:13
Speaker 6: be the difference between being maybe the top seed and
22:16
Speaker 6: being the third or fourth seed in the tournament.
22:19
Speaker 3: If you win a division, good early start could build
22:22
Speaker 3: some momentum.
22:23
Speaker 2: Well.
22:23
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson at the start of rookie Minnie Camp was
22:26
Speaker 3: asked about the expectations that are building around the twenty
22:29
Speaker 3: twenty three Jaguars and how to manage them.
22:32
Speaker 10: The expectation is to win, you know, and that was
22:35
Speaker 10: our expectation last year. And even though parts of the
22:39
Speaker 10: year weren't as good as other parts of the year,
22:42
Speaker 10: you know, that's still that still has to be you know, priority,
22:46
Speaker 10: got to win football games in this league, and so
22:49
Speaker 10: but listen, it's as you guys know, You've heard it
22:52
Speaker 10: from me a million times. I mean, it's a one game,
22:56
Speaker 10: it's one day, it's one player at a time. You know,
22:58
Speaker 10: it's about the team, and we keep the team in
23:01
Speaker 10: front and focused and and you know it's the main thing.
23:06
Speaker 10: And you got to keep the main thing the main thing.
23:09
Speaker 10: And but yet expectations are, you know, to.
23:12
Speaker 2: Win games, to win.
23:14
Speaker 3: The expectation is to win. But there is that process
23:17
Speaker 3: to get there, and it takes day by day building
23:19
Speaker 3: of players and scheme and you know you can't cheat it.
23:23
Speaker 3: You got to go through all that process to get there.
23:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why I don't. I don't worry
23:30
Speaker 4: about this team, uh with a sophomore slump or whatever
23:36
Speaker 4: you call it, that's not the right word for it.
23:38
Speaker 4: But I get a lot of questions to people about
23:41
Speaker 4: you know, now that teams know that they're coming, they'll
23:45
Speaker 4: be prepared for them.
23:46
Speaker 5: And I don't.
23:48
Speaker 4: It didn't feel to me like their late season run
23:51
Speaker 4: was built on teams not thinking the Jaguars were good.
23:55
Speaker 5: I mean, did the Chargers not think the Jaguars were good?
23:58
Speaker 4: They had already beat them by twenty two out there,
24:01
Speaker 4: So I understand that being a theme in people talking about.
24:06
Speaker 5: I don't think that'll be a factor for this team.
24:08
Speaker 4: And I don't think this scene to me doesn't feel
24:13
Speaker 4: like a team that thinks, oh well, we accomplished this
24:15
Speaker 4: last year. Now we're set. I think the young players
24:18
Speaker 4: in this team, in the core see last year as
24:22
Speaker 4: a start, and I've got to believe that internally in
24:27
Speaker 4: their gut, the goal this year is to join the
24:30
Speaker 4: four or meaning make it Cincinnati, Buffalo, Kansas City, Jacksonville.
24:37
Speaker 4: And there's more than that, obviously, but you know, I'm
24:39
Speaker 4: getting that be one of those teams that's going to
24:41
Speaker 4: be there. And so to me, those are the three
24:45
Speaker 4: games this year, you know, in the regular season, when
24:47
Speaker 4: you're looking at those are the ones people are going
24:50
Speaker 4: to circle that in San Francisco, how do you do
24:51
Speaker 4: against the Powers?
24:54
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, all this stuff matters.
24:56
Speaker 6: And you know, Doug Peterson will probably use the Lombard
25:00
Speaker 6: quote who took from doctor Jonas Salk. He says, the
25:03
Speaker 6: greatest work reward for doing is the opportunity to do more.
25:07
Speaker 6: And so once you start winning, the opportunity to do
25:10
Speaker 6: more is what the expectation is. And so for Doug Peterson,
25:14
Speaker 6: look man, being the playoffs should be kind of like
25:17
Speaker 6: the prerequisite, that should be the starting point. It's about
25:20
Speaker 6: winning the divisions each and every years, putting yourself in
25:22
Speaker 6: a position to earn a high seat so you're always
25:25
Speaker 6: in the conversation to win the title. You may not
25:27
Speaker 6: win the title every year, but you want to be
25:29
Speaker 6: in that conversation. And so to do that, though, he
25:32
Speaker 6: has to constantly remind the team what it took to
25:36
Speaker 6: learn how to win games. He talks about one player
25:38
Speaker 6: at a time, one day at a time, All of
25:40
Speaker 6: those things focus more on the process than the result.
25:43
Speaker 2: We know that the process, when done.
25:45
Speaker 6: Correctly and properly execute it leads to the result that
25:49
Speaker 6: everybody wants. And so as much as the outside expectation
25:52
Speaker 6: is to win, he'll focus on a make sure we
25:55
Speaker 6: understand our process and what we need to do to
25:57
Speaker 6: make sure we take care of our business so that
25:59
Speaker 6: we can win. If we do that, those things take
26:01
Speaker 6: care of themselves.
26:02
Speaker 3: In the end, we saw how thin these victories and
26:06
Speaker 3: losses were last year. It comes down We've known this forever.
26:09
Speaker 3: It comes down to like five plays in a game
26:13
Speaker 3: that can change the outcome. And they went the right
26:17
Speaker 3: way down the stretch for the Jags too.
26:18
Speaker 4: Well, that's what you assume will be reiterated it. I
26:23
Speaker 4: know Doug from what he has said, doesn't spend a
26:25
Speaker 4: whole lot of time with negative or you know, hey,
26:31
Speaker 4: don't forget this. But the reality was they won five
26:35
Speaker 4: games late in the season last year where they came
26:37
Speaker 4: from double digits down, and any one of those goes differently,
26:43
Speaker 4: and the seasons dramatically differently, and they needed miracles in
26:46
Speaker 4: the last two games. So there is a reality of
26:51
Speaker 4: I believe most Jaguars observers believe that they are going
26:55
Speaker 4: to sort of surge their way into that power force
26:58
Speaker 4: them as as I'm thinking, and that could be wrong,
27:00
Speaker 4: but everybody knows case sincey Buffalo have been sort of
27:03
Speaker 4: the teams you want to get in that group and
27:06
Speaker 4: then start beating them.
27:07
Speaker 5: But they've got to be better than they.
27:11
Speaker 4: Were last year to be a part of that group.
27:15
Speaker 4: They didn't beat Kansas City either time.
27:17
Speaker 5: Last year.
27:17
Speaker 4: They didn't really beat a power team except for Dallas,
27:19
Speaker 4: So there's a step. I think that step is going
27:22
Speaker 4: to be consistency a quarterback and not not sort of
27:25
Speaker 4: floundering a little bit like they did for the first
27:27
Speaker 4: ten or eleven games. But there's every reason to think
27:31
Speaker 4: that they will be the second half team, meaning the
27:34
Speaker 4: second half of last season, and that they'll push toward that,
27:37
Speaker 4: but that step still us to be taken. They're not
27:39
Speaker 4: there yet.
27:41
Speaker 2: No, they're not there yet.
27:42
Speaker 6: And I would say it is learning from my beloved
27:45
Speaker 6: Carolina tar Heels and the basketball team. They went to
27:48
Speaker 6: the title game the year before and thought that they
27:50
Speaker 6: would be able to roll out the balls and be
27:53
Speaker 6: the number one team in the country, and they skip
27:55
Speaker 6: steps and they didn't play particularly well. I think the
27:57
Speaker 6: difference is Doug Paterson is keenly where Hey, just because
28:01
Speaker 6: we got to the postseason, that doesn't mean we overlooked
28:03
Speaker 6: the warts.
28:04
Speaker 2: That popped up on the team. Last year.
28:06
Speaker 6: You guys talked about the number of double digit deficits
28:09
Speaker 6: that we had to overcome to win those games. Well,
28:11
Speaker 6: now you want to talk about we got to start
28:13
Speaker 6: fast and faster. We got to make sure we jump
28:15
Speaker 6: on people right away. We don't want to have to
28:17
Speaker 6: wait till the last five minutes of a game to
28:19
Speaker 6: have a miraculous comeback. And so there's a maturity that
28:23
Speaker 6: now has to come with the team. In terms of
28:25
Speaker 6: you talked about consistency. The team has to consistently play
28:29
Speaker 6: at a high level so it can avoid some of those.
28:30
Speaker 4: Things, Bucky, Is that you know, I think you hit
28:33
Speaker 4: on something that's going to be interesting. You always look
28:36
Speaker 4: for things early in the season to sort of tell
28:38
Speaker 4: you where a team is. To me, what you just
28:41
Speaker 4: said is the biggest thing I'm looking for in September
28:45
Speaker 4: early October?
28:46
Speaker 5: Is this now a team that.
28:50
Speaker 4: I know this isn't exactly right, but it seemed like
28:51
Speaker 4: every time I watch Kansas City they're up seven to nothing.
28:56
Speaker 5: Is that sort of what you're looking forward to?
28:58
Speaker 2: Say?
28:58
Speaker 4: Okay, this is a team because it's going to be
29:00
Speaker 4: an offensive team, There's no question about that. So if
29:02
Speaker 4: you're going to be that sort of a team. Out
29:04
Speaker 4: of seventeen eighteen games, you want to see a stat
29:07
Speaker 4: at the end of the first quarter Jaguars have led
29:09
Speaker 4: seven of eight time. You know you want to see
29:12
Speaker 4: them be that team. Is that sort of what you're
29:14
Speaker 4: looking for?
29:15
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I've heard Doug talk about this.
29:17
Speaker 6: Start fast, finished faster, you know, jump on them early,
29:22
Speaker 6: and then finish the game and close it out with
29:24
Speaker 6: a flurry. Part of the reason if you're going to
29:26
Speaker 6: be an offensive team. Like we're speculating, your offense has
29:29
Speaker 6: to bring it early, and what you want the offense
29:33
Speaker 6: to do is to be your best defense. Meaning when
29:35
Speaker 6: you're able to hang a quick fourteen on the opponent,
29:38
Speaker 6: it now takes them out of the opportunity to be
29:40
Speaker 6: a balanced team where they can attack you with the
29:42
Speaker 6: run and the pass.
29:44
Speaker 2: That helps the defense.
29:45
Speaker 6: Because now you're in pass rushing mode. Keep the ball
29:48
Speaker 6: in front, and do those things. So, yes, you may
29:51
Speaker 6: hear more screaming and barking at the offense because the
29:56
Speaker 6: execution needs to be high because the expectation will be
29:59
Speaker 6: that this team needs to score every time they get
30:02
Speaker 6: the ball. Whether that's realistic or not, we'll see, but
30:05
Speaker 6: that would be the expectation.
30:06
Speaker 2: We need to go. We need to execute at a
30:08
Speaker 2: high level.
30:09
Speaker 6: And if we execute at a high level offensively, we'll
30:12
Speaker 6: run teams out of the stadium.
30:13
Speaker 2: And it make life easy for the defense.
30:15
Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go, Jason.
30:16
Speaker 3: If they score every time, I bet they're scoring more
30:19
Speaker 3: than thirty a game.
30:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, you all, I know.
30:22
Speaker 8: I'm not good at math.
30:23
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's a pretty good I want to
30:25
Speaker 3: do it.
30:26
Speaker 4: But as as as strange as that sounds sitting here
30:31
Speaker 4: in the offseason. I mean, Bucky's right, I think thirty
30:33
Speaker 4: one a game is sort of what you're looking for
30:37
Speaker 4: and the way it's built. If they're going to take
30:41
Speaker 4: a step, it needs to come from there. That's going
30:44
Speaker 4: to be if we're sitting here week eight, Boy, this
30:47
Speaker 4: is a much better team than last year. I think realistically,
30:50
Speaker 4: that's where you're going to be talking about it. The
30:52
Speaker 4: best chance of them being better and being that team
30:55
Speaker 4: we're talking about being among that power group is to
30:59
Speaker 4: have that.
31:00
Speaker 3: Because those teams are going to keep doing it too,
31:02
Speaker 3: and you got to keep up with the Joneses, and
31:04
Speaker 3: those are the Joneses. By the way, it all comes
31:07
Speaker 3: down to OTA number one on Monday and John's tracking
31:12
Speaker 3: of Trevor's statistics. Bucky, So, I'm sure you're gonna look
31:16
Speaker 3: for that on Twitter on Monday. It's one of the
31:19
Speaker 3: three OTAs that are open to the media. But all
31:22
Speaker 3: this success, you know, comes down to Monday in my opinion, Bucky,
31:25
Speaker 3: what do you think, Well, I.
31:27
Speaker 6: Mean, look, we get a start, you get a start
31:29
Speaker 6: off fast, and so I would expect John to be
31:31
Speaker 6: out there pinning pad making great notes on the number
31:36
Speaker 6: of completions that Trevor has. I should be able to
31:38
Speaker 6: see a report a Trevor finished eighteen for twenty two,
31:41
Speaker 6: going through seven oh seven and team drills. Everything looked great.
31:45
Speaker 6: He should be able to kind of quickly tally in
31:47
Speaker 6: his head Calvin Ridley had six of those catches for
31:49
Speaker 6: well over one hundred yards based on my calculations and
31:51
Speaker 6: those things, and then we can get excited about it.
31:54
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pressure not only are the Jags,
31:56
Speaker 2: but on Jo for making sure that he's there taking
31:59
Speaker 2: copious note.
32:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be honest.
32:01
Speaker 4: The Lombardi quote you threw out about the greatest reward being.
32:05
Speaker 6: The greatest thing is the greatest reward for doing is
32:07
Speaker 6: the opportunity to do more.
32:09
Speaker 2: He took it for.
32:10
Speaker 5: Great reward for doing is a cold beer in a nap.
32:17
Speaker 3: Tears to that. I'm in Buck. You will talk to
32:22
Speaker 3: you next week.
32:23
Speaker 6: Oh, it should be fun, looking forward, looking forward to
32:25
Speaker 6: talking about all things ot as.
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Speaker 2: Looking forward to it.
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Speaker 3: We'll do that all of the thing. It's about ot
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