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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, it's education really, so the school system or parents,
- 0:04Speaker 1: they don't teach about investing. They don't teach about saving.
- 0:08Speaker 1: And the wealthier families or the families who have children
- 0:11Speaker 1: who have training, they say, you set aside for yourself
- 0:15Speaker 1: first and you spend later. That's a cultural difference. Most Americans,
- 0:20Speaker 1: they spend all they have and they hope they get more.
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- 0:46Speaker 3: Ever, and welcome. You are listening to and watching the
- 0:53Speaker 3: Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Letz, and I'm
- 0:57Speaker 3: traveling a bit, so the studio that you see in
- 1:01Speaker 3: the background is not my usual studio, please forgive, and
- 1:05Speaker 3: don't have my usual mic and equipment. But my next
- 1:10Speaker 3: guest I felt was important enough that you would want
- 1:12Speaker 3: to hear what he had to say. His name is
- 1:14Speaker 3: Eric Weir, and of course Eric is in real estate
- 1:18Speaker 3: because everybody we have on this show is in real Estate.
- 1:21Speaker 3: He's also the author of an Amazon bestseller, a fellow
- 1:27Speaker 3: best selling author, Who's Eating Your Pie, and Essential financial
- 1:32Speaker 3: Advice that will Transform your life. Before we got on
- 1:38Speaker 3: the call, Eric was sharing some things about himself. He
- 1:41Speaker 3: told me when he was five, he was in a
- 1:44Speaker 3: car accident and when he emerged from the accident he
- 1:48Speaker 3: had a stutter and talk about taking a liability and
- 1:53Speaker 3: turning it into an asset. Eric, you seem to have
- 1:56Speaker 3: really mastered that, So just share that story with us
- 2:00Speaker 3: if you don't mind.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, yes, sure. So at age five, I'm
- 2:03Speaker 1: in a car wreck and I'm spun around in the
- 2:06Speaker 1: car and I look look look over and I see
- 2:09Speaker 1: a person that's being taken away on a stretcher, like wow,
- 2:13Speaker 1: And my mom says, stay in the car. My brother says,
- 2:16Speaker 1: you know, we got to stay here. The cops says
- 2:18Speaker 1: stay there. And at that time they had a show
- 2:21Speaker 1: called Bugs Bunny and the you know, the road Runner show.
- 2:24Speaker 1: But car's wrecked, they explode, so I thought it was
- 2:28Speaker 1: going to be blow up. So it was very traumatic
- 2:30Speaker 1: and I had a brand injury. I went to a
- 2:33Speaker 1: speech therapist maybe a week later. Since nineteen seventy two,
- 2:37Speaker 1: and the speech therapist said, Eric, odds, Are you're going
- 2:40Speaker 1: to be a failure. You're going to be reclusive, You're
- 2:43Speaker 1: going to avoid conversation, You're going to withdraw and insids
- 2:46Speaker 1: You'll be a failure. And she stopped and she goes,
- 2:49Speaker 1: Are you could reframe every obstacle, every person you talk
- 2:55Speaker 1: to and make it like a rocky climb to success
- 2:59Speaker 1: and you'll be unstoppable. But the choice is up to you.
- 3:02Speaker 1: You could be a failure or you could be a success.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I looked at my dad, thinking, Dad, tell me this
- 3:07Speaker 1: person is a quack, right, and he goes, Eric, well,
- 3:09Speaker 1: that's going to be hard, so let's get started. And
- 3:12Speaker 1: a good thing happened with that. Because I never thought
- 3:15Speaker 1: life would be easy. Are there anything would be given
- 3:17Speaker 1: to me? Or that the government would take care of me?
- 3:20Speaker 1: I love at age five, thinking I got to own
- 3:23Speaker 1: this and I've got to take charge. Yeah.
- 3:25Speaker 3: So taught you a valuable lesson, and I'm sure you've
- 3:29Speaker 3: applied that lesson repeatedly throughout life.
- 3:33Speaker 1: I mean it's over and over again, yes, almost daily.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Yeah. So these are like not the best of economic times,
- 3:41Speaker 3: but in every economy there are winners and losers. How
- 3:45Speaker 3: do you become a winner in this economy?
- 3:47Speaker 1: Eric, Well, it's education really, So the school system or parents,
- 3:51Speaker 1: they don't they don't teach about investing. They don't teach
- 3:54Speaker 1: about saving. And the wealthier families or the families who
- 3:58Speaker 1: have children who have training, they say, you set aside
- 4:02Speaker 1: for yourself first and you spend later. That's a cultural difference.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Most Americans, they spend all they have and they hope
- 4:10Speaker 1: they get more, and when they get more, they spend more.
- 4:13Speaker 1: They get more, they spend more, and they get a
- 4:15Speaker 1: credit card, they get a student loan, and they set
- 4:17Speaker 1: themselves up in debt. And the financial system is set
- 4:21Speaker 1: up in such a way that they don't teach them
- 4:24Speaker 1: and so people end up in debt and up in
- 4:25Speaker 1: despair and they spend the raise is to save the rays.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Right, So you know that's a thing where people easy credit,
- 4:35Speaker 3: they get a windfall, the first thing they do is
- 4:36Speaker 3: go buy a flat screen, although now flat screens are
- 4:40Speaker 3: so cheap that but you know the point is they
- 4:44Speaker 3: don't invest. And in today's world, you have to be
- 4:49Speaker 3: looking forward to putting your money to work for you.
- 4:53Speaker 3: How do you plan for the future, for retirement. You
- 4:57Speaker 3: can't just live for today, right.
- 4:59Speaker 1: You can't. I tell people retirement is not an age.
- 5:02Speaker 1: It's a math problem. It's a math problem that when
- 5:05Speaker 1: your investments are a business you've started or something, it
- 5:08Speaker 1: pays your bills and not your current income. So it's
- 5:11Speaker 1: not an age. It's a math problem. Right.
- 5:14Speaker 3: So you know, people really maybe don't view it as such,
- 5:20Speaker 3: and they don't teach math very well in school these days.
- 5:23Speaker 3: But how have you made it different? How have you
- 5:27Speaker 3: taught your children so they don't fall into this trap?
- 5:31Speaker 1: So what I did I made a box for them,
- 5:33Speaker 1: and I said, you know, you need to be charitable.
- 5:36Speaker 1: No matter what you give to you, you have to
- 5:37Speaker 1: give to something. So part of every of a bit
- 5:41Speaker 1: of money is giving back to somebody less fortunate than you.
- 5:44Speaker 1: And that's another it Also it frees you of the
- 5:47Speaker 1: greed of money because you, at a young age you
- 5:50Speaker 1: learn it's not all about yourself. Then I say there's
- 5:53Speaker 1: some that you invest. I don't say save. I say
- 5:56Speaker 1: invest because save is like you're thinking I'll buy a
- 5:59Speaker 1: CD or thing.
- 6:00Speaker 3: It's passive.
- 6:01Speaker 1: You don't make mistakes, but you don't learn from mistakes,
- 6:05Speaker 1: and you never own Amazon for ten years. If you
- 6:08Speaker 1: just do that, the third thing I say is then
- 6:11Speaker 1: you live. You have an amount of money you live on,
- 6:14Speaker 1: and as you start to make money, don't let your
- 6:17Speaker 1: don't let your lifestyle grow as fast as your wages do.
- 6:21Speaker 1: And I say, if you're smart for ten years after
- 6:24Speaker 1: college or after high school, and you do that, the
- 6:27Speaker 1: rest of your life, you'll be set up. Two things
- 6:30Speaker 1: will happen. You'll build a discipline that you'll follow the
- 6:32Speaker 1: rest of your life, and two you will have a
- 6:34Speaker 1: nest egg that grows the rest of your life. And
- 6:35Speaker 1: I was talking to a twenty three year old yesterday
- 6:38Speaker 1: who inherited a couple hundred grant and the first thing
- 6:41Speaker 1: you want to do is spend eighty five thousand on
- 6:43Speaker 1: a car and shut the balance on a down payment
- 6:47Speaker 1: on the nicest condo he could afford. And I said,
- 6:50Speaker 1: you're putting money in an asset is going to go down,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and you're buying a house that best case keeps up
- 6:56Speaker 1: with inflation, and you have expenses and things you just
- 6:58Speaker 1: don't need. Get a roommate apartment and save all the money.
- 7:03Speaker 1: He goes, what do you mean. I said, let's just
- 7:04Speaker 1: say that you you average I picked a number twelve percent,
- 7:08Speaker 1: which is higher the most people have averaged in the markets.
- 7:11Speaker 1: But just to make a point, I said, if you
- 7:14Speaker 1: put that two hundred thousand today when you're sixty, will
- 7:19Speaker 1: be worth thirty times what it is today, thirty times.
- 7:23Speaker 1: And he's like, what, So it'll take you five years
- 7:25Speaker 1: of double the first time, then five years to double
- 7:27Speaker 1: the second time, but you're double in the double and
- 7:30Speaker 1: by the thirtieth year, your original investment is doubling it
- 7:33Speaker 1: every two months.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the power of as Einstein said, the greatest
- 7:40Speaker 3: mystery in the universe, the power of the compound interest.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Right, one hundred percent. And he and he's a smart kid,
- 7:48Speaker 1: he's been through college. He's like, I've never heard that before,
- 7:51Speaker 1: no matter who I've heard save, I've heard don't spend money,
- 7:54Speaker 1: don't buy a card, stupid, but I've never heard the
- 7:57Speaker 1: logic behind it, just like, don't do it, but not
- 7:59Speaker 1: why not to do it?
- 8:00Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, it's called the deferred consumption from an economic standpoint,
- 8:07Speaker 3: and basically it's not living for today. But there's a
- 8:13Speaker 3: balance there too.
- 8:14Speaker 1: You can't hundred percent yeah, right, And what you find
- 8:20Speaker 1: is that discipline allows you to think differently. You think
- 8:23Speaker 1: about your education differently, but the jobs differently. You think
- 8:26Speaker 1: about deferred gratification. So, you know, if you find out
- 8:29Speaker 1: that you can solve problems for other people. If I
- 8:32Speaker 1: solve a problem by breaking your yard, that has a value, right.
- 8:35Speaker 1: But if I solve a problem that saves you one
- 8:38Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, that has a different value. If I
- 8:40Speaker 1: solve a problem saves you five million, that has a
- 8:42Speaker 1: different value. Still, So how do you solve bigger problems
- 8:46Speaker 1: for people? And it's just and you know, and problems
- 8:49Speaker 1: are opportunities. They're not people look at they don't want them,
- 8:52Speaker 1: and somebody else's problem is an opportunity, particularly if you
- 8:55Speaker 1: can help them solve it. You know, Leiah Coca, when
- 8:58Speaker 1: you was talking about the first turnaround of Chrysler, you know,
- 9:02Speaker 1: where the country, the company was really on the balls behind,
- 9:11Speaker 1: and he said, we had the luxury of adversity. And
- 9:16Speaker 1: that has always stuck in my mind, because you perform
- 9:20Speaker 1: best when you when the odds are against you, when
- 9:25Speaker 1: you have to really knuckle down and really really face
- 9:32Speaker 1: adversity and overcome it, you know, and that's and that's
- 9:36Speaker 1: what builds.
- 9:37Speaker 3: True, true self esteem. It's not like you got an
- 9:43Speaker 3: A at a class, although if you really worked hard
- 9:46Speaker 3: and you were failing and you turned it around, that
- 9:49Speaker 3: could very well be a self esteem builder. But when
- 9:53Speaker 3: stuff comes easy and you know and there's basically no
- 10:00Speaker 3: challenge to it, like with the example you gave with
- 10:03Speaker 3: that young man inheriting two hundred thousand, it just came
- 10:08Speaker 3: out of the sky and you not talk to him.
- 10:12Speaker 3: So did he wind up not buying the car and
- 10:14Speaker 3: the condo?
- 10:15Speaker 1: Too soon to tell? I don't know. It was this week,
- 10:18Speaker 1: so I don't know, And I'm just like, just just
- 10:20Speaker 1: keep your current car. You can have all the cars
- 10:23Speaker 1: you want later. And it's just it's just it's timing
- 10:27Speaker 1: and being thoughtful and how do you And I said,
- 10:30Speaker 1: your job, as I told him, your job is to
- 10:33Speaker 1: make enough money that you don't need to touch your
- 10:34Speaker 1: inheritance and let that work for you. And if you
- 10:37Speaker 1: do that, you'll probably probably the rest of your life
- 10:40Speaker 1: you'll be in good financial shape. But you've got to
- 10:42Speaker 1: protect your an estate. Does it act like you didn't
- 10:45Speaker 1: have it, You didn't have it a week ago. So
- 10:47Speaker 1: if you live like you didn't have it, then nothing
- 10:49Speaker 1: changed other than you've got a backstop that most people
- 10:51Speaker 1: your age don't have.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Yeah, well, right, you know, Eric, I got one question
- 10:57Speaker 3: for you. Where were you when I needed you?
- 11:04Speaker 1: I was flying a very well known I have an airplane,
- 11:09Speaker 1: and I donate my airplane for people to travel to
- 11:12Speaker 1: speak at events, to encourage the people. So it's a
- 11:16Speaker 1: little bit selfish because I picked the people up. I
- 11:19Speaker 1: spend time with them. They fly up front with me
- 11:21Speaker 1: and I talked to them. He said the same thing.
- 11:23Speaker 1: He goes, I want to cy Young Award. I've won
- 11:25Speaker 1: all these golden gloves. I've made you know over you know,
- 11:28Speaker 1: seventy five eighty million as a pitcher. And I didn't
- 11:31Speaker 1: save much money, And he said, wherever you And it's like,
- 11:35Speaker 1: because when I signed my first contract, I spent it all.
- 11:39Speaker 1: And literally, there are businesses that prey on athletes that
- 11:43Speaker 1: will factor their bonuses up front and they'll give them
- 11:46Speaker 1: eighty percent of it. So when they get the check,
- 11:49Speaker 1: the company gets the money and they give the advance
- 11:52Speaker 1: the athlete money and they don't give them the cars.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And it's just it's a it's an industry of consumption
- 11:58Speaker 1: and if you if you spend it now, you spend
- 12:02Speaker 1: less if you spend a letter, you spend more actually
- 12:04Speaker 1: deferred gratification. You can have everything you want and even
- 12:06Speaker 1: more than he ever drained if you if you reframe
- 12:10Speaker 1: it and can just deffer some gratification, I mean, do
- 12:13Speaker 1: some nice things. I'm not saying nothing, but just be thoughtful.
- 12:16Speaker 1: You can spend. I have another person that brought me
- 12:19Speaker 1: in the kid to consult and they said, help me
- 12:21Speaker 1: save money. And I observed him and I saved them
- 12:23Speaker 1: a crazy amount of money, and I said, what are
- 12:25Speaker 1: you doing now? I said, well, I'm one own person.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I have a big contract, and I've got a fly
- 12:30Speaker 1: from Atlanta to la and I could take an airline,
- 12:32Speaker 1: but instead he charted a golf stream and he shook
- 12:36Speaker 1: all his friends with him, and he had the limo
- 12:38Speaker 1: service and he had to get security and all this stuff.
- 12:41Speaker 1: I got two hundred and fifty thousand dollars trip, and
- 12:44Speaker 1: he could have done it for ten thousand in an
- 12:47Speaker 1: amazing way and save two hundred and forty. But that
- 12:50Speaker 1: money's gone forever now.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Or he could have flown steerage and done it for
- 12:56Speaker 3: five hundred bucks exactly. It's yeah, it's shocking, but I've
- 13:02Speaker 3: been guilty in my own respect. But the one thing
- 13:06Speaker 3: I did was I had a different kind of force savings.
- 13:09Speaker 3: I put it into gold and silver and I managed
- 13:13Speaker 3: to hold on to all of it for the past
- 13:15Speaker 3: fifteen years. But I you know, because life happens like
- 13:19Speaker 3: That's the other thing when you save the money. When
- 13:22Speaker 3: when you get a divorce, so you get a bill
- 13:24Speaker 3: from the irs, or one of your kids or both
- 13:28Speaker 3: of them are going to get married, you know, you
- 13:30Speaker 3: go to your stash wherever it is, and you have
- 13:34Speaker 3: the money to do it. So that's that's why you save.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Also not just for the future, but for future challenges
- 13:43Speaker 3: of life.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent, elder care, medical needs. You just
- 13:47Speaker 1: never know what comes up. You know. There's also opportunities
- 13:50Speaker 1: when there's a recession or a difficult time. I've been
- 13:53Speaker 1: able to buy properties or buy assets. You know, I
- 13:56Speaker 1: always say there's no distressed real estate. They're distressed owners.
- 14:01Speaker 1: So Eric carrs or anything else, right, opportunistic things, and
- 14:06Speaker 1: it's just just being ready and and and when things
- 14:09Speaker 1: go in cycles, the trees don't grow the sky, and
- 14:12Speaker 1: whatever is in vogue today, in five years, it won't
- 14:14Speaker 1: be in vogue.
- 14:15Speaker 3: And there'll be opportunities. So you mentioned children. Your children
- 14:20Speaker 3: appreciate your attitude now or do you ever get some
- 14:24Speaker 3: resentment for it.
- 14:26Speaker 1: I think it's mixed. I think I think the I
- 14:29Speaker 1: think they have an appre The older they are, the
- 14:31Speaker 1: more they appreciate it. The younger they are, the less
- 14:33Speaker 1: they appreciate it. But they're all entrepreneurial, they're all problem solvers.
- 14:37Speaker 1: And with any key kids you have, they're all over
- 14:39Speaker 1: the one's better one thing than the other. But I
- 14:42Speaker 1: think I think it's a mindset that they learned at
- 14:44Speaker 1: a young age that's helpful and and at the end
- 14:48Speaker 1: of the day, I think it'll it'll pay them, you know,
- 14:50Speaker 1: it'll pay them a lot of dividends over time. And
- 14:52Speaker 1: already one of my children I'm talking to is he's saving,
- 14:55Speaker 1: you know, a percent of what he makes. He's in
- 14:58Speaker 1: a four to one Cavelan Max and that out He's looking,
- 15:01Speaker 1: can I buy a rental property? And I'm like, well,
- 15:03Speaker 1: maybe a VRBL. Maybe there's something you can do where
- 15:06Speaker 1: it's it's a higher return, it's more active, it's not
- 15:08Speaker 1: as passive, but you have a little more return. You
- 15:10Speaker 1: have time, or you have money, and you can train
- 15:13Speaker 1: you don't have as much money, but you have more
- 15:14Speaker 1: time than use your time to make money. I love
- 15:17Speaker 1: it later life, use your money to make time.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Uh, that's it's such a simple thing, and yet uh
- 15:24Speaker 3: it's so hard for most of you out there to grasp.
- 15:27Speaker 3: So everybody go over to Ericweir dot com. That's e
- 15:31Speaker 3: R I k W E I R dot com and
- 15:35Speaker 3: you can get the book Who's Eating Your Pie? Highly recommended.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Achieve every goal you set for yourself for the rest
- 15:42Speaker 3: of your life. Not too big a promise, but it
- 15:45Speaker 3: sounds like Eric is the person who can deliver. And
- 15:48Speaker 3: if you got any questions for Eric or myself, shoot
- 15:51Speaker 3: me an email kl at Carrie LUTs dot com. Eric,
- 15:54Speaker 3: thanks for being on.
- 15:55Speaker 1: It's my pleasure.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thanks for listening to carry lets
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