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Dead Media feat. Joseph Scrimshaw (2025) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: Maggie is a troubled young woman who just wants to
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  Speaker 2: watch an old horror movie on streaming. Her aging gen
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  Speaker 2: X uncle gets word.
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  Speaker 3: Of this and says, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: No, you gotta watch it the best way on.
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  Speaker 3: Old school DVD.
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  Speaker 2: But the disc ain't right and horror ensues. That is
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  Speaker 2: the story of Dead Media, the world's first haunted DVD movie,
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  Speaker 2: and it is coming to cities across the US this
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  Speaker 2: summer and fall. For tickets in full details, check out
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  Speaker 2: Antenna Releasing dot com slash film slash Dead Media. Because
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  Speaker 2: some folks may be done with the DVD, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not done with you.
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  Speaker 3: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 3: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy the show. Welcome back to Fried Mear's podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 4: your host Austin Procter and joining me today discussing a
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  Speaker 4: brand new film for twenty twenty six is the director himself,
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  Speaker 4: Joseph Scrimshaw. How are we doing today?
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  Speaker 3: Very happy to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for being here. I appreciate it. I always
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  Speaker 4: love to talk to to indie directors and this is
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  Speaker 4: this is this one is a lot of fun. It's
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  Speaker 4: called Dead Media and it will be leasing TBD. It
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  Speaker 4: isn't in the middle of a theatrical run, and it's
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be on VOD sometime soon. By the time
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  Speaker 4: this episode airs, it should be it should be available shortly. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: There is a bloody disgusting article that is out there
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  Speaker 4: that has not a set date. So but yeah, this
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  Speaker 4: is a movie that shows us all you need is
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  Speaker 4: a sword on the flip phone and you can do anything.
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  Speaker 4: If you have not heard of this movie before, uh.
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  Speaker 4: The summary from IMDb is a story of a troubled
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  Speaker 4: young woman, her lonely gen X uncle, a haunted DVD,
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  Speaker 4: and a movie that won't die. Uh. This premise interesting
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  Speaker 4: interested me immediately, especially when Ryan Varrel from Antenna UH
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  Speaker 4: and The Disconnected and everything he does a lot. He
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  Speaker 4: reached out to me and was like, there's an indie
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  Speaker 4: horror director looking to be on podcasts. It's like, ooh, me, me,
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  Speaker 4: me me. He sent over the sent over the screener
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  Speaker 4: and uh actually finished. I finished watching it today because
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to it to be fresh in my head.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun it is. It definitely thrives
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  Speaker 4: on that nostalgia. So if you're into that, this is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be the movie for you. Even as a physical
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  Speaker 4: media fan like I have over, I think I just
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  Speaker 4: hit over like two thousand Blu rays, DVDs and all
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  Speaker 4: that stuff. So even as a physical media fan, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I love a movie that's like pro physical media.
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  Speaker 4: There's not enough. There's not enough of those these days.
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  Speaker 4: So let me give you a little background on Joseph
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  Speaker 4: and then we'll talk about the movie here. So from
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  Speaker 4: your IMDb summary, it's usually where I pull from. Joseph
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  Speaker 4: Scrimshaw is a filmmaker based in Los Angeles, originally from Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: He has many years of experience as a writer, director, actor, producer,
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  Speaker 4: and comedian and multiple mediums. He's written for adult swim
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  Speaker 4: fantasy comedy TV show tig Tone, the movie Riffing Group,
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  Speaker 4: riff Tracks, the public radio sketch comedy show Withs, the
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  Speaker 4: scripted podcast Getting On with James ur Ben urban Ayak
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  Speaker 4: urban Urbaniac. That's a fun name. He has done two
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  Speaker 4: short films and Narrators starring Phil Lamar that won a
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  Speaker 4: Silver Award for Best experimental Short at the Portland Festival
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  Speaker 4: of Cinema, Animation and Technology. His twenty two minute horror
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  Speaker 4: short The Nightmare Adorable has played in twenty festivals, winning
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  Speaker 4: Best Short at the Bloody Mirror Festival. You also do
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  Speaker 4: plays Adventures in Mating an Inconvenient Squirrel which sounds amazing,
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  Speaker 4: and My Monster, written with Bill Corvette, had been performed worldwide.
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  Speaker 4: As a comedian and actor. He's worked done work at
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  Speaker 4: SF Sketch Fest Jonathan cool Tons, saw you say that name, Colton,
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  Speaker 4: I'm struggling here. I got your name, no problem, Jojo Cruz,
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  Speaker 4: multiple French festivals, pop culture conventions, and a commercial with
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  Speaker 4: the Monkey from Friends, which is a true highlight of
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  Speaker 4: his career. So you have done a little bit of everything,
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  Speaker 4: and I love that. Yeah. Yeah, you're all over the
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  Speaker 4: map so originally from Minnesota. That's where the movie was shot. Correct,
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  Speaker 4: primarily Yep, love it. I have a friend who's just
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  Speaker 4: directions east of you in Wisconsin east. Yeah, you nailed it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: don't give me direct Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not a map podcast, it's a horror podcast.
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  Speaker 4: So it's all shot in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I love a
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  Speaker 4: small town setting and you know, I'd say a bottle
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  Speaker 4: bottle movie in a sense because a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: movie does play take place inside of the house, but
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  Speaker 4: once they get sucked into the DVD, then all the
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  Speaker 4: rules are out the window. I would ask you what
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  Speaker 4: inspired you to make this, but it's the movie makes
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  Speaker 4: it very clear. It's that nineties nostalgia. It's physic I
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  Speaker 4: would assume it's physical media to some extent. Is it
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  Speaker 4: safe to assume you're you're a huge fan and advocate
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  Speaker 4: for physical media?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely, a huge, huge fan of physical media. The
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  Speaker 2: love of it got in early with action figures. I'm
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  Speaker 2: of the age where you know, it grew up with
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars, but it was in the theaters and then
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't and then there's no way to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: So the way it lived is all those ideas lived
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  Speaker 2: in these physical objects that you could have in your
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  Speaker 2: hand and talk to other kids about and trade and
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  Speaker 2: all that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, I've been.
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  Speaker 2: A record collector and a book collector and a comic
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  Speaker 2: book collector, and I always loved you know, vhs and
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  Speaker 2: DVDs and all that. But it became something different in
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  Speaker 2: modern times when streaming has become so prevalent for everything,
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  Speaker 2: and we're losing that visceral connection. And I think it
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  Speaker 2: is it's affecting the way I think we process and
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  Speaker 2: talk about art. When, yeah, you know, back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: if you saw a movie in the theater, you it
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  Speaker 2: for sure is going to get a DVD release, and
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  Speaker 2: then you have it, and you look at the art
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  Speaker 2: and you watch the bonus features and maybe you get
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  Speaker 2: a poster and it lives in your life. And now,
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  Speaker 2: if you watch a movie you even love on streaming,
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  Speaker 2: right the end of that movie is give it a
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  Speaker 2: thumbs up or thumbs down right now, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to skip past the credits.
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  Speaker 3: You can't know who the game is.
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  Speaker 2: And so the message is, don't sit with this, don't
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  Speaker 2: let it sink in and become a part of your
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  Speaker 2: own mental mindscape and a part of your collection of
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  Speaker 2: what you love.
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  Speaker 3: Just consume, report, move on.
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  Speaker 2: So I think some of the physical media love is
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  Speaker 2: about what have we lost when we've lost a connection
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  Speaker 2: to the tangible in relationship to art.
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  Speaker 4: I really like that because one of my questions was
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  Speaker 4: actually kind of centered around that, is like, because the
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  Speaker 4: movie seems to convey to me at least and not
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  Speaker 4: just horror fans, but you know, sentophiles in general. But
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  Speaker 4: I feel like horror fans especially, we don't just watch
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  Speaker 4: the movies. We build memories around them. And I was
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  Speaker 4: wondering if there was like a specific time in your
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  Speaker 4: life or a specific movie night that made it into
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  Speaker 4: the DNA of this film a little bit, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, some real life stuff leading into the movie.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot of real life stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: think the genesis of this idea was, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: in the late nineties, early two thousands and kind of
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  Speaker 2: two things were happening at the same time DVDs were
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  Speaker 2: coming out, and they were just as like revolution of
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  Speaker 2: all of this information and feeling like you're in the
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  Speaker 2: driver's seat. I have you know a friend who phrased
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  Speaker 2: it as like our TVs, our computers now we can
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  Speaker 2: move arrows around. So that's happening at the same time
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  Speaker 2: that the VHS found footage is really really taking off,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Blair Witch in the Ring. And I remember
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  Speaker 2: thinking back in the day, like it's really funny to
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  Speaker 2: imagine that a DVD could ever be scary, because it
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  Speaker 2: was the VHS was now creepy and old and who
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  Speaker 2: knew what was on there and as a technology that's
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  Speaker 2: now being phased out, and the DVD was shiny and
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  Speaker 2: new and exciting and full of possibility. So I remember
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  Speaker 2: thinking about it then I'm like, that could you ever
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  Speaker 2: do like a scary DVD movie? And now that many
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  Speaker 2: years have passed, I kind of feel like anything old
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  Speaker 2: starts to get haunted and picular with DVDs. For people
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  Speaker 2: my age, they were this like real, like fresh breath
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  Speaker 2: of hope and a lot of us, like the character
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  Speaker 2: in the movie Uncle HEPPI would bullshit one another at
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  Speaker 2: the bar, like I don't even need to go to
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  Speaker 2: film school, right because I've got this screen box set
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  Speaker 2: and there's even a commentary from the production designer like I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna need to know everything I need to make a movie.
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  Speaker 2: And there was It was kind of like a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of like a hope and a dawning of a
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  Speaker 2: new age and like there's a lot to me caught
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  Speaker 2: up in the bittersweetness of that was a beautiful time.
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  Speaker 2: I do support physical media, but there is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of like the loss of like how do you love
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  Speaker 2: things from the past but still live in the future.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean we are. And it's interesting because
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel like physical media is dying because we
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  Speaker 4: have so many boutique labels at this moment putting out
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  Speaker 4: so many movies that haven't even had of like a
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  Speaker 4: home release. So I'd say we're in this weird era
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  Speaker 4: where we are getting more physical media than ever, but
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  Speaker 4: also more more people are moving towards streaming. It's this
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  Speaker 4: weird kind of split. I always will buy as many
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  Speaker 4: movies as my space will allow me, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to build new shelves here soon, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, I love collecting physical media. And what I
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  Speaker 4: loved about this movie is again I'm going to reiterate
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  Speaker 4: the fact that it's very physical media supporting, and it
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  Speaker 4: felt like it kind of felt like a misshmash of
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of The Ring with the Haunted DVD
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  Speaker 4: instead of being a DHS a little bit of The
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  Speaker 4: Final Girls how they get kind of sucked into the movie.
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  Speaker 4: So there was a lot of movies that it kind
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  Speaker 4: of had the vibes like, but it what didn't feel
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  Speaker 4: derivative by any means. I was like, this feels like
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  Speaker 4: a fresh idea using concepts that are familiar to me,
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  Speaker 4: as a horror fan, and especially with the nineteen ninety nine,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, the year of the movies from Night
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  Speaker 4: of the Lurchers that also, I was like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine, it was like a Blarwitch project came
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  Speaker 4: out that year. The Ring was close behind. So I
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  Speaker 4: love the ara you said it in and Uncle Happy
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  Speaker 4: is such a character. I should have pulled up the name.
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  Speaker 4: I'll pull it up while we're talking. He reminded me
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  Speaker 4: of the red haired guy from The Walking Dead, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, did.
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  Speaker 3: They get Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, wow, he just has a very he
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  Speaker 4: he's not but he is. He's fantastic in this and
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  Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, every actor in this was fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: One actor that stood out to me that I recognized
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, I know this guy, but
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  Speaker 4: what is he? But what is he from?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: It was Doctor Sven and I know him from like
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  Speaker 4: four episodes of the Office. He plays he plays Rolf,
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  Speaker 4: So how did you How did you get hooked up
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  Speaker 4: with him? That's just it was such a random thing
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  Speaker 4: that my brain made the connection. I was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, it's Rolf from the Office. I love him
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  Speaker 4: so much.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so James is I think one of our
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  Speaker 2: great Uh where do I know him from?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: People who really really love him. He's the voice of
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Venture on the Venture Brothers. So he had some
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  Speaker 2: like hands that are like, oh my god, we know
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  Speaker 2: exactly who James is. And then he's been you know
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  Speaker 2: on what he's in the Fableman's he's an Oppenheimer. He
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  Speaker 2: likes to tell people about He's the foot fetish guy
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  Speaker 2: in Sex and the City episode way back in the day, aging.
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  Speaker 4: Three hundred credits. I mean, the guy is like doesn't
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  Speaker 4: stop working.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently, he's a delightful nerd about acting like. He's also
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  Speaker 2: in some like like beloved like indie like New York
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  Speaker 2: indie art house drama films. So he's just he's a
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  Speaker 2: lover of acting in a student of acting. Love to
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  Speaker 2: do lots of different things. I met him doing in
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  Speaker 2: one of my many creative lives. We went around being
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  Speaker 2: a guest at various conventions and I would do some
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  Speaker 2: stand up in comedy panels. And there's a big convention
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta called Dragon Con where a bunch of us would
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  Speaker 2: come out and I met James. You know, I think
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  Speaker 2: I first met him literally on stage performing at Dragon Con,
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  Speaker 2: and then he had at the time had this podcast
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  Speaker 2: called Getting On with James Oran, where he would they're
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  Speaker 2: really detailed monologues.
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  Speaker 3: They're little radio shows.
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  Speaker 2: It's all monologues with a bunch of you know, folly
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  Speaker 2: and I wrote several of those, and he liked my
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  Speaker 2: writing and really trusted me a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So that's really cool. Sure, great, let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: Let's be in the movie. I love that so kind
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  Speaker 4: of setting the stage for the movie. Like I said,
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  Speaker 4: it's Minneapolis, Minnesota, it is October twenty third, and we
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  Speaker 4: start at seven twenty seven pm. We have three roommates
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  Speaker 4: bickering about what to watch. And that was one of
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  Speaker 4: the realist things I've seen in quite some times. Its
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  Speaker 4: like cause they're just oversaturated with shit these days. Streaming.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, well, this sounds good, but it's three you know,
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  Speaker 4: like the Six Months in Denial. Oh, that sounds great.
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  Speaker 4: It's three hours dead on Arousal. Oh it's an erotic thriller.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably gonna have a lot of sex. What was
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  Speaker 4: it the other one, Sober Virginia. That's a TV show
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  Speaker 4: that it's not. It's movie night. So that was great.
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  Speaker 4: And then they come across Night of the Lurchers, a
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  Speaker 4: movie that Maggie's uncle has been telling her about since
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  Speaker 4: she was four years old. It's a drop dead class,
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  Speaker 4: as he so aptly calls it, that came out in
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  Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine, hasn't been available for anywhere anywhere in years.
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  Speaker 4: And he used to have the DVD, uncle Heppy, but
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  Speaker 4: he lost it in a nasty breakup. So I love this.
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  Speaker 4: There's this whole little backstory.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, don't you don't, don't, don't email your uncle.
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  Speaker 4: He'll come over here in five minutes. And of course
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  Speaker 4: that's exactly what she does. And he comes over and
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna, you know, he's gonna he's gonna teach the
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  Speaker 4: whipper snappers about the importance of physical media. And so
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  Speaker 4: they don't just watch the movie. He's like, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: we got to go through the special features and you know,
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  Speaker 4: of course, oh my god, let me pull up the
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  Speaker 4: names real quick. Uh, I should have that ready to go. Maggie, right,
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  Speaker 4: Maggie is the Okay, Maggie is the that's her uncle.
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  Speaker 4: And of course she's into it, you know, she's she's
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  Speaker 4: into all of this stuff, but the roommates maybe not
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  Speaker 4: so much. One of them did have a weed lollipop though,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought that was hilarious. And then he passes out.
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  Speaker 4: But he's like, we gotta watch the special features. And
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  Speaker 4: then it turns into this whole thing where everyone leaves
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  Speaker 4: besides Uncle, Hep and Matt, and he's like, you don't
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  Speaker 4: even know the drama behind this movie. And he goes
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  Speaker 4: into all the people that died about behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 4: like the cameraman who fell broke seven bones and died
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  Speaker 4: of sepsis. I nearly spit out my drink when that happened.
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  Speaker 4: I laughed so hard. And then doctors Finn had a
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: heart attack. The last day of Principle, the EP croaks
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  Speaker 4: because of an allergic reaction to a craft service as cookie.
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  Speaker 4: And then Rita Nas the director has vanished and no
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  Speaker 4: one has seen her since. And then he goes on
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  Speaker 4: to say, you know, rumor is, if you can solve
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  Speaker 4: the mystery, or if you can find the Easter egg
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  Speaker 4: in the in like the hidden menu, you can solve
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  Speaker 4: the mystery of the curse of Night of the Lurchers.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of where I'll leave you story wise,
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  Speaker 4: because after that they get sucked into the movie and
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  Speaker 4: it just it goes crazy. And that's what I love
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  Speaker 4: about being kind of sucked into a movie is all
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  Speaker 4: the rules are off the table. You can do whatever
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  Speaker 4: the heck you want. And it might be like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it was a little confusing at times, but I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just having so much fun with this, Like I'm
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  Speaker 4: having so much fun because there are no rules at
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  Speaker 4: this point, is on the table, and I think it
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  Speaker 4: was just like what you did creatively inside the house
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  Speaker 4: and what you did with the doors and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I found it to be just incredibly, incredibly engaging, especially
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  Speaker 4: for about about an hour forty But I really really
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed it. And I'm gonna champion this movie once it
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  Speaker 4: comes out, and be sure I recommend it. So let's see,
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  Speaker 4: like how long what was the what's the question I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking for here? But how long was the shoot for this,
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  Speaker 4: for the whole for the whole movie? How many days
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  Speaker 4: are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, the money is tight, so that
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  Speaker 2: dictates time. So we shot the whole thing in fourteen
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  Speaker 2: days and then I did a day.
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  Speaker 3: And a half of pickups.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so it was a great cast and crew
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  Speaker 2: who moved fast because they had to, and you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's a great it's a great challenge. The film
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: is complicated and they're lot of moving parts, and there
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: were only truly two people who understood what was happening,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and that was me and the script supervisor, who did
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a really great job.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: And I thought there were more.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I thought there were more people in the cast and
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: crew who like, we totally follow everything. And then some
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: people told me after we had a premiere in Minneapolis, like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, now, I didn't understand.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: But what was really cool because we shot it out
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: of order and it's that makes it really confusing. Oh,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: but it was a really great experience because it meant
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: that there was a lot of trust given to me
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people were just like, I trust
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that you know what's going on and talk through what
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: are the needs for practical effects in this moment, what
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: are the needs for the actors, what are the needs
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: for the camera movement. It was a lot of trust
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: and that that made it a really really good experience.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: That's always good too, especially when you have a good,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: tight crew. You know, I mean, it was maybe four
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: or five people at a time. And what I really
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: enjoyed too about it all is it you know, you're
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: going through the house, so I mean you had a house,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: and then where did you shoot everything else that was
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: not at the house.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: It was that just a is a theater in Minneapolis
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: called the Crane Theater that had lots and lots of
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: different spaces. So it was you know, I'm pretty ready
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to go, not a lot of dressing, need some good lighting.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, that's one of the one
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: of the highlights of this movie, I would say, is
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: the is the lighting. I love a movie with a
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: great aesthetic. If anyone listening has seen a Joe Bagos movie,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: uh Christmas, Bloody Christmas vvfw bliss, he has just phenomenal lighting.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: It's this neon soaked landscape. And that is exactly what
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: I felt like. You were tapping into great lighting, a
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: lot of fun colors and with certain effects too. The
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: lighting is from the I say this all the time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: The one short movie I did, I realized how tough
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: lighting was, and for you to pull off lighting successfully
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: with all of those colors is a feed in its own,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: especially working inside of a house, because you never know
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: how reflective something is until you try to light till
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: you try to light a scene there and you're like, shit,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: this is all reflecting everything.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: There's lots and lots of little bits of tape in
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: various paintings to adjust the exact angle of how much
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: they're popping out from shot to shot. Yeah, I mean,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I think, I think if anybody is interested themselves in directing,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: or like you said, you're working on a short film,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I think, just get.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: A camera and play yourself. Then you start to realize
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: what the challenges are.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And like for myself, the way that I managed to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: do this was I took on everything that I possibly
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: could that's in my skill set, so I had enough
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: money to hire the people to do the things that
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I absolutely could not do. And like, you know, I'm
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: teaching myself more and more about the camera, but like, yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I'm the writer, director, producer. I'm not going to be
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: carrying the camera around and trying to shoot it myself too.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: So you know, my friend Matia Schubert, who's a fantastic cinematographer,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and he has a team that he works with, so
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: they have a go to language gaffer's name is Joe
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Eskendell and he's They do lots.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Of indie films. They do lots of the short films.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Joe worked for a long time as a gaffer on
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: The Walking Dead. So these are like dudes who are
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: like in the trenches and can move fast and to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: know all the problems. They can walk into a space
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and go, oh, he wants to do, you know, a shot,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: reverse shot, and he wants the camera to move here,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and here's the eight problems that are going to happen.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And they know and they know how to get ahead
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: of them, you know. And I think that is something
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that I think I had great clarity of what I wanted,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and they had great clarity of how to make it happen.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: How to make it work. Yeah, because Matthias also worked
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: on Satanic Hispanics too, which is a great I had
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: all those guys on Sanchez Oh nice, Yeah, on an
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: episode last year, Mike Mendez. The only one I couldn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: get was a Gigi because she was busy. But yeah,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: he worked on that movie. And you know that movie
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: looks great as well. So I love that you had
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like you knew what you wanted and
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: they knew how to make it happen. That it's the
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: perfect combination to get a movie done. But you're right.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately, if you want to make movies, it
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: is doing a short, figuring out what you're good at,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and figuring out who you need to hire stuff for.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Because for my whole life, I've always had a camera
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: in my hands, whether you know, whether it was the
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: giant you know VHS freaking huge thing I had to
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: put on my shoulder that my parents had or my
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: dad's digital camera. I was always shooting stuff. I was
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: always editing it on whatever I had in early two
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: thousands probably was very very terrible program putting into music.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm gonna you know, I'll shoot,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I'll edit the short. And then I found out I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: do not want to edit. No, that is that is
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: not for me. I do not want to light. So yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I think you're one hundred percent correct with that. If
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: you're interested in doing this, you have to start doing
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: as many things as if you think you can do,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: and then you'll realize how much like I'm I'm comfortable
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: behind the camera, I can get the shot you need
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: for sure. Editing no, I'm going to high editing. Editing
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: is not fun. And you did you edit this one?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I did, and and and it's it's one of my
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: favorite parts of the process because it's the part where
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: it's becoming real. Right, you know, you're writing it as
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a script, and the script, you know, needs to be
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: really solid, but the script still is what if it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: very malleable, it could change on the day when you're
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: shooting it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It can change a lot.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: When you're editing it, it needs to be solid in
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a roadmap. And then when you're shooting it, you know, uh,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: there's all the creative responsibilities, but you're the director too,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and you're you're responsible for we got to move on.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And how much you know, how much stress is like
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: literally like the position that the camera operators are holding
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: that camera, and like how much stresses that put it
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: on their body. So you're balancing like the real practical
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: with the real artistic. And so for me, there's this
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: bliss when you get into the editing of like the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: only person's body that I might be abusing is myself
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: punching over my laptop. And and so you can try
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and you know you you are burning time and sometimes
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: like physical limits to go. Let me try this eighty
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: seven different ways until I find the way that's exactly perfect.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: But when you're editing, you can try it eighty seven
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: different ways. And for me, like, I love that freedom.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: One of the other million things I've done is my
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: dad taught me to play the drums when I was
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a kid, and I think there's something about like the Okay,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I'll get to play the drums, and there's something about
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the editing that's it's it's like playing the drums.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: It's it's like comedy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: It's it's rhythm, you know, And so that's really really
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: fun when you nail something, when it's like that is
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the exact frame that it should go boom, it's really fun.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Oh Okay, first of all, let's back up drummer as well. Okay,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: probably since I was in eighth grade, so good lord
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: math twenty five years ago. So yes, I loved I've
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: been drumming ever since, and I agree with you. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: think that's one thing that drummers are good at obviously,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: is you have to hold the rhythm. And that's my
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: that's one of my strong points in editing is musical
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: cues and when to switch, like when to cut to
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: the next thing. I'm great doing that, But I also
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: think since this was the first project we didn't get
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: we didn't roll a lot of stuff with sound because
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: we're like, well, just eighty R it. Later we're always
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: be rolling sound. I don't care, always roll, so that
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I think that was the biggest issue.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a lot.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm having to fill all these scenes with
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: ady R and sound effects, and so I think that's
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: why maybe I'm not liking the editing process because of
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you know, it was we didn't know what we were doing.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: It's a it's like an eleven minute short, and I
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: was like, all right, we're gonna have to do things
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: differently when we do the next one. But speaking speaking
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: of short films, you did too before you did your
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: this is your first feature, So kind of walk me
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: through the process of doing your because you did both
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: of those in twenty twenty three at least according to IMDb,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: and then two years later you do do this. So
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: what was the transition from doing a couple of shorts
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: going into making a horror movie?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like we mentioned a couple of times, I've
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: done lots of different things and was really like, I
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: want to pick something to focus on. So about twenty
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: twenty two is like what I really want to do
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: is film, And like I had had some okay to
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: bad experiences having other people film stuff that I wrote,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and it's just like it's kind of just always putting
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it off kind of thing. So it's like, Okay, I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: gonna make some short films. And like those are the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: two that I made like sort of professionally, like hired
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you know, all of all the super pros to get
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: lighting good and sound design and sound editing and all that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: But I made some stuff with my phone.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I I made a love Craftian short just like on
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: my laptop of a guy doing a YouTube video that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: goes into Cuthulu existential dreads called Unboxing the Cosmos that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: on It's all on my website YouTube. And I just
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: had so much fun because I was able to do
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: stretch so many different muscles from writing to acting to
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: doing some of the sound design myself, and just it
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: was so fulfilling. Yeah, and then I was out took
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: these two out on the short film or the film
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: festival circuit. It was real, real fun, but it was
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: fulfilling artistically to go and share those shorts with people.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Sure, but.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: You know, to make a career of it, to make
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: money of it. Like, there's no guarantee that a feature
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: film will make money, but there's a pretty big guarantee
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that you will never ever make money on a short film.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: He will just spend lots and lots of money. Yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: applying to film festivals, flying to it, having a great time,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: meeting folks who might help you down the road and
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you might help them down the road. There's nothing bad
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: about it. But when I'm looking at like, Nope, this
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: is going to be my career. I'm going to make
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: as many films as I can before I die. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: am going to make a feature as soon as I
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: possibly can. And you know, with an acceptance of like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I'll figure some things out. Some things will be hard,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: but like it was a real like a leap of
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: faith in making it happen.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually, I'm just wondering, especially because the like I said,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: the story, it's not that it gets complicated. It's just
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that you, like, like I said, logic goes out the
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: window and you have to you got to keep up.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: And it's it's what I found fulfilling about it is.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I was like I had some question, Okay, well what
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: about this? And then later in the movie I got
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that answer to it, and I was like, I was like, oh, perfect.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, you you gave me the explanation. Because
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: some things I was like, all right, I can't we
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: need we need something for that and I don't want
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to spoil it. But there was two instances and they
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: got answered later in the movie, and I was like, oh,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: that's perfect, Okay, I love that.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I would say also like, there are
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of ideas in the film, and I wanted
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: to build it to be like, hey, if you just
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: want to like sit down and you know, if you're
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the drinking type, you know, throw back a few beers
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: with some buddies, that it'd be fun. But if you're like, wait,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I really like that, I want to watch that again,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: that there would be more to discover if you wanted
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to go back and go like, I'm okay, I'm gonna
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: really look in the nooks and the crannies and of
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: this this thing visually and the ideas, and there's also
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: some stuff in there that I just I really like
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: films that that raise questions but don't necessarily offer all
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of the answers. Oh yeah, and that can be real subjective,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: But you know, I really like questioning. Well wait a minute,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: where do we get this information? Yeah, because some horror movies,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: especially like traditional ones, like you know, I'm a big
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: fan of the universal horror movies, and like, well, whatever
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Van Helsing says is right, you know, yeah, and whatever
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the actor who plays Bean Helsing and ed Van Slowan
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and other universe of films, whatever you said about the Mummy,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: that's correct, it's true, right, But you know, it's stories
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and cinema develops. I love getting into like yeah, we
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: all heard that and we recognize that's exposition, but which
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: character said that and when and why?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And I get to decide whether that is true?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, No, it's a lot of fun.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: And that's what I think the rewatchability with this movie.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: That's got high rewatchability, because if I don't understand, if
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I don't fully understand the movie, I'm gonna rewatch it,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna rewatch it until I can make sense
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: of it. Except for a Christopher Nolan movies, I'm never
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: gonna fucking understand I'm just never gonna understand inception. It's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: never gonna happen. Uh But you know, the the rewatchability
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: is there. It's it's funny, it's got a there's there's
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of good jokes in this movie. There's a
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: lot of good horror elements. I love the look of
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: the lurchers themselves.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: They feel kind of like romero esque in a way,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: maybe maybe because of the black and white, but they're
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: also oozing out you know, green black. I don't know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I couldn't exactly tell the color, but it's just dark,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: this dark syrupy substance. Which what was that, by the way,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: let me just figure out what that was? What was
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the stuff that was pouring out of their mouths, like
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Hershey's syrup or something?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Uh there, yeah there, I think it was a mix
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of Hershey's and some lot lots of corn syrup.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: There's a great, great team you in base in Minneapolis
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: called out Post thirty one. Ryan and Becky are their
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: human names, and they do a lot of great work. Well,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's on your radar. They made Frogman, not
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the movie, but Frogman himself.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Oh then, yeah, okay, I was gonna say, almost thirty
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: one sounds very familiar. So yeah, frog yeah, frog yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And they know there's that weird deviation in ownership of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth versus Jason, and they worked on the
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: short that it was produced by Sweet Orchard.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, okay, yeah, that's probably how I know
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the name.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Then okay, got yeah, yeah, so they did a fantastic
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: job they did.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a great collaboration.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: And you know, I come from a theater background, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of the actors are old theater pals from Minneapolis,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and so for me, I really love the idea of like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: let's do practical makeup and maybe some have some fun
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: in the editing, but for the most part, this is
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: this is the actors.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: This is yeah, you know, I love your guys.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: This is them, letting them make a transformation and I
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and I was really happy with how it trimmed out.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I went into the completely blind, by the way,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: because I you know, I hadn't heard of it. So
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and that's usually what I do if I don't know
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: the movie, I'll just go into a blind So I had, yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I had no idea what was going on, and you know.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Then the movie doesn't hold your hand, but it gives
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you the information you need. And I was like, oh, okay,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: so we're like gonna watch an old movie. What's gonna
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: you know, what's gonna happen? Are they you know? And
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: then then when they get sucked into the movie, I
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: was like, oh okay, I'm that's I was like, I'm
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I'm into all of this. This is this is so
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: fun because chaos and sues. Like I said, rules are
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: off the table. You could do whatever you want. And
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: they're just blipping in and out of these different parts
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: of the movie and you know the special it's it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: such a fun time. So a question about kind of
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: the nostalgia of everything in this movie is I guess
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: with horror fans, since this is a horror movie, wondering
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: do you think horror you know, do you think horror
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: fans are nostalgic for the movies themselves or who they
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: were when they first watched them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I think a little bit of both, but maybe more
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of the second.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's where I'm at, to be perfectly honest
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: of like, yeah, and I think that's a lot of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: what this film hinges on of you know, you know
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you're you're saying at the beginning is relatable when they're
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: trying to pick the film and it's frustrating and it
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: drains you of energy. And yet we all talk so
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: romantically about going to a video store.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: And having the same bleeping conversation.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can swear on this podcast,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you can swear having the same fucking conversation, right, it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the same thing.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: You go down the aisle and you go, well, what
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: do we want this? Kids can't be too long? Does
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the dog guy? We can't do it?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: You're like, it's the same conversation. Yeah, but it was
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: fun and wonderful when it was a night out and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: we went to a physical location and we were with
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: our friends ends, And I think the films have quality.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: You know, you can you can show a kid John
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Carpenter is the thing on iPad and you know, a
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: fourteen year old go awesome movie, right, But I think
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: for a lot of other folks would be like, we
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: rented it at the video store with my older brother
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and that was the night that you know, Sheila decided
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to come over and watch her first horror movie with us. Ever,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: and now she's got a horror podcast and she's fifty now,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and like, all those memories from going to that third
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: space get baked into our love of the film. So
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I think it is a love of the film, but
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I think it is also a love of, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: some a bigger experience and a more palpable human connection experience.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I bring that up because of that moment where when
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: you know, when Maggie says, you know, what did you see,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and she's like, I saw nineteen ninety nine. You know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: it's just the look in his eyes of like the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: nostalgia he was feeling for the time. So I was like, oh,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I wonder, you know, it just it just made me one,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: you know, like horror fans, it is for me. I
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: think it is a little bit of both because subjectively,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: you know, there are some movies out there I know
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: aren't good, but I like them because of the nostalgia
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I have growing up with them, you know. So it's
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: like I like them for the memories that I have
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: with them when I was that age, and yeah, they
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: might not be great, but they hold a special place,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: you know, in my heart.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I also just think there's something about when you're a kid,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you're not full of the questions. Like when
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: we watch a movie now, you know, it can be
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: hard to get rid of the checklist of like, well,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: did Christopher Nolan do things I agree with or disagree with?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Did he break this camera rule? You know?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Like, and I think there's something so pure about seeing
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: a movie that when we're kids, that a movie that like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: maybe would not get great reviews and maybe you wouldn't
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: like as much as an adult, but there was something
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: in it, yeah that would you know, you just didn't
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: question it because you're just engaging with the story, not
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: who made this?
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Do I agree with them? Do they make mistakes? You know?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: So I kind of love when people love a movie
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: when they're a kid, even if it's like deeply flawed film, Yeah,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: because there's something in it that made kid us gravitate
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: towards that one and not other ones.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Well, this is right on power for not only that thought,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: that train of thought, but the year was the year
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: was nineteen ninety nine, and I went to see The
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Phantom Menace as a nine year you know, as a
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: nine year old. Yeah, and I was like, this movie
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: fucking rocks, And I watch it and I watch it now,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, why do I care about the trade
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Federation that I don't care about any of this stuff. Sure,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: the Lightsabers are cool, but it's not that great of
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: a movie. So yeah, you're right. It's like you make
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: this connection as a kid because you're just like, oh,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: this is so cool, all the space stuff and blah
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: blah blah, And as an adult you're like, this plot
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: really isn't making much sense. And yeah, especially especially for
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: me as a podcaster and you know, aspiring filmmaker, I'm
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: working on it. I it's hard to turn that off
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: when I watch movies, you know, like do I like
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: the way they frame that shot? Or you know, is
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: the coloring too, because a lot of the color grading
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: nowadays is just the same thing over and over. It's
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: it's just redundant. So when I watch a movie like
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: yours and I see this cozy little house in Minnesota
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, lurchers are in the house
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: and there's blue and yellow or blue and purple lighting
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: and red, It's like, this is this is what I
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: love about indie filmmaking because you have I feel like
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: you just have so much more creative liberty and for
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: some reason, when you have less time and less money,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you ultimately put out a better product. It's just it
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense, but that's what I've heard. Like
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: some people who have all the time and all the money,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: they start doing too much as opposed to you, as
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: opposed to doing it in fourteen days. You're like, we
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: gotta get this done or else we're screwed. You give
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: it your all. And everyone that is involved in an
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: indie film wants to be there. They have a passion
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: for it. So that's what I enjoy so much about
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: indie films. Is there a piece of dead media quote
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: that you refuse to let die? Like a VHS laser
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: disc cassette CDs? You know, For I have a few VHS,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: so I guess that would be like the one thing
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I refuse to let die. You know, I've got a
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: couple that are hanging around. What about you?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have. I have lots of non death
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: in my apartment.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Well, my wife and I live in a pretty small
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: one bedroom apartment in Hollywood, And you know we're getting
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: down to there's there's a thin walking path between the
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: records and the books and the action figures and the
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Blu rays and the DVDs. Yeah, so yeah, there's stuff
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that is, you know, really close to my heart. I'm
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a big Twin Peaks fan, and you know, back in
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: the day before you could get lots of like the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: complete series, it was like one hundred bucks at the time.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I think it was ninety three, maybe ninety four.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: They put out season one and two, and you know
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: in retrospect that the VHS quality is terrible because they
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: were packing like six forty two minute episodes per VHS tape,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: and it's it looks like somebody just spilled orange on
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: all of Twin Peaks.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You know, it's uh oh, but.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: God loved it because it was the first time that
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: it could be like I own the whole thing, except.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: The pilot because of rights issues, but yeah, I owned
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: So that that's one that's really close to my heart.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I still have the first record that my brother and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I bought. My dad said like, okay, here's you know whatever.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: It was then three dollars. You can go to the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: record store and you can pick one record and it
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: can be your first record. Like I still have it
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: in my apartments. I can still spin it whenever I want.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah I have. I mean, DVD is actually thriving
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: more than Blu Ray and four K, which is quich
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: is crazy. I find that wild that DVD is still around,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: because like that's a whole other conversation. But I still
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: have the first DVD I ever bought. I remember when
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: to Beast Buy was, you know, like DVD had just
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: come out and the players were like five hundred dollars
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: or whenever they were picked out. Ace Venture Ap had
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: detective in the in the snap case that I still
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: have to this day and we'll never get rid of
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: because I was like, that was the first DVD that
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I ever bought.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: So nice.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the first one I bought was the Scream
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: box set. Okay, all three movies.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's credible, that's incredible.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: And actually actually just picked up that the Twin Peaks
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: whole whole collection because I had never seen it. I'm nice. Yeah,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: to make I'll make make this a short story. Last
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: year we did a horror movie from nineteen seventy five
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: all the way up to twenty twenty five, one per
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: week for the you know, so fifty years of Horror.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: So we started seventy five and went to twenty twenty five,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and then I watched Eraserhead. I realized I had never
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: seen a David Lynch movie in my life ever. Wow,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: and he's only done really about thirteen or fourteen actual
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: full length, full length film.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even less than It's ten ten okay.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So you know, I've been going slowly through
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: his because I don't want to I don't want to
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: rush it because I'm like, I have very limited David lynchstein.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: And I just got to Twin Peaks and watched seasons
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: one and two, so now I'm going to do fire
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Walk with Me and stuff like that. But yeah, like
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Eraser Had, I fell in love that movie immediately. I
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: was like, that was the weirdest movie I've ever seen.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Ten out of ten. No notes, let's go to the
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: next David Lynch. I'm going to get through all of
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: his somog. I'm skipping over Dune because that wasn't his,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: you know, like original idea.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: He hit it taken away from him and.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll go back to that one.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: But really fun.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's he's became one of my favorite directors
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: and just watching him behind the scenes and all the
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: interviews he does. He's great. Uh So if you had,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: you know, if this happened to you, right, if if
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: you were in this movie, what is a horror movie
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: or horror DVD that you would want to get brought into?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's that's such an interesting question because it's because
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: do you go there like what what film do I like?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: But I think I can survive?
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, anyway any way you want just for just
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: for like a third party observer, just for the vibes
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: or or something like. Any way you want to answer it,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: You know what, Okay, I'll go this way because this
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: is this is one of my favorites. I really like
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Jennifer's body. I think I'm really glad that it's had
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: a resurgence, you know that it I will, I will
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: answer your question, but to go the long way around,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of times folks ask me like what movies.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Were inspired by?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: For Dead Media, and I just really try to be like,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I just want to make the movie I want to make.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then some things.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get affected by because I'm marinated in screaming
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: David Lynch and Cohen Brothers and Universal monsters and the
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: things I love the most are just going to come
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: out right. And then after the fact, other folks like
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: you are like, hey, it reminds me of this movie.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Like great, I'll write it down because I actually haven't
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: seen that movie and I had seen Jennifer's Body, but
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: like I was getting into the point where the movie
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: was done, I was talking about people about, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: marketing it, and you know, there's this there's this kind
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: of uncomfortable like I think if you're talking to a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: lot of film heads, you're like, well, it's it's it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: an ambitious, wonderful gold tried to make something unique, right,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you should be proud if you make something unique, And
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: like I finished it, it's like.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's pretty unique. And then I started thinking
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: about marketing. It's like, you know, fuck, I made something unique.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Because the easiest path to marketing is it's a funny
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: zombie movie.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: It's just like Shana the Dead. Great.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Now, now everybody knows their marchining orities to how to
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: go sell it, right, So when I was racking.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: My brain of like, what what movie is it?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Like, it's like it's not thematically because Jennifer's Body is
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: very much a movie about perspectives on being a woman
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: and the way women get treated and about their appearances
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and about their own empowerment and all that. So it's
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: not the same themes, but for me like the tone
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: of like it's funny, but it's dark, and it's dealing
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: with pop culture things that are like surface level that's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: really funny and interesting, but tapping into other ideas. It's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: also based in the Midwest. Yeah, it is so yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: So I've been thinking about Jennifer's Body a lot, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: rewatched it a couple of times, and it's it's so good.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I love it so much.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I would love to be in that because
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I think I would notice stay away from Jennifer. I
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: would I'm I'm too old and happily married to fall
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: for that bullshit. Uh, And that I could hang out
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: in the Midwest and and try to help save some folks.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I love that. That is, you know, That's that's a
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: great answer, because I'm gonna start asking you know, some
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: of my friends this question because this is the first
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: You're the first person I've asked us. But now now
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: that I've seen the movie, I'm like, I want to
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: ask this question uh, and tell them about dead media.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: So that's that is not the answer I thought I
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: was gonna get, and I absolutely love it. Now. On
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: the flip side of that, what do you think the
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: worst horror movie to be caught in would be? Not
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: necessarily in terms of quality, but like, let's let's go
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: with like surviving for this one. Yeah, which one do
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: you think would be the worst for your survival to
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: be trapped in?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: A big fan of the original Halloween, I think, you know,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: really any of the Halloween movies, but yeah, especially you know, yeah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: right now, there isn't really any such thing as the
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: final middle aged dude.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm dying, you know.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And I love Michael Meyers the most when he is
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: an unknowable killing machine. And you know, the new trilogy
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that came out, like it took some big swings and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I appreciated that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: But what I really liked the.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Way they handled Michael of like the he's unknowable and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: he's walked down the street killing everybody.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that twenty eighteen kind of requell whatever you want
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: to call it, I thought was honestly a brilliant film.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I've come to enjoy the second and third ones for
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: different reasons, Like I like what they were trying to do.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: I feel David Gordon Green somehow managed to capture the
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: same audience reactions to the original trilogy, intentional or not.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: If you you know, like if you go back and
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: look at the title cards for one, two, and three
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: from the you know from seven to eighty two and
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: then the remakes, they have the same exact fonts for
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: each one, and they all got about the same response.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Everyone seems to hate Halloween ends, uh, and everyone really
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: hated Halloween three those Michael Myers and it she we
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: get it, dude, go watch it if that if that
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: wasn't associated with Halloween, if it was just Season of
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: the Witch, people would have loved it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: But Yeah, weirdly enough, he almost got like the same
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: audience reaction out of Yeah. So again, intentional or not,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that he somehow managed to pull that off,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I really it's it's interesting.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I think he's really fascinating because like obviously he was
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: aware of it because he did the title cards, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I think he's had a couple of interviews talking about
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: like the thematic similarities of you know what's at stake
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: in those films versus what's at sake in his two
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and three.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's that fascinating. He's like, were you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he wanted super successful films that everybody loved,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: but we're also just doing a social science expert of like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: because I replicate audience reactions because.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: They're gonna make money, and they all made stupid amounts
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: of money. It's a Halloween movie, Like, it doesn't matter,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: they're gonna make money. So it's almost like I feel
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: like he did it intentionally because he knew they were
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: gonna make money. I mean, they made enough off the
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: first twenty eighteen to pay for two and three. So yeah,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: so yeah, okay, so definitely the worst movie to be
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: trapped inside. I would agree. Michael is a unstoppable you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: he's I love you know, I love me some Jason.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: You can see him back here. But as long as
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not at camp, I'm pretty safe or in Manhattan,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like space, you know.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: So those are the only three locations.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Exactly, So I you know, I think I'm gonna be
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: good there. Uh, kind of shifting toward more about the
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: movie itself, I'd really love to know. This is something
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I always ask directors or anybody involved in film. Was
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: there a scene in particular that you thought was gonna
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: be in and outward done that wound up just taking
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: way too long? M Oh yes, I always get a yes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like batting a thousand with getting a
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: yes for that.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, yes, yeah, there's a there was there's a
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: a scene. I'm not gonna say what it is, you'll know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but there there there's a scene where where Happy retrieved
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: something he wants. Yeah, yes, that. Uh So that was
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the second day of shooting. The first day of shooting,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you know, we did a lot of set up at
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: the theater and we got some stuff that was like
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: really great and but lots of little bits and pieces,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: little pickups, and everybody entered the first day like real happy,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: like yeah. And then the second day we did this
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: scene which was for any film like it was. It
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: was complicated, practical effects, lots of different things were paying
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: attention to camera angles. We had to do camera angles
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: we couldn't do. And uh I say this with like
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: great love and understanding for for crew and cast. They
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: read the script, they think about what they need to
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: do they think about this, and that it was a
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: second day where how complex this was for an indie
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: dawned on everybody, and so like I'm walking through the
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: blocking for the actors and for the camera and the monsters,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: and there was just kind of like this oh shit
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: moment across the room of like we all read it,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: but we didn't. So we have to do all that
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: in like three three hours. And so that one was
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: stressful because it was the day the dime dropped, and
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: there was a little bit of like oh fuck, but
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: everybody did it and it got easier and easier. The
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: next day wasn't even more complicated, seeing and everybody's like, okay, great,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: now we know what we're doing and we're on it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: So that was day two. You said, mm hmm, okay, yeah,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: and this is gonna be this is gonna be kind
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: of a call out to the next because I already
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: recorded another interview with some directors that'll be out later
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: in what month that's gonna be out the end of July,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: out at the end of August, and their day one
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: was your day too, and I'm just like, oh man,
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, we're gonna just give up. We can't
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: do this where.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: We've lost a location.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, my goodness, so that's rough. Y.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Any any actors that surprised you by bringing something completely
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: different to the character than you imagine, like from you know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: from from script to screen. Anybody that kind of just
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: just came into their own and just really gave you
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: something you were not expecting.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, like I said, a lot of the older actors,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: like anyone thirty five and above is pretty much an
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: old friend of mine. So and a couple of rolls
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: were written for them, so they great great, And I knew.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I knew Sam Lanman, who plays the uncle, would knocket
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: out of the park.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: He's so good. He's so good.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Oh but he's really really good.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: He's really he's a really charming dude himself, and very
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: self effacing and does not like taking kudos, like too bad,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna say, maybe you have to take something.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: You'll have to take something.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: You'll have to give me his email so I can
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: just be like, hey, by the way, you were great
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: this movie. I love you.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I'll do it.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: So then some of the younger people, the roommates in particular,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I just went to Minneapolis early because I live in
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: La now and put out casting call through all the
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: major various theater contacts. And the two other roommates besides
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: the main character, Maggie, Brenda and Daniel hadn't done any
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: on camera before really.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: And they were both great.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: But the larger role is of Brenda and an actor
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: named Jessica Fenton. So the Brenda character is sort of
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: like the the other four son Maggie's shoulder, because got
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the uncle going like, you don't have to do anything
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: with your life, just have fun and watch.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Movies with me forever.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I wrote Brenda's this but Jesus
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: counterbalance of like you should get your life together, go go, go,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: go for it movement, let's go, let's go, let's go.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, and I knew it was a challenge
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: because on the page she's kind of harsh and can
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: come off as just like a joy Kill And so
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: like every prease and I audition is like, I know
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: you could read her on the pages of Joykill, But
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: she's just a person who's like, to me, doing your
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: laundry and getting your taxes in on time is fun.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: That's just her perspective. It doesn't mean she's a joykill
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: or an annoying asshole. And I was really worried about it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And Jessica just has so much charm and like just
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: like a flare in her physicality, and she just brought
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: all that warmth to the role that she doesn't come
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: off at all is like a buzzkill.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: No, not at all.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: So that was just like, that was like such a gift.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: And since then, Jessica had a ton of fun doing
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: the film. So she's moved to Los Angeles and we've
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: made a couple of short films together, amazing on my YouTube.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that that was a real great discovery
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: for both of us.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: That's incredible. And she also just has magical hair.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, she does.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: The second I saw like her INDB photo with all
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: the curly hair, I was like, magical ten out of ten.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: That powerful hair.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: Interesting. Yeah, that she had never I I mean I looked,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: I saw that this was the only thing she did.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: But watching the movie, I you, not only doing one
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: thing never would have crossed my radar at all. She
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: would have. She seems like she had been doing this
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: for a few years at least, So that's incredible. So
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: what drew her to audition? Did she just is she
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: just wanted to jump into acting? Is that?
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Well so she she was an actor certainly, but she
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: hadn't done any any on cameras. So she done theater,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: dance and all that, but hadn't done on camera. And
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: somebody it was really a happenstance of like I had,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I had some auditions and I had some possibilities, but
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: not the person I was we're looking for. And I
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: mentioned it to my friend and another person overheard me
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: is like, I know a bunch of young people. Do
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you want me to email a bunch of young people?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: That's like, sure, email a bunch of young people. And
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I gotten email from Jessica and was like, I would
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like to audition for your movie, Like cool, do you
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: have a resume or a headshot at all? And she's
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: like sure and sent it to me and came in
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: and was just fantastic.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know, I.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Think I think there's a lot of stuff that you
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: can prepare for film, and you should, but a lot
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: of it is just it's just jumping off a cliff
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: again and again and go and trusting that you and
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: the people helping you will find a way to land.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think that's an important thing to
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: reinforce because you know, some of our pop culture to
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: talking landscape can you know, it's it's all algorithm, right,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: but it can become such a gotcha of like did.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: They plan like well.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: As much as they could, but you know, Cosa Blanca
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: was a fucking mess behind the scenes. So planning is important.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: But also frankly, like the guts to leap off the
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: cliff and figure out how to land on the way
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: down is a big part of filmmaking too.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you really have to roll with the punches on
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of things because you know there's something that
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: you could be like like on paper, yeah, this is easy,
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And then I'm sitting in my garage trying to get
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: one shot for an hour and a half, like, all right,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: I guess we're doing this night. So yeah, it's it's
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: the whole filmmaking process I find fascinating. And we're you know,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: we're going to be pursuing more down the road when
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: we have time. It's you know, I'm me and my
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: wife just we love horror movies movies in general, but
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: horror movies especially and that's what you know, I can
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: tell that there's just heart and passion behind this movie,
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: and that's ultimately what what works for me when you
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: have this kind of out there idea. You know, this
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: is an out there idea, not in a bad way,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: but there's just so much passion. Everyone there looks like
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: they're having such a great time. I love that the
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Lurchers kind of explode into this dust like is that
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: what was going on? It was like this dusty kind
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: of like ooze some dustin news. Yeah, it's just you
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: just had so much fun with it from from top
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: to bottom. I mean I was, I was, I was
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: locked in the whole time. I was. It was a
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: great time. And regards to making uh, you know, what
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: did you what did you hope to accomplish? You know
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: when this movie was done, Like, what was your what
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: did you hope to accomplish regarding how people's react? Like
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: people's reaction or were you trying to any sort of
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: message you were trying to get across outside of like
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: advocating for physical media.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you had. Yeah. I think.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: For me, you know, it's always important, I think to
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: be aware of this awkward relationship between the art and
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: the business that you know, if you you have artistic
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: goals and then you have business goals. And obviously I
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: want the film to find its people and for it
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: to do really well, that would be that would be fantastic.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: But in terms of the art, uh it it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I think it is a fun film, and I think
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of funny stuff, But it didn't like
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: sit down and go I'm gonna do a horror comedy.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, lots of are going to call it
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: a horror comedy because it's got a lot of laughs,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: and that's totally cool with me. But for me, it
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of the there's that Carrie Fisher
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: quote of a take your broken heart and make it art,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: And for me, it's like I want to live in
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the present because just living in the past is no good.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: But I love so much from the past, and I
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: catch myself just you know, some of the things happy
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: he says about ninety nine, like that's just literally my life.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: That's literally the car I owned, that's literally in the
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: street I drove down, that's literally you know. So a
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: part of it for me was really like I want
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: to help myself and maybe other people who are feeling
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: stuck in life process, you know, the bittersweet of it,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: in the pain of it, and try to move forward.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And I love films like you know, I remember, I
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: remember the first time I saw Pulp Fiction, and it's
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Pulp Fiction is a great movie.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And I think it is a just like it's stylish
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: and it's fun, and it's sexy, and it's got, it's got,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: it's got all the things on the tin that you know,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: especially in ninety four, a movie was supposed to have
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: of like it's funny, it's sexy, it's high tension, it's
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: a crime drama, it's you know, got violence, you know,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: all these things. So you could sit down almost anybody
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: and watch Pulp Fiction and go great, But there was
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: so much else going on and like I love kind
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: of the themes and ideas. Like I watched it, it's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: like this is a meditation on nonviolence. Because the dude
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: who walks away it's great, right, the dude who refuses
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: is you know, live by it's a live by the sword,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: die by the sword message.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember in ninety four being like that's
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: what I love. I love that on the surface it
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: invites as many people as possible in. But if you're
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: the kind of guy like me who wants to go like, ooh,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna write an essay in my head about this,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: what's the essay that there's something there for those kinds
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: of folks?
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Too very succinct answer. I love that. Yeah, that's that's
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: kind of what I was thinking. Ish uh yeah, because
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I also think this movie is gonna appeal
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: to too many people, you know, And that's what I
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: think is gonna draw a lot of people in you
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: have that nineties and especially for millennials. I really feel
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: like this movie is gonna appeal to millennials like myself,
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: gen X and the nostalgia of the DVD. Obviously, you know,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: gen Z is not gonna fucking understand it what to
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: DVD or you know, all this stuff. But I think
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: it's gonna it's gonna the crowded appeals to It's going
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: to appeal to them, and they're going to enjoy it
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: for exactly the reasons that I enjoyed it. And there's
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: something in that message of needing to move forward but
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: being okay, you know that like you can still you
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: can still live in that nostalgia, but you can't let
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: your you know. Unfortunately for Uncle Hep, he seems to
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: be he's a little trapped there. Yeah, you can tap
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: into it and remember the good times, but you do
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: have to keep moving forward. So yeah, that's that's kind
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: of that's the message I got as well. Nice, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: only have a few more minutes of your time here,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: so I have five rapid fire questions.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Number one, what is the last movie horror movie to
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: genuinely scare you?
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Barbarian?
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, Zach Craigor, very nice, most underrated horror movie.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: I was gonna do nineties since this was ninety nine,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go to two thousands because yeah so okay,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: oh yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: God in the two thousands.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just because I'm a big scream guy.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I'll say Scream three.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I think I think if you look at Scream three
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: from the filter of the request was made that it
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: can't be a scary, it needs to be more funny.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: It's like, once I understood that, as like, I respect
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: you for what you are.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what. I like that movie a
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: lot better after Scream seven came out, because I was
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: like Wow, man, you're making you're making Scream three look
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: like a masterpiece. I do need to revisit Scredene three though,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: favorite and I know this is this. You don't have
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of options here, but favorite fake movie inside
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: of another movie, like your movie. Like, oh yeah, I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: know that might we might have to come back to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: that one. It's kind of yeah, it's kind of think
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: that's so rapid fire on that one.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how about I'll bend, I'll bend the rules?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Are a favorite TV show inside a TV show?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: You accept that?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, accept that?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Season one and Twin Peaks they do this great thing
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: where everybody in town is watching this soap opera, Invitation
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: to Love. Yes, and in Twin Peaks was kind of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: a riff on soap operas but really weird and different. Yeah,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: and they do a great job just kind of making
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: fun of soap operas. But everything that's happening to the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: people on Invitation to Love is echoing what's happening to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the people.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Man, Twin Peaks.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: You're good on your feet. You're good on your feet.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: One horror remake that you'll defend forever.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Ooh a go.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: That one's hard for me because I don't Oh, how
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: about King Kong, the seventy eight King Kong?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: Oh the seventy oh with oh my god, yes from
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Roland right, Roland?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: No, oh, I don't remember who the.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Jessica Jessica Lang right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: I love yeah, I love that one.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I really love the original.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: But but you know, there's some real special things about
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: the seventy eighth I do.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: I do really like that one and the last one here,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: since you did mention, this is perfect because I had
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: no idea. Since you are a fan of classic horror,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: is there one horror classic you're not You're you're not sorry.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: If there one horror classic, you're you're afraid to admit
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: you don't love We all have those movies for me.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: I mean it's it's yeah, it's eighties, but I just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: don't like hell Raiser, you know, I don't like Yeah,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: so is there any is there any movie like that?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Like that movie? Everyone loves that.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: You're just like, Okay, I'm gonna be very brave because
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: of your background. Okay, this is not a dislike. This
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: is just my own personal journey. The first Friday, the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: thirteenth is like, that's fine, And I think part of
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: it for me very quick. I was not allowed to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: watch the classic eighty horror movies when they were coming out,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: so they were like told to me is like scary
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: stories by like older kids on the playground, so they
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: like loomed super large. And then when I became an
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: adult and I saw Halloween, it was like, God, damn
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: that scary.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I saw a nightman elm Street and I was like, well,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sleep. Yeah, And I saw Friday the Thirteenth, It's.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Like, sure, I'm okay with this.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth for me suffered from it was not
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: as scary is the way the older kids described me
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: about like and then his hockey mass scripts off and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: like and then if I watched the first one, I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: was like, what where's the hocky mit? Like, yeah, it
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: was set up for failure for me.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And also by the time I watched it, I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: already knew this the twist of Jason's not even in it. Yeah,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: all right, So that's all I have. I did want
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: to tell you one tiny anecdote that I thought was funny.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: There's a moment in the movie where the discs starts
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: skipping and everyone starts blipping around, and Vimeo at that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: moment decided to buffer and I was like, I thought
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: it was part of the movie and I had I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: had to refresh.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: That's very funny.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was a very funny moment. So
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  Speaker 4: thank you Joseph for joining me today. If anybody wants
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  Speaker 4: to follow you or the film or anything, where can
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  Speaker 4: they find you on social media?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I'm on all the social media at Justice scrimchaize my
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: handle everywhere, in particular for Dead Media. We've gotten Instagram
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  Speaker 2: going at Dead Media movie and if you want to
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  Speaker 2: look for any of the screenings or upcoming news about streaming,
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  Speaker 2: and we're not announcing dates, but it will be on
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  Speaker 2: physical media for sure. That's in the contract. We're already
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  Speaker 2: talking about all the bonus features.
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  Speaker 3: The film is.
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  Speaker 2: Distributed by a company called Antenna Releasing, so you can
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  Speaker 2: always go to Antenna Releasing dot com, slash film, slash
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  Speaker 2: dead Media.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and our generous hosts here at Frightmar's podcast Someone's
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  Speaker 4: Favorite Productions. Ryan Verel is the runner of that. He
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  Speaker 4: is also the founder of Antenna and day one, I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: will be buying a copy of this. Gotta have a
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  Speaker 4: copy of this, So that's great to hear that you're
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  Speaker 4: not only getting a physical release but a VOD release.
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  Speaker 4: That's great that Antenna is out there doing the Lord's work.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. So at this point, everybody should know
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  Speaker 4: where to find me Frightmar's podcast on all forms of
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  Speaker 4: social media. Go check us out. This is gonna be
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  Speaker 4: a bonus episode four July, so it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: out right at the end here, and then next month
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  Speaker 4: in August, we're gonna be doing on the regular show.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to be doing anim August Attacks, where we
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: have a bunch of animal attack movies and not your
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: just and not just sharks and alligators. I'm talking in
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  Speaker 4: sec and roads and birds and all sorts of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So, all right, any squirrels, any squirrels.
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  Speaker 4: No, no squirrels. I might have to re I might
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  Speaker 4: have to reevaluate the list here.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know if you find any any squirrel movies,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: horror squirrel movies, because otherwise maybe I'll take that on. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: if this is coming out at the end of July,
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  Speaker 2: I should say that we'll still be on the road
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  Speaker 2: with the road show that I'm at every screening, I'm
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: doing introductions Q and a giving away a weird DVD.
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  Speaker 2: The Physical Media Advocate made a souvenir Dead Media magazine
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  Speaker 2: that's got like zine pages written by Heppy in it.
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  Speaker 2: So we're really literal leaning into the bonus features idea
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  Speaker 2: of it's not just a screening. You go out and
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  Speaker 2: you have inexperience and meet folks. So that'll still be rolling.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be going to the East Coast and a couple
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: of stops in the South and back to the Midwest,
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  Speaker 2: and all sorts of screenings still coming out.
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  Speaker 4: Are you coming to the Florida area.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe some things are still in motion? All right,
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  Speaker 3: I love you. Okay, sounds good, perfect?
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well, thank you Joseph once again for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: It was a pleasure talking to you. Really enjoyed the film,
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  Speaker 4: and anybody who checks it out, I hope you enjoyed
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  Speaker 4: it as well. So until next time, guys, stay tuned
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  Speaker 4: and stay spooky.
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