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Roger Goodell talks NFL International Expansion, Von Miller Signs with Cowboys, NFL Training Camp Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: enjoying life, living life, and got a lot going on.
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Speaker 1: Goodell said, we're going international obviously the games, but could
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Speaker 1: They got you covered. And let's just start with my
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Speaker 1: main man, Roger Goodell. We've had there's been so much
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Speaker 1: discussion over the course of the last four or five
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Speaker 1: years on these international games in the league, trying to
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Speaker 1: become some version of like F one meets soccer meets
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Speaker 1: golf meets these international sports that where you know, I
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Speaker 1: remember going to Europe for like a month when I
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Speaker 1: was like twenty one and just seeing Obviously soccer was king,
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Speaker 1: but they love tennis. And I was in Spain Rafael
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Speaker 1: and the doll was huge. They love golf, right, these
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Speaker 1: international sports. And football was always known as our game, right.
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Speaker 1: It was played in the States. It was a grassroots operation.
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Speaker 1: You could go high schools all over the country on
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Speaker 1: Friday during the fall. It was a big deal. Got
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Speaker 1: really big in college where just a lot of us
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Speaker 1: end up. And obviously what's happened with college you know,
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Speaker 1: I almost said expansion, but contraction, the changing of conferences,
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Speaker 1: the consolidation of like the North versus the South. Feels
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Speaker 1: like college football is bigger than ever. And obviously the
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Speaker 1: NFL is bigger than ever. But when I think Alabama
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Speaker 1: playing Old miss or I think Ohio State playing Michigan,
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Speaker 1: like I think America, you know, when I think Cowboys
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Speaker 1: versus Eagles, I kind of think of Clearly, the NFL
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Speaker 1: has had a different view on that for a while,
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Speaker 1: and I've always I wouldn't say supported, but I would
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Speaker 1: say I understand right. I've been now in different lines
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Speaker 1: of work, and many of you are in different industries, Like,
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Speaker 1: it's not the thing in business, And that's ultimately what
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Speaker 1: Roger is in control of, not winning and losing on
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Speaker 1: a weekly Sunday, right, he wins every week. As long
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Speaker 1: as the NFL keeps doing well, you can be like, well,
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Speaker 1: you're making so much money. Human nature. The business mindset
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Speaker 1: is always like if you're not growing, you're dying. And
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Speaker 1: they always need to expand. And I think you could
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Speaker 1: make the argument that the NFL capped out feels strong,
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Speaker 1: but like, how much bigger in America can I get?
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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, how much bigger can NFL Sundays, Thursdays
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Speaker 1: and Mondays for seventeen eighteen weeks during the fall get.
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Speaker 1: You could argue it's as big as it's ever gonna get,
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Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with it. They are by far
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Speaker 1: the number one television show. Everywhere I go, you know,
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Speaker 1: football comes up. It's really a powerful conversation starter for me,
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Speaker 1: you know, like talking to people at the gym, talking
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Speaker 1: to people with the golf course. There's really the two
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Speaker 1: places I go beside work in my house, Like when
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Speaker 1: football comes up or what I do comes up, everyone
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Speaker 1: can have a conversation immediately about it, whether you're a
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Speaker 1: Browns fan or whether I went to Florida. I just
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Speaker 1: saw a guy at the hotel last week that was
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Speaker 1: working out, and he said, where I went to Florida,
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Speaker 1: right when urban Meyer was there, and we start talking
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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow. It is like the universal language in America
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Speaker 1: forget men to just start a conversation from scratch. Even
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Speaker 1: my wife said when I was doing Colin, she was
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Speaker 1: down like an hour south of us with her mom
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Speaker 1: for a couple of days, and said they were eating
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Speaker 1: breakfast somewhere in a swanky place, Thanks Dad, and they
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Speaker 1: were leaving and these two guys she thought were like
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Speaker 1: early thirties, both had their laptops up. It was like
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Speaker 1: a beautiful view right you could see the water. And
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Speaker 1: she heard one guy look at the other guy and go, god,
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Speaker 1: I can't wait for football to start. And the other
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Speaker 1: guy looked at him like me too, man, And they
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Speaker 1: were clearly like partners in some business, but just imprompt do.
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Speaker 1: The guy brought it up, which I say it all
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Speaker 1: the time, like it's awesome. I love football, I love
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Speaker 1: talking about football. I love that so many people care
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Speaker 1: about football. But like this international thing, there's risk in
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Speaker 1: everything you do right there. There's risk in drafting a
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the top ten. There's risk in firing or
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Speaker 1: hiring a coach. There's risk in going out and dating
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Speaker 1: a girl. That person could be a disaster for your life,
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Speaker 1: or it could turn it into the future mother of
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Speaker 1: your children. You never know. That's the uh, that's part
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Speaker 1: of the world we're in. You just every day. You
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Speaker 1: never know what turn you're gonna take. And the NFL
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Speaker 1: is clearly not that long ago, but quadruple down on
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Speaker 1: the power of these international cities. This year, they're playing
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Speaker 1: more international games than ever. They're making the rams and
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Speaker 1: the Niners fly sixteen seventeen hours to Australia with someone
5:35
Speaker 1: kind of in the loop told me within the last
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours they're like, do you know that Australia
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Speaker 1: has very serious marijuana laws. I'm like, no, actually I didn't.
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Speaker 1: If you would ask me what are the marijuana and like,
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Speaker 1: what's weed like in Australia. I don't know exactly their climates.
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Speaker 1: I know it can get hot, but like if it
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Speaker 1: grows well there, if they have great weed, but I
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Speaker 1: would have guessed the weed that enters the place. It
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Speaker 1: would have been a free for all. There is no rule.
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Speaker 1: Think like think like Californias. It's like drugs galore. They're like, actually,
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Speaker 1: it's the opposite. It is a very serious offense, which
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Speaker 1: is a problem for the Rams, the Niners, any NFL team,
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Speaker 1: let's face it, any pro team basketball, baseball. The Niners
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Speaker 1: are going there for eight days, and from what I've told,
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Speaker 1: they're very very serious in Australia, and clearly the only way,
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Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be meeting some guy in a park,
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Speaker 1: you would bring it with you. Customs. It can just
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Speaker 1: be challenging. So you know, I wonder if Kyle's were rethinking,
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Speaker 1: like hereh we go for eight days, how many guys
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Speaker 1: become kind of, you know, pretty dependent, you know on
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Speaker 1: the nightly couple rips. Maybe you gotta sneak in some gummies.
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Speaker 1: But like, these are things that you don't need to
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Speaker 1: think about when you're just playing the Rams in LA
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Speaker 1: or playing the Eagles, or playing the count or whatever. Right,
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Speaker 1: and Goodell said today that you know, he was talking
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Speaker 1: to this international publication and he said, at some point
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Speaker 1: there will be NFL teams outside the USA. I have
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Speaker 1: no doubt this will happen one day because he was
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Speaker 1: being asked about a Super Bowl being hosted in international
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Speaker 1: city and he said, they're definitely international cities that could
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Speaker 1: host something like that, but we would like to see
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Speaker 1: an NFL team in such a city first. I think
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Speaker 1: we can all guess talking to London. My big question
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Speaker 1: mark because at this point in time sometimes you're like,
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Speaker 1: you know, he's just talking, right, He's just he's talking
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Speaker 1: with some German publication. They got a game going to Germany,
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Speaker 1: hype it up, like I judge you on your actions,
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Speaker 1: not by your words, and their action show they're fucking
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Speaker 1: obsessed with going international. Good. Robert Kraft alluded to it
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Speaker 1: at I think the owners meetings earlier this year. You know,
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Speaker 1: part of the eighteen game schedules to have a full
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Speaker 1: package internationally, then they can sell it and make a
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Speaker 1: bunch of more revenue out of games that already would
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Speaker 1: have existed and place them all around the world. But
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Speaker 1: my big question is this, like if I owned an
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Speaker 1: NFL team, if you owned an NFL team, A huge
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Speaker 1: part of the power of that asset is grouping together
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Speaker 1: all your power with the thirty two teams and selling
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Speaker 1: it to the media and making a bunch of money
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Speaker 1: and guaranteeing a cash flow every single year of I
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Speaker 1: think this year is over four hundred and fifty million dollars,
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Speaker 1: so I think it's safe to say next year we'll
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Speaker 1: exceed that. And that number could be four hundred and
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Speaker 1: eighty five million dollars or five hundred million dollars, and
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Speaker 1: it's just only going to go up. And then when
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Speaker 1: they signed their new television deal, that number could potentially double.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be fucking huge. Well if
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Speaker 1: you add expansion teams. Now, if they do it in
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Speaker 1: five ten years at the rate in which you're going,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Lakers just went for twelve point five
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Speaker 1: billion dollars and they don't own their own stadium. Like,
8:43
Speaker 1: you could call me a Laker hater, that is true?
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Speaker 1: Do I absolutely love this story of all the bus
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Speaker 1: kids going after Genie after she literally backstabbed all of
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Speaker 1: them in the back. Now, again, this is rich people problems.
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Speaker 1: They're all getting rich. They're already rich no matter what.
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Speaker 1: But Genie thought that she could just cut all their
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Speaker 1: fucking heads off, live like a queen and run the Lakers.
9:08
Speaker 1: And now because of this sale, because Mark Walters looks
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Speaker 1: like he might be running a little bit of a scheme.
9:15
Speaker 1: I just again judge off actions, not off the words.
9:19
Speaker 1: Don't pretend to understand insurance laws. But reading a couple
9:23
Speaker 1: of articles seems like there's some weird stuff going on.
9:25
Speaker 1: And then you start looking at the Dodgers signing all
9:27
Speaker 1: these like backloaded contract I got some red flax. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not some Dodger hater at this point, even though
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Speaker 1: I grew up hating him, I do appreciate what they're
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Speaker 1: what they've done over the years, even though right now
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Speaker 1: they're playing terrible. But I just love the bus story.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the kids all hate each other, well, all
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Speaker 1: hate Genie. Genie hates them all told one once upon
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Speaker 1: a time. I wish you were never born. It's like,
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Speaker 1: you guys weren't born on third base. You guys were
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Speaker 1: born on a fucking home plate. It's just classic. It
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Speaker 1: just shows you, you know, people, money can create some
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Speaker 1: of the crazier situations between families. It's just a tried
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Speaker 1: and true formula, whether it's one hundred grand pot or
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Speaker 1: whether it's this billion dollar operation like the Lakers. But
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Speaker 1: that being said is if we own the team, are
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Speaker 1: part of adding teams, is then you got to split
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Speaker 1: the revenue, right, This wouldn't be a situation. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: think like when USC and UCLA basically ruined the PAC twelve. Well,
10:23
Speaker 1: USC did, and they needed a partner, and they took
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Speaker 1: Ucla with them. And listen, I grew up a Ucla fan.
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Speaker 1: But that's just a fact. You know, the USC was
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Speaker 1: the brand the big ten wanted, and they needed to,
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Speaker 1: you know, bring a partner because you couldn't come single
10:36
Speaker 1: and throw off, you know, the schedule. So you bring Ucla. Well,
10:40
Speaker 1: then obviously the two other big brands or well there's
10:43
Speaker 1: really four Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Washington kind of shit
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Speaker 1: out of luck. Oregon and Washington go, hey, we'll join.
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Speaker 1: They don't get the same piece of the pie. They're
10:53
Speaker 1: not getting the same revenue split. I think early on
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Speaker 1: as USC and UCLA, but it was a no brainer
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Speaker 1: they had to go. I'm not exactly sure about Callen
11:03
Speaker 1: Stanford with the ACC. But again, you know, all my
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Speaker 1: Fresno State people are so proud. It's like we're in
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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve that you ain't in the PAC twelve.
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Speaker 1: You're in the Mountain West rebranded with just the PAC
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Speaker 1: twelve logo, the Pac twelve fucking died the moment USC
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Speaker 1: and fight On took their talents to the Midwest, which, again,
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Speaker 1: if I'm just being unemotional, don't blame them as just
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Speaker 1: an emotional sports fan that grew up. I vividly remember
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Speaker 1: going to a Cow game against USC and seeing Keshawn
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Speaker 1: Johnson Like, yeah, it sucks. I mean, there's no way
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Speaker 1: about it. It sucks. But like, I have a hard
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Speaker 1: time seeing them expanding. And you could also argue, like
11:42
Speaker 1: there are I mean, last year, how many bad teams
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Speaker 1: were there in the NFL As college football's changed, Is
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Speaker 1: there enough talent to have two more NFL teams? There's
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Speaker 1: definitely not two more quarterbacks that you could fill those spots.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we already don't have enough. There's definitely not
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Speaker 1: enough offensive linemen. I mean, coaches would be all for
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Speaker 1: it because they could get paid, so I go, you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess I'd be a little surprised if they expanded. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you're talking valuations of fifteen twenty billion dollars, Once
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Speaker 1: you get to like twenty billion dollars, you're talking seven
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight hundred million dollars for every owner.
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Speaker 1: Maybe my mass a little off there. I'm just thinking
12:18
Speaker 1: of the off the cuff here, but so maybe you
12:21
Speaker 1: could entice them of like the upfront cash, even if
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Speaker 1: you got to split from one thirty second to one
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Speaker 1: thirty fourth. But then I started thinking, why don't they
12:30
Speaker 1: just move a couple teams? Right? And Jaguar fans always
12:33
Speaker 1: pushed back, he just bought or just you know, paid
12:36
Speaker 1: for a new practice facility. It's like, okay, they could
12:41
Speaker 1: use it when they come back. They could use that
12:43
Speaker 1: as a place that they use as a business operation
12:46
Speaker 1: when they're playing in the States. So if they're playing
12:49
Speaker 1: anywhere on the Eastern Seaboard or the South, they could
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Speaker 1: just stay there. It's actually pretty easy. And that's the
12:57
Speaker 1: team because I also thought, like, you know, could the
13:00
Speaker 1: Jets just be like, you know, what's fuck it? We're
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Speaker 1: definitely the number two football team here though, giving our
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Speaker 1: market size. For being a second team in a market,
13:11
Speaker 1: we're pretty massive. Like the Chargers are the second team
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Speaker 1: in the LA market. They're just they don't exist. The
13:17
Speaker 1: Chargers are a bigger national talking point for anyone that
13:21
Speaker 1: just talks about football. Not a soul knows anything going
13:24
Speaker 1: on about them in Los Angeles. Every single game they
13:27
Speaker 1: play is an away game. It just they don't matter.
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Speaker 1: And listen, I think they're gonna be pretty good. I'm
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Speaker 1: just talking about the brand. But I don't see that moving.
13:37
Speaker 1: I live in Arizona. Like you could argue the Cardinals
13:42
Speaker 1: are just they need to refresh, they need to reset.
13:46
Speaker 1: And if somehow you could force out this owner here,
13:49
Speaker 1: who is just I mean, his family's just a historical disaster,
13:54
Speaker 1: there's just no way around it. Could you convince that
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Speaker 1: It's not like they have their own stadium. I don't
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Speaker 1: think they own the stadium in Glendale. It's out in
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Speaker 1: bumpfuck Egypt. It's not like anyone would even notice if
14:04
Speaker 1: it was gone. You still have it here for events.
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Speaker 1: Now they are building a new practice facility actually right
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Speaker 1: down the street from my house. But like, if they're
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Speaker 1: not expanding, which he didn't really get into the details
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Speaker 1: of that, you would have to move two teams. And
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Speaker 1: it's not you ain't moving the Cowboys, you know, you
14:25
Speaker 1: ain't moving the Patriots or the Eagles now moving the
14:27
Speaker 1: Giants now moving the Miami Dolphins. It's like we'd have
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Speaker 1: to have a serious conversation of like who would be
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Speaker 1: in the mix to move, and there would be some
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Speaker 1: teams like I do think Arizona would make a lot
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Speaker 1: of sense, honestly, because this is only like this profitable,
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Speaker 1: growing market. Yet their team's valuation is like at the bottom,
14:47
Speaker 1: you go to London, boom, your valuation skyrockets. Same thing
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Speaker 1: with the Jacks, Like if you just were to move,
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Speaker 1: Like that's the thing with the Jets, like, we don't
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Speaker 1: need to move to to increase our valuation. We're in
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Speaker 1: We're in an area where money flows. So my guess
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Speaker 1: is they would move two teams. Which again, when he
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Speaker 1: says this, I don't just think he's throwing, you know,
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Speaker 1: stuff at the wall and hope it sticks. I mean
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Speaker 1: they've clearly thought this out, and their actions show you
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Speaker 1: that they love the international world. Jordan Tyson was injured.
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Speaker 1: I guess at practice. It might have been their joint
15:28
Speaker 1: practice against the Jags, or might have been the first
15:31
Speaker 1: practice after the game, and he heard his hamstring really
15:34
Speaker 1: bad and he's gonna miss a couple months. And he
15:38
Speaker 1: was one of the most polarizing guys in the draft.
15:40
Speaker 1: Why because he was literally injured last season, and he'd
15:44
Speaker 1: been injured countless times before. He was a major red flag.
15:48
Speaker 1: He couldn't work out the combine. He had to work
15:50
Speaker 1: out like a week before the draft, and when he did,
15:53
Speaker 1: the videos of him jumping around didn't just go viral.
15:57
Speaker 1: It looked like Russell Westbrook out there in his prime.
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Speaker 1: It's this is the best athlete in the draft. But
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Speaker 1: the problem with picking guys with major injury red flags.
16:06
Speaker 1: And let me say this before my quick thought was
16:10
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore claimed that the injury on the hamstring he
16:14
Speaker 1: was shoved out of bounds was like a freak quad
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Speaker 1: hamstring injury that had nothing to do with his previous
16:21
Speaker 1: injuries that were also the same thing. It was like
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Speaker 1: a freak deal. And listen, maybe he's one hundred percent
16:27
Speaker 1: telling this ruth, but when you take an injured player
16:30
Speaker 1: in the draft and then the guy gets injured immediately,
16:34
Speaker 1: it's one thing. If it's like Jeremiah Love who got
16:37
Speaker 1: injured when they gave him seventy five touches in the
16:40
Speaker 1: first preseason game. I mean, I had a personnel guy
16:42
Speaker 1: text me today that's like our front office would have
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Speaker 1: fucking flipped after like five touches. Right, you're gonna expose
16:50
Speaker 1: guys to injuries and games if you overplay them, especially
16:53
Speaker 1: the first preseason game. It's another thing to get hurt
16:55
Speaker 1: in practice. Right, Like when I bought my house, they're like, eh,
16:58
Speaker 1: your roof might have five years left, and I knew
17:02
Speaker 1: it didn't have ten. And then two years later we
17:04
Speaker 1: had a crazy rainstorm and guess what. I looked up
17:07
Speaker 1: and my roof was leaky. I couldn't blame anybody, Like
17:09
Speaker 1: I knew the deal when I bought the house, and
17:12
Speaker 1: you know the roof was old. It's like, I wasn't
17:14
Speaker 1: gonna replace it the moment I moved in because I
17:16
Speaker 1: didn't want to spend the money and I was hoping
17:18
Speaker 1: we could start set thing out and then we couldn't.
17:21
Speaker 1: And when you buy a car and they say the
17:23
Speaker 1: transmission might be fucked and then it goes it's like
17:27
Speaker 1: that's on you. And I think sometimes these teams and
17:31
Speaker 1: I understand it because you go to these workouts and
17:33
Speaker 1: you see this talent and two years ago at Arizona
17:35
Speaker 1: State he was incredibly he had like ten touchdowns and
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Speaker 1: thousand yards and seventy five. He's a freak athlete, dominating
17:41
Speaker 1: top teams. But like, once you have a long history
17:45
Speaker 1: of injuries, you have to expect that to continue. You
17:49
Speaker 1: just do you know Michael Pennix has towards ACL three times.
17:54
Speaker 1: The other years he hurt his shoulder, Like and I
17:57
Speaker 1: was a huge Michael Pennis guy in college, but when
17:59
Speaker 1: you after eight, it's like a year later, you can't
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Speaker 1: be shocked when he's injured. Even Bosa when the forty
18:05
Speaker 1: nine Ers draft of bos he was injured. Then he
18:07
Speaker 1: towards ACL a couple years into the career. Then he
18:10
Speaker 1: towards ACL a couple years later. And I'm like Nick Bosa,
18:13
Speaker 1: but it's like he does get injured a lot. When
18:15
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa's one hundred percent and rolling, he's like a Ferrari,
18:18
Speaker 1: but he gets snicked up a lot and has to
18:19
Speaker 1: go to the shop. And sometimes when you get a
18:22
Speaker 1: guy that is a high it's like, you know, basketball players.
18:26
Speaker 1: It's always the scouting term when looking at like high
18:29
Speaker 1: level athletes in the NFL. Some guys are durable, high level,
18:33
Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald, Miles Garretts an elite athlete. They're tough,
18:36
Speaker 1: physical guys. Sometimes wide receivers can be like the best
18:39
Speaker 1: athlete in the league, but they're like a sports car
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Speaker 1: and they cannot only operate when their body feels perfect.
18:45
Speaker 1: The moment they go down to ninety percent, it's like
18:48
Speaker 1: I can't function. And obviously this is you know, an
18:52
Speaker 1: injury you can't run or whatever. But it's got to
18:56
Speaker 1: be a kick in the nuts for Mickey Loomis, you
18:58
Speaker 1: know who. It was an aggress a pick that there's
19:01
Speaker 1: no way around it. You guys know where I stand
19:02
Speaker 1: on the Saints. I think they're gonna be good. And
19:05
Speaker 1: this doesn't necessarily change the fact if this kid had
19:08
Speaker 1: been healthy and kind of became what we saw a
19:11
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I think they could be really good,
19:13
Speaker 1: especially on offense. But like, I'm not even depending on
19:17
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, because he's injured a lot, which sucks.
19:21
Speaker 1: But this is this is not on him, like he's
19:25
Speaker 1: already shown you what happens to him. This is on
19:28
Speaker 1: the front office on pulling the trigger on this one.
19:31
Speaker 1: If he is just one of those guys that's just like,
19:34
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, never on the field. A couple other
19:36
Speaker 1: Stori von Miller, you know, he just it's gotta be cool.
19:40
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if he's got anything left.
19:42
Speaker 1: Who knows of you mixed team, Uh, but size with
19:46
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Keenan Allen signs with the Colts. He played
19:50
Speaker 1: with Shane Steichen, you know, back in the day when
19:52
Speaker 1: he was the Chargers quarterback coach. Keenan Allen last year
19:55
Speaker 1: at eighty catches, I mean, he's not like Keenan Allen.
19:57
Speaker 1: You know the last two years he had twenty catches. Really,
20:00
Speaker 1: it's like guys, he never could run. He's like Keenan
20:02
Speaker 1: Allen lost his step. Yeah, he lost the step when
20:04
Speaker 1: he was like twelve. Keen Allen just gets open because
20:06
Speaker 1: he's a great right runner, and I think he had
20:09
Speaker 1: the one year we had some drops. For most part,
20:11
Speaker 1: like Keenan Allen is a sure handed route running slot
20:14
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I just think with the Colts, this Alec
20:18
Speaker 1: Pierce thing. You know, you get off season ankle surgery
20:20
Speaker 1: and you're just still at practice walking around. You can't play.
20:23
Speaker 1: I saw their assistant gm At Dobbs claimed that everything's
20:26
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. He also said, like Anthony Richardson, uh,
20:29
Speaker 1: you know that's what a disasters pick that is. Kyle
20:34
Speaker 1: Shanahan also pushed back against everyone saying that Christian McCaffrey
20:39
Speaker 1: was was holding out. He said he's not holding out.
20:42
Speaker 1: It is not contract related. He's got tightness. Niners got
20:46
Speaker 1: to lead the league in tightness. I mean every boast
20:49
Speaker 1: has got tightenness. McCaffrey's got tightenness. Mike Evans leaves practice
20:52
Speaker 1: today with tightness. I mean, I don't think I've ever
20:56
Speaker 1: seen and heard the word tightness so much than this
20:59
Speaker 1: year's forty practice. I don't even feel like I see
21:01
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21:03
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22:25
Speaker 1: A couple other things before we get into the mailbag.
22:28
Speaker 1: One thing I just do not comprehend. You know, back
22:32
Speaker 1: in the day, pre nil, it was really hard to
22:35
Speaker 1: just you would need to hit on some amazing players,
22:39
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of programs in your conference to be
22:41
Speaker 1: down to then like all of a sudden, come out
22:44
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and it didn't really happen very often. Like
22:46
Speaker 1: for the most part most of my life, the same
22:49
Speaker 1: twenty colleges kind of dominated. Now Alabama could be down,
22:54
Speaker 1: Florida could be down, but then they come back up,
22:57
Speaker 1: you know, and occasionally like Michigan State has a good
22:59
Speaker 1: run or Stanford has a good run, but it's mainly
23:03
Speaker 1: you know, USC Oregon, Utah has been good for twenty
23:06
Speaker 1: five years, obviously, Michigan, Ohio State, you know, Florida State's
23:09
Speaker 1: down now if they figured out they could be back. Clemson.
23:13
Speaker 1: I was listening on the RADO to College Series XM.
23:17
Speaker 1: They're like, don't sleep on Clemson. I don't know much.
23:19
Speaker 1: I don't know their quarterback situation, but they have like
23:22
Speaker 1: five guys that most draft analysts, you know, they have
23:25
Speaker 1: a corner, a linebacker, a pass rusher, and a wide
23:29
Speaker 1: receiver that are all viewed as like potential first round picks.
23:32
Speaker 1: So it's like they have a lot of talent. A
23:34
Speaker 1: grand they did last year and they went seven to five. Though,
23:36
Speaker 1: if you watch Club Nick, kind of understandable. Even in
23:38
Speaker 1: the preseason game, all the teams around the top twelve, right,
23:44
Speaker 1: you got Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia, Miami, Texas, you know, Alabama's,
23:50
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's these historic programs. If any of those two programs
23:55
Speaker 1: had had the same coach the last two years and
23:59
Speaker 1: had made the playoffs, one had to go on the
24:02
Speaker 1: road and lost, and then the following year ran the
24:05
Speaker 1: table and literally beat all the teams that I just listed. Essentially,
24:11
Speaker 1: they would for sure because we can. Preseason rankings, I
24:15
Speaker 1: thought we all agree they're kind of stupid, especially now
24:17
Speaker 1: with the transfer portal. You have no fucking clue, but
24:20
Speaker 1: we're gonna do them. It has a conversation and in
24:22
Speaker 1: a weird way. Sometimes it can impact you know, big
24:25
Speaker 1: picture though less and less with the playoffs. But there
24:28
Speaker 1: is no one beside Indiana that would have had their
24:32
Speaker 1: back to back seasons of making the playoffs kind of
24:35
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and then winning the national championship and
24:39
Speaker 1: their coach being like this guy could beat anybody. Would
24:42
Speaker 1: not have been one. I mentioned this last week with Colin.
24:46
Speaker 1: I don't get that worked up over eight, like whether
24:49
Speaker 1: you know Texas should be four or nine or Oklahoma.
24:52
Speaker 1: I actually think Oklahoma's probably a little low. But we
24:54
Speaker 1: could argue till we're blowing the face, and that's all.
24:56
Speaker 1: It is a hypothetical arguments that they got to play
24:59
Speaker 1: the games. But if if you're gonna do it, and
25:01
Speaker 1: let's face a lot of it is just based on
25:02
Speaker 1: who your coach is, how well you recruit, and like
25:05
Speaker 1: what your program kind of does every year. Ohio State's good, right,
25:09
Speaker 1: every year? George is good? Like you know, for a fact,
25:12
Speaker 1: George is gonna be in the SEC Championship game. I
25:14
Speaker 1: think they've been eight of nine, like more than likely.
25:16
Speaker 1: Ohio State's playing in the Big Ten Championship. More than likely.
25:20
Speaker 1: Oregon is either in the Big Ten Championship game or
25:22
Speaker 1: a game out like we know Indiana, Like why don't
25:26
Speaker 1: we talk about Indiana that way? And I think we've
25:28
Speaker 1: really struggled to transition of like there's a new era
25:32
Speaker 1: and this fucking program is here to stay. Here's the
25:35
Speaker 1: other thing, a lot of these programs lost coaches, right
25:40
Speaker 1: the Oregon lost their OC and DC, Ohio State lost
25:44
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. Hired Arthur Smith last time I checked.
25:48
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's been in the NFL for like fifteen twenty
25:51
Speaker 1: years now. You could argue that Patricia had too when
25:53
Speaker 1: he made the transition. I think it's a little different.
25:57
Speaker 1: Like defensively, if you ever told like, hey, I'm gonna
25:59
Speaker 1: give Belichick Patricia Flora as any of those guys put
26:04
Speaker 1: him in college with by far the best talent, But yeah,
26:07
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna be pretty good offensive that could be
26:10
Speaker 1: a little tricky. And the one thing with Arthur Smith
26:12
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, when he had Dereck Henry he was incredible,
26:15
Speaker 1: but then kind of watching him go on his own
26:16
Speaker 1: didn't quite work. And I'm not even trying to hate
26:19
Speaker 1: on the guy. I met him one time at the combine,
26:22
Speaker 1: actually had a couple beers. Seemed like a cool guy.
26:24
Speaker 1: But I don't know, that's pretty big, pretty big unknown.
26:28
Speaker 1: So my point is Indiana not being at one based
26:33
Speaker 1: on the last two seasons and based on the way
26:35
Speaker 1: just these work, I think we have to agree is
26:38
Speaker 1: a pretty easy one for Signetty to have both middle
26:41
Speaker 1: fingers up. Okay, a non football story, but a big
26:45
Speaker 1: ten program, Penn State. I saw this on the internet
26:50
Speaker 1: today and it just I mean, it was kind of
26:53
Speaker 1: eye opening, big picture with Penn State as a university,
26:57
Speaker 1: obviously as an athletic program. I lived in Pennsylvania when
27:01
Speaker 1: the Sandusky mcquerye paterno that whole thing went down, And
27:07
Speaker 1: when I worked for the Eagles, we had a guy
27:09
Speaker 1: named Mike Zordich who was an assistant coach on the staff.
27:13
Speaker 1: His son actually at the time was you know, twenty
27:15
Speaker 1: ten eleven played for Penn State for Joe Paul, who
27:18
Speaker 1: he also played for, and Zordich was one of the
27:22
Speaker 1: better defenders I think in like the mid to late
27:24
Speaker 1: eighties and Sandusky was his coach, and I had worked
27:28
Speaker 1: with other people from Penn State. I mean that story,
27:31
Speaker 1: I think, you know, time were so like onto the
27:37
Speaker 1: next thing, and so much has happened just in the
27:39
Speaker 1: last like five years, let alone the last ten. That
27:42
Speaker 1: like some stories that were so massive field just such
27:45
Speaker 1: like a it was such in the distant past, you know,
27:49
Speaker 1: I can't and again living in the heart of it.
27:52
Speaker 1: That's as crazy of the story as I ever remembered.
27:55
Speaker 1: The McQuary walking in on Sandusky with a little kid
27:58
Speaker 1: came out later and then Sandy has the charity and
28:01
Speaker 1: he's funneling kids do him. I mean, it was just sick.
28:03
Speaker 1: It was like Epstein, you know, meets uh it meets
28:08
Speaker 1: the nifty lines, you know what I mean. It's like
28:11
Speaker 1: Epstein meets Penn State, Ohio State. It was just like
28:14
Speaker 1: what it got coach there forever forever, I mean countless
28:19
Speaker 1: countless NFL players. Crazy shit just happens there. Even last year.
28:24
Speaker 1: It's like they were National Champion contenders and they fired
28:28
Speaker 1: their coach in the middle of the season and paid
28:29
Speaker 1: them like seventy million dollars to go away and Everyone's like,
28:32
Speaker 1: this can't be real. It's like, now they're paying him
28:34
Speaker 1: like fifty seventy million, and maybe it was Kelly they
28:36
Speaker 1: got seventy and he got sixty. Whatever it was. That's
28:39
Speaker 1: when the damn broke of, like Jesus. And then today
28:44
Speaker 1: on campus where at these big schools with these big
28:47
Speaker 1: athletic departments, the fraternities are kind of interwoven, right with
28:51
Speaker 1: you know, depending on the school, Like a lot of
28:53
Speaker 1: athletes are in some of these fraternities. They play a
28:56
Speaker 1: big role of like you know, with pledges of going
29:00
Speaker 1: to the games and just being kind of ever present,
29:04
Speaker 1: and it's like interconnected. I mean, it's it's becoming this
29:08
Speaker 1: Nil era. Everyone's so rich and famous and you know,
29:11
Speaker 1: drives ferraris and gets unlimited money. But it's still a
29:14
Speaker 1: college campus, right, I mean, some of these guys are
29:16
Speaker 1: still getting laid in the dorm room, even the guys
29:19
Speaker 1: on the nil that's where she lived. He's probably going
29:21
Speaker 1: over to see her, right. But this story of these
29:23
Speaker 1: fraternity brothers, I actually pulled the audio and I want
29:28
Speaker 1: to play this is the there was a cocaine ring
29:32
Speaker 1: in the Penn State fraternities, and this is the Pennsylvania
29:36
Speaker 1: Attorney General discussing the case.
29:40
Speaker 2: In the situation, what we learned during this investigation was
29:44
Speaker 2: that between twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, large
29:48
Speaker 2: amounts of cocaine kilos were brought from Philadelphia and New
29:51
Speaker 2: York to State College where they were cut and packaged
29:55
Speaker 2: for sale primarily to penn State students. The two main
29:59
Speaker 2: deal the top of the chain, if you will, were
30:04
Speaker 2: senior members of the Delta Upsilon and Sigma Chi fraternities.
30:09
Speaker 2: Agostino Abatiello was at the very top of the chain.
30:13
Speaker 2: Thomas Thomas Robinson was a rung below.
30:17
Speaker 1: That on the latter.
30:19
Speaker 2: And this poster here shows Operation Drugs Unlimited and it
30:24
Speaker 2: shows the hierarchy of the organization. The evidence presented to
30:28
Speaker 2: the grand jury led to a recent presentment and recommendation
30:32
Speaker 2: of charges against fourteen defendants. The evidence showed that cocaine
30:37
Speaker 2: was primarily packaged at the fraternity houses and that packaging
30:42
Speaker 2: was done by fraternity brothers and often time pledges. In fact,
30:47
Speaker 2: we found a pattern of events that showed cutting and
30:51
Speaker 2: bagging cocaine was for some pledges and indoctrination into the
30:56
Speaker 2: Delta Upsilon and Sigma chi fraternities.
31:00
Speaker 1: My freshman year at cal Poly, I pledged a fraternity,
31:04
Speaker 1: and when I look back, I think, you know, a
31:06
Speaker 1: couple of times you had to probably drink a little
31:09
Speaker 1: bit more than you wanted to and involved like natty
31:11
Speaker 1: light and pop off. And the other shitty thing you
31:13
Speaker 1: had to do was like drive. You know, you had
31:16
Speaker 1: to rotate off to be a designated driver, and you
31:20
Speaker 1: typically had to have like Copenhagen and cigarettes with you. Again,
31:23
Speaker 1: two thousand and three feels like a different time. I
31:25
Speaker 1: know these gen zs like sit in the room and
31:28
Speaker 1: play video games and don't talk to girls. Back then,
31:30
Speaker 1: you kind of hung out and partied, and you know,
31:32
Speaker 1: tobacco was a big part of it. You always had
31:34
Speaker 1: to have one in your pocket, but that was kind
31:37
Speaker 1: of the extent of it. So when I see that
31:41
Speaker 1: the pledges had to cut up and bag the kilos
31:45
Speaker 1: of cocaine. Again, not a big drug guy, h and
31:50
Speaker 1: not a big party guy in general, much more of
31:52
Speaker 1: a day drinker than a night drinker. The thing I
31:54
Speaker 1: don't understand with cocaine is like I'd rather go to bed,
31:57
Speaker 1: like another party guy always wants to just keep the partying,
32:00
Speaker 1: Like I like the party to end, but I can't imagine,
32:04
Speaker 1: you know, in the picture for those of you listening,
32:07
Speaker 1: the two visuals of these two kids at the top
32:10
Speaker 1: of the food chain, like the Pablo Escobar, the the
32:15
Speaker 1: you know what's his name, El Chapo of this story
32:20
Speaker 1: look like they were future KPMG employees. Like one of
32:25
Speaker 1: the guys looks like he was gonna be at Wells
32:27
Speaker 1: Fargo in the finance division. And this dude is slinging
32:30
Speaker 1: kilos of cocaine all over campus. And the pledges, I mean,
32:34
Speaker 1: there had to be a couple of moments some of
32:36
Speaker 1: these guys hell, who knows, maybe they didn't have that
32:39
Speaker 1: many friends or whatever. They're just trying to fit in.
32:40
Speaker 1: They don't know anyone coming from out of state. Meeting
32:43
Speaker 1: some guys pledges attorneys seem like its gonna be pretty cool.
32:46
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden the weekend, you know, you're
32:48
Speaker 1: just trying to keep your head above water in class.
32:50
Speaker 1: You kind of got a study on your own. There's
32:52
Speaker 1: no parents to tell you what not to do. You
32:53
Speaker 1: can kind of drink seven days a week if you want.
32:56
Speaker 1: And one of the dudes in the fraternity tells you,
32:59
Speaker 1: I need you to put on this this mask. I
33:03
Speaker 1: need you to take these baggies and here's a knife
33:07
Speaker 1: in a scale. I need you to get to work, homie.
33:10
Speaker 1: He's like, what, there had to be a couple they
33:13
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, you know, maybe skimmed off the side, but
33:16
Speaker 1: there had to be a couple that were just you know,
33:19
Speaker 1: it takes some balls an eighteen year old. You know,
33:21
Speaker 1: it's like should I call the police? Should I call
33:23
Speaker 1: my parents? As you're bagging the blow to sell all
33:27
Speaker 1: over campus? That story's insane. I mean, listen, some of
33:32
Speaker 1: these college campuses drugs are a flown. You'd have to
33:35
Speaker 1: be naive to think the only reason these guys are
33:38
Speaker 1: bringing the kilos clearly there's a clientele there to buy them,
33:41
Speaker 1: right with probably mommy and daddy's money. Uh, But to
33:45
Speaker 1: think that you would have the pledges cut up the
33:48
Speaker 1: kilos where I think a lot of people's experience is like, yeah,
33:53
Speaker 1: we just kind of had to drink to excess. You know,
33:57
Speaker 1: we had to like drive some of the older guys around,
33:59
Speaker 1: like the dude to his girlfriend's house maybe like you know,
34:03
Speaker 1: pick him up when he was ready to come home.
34:06
Speaker 1: Like that was like the hell, we kind of sucked.
34:08
Speaker 1: He didn't sleep that much. It's kind of stupid. He
34:11
Speaker 1: had to do like dumb tasks, but they definitely did
34:14
Speaker 1: not include bagging kilos of cocaine. So those guys, I'd
34:20
Speaker 1: safe to say their lives are over. I don't exactly
34:23
Speaker 1: know the uh the you know what comes along with
34:28
Speaker 1: a sentence in terms of that in that state, my
34:32
Speaker 1: guess will be it will not be light and the
34:35
Speaker 1: judge is an easy one to drop the hammer. And
34:37
Speaker 1: who else gonna want him drop the hammer? Is the school?
34:40
Speaker 1: I mean, Penn State just can't fucking buy a break
34:44
Speaker 1: here every single five years. Or's just something like what it?
34:48
Speaker 1: Are you serious? You would expect that to go on
34:51
Speaker 1: at like, I don't know, maybe it's just the schools
34:54
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. I've only been there one time.
34:57
Speaker 1: I remember driving for hours to get there. I remember
34:59
Speaker 1: getting on campus thinking it was cool. We walked in
35:02
Speaker 1: the stadium, went to the practe facility. But yeah, pledges
35:06
Speaker 1: just backing kilos of cocaine for uh, you know their
35:11
Speaker 1: boss that looks like a future accountant, but he was
35:13
Speaker 1: operating like he was l chappo. Guys, ask your answer.
35:30
Speaker 1: A couple of male bag questions. Uh, let's start with
35:35
Speaker 1: Tron's world. When will people accept that bow Knicks is
35:39
Speaker 1: very good at quarterback? I see so much hype around
35:42
Speaker 1: guys like Caleb and Jayden who had one good season. Meanwhile,
35:46
Speaker 1: bow Knicks beat Josh Allen toe to toe and should
35:48
Speaker 1: have been in the super Bowl if it weren't for
35:51
Speaker 1: his injury. I believe he's the best quarterback in the
35:53
Speaker 1: class and the numbers agree, Yet he gets zero recognition. Uh.
35:59
Speaker 1: I think if you did a I think the draft
36:02
Speaker 1: would clearly right today, would go Caleb Drake. Maybe maybe
36:08
Speaker 1: there's some people who would take Drake Caleb, but those
36:11
Speaker 1: guys would be a lock to go one too. You
36:14
Speaker 1: know the Jaden thing, It's like his rookie year was incredible.
36:18
Speaker 1: Last year banged up a lot. I think there's a
36:21
Speaker 1: huge question mark around just his situation, like can this
36:26
Speaker 1: guy stay healthy? Definitely, when he was rolling, he looked
36:30
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. I remember that Lions game, he was like, God,
36:32
Speaker 1: this guy's good. Now. Granted he was playing me and
36:34
Speaker 1: you and their defensive backfield, but like the momentum off
36:38
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy, which he clearly wants back now, or
36:41
Speaker 1: his mom does, which I wonder if they're going to
36:43
Speaker 1: walk that back. Everyone's making fun of them. But I
36:47
Speaker 1: think part of it is when you're the last quarterback
36:50
Speaker 1: taken in a first round of six other guys, right,
36:54
Speaker 1: it was Caleb Jaden Drake, was it than Pennix jjhm.
37:03
Speaker 1: There's just like, I don't know, there's a negative connotation
37:08
Speaker 1: that kind of comes with this guy overdrafted. I think
37:11
Speaker 1: the arrogance of Sean Payton telling you how much he
37:14
Speaker 1: loved him, I think pisses some people off. And also
37:17
Speaker 1: when you watched him play last year, it wasn't great
37:20
Speaker 1: at times, and he was great in the fourth quarter,
37:22
Speaker 1: But it's like, what is going on in the middle
37:24
Speaker 1: of these games? That Raider game? Is that Thursday night
37:28
Speaker 1: or Christmas whenever they played the Raiders. I think it
37:32
Speaker 1: was a Thursday night game that was one of the
37:33
Speaker 1: worst games I've ever watched. Both teams that was. I
37:37
Speaker 1: love what I do, but that's type night of like, eh,
37:39
Speaker 1: I wish you could do something else. Right now, the
37:42
Speaker 1: Broncos should be good, no excuse not to be one
37:44
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league this year. Why
37:46
Speaker 1: is everyone so low on Dart He had a great
37:49
Speaker 1: rookie year dual threat guy looked very accurate and all
37:52
Speaker 1: his receivers dropping passes. Plus he did all his work
37:56
Speaker 1: without scataboo and neighbors like, there is no disputing right
37:59
Speaker 1: now Jackson Dart like in his class, Jackson Dart cam Ward.
38:03
Speaker 1: There's not a team in the league that would take
38:05
Speaker 1: cam Ward over Jackson Dart. Not one team in the league.
38:07
Speaker 1: And that includes the Titans, which might have a serious
38:10
Speaker 1: problem on their hands. It's just I think they joint
38:15
Speaker 1: practice in play Seattle this week. Good luck, buddy, I
38:17
Speaker 1: mean that have fun with that one. So I would
38:23
Speaker 1: say this a huge part of the dark conversation, and
38:28
Speaker 1: he even like got mad at it after the last game.
38:30
Speaker 1: Is this blue tent situation. He's been in the blue
38:33
Speaker 1: tent like ten times, even on a play which is
38:37
Speaker 1: not his fault the running back. I have to go
38:39
Speaker 1: back and look at that play. I'm no coach, but
38:43
Speaker 1: there are certain blocks to ask a running back in
38:46
Speaker 1: pass bros that are easier than others. Maybe he took
38:49
Speaker 1: a false step and was way too was way too
38:52
Speaker 1: wide and couldn't get back inside, but that might have
38:55
Speaker 1: been a scheme issue. I'm not trying to shit on
38:56
Speaker 1: the running back. I don't Collin thought he should get
38:59
Speaker 1: rid of the all a tough situation preseason game, but
39:04
Speaker 1: it's like the first preseason game. He goes into the
39:07
Speaker 1: tent again, unlike a lot of his ones last year,
39:11
Speaker 1: but it is a theme and then he does a
39:13
Speaker 1: roll out incredible pass back of the end zone, which
39:16
Speaker 1: was sweet. So his high end playmaking is fantastic. It's
39:20
Speaker 1: what the Titans thought they were getting with Cam Woard.
39:23
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be can this guy play every week?
39:26
Speaker 1: I don't think most people think he doesn't have like
39:29
Speaker 1: the the the ability, right. You can't watch him and
39:34
Speaker 1: go this guy doesn't have the ability. It's more just
39:36
Speaker 1: is this guy too reckless? Which I feel bad saying
39:40
Speaker 1: because he wasn't reckless in that situation with the running back.
39:44
Speaker 1: Big fan and supporter of the podcast, I've got friends
39:47
Speaker 1: that listen to your pod because I told them about it.
39:51
Speaker 1: Just asking if you would give me a shout out
39:54
Speaker 1: see if you would respond, would be cool. I'm not
39:56
Speaker 1: gonna message you again. Sean Hobbs, I appreciate, buddy. What's
40:01
Speaker 1: your honest opinion of the Broncos this year? Everyone is
40:04
Speaker 1: talking about the Texas defense, but the Broncos led the
40:06
Speaker 1: league in sacks, best corner of the league. Also, what
40:08
Speaker 1: do you know about Davis Webb. I think the Broncos,
40:14
Speaker 1: you know, at I was gonna say their floor is ten.
40:19
Speaker 1: Their ceilings probably fifteen if you tell me, Bo Nicks
40:23
Speaker 1: like figures it all out Wattle. Addition, their running game
40:27
Speaker 1: takes another step. I mean, we know their defense is
40:29
Speaker 1: really good, even just better pass rush elite, Like, I
40:32
Speaker 1: don't see why they couldn't be the best team in
40:34
Speaker 1: the league. I do think the elephant in the room
40:39
Speaker 1: is offense has been Sean Payton's baby. That's kind of
40:44
Speaker 1: defined him calling place, you know, and I think you
40:50
Speaker 1: take that away from someone and you give it to
40:54
Speaker 1: a young guy, even if he is this hot shot.
40:56
Speaker 1: And I remember when he transferred to Cal when he
40:58
Speaker 1: was playing in college. He clearly is this rising star, right,
41:05
Speaker 1: this rising name, this former quarterback that everyone raves about.
41:12
Speaker 1: I mean, I've just heard what you've heard. I don't
41:14
Speaker 1: know anyone with the Broncos. I just kind of follow
41:17
Speaker 1: him from you know, public tweets and people writing articles
41:21
Speaker 1: about him. That's a lot of pressure, man, Yeah, I
41:25
Speaker 1: mean even if the offense was a little weird at times.
41:27
Speaker 1: Last year, when you make a play call and you
41:30
Speaker 1: know this guy right next to you has made every
41:34
Speaker 1: play call for decades, good and bad, thinks like I
41:39
Speaker 1: could have made a better play call. Could at any time.
41:41
Speaker 1: I know Sean Payton has said, I'm not going to
41:43
Speaker 1: take it away from him. This is not going to
41:45
Speaker 1: be a Jim Fossil two thousand and one with him.
41:48
Speaker 1: But you know, I and I'm not comparing Sean Payton
41:54
Speaker 1: to Warren Buffett, but it's like if you were trying
41:55
Speaker 1: to pick some stocks in front of Warren Buffet, it'd
41:57
Speaker 1: be pretty intimidating. You know. I just think you get
42:01
Speaker 1: yourself in some of these situations where obviously it has
42:04
Speaker 1: to take the jobs, and no brainer, the teams loaded
42:06
Speaker 1: probably gave a bunch of money. Not I wouldn't call
42:09
Speaker 1: it an easy gig. I mean, if you read that
42:12
Speaker 1: article on Sean Payton that Wickersham wrote, I mean the
42:15
Speaker 1: guy's a nut. I mean football coaches are nuts, and listen,
42:19
Speaker 1: I mean most successful people are nuts. Right. It's not
42:22
Speaker 1: often you meet someone ultra successful and oh, very normal
42:25
Speaker 1: balance guy. That's not the way alpha males in America
42:29
Speaker 1: really are. They're fucking nut jobs. Now they come in
42:32
Speaker 1: different shapes and sizes and nuttiness, but football coaches all
42:36
Speaker 1: share some of the same, like maniacal insecurities about not
42:42
Speaker 1: doing enough. It's why they stay in the office. Along
42:45
Speaker 1: that article on Sean Payton was like Jesus Now, Davis
42:49
Speaker 1: at a front row seat. He knows what he's dealing
42:51
Speaker 1: with and he knows the player, so it's not like
42:54
Speaker 1: Sean Mannion, that's a pressure pack job. But you know
42:59
Speaker 1: he's coming, and then he had to meet all the players.
43:01
Speaker 1: He's got to get to know him. He's got to
43:03
Speaker 1: get to know their strengths and weaknesses. He's got to
43:05
Speaker 1: get to know what it's like to be in the
43:06
Speaker 1: building every day and deal with Howie David. We haven't
43:09
Speaker 1: been there, so it's an easier transition from that standpoint,
43:12
Speaker 1: but it's you know, I would say a lot of
43:15
Speaker 1: people would say Sean Mannion has one of the more
43:17
Speaker 1: pressure pack jobs in the league this year, and I
43:19
Speaker 1: would agree. I'd say Davis Webbs right there. I know
43:23
Speaker 1: you've mentioned issues in the past with college football. Here's
43:26
Speaker 1: my hypothetical that I know will never happen. Return to
43:30
Speaker 1: five conferences only eight to ten of the top teams.
43:33
Speaker 1: Both historically and currently, each of the eight to ten
43:36
Speaker 1: teams from the conferences play in one division to make
43:40
Speaker 1: a league of about fifty teams. Schedule is set by
43:43
Speaker 1: the NCAA similar to the NFL, and playoff seating has
43:47
Speaker 1: done solely based on a record, similar to the NFL. Also,
43:50
Speaker 1: so you basically take ten teams, put him into five conferences,
43:56
Speaker 1: and play some version of like what the NFL does
43:59
Speaker 1: with the two conferences. The bottom three teams each will
44:03
Speaker 1: be relegated to the lower division, replaced by the first
44:06
Speaker 1: and second and third place teams from the lower division,
44:10
Speaker 1: meaning like Boise States, Fresno States, teams like that. Here's
44:14
Speaker 1: the problem. Everyone uses the international soccer teams for relegation
44:19
Speaker 1: the power of the NFL. Right, it's the NFL should
44:24
Speaker 1: relegate or you know that does not a really big conversation.
44:27
Speaker 1: But they're all in business together, right in college Rutgers
44:34
Speaker 1: and Ohio State. They aren't business together in the Big Ten,
44:38
Speaker 1: even though the Ohio State does not need Rutgers and
44:41
Speaker 1: Rutgers needs Ohio State. No different like the Cowboys don't
44:44
Speaker 1: need the Cardinals, right, the forty nine ers don't need
44:47
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, but they profit off those guys likeness and
44:51
Speaker 1: those guys playing in a bunch of big games. Same
44:53
Speaker 1: with the Titans. I saw staff today that since twenty
44:56
Speaker 1: twenty two, Scotty Scheffler the Golfer have there's more wins
45:00
Speaker 1: than the Titans and the Cardinals. Now, in fairness to
45:03
Speaker 1: the argument, the Titans and the Cardinals have not played
45:05
Speaker 1: a season this year, but what if they both suck
45:07
Speaker 1: and if Scotty wins the next two playoff events? So
45:10
Speaker 1: I just the NFL's power is its unity as a
45:15
Speaker 1: business in college While all the conferences are independent operators,
45:21
Speaker 1: their individual unity as a like the SEC's power is
45:25
Speaker 1: Ole miss Mississippi State, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky. They're all
45:30
Speaker 1: arm in arm Missouri. Right. It's why like the ACC
45:38
Speaker 1: feels kind of like in a weird spot where like
45:42
Speaker 1: Ohio State and USC and Oregon like they're all in
45:46
Speaker 1: it together. All the new teams that came into the
45:48
Speaker 1: conference like Collen Stanford would probably leave tomorrow if they'd
45:52
Speaker 1: get into Big Ten. I just think there are a
45:56
Speaker 1: lot of complications. I think the only way you could
45:59
Speaker 1: do a version of what you were saying, would do
46:02
Speaker 1: the equivalent of like, are there eighteen teams in the
46:07
Speaker 1: Big ten? Basically do the South and the North of
46:10
Speaker 1: like twenty four teams each? Because the North would be
46:13
Speaker 1: pretty easy. You could add Callen, Stanford, you could add
46:16
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, you could add maybe like a Boston College.
46:23
Speaker 1: You know, you could just add teams throughout the country.
46:26
Speaker 1: In the South would be cake, right. You could add
46:29
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, Duke. You could add team
46:34
Speaker 1: maybe the numbers twenty two each. I don't know the
46:36
Speaker 1: exact how many teams are in the SEC sixteen. I
46:40
Speaker 1: don't think you could have It's really difficult, but I
46:45
Speaker 1: think and listen, I Indiana is a good example because
46:49
Speaker 1: I heard someone going on this rant of like you're
46:52
Speaker 1: now in the big leagues. You know when you're in
46:54
Speaker 1: irrelevant football team, right, like like Mississippi State Rutgers, Rutgers
47:02
Speaker 1: is probably beout. Boston College might be a better example.
47:05
Speaker 1: Some of these programs that like the power of college
47:07
Speaker 1: football if they disappeared tomorrow. Mississippi State is probably a
47:10
Speaker 1: bad example on that one, but Boston College would be
47:13
Speaker 1: a better No one would notice I do think who
47:18
Speaker 1: you play in conference or I mean out of conference,
47:21
Speaker 1: no one cares, but like I think we respect. It's
47:23
Speaker 1: like okay, Ohio State, they're gonna play a Patsy or Texas,
47:26
Speaker 1: but they also are gonna play each other. You know,
47:28
Speaker 1: Miami play a Notre Dame like that's it's a real game.
47:31
Speaker 1: You know. That's why people got pissed off when USC
47:34
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame, Like that's it's a real We want
47:36
Speaker 1: these games, right, even Oregon like not playing Oregon State
47:39
Speaker 1: like I would like to see that game. Or Washington
47:41
Speaker 1: play Washington State like that's a real game. You know,
47:44
Speaker 1: even if the other team's gonna be favored most of
47:46
Speaker 1: the time, that's that's not exactly playing UC Davis, who
47:49
Speaker 1: Washington played last year. And I think we need to
47:52
Speaker 1: get to a point where one Indiana's gotta start playing
47:56
Speaker 1: some real teams out of conference, right, Like you don't
47:58
Speaker 1: need to play Alabama, but like you could play fucking
48:03
Speaker 1: I don't know, MC State or just some random power
48:06
Speaker 1: for team, which they, based on the schedule, have no
48:09
Speaker 1: intention of doing. And I think we need to get
48:13
Speaker 1: to the point where Indiana's USC's like the their schedule like,
48:19
Speaker 1: can you imagine being a USC fan in Week one,
48:22
Speaker 1: You're playing San Jose State? Who where time is our
48:29
Speaker 1: most valuable asset? I Am going to get in a
48:32
Speaker 1: car and watch you go play San Jose State. San
48:36
Speaker 1: Jose State should be playing Cal Paly, not USC Hell.
48:43
Speaker 1: I respect Ucla. The first game they're playing Cal Like,
48:45
Speaker 1: it's a real So if you're a football fan, like
48:49
Speaker 1: you're just like Ucla Cal Like, that's a real game.
48:53
Speaker 1: USC Santose State just simply is not. The past few
48:59
Speaker 1: years I've been out of the country, your pott has
49:01
Speaker 1: provided me a nice taste of the home. I appreciate that.
49:04
Speaker 1: My question, do you think the Dolphins will put together
49:06
Speaker 1: a competent football team in the next decade. I'm twenty
49:08
Speaker 1: three and I've been a lifelong fan, yet I've never
49:10
Speaker 1: really felt hope. Even during the twenty three team, with
49:14
Speaker 1: our historically dominant offense, it felt like the organization just
49:17
Speaker 1: doesn't have the weight behind it to make a deep
49:18
Speaker 1: playoff run. I saw this clip of I don't know
49:22
Speaker 1: if it's a press conference podcast, might might have been
49:26
Speaker 1: a press conference. He kind of admitted We're probably not
49:29
Speaker 1: gonna be that good this year now, I didn't watch
49:32
Speaker 1: the game, but I heard someone say their first drive,
49:34
Speaker 1: Milik Willis didn't go like four or five led you
49:36
Speaker 1: on a touchdown drive. Milik Willis is pretty good. Like
49:39
Speaker 1: he's not my Homes or Josh Allen or Dak or Gop,
49:42
Speaker 1: but like Mileak Wells, I think it's a pretty good quarterback.
49:45
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of teams that the
49:47
Speaker 1: Browns would sell their left nut right now to get
49:49
Speaker 1: Milik Willis. The Jets would love to have Milik Willis
49:53
Speaker 1: on their team. There are a lot of teams that
49:54
Speaker 1: would the Falcons. You know, Malik Willis could play backwards.
49:58
Speaker 1: Need be better than to a to I'll go by looa.
50:00
Speaker 1: So you've upgraded a quarterback. Now the receivers, could their
50:05
Speaker 1: offensive line be a little bit better. Defensively might not
50:08
Speaker 1: be that great. So it's gonna be difficult. But part
50:14
Speaker 1: of like breaking it down to the studs, which everyone
50:17
Speaker 1: always wants you to do when your team sucks, They're like,
50:20
Speaker 1: let's just tank. Well, part of tanking then is to
50:22
Speaker 1: get the right player. Sam Hanky's like, trust the process.
50:26
Speaker 1: It's like, Sam, didn't you take jaliel Okaffer? I wanted
50:31
Speaker 1: to crush him for Ben Simmons, but Ben Simmons xually
50:33
Speaker 1: is pretty good for a while. But it's like part
50:36
Speaker 1: of the process. Then you got to hit the picks,
50:38
Speaker 1: like the Raiders trade Khalil Mack and then just drafted
50:40
Speaker 1: a bunch of scrubs. So I would say it's this
50:46
Speaker 1: is the shittiest part about being a sportsman, because it's like, Okay,
50:50
Speaker 1: we're just gonna suck. We just got to keep our
50:52
Speaker 1: fingers crossed that we've just nailed every pick for the
50:56
Speaker 1: next couple of years. It's the only way to turn around.
50:59
Speaker 1: I like those guys though, I mean, I think Althley's
51:02
Speaker 1: really really impressive. Eric Sullivan every time I you know,
51:08
Speaker 1: people really like him in the NFL. I'm rooting for
51:11
Speaker 1: those guys to figure it out. I've always argued might
51:15
Speaker 1: not be able to win there in the day and
51:17
Speaker 1: age with the amount of money. It's like, well they
51:20
Speaker 1: do it Mario's doing in college, and you have a
51:22
Speaker 1: wells free time in college, you just do in the
51:26
Speaker 1: NFL you have way more free time, and you also
51:29
Speaker 1: have more money. I mean, how many guys in Miami
51:31
Speaker 1: are truly making like unlimited money Once your team gets
51:35
Speaker 1: good how many guys in your team in five years
51:37
Speaker 1: are gonna be making over twenty million dollars. So I
51:41
Speaker 1: just think it's difficult. Plus how many cold weather games
51:46
Speaker 1: is the University of Miami play? You know, In the NFL,
51:50
Speaker 1: it's a much bigger deal because in college football you're
51:53
Speaker 1: kind of done middle of November, right, and even their championship,
51:58
Speaker 1: the a SEC championship games what Charlotte, and then all
52:01
Speaker 1: the playoff games, you know, are typically in a confined environment.
52:06
Speaker 1: Last year, I guess Miami went on the road the
52:08
Speaker 1: first game at A and M. It was like windy,
52:10
Speaker 1: it wasn't like freezing cold. I guess this year they
52:14
Speaker 1: go to a Notre Dame right late in the season.
52:17
Speaker 1: That's a big advantage for Notre Dame. Unfortunately, I'm a
52:33
Speaker 1: Falcons fan. I remember a couple of years ago that
52:36
Speaker 1: Maddie Ice made the comment that he was really impressed
52:39
Speaker 1: with Tyson Badget any chance the Falcons make a trade.
52:44
Speaker 1: If you're ever in Nashville, let's rip some tequila sotis
52:48
Speaker 1: sounds amazing right now, Actually, Jack, we'll do that to you.
52:52
Speaker 1: I would say this year during the season, I would
52:57
Speaker 1: be stunned. I would imagine that they just ride it
53:01
Speaker 1: out with those two guys, and then next year is
53:05
Speaker 1: he a free agent. His contract extension was actually for
53:11
Speaker 1: this year and next year. It's pretty good business. Maybe
53:15
Speaker 1: they would trade for him in the offseason. I could
53:18
Speaker 1: see that, but it wouldn't come cheap. You know, it's
53:23
Speaker 1: not like they'd get him for like a fourth So
53:25
Speaker 1: I don't know what their draft situation is. I doubt
53:31
Speaker 1: they would trade him this year. I mean, he if
53:33
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson really likes him, which he clearly does. Having
53:37
Speaker 1: a guy that you were paying for the next two
53:40
Speaker 1: years four point two million dollars and four point two
53:43
Speaker 1: million dollars, that's really valuables. Like what if Caleb rolls
53:47
Speaker 1: an ankle and misses a month it gets a high
53:50
Speaker 1: ankle spring. You have a guy that you think, oh,
53:52
Speaker 1: we can go to and two. I mean that's the
53:54
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They signed Mac Jones two year, seven
53:56
Speaker 1: million dollars. Some of these quarterbacks cost I mean, guard
54:00
Speaker 1: Or Minchew last year with the Raiders was like ten
54:01
Speaker 1: million dollars. Jacobe Brissette, who was pretty good last year,
54:05
Speaker 1: but like historically, you can be a little underwhelming just
54:08
Speaker 1: making fifteen million dollars, I'm getting a guy for four.
54:15
Speaker 1: I think they would make you trade a decent amount.
54:17
Speaker 1: But Matt Ryan and Ryan Poles were like really close.
54:20
Speaker 1: I mean Poles blocked for him in college. That's I
54:24
Speaker 1: didn't think about that. That's that's fucking that's a good take.
54:29
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would happen during the year.
54:31
Speaker 1: I could see that being next year combine, because I
54:35
Speaker 1: do think this year, if I was Arthur Blank or
54:39
Speaker 1: the Blank kids, assuming he his kids also run it,
54:42
Speaker 1: because Arthur is like ninety years old, is I'd be like, hey,
54:45
Speaker 1: we just took this guy at the eighth pick overall.
54:47
Speaker 1: Whenever he can come back, he says he's got the
54:49
Speaker 1: best knee in America. We'll see this guy can play
54:52
Speaker 1: because we got Bijon, we got Pits, we got Drake London. Like,
54:55
Speaker 1: see if he can play. If next year we got
54:56
Speaker 1: to move on, we got to move on. But I
54:59
Speaker 1: think they just try to get Pennis back and see
55:01
Speaker 1: what they got there. I think they're gonna be terrible.
55:05
Speaker 1: I mean, Stefanski won, Their defense is gonna be any
55:07
Speaker 1: good and he's had good defenses in Cleveland and offensively
55:11
Speaker 1: hasn't really showed himself to be like you know, Mike
55:14
Speaker 1: Shanahan or Mike Holmgren in his prime, Stefanski, the last
55:17
Speaker 1: couple of years on offense was horrendous. I mean, didn't
55:21
Speaker 1: let you know, it's funny as everyone makes fun of
55:23
Speaker 1: the Cowboys worst defense of all time? Didn't they legitimately
55:26
Speaker 1: have one of, if not the worst offensive all time,
55:29
Speaker 1: which is hard to do in twenty twenty six or five.
55:32
Speaker 1: Like that used to happen a lot more in like
55:33
Speaker 1: the eighties and the nineties when it was hard to
55:35
Speaker 1: play offense. I think I missed this guy's question. Maybe
55:39
Speaker 1: I started reading it, he said, Then I got lost
55:42
Speaker 1: and started talking about something else. What do you think
55:44
Speaker 1: it will take for Josh to be considered an all
55:45
Speaker 1: time great quarterback? If he were to win a Super
55:48
Speaker 1: Bowl this year or even just get to one, would
55:50
Speaker 1: he already be there with his resume and the on
55:55
Speaker 1: the field eye test, or would he still need to
55:57
Speaker 1: put up numbers and keep making the playoffs for another
56:00
Speaker 1: half decade? Well? I think when you talk about all
56:03
Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks of all time, right, I mean Brady
56:06
Speaker 1: played for like seventy years, Peyton Manning got in the
56:10
Speaker 1: league what ninety eight and played till twenty sixteen, so
56:14
Speaker 1: almost twenty years. Drew Brees was Sean Payton's quarterback for
56:18
Speaker 1: like fifteen years. Mahomes, you know what's this year eight?
56:25
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's Josh Allen thirty years old?
56:28
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers hit the scene like really two thousand and
56:31
Speaker 1: nine and then was ripping MVPs into the twenty twenties. So,
56:36
Speaker 1: I mean, part of being an all time great player
56:38
Speaker 1: is doing it for a long period of time. When
56:41
Speaker 1: it was Brett Farre's first year starting like ninety five,
56:44
Speaker 1: when did you take Minnesota to the NFC Championship Game?
56:48
Speaker 1: Oh nine, So it's like part of greatness at that
56:52
Speaker 1: position is doing it forever, you know. I mean Joe
56:56
Speaker 1: Montana's career a little shorter seventy nine, by like early nineties,
57:01
Speaker 1: he was gone, but then he went to the Chiefs,
57:04
Speaker 1: had a couple of years. Who am I missing Marino
57:09
Speaker 1: l Way. I mean, these guys all had long careers,
57:12
Speaker 1: So I think another five years. I think he becomes
57:15
Speaker 1: one of the all time greatest quarterbacks if he wins
57:17
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, because the eye test speaks for itself.
57:21
Speaker 1: He goes to the playoffs every single year, right, and
57:23
Speaker 1: then like, let's be real, Rogers packer career, the super
57:28
Speaker 1: Bowl was the defining moment, but then he had a
57:31
Speaker 1: lot of games which it wasn't his fall all the time.
57:33
Speaker 1: But it's not like his team was just going to
57:35
Speaker 1: the super Bowl every year. And to me, Josh like,
57:39
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna go He's not gonna
57:40
Speaker 1: go down as like the best quarterback ever, but he
57:43
Speaker 1: is in the conversation for like most talented quarterback ever, right,
57:47
Speaker 1: because even the guy in his own era is the
57:50
Speaker 1: way more accomplished quarterback, but John Josh is like physically superior.
57:57
Speaker 1: So it's like, I do think winning that Super Bowl
58:00
Speaker 1: is a really big accomplishment. Like how much different would
58:03
Speaker 1: we talk about Rogers if he just he actually beat
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Speaker 1: us When I was my first year with the Eagles
58:08
Speaker 1: the year he won the super Bowl in the in
58:10
Speaker 1: the playoffs and then he went on that run. You know,
58:13
Speaker 1: remember Cutler got hurt in the NFCL. But it's like
58:15
Speaker 1: that year doesn't happen and they just get bounced in
58:17
Speaker 1: the second round and Rodgers just never has a Super Bowl.
58:21
Speaker 1: His trump card is always like I'm a champion, and
58:23
Speaker 1: I got all this other stuff. So once you become
58:26
Speaker 1: a champion, it's like Lebron, we spend so much time.
58:29
Speaker 1: He's got four championships, doesn't Jordan Like you got to
58:33
Speaker 1: a bunch of NBA finals like that. Getting to the
58:35
Speaker 1: super Bowl and losing is a big deal. Like Patrick
58:38
Speaker 1: Mahomes has been to the Super Bowl and lost. You
58:41
Speaker 1: get credit for that. It's like, how many super Bowls
58:44
Speaker 1: did Brady go do? He didn't just go to six
58:46
Speaker 1: or seven, he went to He lost three times. What's
58:51
Speaker 1: won the conference? I got no issue with losing in
58:55
Speaker 1: the super Bowl as like an additive to your resume,
58:58
Speaker 1: better than like losing in the first round. Okay. Couple
59:02
Speaker 1: more is the dynamic we're seeing between Mike McDonald and
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold in camp where the head coach is directly
59:09
Speaker 1: going against the starting quarterback with the defensive play calling,
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Speaker 1: something you're more likely to see now than during the
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Speaker 1: regular season. Once the starters typically face the scout team,
59:19
Speaker 1: does the direct head coach first quarterback competition dynamic largely disappear? Also,
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Speaker 1: how would this evolve having won a super Bowl in
59:29
Speaker 1: their first year together. I think it depends on the team,
59:32
Speaker 1: Like when you're going over your game plan plays, you
59:37
Speaker 1: are going to be going up against the scout team.
59:40
Speaker 1: So like the offense and the defense separate. Obviously Mike
59:44
Speaker 1: as the defensive coordinator would go with the defense and
59:47
Speaker 1: his offensive. Is why it's very you know, we talk
59:50
Speaker 1: about coordinators with head coaches on the opposite side of
59:54
Speaker 1: the ball as them, you get a lot of ownership
59:57
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball because if the guy
59:59
Speaker 1: if the it's a defensive head coach and he's also
1:00:01
Speaker 1: calling the plays, well, he's not gonna be watching the
1:00:03
Speaker 1: He might watch the tape later, but he's gonna be
1:00:06
Speaker 1: with his unit. Now you have periods unlike camp where
1:00:11
Speaker 1: you probably could just get some reps against each other,
1:00:14
Speaker 1: but depending on the coach. I don't think it's a
1:00:16
Speaker 1: lot because most practices work in some form or fashion
1:00:21
Speaker 1: of you get out there, you stretch or you do
1:00:23
Speaker 1: some walk through. Then you do individual where everyone breaks
1:00:27
Speaker 1: up in positions. Then you do group which is like
1:00:31
Speaker 1: you know, wide receivers, dbs, running backs, linebackers, d line,
1:00:34
Speaker 1: O line kind of some of that, and then you
1:00:37
Speaker 1: start getting more into the team. But during the season,
1:00:40
Speaker 1: the team is pretty focused on game plan plays and
1:00:46
Speaker 1: then depending like if a coach wants to kind of
1:00:49
Speaker 1: infuse a little action, they'll go ones on ones. But like,
1:00:53
Speaker 1: what are you are you just running your own plays
1:00:56
Speaker 1: with them running their defensive plays. Maybe if you're facing
1:01:00
Speaker 1: a similar defense, but you also don't want to get
1:01:03
Speaker 1: you know, anyone injured in practice, so you do it
1:01:06
Speaker 1: way less. Could be wrong. I haven't been to an
1:01:10
Speaker 1: NFL practice in a long time because even as a
1:01:14
Speaker 1: media man, you don't have access to the rail season practice.
1:01:17
Speaker 1: Kind of mysterious, honestly, and I think it changes throughout,
1:01:23
Speaker 1: you know, I think walkthroughs have become a huge part
1:01:28
Speaker 1: of the modern day NFL, and that is definitely not
1:01:33
Speaker 1: you know, offens is walking through and the defense walk
1:01:36
Speaker 1: They're split. That's why a lot of these people, you know,
1:01:39
Speaker 1: players talk about like, you know a lot of times
1:01:41
Speaker 1: you don't spend I saw Cousins. He told uh he
1:01:45
Speaker 1: was on Busted with the Boys podcast with all the quarterbacks.
1:01:48
Speaker 1: Kind of funny and he says. One thing unique that
1:01:51
Speaker 1: Kubiak does that some other teams I've been on don't
1:01:54
Speaker 1: is like we watch a lot of tape as an
1:01:56
Speaker 1: offensive unit, right, so the wide receivers are there, the
1:02:00
Speaker 1: o linemen are there. A lot of teams split it,
1:02:04
Speaker 1: so the quarterbacks watch, the wide receivers watch. They all
1:02:07
Speaker 1: kind of watch independently of each other. And that's just
1:02:10
Speaker 1: on the same side of the ball, let alone, like
1:02:14
Speaker 1: beside the team meeting. You know, your running backs never
1:02:18
Speaker 1: watching film with the dB, so it's kind of the
1:02:21
Speaker 1: same thing with the coaches. It's very split. I guess
1:02:25
Speaker 1: we'll just end on this question for the podcast. I'm
1:02:28
Speaker 1: getting offered a position in my high school I went to.
1:02:32
Speaker 1: I went to be an assistant freshman football coach. What
1:02:36
Speaker 1: coaching advice can you give me about coaching football? I've
1:02:39
Speaker 1: also coached baseball the last couple of years. I'm only twenty.
1:02:44
Speaker 1: Was wondering if there's more to it with it being
1:02:47
Speaker 1: a higher contact sport to make it seem like I'm
1:02:50
Speaker 1: not new to it. I played football and baseball in
1:02:52
Speaker 1: high school when I was there as well. It's a
1:02:55
Speaker 1: good question. I never played baseball past Little League, so
1:02:59
Speaker 1: I can't speak to baseball practice. But a huge part
1:03:04
Speaker 1: of football practice is literally pushing guys physically, especially high
1:03:09
Speaker 1: school kids. It's kind of and you're getting a chance
1:03:12
Speaker 1: to mold. These guys who are gonna like have their
1:03:15
Speaker 1: whole life ahead. And for the overwhelming majority of guys,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: if you coach there for the next ten years, that
1:03:21
Speaker 1: are gonna strap it up. Whether you go from freshmen
1:03:24
Speaker 1: up to the varsity team, this will be the last
1:03:26
Speaker 1: time they ever play high school football, or ever play football.
1:03:29
Speaker 1: We'll be in high school and they will remember and
1:03:31
Speaker 1: talk about these times the rest of their life, some
1:03:33
Speaker 1: more than others. So it's like a really cool time
1:03:36
Speaker 1: and those you know, double days don't exist. But like
1:03:40
Speaker 1: I was talking to my cousin the other day, who
1:03:43
Speaker 1: was a walk on at ucla really good high school player,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: and we were talking about how hot Like people talk
1:03:48
Speaker 1: about football season and like the different changing seasons that
1:03:50
Speaker 1: we were Like, well, I think football season, I think heat.
1:03:53
Speaker 1: Like when I played high school football, I remember having
1:03:55
Speaker 1: double days in like one hundred and seven degrees. When
1:03:58
Speaker 1: I worked at Fresno State, we had double days one
1:04:00
Speaker 1: hundred and ten. You might play a game in the cold,
1:04:04
Speaker 1: but when I think of football, I think heat, you know,
1:04:07
Speaker 1: for on the West coast, and you know those times
1:04:11
Speaker 1: that bonding time pushing kit young kids to like maybe
1:04:15
Speaker 1: past where they thought they could go. You know, football
1:04:18
Speaker 1: is a sport too where you know, you don't got
1:04:21
Speaker 1: to be the biggest athlete or fastest guy to be
1:04:24
Speaker 1: a decent player if you try hard. So like push
1:04:27
Speaker 1: these guys to try really hard. And you know, in
1:04:31
Speaker 1: a lot of other sports, there's not as much barking
1:04:33
Speaker 1: right in kind of coaching. Right in baseball, like you
1:04:38
Speaker 1: can pull a guy out and put another guy up
1:04:41
Speaker 1: a bat, you can move a guy from third to
1:04:42
Speaker 1: second or whatever. Like in football, you obviously schematically can
1:04:46
Speaker 1: have a lot of impact, but you can have a
1:04:48
Speaker 1: lot of impact just simply like pushing a human being.
1:04:52
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's like, I'm not comparing freshman football
1:04:56
Speaker 1: like the Navy Seals or whatever, but like the highest
1:04:58
Speaker 1: levels of like mental war fair and pushing guys beyond
1:05:02
Speaker 1: their limits of what they didn't think was possible. Like
1:05:05
Speaker 1: that these are times that could change some of these guys'
1:05:08
Speaker 1: lives of like god, I you know, and really build
1:05:11
Speaker 1: confidence as they go on to college, go into the
1:05:13
Speaker 1: business world, get married, have a family, tease their own kids,
1:05:17
Speaker 1: look back at the power of football and want their
1:05:19
Speaker 1: kids to play football, love football watching it because there's
1:05:23
Speaker 1: you know, I was at a wedding three four months
1:05:25
Speaker 1: ago with a bunch of my buddies that I played
1:05:26
Speaker 1: high school football with, and you know, we had cocktails
1:05:30
Speaker 1: until they shut down the bar. It was, and we
1:05:33
Speaker 1: were like a six and five high school football tam
1:05:36
Speaker 1: I played high school football with them all. We were
1:05:37
Speaker 1: all in the same grade, since we were in freshman
1:05:40
Speaker 1: ninth grade up through senior year. And it's just it's
1:05:42
Speaker 1: no different than if you play in the NFL. You
1:05:44
Speaker 1: get back with your you know, NFL buddies, it's like
1:05:47
Speaker 1: you're kind of bonded by it. Fucking sucks. Most of
1:05:52
Speaker 1: your stories are how miserable it was, how hot it was,
1:05:56
Speaker 1: how fun it was getting drunk after the game or whatever.
1:06:00
Speaker 1: It's just a great time to mold kids that are
1:06:04
Speaker 1: just you know, probably not listening to their parents at
1:06:07
Speaker 1: that time, but they will listen to their coaches. They
1:06:09
Speaker 1: might get mad at them too, but they'll and I
1:06:13
Speaker 1: would say balance of like being a hard ass. You know,
1:06:15
Speaker 1: you don't want to be like trying to be new
1:06:18
Speaker 1: Rockney out there, you know, or Vince Lombardi. But like
1:06:21
Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty powerful position high school football coaches.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: I bet if you ask most people to play high
1:06:27
Speaker 1: school football, they could name like five of their coaches,
1:06:31
Speaker 1: you know, the different coaches on their team, right off
1:06:34
Speaker 1: the top of their head. No different if you played
1:06:36
Speaker 1: in college, you could just name your staffs, right you
1:06:39
Speaker 1: just you remember those people because you're just you spend
1:06:42
Speaker 1: a lot of time and the relationship you have with
1:06:44
Speaker 1: them is it's kind of unique, you know, and getting
1:06:49
Speaker 1: to see it at the highest levels, like watching coach
1:06:52
Speaker 1: Hill at Freso State with all his players, watching Andy
1:06:54
Speaker 1: with all his players, you know, watching all the different
1:06:57
Speaker 1: position coaches with their guys, watching the you know, the
1:07:01
Speaker 1: impact they have on these guys, especially though in college,
1:07:04
Speaker 1: in high school, uh, you know, going on to become
1:07:08
Speaker 1: men because ultimately, like the future of society, like the
1:07:14
Speaker 1: think about the future of society, especially you know, seeing
1:07:17
Speaker 1: some stuff on the internet. Probably the best chance to
1:07:20
Speaker 1: keep this country rolling is with some of these guys
1:07:23
Speaker 1: out there on the field all over America right now.
1:07:26
Speaker 1: So I'm rooting for you, buddy. Good luck to you,
1:07:28
Speaker 1: God speed.
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