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Breaking Down the Big Week 4 Games · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky.
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  Speaker 2: Brooks and then going going back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I uh, you know, had another another night
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  Speaker 2: at the studio last night doing Game Day highlights in
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  Speaker 2: Game Day Final, which is kind of interesting because you
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  Speaker 2: do kind of get to sit and take it all
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  Speaker 2: in a little bit more then let's say when I'm
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  Speaker 2: on Game Day Live and you know, kind of subject
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  Speaker 2: My thoughts about the game were kind of subject to
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  Speaker 2: the highlights that we end up showing, because a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times to go back and watch the watch the
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  Speaker 2: tape the next day and you're like, whoa this, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't show this. So it's kind of good to kind
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  Speaker 2: of get a broader sense of what's happening with all
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  Speaker 2: the games. But uh, but yeah, yeah, it was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Sunday, no doubt, We're going to go through eight games
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  Speaker 1: that we dialed in on and touch on a couple
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  Speaker 1: of the other ones at the end. But I'll start
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  Speaker 1: as I always do, with the game I was at,
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  Speaker 1: which is a theme that we have each and every
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  Speaker 1: week with the Chargers. I say it, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: if they're playing the best team in the league, the
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  Speaker 1: worst team in the league. It doesn't matter if they're
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  Speaker 1: up thirty down thirty. You know it's going to come
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  Speaker 1: down to the last possession of the game. And here
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  Speaker 1: we are once again. They run out to a twenty
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  Speaker 1: four to seven lead, the Raiders starting Aidan O'Connell, who
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  Speaker 1: will get to in a minute, making his first start.
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  Speaker 1: It just looked like everything was kind of going their
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  Speaker 1: way and then all of a sudden, now you've got
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  Speaker 1: you know, you've you've got an offense it's stalled out.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a defense that is allowed a young quarterback
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  Speaker 1: kind of find his rhythm and work with DeVante Adams
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  Speaker 1: and get them back in the ballgame. You have once again,
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  Speaker 1: which I know I'll let you get to on the
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  Speaker 1: on the coaching decision to go for it deep in
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  Speaker 1: your territory, something that Brandon Staley's done. A bunch of
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  Speaker 1: all the complaints last week were about a you know,
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  Speaker 1: the play call, not the decision. So they do what
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  Speaker 1: everybody thought they should have done last week and that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work. We'll get to all of it, but my biggest,
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  Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway from this game was it gets lost
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the Raiders are playing a backup, but
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  Speaker 1: this is a Chargers team. Mike Williams, you lose him
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  Speaker 1: for the year. Corey Linsley is on IR. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he's going to come back or not. You're
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  Speaker 1: missing Joey Bosa, You're missing Derwin James, You're missing a
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  Speaker 1: Lowe Gilman, You're missing j T. Woods. They're missing their
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  Speaker 1: top three safeties. They're missing their best edge rusher and
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  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. They're missing their defensive captain in Derwin's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of guys out of the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like Rashaun Slater was kind of playing through
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  Speaker 1: something he didn't like. He was one hundred percent healthy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they won a game, So at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: style points don't really matter. You found a way you
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  Speaker 1: won a game without a lot of guys, and the
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  Speaker 1: buy comes for them right now. They're going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to come back after the buy a Monday nighter
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  Speaker 1: at home against Dallas, which should be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exciting, you know, to kind of understand how
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  Speaker 2: shorthanded you were, and then to also see some of
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  Speaker 2: your guys you know who were there step up, you know,
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: like Khalil Mack, you know as your vintage from like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, five years ago, Khalil Mack type of
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  Speaker 2: performance where he was just unblockable. Now again, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: it helped set you add a rookie quarterback who was
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  Speaker 2: still trying to assess things and work through progressions and
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  Speaker 2: maybe just a little a couple of beats slow on
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  Speaker 2: getting that ball out of his hands.
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  Speaker 1: At one point in time. At one point time, right,
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  Speaker 1: I did say during the broadcast, does he know this
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  Speaker 1: is not Marshall. You're not at Purdue, and this is
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  Speaker 1: you're not playing like a non league game against Marshall here,
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  Speaker 1: Like he has just settled in there, Pat Pat Pat
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  Speaker 1: Pat sack fumble? Uh, just the clock. It took him
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  Speaker 1: a minute to get up to speed.
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  Speaker 2: It did. Now, he made some good throws in this game,
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  Speaker 2: like the throat of DeVante. Did you know on that
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  Speaker 2: what was that that third down down inside the ten
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  Speaker 2: to give him an opportunity there? You know, he made
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  Speaker 2: some He made some plays in the game, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the first drive was nice, right, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: drop back and throw the ball thirty nine times, you
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  Speaker 2: know in your first start, you know, as a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: It's asking a lot of it, but you know, game
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  Speaker 2: kind of dictated it. They were down, you know, quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. Okay, So I'll get to I'll get to
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  Speaker 2: the point here on Khalil and Aidan O'Connell, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: kind of we'll kind of get in there a little
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  Speaker 2: bit because you know, I think we liked a lot
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  Speaker 2: of what we saw in the preseason for Aiden O'Connell,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, you got to take into consideration what
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  Speaker 2: was he going up against, you know, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more of vanilla on both sides of the ball. Things
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  Speaker 2: were a little bit simpler, and you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's got the accuracy and so that that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what that's kind of his deal. But he's not really athletic,
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  Speaker 2: and so when you're holding the ball for too well,
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  Speaker 2: you are a sitting duck back there. And obviously Khalil Mack,
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  Speaker 2: who talked to Melanie Collins on the CBS broadcast afterwards,
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  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, Number four was holding it a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and so they really got after him there. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they were seeing that and he was clearly teeing off
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  Speaker 2: and feasting on it. So that was just kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a that was a confluence of events there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a young quarterback trying to find his way, and then
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  Speaker 2: Khalil Mack playing, you know, like the All Pro that
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  Speaker 2: he has been in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple other things on top of that. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: I'd just as soon to see Aidan O'Connell the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the year for the Raiders. What are we doing here?
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  Speaker 1: This team is not good. This team has three players.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you look at him and you're getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for this game, I mean we'll start in the sad tight.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Jermaine Illuminor is not an NFL starting
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  Speaker 1: right tackle. And he got warning. I knew coming into
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  Speaker 1: the game. I said, Tuley Plow two and Khalil Mack
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  Speaker 1: are gonna be fighting each other to see who gets
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  Speaker 1: to rush over that side, and they got him for
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  Speaker 1: six sacks. But you look at the team, Max Crosby,
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  Speaker 1: elite player, Davante Adams, obviously elite player. Josh Jacobs is
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  Speaker 1: a really really good player. They have three guys. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this roster is not good. It's in bad shape.
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  Speaker 1: And at this point time, Jimmy Garoppolo is not your future,
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  Speaker 1: so you might as well just see what you have
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  Speaker 1: in the rookie here. Let Aidan O'Connell play. He got
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  Speaker 1: better as the game went along. He was able to
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  Speaker 1: adjust to the speed he sped his clock up. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that deep out he hit the Devonte Adams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a really nice ball. He had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of deep balls that were good throws. Obviously, the costly
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  Speaker 1: pick there at the end, uh to a Santa Samwich
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  Speaker 1: just sitting there in a trap. But again that I
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  Speaker 1: put that more on the play caller than I do
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  Speaker 1: on him. Your first and goal with the four run
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  Speaker 1: the ball four times and tie the game? What are
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: He's also not really a sprint right player to me? No, no,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. No, you know, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I guess you know you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to you want to change up too much of what
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  Speaker 2: you do. But man, that's yeah, that's a tough one. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: didn't see Sante, I don't. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 2: of this you're able to see that? Did you see
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  Speaker 2: the tillery uh last on the sideline? I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: do you what are you? What are we doing? Not?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean we kind of we viscerrated
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  Speaker 1: him on the broadcast. I mean, obviously it's a Chargers broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: He's a former Charger player. Didn't end well there, It
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  Speaker 1: was such an over the top He's going to get
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  Speaker 1: a huge fine on that thing. And just and you
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  Speaker 1: can see that, what tells you everything about that replay?
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  Speaker 1: Watch it in slow motion and watch Max Crosby, who's
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  Speaker 1: the only other Raider saw too. He just puts his
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  Speaker 1: hands up like just like, what are you doing? Just
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  Speaker 1: a dumb, dumb play. But anyways, the Chargers they get
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  Speaker 1: a win without all those guys. I think they come
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  Speaker 1: out bye. I think you probably have Eckler back, you
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  Speaker 1: probably have Doing back, you probably have Bosa back. So
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  Speaker 1: the reinforcement's coming for them. And I look in an
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  Speaker 1: AFC where everything's kind of jumbled up. They're sitting at
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  Speaker 1: two and two, kind of right in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing. The next game on the list is
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  Speaker 1: one for you RHTT and that is the Rams and
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  Speaker 1: the Colts, and maybe with one of the more entertaining
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  Speaker 1: games of the whole weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Well wait, hang on one second, just just to quickly
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  Speaker 2: go back on the on the fourth and one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we didn't do that go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't get to that. So nobody gets
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  Speaker 2: delta twelve. Nobody gets delta twelve more versus the two
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  Speaker 2: than Brandon Staley, and he's going to go for he Look,
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  Speaker 2: you got to appreciate the consistency, Right, He's going to
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  Speaker 2: keep going for He's going to keep doing it. You
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  Speaker 2: know at some point, you know, you felt like at
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  Speaker 2: that point with the the bum finger and hand, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't the time for the QB sneak, Like you're
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  Speaker 1: worried about ball security there. He wasn't good on the
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  Speaker 1: QB sneak earlier in the game either, right, was not great.
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  Speaker 2: So I wonder if the lack of success in those
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  Speaker 2: situations then has to factor into the analytics side of it, Right,
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  Speaker 2: do you have to plug that data in and say that, hey, look,
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  Speaker 2: we just haven't been good in these situations. Maybe even
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  Speaker 2: though the win percentage is up there, in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the situation, maybe it's not the best situation for us.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, does that factor in in your opinion?
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  Speaker 2: So we talked to him after the game and he
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  Speaker 2: was obviously he was in good mood. It was a
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  Speaker 2: big win, and we brought this up towards the end
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  Speaker 2: of the conversation, and it was almost he was almost
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  Speaker 2: exasperated because I'm sure he just got grilled by the
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  Speaker 2: media and before he came to us on the radio
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  Speaker 2: side of things, and he just said, look, at some
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  Speaker 2: point time, our guy's got to make a dank play.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll keep answering these questions, but at some
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  Speaker 2: point time, like we're giving you the opportunity here, we
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: make a play. And the interesting thing is, if you
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  Speaker 2: look back on it, last year against Cleveland, didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't lose the game. This year, last week they
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  Speaker 1: don't get it. They win the game. This week, they
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  Speaker 1: don't get it, they win.
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  Speaker 2: The game game.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody can point to the Raider elimination game where they
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  Speaker 1: went for it. I big on their own eight team,
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  Speaker 1: but that wasn't the deciding factor in the game. There
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of game left that, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: go into overtime, it didn't end up being the nail
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  Speaker 1: in the coffin, so to speak. So in some ways,
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  Speaker 1: their team, even though you're not getting it, the defenses,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has responded and stayed alive in these games
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  Speaker 1: and they've been able to hold on. But He was
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  Speaker 1: almost exasperated with the word like, guys, come on, come on,
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  Speaker 1: I won't have to answer these questions. If you just
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  Speaker 1: get me a stinking yard. Can we get a yard
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  Speaker 1: and finish the game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you can understand it from
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  Speaker 2: that point of view, But you're also down your starting
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  Speaker 2: center and your quarterback is a little bit banged up,
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  Speaker 2: and you're wondering, you know, how much does all that
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  Speaker 2: way in to the decision making fact process, And so
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: we'll see, my guess is not that much moving forward,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: and we're still going to see those types of calls,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I don't think that's going
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  Speaker 1: to change. So yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rams and Colts. This was an otique game. This
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  Speaker 2: is a game though that the Rams looked like they
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  Speaker 2: were going to run away with early. We jump out
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  Speaker 2: to a fourteen to nothing, leather up twenty three to
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  Speaker 2: nothing in the second half and into the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a two score ball game. And Anthony
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Richardson starts to catch fire a little bit. And so
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  Speaker 2: I'll start with with Richardson on the comeback, and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to my favorite part of the game, right
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  Speaker 2: I thought he had really good poison in the pocket
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  Speaker 2: in the in the fourth quarter in this game. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I really went and watched. He had deep shot
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  Speaker 2: play to let Pierce go up and make one. He
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: showed some off platform arm strength that you love from him.
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  Speaker 2: He was on time and some tight window throws to
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  Speaker 2: drew ogle Tree down when they really needed it. Well
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  Speaker 2: placed out route dropped in on the third and four.
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  Speaker 2: The fourth and four I thought was really good down
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: the stretch because he kept his eyes downfield as he
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: was drifting out of the pocket. I think a lot
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: of times you see a player with that kind of
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: ability look to run. He was looking to make the
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: play down the field. Thought that was really cool. Doesn't
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: get fully around enough, but man his like fully like
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: didn't get his hips fully square to the line, but
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: with an arm, with an arm like that, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's like cheating. And so he was able
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  Speaker 2: to get another big completion at ogle Tree there. So
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  Speaker 2: I thought Richardson did a great job figure out what
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: went wrong first couple of quarters, turning it around and
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  Speaker 2: then giving his team and a chance to win the
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  Speaker 2: game in overtime. Now, Hooka Nakua.
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  Speaker 1: What by the way, who drafted him last week.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you're you're yeah, you joined the party.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: What we'll call you this, You're like, you're like Schrager
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: on the Cooper Cup bandwagon. Just a little bit late, Okay, okay,
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: it started earlier over here, just getting shrigs. So hookah
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: ten h ten targets, nine catches. I mean, he's just
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: he's got such a great rhythm right now with Matthew Stafford,
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: like so much so that he ran a deep in
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: on his first catch of the game. I don't even
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: think he should have been the red, but Stafford just
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: wanted that throw and wanted to hit him, and it
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: actually ball gets he tips it up to himself, ends
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  Speaker 2: up catching it. Almost all of his routes and all
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: of his targets are coming off deep ore in cuts, right,
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  Speaker 2: they're digs, they're you know, an over route. Now he
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: did ever, actually his nicest his best route of the
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  Speaker 2: day was it was a deep out. But he just
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: finds a way to get open in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the field, and Stafford trusts the heck out of him,
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  Speaker 2: and so does Sean McVay. I think that's that says
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  Speaker 2: something about rookie receiver man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Red, it's been it's been fun, just the way
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Pokin Nikua haz just jumped in and just continues to improve,
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: continues to be, like you said, the focal point of
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: the offense, which is pretty insane. Maybe the co focal
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: point because in this game, Kien Williams had a really
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: nice game. You look at the stat line, twenty five
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  Speaker 1: for a bucko, three on the ground, two touchdowns, caught
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  Speaker 1: three balls for twenty four yards. So I always like
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: to go back and see what the pre draft stuff
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  Speaker 1: was on these guys as they're starting to really pop
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  Speaker 1: and come together. So you go back to the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two draft. He was a little over five to nine,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety four pounds. He ran four sixty five,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: so he did not run well. I think that was
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a surpriser and knocked him down
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: the board a little bit. But when I look at
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: my notes, patient stop start quicks, he's a ninety one
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown versus North Carolina. If you question the speed
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: he can sink in squad and pass pro, he's excellent
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  Speaker 1: in the pass game slots. They'll use him in the
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: slot angle routes. Exceptional my comp form. I said that
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  Speaker 1: when I watched him, I thought he reminded me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of Aaron Jones. And you see a game
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  Speaker 1: like this and to me, I go, okay, yeah, I did,
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  Speaker 1: I see a little bit of that. So it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: when you go back and look at the pre draft
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  Speaker 1: stuff and then you know it's just getting opportunities and
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  Speaker 1: now you're seeing him really run with that literally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, and it makes it makes you feel,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like the Rams dow what they were doing
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  Speaker 2: and sending cam Akers on their way, and they knew
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  Speaker 2: they had a young player they wanted to get more reps.
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  Speaker 2: And he's done a nice job in the RB one role.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I'll go back and and you look
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  Speaker 2: at the last play of the game, which was Hookah's
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: first career touchdown ends up being the walk off winner. Man,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: it's a tough deal, right. They go there lined up
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  Speaker 2: in a bunch. Look, two guys end up going with
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: ben'skronic on the just flat on the out route and
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: you can see Kenny Moore he goes like this to
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  Speaker 2: kind of switch it as the play is developing. The
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  Speaker 2: other guy didn't get the signal and so it is
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  Speaker 2: too late at that point and pooka wide open and
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  Speaker 2: then it is a nice job to get into the
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  Speaker 2: end zone. But again, he is a heck of a player.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of heck of a player, I know the
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: numbers don't blow you away in terms of the efficiency.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: That's not the type of quarterback Anthony Richison needs to be.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be a seventy percent passer to
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: put their team position to win games. He's hit some
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: explosives which they were able to do, finished drives which
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: he was able to do, and then and sprinkle in
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: the run which he's done. So that's the formula. That's
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: the type of player you have. Hopefully grows into being
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: a more efficient guy. But he didn't need to be
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: for you to win games. And it's gonna be fun.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: I said in the beginning of the year when I
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: went out there, I said, I don't know how many
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: games this team's gonna win. It's gonna be a good watch.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to watch
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Anthony and Richardson continue to grow and develop. He's he's
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: somebody they can build around, and I don't think they
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: need to keep looking, I think they found their guy.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I mean, like I said,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: I thought he did a really nice job in the
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter when they're down their backs against the wall,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: and he just finds a way a bunch of different times.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: So that was that was definitely impressive.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: All let's get to the next one here the Eagles,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: and speaking overtimes, another overtime game. They beat the Commanders
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: third thirty four to thirty one. I want to start
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: on the Commander's side of things, and then we'll get
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: over to the Eagles here in a second. But I
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: had fun going back and watching Sam Howell in this ballgame.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Things that stood out to me the poise, the suddenness
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: to be able to escape when he had to against
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushes in the NFL. We'll
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: get to their pass rush here in a minute. Full
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: field reads, working all the way across the field, getting
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: through progressions. I thought the instincts were excellent, throwing guys open.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: No greater example than the touchdown to send the games
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: into overtime. Yeah yeah, it was a big time, big
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: time throwers. Threw them away from a defender. You say, okay,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: was kind of hard to tell is this kind of
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: a kind of elongated whip route or is it a
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: back shoulder throw. All I know is he sees defender
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: on one side and threw away from him and just
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: to allow your guy to have a chance. But he
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: made several throws like that, throwing guys away from traffic,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: away from trouble, climbing up in the pocket, extending plays,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: taking off when he needed to. I was impressed. I
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was really impressed with what I've seen from Sam Howell,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: especially in this ball game. And then on the other
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: side of things, you know that Eagles defense. Yeah, look,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: they gave up some plays. Washington gut you get thirty points,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty one points. You know, it's not something
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be happy with. But there's some wrinkle with
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the Eagles that they're adding to their mix. Their pass
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: rush shows so much attention with their front four there,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: so they they started bringing up the linebackers. A couple
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: of times they double mugged, so they get on the
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: center with two linebackers. Then they also had kind of
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: a delayed rush with a linebacker because everybody's get everything's
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: getting fanned out. It's creating some seams and their edge
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: rushers are just coming off the ball so hard and
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: it's going to force it's going to force a really
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: really dramatic climb in the pocket with these guys because
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you're getting an edge rush that's collapsing. Jalen Carter and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox in there are getting upfield. So it's a
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: real quick movement and what you're seeing is they're saying, Okay,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: it's like a trap. They're almost setting a trap for
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a mouse, and the linebackers just closing up there and finishing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: That's when they got all. I think they had three
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: linebacker sacks in this game.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, defenses roll and when they needed to be. And
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: so the other thing that really impressed me, you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: is watching AJ Brown go to work on a young
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: corner right in Emmanuel Forbes on those two touchdowns. Look,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Manuel Forbes is gonna have a bright future in this league.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I think we all kind of we've seen flashes of
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: that already this season. And obviously we know when he
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: gets his hands on the football, you know he can.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: That's an egg bowl that is old miss Mississippi State
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: right there, and AJ Brown showed him all right, still
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: some work to do here, kid, because he got him
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a couple of times, and those were two huge plays
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: in the game. You know, those touchdowns that Jalen hurts again.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: He is so good. He has gotten so much better
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: on that deep ball accuracy too. As he's he's continued
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to go on. So I thought that was going to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: look when the Eagles needed it, they go to a
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: guy like aj Brown. Not everybody can do that in
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I'll just add this about the Eagles.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: This is where I'm curious to see this collision course
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: they're on with the forty nine ers. We said it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: before the season, it feels that way now as well.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to get the style
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: points at the four Anders are going to get on
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: their way to that meeting. But this is a team
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that's just checking off win after win after win after win.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: It's not always pretty, it's close. They understand how to
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: win close games. But when we compare those two rosters
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and those two teams, I think that Philly is a
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: little deeper than San Francisco. I think if they show
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: up in all twenty two starters for both teams are healthy,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and that's what we see in the postseason. Okay, maybe
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you can make a case. Maybe I lean a little
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: towards San Francisco. It's close. It's a toss up, But
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I think when you see the attrition that's going to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: take place over the year, I think the Eagles are
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: better positioned to kind of manage their way through that
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: just because of the sheer depth they have.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was actually just a little bit
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: surprised though, at kind of how well, at least, you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: for the most part, the Washington offensive line held up.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't think that they were completely blown
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: out of the water in this game, and that this
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: is not the league's best offensive line. But you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: as we mentioned, you got the second level got active.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Think they've still got five sacks, and they got five sacks.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but I mean they hung in there and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: they look I mean, the quarterback gives him a chit,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the quarterback gives him a chance to That was me,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to me, the biggest takeaway from this game. If you're
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, you know, kind of play this out,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: what's the biggest long term impact of watching this game
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: on tape? It was like, holy crap, Sam Howe is
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: pretty good man. This is not This is not like, hey,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that's a good game, like this is a good player,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this is a quality starting NFL quarterback. They can build
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: around him.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Well, and just look at the week to week comparison
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: here of what did Sam Howl has faced right that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I think we're seeing that Bill's defense pretty really good,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: really right. You know, he had a clunk, Sam out
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: a clunker against some four picks, but the Bill's defense
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: was messing with two a toungo I low all day
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: long yesterday. Yeah, and and so that was you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to get to that game coming
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: up here in just a minute, but that was pretty
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: fun to Watchean McDermott's got that crew playing really well.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that here in just a little bit.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: All right, this next one before we go to the break,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess let's not take too long on
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: this game, because one of those one that's doesn't I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: don't think it deserves it. But I will say this,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: as we talk about this Bronco Bears game, everybody's saying it,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: how could you not? But man, if you're a Bears fan,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: can you just dream on this moment right now? Having
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: potentially the first and second pick in the draft. Holy crud.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what it's it's kind of weird
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: when you know, justin fields, you know, arguably has his
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: best day right throwing the football, and you're going to
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: be in position to take, you know, the best quarterback
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that maybe we've seen come out of the draft in
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a while. So I went into the fourth quarter to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: really kind of under I was trying to understand what
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the Bears were doing defensively, is did they change things
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: up coverage wise, ran a bunch of cover two? Did
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: they you know, did they have an issue dealing with
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: the run? Like it wasn't there was anything glaring. Bears
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: still got some pressure on Russell Wilson in that fourth
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: quarter when they were making that comeback, and I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I just kind of came to the conclusion. I was like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I think Russell Wilson just had his best quarter as
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the Denver Bronco. I mean, he looked like Russ of Old,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: kind of manipulating the pote, keeping his eyes downfield. I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: mean the throw he had to Courtland Sutton on the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: third and nine in the fourth quarter to make it
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: a twenty eight to twenty one ball game. It was
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: like a fifteen yard touchdown pass in the red zone.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I mean he threaded a needle laterally in the window
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and then also layering it between two levels of the defense.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I mean it was as good a throw as you'll
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: see on Sunday. And and look, he was a big
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: reason they were able to, you know, make that comeback. Obviously.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Another reason is, you know, Maddieberflus decided not to take,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: you know, a field goal which would have been about
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a thirty seven yarder, instead went for it when they
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: were tied tied up at whatever it was, twenty eight
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: there on a fourth and one, and you know, obviously
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: they lose by field goal.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: So not ideal, is that what you're getting on here.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get one last thing, one last thing here,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: because you know you mentioned it. We do like to see,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of follow some young guys that maybe
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: aren't always in the spotlight. Nick Benito, I think is
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: starting to come on a little bit for the Denver Broncos.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I mean he's got his almost as many pressures this
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: year as he did all of last year, and five
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: pressures in this game, two and a half sacks in
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: this game, and that strip sack obviously was really the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: turning point for the Broncos momentum wise, and as it
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: relates to the ultimate result.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, HTT because while you're doing that,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm looking up the get off numbers. So you go
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to next gen stats and have all the access to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: get in there at all the goodies. And if you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: just look at linebackers d liman a minimum of twenty
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: pass rush snaps. It's interesting because you see, you watch
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a guy with your naked eye and you're like, god,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Nick Benito looks like he can really get off the rock.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: So let's pull up the numbers. As I'm pulling us up,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I did not know where he was on this, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a surprise. Number one in the league
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: is Miles Garrett six, so got it. So that tells
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you first and foremost this there's something to this second,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: which is a surprise to some unless you know that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: this guy's up there every year because he's got unbelievable anticipation.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Derek Barnett is at six point sixty six with the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: hitcherss his teammate Josh Sweat again, they preach get off
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: point six y nine. Then you get Trey Hendrickson, you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: elite rusher point seven to one, Nick Bosa Enough said
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: point seven to one, Leonard Floyd at point seven to two,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and who's tied with Leonard Floyd, Nick Benito at point
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: seven two. So's he's up there with all of those
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: top guys. It's it's it's why I love that stat
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: so much. It to me, it's something that truly translates.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's one of the things with technology, we've been able
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: to get some new numbers and some new data, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I think the get off thing is legit. I think
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it's real. And when you when you're in the same
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: neighborhood is the Miles Garretts and the Nick Bosas and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the Hendrickson's of the world, that's where you want to be.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And think about what that does to a tackle. Right
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: when you know you're facing the guy with that elite
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: get off, you're already like building yourself an advantage before
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the snap because you know that you know that tackle
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: is getting is it's in his head, right, he's got
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to get it. Said yep, so that is that's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: good So I got another stat discovery that we'll get
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to when we get to the Steelers Texans game, by
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the way, that I think you'll appreciate.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: All right, well, we're gonna get to that. We're going
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to also get to the Bills Dolphins a couple more
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: games here. We'll get to those as well as Chiefs Jets,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Texan Steelers. We've got a lot of ground to cover here.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: We'll do that right after this. All right, right, Well,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this next one I think you could say was the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: biggest statement made from the weekend and the heavyweight matchup,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the Marquee matchup by the weekend, which was the Bills
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: hammering the Dolphins forty eight to twenty. A lot of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: different places you can go on this. You referenced earlier
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: about the defense of the Bills, and I'll leave you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that real estate, because there's spend a lot of time
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: looking at the offense on this one. Seven explosive passes
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and a variety of ways. Josh Allen because he's such
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a unique player with his athleticism and arm strength, he
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: does some things similar to what Mahomes does. In other words,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like if you see pressure looks a lot of times
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: as a quarterback, especially when with a weak arm like myself,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it is. I see pressure coming back. Football's gone. I've
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: got to get it out. The pressure's coming. These freakazoids
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: just get depth and say that's fine. Why would I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: don't want to try and hit a slant here. I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: gonna retreat like a son of a gun and buy
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: some time vertically that way, and then I'm gonna then
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you're vulnerable in the back end. I'm gonna make you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: pay with a big shot. And that's one of the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: things that Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, these guys can do.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: It's such an advantage man to have a huge arm
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like that to be able to pull that off. They
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: did a nice job on schedule. Throws bang eight bang
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: right on them. Yeah, rhythm through. Then you see Josh
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: scramble around, buy some time, hit the back on kind
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of just a scrambled drill play, and James Cook ends
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: up getting you a big explosive back shoulder balls. Excellent.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Then you have what I like to call those scheme
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: winners where you see so much of this. Now you're
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of teams run that orbit motion right. Yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: so they're throwing that glorified bubble and then they're having
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a lead blocker with the wide out. So now I've
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: seen this in other games I've watched through the early
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: portion of the season. You're seeing that orbit motion. Now
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you're getting the pump, you're getting the stock block and go,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and you're just putting that corner in such a bind.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: He's sitting there going, I've got to get off this
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: block and make this tackle on this bubble that's coming
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: my way, and all of a sudden, wait, wha, wait
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a second, you just slipped me, and now he's up
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the sideline and you're getting a big play. So you have,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the ability to adjust versus pressure on time,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: big time throws vanesse, you know, throws in terms of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: back shoulder accuracy, like that's that's a skilled throw. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: then you get this stuff. You know, GA design winners.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's like they can do infinite amount of things offensively.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: When Josh Allen's playing like.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: This, that missile to Gabe Davis on the first that
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: is so much fun to watch that and to watch
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that trajectory and I thing's on a flip and rope
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: right and just right right in there, right where it
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: had to be. I love getting stuff on Diggs going
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: in this game, you know, and then watching him kind
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of build his kind, you feed him and just he
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: he you know, he continues to get better right as
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the game goes on and more difficult to deal with.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: You saw that on the run after the catch on
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I think it was the second touchdown. I mean it
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: was just there was so much to light there. Now
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: here's the other thing I think we we maybe forgot
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and need to come back to appreciating how good of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a defensive coach of Sean McDermott's yeah, right, I mean
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: like that's that that's his forte right, and that's that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: essentially what gets him, you know, the Buffalo Bill's head
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: coaching job, and the last couple of years, you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: he's had Leslie Fraser calling the plays and that's still
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: been a good defense. Leslie did a good job there.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But man, I mean McDermott is rolling right now as
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a play caller. I mean he had to a tongue
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: of Biloa guessing all over the place in this game.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: And I think their best some of their their best
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: plays was trying to find that get the ball to
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: to Devon ah Chan and uh and obviously he had
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: a one hundred per yard day and an explosive day on
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the ground. But man, they they did a pretty good
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: job keeping those deep explosive plays in the past game
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: under wraps. And that's easier said than nothing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So I went back and watched the defense this morning.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I spun through it, and I just wanted to see, Okay,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch I'm gonna watch all the explosives that
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins were still able to generate. And then I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: want to watch how they got off the defensively, and
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, can I find something? Is there
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: something in here that correlates between their allowing big plays
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and they're they're limiting big plays? And I honestly read it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty interesting. It was pretty telling
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to me. It was It was quite simply linebacker depth
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like that was it like when they're linebackers off all
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that play action stuff you step for, the Dolphins are
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just trying to manipulate you to just just either hold
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: or just give me a little just give me one
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: or two steps, lean in pause, just to create that gap,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: that distance between the linebackers and the safeties. And that's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: where they operate. That's where Tua lives in that area. Yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: but when they were disciplined and just basically and look,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you can give up, who cares. Let If Han wants
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: to run for one hundred yards, that's fine. We're not
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: playing downhill. We are getting out of there. Our linebackers
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: are athletic. We're gonna get out and we're gonna We're
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: gonna rally and tackle. You're gonna have to check the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: ball down. You're gonna have to throw it underneath our
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: second level. We're not gonna let you work between our
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: second and third level. And the reason you do that
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: is you get your linebackers the crap out of there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: When they got depth, there was nowhere to go with
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the ball, and Toua was reluctant to try and really
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: check the ball all the way down because people talk
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: about the deep ball, talk about check. Tua lives in
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the middle. He is the intermediate king. That is where
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: he is most comfortable. And they just kill teams with
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: those throws.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: They turn those went into those sixty yard touchdowns. Right,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you catch it at twenty.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And then run, Yeah, you catch it on the dead run.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But to me, linebacker depth, that the discipline of that too,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: because your whole life and football you've been taught. You
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: see the ball in the belly of the back, you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: are taking a step down, You've got gaps, you've got responsibilities.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Screw that, man, get the heck out of there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And then I think again, he comes back to something
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I think we mentioned first or second week of the season,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: but the roster decision from Brandon Bean to let to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: let Tremaine Edmunds go get the big money deal elsewhere,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: feel really good about Matt Milano, and then know you
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: drafted Terrell Bernard who can really run. And man, that
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: is a really good off the ball linebacker duo right
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: there with Bernard and Matt Milano. But yeah, yeah, anything
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: else on that game, I think, uh, I think that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: pretty much covers it. But I think for the most part,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: we're seeing we're seeing good. Josh Allen like, yeah, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: obviously the one game you know wasn't great a couple
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, but man, twenty one to twenty five,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: even more touchdowns and incompletions in this game. So that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: winning football.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: By the way, I tell you, I'm I pick up
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the tuxedo today. Got it? Yeah, So we got all raded,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: We got it all dialed then feel good about it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you ended up
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: going bow tie. It was it was longtime boats ie.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I went with the boat tie more formal. My wife's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be wearing more of a formal dress at the wedding,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: so I said, Okay, the bow ties. It's more matching there.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that classic look. Man, you're a classic. Got
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the the tuxedo shirt, which I never really was aware of.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: This one has kind of like the circle. It's kind
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: of like the you know, it's kind of like the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: little circle kind of look at you. Yes, yeah, like you. Yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it's definitely a you you look. I felt like kind
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: of I kind of felt like I belonged playing it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: in Triman on the deck of the Titanic. I'm not
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: gonna lie U with that thing. Well, but we'll see.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that's not a metaphor for the getting out to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: put that out there. Yeah, he's a nice, nice guy,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a good, good future, all right. That was the side
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: note there. Excited to get the tucks though, get that today? Yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: excited cowboys Cowboys Patriots thirty eight to three. Yeah, just
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know how let's just say it's a beat down, man.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: It was. It was. And again the Dallas Cowboys defense
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: back back to doing what they do really well, turn
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the football over. This this was not an overly like
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: prolific day from the Dallas offense, which a lot of
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: times you think we see thirty eight points. So you
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: get two defensive touchdowns, you're pretty good. Shape fumble return
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: scoop and scored by Layton vander ash and then a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Dean Bland fifty four yard pick six. He had two
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: picks some day. So let's get into this here. A
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: little bit on mac Jones. He had a pretty good
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: first quarter. Okay, he had a pretty good first quarter,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: made some big throws in that in that and then
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: things really started to kind of spiral and slip a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: bit after the strip skack scoop and score by Layton
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Vanderesch there so he I mean, here's a two play
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: sequence where he starts to get kind off the rails
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a little bit. He's got a second and sixteen. He's
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: rolling all the way out to his right. He stops
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: and then looks all the way back to the left. Okay,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: so he's at the top of the numbers on the
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: right side. He then throws all the way back three
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: yards from the sideline on the left side, about three
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: yards beyond the line of scrimmage as well, So it's
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: not like a deep throw. I mean it is almost
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: completely lateral, sidelined to side, like really dangerous throw. Right. Well,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: it ends up working. So then what happens a few
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: plays later on the same drive rolls all the way
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: out this time it is just to the right hash
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: after dealing with some pressure, and again goes all the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: way back to the left side of the field. This
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: time Deron blands like ah not again picks that thing off,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: takes it to the house fifty four yards back. So
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you know, he sees some slippage and then things, you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: things start to start to kind of pile on. Little
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: bit flustered in the pocket I think, and you mentioned
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: with Josh Allen and Mahomes. You see guys with those
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: big arms, man, they will they'll retreat and they'll reset
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: right and then fire a strike. Whereas you know, Mac
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: felt like maybe a couple of times could have stepped
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: up in the pocket set his feet made a nice throw,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: whereas he's still retreating and then trying to throw it
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: off the back foot and that's trouble. And then he
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: gets picked off again by Deron Bland on just an
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: errant backfoot kind of throw. It's actually he's inside on
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: an out route on the second Bland interception. Makes a
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: bad choice there. But I mean Doron Bland, by the way,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: has more interceptions than anybody in the league since the
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: started last year. Fifth round pick out of Frozeno State.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Can I pull up my nugs on him because he
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: was Well, I'll give you some homework while you're doing
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it here, let me know what what pick he was.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: He was my one hundred and twenty first player. Was
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: he undrafted No. Round five, pick one sixty seven. Okay,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: so he was one hundred and twenty first player. This
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: is non combine so that was, you know, one of
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the deals there. He was a little over six foot,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: one hundred ninety seven pounds, ran for four to six.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I've had three picks, I said in off coverage. This
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: dude can really find and play the ball. He has
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a big time, big time pick six with showing FBI
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and range, so football intelligence and range versus boyd Boise State.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: He can carry crossers, he's got deep speed. He was
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like one of my true sleepers. You know, put him
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: as one hundred and twenty first guy without him, you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: going to the combine.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good you know, that's a pretty good
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: grade right there. You know, forg guy who doesn't end
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: up at the combine ends up there, which is kind
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: of weird.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Too, when you like it's a it's definitely you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be bat one thousand, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: when you're got Jeff Foster's job and you've got to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: collect these guys and limited the number of guys you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: get the combin But oh sure, man, this guy's height, weight,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: speed and production. Like that's a lot to sell there.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I mean it's like, you know, you get Treyvon Diggs
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Picks a couple of years ago, and now you got
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you know, he inserted dron Bland, who again is kind
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of an interception magnet. So I thought, I thought that
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: was pretty cool. I I don't know what to do
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: if you're the Patriots, you know, I think Mac Jones
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: is still your best option, right and Bill Belichick's been
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: answering those questions, But what's your best option to find
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: productivity as an offense? I think it's it's it feels
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: like it's more so on the ground that it is
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: through the air, you know, just with the talent. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I know they've had some issues along the offensive line too,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: but I think more Ramandre Stevenson the better moving forward
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: for the Patriots. Or is you know Zeke Elliott too?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I went through and was just trying
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to pull up some mac Jones numbers. You know, he's
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: tied with with Ritter with ten turnover worthy plays in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the league, And to me, I think that obviously he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: got to own some of that criticism. I didn't ever
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: think the ceiling with Mac was incredibly incredibly high, but
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I wonder. I wonder if he just goes to bed
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: at night and thinks, man, I was this close to
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: being brock perty. I was this close with my skill set,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the way I can play with Deebo, Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan call and plays, George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey. He's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: got to just sit there and watch those forty nine
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Ers games and be like, are you kidding me? They
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: almost put me in that Lamborghini and I gotta sit
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: here and I got to drive this old beat up
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: car here in New England where we've got nobody that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: can win, I got nobody that can separate. I mean,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the same thing we said
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: before the season started, and it's kind of like it's like,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you know, people, that's kind of hokey analogy, but it's true.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Like what the heck what jersey are you selling in
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: that team shop? Like what the heck are you excited about?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: If you're a Patriots fan? Like I get you know
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm coming off of a year. I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: coming off of a baseball season where I'm been a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: pottery fan. They didn't make the playoffs, and I you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, did I get to watch Wan Soto
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and Manny Machado and Frando? Like at least there's something
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: as a fan you can get excited about and go watch.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Like who are you excited about to go watch a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Patriot game? You're gonna go pay all that money? Who
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you want to see?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster five targets, one catch. Hunter Henry was
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: their most efficient receiver on the day. I think I
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: think Pop's Douglas to Mario. Doug Douglas is like the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: guy that's got the most juice on that team. Yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: and you know he had a he had a long
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: forty two yard catch early on, I think on their
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: first drive. But uh, you know Mac throws the two picks.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: You're gonna go, I know, and I know they beat
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the Jets, but you're gonna say you can go watch
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, Tyreek Hill and Miami. You can go watch
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs and Buffalo, or you can come watch Pop
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Douglas in know England.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, look, I'm not saying it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: a great situation, but I'm just trying to give you
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the best of the best of the bunch here. Whereas
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: like every single play I mean Stevens and I'm saying,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: run the ball more. I mean, Remandre averages two yards
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of carrying this game, Zeke two point seven. That's nothing.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Nothing to hang your hat on either, I guess no.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so good wins for the Cowboys. They bounce back,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So good on them. But I just again, I don't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: know where the Patriots. The Patriots to me feel like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the a little bit like the Raiders we talked about earlier.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this team's not good enough to win anything.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: So who are the building blocks that you can you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: having place to go forward with and and you got
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to have some major, major, major, major upgrades to the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: talent or you got no shot.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean it's kind of
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: been building towards this too, like for or falling towards
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: this fall. It's been like a simmer right towards this
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: thing for a couple of seasons. All right, what are
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: we go on next?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: They got the Sunday Night or Chiefs and Jets. Uh,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it was interesting, you know, going back and watching that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: this morning. Let's start on the Jets offensive side of
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the ball, because I think that got the most attention.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Got Rodney Harrison got a lot of attention for it
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: was a little a little harsh, a little much on
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that one, a little over the top. But I wanted
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to start with Zach Wilson. Is his best game, uh
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that he's probably played as a pro against maybe you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: one of the top three defenses in the NFL. At
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are really really good. So that was encouraging to see.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Now when I went back and watch it, I still
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: think he's late. I still think he missed some things
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: where you've got guys, you know, you've got like a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you've got a mesh route where everything is set up
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: to pick and get the back out and the flat
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and the pick works, and you've got him in the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: flat to walk in and he doesn't see it. So
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I still think there's times where he's not seeing everything. Great,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: but I thought he played more under control. I thought
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: they took the training wheels off, so to speak, let him,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you know, just be a little bit more of attack mode.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I think you can get into dangerous territory when you're
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: just don't screw up, don't script, don't scrip, don't scrip,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: don't screw up like you can't play the position like that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: You've got to have a little bit of a stinger.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And I thought you saw that kind of grow with
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: him as the game went along. Yeah, you know, the fumble.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd loved to have that one back. But
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: on the whole, I thought this was this was something
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: he can he can learn from and grow from. And
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm reading much into this,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: but just just Aaron Rodgers, even just being around, I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: think is a calming influence. And again it's that all
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that doubt. And you even saw it some after the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: game when they had the camera close up on him
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and he says, sorry, bro, you know I lost the game.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: For us or whatever.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: He says, yeah, which is a totally different attitude than
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: he had last year. I think he's way more endearing
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: to his teammates, you know, this version of Zach Wilson
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: than he was previously. Long story short, red. He's not
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like to say that he's fixed. No, he still has
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of he still has a lot of growth.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: But I looked it up. Man, he's twenty four years old.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Like this dude is still twenty four And the one
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: thing I would like to put to bed, he look,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that might be the best game he ever plays. He
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: may be. He could be out of the league in
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: two years. I don't know, we'll find out. But the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: whole narrative that he was just one throw at a
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: pro day and that's why he got drafted, I might
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just stop, just stop. Like the guy has elite traits
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: coming out like he made ridiculous in game throws. He's
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: very athletic. All that stuff's there. But if you were
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: going to say, you know, what's a tough position to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: go on. Well, you're gonna go someplace that's extremely high
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: pressure on you at that position, a ton of attention.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: You don't have a great offensive line. When you get there,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you're going to cycle through offenses and offensive coordinators and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: then your confidence is going to be shot. And oh,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: by the way, you play in a division with Bill
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Belichick McDermott and then a Dolphins team that's had as
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: much talent as anybody since he's come into the league.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Like it was crappy hand, the kid got dealt. All
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is that nothing's been determined. And this doesn't
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: mean he's going to be good because he played one
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: good game, but hey, look for one day, you'd be
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: excited that there are steps taken forward in a positive manner.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would actually kind of characterize it as I
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: feel like he had his best eight hours as a pro.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Like when you talk about putting your eight hours in,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: you know, just like putting it putting in a workday,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: and that means you know, that means your preparation going
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: into the game, you know your the whole deal, and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: then it also means how you react after the game. Right,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: because we've seen that go the other way, you know
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: with Zach. But I thought it was really telling to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: see Randall Cobb and Alan Lazard coming up come up
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to him after the turnover and be like, hey, we
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: got you. You know, like this can win. If you're
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: playing like this for four quarters, we can win. We
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: can back each other up here, like this is something
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: we can kind of feed off now and build off
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: moving forward. It felt like there was this, like it's
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: kind of a come together moment there for that offense,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and maybe maybe they hadn't d you know, truly in
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: one of those tough situations yet. So I thought that
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: was kind of cool to see. And then, you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Zach stand up after the game. You know, obviously you
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: got to can't take your eye off the ball on
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: a snap like that, right, got to make sure you
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: secure secure That's that's priority one. Secure the ball and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: then let's go play. And obviously just didn't there and
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: that ended up leading to it. But that final drive
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: was kind of insane for the Chiefs, the amount of
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: penalties that were called on that thing. And I think
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking about the sauce gardner,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: you know, Kai, yeah, maybe by letter of the law.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: It's a hole, you know, and you hate to see
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: it on a third and twenty right, and there's a
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: couple of different plays, a couple of I mean, Patrick
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Mahomes is sitting back there for seven seconds before he
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: ends up taking that open run with for the twenty
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: five yard scramble. You know, playing man coverage in that
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: situation is risky business, isn't it if you're if you're
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the Jets.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm going back and I'm pulling this up because, yeah,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the game in Mexico City in twenty nineteen, I'm down there,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it's Chargers Chiefs, it's late, and Mahomes ended up with
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: five rushes for fifty nine yards with a long of
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: twenty four. And I believe late in this game it
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: was again another like twenty Maybe maybe that was a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: twenty four yard run, but it was a third down,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: third and forever and uh and he ends up break
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: just being fast enough, and it's the last thing you're
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: thinking of, you take away everything else, and all of
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's like, oh crap, you mean to tell
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: me this dude can run too? And he does it
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and he he's usually pretty good. If you go back
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and look at every big game that he's played in,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: he has one or two of these runs that extend drives.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Every single time he has in an eight feel of
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: just knowing, oh, there's enough I can go at that,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and he goes and does it. It's it's incredible. It's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's one of the reasons why you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: when I've talked to it. I remember it was Gus
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Bradley or who it was. It was a defensive coordinator
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: was talking to about him. And obviously nobody says they
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: have the answers with Patrick Mahomes, but one of the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: keys was everybody says, oh, you've got to keep him
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: in the pocket. You got to keep him in the pocket.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Their thing was, we're okay, if he gets flushed out
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: right or if he gets flushed out left. The thing
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you can't do is open up lanes where he can
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: run shoulders squared towards the line of scrimmage in the
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: middle of the field, because not only then do you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: have to worry about him running, but now he can
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: access every blade of grass on the entire field like that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's made some incredible all the way out
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: to the sideline to the right, maybe throw it back
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to the hash, but I mean he can't get it
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to the other sideline from there. When you're in the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: middle of the field, you literally have to defend from
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: one sideline to the other sideline. But there were some
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: they just had some creases and he was able to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: get up in there and then and then you're in trouble.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's a tough spot to be in,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: right because you feel like if you're playing zone coverage
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: in some of those situations too, Travis Kelcey's got the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: knack for finding the open window right and and Mahomes
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: gives him such latitude to do that. I mean, it's
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: kind of a no win situation. I don't know what
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the right call is there. I just know that that
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: was about as as you know, free a runway on
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: a third and twenty right up the gut, right up
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the middle that you'll ever see. And and it obviously
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: it paid off for the Chiefs.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: But I take nothing away from them either, by the way.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, that wasn't there. That wasn't their best effort,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: that wasn't their best performance. Pat didn't have a great game.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: About the checko though.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that gave him something, you know, it's a
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: nice balance for him. And that's I go back to
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you know, talking about the Chiefs, I go
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: back to what we said about the Eagles. Just stack them,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: just just throw wins up there. Doesn't have to be
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: pretty then't that have to be your best. But they
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: just know how to win in those winning moments. They
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: definitely pulled that off a last one. Rhtt. This was
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: just I feel like we've gone close games and man,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: butt kickings. This would be a butt kicking and this
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: was the Textans thirty to six over the Steelers.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And man, this was a lot of This was really
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: cool to see. And you know, you had JJ Watt
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: in the building going up in the Ring of honor.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: TJ Watt obviously there too, and I honestly thought TJ
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Watt might give you know, CJ. Stroud and the text
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: in some trouble, you know, the offensive lines beat up
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: at the tackle spot. But CJ is a cool customer.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: It's getting to the point right now where even if
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I don't select this game as one of our eight
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to talk about, I got to want to watch it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I just want It's just it's too much fun, especially
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: when you can watch the trajectory of some of his
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: throws from the end zone copies. It's like, yeah, it's
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a thing of beauty. It's like watching the NFL films
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: like Spiral right, the close up spiral that they got
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: in slow motion. Man, he's good. Look. I think credit
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to Bobby Slowick too, because they've got some real comfortability.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: He has built in some real comfortability with with things
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: that CJ. Stroud can do really well. Like they've run
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: a goal line RPO. That's a thing of beauty. I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: it's just it is a simple read. He sees nobody
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: in the in the middle of the field. Here, pulls
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the ball out of Damian Pierce's stomach. Bang, trust Nico
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Collins to get inside on a slant route and it's
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: like bang, bang, you know, no shot for the Steelers
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: right there, and it's a touchdown. He's got another RPO
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: where he sees the pressure kind of developing before it
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: even happens. He's going to have unblocked pressure and then
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: he's like, bamn, I'm going right to Nico Collins. I mean,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the ball comes out right. It's just it's a lot
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: of fun to see and so I'm watching these throws, right,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, these guys me he is CJ's
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: on the money, which you know, isn't strange. What's what's
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: a superpower? It's accurately right, It's it's all places we
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: talk about all the time. And and I'm like, man,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: these guys are are catching the ball and they are running.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times, you know, we'll
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: use you know, a box score to look for a
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: trend that maybe you want to dig deeper into. Right,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: you know, you see a team goes you know, two
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: or twelve on third downs? All right, what was what
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: was going on? So we'll go we'll get those third downs? Well,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: this was the opposite. It was kind of like what
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you were talking about earlier in the show. And I'm like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder what they're acquas this week for
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: the Texans. Yeah, well sure enough. They led the league
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: in yack yardage this week with one hundred and seventy
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: eight yards. And and is that is that? Because you
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: know Nicocollins and uh, you know John Metchi and Brevin
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Jordan to Tank Dell. I mean, like they're good players, right,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: who would the ability to generate yards after the catch.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: But a big piece of that is CJ. Stroud putting
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: that thing on the money. None more beautiful than the
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: third and seven corner round from the slot by Nico
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: with under four minutes to go. I mean it just
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: it doesn't get much better and c J. Stroud is
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: just dotting them up right now.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: All right, let me give you I'll piggyback that stat
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: with the with another one third down if we say
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: third downs of money down right, yep. CJ. Stroud on
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: third down this year is forty for fifty six with
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: four touchdowns no picks. His adjusted completion percentage, meaning what
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: his completion percentage should be, is best in the league
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: eighty six point three percent on third third down down
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: eighty six point three.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: DJ. Do you remember my takeaway from the Texans game
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: in Week one? This dude was fourteen to sixteen on
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: third down. Yeah, like, and they didn't convert every one
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: of them, but like, that's incredible.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: That's where that is absolutely outstanding for a guy in
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: his first four starts to be to be sitting there
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: and again not turning the football over. Four touchdowns, no picks.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: He's been sacked three times, but They've had four drop
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: passes on there. His completion percentage I believe is like
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: seventy three percent, but adjusted completion percentage would put him
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: at eighty six percent, which is incredibly stupid. So he
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: is off to a great start and they are looking
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: like they not only have found their guy, but they've
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: got a chance to And we were thinking maybe this
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence's division for the.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: No, they're vibing right now.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: No, they're ready to go.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: He got the defense.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, so fun times, fun times in Houston.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Any any other games you want to touch on before
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: we jump out of here.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Let's see what do we uh? What do we miss?
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore Cleveland obviously, you know the Shawn Watson.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I think that's really unfortunate for the Browns. You know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: he plays his best game as a Brown last week
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: and then you know, unable to go.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I argue that that was the best thing. Can I
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: argue that was the best thing for the Browns because
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you did not want I mean.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: This is you don't want DTR to go off.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: DTR comes in there and goes off, and you're like, well, wait,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: we're with Deshaun Watson. Committed with financially, he's not going anywhere,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now you got every game, Like,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know the other guy I think is better
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: than he is. Well, that was put. That was put
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the rest quickly.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The other thing I would say, in terms
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: of takeaways, the NFC South might be the Tampa Bay
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Buccaneers division. And I'm going to tell you right now,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I predicted it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: No, well, I don't think that division is decided by
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: any stretch. The only thing I would sell to atlant
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Atlanta does not look good. That would be the other
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: side of it. But uh, I mean it's yeah, it's
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be. Uh, it's theirs to win.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: The Saints, I don't know what their deal is and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: that's just, uh, that's a tough one to figure out.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: That's why that's just thirty three yards for Alvin Kamara.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: That's the one of the one of the weirdest stat lines.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: The Panthers, they are zero and four many. They don't
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: have anybody for Bryce Young. I feel bad for him.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I know there's probably some times he held the ball
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit long, but I don't know what they're
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: supposed to do with what he's working with. The Vikings
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: get a much needed win, Vikings sitting at one and three.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: But I still feel like very much alive, very much.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Everything's still in front of them. I don't think that
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: division strung.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: You'd like to think so, right, so they'll be okay,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: this could really you know, we're talking about Bucky not
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: being here. He's going to go meet the day he
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: was in London to see the Jags. We'll get the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: win over the Falcons, kind of hang on if they're
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: building an early lead. This could turn out to be
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: a kind of pivotal point for the Jags, a two
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: week stretch where they kind of get away from the
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: expectation state side, where they were struggling a little bit,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: kind of come together on the road in London and
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: play two back to back game they get if they
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: beat the Bills. This I'm not saying they're going to
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I don't and I won't pick them too, but this
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: this you'll look back on this as being like a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: real pivotal stretch for Jackson.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: No doubt. And we touched on the Niners a little
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: bit earlier. I mean, look, McCaffrey goes off. I mean
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: he was on un stoppable perty doesn't throw in completions.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: It's again, they're on cruise They're on cruise control. Yeah,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: one completion, they're on cruise control. And look that being said,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: seventeen to ten and a half or sorry, twenty one
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: to ten at half. At least the Cardinals are they fight,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: they get us there, Yeah, they end up. It's gosh,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: what was it was twenty one to sixteen in the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: third quarter of this game and they give up fourteen
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and the fourth. So they're competing. They're competing, they're playing hard.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: They don't have the guys they need, but it'll be
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: interesing to see what their timeline is with with Kyler.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, real quick before we go, just because it's
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: it's setting up that way at least as it stands
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: through four weeks, Bears with picks one in two. I know,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: it's unbelievad Are you are you? Are you a quarterback?
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Are you quarterbacking Arvin Harrison? Or you are quarterback and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: offensive tackle?
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: No, I am quarterback in trade and get the farm
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: for the second quarterback. Hopefully you don't have to go
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: too far. Hopefully there's somebody that's in the top five.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: That's that's Jones and who that second quarterback is still
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: get He's going to get one of her or then
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: you go to the tackle. Yeah, you get one of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: those guys or a pass rusher. But to me, it's
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: never been more apparent. And Bryce Young is a great
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: example of this. If you're going to draft a young
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: quarterback the early part of his career, every resource goes
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to offense. Apologize to your defensive coordinator. We will try
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and help you out down the line, but right now
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: we are going to just collect as many weapons and
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman as we can and we'll fix the defense
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: down the road.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Bears, gosh there it's the the best and
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the worst of times if you're a Bears fan, because
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you can you can have some hope and optimism. Man,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: first and second pick, Holy cred, we could really get
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: this in this draft. Yeah, oh yeah, it'd be a
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. Assuming all these guys don't just keep
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the nil money and stay in college. Who knows? Who knows?
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: All right, well, if Safe travels to Buck, he'll be
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: back with us. I think maybe tomorrow he'll be back
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: on the show, so we'll have Bucky back with us
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and see what he learned over in London as he
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: gets ready to head back to London once again. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: appreciate you, buddy, right well extent, we'll be back. I'll
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. All right, there you go, that's it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Move the sticks. We'll see you next time right here,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: m m m