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Episode 439 - A Flashback Tech-Fest with Andy, Shawn & Justin! · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Rick Darringer, Rock and Roll hoo Chiku, and you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to tech Talk Radio. Welcome to another episode of
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  Speaker 1: tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm and I'm Justin Lemmey.
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  Speaker 1: We have the show that talks about computers, technology and
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  Speaker 1: the Internet. How you guys doing doing great? Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: joining us. Yeah, it's good. Everybody good.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's you know, we're getting to the end of the semester,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm just counting the days.
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  Speaker 1: I loving it because in last week's show we heard
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  Speaker 1: how Sean was playing around with the wise bulbs. You're
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  Speaker 1: still having a good time with that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I actually so.
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  Speaker 2: They came off of pre orders only, and I bought
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  Speaker 2: four more to fill out the rest of my basement
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  Speaker 2: with four more. I had bought four more to fill
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  Speaker 2: out the rest of my cam lights in the basement.
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  Speaker 1: So how many you have now? Seventeen twelve? Now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't too far off. Can you control like a
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  Speaker 1: set of four or one? How do you control them
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  Speaker 1: with the app?
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  Speaker 3: In the app?
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  Speaker 2: In the app you can put them into groups, so
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  Speaker 2: like I have the ones that are directly behind me
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  Speaker 2: over my office, over my computer called my computer desk, right,
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  Speaker 2: and I can control just those those four. But then
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  Speaker 2: the rest I have on what I call the theater,
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  Speaker 2: which I can then control just those ones. I've written
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  Speaker 2: to wise already because I'm a little frustrated at some
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  Speaker 2: of the UI with the app. Based on how new
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  Speaker 2: the bulbs are and stuff. There are scenes you can build,
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  Speaker 2: So I can build a scene and I can like
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  Speaker 2: have this bullbi dimmed to fifty percent, but this bab
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  Speaker 2: seventy five different colors, and I can set up a mood. Essentially,
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  Speaker 2: you can't you can't make a rule within the app
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  Speaker 2: that says push this button to load this scene. I
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  Speaker 2: can load a color or a white balance, but I
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  Speaker 2: can't load a scene. So I have to go into
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  Speaker 2: the group, pick the group, pick the scene, because I
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  Speaker 2: want to be able to make two moods or one
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  Speaker 2: mood for both both scene groups down here. So I
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  Speaker 2: can hit the button and say go to this mood
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  Speaker 2: for the basement, and the basement will be in that mood.
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  Speaker 2: But right now I have to go to each group
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  Speaker 2: and do it individually.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that would be a little confusing, I would think.
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  Speaker 3: Now I can do a white out.
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  Speaker 2: So I made one called whiteout, which sets it to
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  Speaker 2: the standard white balance that my basement is like, and
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  Speaker 2: I can hit white out.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't because I can.
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  Speaker 2: I can pick and make rules based on the white colors,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't make a rule based on the scene.
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  Speaker 2: They look great and they're bright. They are very functional,
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  Speaker 2: and I've had no issues with them. They're super easy
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  Speaker 2: to set up. I can make scenes, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I can make these scenes. I can build whatever colors
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  Speaker 2: I want and then load, save them, and load them.
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  Speaker 2: But I just can't use rules to make them happen.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can't say if I had a home assistant
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  Speaker 2: or Alexa, I could say, hey, Alexa, load Sean's gaming scene.
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  Speaker 3: It can't do that because there's no rule involved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was about to say, why don't you get
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  Speaker 1: like home assistant or something? Yeah, that would do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Hector sent us a note because he heard
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  Speaker 1: the show last week and he actually wanted to know
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  Speaker 1: why isn't Wise available in retail locations? Are they because
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  Speaker 1: they hasn't been able to find them?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there are some select home depots have WISE products.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really? Now, oh that's kind of cool all right
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  Speaker 1: the place, but they wouldn't think about getting smart tech
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  Speaker 1: would be home depot. Actually, yeah, they've been you know what,
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  Speaker 1: they've been pretty advanced. They've been pretty forward thinking in
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, especially with the home thermostats. But I have
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  Speaker 1: not been able to see I have not seen Wise
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  Speaker 1: technology anywhere in retail. And that's I think what That's
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  Speaker 1: what Hector was thinking about that you only had to
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  Speaker 1: go online to be able to get it. But if
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  Speaker 1: you can get it in retail, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: You can.
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  Speaker 2: I saw them at my local home depot here in
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  Speaker 2: northern Indiana, and on their website, I can't. I can
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  Speaker 2: get the Version three camera, the outdoor camera, the Version two,
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  Speaker 2: the pan, the pan and tilt one, the WISE plugs,
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  Speaker 2: the WISE light bulbs, not the color ones yet because
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  Speaker 2: they're not super available still at the WISE lock, the
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  Speaker 2: outdoor plug, the SPRINKLERK controller. I mean, it's all right
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  Speaker 2: there on their website.
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  Speaker 1: What about price? What about pricing though, because I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: are they the same deal? Because what you get when
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  Speaker 1: you go online direct through why is it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: The Version three outdoor camera is thirty eight bucks on
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  Speaker 2: home Depot. It's about eight or nine bucks more.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's well, I mean home Depot, yeah, exactly, Home
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  Speaker 1: Deepo's got to make some money off it. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then but the nice thing about that way is if
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  Speaker 1: you do have an issue with it, you could take
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  Speaker 1: it back to home Depot. You don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about shipping and sending it back in that way. So
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be that's gonna be real nice. You know. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: the verg you know you guys ever go to the Verge.
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  Speaker 1: They did a really good article because a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the last year, let's face it, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people have been ordered online. And you order online
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't know what you're gonna get. Like
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  Speaker 1: you might go, Okay, I'm gonna go ahead, take a chance.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen this ad on Instagram. I'm gonna go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and buy this. And then you order and what you
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  Speaker 1: get sometimes either take it's way too long, sometimes it's
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  Speaker 1: not the right color, not the right product, or sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it never arrives. So the big question is what do
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  Speaker 1: you do when this happens. You're not always protected depending
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  Speaker 1: on who you've bought through, you know, PayPal. When you
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  Speaker 1: buy through PayPal, you can get a guarantee, somewhat of
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  Speaker 1: a guarantee, and again, how you pay for it when
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  Speaker 1: you buy something else, you know, you never want to
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  Speaker 1: use a debit card. Never, never, because you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: protected that way. But Verge had a really good article
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  Speaker 1: about that which kind of played in well with a
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  Speaker 1: product that I there's been two products. So I bought
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  Speaker 1: a product. It was about two and a half months ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'm online, I'm on. I want to say it was Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it and it talked about this green screen
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  Speaker 1: that you can put on the back of your chair
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  Speaker 1: and it has the bel coast straps, it's around green screen.
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  Speaker 1: It's fifty six inches and I thought, wow, look at that.
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  Speaker 1: It's being advertised. You know, you look and you're thinking,
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  Speaker 1: that looks like a cool product. And I go. I
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  Speaker 1: clicked through and it's was thirty five dollars for this
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  Speaker 1: green screen. I know the price has been a little
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  Speaker 1: higher for those. Okay, So I ordered two. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get two. I get one for the studio and one
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  Speaker 1: for my office. Right, and would you know, I finally
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  Speaker 1: got it. Now I will say it is well done construction,
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  Speaker 1: it's built well, it's got a great green fabric. It
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  Speaker 1: is huge. It fits to the back of the chair.
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  Speaker 1: But I only got one. I ordered two, So basically
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  Speaker 1: I paid sixty nine dollars for one. Well, the company
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  Speaker 1: is in China, of course, I didn't know that until
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  Speaker 1: I placed that order a company. See did you get
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  Speaker 1: it from Amazon? I didn't know. I went through a
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  Speaker 1: link and I ordered it directly and paid through PayPal. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: see that's that's a then of the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: never buy anything except reputable sellers unless I buy it
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  Speaker 1: from Amazon. And then when I do buy it from Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: it says shipped and fulfilled by Amazon. Yeah, otherwise you
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  Speaker 1: could be paying for something and then it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: six weeks later. Here it is a month and a
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  Speaker 1: half in where I had not received any information as
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  Speaker 1: far as this product. I emailed them and I never
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  Speaker 1: heard back from them. Suddenly one day I get this one,
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  Speaker 1: this one green screen in about now. It's well constructed.
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  Speaker 1: But then, so you figure I paid sixty nine bucks
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  Speaker 1: for it, I'm probably not going to get a second one.
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  Speaker 1: I know that nobody's going to follow through. I know
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. You use your credit
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  Speaker 1: card to dispute it maybe I could. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but as you could. I went online to BH Photo,
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  Speaker 1: which if you've never been a BH photo video, some
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  Speaker 1: great stuff on. There's a company named Bescor. They make
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  Speaker 1: them fifty dollars, so they maybe they've fulfilled it from
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  Speaker 1: them and you know, made nineteen bucks out. I don't know, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, seriously, if you pay with a credit card,
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  Speaker 1: contact a credit card company, file a dispute, that's the
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  Speaker 1: last you're going to hear of it, because what from there,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to go after the retailer, and if the
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  Speaker 1: retailer doesn't respond, well, then the credit card company just
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  Speaker 1: takes care of it, and no matter what, no matter what,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get your sixty nine dollars back or
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  Speaker 1: thirty nine dollars or whatever you claim, you'll get that
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  Speaker 1: back immediately. But if the retailer comes back and tells
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  Speaker 1: the credit card company, hey, no, we sent this blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah, then the credit card company will take back
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  Speaker 1: the refund that they gave you, and then you'll go
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  Speaker 1: into like arbitration. But normally, if it's something like that,
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  Speaker 1: those companies never respond and it doesn't matter because they
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  Speaker 1: still get their money. Who gets messed over is the
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  Speaker 1: credit card company. Yeah, because they have insurance on it,
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  Speaker 1: but they still pay you back yet they've already paid
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  Speaker 1: the merchant. The merchant gets their money, you don't get
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  Speaker 1: your product. The credit card company gets gets left holding
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  Speaker 1: the bag. Did you see this one on Facebook and
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  Speaker 1: Instagram a couple of weeks ago? It was ninety nine
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  Speaker 1: dollars from a company called by Best. I think that
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  Speaker 1: was it. I think it was by Best, and it
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  Speaker 1: was for a fifteen inch HP laptop brand new in
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  Speaker 1: the box. They had an overstock of him, so they
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  Speaker 1: were selling him for ninety nine dollars. You said it
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  Speaker 1: was called by Best. I think it was called by Best.
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  Speaker 1: I saw, I saw that it was very similar from
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  Speaker 1: from Zonoma. I didn't hear about that one. Emma, what
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  Speaker 1: is that? Oh it took me a second I thinking
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  Speaker 1: about it. He's like, what's that mean? Anyway? So it
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  Speaker 1: was for I mean, this is a full on laptop,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it's a it's a double laptops. You
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  Speaker 1: fuller over use it as a tablat ninety right, said
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  Speaker 1: the edit overstock. Ah, I went ahead and pulled the trigger.
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  Speaker 1: I do not know I did. I did I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to see if this really if this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be some kind of a scam or some kind of
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  Speaker 1: a deal, and how this is going to work. I
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  Speaker 1: screencapped everything, took photos just just so this kind of
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  Speaker 1: an experiment on my part to throw away ninety nine bucks,
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  Speaker 1: but to see, really is this going to be fulfilled?
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  Speaker 1: And we'll see now what happens. But it doesn't come
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  Speaker 1: in if you ordered it with your credit card, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't come in or it doesn't come in
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  Speaker 1: as expected. And it was another one a dispute. It
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  Speaker 1: was another one that directed through PayPal, so again so
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  Speaker 1: but still you used your credit card, right, So then
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  Speaker 1: in that case credit the credit card will go through
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  Speaker 1: PayPal as the paintent processor. PayPal will then go after
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  Speaker 1: you know, the merchant. But the worst case scenario what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen is that in the future, anybody that
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  Speaker 1: tries to buy with that same credit card that you
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  Speaker 1: used with this same company, the purchase will get declined immediately,
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  Speaker 1: right because they're not willing to take any more chances
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  Speaker 1: as a credit card company. Well yeah, it makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: but still still was I was like, Okay, this has
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  Speaker 1: got to be some kind of a scam. I got
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  Speaker 1: to find out where this leads. So again a little
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporting there. Did you get anything back in terms
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  Speaker 1: of like shipping or no, it said we'll ship in
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  Speaker 1: twenty days, So that'll the twentieth day will be about
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  Speaker 1: right around the time you forget about it. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what they're hoping for right the time. We've done
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  Speaker 1: some we've done some laboratory studies. It's about the twenty
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  Speaker 1: day mark when you forget what you purchased, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you purchase at like after ten pm right and then
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  Speaker 1: or been drinking yeah or yeah, well or both, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, when you buy a technology
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  Speaker 1: like this, how do you know what you're getting inside
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  Speaker 1: that technology? Are you? Oh, you can accept this, but
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be tracking every single thing that you're chasing, visiting,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. P much what all technology is nowadays? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: think about why things are so cheap, you know, smart TVs.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say they take smart TVs for instance, why do
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  Speaker 1: you think you can buy a four K seventy five
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  Speaker 1: inch TV for less than two thousand dollars. It's because
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  Speaker 1: they track everything you do with that television and sell
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  Speaker 1: it to advertisers. This is a proven fact. This is
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  Speaker 1: how they make their money on the back end is
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  Speaker 1: by tracking everything you do. Now, some people listening will go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: come on, that's ridiculous. How try how they get improve it?
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  Speaker 1: How are they going to be able to do it
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  Speaker 1: with every single person and to know what they're watching.
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  Speaker 1: I can prove it because when I got my smart TV,
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  Speaker 1: I also have and I've mentioned this on other podcasts,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, go ahead and queue up the laughter. But
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  Speaker 1: I have a pie hole right, Yes, it's a Raspberry
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  Speaker 1: Pie computer that runs a DNS forwarder. So everything that's
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  Speaker 1: on my home network I forward to the raspberry Pie first,
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  Speaker 1: and then if it's on its blacklist like things like
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  Speaker 1: ad tracking, cookies, malware viruses, whatever, it will deny my
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  Speaker 1: request to go to that website. It's actually shoving it
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  Speaker 1: into like a room. It's a black hole. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a black hole. Boo. I send it down to a
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  Speaker 1: black hole and then you never hear you never hear
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  Speaker 1: from it again. But I've been monitoring my pie hole
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  Speaker 1: for a while and I see all the different DNS
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  Speaker 1: requests that come through, and most of them are from
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  Speaker 1: my computer. But then the moment. The day that I
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  Speaker 1: hooked up my TV and I got it on my network,
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  Speaker 1: the DNS requests skyrocketed tenfold, Wow, ten times the amount
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  Speaker 1: of DNS requests. And when I looked into it, it
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  Speaker 1: was all of the Samsung partners, and it wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: just Samsung dot Com, you know whatever. They bought thousands
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  Speaker 1: of domains that are just made up of random letters
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  Speaker 1: and numbers, and they forward all of your statistics everything
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  Speaker 1: you do, from how long did you you spend on
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  Speaker 1: the home screen, which app did you choose, how long
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  Speaker 1: did you spend on that app? How many times did
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  Speaker 1: you skip the commercials? What were your volume settings? What
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  Speaker 1: channels did you watch on local television? Everything you do,
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  Speaker 1: they forward it onto these providers. Then they correlate this data. Now,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not it's personally identifiable, that remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 1: But they're tracking what you do, whether it be a
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  Speaker 1: herd or just a single user, they are tracking everything
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  Speaker 1: you do. So that's just one example. We've seen situations
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  Speaker 1: where people have said that, you know, with the home
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  Speaker 1: speakers in their homes, they will suddenly talk about needing
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  Speaker 1: to buy, you know, a new sofa, a new share
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  Speaker 1: and suddenly they're getting ants sped on their computers through
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  Speaker 1: Facebook or on the social media for those type of devices.
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  Speaker 1: This was This happened to me this last weekend, just Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: We were walking through neighborhood and my neighbor pulls up
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  Speaker 1: in a brand new Mercedes AMGS Class. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking top of the line, probably a good one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars car. Right, this thing is sweet.
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  Speaker 1: And I said to him, and I pulled my phone
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  Speaker 1: out and I got my camera open, and I said, dude,
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  Speaker 1: that is a nice Mercedes, and I took a picture
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  Speaker 1: of it. Not one hour later, I get one of
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  Speaker 1: those Google surveys, because I have the Google Survey program
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: where you answer simple questions. You get like ten cents
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  Speaker 1: for every question you answer. I get an ad that says,
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  Speaker 1: are you interested in Mercedes Benz? What? Really? I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for that ten cents. But no, that's some
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  Speaker 1: scary thing is what tech is nowadays. All Right, So
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  Speaker 1: you know we were talking about PayPal. You guys had
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  Speaker 1: mentioned to me that Elon Musk that's how he made
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  Speaker 1: his money. He was the guy behind PayPal pretty much
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  Speaker 1: started that right yea out of PayPal and what else
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  Speaker 1: did he found? Well, all sorts of stuff. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: did a lot, but yeah, PayPal was where he initially
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  Speaker 1: made his billions. I remember millions. When we were in
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  Speaker 1: Palm Springs doing this show, his name started to you
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  Speaker 1: would start to hear his name and it would always
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  Speaker 1: be associated with something in the you know, Linux world,
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  Speaker 1: you know, something along that line. It was something big
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  Speaker 1: and grandiose that he was doing. And now you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's made a statement this past week that had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people going, wait, wait, wait, what do you
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  Speaker 1: say it? Because you know they've been talking about space travel,
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  Speaker 1: they've been you know, they've we've seen this incredible success
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  Speaker 1: with the launch. Did you guys see John Kraus's photos
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  Speaker 1: this past Yes, well, amazing photos of the Crew two launch.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a buddy that lives in Orlando, thirty miles
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  Speaker 1: from the launch site. He got up at five am
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: or or whatever to watch it and he got to
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: see the rockets come down. He took pictures from his
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: back patio of the rockets launching and then coming back
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  Speaker 1: down and thoy were just spectacular. Well, John did some
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  Speaker 1: great photos on that. But either way, you know, it
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: was an Elon Musk thing with Crew two going up
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: there in the whole bit. And he made a statement
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: though about space travel because everybody's thinking, Oh, I want
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: to go to the Moon, They're already talking about that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I want to go into orbit. I want to go
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to Mars. But his comments but Mars have kind of
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: changed the way people are thinking. Yeah, according, I'm looking
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: at this right now. According to Popular Mechanics dot com,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: they quoted him, yeah, he says, he says here, going
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to Mars reads a lot like that ad for Shackleton
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: going to the Antarctic. You know, it's dangerous, it's uncomfortable,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it's a long journey. You might not come back alive,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: but it's a glorious adventure and it will be an
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: amazing experience. You probably won't have any food or good food.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: If an arduous and dangerous journey where you might not
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: come back alive, but it's a glorious adventure sounds appealing.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Mars is that place. That's the ad. That's the ad
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: for Mars. Honestly, a bunch of people will probably die
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in the beginning. It's tough sledding over there. We're not
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: gonna make everyone go it's volunteers only. That's his exact quote.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Does that make you guys still want to go? Uh?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. I'll let Elon go first. Yeah, Sean,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: what do you think.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I would probably still go?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Really even with a premise of death. Well, you mean,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: we all got to die at some point, but still
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: why accelerate it though if we don't have to? But
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: but then there's that also, that chance that you might
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: be the first person to ever walk on Mars on Mars, Yeah, exactly,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, they'll name a crater after you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I was in life, a crater named Maby.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I'll become a.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you're becoming your own crater. And if
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you look out your left window, you'll see the Shonda
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Weird Crater. Well that's glorious. I wanted to show you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: something that I picked up this past week. Now. Buddy
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of mine, Buzz, who works in radio here in Tucson,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: had told me about this, and I thought, you gotta
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: be kidnaped. It's a transistor radio, right, it's the ritechis
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: V one point fifteen. It has an antenna on it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It's an AMFM radio U and so you think, okay, Well,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: with this day and age of smart speakers where we
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: can just pull up, tune in and we can listen
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to our favorite station, our local station, or even a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: station out of town. You know, Sean's into getting into
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: shortwave radio, which is cool. This also has shortwave capabilities
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: on it for listening. It comes with the headphone jacket,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: comes to the microphone jack. So with that microphone jack
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and an SD it's got an SD slot on there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: A micro SD you can record audio if you wanted to,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Like just you suddenly have something you want to you
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: want to mention and record, you can do that with this.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Can you record what's coming over the airwaves? Yes, So
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: if you have a favorite radio station or a favorite
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: show or a song, you suddenly, oh that's the song
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I want you hit record it'll work. Record it onto
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the SD card, which is super cool, and that way
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to it. You could
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: take that as that micro SD card out, put it
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: into a reader and copy it to your PC. Now,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it only records up to one hundred and twenty eight,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: so you don't get three twenty out of it. But
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you know which is CD quality. But the quality is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: still good. And also what I love about this and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'll show you guys, is it has a rechargeable battery,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: so wow, you don't have to go out and buy
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know, triple A batteries. Well can you use triple
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as though? Like can you use real batteries in it?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Like if you're out in like the mountains or whatever. No,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it's rechargeable. It's one one thousand mili am battery. Okay,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: so you're going to get some good life with that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And the quality of the speaker is not too bad.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But that's what I love about it is you have
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the ability to record your favorite radio stations, your favorite
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: radio shows, your songs. I remember doing that as a kid,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you know, hit and play record. One of my favorite
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: songs would play in the radio and I would get
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: angry because the DJ would TALKO, yep, something's there. And
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: now you're a DJ DJ and I do that. But
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: we're tack us now. When it first came out, it
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: was seventeen bucks for this. It's got a nice carrying handle,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the whole bit. But the popularity of this has gone
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: up and now they're about twenty five bucks on Amazon
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and not too bad. Yeah, not too bad at all.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And again the sound quality is pretty good. The control's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a little difficult to figure out, but you will on
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: how to delete a file and you know how to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: change stations. But the quality is really good. So I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: like it cool, Yeah for that price.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: So Andy, you brought that up.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I've actually been studying to get my Amazon radio license.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Now. Is that a difficult process?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Really, it's not as difficult as you would think. You
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: can go to the A the Amateur Radio Relay.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: League al dot org and you can get some study
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: materials and stuff. It's a lot of basic electronics and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: some radio theory and some safety and.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: FCC guidelines stuff. But so far it's not that difficult.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: But what you can do with the base level entry,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: it's called the technicians level the your amateur radio license
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: is it gives you access to some of the u
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: HF and vhf frequencies that you can transmit and receive on.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Now anybody can listen.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: That's That's a big thing they like to tell you,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: is like there's nothing stopping you from buying a radio
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: and listen. Right, So, the amateur radios of something that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to do. I have a boofang u
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: V five R transceiver that they call them handy talkies.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It's and I just had some fun with it. I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: followed a couple of tutorials online. There's some really great
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: uh HAM radio tutorials online YouTube channels that are really
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: really great.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: What do you broadcast? If you're using shortwave short wave?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: There's difference, right, shortwave you have you have short the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: short wave band, you have the VHF bands, you have
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the UHF bands, and those are the main three that
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: are amateur radio. I'm not super familiar with all of
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the terminology in that yet.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I'm getting there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but with the radio that I have, I'll be
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: able to do the VHF and the UHF bands.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Now is it expensive to get into the radio that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I have?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Is thirty bucks on Amazon.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Oh that's not bad. That's not bad at all.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Now, granted they are the bottom of the barrel radios.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Now Bowfay's not a non name company. They're very popular.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But they're Chinese based.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: The restrictions and the sensitivities of the radio and the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: frequencies in China are much different than they are here
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in the US. It's not as expensive as you think
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to get into it, especially.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: If you just want if you see, if you just
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: want to listen.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if our listener don't want to get involved in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: something like that, they want probably want to check out
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: their local radio amateur radio club. I'm sure they have
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: one here in Green Valley as well.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So there are a couple of websites I can
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: tell you.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: There's one called Radio Repeater Book, which will give you
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: all the repeaters in your area, which is how you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: can listen to things further away. VHF and UHF don't
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: go the signals don't go very far. Yeah, they go
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of miles and that's it. But they have
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: repeaters that will pick up your frequency rebroadcast it on
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a offset that you listen to, so you're transmitting on
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: one frequency but listening on another, and then it can
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: get carried on further, further and further by other repeaters.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I have been listening here at home and have picked
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: up people in South Texas, Arizona.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Oh wow. Nice.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Based on based on the number of repeaters they're hitting,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: there are challenges and there are contests based on how
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: far away you can get context from the number of
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: contexts you get in a short period of time that
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: type of stuff.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: When you're listening to this stuff, are you scanning like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: multiple frequencies or are you dialed into like one particular
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: frequency or what?
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you go to repeater book.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: What about WebSDR dot org you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Can go to that too. Radio Reference is the other
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: one I was looking for. Okay, so Radio Reference will
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: give me. It gives me all of the registered licensed
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: radio stations in my areas. I went through and there
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: is a program called Chirp. It's a radio programming software.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I paid for a license on Radio Reference. I paid
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: five ninety nine for a monthly license in I poured
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: all that into this CHIRP programmed into my radio.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds pretty cool. We'll put us on the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: links up available on our blog and our website. We
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: do have to take a quick break. Brand new product
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: coming out for your for your tablet, if you got
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: yourself a Samsung tablet. I know Justin's gonna be into
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: this one. We'll be back with more of tech talk Radio.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, and I'm Justin. Let
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: me find us on the web at tech talk radio
• 25:22
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• 25:26
  Speaker 1: tech talk Radio.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to tech talk Radio.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm Seon Weird, I'm Andy Taylor, and I'm Justin Lemme.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: All right, so I know we know that Justin got
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: himself a brand new Samsung tablet a prize our listeners
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: at which one you purchase the Galaxy Tabt top of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the line. How you feeling with it? You only had
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it for a couple of weeks out right, I love it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It's great. I love it, absolutely love it. Now we
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: were talking, we were talking about the fact you wanted
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to get a keyboard for it. Samsung's announced this past
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: week the Samsung Smart Keyboard Trio five hundred. Uh. It's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a smart keyboard for use with your smart phones or
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: your tablets. Some people have said, wait a minute, you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: can use a keyboard with your smartphones. Why would you
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: do that? If you think about it, with the size
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: that our smartphones are now, it's actually would be better
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: if you had a little keyboard sitting in front of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: your smartphone. Sure. I do like the Logitech K four eighty.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And if you're looking for a keyboard that is a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: multi device Bluetooth wireless keyboard which gives you the ability
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to pair up to three different devices and then I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: mean pretty much you could switch between them. That's that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: makes it pretty nice. And the K four eighty isn't
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that expensive. Generally around thirty five to forty bucks, you're
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: going to be able to find it. But I really
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: do like the K four eighty and the other. The
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: other really nice thing about this keyboard too, the K
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: four eighty is that it has a groove at the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: top of it, so if you've got you know, whether
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it's a Galaxy device or an iPhone, you just put
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it right there in the groove, so it's right in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: front of you. So you're typing and typing with a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like a regular keyboard, but the Bluetooth is banking that connection.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: But I like that little groove on top of it too.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But this this one from Samsung does pretty much the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: same thing. It connects via Bluetooth and you can connect
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: up to three devices at the same time, and with
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: an easy click, you'll be able to switch back and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: forth between those devices. Now, some laptops have Bluetooth capability,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I know my Lenovo does, so you can actually connect
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a keyboard instead of using the on board keyboard. So
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you're more mobile with it, so you can put your
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: keyboard back a little, your your laptop back a little,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and you can put this on your your lap and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: type as you want to. You're looking for a keyboard,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and this will work with any device as Bluetooth capable,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: whether you know, whichever tablet you have, doesn't have to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: be a Samsung tablet. Just a kind of a nice
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: way to bring tech to your devices. Yeah, absolutely, are
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you you're thinking about gaining one, aren't you? Ah, well,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you know I was. But the tablet keyboard cover is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty bucks at best, and it's
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: normally one hundred and ninety nine. And I honestly really
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: don't use the tablet for the keyboard functions, Like I've
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: got a laptop. If I need a laptop, I'll use
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a laptop. I just want the tablet to be a tablet.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm kind of kind of shining away from it now,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of I'm surprised because do you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: remember when I bought the Leap how fifteen inch external monitor,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and I mean, I love it. I use it every day.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I plug it plugs via Hdmi into my laptop and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I've got a second monitor that I can use. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: paid one hundred and fifty nine dollars for it, you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I got it through Amazon, the company's leapout, but it
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: came with you know that same cover you're talking about.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: It's magnetic. It helds it back and then it kind
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of fits into a nice little groove.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So you've got to stay I got that free with it,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and they're charging one hundred Samsum's charging that much for it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: It was uh seventy nine. I think this is crazy. Yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that's it isy And honestly, I really don't like this
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: particular case all that much because I do find if
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I'm if I'm using like one hand to try to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: open up the whole you know, tablet, a lot of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: times the tablet will slip off the magnetic back, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: then I'm like scrambling to you know, put my drink
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: down or whatever I have to so I don't drop
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: my thousand dollars tablet on the floor. I just pictured
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Dean Martin with his cocktail. Yeah that's pretty much it. Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: pretty much it. But yeah, so I mean it's a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's a decent case, but I kind of would rather
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: have like the wrap around case. Yeah, I'll give you that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: The wrap around cases are much nicer and they're a
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: little easier to uh to kind of use with the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: with the tablet, that would be, uh, that would be
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a lot nicer. Yeah, but you're pretty you're you're happy
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: with that. I am happy with the tablet absolutely. I
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: think it's one of the greatest ones. I mean, honestly,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: my opinion rivals the iPad Pro. Well, you know, speaking
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: of that, Sean, you had some info on some some
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: stuff from Apple that was announced.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: So last a week, about a week ago, Apple announced
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: a couple of new products. They announced the new iMac,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the new iPad Pro, and the new iPad keyboard.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, don't forget, don't forget the air tracker.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Also, they in tune the air trackers, which surprisingly were
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: relatively inexpensive.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty dollars. Thirty dollars when you think about it,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that's where you're going to pay for the tile device.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And I know it's actually called the air tag, so
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I want to at least give it the right name.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: But it's supposed to be from what I understand, the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: size of a junior Mint. I mean, that's how small
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not very big.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: They're not very big, and you can get a set
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of four for relatively inexpensive. I will probably get some
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: just to play around with them.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: What about the battery life though, because I mean you
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: think about it, the smaller they get, the smaller the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: battery is, which means the less life they have before
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you have to replace the battery. If you remember the tiles,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: when those first came out, they didn't have a replaceable battery,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: so you had about a year, so you would buy
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a tile for a year and then that is it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I remember one year we got the kids, we got
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: them all tile devices and they're cool, you know, put
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: them on your your keychain ring and everything. But the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: battery after a year was dead. That was it. Was it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I remember that the following year we didn't get them
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: more tiles, and they were kind of disappointed. It's like, hey,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: we thought we were going to replace our tile. Now
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they do have replaceable batteries and the price went up
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, but either way, it's still I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna be able to replace the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: battery in this or if it's going to be chargeable.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe throwing them throwing them onto a magnetic charger like
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you you know, like you have with your your iPhones. Okay,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that might be nice.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's they're twenty nine bucks. You can buy them.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: You can buy them already apparently.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: But Sean, do you have any info on the specs
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on the air tags? Like, do they are they rechargeable?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: How does how does the battery work on this device?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: It runs off a CR twenty two coin cell battery.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Oh cool? Oh so you will be able to change
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: them out? Yeah, twenty thirty two. Yeah, okay, those like
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: here basically here in eight batteries. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, nope, no, no.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: There are CPU bios batteries.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, larger than okay, so that's larger than a size
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of a junior man. Oh okay, well I'm not sure
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: if there's such a thing, but sure, you know, yeah,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. Now, these are going to use the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the Imax are using the M one process or not?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: They're not going Intel in this one right?
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Correct?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: This is this is there is no Intel option for
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: these the new Imax and they are offering two different
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: versions from just from their Apple dot com website. They're
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: offering two different versions of them one chip, one with
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: seven cores and one with eight cores. So whatever the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: differences between those two, I don't know. I haven't done
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that much research into the M one chips. However, I
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: have had friends tell me that the difference between the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Intel processors and the M one scissors. The user experience
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: is significantly increased in terms of functionality and optimization for
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the mac os infrastructure and architect architecture.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: That's with the M one, so a better the ones.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine who had bought a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: iMac with the latest I seven generation and then they
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: announced the M ones for cheaper. He went back to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Apple said I want to trade this in for the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: cheaper one. They traded him, gave him the money back,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: He got the cheaper one of the M one, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: he is way happier with the M one than he
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was with the Intel, just based on his experience with
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: load times and user experience and stuff like that. So
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I've heard great things. I don't know more than outside
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of just some friends that have told me some stuff,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: but so far it's been so good.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Now, when when it comes to the actual iPads that
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they've announced, I know that they're gonna have a twelve
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: what a twelve and a half inch iPad or twelve
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: twelve point one inch I pad. The colors are what
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: everybody's been really happy about because you're gonna be able
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to get a variance of colors. Rather than that traditional
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: black or steel, gray or white, You're gonna be able
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to go with different ones.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So the the Imax, you can get it looks like
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: seven different colors on the Imax.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get blue, green, pink, silver, yellow, orange, purple.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: And that is so worth the extra thousand dollars. He
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: is not an Apple fanboy, that's for sure. I mean, seriously,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: this is what they do. They release things in various colors,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and they charge a premium for it. Like seriously, now,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: what about I don't.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Think it's gonna cost you any different to get. Well,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So for twelve ninety nine, you can get four colors, right, blue, green, pink,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: or silver.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Twelve ninety nine, yep, twelve, okay.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Then they have a fourteen option and a sixteen ninety
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: nine option.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, options, you get three more color options.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. See, you pay a premium for the other color
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: options for twelve ninety nine I can build a computer.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It's a PC that would blow away that iMac. Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: well yeah, pretty much. You're not wrong, but that's not wrong,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: but you just I'm just saying a lot of a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: lot of Apple Mac users will stable Apple Apple Mac forever.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I mean honestly, my first computer was an Apple two
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: E with a Z eighty card and I loved it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It was great. But once I started, you know, playing
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: around with the Windows and an actual PC, we had
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a Cyrix processor in it, you know, kind of stuck
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: The thing that really kind of irked me when I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: when they announced the new Imax no USB A ports.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: None see they and they say they're doing it and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: what for recycling efforts or there's no reason. They kind
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: of did the same thing when they put out the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: new iPhones where you didn't get a charger for it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: You wanted a charger, you could use your old one
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: or you would replace it, and you know, it just
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it kind of irked a lot of people. So what
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: are they doing with this?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: There are two USB C USB three ports right, so
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: they're USBC rated for USB three speeds and then two
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Thunderbolt USB C rated for USB four speeds.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: That's all you can.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: You have to buy a USB bridge or USB hub,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and now on my MacBook, I don't have those.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I have to use the hub Twitter and I can't
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: run more than two hard drives off of one one hub.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: So it's frustrating.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: When I want to run more than two drives, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: have to buy more than one USB adapter.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: It's it's silly, but.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Well, let's to be fair though, the PC world has
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: done this as well. I mean I worked on a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Dell OptiPlex over the week and they're on the power supply.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: There's only two power connectors. That's it. So you can
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: run a hard drive, you can run a DVD drive,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's it, or two hard drives and one
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of them died. To get the replacement power suppot, you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: got to go through Dell because it's proprietary and the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: way connects to the board, which is you know, the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Dell system. It just just the way that even even
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: PC manufacturers have done it. If you go back to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: IBM when they were doing their PCs, all of them
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: did some kind of proprietary We got to take another
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: quick break. Actually, this has been a big subject for
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Justin this past week wanting to make an upgrade and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: trying to decide, now which way does he go? Sean,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you might be able to help out on this side.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I know I talked with him about it too, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I was just as lost. So we'll take a break,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: come back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I'm Seandward, and I'm Justin. Let me find us on Facebook,
• 38:02
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• 38:05
  Speaker 1: back and now fact to tech talk Radio. Recently, well
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: not recently. You guys know, I have a secret Lab chair, ye,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and it's a great, great gaming chair. They're a little
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: bit more expensive. They're bub about about three three and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: three fifty or so. But I treat my chair with
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: respect and I've noticed that I do. Actually yeah, but
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I noticed that one of the left arm rest, on
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the inside of the arm rest, the material is starting
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to split. The rubber around it is starting to split
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: like it's been compressed, maybe just you know, putting weight
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: on it or whatever, but it's it's splitting. So I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: contacted how long have you had that? About a year?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Actually a little over a year, because it was is
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: basically April of twenty twenty when I bought it, right, so, yeah,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: so it's been a year. Yeah. So I contacted Secret
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Labs and I said, hey, this is my sitch. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: took a picture of it. I sent it to him.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: They came back and said, look, I'm sorry, this is
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: actually not under warranty because it's normal wear and tear. However, however,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: we want to we want to make sure you're taken
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: care of. So send me your address and I'll send
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you a new uh basically a new a new uh armrest.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Oh cool. Yeah, so that's that's awesome. I mean, even
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: though it's not covered under their standard warranty, sometimes they
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: will actually help you out. Sorry, that's a big shout
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: out to Secret Labs. You know, they've done a great job.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: It's a great chair. If you guys are looking for
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a new chair, I highly recommend checking out Secret Labs.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Really really good products. That's good customer service and you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: know that's absolutely sells honest.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: And I believe Amanda bought her husband the World of
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Warcraft one.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh wow. They make they do make. They
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: do make a lot of like custom ones too. You
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: can put your you can even pay a lot extra
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and have your own logo put into the back of
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the chair, leather stitched. Oh that wouldn't that be great
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: tech talk radio chairs? That would if you're willing to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: spend five six hundred dollars, I would love that. Right now,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: one of the chairs that I've got, I'm beginning to
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: feel it. Either that or I'm getting heavier, but I'm
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: beginning to feel it a little more in the seat.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And what people have told me about Secret Labs is
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that they're just all out comfortable. And just to hear
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that customer service, that's, uh, that's really cool to hear.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I like that. This past week, we you and I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: had a discussion on the phone justin You're yeah, you're
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: in that that you want to upgrade. You've decided where
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you will go. But now it's a matter of okay,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: that big question AMD versus Intel. Well, yeah, I mean
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: here's the situation. I just upgraded my computer probably eight
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: months ago, right, but I went from an I seven
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: sixty seven hundred to an I seven eighty seven hundred
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: or eighty seven seventy to be exact, not realizing that
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: even then at that time last year, the eighty seven
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: hundred was way out of date. You know, they're they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: already releasing the Intel eleven thousand series. So I'm three
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: generations behind already, And so I'm thinking, gosh, you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and I got that extra bitcoin money. I'm thinking, well,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I want to upgrade. But you're right, like, what do
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I do? Like, I've heard a lot recently about AMD,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and the AMD processors are just just right on the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: heels of Intel, if not better in certain categories, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: their price point is cheaper than Intel. With Intel, you're
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you're kind of paying for the name. So I started thinking, like,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: do I really want to go and upgrade? First? Up,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I really need to upgrade. The whole situation is I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: can't play flight simulator with VR. Like everybody talks about
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: how great VR is, and but they're all running you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the ten thousand or eleven thousand series of Intels, or
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the Risin nine or the Risin sevens, and I'm sitting
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: here running an eighty seven hundred or eighty seven to seventy.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I just can't keep up. So part that problem, though,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: my friend, is you're also you have to look at
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the other bottlenecks that are within your system, and everybody
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: runs into a bottleneck, whether it's the the data transfer system,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the cooling system, you know it. Well, the speed of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: your memory all adds up. Well, I've got DDR four
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: thirty two hundred thirty two thousand, so my memories is
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: definitely good on that. I got sixteen gigs of it,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: So that's you know, suffice. I've got a water cooling
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: system on the CPU, brand new dual dual fan on
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the CPU, so I don't think cooling is a problem.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think rams a problem. Power I don't believe
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is an issue either because I never have it shut off,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: so my power supply is okay. I think it's being
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: bottlenecked by the motherboard and the processor. I know it's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: not the graphics card because I see people that are
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: running a eleven thousand series with a ten series rtr
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: gt X. I have an RTX twenty eighty TI that's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a good WAG card, which is a great card. And
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: these guys are telling me they're running a ten seventy
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and making this no problem. So why am I not
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: able to do it? But again my question goes, do
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I go a MD or do I go Intel Man?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: That's you know, that's like telling somebody, Well, I don't
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: know which car to get, you know, I get this accurate,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: or do I get I go for Chevy. Yeah, you know,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it's and it's really kind of unfair because Intel has
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: been around for a long time. I love Intel. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: for a time, I started out with a m D processors,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but I think they they tend to make a MD
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: seem like a second rate, like a second rate, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: it's not. I think that's a marketing tactic by Intel
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: because the thing, let's be fair, let's be fair too,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: or by users that swear and live and die by Intel,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And let's face it, it's marketing. Where marketing works. If
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you you see ads featuring Intel, you see uh, you
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: know alienware features the Intel processor. You know they they're
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: doing a marketing plan with that. You rarely see a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: m D advertising systems with the a m D processor.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Is that what it's gonna take or do they just
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: say no, we'll target those that are using a MD
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and that's gonna work. Well, sure, it's the exact same
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: thing with Ford and Chevy. You know, you got your
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Ford guys, you got your Chevy guys, and they're gonna
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go to bat and they're gonna fight to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the death over which one's better. But AMD has been
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: making some amazing progress over the last couple of years
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and Intel has kind of been staggering a little bit.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: They're not coming out with the greatest of things, so
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: this gives AMD a chance to catch up. And from
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: all I can tell, the riz In nine processor is
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: better than the eleven thousand series I nines. Well, we
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: heard a lot about it for gaming, for gaming, for
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: gaming because the more clock cycles the whole bit, the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: more cores, the more clock cycles everything. And then to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: compare Nvidia against AMD Radion, right the new Radion cards
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: are really looking good too, and they're a little bit
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: easier to find than the the the RTX thirty eighties,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: thirty seventies, thirty nineties, whatever you have, because right now
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: everybody's buying his graphics cards for for for crypto mining bitcoin. Also,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: there's a big semiconductor shortage, so the prices are going
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: up for everything, motherboards, CPUs, RAM because there's a semiconductor storage. Sean,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: what do you.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Run depends I need to really, I am way way
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: way behind on upgrading.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Mind okay, never mind me Andy, So no, I'm like joking,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like shying. I built I built MYSM. I built
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: my system in twenty fifteen, ok so, and I haven't
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: done any updates since then.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: So mine is kind of a Franken Frankenstein build.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: That.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: So when when I bought Justin's ten to seventy from
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: him a year and a half ago, yeah, I had.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I had to upgrade my case because my case was
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: too small, didn't fit, so I graded the case. Well,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: then I started looking at I had a couple other
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: machines that I had salvage. One of them had a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: better motherboard at it, so I moved with the motherboard
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: in it had an I seven in it. Right now
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I'm running don't laugh at me. I'm running an Intel
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Core I seven thirty seven.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Seventy really a thirty so wow, okay, but you're able
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to do what you need to do, right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I have no issues with it. I'm able to play
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: flight simulator at medium weddings.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Do you know all my games?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Do you know what socket that that that thirty that
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: three thousand stores run fifty one eleven eleven, fifty five
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: fifty five. Okay, if I do end up upgrading, I'll
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: sell you my processor that I just bought six months ago.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: If you want it, and hey, why not, I'll throw
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: them motherboard deal. You're gonna you're gonna say money there.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to shout out
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: about there's a great program that I run called.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Cpu I d oh love that.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is their CPU Z version and I
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: have the hardware version too.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: But this if you're if.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: You are looking to find a processor that works for
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: your motherboard or RAM that works downloaded from the CPUID website.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: It'll give you all the information you need to go
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: online and get what you need to work with your machine.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I have. I have another one that I like to mention.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: It's goes right along with CPU ID. It's called IDA
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: sixty four AI DA sixty four. I bought the extreme license,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: so I think it was a one time fee of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: fifty nine dollars. But it takes CPUID, which is free,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: and CPID, don't get me wrong, gives you a lot
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of good information. IDA sixty four takes that to an extreme,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and that's why they call it IDA sixty four Extreme.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's like fifty nine dollars for the license,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: but it gives you every detail about your PC. All right,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: so big question for you justin though, depending on it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: saves Hey you go with Intel, okay, manufacture motherboard which
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: ones will use? ASRock ASRock as right now? So now
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: ASRock is, from what I understand, a part of asues right, Yeah,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: it's an it's kind of like a subsidiary. Yeah. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: guess the best way probably to explain it is ASRock
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: itself is a standalone company, right, and they kind of
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: spun off into a big group. They're part of a
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: big group which a SUS is also a part of.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: So I guess that's how you could kind of put
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: it all together. Now ASRock is as ro O c K,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and then a SEUs is as US. Now, while a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: SEUs makes laptops and believe desktops two, they also for
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: years have been making motherboards, great motherboards that I've used
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: in builds that I've done over the years. Why why
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: not stick with a SEUs? I think ASRock is more
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: designed for gamers. I think a SEUs was kind of
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: just trying to be kind of the overall overarching brand,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: whereas ASRock was kind of like their gaming division. I
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: believe I could be wrong, right, but I think that
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: ASRock was, Yeah, Republic of Gamers, that's their their gaming division. Okay,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: because I'm thinking I've got a one seventy A, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I know I was thinking about upgrading, and when it
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: came to motherboards, I was looking at the four nine,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: which is uh yeah, and that has you know, it
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: has the info for me to be able to run
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the M two's and you know, and do it that way.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: But then again I was thinking, okay, ROG has a
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: board out that's supposed to be also very good, and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: would going to a gamer board for some of you
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: does graphics and desktop and video, would that be a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: better way to go. Well, I mean, I guess if
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: you're trying to utilize for your whatever you're doing with
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: video and graphics, I guess if you're using the video
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: card for your graphics processing or audio processing, sure, yeah,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: getting getting a gamer board because I believe it has
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: something to do with the front side bus, right that
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: increases the speeds along that and that's where the graphics
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: card sits. So yeah, I mean, if you're using that
• 49:41
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  Speaker 1: Rock and of course as Who's. There are other manufacturers
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  Speaker 1: of mother boards out there that all have some great benefits,
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  Speaker 1: so just want to give them a mention. Uh, you've
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  Speaker 1: got MSI which is a pretty good sturdy board. You
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  Speaker 1: got Intel boards as well, So again, just a couple
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  Speaker 1: this is Barbo. You're listening to tech talk Radio and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna learn a lot. So, you know, with spring
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  Speaker 1: cleaning being here, the question has come up, how do
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  Speaker 1: you clean your PC? Oh? Easy, I mean they don't
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  Speaker 1: fit too well in the dishwasher. I was just gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: take a big tub of water and just dunk it
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  Speaker 1: in there. You don't want to do you guys?
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  Speaker 3: You guys clean?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, see, you know you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: take it out back and hose it down. But especially
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: if you have a pressure washer, yeah, if you if
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  Speaker 1: you don't do anything that we're recommending right there, Tech
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  Speaker 1: talk Radio is not responsible for what you do to
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  Speaker 1: your PC. But listen, if you have a dog, you
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: have you have cats, you have a beard, you live
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  Speaker 1: with somebody that was formerly in zz top, you want
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to think about cleaning your PC. And you know it's
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: it's not that difficult to do, but it is something
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: that you should do now, whether you take it into
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you know, whether you carry it in somewhere where they're
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: going to it out for you, or you want to
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: try doing it yourself. There are some things you don't
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: want to do. Somebody once told me that they hit
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: their their PC with the wet drive AC and they
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: would go ahead and use the vacuum to get all
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the dust out of the computer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, not good.
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  Speaker 1: The thing you electricity, uh huh, number one static. But
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: also you got jumpers that are fit over little connectors
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: that are inside on your motherboard, and you can actually
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: use the vacuum to pull those off and stop your
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: computer from working, and then trying to track them down
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: as to what they do with that. I mean, they're small,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: little plastic connectors. That is one reason to certainly not
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: use a wet drive VAC inside your computer. The other
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: thing is some people say, well, I just shoot it
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: with the compressed air, which you know, some people say
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it's good. The problem is if you hit a fan
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  Speaker 1: that spins with compressed air and you're causing it to spin,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: you can actually do some damage to the barings in
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  Speaker 1: that fan. The system's not on when you're doing that,
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  Speaker 1: So always recommended to do it when the computer's off.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, and hold the fan to stop it from spinning.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna do that, but again, be careful of how
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  Speaker 1: you're spraying that. Sometimes you get a little actual liquid,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that comes out of that. That's one of
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  Speaker 1: the things. I don't know any other tips. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen some really scary stuff inside PCs,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: especially a PC of a smoker that way really bad.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the biggest tip i'd say is,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you know, get one of the get one of those
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  Speaker 1: fine brush like you could even use like an artist
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  Speaker 1: paint brush or whatever, or just like a keyboard brush.
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  Speaker 1: Use it to kind of knock loose some of that
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: hard to reach stuff. But I always just use a
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: can of air. But again, like you said, you do
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: not want to turn that can of air upside down
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: because then you get the liquid it comes out, and
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it can freeze those components and then it can break off.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: So try to keep the can of air straight up.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, use a brush to kind of get it out,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. And if you're wiping down your keyboard,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: make sure your computer's either off or the keyboards not connected. Yes,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I mean you you literally can you can put a
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: keyboard in the dishwasher. No, you can, you can, you can,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: but don't do it. You Yeah, I would highly recommend
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you don't do it, but you can do it. You
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: just gotta make sure it is bone dry before you
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: go to plug that thing back in. I spilled water.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Put it on the oven at three twenty for twenty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes. Don't do that, please, all right? Actually, if
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  Speaker 1: you go to PC Gamer's website pcgamer dot com, forward
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  Speaker 1: slash spring Dash, clean dash your dash PC, you'll also
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  Speaker 1: get some tips there that might might be helpful for you.
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  Speaker 1: That wraps up this week's sech Talk Radio. Please don't
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  Speaker 1: bake your keyboard. Don't listen anything I say. That's it
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