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237. Clearing Energetic Clutter & the Chakras of Your Home with K. Margaret Solorio · The Wholeness Network

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Speaker 1: This is the Wholeness Network, a space for people who
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are done performing wellness and ready to actually feel it.
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I'm Michelle Wingel, and every episode, we're going deep into healing, identity,
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the spiritual stuff nobody talks about, and what it really
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means to come home to yourself. So let's go. I
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love a clean, fresh house, and my guest today can
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help you do that. on an energetic level. When I
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first met Kay Margaret online and we were chatting about
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the things that maybe we could do to support her
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and for her to contribute to the Wholeness Library, I
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just loved the idea of her work. She's trained as
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an angel Reiki master and she was shown a way
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to use that gift in homes to declutter the energetic
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noise that builds up in a home. And you will
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be really amazed at the experiences she shares, the hints
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and tips that she receives to help you feel supported
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and joyful in your home. Make sure to check out
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her website and links in the show notes. And like
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I say, please leave us a nice review and watch
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the video version in the Wholeness Library.
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Speaker 2: My family on my father's side are winemakers in Germany.
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And so I took time off during college to go
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live and work in Germany. And I really wanted to
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work on my language skills because growing up in the U.S.,
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my parents are both German teachers, so it was there,
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but we got to a point where we would come
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home and speak English and hear German and not fluent.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So living there really helped with that. And then I
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loved working in the wine business at my aunt and
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uncle's winery. It's just the seasonality of it, that connection
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to the respect of the land, the connection to the
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different timings of things, just the flow again. I really
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appreciated that. And then I had been studying, I went
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back to college and I had been studying biotechnology. I
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was always fascinated with, science. That was always my favorite
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because it's like, I think that's why we study energy.
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It gives you some insight into life and to how
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the world works and why this and why that. And
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the more you learn about science, the more you know
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you don't know. So there was all, I was always
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a questioner. I remember in seventh grade, one of my
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teachers gave me a most inquisitive award at the end
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of the year, just to make a point that I
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asked too many questions. But it's how I learn. So
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even in college, when I asked questions in science class,
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I would eventually get to the end if they couldn't
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answer the question or it felt like it wasn't complete.
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So I think spiritually, energetically, there were always some questions
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for me. And I loved winemaking, so I ended up
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coming out to California, which is where I still live,
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to continue that. I've worked in all facets of the industry.
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And it, for me, was a marriage of that science
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and art. because it too is dependent on an agricultural
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product where you're at the mercy of the earth and
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the weather that year. But on the other hand, the
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moment that comes together is so unique that it's this
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combination of the grower and the product of grapes, the
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quality of grapes, but then also that year's winemaking and
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the winemaker's influence. And then finally... what your mood is
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and your meal is when you open that bottle of wine.
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So that all the things that came into play to
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make that moment, that moment is so special. And I
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really appreciated that. So that idea of enjoying the moment
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and having this respect for spirit and how unique and
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beautiful everything can be without our curation of it all,
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like this co-creation, this idea of co-creation, I think that
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opened up. And then for me during COVID, is when
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the spirituality really, my spiritual awakening happened. Oh, wow. Everything
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kind of, I mean, I think for a lot of us,
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everything changed during COVID. Yeah. But it all kind of
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hit and all the things that I've been doing and
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running around and trying to get done and keep everybody happy,
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it couldn't do in that structure. You know, I always
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say my world felt like a horizontal marathon before the
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COVID and afterwards a vertical one, and I just couldn't
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keep up. So I knew there were happy people in
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the world.
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Speaker 1: I knew.
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Speaker 2: On the outside, my life looked great. And I was like,
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I'm missing something. So I really looked inward. And that's
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when my spiritual awakening happened and learning about energy and
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moving from energy work on people to energy work on spaces.
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I moved around a lot as a kid. So I've
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always had that awareness, but never really the language to
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put to it. So I'm so excited that all that's
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kind of come together now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Well, and I get it. Honestly,
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I get that. And so what I think was interesting
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is looking back during that upheaval, you know, where you
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say everything looked perfect on the outside, but it kind
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of felt heavy on the inside. So because you work
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with homes, what did your home look like then? Or
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what do you look back and see? Is there anything
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that you say, oh, that makes sense from where you've come?
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And I guess we got to get into what you
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do a little bit, but what do you look back
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and see what was that Was that part of the
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awakening or, you know, that kind of perspective? Because I
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love your perspective on the home.
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Speaker 2: I think my home before, I was just living in
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a world of shoulds. You know, I should do this
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and I should do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: In order for my kids to be happy, I need
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to do this. And that broke that outer shell. And
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I realized, okay, my kids are spirits having their own
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spiritual journey. I'm here to support them. Or like, there
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is use in fun. You know, like. Fun means you're
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raising your vibration and you're setting this new tone. Like
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it's an investment that returns. It's not this like extra
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that looks nice. So allowing for that yes to say
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to little fun moments or yes to bring in more
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color into my decor. You can kind of see my
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piano has a whale painted on it. That was a
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fun manifestation. Yeah. So I think before I didn't enjoy
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my home, I felt it was like... a structure I
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had to set up for other people to be happy
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and it was that was a responsibility and I think
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now there's more art there's more recognition of those little
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subtle things that are uplifting and raise your vibration one
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of the things I talk a lot about with my
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clients is nature and how much nature is refreshing for
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us and how can you bring nature in you've got
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beautiful floral print for me it's mountains I have lots
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of mountain prints around my home And they don't yell
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at you, but it's just that as I walk through
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or do things, it's like, oh, I feel a little
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more connected or I feel calmer. Or it's those subtle,
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almost subconscious, energetic notes that can really help.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you came to my house, almost
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everything on the wall is purposeful. During my kind of awakening,
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I had this really vivid dream of a zebra. Wow.
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We went out shopping and there was like a big
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print of a zebra. And I mean, I have to
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buy it and bring it home. And it was helping
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me see that like two, things are not black and white,
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but that doesn't mean they're opposing. They can be harmonious.
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Do you know what I mean? And so it's very
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meaningful to me. It sits right above my big tub
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that I love to remember that.
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Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
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Speaker 1: But I think this is a quote, it's your home
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isn't just where you live, it's where your frequency live.
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And so can you kind of unpack that a little bit,
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maybe for someone that's never heard that, you know, I
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think it's, I'm sure we can ask questions forever on that.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a lot of our conditioning is
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very logical minded where we think, okay, this is a function, right?
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The living room has a function, the kitchen has a function.
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What are the different, what do I need to set
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up to make this space work? But then when we
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have guests over, we don't. We think about the mood,
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the vibe, the energy. We really curate the experience. We say, okay,
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when they come in the front door, I want them to,
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I don't know, have a big sigh of relief or
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smell Christmas scents if it's Christmas time. Or I want
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this music on to set that kind of tone. And
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I want the people to move through the home this
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way and get the food here. It's a very curated experience.
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And I think for ourselves, we really tolerate a lot
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less and we forget that The home is where it's one,
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maybe you didn't build it yourself, but you picked it
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on some level and it's that sanctuary for you. It's
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your refresh place. Maybe it's your workplace. It's this space
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that's there to support you. And with a lot of
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my clients, I work on, okay, a lot of the
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things we picked sometimes throughout our lifetimes helped us in
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different ways, but maybe are not in tune with who
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you are becoming. So how can we look at that
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energetics of the space and be, again, that subtle support.
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So that frequency is another way of saying the energy.
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What are you attuning with? And so trying to make sure,
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like you said, in your space, it's very conscious that
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when you see these things, you pick things that are
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uplifting for you. Whether it's a hand be down, you
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didn't know how to let go of, or say goodbye
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and thank you, or whatever it may be, helping tune
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that space to support where you want to go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And what I love about what
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popped into my mind as we were chatting the first
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time is when I was kind of learning the energy
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world and learning about the chakras. And what I love
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about the chakras is it's like I have this issue
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in my life and I find the chakra that that
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belongs with. And I work on that chakra, you know,
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because sometimes you don't know what to do or you
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feel out of control or whatever, but it's like, just
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work on that chakra. And then you brought that idea
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into the home. And it's almost like, you know, look
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at the energetics of your home and then work on
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that maybe. And then that can help you feel uplifted.
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Cause I think, like you say, we're so logic minded.
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We want to to produce that rather than cure curate
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it it's a little bit different you know rather than
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create an experience that helps us feel happy we kind
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of want to just feel happy you know like what's
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wrong with.
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Speaker 2: Me right or serve the function oh i need to
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eat okay i need these supplies right and not just
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think about the time that we experience the memory there
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is in that experience and how it feels so giving
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allowing yourself the grace i mean i always give this
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example of like bowls when I, for a long time,
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we had these kitchen bowls, like cereal soup bowls that
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were chipped. We just had them for a while. And
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when I grew up, you didn't throw anything away until
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it really couldn't be used. And it just, it was
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an energetic weight. Every time I saw them, every time
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I washed them, every time I used them, every time
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I set the table, oh, oh, you know, I felt sad.
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And then at some point I was doing this work
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and I realized, right, I'm the grownup now in this situation.
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I can just throw them out and go buy new ones. Okay.
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And it wasn't that big of an investment. And now
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with COVID, you don't even have to go in the store.
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You can just park and they bring it to you.
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And then I came home and it's been years and
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I still get excited to use those bowls. So it's
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just these little tweaks. Where is a small investment where
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you can get that big return? Right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we think that as adults, we're not
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supposed to have that little twinge of excitement very much.
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You know, like the Christmas, the night before Christmas, we think, or,
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you know, that that's something that's beyond us or whatever, but. No,
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that's the feeling we're trying to get. And which is
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very different than just, you know, a sense of not
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a dope. It's different than a dopamine hit. You know
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what I mean? It's joy.
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Speaker 2: It is joy. Exactly. That higher frequency and then allowing
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yourself to savor that and to be in that feeling
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and to realize, yeah, that it's not just a luxury,
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but that can be your new energetic minimum. And that
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just opens so many doors for you that allows for
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that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Okay, so you talk about energetic clutter. And
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so talk about how that accumulates. And I think that
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like your chipped dishes were that same, it's just kind
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of happens. But let's talk about how we accumulate that
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and what that looks like or what.
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Speaker 2: That feels like, I guess. Yeah, that was news to me.
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So I kind of call it energetic dust. It actually
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happens naturally, just like physical dust does. So everything is energy.
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You are energy. I am energy. I mean, if you
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look down at the molecules in my desk, the atoms
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are moving. So everything is energy. And it kind of
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gives off this residue, whether it's things, people, or even
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emotional attachments we have. Or if you think of an
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easy example is you know, if someone's had an argument
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in a room and you weren't there and then you
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walk into the room, you're very aware there was an
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argument without anyone telling you usually. There's this energetic residue
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and you pick up on it. So it's all kind
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of around us. It collects in the homes, often in
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the corners, kind of like dust does. And so it's
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nice to have a refresh regularly, but sometimes there's a
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big change. Sometimes Somebody's moved into a new home, so
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you've got this whole new energetic footprint out with the
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old and with the new, and that deems a good
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time for a whole refresh. Or you've got welcoming a
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new member of the family, whether a baby or a pet.
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In these big life transitions, there's often a call for
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a bigger reset.
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Speaker 1: We went to a secondhand store looking at old cookbooks,
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me and my husband and my daughter and my grandson.
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And when we were coming out to the car, now
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I've talked about this forever, but it felt so nice
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to have them say it. They were like, I'm exhausted.
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And I'm like, this is what I've been telling you.
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You know, like my mom used to love going to
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secondhand stores and looking at books.
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Speaker 2: Treasure hunting.
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Speaker 1: And that was one of the things as I learned about,
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you know, some of my gifts and stuff, I was like,
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That's why I did not like going in there. It's
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like there's so much energy attached to so many different
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energies in that place because they belonged somewhere. You can
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feel it. You can feel it. Things do have an energy.
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And the person that they belong to sometimes, I think.
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Speaker 2: And I think you're right to notice that it comes
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with everything. I think those of us who work with
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crystals are pretty aware that when you buy a crystal,
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you kind of need to cleanse it before you work
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with it with you. But everything that you're bringing in
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and any of the spiritual tools that you like to
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use work with clearing the space and the energy of
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the thing. I really love that one of the strongest
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things is just setting your attention, saying a prayer, using
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your words, calling in the angels for help. That works great.
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But if you like a smudge stick, if you like crystals,
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whatever that tool is that you like to use. But
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like you said, bringing that awareness that it's not just
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you paying attention to how you feel that matters. And
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if you get that instinct that something is off, sound
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is another good one. A lot of spaces really work
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with sound. So You can clap or I use my
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sound bowl, changing the frequency in the air to clear it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I remember the first time I learned about using smoke,
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like a sage or whatever, to do my house. And
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we would go around. My friend was like, we're just
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going to sage it. We're going to sage your house.
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And it was during the time when me and my
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husband were having difficult times and the smell would be
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different in different rooms.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 1: And that we could tell, like, the intensity in certain
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places where I knew that we had had, you know,
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places that we kind of had arguments or where I
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had cried, my closet where I'd cried so much. Like,
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it was, you could tell. And it was, we had
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a third friend come, like, halfway in the middle of it.
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And I said, go smell that room. You know, and
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she wasn't, like, a spiritual type person. She was like, uh,
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that is weird. Yeah. So we were making it up.
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It was really, really interesting. And so, you know, that
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time I was just like, okay, it was one of those, yeah,
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there's something I can't see, but something's going on because
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I can smell it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you do that, you want to open
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a window for a little bit to let that release. Right, right.
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Because you've kind of turned it all up and then
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you want it to get out, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Yeah, we let it, yeah, we left the house,
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opened up all the windows.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 1: And said, okay, but, and it was interesting. It was,
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it was really interesting.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So I think people, um, logic minded people are going
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to think about like, um, physical decluttering, you know? So how,
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how do you know the difference between a home that
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needs physical decluttering and a home that needs energetic clearing?
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And maybe they look identical. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think it depends on the person. The energy comes.
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So energy, emotions are energy in motion. It really comes
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across as how you feel. So if there are places
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in your home that feel heavy or stuck, that's usually
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when I get called in to help. And most of
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my work right now is remote. So I don't actually
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see the inside house. I get a blueprint of the home.
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But often they are connected. So if you declutter for
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five minutes, I always say set a timer because it's
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really easy to get down that rabbit hole of a
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big cleaning project. But just tidying up a little bit
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sets a positive energetic anchor. When you see the space,
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you feel better. When you use the space, it's a
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little cleaner. That can always help. When I see energy
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flow through a space, when it goes in a home,
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it usually comes in the front door and out the
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back if you have a back door, but somehow goes
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through the whole space. For me, it looks like in
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my mind's eye, you know, the weather pattern maps where
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you see the airflow currents, it kind of looks like that.
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So if you've got a tidier space, It's easy for
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the energy to flow in and flow out, less likely
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to get stuck. If there's more physical clutter, it's more
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likely to get stuck. But also if we are keeping
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more physical clutter, often there's an emotion tied to it
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that hasn't been dealt with. So to just give yourself
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grace and not, you know, again, in my work, it's
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all about what's the little change I can make and
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get a big investment. So maybe you got a big
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pile of papers and you aim for the one at
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the bottom. If you don't do the whole stack, just
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start at the bottom. It's been months since you've looked
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at it. And that'll help you feel lighter and clear something.
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Or if it's that coffee table at a client who
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had a coffee table, she kept tripping over because it
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was too big for the space and it came out.
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It was a hereditary item. She'd gotten it from her
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great uncle who had passed and she felt bad with
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giving it away, but it didn't fit. So making peace
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with that, saying thank you, finding it a new home,
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going through those emotional steps, the energetics of it to
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allow it to let go allows... When you let go,
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you make space for the new opportunities to come in.
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So it is nothing but good for you, but it's
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not easy. It's a bit of the grieving process. You're
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going through that letting go process a little bit. So
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it can be heavy emotional work. So recognizing that it's
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not just you with the physical clutter. You know, there's
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that energy tied to it. There's more work than it looks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, so tell me, we should have started
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a little sooner with this, but tell me how, so
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what you do, how people connect with you, and what's
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that process like? Because I think it's a unique, energetic process.
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Everybody goes to have energy sessions, but this is so unique.
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I love this idea. I think it's something we probably
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need to do often.
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Speaker 2: I love it too.
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Speaker 1: Our space.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love how it's such a way to
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support people and it makes such a difference. So I
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trained as an angel Reiki master, which is a combination
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of Reiki, energy healing, and mediumship. And I first worked
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on people and worked with the main chakra centers. And
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the angels in my spirit guides kept bringing space messages
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stuff in front of me, like, you know, homes would
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come up or podcasts or all these things. And I
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was like, one day I just sat down and I said,
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iJournal was the easiest way for me to communicate with them.
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And I was like, okay, what gives? This is fun,
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but I don't understand. And I basically got a download
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of how I could use my training in the Angel
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Reiki and apply it to spaces. So actually when I
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give a report, so how it starts is people find
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me through my website or if I've connected with them. Again,
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often there's a big life transition or they feel this
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heaviness and stuck moved into a new home whatever it
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might be I've had all different types of intentions we
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always set an intention whether it's connecting more with your
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intuition or maybe there was difficulty communicating within the family
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or there's been a range of things and then I
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get a blueprint which is often just a hand sketch
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of the home but I need each room labeled with
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one word so bathroom bedroom living room and I start
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when I connect I clear energetically everything and tune in
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like I used to for bodies and do around the home.
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I also ask who's joining me for the clearing from
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the other side. There's often two to three archangels and
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sometimes a loved one from the other side. So I
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make note of that. And then we go through and
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again do the outside if there's any landscape or grounds
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and then in the front door and just go room
21:57
by room and I take notes the whole time. And
22:00
then afterwards provide a full report to my client. And
22:03
then we often meet afterwards too, for any questions. Cause
22:06
it's sometimes a lot of information or just how that,
22:10
that comes through. But I love that after the clear,
22:14
each space is cleared. The angels often have a little
22:17
message like, oh, and it's always so subtle, which I
22:19
find so loving. Like if you wanted to, you could
22:23
support this space by adding, like there was one room
22:26
that was high traffic and the energy built up very quickly.
22:30
And they recommended putting a rock salt to help absorb
22:32
some of that so the buildup didn't happen so quickly. Or,
22:36
I don't know, sometimes the energy is a little out
22:40
of balance and they've suggested more earth tones to help
22:44
ground the space. So there's all these little suggestions that
22:47
come through for each space and each space is different.
22:52
Speaker 1: Okay. So do you... Do people, have you had people
22:55
come that say like their house is haunted or that
22:58
kind of thing? Has that shown up for you?
23:00
Speaker 2: Yes, it has. So in the beginning it didn't because
23:02
I said I wasn't ready to work with them. I'm sure.
23:04
But once I got more established and I was like, okay,
23:07
I can do this. And they do show up. Yeah.
23:12
Sometimes there are clearings and I get to help the
23:14
spirit pass. Sometimes they know there's a ghost. Sometimes they
23:17
don't know there's a ghost. Like I had somebody whose
23:20
TV flicked on and off. randomly by itself. So they
23:23
knew somebody was around. But I had other ones, the
23:27
lady I was thinking of who had communication issues in
23:30
her family who had moved into a new home, that
23:32
turned out to be a mirror of the ghost who
23:34
was there, who was having those emotions. So helping her
23:37
cross over helped really clear that out. So it does
23:41
come up, but for me, it's always ends up being
23:44
a positive experience because the ghosts that I work with,
23:47
they're just lost. They're confused. They don't know why why
23:51
things don't work like they should, why are they there?
23:54
And they've got all these big emotions, whether it's fear
23:57
and scared or angry or frustrated or whatever that might be.
24:01
So I just get to help explain what's happening. And
24:04
then the angels create that portal so they can cross over.
24:07
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. Yeah. I love that. I think
24:09
it's interesting that, you know, where it's, it's scary to
24:13
us humans, but also, and I don't want to take
24:16
that away for people that that's kind of scary, but
24:18
at the same time, um, It's interesting that we think
24:23
we're going to transform. You know, we think that we're
24:25
going to become someone different as we pass on. But
24:28
you know what? We're still figuring it out. Even after
24:32
we've moved on. And there's some beauty to that. You
24:35
know what I mean? There's some beauty to that. That
24:38
I think, you know, you as an individual are so important.
24:42
We're not even going to change you. You know what
24:44
I mean?
24:44
Speaker 2: That's true. That's beautiful.
24:45
Speaker 1: You get to be who you are. Or you have
24:48
your experience.
24:49
Speaker 2: Yes.
24:50
Speaker 1: And it's valid and accepted. And even though it's not
24:54
fun or pleasurable, but I just, that's, it's just, that
24:58
was a difference I had to kind of make for
25:01
myself to be like, isn't that fascinating?
25:03
Speaker 2: Isn't that fascinating? Yeah, that the collective learns through the individual.
25:06
So the individual really counts, even though, yeah, when you
25:11
get to go home to the other side.
25:12
Speaker 1: So well said.
25:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's, it is beautiful.
25:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well said. So, yeah. So you say you
25:21
have to clear and connect in. So does that mean
25:23
that you don't have stuff happening all the time? You're
25:27
not constantly dealing with the energy?
25:30
Speaker 2: No, I tune in and then tune out.
25:33
Speaker 1: You tune in. So that's nice.
25:35
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only times I've had it is if I
25:37
have one scheduled and then I've had spirits show up
25:41
like an hour before the session. Right. And I'm like,
25:45
what are you doing here? Yeah. You're early. You know,
25:50
I had one where like a ghost wants to be
25:51
yelling at me the whole time. And I was like, okay,
25:53
I'm coming. And then I knew like when I started
25:57
the session, aim for that room first. Like, you know,
26:00
no use in doing my normal nice methodical go through
26:04
in an orderly manner. Like I head there first and
26:06
address that. So sometimes they show up early when it's
26:10
scheduled and they know it's going to happen. But no,
26:13
not all the time.
26:15
Speaker 1: I think that's special that you specifically do room by room.
26:19
I mean, each room has its own energy and you
26:23
even relate them to the chakras.
26:25
Speaker 2: I do. I include that.
26:26
Speaker 1: Can you talk about that a little bit, which I
26:27
thought was fascinating.
26:28
Speaker 2: It's fascinating for me too. So when you work as
26:31
a medium, the angels and the spirits on the other
26:35
side can only use the language you have to communicate
26:38
with you. Like, you know, when you meet medical mediums
26:42
and they have more medical knowledge, they can use that.
26:45
So I think it's partially because I had that language
26:48
and I understood those connections that it's part of the
26:51
way they communicate with me. But what fascinates me is
26:53
every house is different. It's never like the root is
26:57
the living room. The crown chakra is the, I don't know.
27:01
It's always different. So it's fun because then I can say, okay,
27:05
if this is for you, your crown chakra, like for
27:07
one lady, it was her back porch. I was like,
27:09
this is a really great place for you to connect
27:11
with spirit. And she goes, oh, yeah, that's actually where
27:14
I go do my meditations. So it always lines up
27:18
with the person. It's never the same. But it is,
27:21
like you were saying, when you identify that that chakra
27:24
can help you with something and then you spend time
27:26
with it, it's kind of like that. Okay, this is
27:29
the heart of the home. You know, just be aware
27:32
of that, how that affects the family dynamics or how
27:35
that affects you and how you can support it because
27:37
it's linked. Okay.
27:41
Speaker 1: So you're clearing and you're offering ways to take advantage
27:47
of the energy of each room.
27:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea is you get to maintain it and
27:52
you get some insight on how that house works.
27:58
Speaker 1: And then how often do you think it's something that
28:01
people would want to do more often? Or have you
28:05
ever had someone come back a second time and say,
28:07
ready again?
28:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they like the information too and the check.
28:13
But I think I often, with my signature experience, I
28:17
offer a custom blessing. So I like to give you
28:20
some of the tools that you can use kind of
28:22
on a regular basis. And then we can check in
28:26
if you feel stuck, if it feels heavy, like the
28:28
tools you have aren't supporting you in the way you
28:31
need or if there is some other change. And so
28:35
it's kind of what happens in life. Okay.
28:38
Speaker 1: True yeah I love it is there been a time
28:41
when a home kind of or is there a story
28:44
of when a home kind of resisted you or or
28:46
the opposite if it just was super magical both I've
28:50
had both and I yeah I'd love to hear about.
28:53
Speaker 2: It again it gives you so much any time I
28:56
get to do this work it's so I I'm just
28:59
a witness um kind of you know the channel but
29:02
it's so empowering but also so awe-inspiring um Thinking of stuck,
29:08
I had a house once where there was a particular
29:12
concern for the garage. Like it was used as a
29:14
storage area and they were hoping to clear it out
29:17
and kind of jumpstart that need with their partner and
29:22
kind of get the conversation flowing. And the angels blacked
29:26
it out for me when I got there. And they said,
29:29
it's not time. There's a lot here. It's not time now.
29:32
And I got frustrated because like, oh, wait a second.
29:35
I got hired to clear this. Let's uh work with
29:38
it and they're like no no it's not time so
29:40
I had to go back and say I'm sorry I
29:42
couldn't lift the energy here but they give a very
29:45
clear message that it will happen but it's not time
29:48
right now so they were accepting of that which was
29:51
lucky um but it does sometimes because there are like
29:56
you can't manifest for someone else There are lots of
30:01
different dynamics going on, so it's not always, everything's not
30:05
always accessible, but we try.
30:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, I bet that comes
30:10
up quite a bit. They're like, you know, my teenage
30:12
child is really bugging me. Can you clear this up? Or,
30:16
you know what I mean? Is it kind of like,
30:18
does that come up as far as they want to
30:20
change the dynamics of the household?
30:23
Speaker 2: Some times, but I would say most of the time
30:26
people are just worried. You know, they want everyone to
30:29
have the best and they love, you know, it's more
30:32
of a loving intention. But sometimes there is a surprise.
30:36
There was a woman who was feeling some stuck energy
30:40
and it turned out her uncle who had recently passed
30:42
was stuck there. So there was this idea of, okay, well,
30:47
he's feeling forgotten. Can we make an altar somehow in
30:52
this space to remember family and ancestors? Because I think
30:58
it would help ground you and that love would be
31:00
felt from the other side. So sometimes things come up
31:03
you don't even realize, but you can kind of feel that.
31:07
And with kids' rooms, usually it's just... It's more of
31:12
an information, more of a clearing, and what's reflected back
31:15
is often the personality, which is fun. Yeah.
31:20
Speaker 1: I love that. It sounds like there's just all sorts
31:23
of solutions, and it's so creative. I love it.
31:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
31:26
Speaker 1: I love it.
31:27
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's one. I think I'm trying to
31:31
say all the things at once. Well, you know, often
31:33
people are afraid of spirit or talking about these things
31:36
because they're worried there might be bad news. But for me,
31:39
it's just such a joy because it's always... Spirit always
31:42
meets you where you are. You know, the messages are
31:45
relevant to where you are now in your life journey.
31:48
There's no judgment, and they're always just suggestions. You know,
31:51
free will comes first. So it's like, look, you could
31:54
do this if you would like. It's so nice.
31:58
Speaker 1: I love that. So what do you think is the
32:01
most maybe people are surprised by that affects them? You know,
32:07
like they're surprised that something like that is actually affecting them.
32:12
Speaker 2: Them.
32:12
Speaker 1: And I still love your chipped things. Cause I get it.
32:15
It's like in your, in it, you don't know how
32:17
much it's affecting you until you kind of change. And
32:20
you're like, that was, that was a deal. It was
32:23
so small.
32:24
Speaker 2: It's so small.
32:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
32:25
Speaker 2: Or the towels, like towels get really thin and you
32:27
just use them. You don't, the bath towels, you don't
32:29
think about it. How fun is it to have fluffy,
32:32
colorful towels? So yeah, anything little like that. And, and
32:37
that comes down to also, caring about how you feel.
32:41
You know, we have, a lot of us have this
32:43
old tie to using the best, like, you know, you
32:45
save the best dishes for the holidays or somebody else
32:48
when they come over and you forget that you can
32:51
be the special person and use the best cup for
32:53
your coffee. So some of the work is kind of
32:57
that personal development work where it's choosing not to tolerate,
33:03
but to support yourself and allow for that high energy
33:08
for yourself. Um, I think in terms of actual things,
33:12
every house is different for me. It's all, I don't
33:15
know why, but the, um, the hereditary things where you
33:18
took something you didn't want, but you felt stuck with it. Right.
33:22
Pass that.
33:23
Speaker 1: Um, okay.
33:25
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of times it's things that we
33:29
purchase that are functional that worked for you at that time.
33:33
That don't work for you now. Or in general, I
33:36
would say the three things that always come up are lighting.
33:39
A lot of us inherit home or we buy home
33:41
somebody else built. So the lighting structure is set up
33:44
by someone else and we don't take the time to think, oh,
33:47
I could really use low lighting in this space in
33:49
the evening. Or I could use more bright light for
33:52
focusing for work. How can I change the lighting?
33:56
Speaker 1: The air.
33:57
Speaker 2: How can you refresh the air? I always open the
33:59
windows every day. That's what I like, but you can
34:02
light a scented candle. You could, how can you change
34:05
the frequency of the air? That can be a big
34:08
positive trigger. And then we talked about nature and I
34:12
really like to bring in your favorite scent. So I
34:15
like my sense of sight. So for me, that's prints
34:18
or an actual bouquet of flowers. If you like your
34:21
sense of hearing the best, you can put nature sounds
34:24
in the background. Like Not high enough that you really
34:27
notice it, but low enough that it's there and it
34:30
makes you feel nice in this space. It kind of
34:32
just is uplifting. Or if you like sense of smell,
34:36
then again, a nice essential oil spray or scented candle.
34:42
Speaker 1: I like it all. I like it all. I'm like,
34:45
that sounds lovely. I love that. Okay, so here's a
34:54
strange question. So a couple of years ago, my dad
34:58
passed away, my mom had passed away a while before.
35:00
So we as children had to clear out the family home.
35:04
And there was a lot going on and I didn't
35:08
take very many things home. I didn't need very many things.
35:13
And I don't feel.
35:22
Necessarily bad about that but I do feel like I
35:25
should feel a little.
35:26
Speaker 2: Bad about that.
35:29
Speaker 1: Like that I didn't you know like that and my
35:31
mom was so she was so a collector and things
35:36
like were special to her and and we just kind
35:39
of got rid of stuff and um and so I
35:44
wondered you know your your take on yeah you would
35:48
probably be someone who probably has an insight into that
35:52
Do you think that our stuff matters as much as
35:55
we think? And you can say yes, and I made
35:57
a mistake.
35:58
Speaker 2: Not at all. I actually have a very strong opinion
36:00
about this, but I would say first is to follow
36:02
your intuition. So we're all different. I work with homes,
36:06
and I worked with a woman who loved the color red,
36:10
and it made her happy and calm to have the
36:12
entire wall covered with art. I love art, but that
36:16
much makes me feel a little... claustrophobic and anxious. So
36:21
I was like, that would not calm me down, but
36:23
it calms you down. So we're all different. And if
36:26
it is a positive energetic anchor for you and it's
36:29
uplifting and you want to bring it in your home, great.
36:32
But my personal experience, and I've had my husband and
36:36
I actually talk about this regularly because we just remind
36:39
ourselves that this is our life to live. And as
36:41
much as we like the legacy idea, the things that
36:44
we love, our kids won't necessarily love. So as much
36:47
as we'd love to pass down even a house or
36:50
a piece of land, like, let's think about this. At
36:53
the end, they can make their own life. What they
36:57
love is not what can be what we love. And
36:59
we shouldn't have to put that pressure on them and
37:02
worry about it. Like, we should get to worry about
37:05
us enjoying the life and the time we have. So
37:08
we actually have that conversation regularly. And my mother and
37:11
I had the conversation regularly, too, because we were on
37:14
opposite ends when I was growing up. For her, the
37:16
things were very comforting and it established legacy and it
37:23
established her as part of, there were big mementos for her,
37:29
different stages in her lifetime and they meant a lot
37:31
to her. And she would always say, well, these will
37:33
be yours one day and these will be yours one day.
37:35
And I was like, okay, but they aren't and they
37:39
don't need to be. So for me, they don't have
37:44
that same, that same value. I have the memories. And
37:48
like you said, there are a few key items that
37:51
she's passed on already that I love. And they just
37:56
remind me that I am part of that lineage. It
38:00
doesn't take a lot to remember, but you really, you
38:04
want it to be uplifting and a positive thing for
38:07
you and not a, I have to, should to kind
38:09
of situation.
38:11
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. My kids are not going to have a
38:13
connection to my zebra of.
38:15
Speaker 2: They didn't have your vision.
38:16
Speaker 1: Like they're not going to have that. Yeah, they didn't
38:19
have it. So that's okay. And when we first, you know,
38:24
when it was time to kind of work on that,
38:26
my brother made like a Google Doc and was like, okay,
38:30
if you want something, put it here, you know, put
38:32
your name. And he made this Google Doc. And we
38:36
used it maybe a couple things. But the only thing
38:39
I wrote on that Google Doc was, we had like
38:43
these corral dishes and they had the smallest dish and
38:47
they're you don't you can't really find them anymore they're
38:50
a little different and I all I wanted was the
38:52
stack of corral little teeny bowls because um when I
38:57
was little I was the youngest and it had the
39:00
same print as the big you know so I would
39:02
have my little bowl and I felt like I was
39:04
big you know have it I mean, to me, just day,
39:08
those bowls give me the great, like, I love those bowls.
39:12
They make me so happy and they are so worth nothing.
39:16
They are so worth nothing. And so it's just funny,
39:18
the things that become special, you know, it wasn't, you know,
39:21
my mom had these collections that she was like, I
39:24
bet this is worth money. And I was like, okay, but. Well,
39:27
I think it's.
39:27
Speaker 2: Nice that your brother wanted to make sure. everybody got
39:30
a chance at it and he didn't just yeah it
39:32
was nice but I agree like we we forget that
39:35
even within a family every kid has a different experience
39:38
the parents are a different age when they come around
39:40
the economics are different the sibling structure is different like
39:44
Even though you're in the same house, the experience is
39:46
very different. And like you said, what brings you joy
39:50
or what is that happy memory or that it elicits
39:53
that good feeling to you can be different. And it's
39:56
good to follow that. And it doesn't mean you don't
39:59
remember them because you don't have your house full of
40:01
their stuff.
40:03
Speaker 1: Right.
40:04
Speaker 2: Right.
40:04
Speaker 1: Agreed.
40:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
40:06
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was just kind of an interesting experience
40:08
to clear that house out. I'd lived there almost my
40:11
whole life. Yeah, it's a picture. It's a big job
40:15
full of lots of emotions. Yeah. So do you clear
40:21
houses maybe if somebody's going to move? Is that a
40:24
good time?
40:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great time. It's probably a really good time.
40:26
If you're looking to sell the home and maybe the
40:28
home's stuck and not selling, that's a great time. If
40:30
you've just moved into a new home and you want
40:32
to make sure, just like you would repaint everything so
40:35
it's a fresh coat of paint for you, you want
40:37
to clear out that energy and make sure your family
40:39
has a fresh start, that's a great time.
40:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I want that. I'm ready.
40:45
Speaker 2: Thank you.
40:47
Speaker 1: I want that. I think that's so, I love it.
40:50
I just, I love like a, you know, that feeling,
40:53
that fresh feeling. And so I just feel like, yeah,
40:55
I never thought of, I mean, I'd like, like I say,
40:57
I've saged, I use crystals and oils, but I've never,
41:00
and I've had people do, I've had a clearing once,
41:03
but it was more about focused on maybe other people
41:10
like energies, you know, not just the stuff, you know,
41:14
but I.
41:14
Speaker 2: Was like, of course. We just tolerate. Somehow we forget
41:17
when we get home, you know, the drawer sticks and
41:19
we get frustrated every day and we don't take the
41:22
five minutes it would be to oil the hinge and
41:24
fix it because we just deal with it and kind
41:26
of eat that negative energy. And so if the room
41:30
doesn't feel great, you're like, oh, but I'm too tired
41:32
to deal with it. You know, like it's, we forget
41:34
that the little things kind of do it can be
41:38
an opportunity to be a little thing that uplifts instead.
41:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we've moved a couple times and you're getting
41:45
ready to sell the house, I get so mad at
41:48
myself when I'm like, I'm fixing this for the next people.
41:52
I should have fixed it for myself. What am I thinking?
41:55
We made a big deal when we moved to be like,
41:57
let's have on our calendar, I think every couple of months,
42:01
maybe it's three months, four times a year, we block
42:05
out kind of a Saturday and just, okay, what needs
42:07
to be looked at? And let's do that for ourselves.
42:11
Let's fix it for ourselves, not just for everyone else.
42:15
Have you ever had the home tell you that people
42:19
need to move, like that it's time they're done with
42:22
this space? Would you think that would ever show up?
42:24
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I have not had that. I've
42:29
had an extreme kind of like, I had the seraphim
42:33
angels come in in mass once in a house and
42:36
like do this big filter lift up like a house
42:39
needed a really big change. And I've had like, again,
42:46
it was fun because I just saw this in my
42:48
mind's eye. I didn't see the pictures, but somebody had
42:52
their partner was a mechanic and they had kind of
42:54
car parts strewn in the front yard. It was a
42:56
country home. And the angels very clearly said, go ahead
42:59
and move those to the back of the property. That's
43:01
really impeding the flow of energy and opportunity and abundance
43:04
and all these things. So sometimes they'll say to move
43:07
stuff around or to clear a space, the front entryway
43:12
of your home, even if you don't use the front
43:13
door regularly, that's energetically a symbol of welcoming abundance, opportunity,
43:19
energy into the home. So you want that to be clear.
43:21
So that comes up regularly of, okay, that's a neglected space.
43:24
Give it some TLC. Um, but I haven't had anybody
43:28
yet to be like, oof, not a good fit. Out
43:31
you go. Yeah.
43:35
Speaker 1: That's probably.
43:35
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's more like, this is your space. Let's make
43:38
it work for you.
43:39
Speaker 1: Yeah. We have a, a, a one, a video in
43:43
the library. Um, and she's this, she's this young mom.
43:48
She just is very, um, intentional with taking care of
43:51
her home. So every, like every Monday, I think it is,
43:54
she talks about sweeping her front front porch, just, and
43:58
it's more symbolically than it is, it needs to be cleaned,
44:01
that it's just a refresh, you know. And I loved
44:05
that idea. I wish I would have had that growing up, or,
44:07
you know, when I was busy being the mom and
44:10
doing all that stuff, to have those kind of, make
44:14
it a ritual. I mean, it made the taking care
44:17
of the home A ritual. And to hear yourself.
44:19
Speaker 2: That's a really nice meditation because then you're just out
44:22
there doing something methodical for five, 10 minutes and it's
44:25
a breather space and your self and your space is
44:30
going to win. Yeah. I love habit stacking. So with like,
44:35
I think that's James Clear that does that, but you know,
44:38
same thing. What small investment instead of kind of taking
44:41
on the whole home going, okay, For me, bad example,
44:44
but this was popped into my head. It's like cleaning
44:46
the toilets. Not my favorite chore ever, but it needs
44:49
to be done. So whenever I take out the trash
44:51
every week for the trash cans, I think, okay, I
44:55
can habit stack this also not so nice chore and
44:57
go ahead and do it while I'm in the bathroom. Yeah, smart.
45:00
But finding, like you said, little habits that can help
45:04
with the upkeep and not feel so heavy.
45:08
Speaker 1: Do you have a small shift that usually makes a
45:11
big difference that... that you found for people or would
45:14
you give people a small, something small that makes a
45:17
big difference or maybe it's big?
45:20
Speaker 2: Well, I think it, if a lot of it's custom,
45:23
so paying attention to how you feel. So if, if
45:25
it is that kitchen drawer, a bathroom door that is, um, sticking,
45:30
or we all have that junk drawer, whether it's in
45:32
the kitchen or the bathroom. So if you clear that
45:34
out and get rid of some of that junk, that
45:36
actually usually is a good reset. Um, Or just paying attention.
45:40
So like I said, for me, it was bowls and towels.
45:43
Maybe for you, it's, I don't know, pillows, something else.
45:48
So seeing what kind of irks you the wrong way
45:51
and changing it. But other than that, I go back
45:53
to the light, the air, and the nature. So see
45:56
how you can just look at, okay, in this space,
46:00
and every space is going to be different, is this
46:03
really serving me? Do I struggle to read in the
46:06
evening because I need a brighter light or do I,
46:08
you know? Bring that awareness in.
46:12
Speaker 1: So were you, have you been invited by the angels
46:16
or whatever to, does it align with feng shui at
46:19
all or has that not been the case?
46:21
Speaker 2: Not yet. I've started reading about it. I appreciate it.
46:24
It's such an old methodology and it has so much
46:30
set up, you know, like there's so much structure to it,
46:33
but I haven't been certified in it. You haven't dived
46:36
deep into it. It seems for me. at least for now,
46:40
to work so well, to work with the angels and
46:42
receive their messages for those little tweaks that come through
46:47
for each individual person. I really enjoy that. And that
46:50
seems to land.
46:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. I don't know much about
46:56
feng shui. I mean, I'm not against it or anything
46:58
like that. But I feel like that's almost the shift
47:02
that has happened in a little more than the last decade,
47:05
I feel like, is There used to be rules, you know,
47:08
feng shui is very rule-oriented, and we've moved into more
47:11
of a, like you're saying, well, how does it feel
47:14
to you? More of an individual way of doing it.
47:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels right. And maybe, like you said, maybe
47:20
it's just a swing of the pendulum the other way,
47:22
where we've been living under so many rules, and we've
47:24
been conditioned so long that we're trying to figure out
47:26
where we fit in that world and hear ourselves as well. Yeah, true.
47:31
But that does, it does feel better for me, but
47:34
at the same time, I recognize... there are, there's a
47:37
lot of history there of like, what does blue mean
47:40
typically mean to people? What is green? So there is
47:43
a lot there to draw from, but I think you
47:46
can get lost in it. So if you can start
47:48
with you and then add on as it follow your intuition.
47:54
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Okay. So I want to talk a
47:56
little bit about your Reiki training just because it's, it's,
47:59
it's unique to me at least. So tell me a
48:04
modality and what made that one different and what that
48:07
was like getting that Reiki. And then we'll talk about
48:10
transferring it over to your homes and more of that process.
48:14
But how is that Reiki different than other Reikis? And
48:19
maybe that's all you know.
48:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, I haven't done another program, so I
48:22
don't know exactly. We did have three attunements like other
48:25
Reiki programs. I think there was just this recognition and
48:29
the teacher does a lot of mediumship. So she recognized
48:32
that when the main chakras act like portals. And so
48:36
when you get to those centers, often when they open,
48:40
messages start to come through. And so to recognize the messages,
48:45
to recognize that, to kind of open that door and
48:49
allow for it, and to learn how to receive messages,
48:54
to learn how to discern between the ego and the
48:56
intuition that When we're working as mediums, the egoic mind,
49:00
how do I explain that? They kind of literally feel heavier,
49:03
the thoughts. And the intuitive ones, the ones from spirit,
49:08
feel lighter and softer. So getting to discern and allow
49:13
that ego to pause and to those messages to come
49:16
through and that messages uh to build the confidence to
49:20
say what you for me it's see i see a
49:22
lot in my mind's eye sometimes i hear sometimes i
49:24
smell but it's and sometimes i know but mostly it's
49:27
seeing um to trust those because when you're a channel
49:31
when you're a medium the messages aren't for you they
49:33
are using your language so you can get clues but
49:37
you always have to relay them So when I'm taking notes,
49:39
even now for homes, images will come up and I'm like,
49:42
I don't get this, but I'll write it down because
49:45
then when I deliver the message, it makes sense to
49:47
the recipient. Yeah.
49:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can really appreciate that. When I went through
49:53
my Reiki trainings, you know, you would, you would, we
49:57
would have the classroom version, you know, and then we'd
49:59
get to the practice as we're practicing. And as soon
50:02
as the practicing goes on, everyone is it. I mean,
50:06
for myself, even, um, And I was still very much
50:11
kind of in the muggle, you know, more of a
50:13
muggle at that time. The first time I went through
50:15
and when I put my hands on, I could just
50:17
feel my body move, you know, move to it. And,
50:21
you know, for half a second, you're like, am I
50:23
doing this? You know, this is strange. I would have
50:26
loved some more support around that because everybody was getting
50:32
things different ways. And then that was kind of, you know,
50:35
you're kind of, and then everybody's like wondering, Is my
50:38
hand right? You know, they'd move their hand an eighth
50:41
of an inch down because they got it in the
50:43
wrong spot. And I'm like, I don't know if energy.
50:45
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's that. Yeah, but that's kind
50:47
of in tune. And when you work remotely and you're
50:50
working off a body graph, or as I do now,
50:52
the blueprints, same kind of thing. You start channeling that
50:55
energy and you get a feel for it. Or I
50:58
also love that when I clear, every person or every
51:02
home has a different symbol back to me to tell
51:06
me it's cleared. Like one time I was working with
51:09
a woman and the symbol that it was all cleared
51:11
was this smell of like apple pie. And I was like, well,
51:15
that's fun. And I just kept going. But at the
51:17
end I said something and I said, and I, and
51:19
she goes, oh, that's actually what my perfume is. Everybody
51:22
always compliments me. It smells like apple pie. And I
51:24
was like, who would have thought? But it's always, you know,
51:28
and sometimes it literally looks like wrapping a bow or
51:30
sometimes it's every time it's different, but there's always a
51:33
sign for, okay, this is clear, move on. So it's. Um,
51:37
it's fun, but I, yeah, I agree that I think
51:40
we all, everyone I've talked to these who works with
51:43
Reiki energy there, the door is open and you're, you
51:46
are getting messages, but if that support's not there, and
51:48
this was fun for me too, cause I got to
51:50
learn about, um, archangels and the different things they help
51:54
you too. And it may, it opened up that door
51:56
too of, you know, when I was, uh, learning and
52:00
learning first about religion and stuff, again, there are lots
52:03
of rules of like, you need to pray In this
52:05
way or to this person to get that help. And
52:07
then when that door with the angels is open, it's like, nope,
52:10
they're teams. Just get the prayer out and the right
52:14
team will come help.
52:15
Speaker 1: Right. They didn't hear their name, so they're not listening.
52:21
Speaker 2: Or like, you know, Archangel Michael has, you know, probably
52:25
trillions of angels on his team. And so you just
52:28
kind of say, you know, say your prayers, say what
52:30
you need, say what you're thankful for and the right.
52:33
There's so many angels waiting to help.
52:37
Speaker 1: So how did you learn to trust those messages? Good question.
52:41
And like to me, I mean, doing it during the
52:43
pandemic and having that, I mean, that doesn't seem like
52:46
that long ago for me. So good job. In a, quote,
52:50
short period of time, not only unravel, but put yourself
52:54
together and then trust it. How did you learn to
52:59
trust that? Because I think that's one of the most
53:01
difficult things.
53:01
Speaker 2: Yes, it's human. And I think it's a constant process.
53:03
So I think they're sending some sort of light in today.
53:08
I think I can only give credit to the angels.
53:11
I think it's one of those things like you're right.
53:13
Our human brain needs the evidence to kind of like
53:17
stack up the evidence. So I started learning about archangels
53:20
and I went through like one at a time to
53:21
kind of do a deep dive. And I learned about
53:24
Archangel Michael and attempts to work on myself. I was
53:29
also exercising and I would do these loops at that
53:31
time around our back deck just to get out and
53:33
get a little short walk. because that's what I was
53:35
available for. That's what I could do at that time.
53:37
And one morning I went out, and there was this
53:39
big black feather on the deck. Never before have I
53:42
ever found a feather on the deck, ever. And I
53:45
was like, when I just learned about Archangel Michael, and
53:47
blackbirds are one symbol of Archangel Michael, there's a big
53:50
black feather. I'm like, okay, somebody heard me. You know,
53:53
like there were chills, right. Or my cousin passed just
54:00
before my daughter was born, but we shared a birthday.
54:02
She was three years older than I. Um, and she's
54:07
helped me a lot through this process. She was there
54:10
at two of my attunements from on the other side. And,
54:13
but she started, she was a prankster. She is a prankster. Um,
54:16
so she started that, that summer, uh, when I started,
54:21
I was also, we have a treadmill going on the
54:24
treadmill and she would stop it mid like stride. And, um,
54:30
I would get really freaked out. I was like, what
54:33
is this? And then I realized, okay, wait a second.
54:36
You've opened this door. Perhaps someone's trying to communicate with
54:39
you because spirits, I mean, common symbols are like electricity,
54:43
anything with electricity or coins or feathers and all these things.
54:46
So I started speaking and I was like, oh, Liz,
54:49
is that you? And then it stopped. And I was like, oh,
54:52
that is you playing tricks on me and like just
54:54
trying to get my attention. But, you know, you got
54:57
to quit because you're giving me heart attacks. And I
55:00
dead stop on the treadmill. So, but like little things
55:04
kept happening where it was like, it's positive. There's no
55:08
other explanation for it. And if I open that door
55:12
to admitting there are these connections in the unseen world,
55:17
there's so much more. And there are all these like
55:20
through lines and I can see somebody asked for something
55:23
and then it came and I was like, oh, that
55:25
was help, you know, like. I no longer believe in coincidences.
55:29
So what door does that open? Where is this angelic
55:32
help coming in? Or, you know, letting go of that
55:36
expectation of the outcome and allowing the universe to make
55:40
it even better and kind of watching these little things unfold.
55:43
And then, of course, being a medium, when you get
55:46
that validation from someone else and you see how much
55:48
it means to them. And you didn't know it. You
55:50
couldn't have said it if you thought about it. And
55:52
it's meeting them where they are in the moment of
55:55
things they were thinking about personally and not necessarily sharing
55:58
with everyone. And when I, especially when I worked on people,
56:05
but sometimes houses too, like for me, the heart chakra
56:08
always looks like a garden and seeing the beauty of
56:12
those gardens and people's hearts. I just, I've never seen
56:17
something so beautiful. So it was kind of like you
56:20
were saying, your zebra vision. You have that and you
56:23
can't unsee it. You know, it really affects you. It
56:28
changes your perspective. It changes your appreciation. It changes those
56:33
little but very value-oriented things in your beliefs. And you
56:39
realize it's all reflections of love. It's all positive. You
56:42
may not understand it all, but it's all working in
56:45
your favor and everyone's favor. So you go with it
56:48
and then you see a little bit more and you
56:50
see a little bit more and that builds.
56:53
Speaker 1: I appreciate that so much that you saw the changes
56:58
as so positive. I think for me, things were like,
57:04
it was like, there's, even as much as like, there's not,
57:07
it's not coincidences. There's everything's on purpose. Like it was
57:10
all just unravel, unravel.
57:12
Speaker 2: Well, yeah. The sense of responsibility is scary at first.
57:14
You're like, I'm a creator of everything. What did I do? Right. Right.
57:23
Speaker 1: What would you say if somebody wanted to learn more
57:25
about the angels? And I, I think too, there's this
57:29
piece in a lot of us that feels like that's,
57:33
so sacred that maybe I'm not, you know, how can
57:36
we feel comfortable connecting with the angels? And where can
57:39
we learn? Where did you learn about them? And there's
57:42
so many different resources. Do you have a favorite or
57:45
a way that you.
57:46
Speaker 2: So my teacher was Julie Jancis, is who I trained with.
57:48
And she has a book named after her podcast too,
57:52
Angels and Awakening. So that was a great resource to start.
57:55
I'm just naturally curious and I love to learn. So
57:59
anytime I find a book, I really enjoy reading books
58:02
about mediums of, of the past because they always offer
58:08
like little clues of like, oh, this is kind of
58:11
the thing. So I always pick or listening to podcasts.
58:14
There are lots of really great podcasts. Um, and just
58:18
being open to it. I mean, you can always, I,
58:20
like I said, I communicate with my guides most easily, well,
58:22
by journaling and free writing. So find whether that's talking
58:26
for you or writing and, and ask, ask for help, say, Hey,
58:30
I'm interested in, and learning more about this. And then
58:33
it always, you know, it'll come in. I went to
58:36
go buy a new pair of eyeglasses. I've got contacts
58:39
in right now. And the woman who helped me, next
58:42
thing I knew, we were having a conversation about her
58:44
mother on the other side and all the signs she's received.
58:47
And so I think once you kind of set that
58:49
intention and you're open to it and asking for help,
58:53
the universe can help you find resources as well. Mm-hmm.
58:59
Speaker 1: Well, I just love, I love your trust. I feel
59:01
like that younger version that questioned is just like on
59:05
fire now, you know, and you're getting the answers, you know,
59:09
like you're actually finally finding a medium that will give
59:13
you the answers and never gets to the end and says,
59:16
I don't know.
59:16
Speaker 2: It's great. I just have to remember my stubborn self
59:19
sometimes thinks I can still do everything by myself. And
59:22
then I get to him, oh, right, go ask for help. Right.
59:26
I know.
59:27
Speaker 1: I hear you. Like I said, I get it from
59:28
writing most too, but I don't like writing.
59:30
Speaker 2: No? Oh, I love it.
59:32
Speaker 1: I'm on read. Oh, I wish. My mom loved it.
59:35
She's like, you could just practice writing for ages. And
59:38
I was like, or not.
59:40
Speaker 2: Well, then you can.
59:41
Speaker 1: She loved it.
59:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry. She loved it.
59:44
Speaker 1: So, you know, it's good. I need to just write
59:46
my question and then receive my answer. Like I'm trying
59:50
to write so quickly to try.
59:51
Speaker 2: And get the words out. Once you get to that space,
59:56
that clear space where you feel really connected and open,
59:59
and that's the receiving mode, ask a gentle question and
1:00:02
just wait, and the answer would pop. Yeah, I just
1:00:06
forget things really easily. So if I write it down,
1:00:09
then I've got it for reference.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: True. True. That's good. That's true. And that is one thing.
1:00:15
I know that I can... get in my journal, write
1:00:17
a question. And, you know, I have, I've built that
1:00:19
muscle of trust that it's like, I can get something.
1:00:22
Speaker 2: You could record it. Do you ever do voice memos
1:00:23
for yourself?
1:00:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good idea too. And I need to
1:00:28
just accept the fact that I am more visual. Like
1:00:32
I am more of just sitting there and like, I'll
1:00:36
get a download in a vision. And then, so I'm
1:00:39
trying to describe the vision or, you know, the image
1:00:42
or the story. And it's like, so big. It's hard
1:00:45
to even condense it for me.
1:00:46
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times we also forget that
1:00:49
it sounds like our own voice. Like I think sometimes
1:00:51
we're waiting for that divine download and we go, oh,
1:00:54
you're like the sound of God in my head. I
1:00:56
don't know. It sounds like you. You just, once you
1:01:00
get used to it and you realize, oh, I didn't
1:01:02
have that knowledge. That didn't come from me. Then, yeah. Yep. Yep.
1:01:07
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Seeing like people that are willing to put
1:01:12
themselves out there and talk about those things. And, you know,
1:01:16
these like ideas and ways that the world and the
1:01:20
universe works. And you're like, Oh, I, I, I've so
1:01:23
many times I thought, Oh, I'm just, I just thought
1:01:24
I was just thinking, I thought I was just thinking about, Hey,
1:01:27
I wonder if that works that way. You know, I
1:01:29
just thought I was having this own little thought process.
1:01:32
It was like, Oh no, it's almost word for word
1:01:34
for what they're saying. Interesting.
1:01:37
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: Um, I love it. All right. Well, I'm excited. Um,
1:01:42
to share your offering. I really think it's unique and special.
1:01:46
And I love the way you made it your own.
1:01:49
That's always, I love that. I make things my own.
1:01:52
So I always like when people do it so creatively.
1:01:55
And I think it's a great thing. And I think
1:01:59
you should create a program and register people and certify people. Oh, wow.
1:02:04
Speaker 2: Thank you.
1:02:04
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I think you should do that. Help
1:02:08
other people. Because we need more of you. Because I
1:02:10
think That is really useful. Really, really useful. I love it.
1:02:15
So we'll make sure all of your ways for people
1:02:18
to get a hold of you are in the show
1:02:20
notes and you have a podcast and that's, so we'll
1:02:22
put that in there too. And hopefully we'll get some
1:02:26
videos of you in our library, which will be really,
1:02:30
really precious. But at the end of our episodes, we
1:02:33
always want to ask our guests their idea of wholeness
1:02:37
and what that means to you. What... Your experience with
1:02:41
that is whatever shows up when we think about wholeness.
1:02:45
Speaker 2: Well, what comes to mind when you say that is
1:02:49
kindness and seeing that through line of kindness in every
1:02:55
way to yourself, to others, recognizing spirit in yourself and
1:02:59
others in the environment around you. Like we talked about
1:03:03
everything is energy. And I believe that the highest frequency,
1:03:07
that energy is, the source energy is spirit. So realizing
1:03:11
that piece of that is in everything around us, in
1:03:14
you and in me, and then allowing that to reflect
1:03:18
in the kindness we show, even if we don't understand,
1:03:22
that to me feels like getting to be part of
1:03:25
that wholeness and that energy, that feel-good feeling that you
1:03:30
can't see, but that reminds you that we're all connected.
1:03:37
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1:03:40
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