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a courtesy and wind. Welcome back to a Drinking with Dog. Thank you
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so much for listening today. That is obviously Toby Keith, Rest in peace.
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He passed away today of belief stomach cancer. I can't imagine that's a
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good way to go. But we have a great show today. We have
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Marie Chutch in here. How are you doing today. I'm sorry about that
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little faux pa. We had to re record because you know, all my
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equipment sucks, so let me make sure everything's up and running before we get
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going here. It looks good on this end. So we met back in
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uh, back in December at the Stonebridge what we call it Holiday Holiday Market.
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Yeah, holiday market or something. Market raised a lot of money for
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a good cause and you were part of it and your business was down there.
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Sunshine, Sunshine Twister, Sunshine Ceramics Studio. Yes dot com, Yes,
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yes, I tell you, like I have a website. It's awful
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like I don't know how to use it. Your website is very I was
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like navigating around and the other day, yeah, many hours. Yeah yeah.
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I had a kid from Stonebers that helped me. And uh now he's
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at school and he's like, fuck you website today for me? I know,
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like I like seven episodes behind from Uh, well, the episodes go
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on, but the pictures don't have to manually do that, like through Instagram
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or something. I don't know what the so. So you are located downtown
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on the twenty two Broad Street, which is if anyone knows Milford, like
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lifelong Milford persons one to Sugarshack, Yes, what a great story that was,
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and you have the opportunity obviously to move into there. And how's it
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going so far? And what's your inspiration behind all the ceramics stuff? And
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I hate to have your rehash the story. No, no, I don't
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care. You know what the first cut was. Probably it's good. It's
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going well so far. Being a business owner is all consuming, but it's
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going well. And I'm just glad that I made the jump from my last
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career as a teacher, which you know, hats off to all the teachers.
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It is not easy, So I'm feeling a lot less stressed in my
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current role. Do you find it harder to teach second graders or adults in
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ceramics? There's a lot of parallels. Surprisingly, there's a lot of parallels.
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It's easier to manage because six people at a time versus twenty three eight
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year olds is just more manageable. So did you get out of teaching because
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of the ceramics or did you get of teaching because of like COVID and how
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the schools were you just over? What was your decision to actually just walk
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away from teaching and then really focus full time on ceramics or your studio and
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everything that goes along with it. I started teaching during COVID and that was
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interesting actually, So I was going into my third year teaching when I decided
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to leave, so very early on in my career. I didn't want to
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get trapped, you know, fifteen years in with a pension and have to
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make the decision at that point. But I had been thinking about opening up
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some type of like arts collective or an arts co op. And then I
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was kind of telling you a little bit, but for just about how I
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shelfed that idea and was just continuing on with teaching and then but it was
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always kind of in the back of my mind as something that I really like
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a dream, you know, like a bucket list item. And then in
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October twenty twenty two, my boyfriend passed away early, you know, he
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was forty, and that really gave me a perspective shift. And just teaching
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being hard enough on its own, you know, trying to be in the
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classroom while grieving was like an entirely different experience. And I knew that no
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matter what. And that happened in October, so it was like the beginning.
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Yeah, and these kids were tough because there it was COVID, you
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know, and it was really second grade was really hard to hit with that.
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I knew that, no matter what, I was going to need a
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break from teaching regardless after that year was over. So I don't know,
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I think just dealing with that loss gave me that, you know, I
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had like this existential crisis about what I was doing with my life, and
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I decided to just take the plunge and leave teaching and try and open up
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my own business. I really feel strongly that I guess about I really feel
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strongly in my mission with with the studio, and I stand behind it,
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and I wanted to at least really give it a fair shot, you know.
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I mean you're still teaching, well, I'm I'm definitely still teaching,
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yes, And you're teaching on your own. Yes, Yes, you're not
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working for the state or the yes or the parents right right, you're working
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with the parents now, yes, exactly. So. Yeah, I walked
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into your shop, you know, right before Christmas, and hold online,
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I'm going to show this bull. This is so there we go. Look
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at that thing. It's a nice table bowl. Put whatever you want in
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there, but it's Yeah, the designs are fantastic and thank you. I
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saw it at the Stonebridge event we had and I'm like, uh, yeah,
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that's beautiful. You know, like how much? And you told me
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and I said, all right, I'll see it. This is what's on
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me right now. But I'll see it. You better hope I still want
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to sell it, yeah, I know. And I walked in. It's
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the first thing I saw. I actually saw it through the window and I
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walked I'm like, all right, good, she still has it. She
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still has it. Uh, But we'll get this in a little bit like,
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how did you create the designs and the colors and all that stuff.
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Obviously you've been artistic and you know, into that stuff your whole life.
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I'm assuming I kind of read your bio or your article on connect the Post
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from a couple of years ago. Uh, you like all sorts of stuff.
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Yeah, you draw and draw, p cruche, bake, Yeah,
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I mean whatever, writing, What do you bake? What do I bake?
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What's your favorite thing to bake? Oh? Man, I know we
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didn't discuss this free show. I love I don't know if that's a curve
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ball. I love pie, like a huge pie fan. I like app.
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I mean everyone likes Apple. I don't like Apple. You know what
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I really like? And it's underrated. Blueberry, Yes, thank you,
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we're the good blueberry. Yes, agree, strawberry r as well. Yeah
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that's yeah, because everyone hears the rhubarb and they get turned off. Just
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call strawberry pie. I mean sure you need to dumb it down. Yeah,
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absolutely, yeah, I had I hadn't had blueberry pie in like the
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longest time, and I think last actually was probably a little before this holiday,
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and I was like, whoa little whipped cream on it? Oh?
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Yeah, it's perfect. It's perfect, but pies in general not a okay,
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not for everybody. Like I like apple like a crumble, like a
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standard apple pie, I feel it just breaks apart and it's just a big
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mess. Yeah, they're a little overwhelming at this point. Like I serve
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them on things like I worrek Thanksgiving, Well you have to, and it's
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just like it's by the end of the day, it's just like this mess
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and you gotta like take a spatula, put it on a plate and it's
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all broken up, and people look at you and they're like, what the
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fuck is this, and like it doesn't matter, it's just gonna taste app
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So you're into all this stuff. And actually I was going through the history
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of ceramics because I don't think the last time I must have done ceramics was
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in grade school. That's what most people say, and I actually have some.
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My mother keeps everything. Of course. Actually if you look over in
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that see that, it's like a baseball. Oh my god, did you
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make that? I did not. My girlfriend's son made that and he made
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it from me. I think it was like three or four years ago,
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and he's like, I made you a baseball and I'm looking at like,
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oh yeah, I know, it's like right up your alley. And then
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it brought me back to when I was in like fourth grade, fifth grade
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and I have all this and my mom saves everything, and especially around Christmas
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time, like bring all the ship I made out, just like, I
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don't remember how the fuck I made it. I love it. I love
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it. That's how long ago it was. I tell everybody that the best
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thing about ceramics is that it either lasts forever or it breaks on your kitchen
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floor. There's one two that that. But everybody loves you know how careful
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I was with this fucking box. I'm like the whole time, like leaving
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your store, like you put in a little box for me and yeah,
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and from behind, I'm like, oh my god. I got to my
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car and I'm like, oh ship, and I was just trying to key
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in and and get it in there. You did well. I know,
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I got a home and get it home again. It wasn't icy out,
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it wasn't snowing yet or any Yeah, it was. It was an easy,
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easy thing. So if someone walks into your studio or goes to your
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website, like what are what are you? What's your calling card? Like?
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What are you? Like? Like I saw when I went in there,
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there was actually Vanessa Demetrio was there doing her own things. Shout out
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to Vanessa, and of course she's making like I don't know if she's making
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astrays that basically said fuck you on them like that was like totally Vanessa'm like,
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yeah, she was like writing squear words in a ceramics and I'm like,
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oh, that's you. But then I saw the people there and I
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saw I saw like a family walking in with a couple of daughters. So
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there's a lot of action going on. So I feel like you fill it
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up your time there. Yeah, for sure. I mean you said,
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what's my calling card? Really? So I guess my my philosophy with that
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is like what do you want to do? You know, what are you
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trying to accomplish? What's your goal? What do you want to experience?
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Yes, it did, I got a TV in the shops that we just
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play that all day. But I want to help facilitate whatever people want to
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experience, you know, So I have a variety of things that we can
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do in there if you want to do something that I don't have currently,
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I'll do my best to get it if what I'm offering doesn't, you know,
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I just I want to facilitate everything for everybody, and I would eventually
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like to expand this far beyond just ceramics. But I know that pottery can
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be a really difficult art form to get involved with because it's so the equipment's
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so expensive, like you know, buying a kiln. You can't just not
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everybody can just have a kiln at their house. Like I have a wheel
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at my house and I didn't have a kilnt, so it was pointless,
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you know. So I wanted to just make it. Except they're killing at
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your studio. I have two of them. Yeah, so how does that
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work there? Are they invented? They're vented? Yeah? Are they?
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Okay? Yeah? Because I didn't know that wasn't that was a fire Marshal
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approved everything you know on the old chief. You'll pass it over with you.
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I mean, like you know, like I I was thinking like restaurant
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mode, like you have a hood system and all that it is vented.
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Yeah, yeah, okay, cool. So so like I would come in
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and I would make something and we just like put it on like a little
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pizza peel and slide it into the kill. How does it work? It's
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not that theatrical, you know. I just kind of like bend over and
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put it in the kiln, then shut it. How big is the kiln?
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They're pretty big? Yeah, yeah, one of them. I have
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two of them. One is bigger than the other. How long would like
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this bowl take to in the kil So typically the process is so this is
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what a lot of people don't understand. They're like, why is your pottery
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so expensive? And I'm like, let me outline it for you. It's
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called custom first of all. Well, first of all, it's that,
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but it's also like a really lengthy process. So throwing something on the wheel
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is like the first ten percent of the process, right, So we throw
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that on the wheel, it has to dry about halfway through, and then
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I trim it so like putting that little foot on the bottom to make it
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look nice, and then you let it dry the rest of the way,
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and then it goes through its first firing, which is the bisk firing,
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and that takes about sixteen hours of active firing time, and then it takes
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probably another new party pay for that, don't you do? Oh my gosh,
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you, I doesn't love me that much. And then it naturally cools
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down, which takes like another thirty six hours, and then we glaze it,
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and then it goes through a glaze fire which takes another ten ish hours
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and then has to naturally cool down from that, you know, So you're
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on like three days almost right, Well, but the drying time from between
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when you initially throw it to be able to even put it in the kiln
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the first time is usually a couple of weeks, depending on the size of
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the piece. So it's a lengthy, time consuming process. And people don't
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understand that. They think, oh, I just made this, I'll come
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back tomorrow and pick it up, and it's like, no, I'll see
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you. Like well, because they shop at like fucking peer one, right,
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you know, and they're mass produced there and they're like, oh,
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this is a nice Bolts twelve dollars, yeah, right, you know,
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which is not it's not reality if you're yeah, making handmaids, right,
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yeah, So how do the colors come involved? So that is the glazing
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process. Now, glazing is basically just like a liquid. It's kind of
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like paint. I guess it's all chemistry, but you put it on in
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it essentially melts, and that's why I'm going to sound very uninformed to people
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who know what they're talking about. But you put it on and it essentially
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melts into like a glass in the kiln. So right now I use all
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commercially made glazes, so they're just ready to go. But eventually I'd like
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to expand and start making my own glazes, so getting all the chemicals,
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mixing the colors, making them custom, which would be so fun. Yeah,
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sounds like he's like doing something out here with ceramica. He might be
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making I don't know. Anyway, Yeah, it's the problem with this,
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you know. I come to the studio like at night. Yeah yeah,
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I agree. Yeah, not that I'm recording. I just watching TV and
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having a viva or something. But yeah, so like I look at this
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and like show the bottom of that again, because like that to me is
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like super professional, like just something you almost see it peer one, Like
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there's really not any blemishes in it, you know. Yeah, I mean
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I try to do the best I can with everything. I want it to
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be as pristine as possible. But a common complaint that I get in in
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the studio from students or from whoever that's you know, in their They're like,
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oh, it's so wonky, and I'm like, it's handmade. You
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know, we love wonky. If we don't want wonky, we can go
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to home goods Like it's I want it to be handmade. So how much
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material is in this? So that bowl was probably about six pounds of clay
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or no, no, probably maybe five, and then I used five or
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six different glazes on that to achieve that effect. So there's a decent amount
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of materials there. That's so cool and glazing. Come into the store and
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just be like, you just show me from start to finish out of me
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or I mean, obviously you're so skilled at it, like you know what
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you're doing. How would mine look? So you know how Vanessa's looked.
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Yes, there's tiny. That's how most pots start, like she's just most
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of my beginners. We use one pound to get started. Yeah, and
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they're tiny. It's hard. People are surprised by how hard it is.
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They get on the wheel and they're like, oh, I've been watching Instagram
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video, so I'm basically a professional at this, and then they're like,
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holy shit, this is really way more difficult than I realized it would be.
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It takes a lot of patience and perseverance, you know, for most
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people. Some people get on the wheel. Like I had a seven year
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old I was doing a lesson with the other day and she's like some type
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of ceramics savant. Yes, But most people there's a very steep learning curve.
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I don't. I mean, it probably take me a year to even
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try to. You never know until you try, true, you know,
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I'll have to try it one time. It's fun, It's a lot of
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fun. Now you are you so good? Now you're just I mean,
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I don't want to say that. I don't say is that I see the
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progress in my work from when I first opened to now. I'm blessed with
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unlimited wheel time. And it's also what I do for my job, so
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I have to be producing to stock the storefront to sell stuff, you know,
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So are you are you? Like you're getting a lot of foot traffic
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by like like people come in, Oh yeah, Well, so retail has
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been slow right now, Like it was crazy during Christmas right and the holidays,
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but it's slowed down significantly. It's my first year still, so I'm
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learning the trends, the summer was crazy busy, especially like with Paint your
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own. People were coming in all the time to paint, especially little kids
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and schools out and hit a little bit of a lull during this like two
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and a half months stretch. Yeah, once we hit Saint Patti's Day,
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boom, that's like when I kind of the energy picks up, picks up.
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Yeah, just the energy in town. I mean all my classes are
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full and stuff like that, workshops and all of those things are filling up,
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but there's not as much foot traffic right now. Yeah, and then
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like do you participate in the stuff on the green or you just open shop
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and let let them come to see. Yeah, I think that's probably my
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best bet, you know. And then I have to transport everything, and
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it's just like, eh, lazy, I feel like, you know,
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how messy is it? Oh it's so messy. It's so good. It's
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so Do you have a shower on property? I don't mean I do,
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but it's extra if you want to use that. So most really don't know.
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I just I have become accustom to, like you're seeing me first thing
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in the morning. If you come see me in a couple of hours,
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they'll be covered every Yeah, like so what what is So you visit the
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website, it seems to me like it's kind of filling up, Like it's
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yeah, it is. If you want to get something, you're probably you
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know, waiting a little while to the classes fill up, like within an
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hour or two when I put them online. That's I think. That's another
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great thing about Milford, Like there's so many unique stores in this town that
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even I like, just by doing this podcast, I find like, especially
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in the downtown area. You know, there's like the place that does the
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board games, Hawkwoo. Yes, yes, you know. I don't know
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those guys yet, but I'd love to have them on the show. Well
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they close, Actually they own no So that's Ryan. He owns Cafe Atlantique.
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Oh yeah, they owned Hawkwood. Oh yeah, so that's no longer
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there no no, which sucks because I love that place. We need stuff
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like that, we do. You know, people just want to get out.
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I didn't realize they close. Yeah yeah, I'm too focused on like
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walking by going to Colony. I guess, well, the ceramics catch your
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eye, right, you don't see anything else? Well you your neighbor's one
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of my good friends Steph Oh, I love her and this is her necklace
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and her earrings. You know, if Steph is listening, I've asked around
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the show about twenty five thousand times and she keeps saying yes. But you
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know, she's just a busy girl. She is. She is. I
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no, no, so us. So what's your history of ceramics? Because
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I did a quick Google search. It's all over the map, but I
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think China might be where it came. What do you got. I've been
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learning about the history of ceramics. Within the last month. I've really started
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kind of doing a deep dive into you know, the art form is beautiful,
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but into the tradition because it's it's beyond an art form, it's a
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tradition. And I don't know specifics about dates, locations, regions, things
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like that. I'm still learning. But what I have fallen in love was
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lately are like the ancient kind of classic forms, ancient pottery from Greece and
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from Egypt and all of those kind of classic beautiful forms like amphora. I've
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been making a series of ampora at the shop just as kind of like a
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passion project is that it's a large vessel that they typically put like wine or
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other liquids and things like that in to use for shipment. So learning about
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the history of ceramics and pottery, what really blew my mind was how much
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it helped to grow civilization because before that, before the advent of like pottery
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and using it as packaging and using it as cookware, we didn't really cook
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food as much, and we couldn't really transport things as well, and so
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it really really helped to like support and sustain cultures across millennia. And it
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blows my mind. And I find that so fascinating and I find it so
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humbling to be a part of that continuum, you know, and just kind
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of bring that to Milford. I love that. I love that that tradition
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still carries on. Yeah, I mean, like you if you look back
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at history, like you know, that was the first transportation of you know,
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water grains, whatever, you know, all that stuff. Now,
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I got a data back to eighteen thousand BC in Jiangxi, China. I
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mean I don't know, but I mean that's just Wikipedia. I have no
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idea. And then I googled a couple other things and it was like twenty
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eight thousand BC. Yeah, I've gotten conflicting reports as well. I would
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say around twenty thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's settle let's say
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twenty pc. Yeah, you know, I just thought nothing. My mind
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was a different twenty BC. Sure, we'll land on that. So there's
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like differences in like porcelain, it's all about how you heat it or how
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long you to a point. I mean, there's not a glazing right,
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No, there's so many different clay bodies that you can work with. And
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I'm not gonna lie. I'm very so my ceramics experience that I had,
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it was pretty much the same con each time. No, I have a
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bunch of different ones in the studio. But you know, my formal training
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that I had, I took two semesters of ceramics at Southern as part of
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my undergrad I have a minor in studio art. They don't teach you.
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You stuck with your degree on like myself. I mean, I guess I
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went for teaching, So they don't teach you about like how to use a
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kiln, about different clay bodies, about the chemistry of glazing. They don't
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teach you any of that. I have a friend who went who majored in
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ceramics, and they still didn't teach any of that. So doing pottery and
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learning pottery and taking classes on that is very much just like practice the art.
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So when I opened the studio, I had never run a kiln before.
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I had never I don't know about different clay bodies. So I'm very
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much in that learning phase right now myself. So you don't have like a
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mentor or have you been to other like you know, pottery or yeah,
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sure, sure, yes, yeah. And I have to say that the
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ceramics community locally has been so generous with their information. I've had a lot
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of other studio owners that have spent like a really long time on the phone
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with me, just talking with me about class structure and and all these things.
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And my pottery professor shout to Greg Koshine. He probably wants to block
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my phone number because I keep asking him questions and everybody's been so supportive.
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So yeah, I definitely have all sorts of mentors and people guiding me.
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That's awesome. That's how he is kind of you know, like everyone always
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asks me when I started this, you know what podcasts you listen to?
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What podcasts do you listen to? None? Well, no back in the
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day. None, Okay, like I just did. I just didn't.
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You know, I'm a music guy. If I'm in my car listening,
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but you know this the standards Rogan and all that stuff like whatever, Like
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I'll catch him here and there. But I like spitting chick lits, which
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is a hockey one. It's a bar stool, not the podcast. The
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term think about how yeah yeah, uh, you know, And I kind
24:23
of discovered some here and there. I'm not really a like cabitual with any
24:29
certain one, but I'll see stuff on like Twitter or Instagram and I'm like,
24:33
god, I kind of want to hear what they're talking about there,
24:36
and I'll just put it on. There's some great conspiracy Joe. Yeah,
24:38
like Joe Rogan will go on for like four hours. You can't. Can't
24:41
do that. Yeah, you know, I'm like, I drove to Florida
24:44
and I'm still like, now it's the same episode. Yeah, there's something
24:48
I listened to that are like that too. Yeah yeah, yeah, anything
24:51
conspiracy wise, I'm down. I almost feel in today's world, you should
24:56
air on the side of conspiracy. Yeah, it just seems like they're all
25:00
turning out to be that way. One of them. You know, I've
25:07
lost people to COVID, so I mean, I know it was real,
25:10
but it was just overblown. I don't know. That's another It's hard when
25:15
there's so much information. You must have a lot of people that still come
25:19
in there wearing masks. I don't know, really don't. I love the
25:22
clay community the right listen. I mean I should be wearing a mask because
25:26
the clay dust is like sucking lungs. Yeah, no, there's it's which
25:32
is it's refreshing to feel like normalcy is back to a point. Yeah,
25:37
I was. You know what's funny is you ever watched Bar Rescue? Oh
25:41
my god, yes, yes, he is like not fucking around. So
25:45
like, there was an episode on the other night and uh, it was
25:48
like a rerun and you know it's not from like, you know, twenty
25:52
in a row some Yeah. So I was flipping by and it was some
25:55
bar in Vegas and he's trying to reopen, like it was called Capo and
25:57
it was it was an old ion restaurant on Vegas, like speakeasy style and
26:03
the owner just like went through lung cancer, throat cancer and all sorts of
26:07
stuff having a rough time and they're going through COVID and now I think they're
26:11
about a year past COVID, the jabs are coming out, and this is
26:15
like, in a nutshell, how ridiculous COVID was in the restaurant world.
26:22
Me going through a firsthand is like Taffer is the only one without a mask
26:26
on. Everyone else is sitting down in the beginning of the show with masks
26:30
on, and then as the show goes along, now they're not wearing a
26:33
mask, and then they're wearing a mask, and then they're not wearing mask,
26:36
and it just reminded me of like how stupid and like just it was
26:41
during that time when like okay, you have to wear your mask at the
26:44
door all the way to your seat, COVID free zone and the table here,
26:49
you know, and it's just like how idiotic these rules were and how
26:55
it just destroyed so many lives that or businesses just saying had the lives attached
27:00
to them. And I don't know, it's just like watching this episode,
27:03
I was like, this is how Dune this was right looking back and thank
27:07
god it's back there in the past because that was a tough time to get
27:11
through. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you were going through teaching.
27:15
I was it was so get this. The months that we took our masks
27:19
off, which was, let's say, I think it was March twenty one,
27:23
we finally got them like we were allowed to take twenty one. Yes,
27:27
yes, right, we finally they were like, okay, you can
27:30
take your masks offs. And in school, I was like, WHOA free
27:33
my face. I got COVID immediately. I got COVID that day, I
27:38
swear, and I was out for two weeks from school the day I went
27:42
back. That night, I went home and had the stomach bug and then
27:48
I was out for another couple of days with that, and then I went
27:51
back and I had an upper respiratory infection. I was sick for all of
27:53
March. So the masks were doing something because I had zero immunity when I
27:59
took mine off. But yeah, it was just funny. I got COVID
28:00
like that second I took it off, Like what so all right, so
28:04
COVID hit in March the year before, well it didn't you know, yeah?
28:07
Yeah, I shut down. Yeah, so I was the kid there.
28:11
Now they went back that fall, right, yes, in twenty one,
28:14
yes, but they all had the mask out. Yeah. So then
28:17
coming back around. I'm trying. I'm just trying to like timeline it.
28:19
They went back fall of twenty and then so the March of twenty one,
28:23
so they wore masks all the way to March of March twenty first, and
28:26
then it became optional. Right. But Braden, my girlfriend's son, I
28:32
remember he was going to be He's in eighth grade now seven sixth so he's
28:37
going into sixth grade, and they had this stupid you know by you know
28:45
you you ran, you played basketball with a kid that got COVID you were,
28:51
you know, And so he's going back to school sixth grade, brand
28:53
new school. He's going into East Shore, Okay, and he had to
28:57
miss like the first two weeks. He didn't have it. He tested fucking
29:02
every day and they wouldn't let him back. It's like, what the fuck
29:04
are we doing? Nobody knew what he's trying to Like the one they're integrating
29:10
into a new school. I mean, granted, the same classmates mostly,
29:11
but now he's meeting new ones from the other you know, the other kindergart
29:15
or you know, elementary school, and it's just like we're getting letters from
29:19
the you know, from what do you call it? Superintendent and all this
29:25
stuff and like I'm reading the letter, it doesn't make sense. Does this
29:27
makes sense? Nobody knew what to do right? And do you think this
29:33
time around, like like, I mean, would it surprised me this year
29:36
if there's something that comes along that makes people vote from home again? No?
29:41
But would people want rebel or would people just be like, Okay,
29:45
let's handle it the right way this time. I think it'd be a lot
29:48
of both. I think it would depend on what we're dealing with. Well,
29:52
true, yeah, I think zombie apocalypse. Yeah, I don't know.
29:56
I mean it was it was so much of it I think was opt
30:00
and just no, we didn't know what we were doing, so just trying
30:03
to make people feel better, you know, I don't know. I'm glad,
30:07
glad that's not it was a nightmare. But you still, you know,
30:11
people are still wearing masks and yeah, everywhere everywhere you go. Yeah,
30:15
which you know what if you're feeling sick and you're wearing a mask,
30:18
thank you, I guess you know. Thanks. I don't know whatever you
30:22
want to do at this point. I wore it was so funny. It's
30:25
that Stonebridge. I wore the little like the little nylon. Yeah you know
30:29
you pull up now. Yeah, my buddy wore the shield. Oh my
30:33
god, the shield they gave us those pretty much. Yeah. Yeah,
30:37
so like he wore the shield, but it was like this, yeah,
30:38
you know, I was like almost like halfway up right, and he'd like,
30:41
I remember he went to one table. This is like the first summer
30:44
where everything was outside, no even indoor dining. Yet we were very fortunate
30:47
Stormbridge because we have all that space. Yes, yeah, we did well.
30:51
And somebody's like, sir, if you don't put a mask on,
30:55
I can't have you wait on me. I was like, okay, bye
30:57
bye. Yeah, I got other tables that wait on have fun. You
31:02
know. Like that's how well you know how it is in the public department,
31:06
how people like you're sure you dealt with angry parents all during that time
31:10
and questioning everything, and yeah, I mean tensions are high. I just
31:14
try to have compassion for how much anxiety people are feeling, you know,
31:18
and know that we all again, we all just like want that common goal.
31:21
We want the same thing. It's just how we are getting there is
31:23
so different. So I try to just keep that in mind or else I'll
31:26
lose my fucking mind. And plus we were going you know the sort the
31:30
you know, it was the last year of Trump and we're going through succession
31:34
to Biden, and it was just it was just so politically motivated and biased,
31:38
and I think that divided a lot of people. You know, I
31:44
don't I don't know if Trump had one would have changed anything. He probably
31:48
would have been parading around the vaccine as well, because you know, it
31:52
did get made on his watch. But obviously how did that go. I'm
31:56
not vaccinated. I never got it. My brother almost died getting it,
32:00
so I was just like he went in a phylactic shock. I was scheduled,
32:05
Oh my god, I'm good, Like, we'll go to the hospital.
32:07
I'm like my boyfriend at the time, his mom was a doctor,
32:13
and she was like, yeah, just get it. And I was like,
32:14
I don't want it, but she was like it's fine, so kind
32:17
of talked me into it. And I was so scared of having an allergic
32:21
reaction that I actually had to go into like the little room for a while
32:23
and they had to talk me down because I was I was panicking. Yeah,
32:25
I love anxiety. I'm like, I'm like, dude, if I
32:29
took it like to this day, I'd still be like, there's something going
32:31
to happen, I know. I mean we're alike in that regard. I
32:36
think, yeah, like, well, we'll just see what happens in a
32:38
year from now and then we'll revisit it. But it is what it is
32:42
at this point, you know, now, like everything that happens, it's
32:45
like, oh, that must because of it, you know, Like you
32:47
know, like some kid dies in the soccer field, that's the jab,
32:52
Well it's probably happened before, we just wasn't really reported. Now now we're
32:54
now we're highlighting everything that well, you know, I'm actually on the other
32:58
side of the fence with this stuff, like this happens. Like I went
33:00
to high school in nineteen ninety two where we had a kid that had he
33:05
didn't die, but you know, he you know, had an episode on
33:07
the field. That's just I mean, not everyone's tickers the same, you
33:10
know, No, But when everything's so heightened and everybody's awareness is so heightened,
33:15
it's like, yeah, you're gonna confirmation bias is a thing, you
33:19
know. So that's what I was talking about, Like that thing that's been
33:22
happening for centuries but now it's working too. Yeah, there's like a Twitter
33:24
site called Died Suddenly, and they literally just like pick up every story from
33:29
across the globe that someone under the age of twenty five died playing sports and
33:31
saying it was yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gotta do a jet I
33:36
mean, I don't know, maybe you know what, but that's such a
33:38
good thing to just I don't know, like like I don't know, maybe
33:45
bring more awareness to it. Yeah, you know, like why why are
33:47
these kids dying anyway? Yeah? Is there something we could look at?
33:52
Is there something we're missing in their development up to eighteen twenty years old with
33:54
their heart that we missed outside of the jat like like like maybe like you
34:00
know, these people have underlying conditions that maybe we could like do an autopsy
34:04
on and find out. Yeah, I don't know, something's happening. Yeah,
34:07
you know, I'm not doctor, but like, if there's some stupid
34:09
little thing we could notice at birth and correct it early. You know,
34:15
Lebron's Lebron James's kid had a heart attack. He was nineteen. He's alive,
34:19
but he's playing basketball again. But yeah, that's do you know Lebron
34:22
James is Yeah, Okay, I'm I'm just play basically what he does.
34:29
I don't know anything about sports, but I know that nineteen is way too
34:30
young for a heart attack. That I know. Yeah, yeah, that's
34:34
abnormal. Yes, that is not good. So I was asking you,
34:38
you know what what you uh? What you've delved outside of ceramics and apparently
34:43
Netflix? I mean, no, that makes it sound so you know what's
34:47
alone? A lot of people do that I do occasionally. What I've been
34:50
doing lately is I realized that I've been on a pottery wheel for the last
34:54
eight months and my brain is melting, like the logical analytical side. So
35:00
what I've been delving into are a lot of logic puzzles. And I actually
35:02
bought an algebra two book to start doing math again because I feel like my
35:07
brain is melting. I really do. So that's what I've been delving into
35:10
lately. Now I'm like addicted to these logic puzzles. If you can somehow
35:15
correlate algebra two m to ceramics, I have been actually with these. With
35:22
the amphora that I've been trying to create, I've been trying to figure out
35:25
how to the patterns the Greek like the ancient Greek patterns that they do.
35:32
I've been trying to figure out some type of when you're putting it on a
35:37
round surface, it's a lot different than putting it just on a flat surface.
35:42
So I've been trying to figure out, using mathematics a little bit,
35:45
how to get that perfect placement. So and some little you can find parallels.
35:51
For sure, Art and math are always there's always parallels always, well
35:55
yeah, I mean especially like drawn and all that. Yeah, well,
36:00
just you know, greeting it out, yes, yeah, all that stuff.
36:05
Yeah, but I think basic math can teach you that too. Yeah,
36:07
that's basic. Yeah, X two plus y equals z four. That's
36:13
it, you got it. I remember taking algebra in like high school,
36:16
when I was just like it wasn't hard for me, but I was just
36:20
like, I still I still couldn't like commute. How it went to real
36:23
life, real life? Yeah, I get the most part. I mean,
36:25
obviously if we went on to mathematics, it all works, you know
36:29
what, lifestyle, But like, you know what got me about that though,
36:31
is like, don't make me remember the formulas, because even if I
36:35
am going to go on to do a career in math, there's never gonna
36:37
be a scenario where I can't just google a formula if I need it.
36:40
You know, the teachers would always be like, you have to memorize them.
36:43
I hate that. That's like, that's what I feel with school now,
36:46
Like the kids got to go twelve years, like like they one,
36:52
they're all fucking it all now. The kids they go on TikTok and they
36:54
think they don't how to change a fucking oil and I know, you know,
36:58
it's just like it's ruined. I remember I said this back in the
37:02
day when the iPhones came out and Facebook and all, like this is going
37:05
to ruin I'm so glad I grew up before having my cell phone. And
37:12
it hasn't done many favors. No, yeah, you know, it causes
37:16
temptation, It causes a lot of stuff, anxiety, anxiety, depression,
37:22
you know. Great, I've never yeah, and that's about it. Like
37:27
I've contemplated leading Facebook and just staying on Instagram and maybe trying to expand my
37:31
Twitter. But Twitter's weird. It's all like celebs and sports people. It
37:37
feels like opinions, and I feel like it's like a good news source,
37:40
but at the same time, it's like you have to read it and click
37:44
on it and then click on something else again to make sure it's real.
37:45
Well sure, you know, yeah, so does that make it a good
37:50
news source then if you have to read like you know, I follow but
37:53
died suddenly and flat earther flat Earth? Alright? Alright, so this this
38:00
is something I wanted to talk about. Okay. So there's this guy's what
38:04
are called the flat Earther okay, and he always posts this stuff like old
38:07
ancient maps, you know, pictures from a plane really high up and you
38:13
don't see a you know, horizon, you don't see the curve and the
38:16
earth all sorts of like like he gets really deep into this ship. But
38:22
what he doesn't do is explain why this theory exists and what the So that's
38:27
credible then, but like what what at least I haven't seen it, Like
38:30
what the what's the endgame with? Like why would they? Why would they
38:36
do that? Like why? Like everything? I get it, like the
38:38
media will fuck with you all day long, but like why would it be
38:43
flat? And they wouldn't tell us? Right, Well, because it's all
38:45
a projection and we live in a simulation obviously, Okay, Okay, I
38:50
don't think the Earth is flat for the rest Okay, yeah, but I
38:52
am fascinated genuinely by people who do. I think it's like, you know,
38:58
it's funny, like I remember, like when I was growing up in
39:00
high school or even maybe before that, like teachers are joke about the flat
39:04
Earth society and it was back then. Yeah, well it was like these
39:07
people thought was like the last ten years. No. No, there was
39:10
like these people that lived in Africa and they were flat earthers. They like
39:14
lived in a village and they all believed the Earth was flat and the ocean
39:16
just dropped chopped off like a waterflow, you know. And then like you
39:21
see pictures from Antarctica and like you ever seen what was that HBO show Game
39:27
of Thrones? No, okay, so I've only watched a few few seasons,
39:30
but there's like this thing where like this is a big, big,
39:34
great like ice wall, and that's kind of like and then you gotta get
39:37
over the wall. That's what Antarctica is. If the Earth was flat,
39:39
right, that's where and on the other side is a whole other world that
39:45
we don't know about, like the Truman Show kind of well, no,
39:49
well, yeah kind of, but that was just for one real right,
39:52
But I'm just saying as far as like there's an end point, Yeah,
39:54
yeah, there's something on the other side, right, not heavenly just like
39:58
another body. So like I, you know, follow and now he's also
40:02
very political and all this stuff, you know, far they go hand in
40:07
hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah they do. And I just don't understand,
40:09
like, Okay, so we've discover it's flat. Why they've been telling
40:13
us forever that it's round, Like I don't understand, like like the lack
40:16
of spiracy is like ohause they're covering this up ur right, Why but why
40:21
like if it's flat, Like, are you just gonna be like, Okay,
40:24
thanks, you told us it's flat. Now I'm on my merry way.
40:27
I'm gonna find out a conspiracy like would they? But I just feel
40:30
like if you have, if you I feel like, to believe that the
40:36
Earth is flat, you have to give zero credit to any science or physics
40:43
or all of these laws of nature gravity and like none of that can be
40:49
true, right, So you're not just trying to discredit the fact that the
40:52
Earth's around, You're trying to discredit all of our system all of the systems
40:54
that govern life, right, So I don't know that's that believes, like,
41:00
like we haven't talked about it in a couple of years. But I'm
41:01
just like I just laughed at him at first before I followed this guy.
41:06
But then I'm like, you know, like, is the sky just the
41:08
simulation? Well, yeah, it would have to be. And like isn't
41:13
that what they say the Flatters people, they say it's a projection, don't
41:15
they? Yes, but like it changes every day, right, well they
41:17
change the project is the sun? Like what keeps us warm? What makes
41:21
the weather? Is that all simulated? I mean, it would have to
41:25
be. I don't know. I don't know. Like they were like this
41:28
week, they're like, you know what, California hasn't had much in a
41:30
while, let's fucking soak him with rain. Hit the rain. But like
41:35
I want to be that guy. My ex girlfriends in Florida. That's part
41:39
what happened to me. I was down there fucking flat it out. My
41:43
exes are part of this ship. It's just like one of those like conspiracy
41:46
theories. I just can't get behind because I can get live behind. I
41:50
can get behind a lot of them, but this one just doesn't have like
41:53
an endgame for me. I'm like, all right, well all right,
41:57
so if it's flat, what we're just oh yeah, I don't know,
42:00
like even the universe itself when you think of the universe and like, like
42:04
I love like space and that kind of like that kind of science and like
42:08
I like watching those universe shows. Yes, yes, you know, and
42:12
Scott there's an apps of Scott Scott's Walk. So they used to do they
42:15
don't do it anymore. They used to have a daily picture from the Cosmo
42:20
and it was so cool. It's just like, you know, a cluster
42:22
of gases and clouds and planets and stars and every I used to using my
42:27
screen savings. Cool. That's what these reminded me of. Yeah, yeah,
42:31
that's pretty true. I gotta name this bowl you know what? Really
42:35
quick. As an aside, but I was I watched Gravity the other night.
42:39
Have you watched Gravity with Sandra Bullock and George Cleaney. I had an
42:45
hour and a half long panic attack. But what it got me into was
42:52
this wormhole of looking at astronaut photography. Okay, and apparently there's this website.
42:58
I think NASA might it out, but they have they have all of
43:06
this astronaut photography and it's like all categorized and it's just it was really incredible
43:10
to see the different photos from Earth and the different landscapes and like, I
43:15
don't know, it was really I went down this long worm hole about it,
43:17
so you might enjoy that. Mean, And I just want to say
43:21
that the Earth is round in every one of those photos. It is just
43:25
like all the stars, yes, because I think like a circle, Like
43:30
it's almost like the universal like form. It feels like we like a globe.
43:36
Yes, when we're in the universe. Yeah, like if the Earth
43:38
was flat, Like, why don't these dudes just start digging to get how
43:43
flat is? Like how deep is it? I know you not very deep.
43:47
I've not should I it's kind of hokey, but they like it.
43:54
The premise behind it was the core of the Earth starts stop spinning and all
44:00
this crazy shit started happening on Earth. Is it like hollow Earth? No?
44:04
No, no, no no no, It's just like a science fiction
44:06
movie. It's uh. I forget who was in it. But they had
44:09
the drill and they built this like spaceship with a big laser on it,
44:14
and they went into the Earth and they had to light off these nuclear bombs
44:15
to start the core spinning again. It's stupid, but I just feel like
44:20
lasers fix everything. If there's an issue, just put a laser, and
44:23
I feel like it will take care of it. I was gonna do it
44:25
to my eyes, but I can't sit there and have a laser in my
44:28
eye. Don't do it to your eyes. But like I'm saying, you
44:30
have like an asteroid laser. If the core stops spinning, laser. If
44:34
there's a volcano, probably a laser would fix it. I just feel like
44:37
that's the universal lasers. Yes, way to solve problems. Laser. Any
44:43
science movie Sharks with laser baby, Yes, exactly exactly where was that going
44:50
with that? I'm not sure. I don't know either. Oh so,
44:53
like, so are we just like a big pancake floating around like the galaxy?
44:57
I guess I love pancakes, So I'm down if that's. Yeah.
45:00
I just want to understand where are these flat huthers are thinking. I don't
45:02
think they know blot twist, Yeah, I don't think they know. Like,
45:07
could the moon landing be rigged? Sure? Whatever? It was the
45:09
fucking sixties. We've never been back? Is it Wendy, I don't know.
45:14
I don't know, TBD, I've never been Shadows are weird? Have
45:17
you ever seen that movie? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I mean you
45:22
know what at the end of the see we talked, talked before the Albanize
45:24
the merit about my bubble that I live. This is why i'd stay in
45:29
my bubble. Y is Taylor Swift in that bubble? We got to do
45:31
a Super Bowl minute. She's doing the kick off at the Super Bowl because
45:36
she plays for the NFL. Now that's what I know. Okay, so
45:40
that makes you a Swift Ye? No, okay, I could name probably
45:44
two songs. Oh good, all right, I don't I'm not asking you
45:47
name because you can probably say something I'm not gonna but they are. They're
45:52
all probably about breaking up with your boyfriend. Yeah mostly, yeah, so
45:58
i'd see all these people writing on Facebook. Now, so you must know
46:01
a little bit about the Taylor Swift is dating one of the Kansas City Chiefs,
46:05
Travis Kelce, dating some guy likes football? Yeah right, what plays
46:09
football? Okay for the team that's in the Super Bowl. Yes, okay,
46:13
I knew all of that. It's Chiefs against forty nine ers, that's
46:15
all you need to know. And Taylor Swift, wait, I said the
46:16
forty nine ers earlier, didn't I I said, I don't even know what
46:20
sports they play football? It is okay, we got it. This is
46:25
what's getting me. So Travis Kelsey's a big douchebag, always has been a
46:30
right way before he died, started dating Swift. Okay, So he has
46:35
his own podcast with his brother, and like six months ago whatever it was,
46:38
he was on his podcast. He's like, oh, if anyone can
46:40
get the Swift's number, like joking around. Well, however it turned out.
46:45
It turned out to them dating and her going to every game and the
46:49
cameras are always on her generated like three hundred extra million dollars for the NFL.
46:54
I heard. The viewership is way up right because they're getting a casual
46:57
They didn't get you, but the casual viewer. So everyone's right now.
47:05
It's a lot of my music friends stupid all right now, Like everyone like
47:08
all these like dudes are all pissed. Taylor Swifts one of the greatest ever
47:14
and it's good for music and seeing such a healthy relationships, good for people
47:17
and blah blah blahlah blah, and I'm just like I don't care about Taylor
47:22
Swift. No, like I mean, like she's fine, She's rubbed me
47:24
the wrong way. She's a billionaire, tour in the world, happy for
47:29
her fucking kelsey. I can't stand and he's the douche and like I almost
47:35
feel like they win the super Bowl, he's gonna get down on one knee
47:37
and propose. It's so arbitrary, fixed it so you just see it.
47:42
But like now everyone's just like going the other way, and it's like,
47:45
you know, I don't even care anymore. So why is he a He's
47:49
well, like you've never seen him, right, you don't even know who
47:52
he is. You know he's blonde, right, I think he's blonde.
47:54
I don't know, obviously, I'm just trying he has He's just a big
47:58
muscle dude, like a meeting, okay, And I guess atypical from what
48:06
Taylor probably dated in the past. I don't know her history, but there
48:12
is a little biased in me of why I don't like him because I'm a
48:15
Patriots fan. I know, you don't even know what any of this means.
48:16
No, I know the Patriots. Who's that guy? Tom Brady.
48:20
Yes, Tom Brady. You know who Rob Burnkowski? Is he that name?
48:23
Yeah, I have, I know, I don't know what he does.
48:28
But he's tired now they both are. Didn't the coach from the Patriots
48:31
just get fired or retire or something. He's going somewhere else. Not he's
48:36
going to the studio. Job the studio's Oh my god, if I get
48:39
Bill here right now, get out. He's just he's just a douche Wait,
48:46
not not Belichick. No, Belichick's well he could be douchey, but
48:51
no, he's He's a good dude. Who are we who's the douche?
48:52
Kelsey? Kelsey? Right, that's right. Okay, I'm going to take
48:55
this information out into the world. So, so now when you like,
48:59
like Sunday's was, oh my god, yeah, this is coming up quick.
49:01
That's today basically Tuesday. Yeah yeah, but yeah, wow, Okay,
49:08
you're open on Sundays, are you? I am? I don't yea
49:13
darky better bring these chicken wings. Yeah, I mean I'm there on Monday
49:15
though, So you want chicken wings? Yeah, turn your head America.
49:21
Papa doze popa do oh? I saw that? Wait no, stop,
49:24
that's passall I used to get his meal service. He just was listening to
49:30
that this morning. Yeah, like, oh ship, I used to get
49:31
his mis So he has a soft opening Thursday and then he's doing he'll be
49:36
open all weekend and Sunday he's doing wing specials. Okay on it. I
49:40
think nice eight cents. Yeah, because my buddy's doing ninety nine cent wings.
49:45
I just wanted to fucking trumple. I love that. I love that's
49:49
a business man right there. Yeah that's fantastic. So yeah, go check
49:52
out. Papa does a little side more. He was just not yea back
49:54
in the right for before I left. And you know how hard is opened
49:59
a business health departments. I can't imagine opening a food business, like no,
50:05
thank you. I went to culinary school. I wanted to open up
50:07
like who inspected your kilns and stuff? The fire marshal, right if they
50:10
were in there inspecting food stuff, so that'd be like I can imagine the
50:14
red tape is like crazy, throw a little like uh pizza in there every
50:17
once in a while in the calm. Yeah, I mean I wanted to
50:20
try baking cookies in there, like they'll cook and fucking throw How hot is
50:23
it? It gets up to like twenty six hundred degrees holy ship. Yeah,
50:28
so they're already done before you put them like ship. That's it.
50:32
That's too hot for pizza. That's too hot for pizza. The high as
50:38
you go on pizza stough, could you set one? Probably? Could you
50:43
do a Pizza Clay party one night where you do one kiln set to fucking
50:47
pizza? Yes? One set? I mean, let's do it. That's
50:51
what I'm going to be doing Sunday. All the cool people are going to
50:53
be at the shop, having just go to go to well, you can
50:57
go to Papa Dooz, but who does the in West even what's the pizza
51:02
place on main Street? They're not on Main Street? Yeah, no,
51:07
they're on Zoo Party Way. No, but it's like Union or something.
51:13
They're all the street because I used to really yeah, because I used to
51:15
live in the old school there and they were right next door. Yeah.
51:19
I don't know why, but they probably take the party. I've seen the
51:24
sign. Yeah, they make like those you know, the frozen ones.
51:29
You actually buy them at the do on a weekly basis. I should try
51:32
that in the kiln, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right,
51:36
I don't know, I didn't think about that. Don't tell the fire marks.
51:38
No, no, these are not food grade machines. Also we're kidding.
51:42
Yeah, we'll call it a clay pizza party. Yes, I love
51:47
it. Lines out the door. Actually, this weekend, I am having
51:51
two little mini ponies coming into the shop. Yeah, what day, Saturday?
51:55
So they were there, you know, lamp late stroll downtown. I
52:00
had them in for a lamplight s troll and it was epic. There was
52:02
like hundreds of people in the shop. It was I have a friend of
52:06
mine. I gotta tell her. She we drove out to Kentucky once.
52:09
It was like four of us going out to do a bourbon trail. Nice
52:14
and not not a fun ride, no, but well well we took the
52:19
northern route, like through Pennsylvania and then down and every time she saw a
52:23
minnie pony at a farm, she like freaked out. Like I'm like,
52:27
all right, I get it. I gotta tell her, I get it.
52:29
Saturday and Sunday, Saturday Saturday, Yeah, wow, Yeah, I'm
52:34
excited. So where they come from? There are Milford mini ponies. I
52:37
don't know, my friend. No, they're the therapy minise is what they're
52:43
called my friend I went to middle school with her daughter has the question mark.
52:47
I don't really know. All of a sudden, there was just ponies.
52:52
Yeah, they're so tiny. There's they fit in the back of their
52:53
SUV. That's how they get them around, not even in a cage,
52:57
not even a no, no, They're just in the back of like a
53:00
Ford Explorer. It's pretty epic. Wow. Yeah, it's really cute.
53:04
So that'll be fun. I'm exciting. I never know these things existed,
53:07
I think till I took that trip to Kentucky. Mini ponies. Yeah,
53:08
they're real, real I've seen I remember as a child, like growing up
53:14
and seeing them is what I mean. Yes, conspiracy conspiracy. I think
53:19
when we're little, like was it Fauci in a lab in like the seventies?
53:22
I would I could get behind that this horse is too big. But
53:25
I also just feel like when we're little, they probably look like regular size
53:29
horses. No, because they look like they I don't want to say midget,
53:35
but like they can we say that word anymore? I just did.
53:37
That's so I believe I'm fine, definitely, but like vertically challenged. Yes,
53:42
there we go. Yeah, like they look like a like a like
53:45
a vertically challenged horse. Yeah, like someone just took it. Ponies corners
53:49
because their heads are still big. You know, those torsos are big,
53:52
but they're just small. Yeah. They have like little, tiny, eat
53:53
bitty legs. Yeah, my dog was horrified. She wouldn't even look at
53:59
like if you're the pony. She wouldn't even look. She wouldn't even look
54:00
at the pony. We even turn her face that way. It was so
54:04
cute, so funny, fucking fauci fauci. Oh god, all right,
54:12
so I have to ask who you got one in the Super Bowl? Do
54:14
you remember who's playing me? Yes, the Kansas City Chiefs and the forty
54:17
nine ers from San Francisco. Wow, okay, I know I did.
54:23
No, I'm not as I'm not that story happen. I'm pretty stupid and
54:27
right now I was down I started last week. It's gonna have to be
54:29
the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs. Yeah, I mean, I don't really
54:31
give a fuck. Swifty or no, no, non Swifty. Listen,
54:36
I'm get it girl, right, No, I'm happy for you, but
54:40
I'm still on the Spice girls. So so in some news this is kind
54:46
of fucked up. So Patrick Mahomes. You know who he is right now?
54:51
He's the quarterback for the Chiefs. Okay, I know now, Yeah,
54:53
his father was an MLB player Major League Baseball. Yeah for what team?
54:59
The that's in another team. He was a picture just got his third
55:04
d u e oh fack books. Yeah, okay, he's like facing ten
55:07
years in prison, like right before his son has the big game. Maybe
55:10
take an uber. I don't know. Well that's that's that's like my biggest
55:14
thing. It's like one, he was an ex MLB player, So you
55:16
know, he's getting a good pension because he played for like eight years,
55:20
so there's a certain limit you got to play. Your son is basically has
55:24
half a billion dollar contract. Like don't you just say that? Like they
55:29
know he's an alcoholic, they know he drinks and drivers. Yeah he just
55:32
like just have him a personal limo this time of year, I mean,
55:37
right, do we still drink and drive? It's twenty twenty four, I
55:39
know, like are we still smoking cigarettes and drinking and driving? I thought
55:43
we just as a society like moved past these things. Well, drive south,
55:49
you'll still a lot of smoke. Remember the bubble that I was just
55:52
in Florida. Yeah, they still smoke, and they I quit smoking cigarettes,
55:55
do I assume everybody else did? No fake though, no never,
56:00
so's just nothing else in your long I don't do anything. I mean I
56:02
had a cigar playing golf like a month ago. Yeah, nothing in my
56:06
lungs. Yeah. The first bar I was at when I finally got to
56:10
Florida after the long drive. I frequent a lot. It's called Hurricanes.
56:15
And there's like this big bar outside of me and my buddy walk in just
56:19
it was late, kind of got there late Saturday night on that like January
56:22
eighth, and we're just whatever, lots of wings and notches or something.
56:27
There was this couple kind of four seats away, but it bar jetted out
56:30
a little bit. These fuck I mean chain smoking like they were lighting up
56:36
the next one cigarette. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I used to smoke.
56:39
I love it. Yeah, like two packs a day, load me
56:42
up. Were you were like a menthol or I would do menthol. You
56:45
remember camel crushes. You could like start with it non menthal, then crush
56:47
it and it would become menthal halfway through. Those were the best because they
56:51
gave you both you and venting all this ship to kill the world? Yep,
56:57
oh man, what else do I got? Oh, let's finish on
57:01
this twenty three in me? Oh yeah, so you have a little twenty
57:04
three in me story. I don't have a personal story, but I'll end
57:07
on my little story that I know. Okay, So I did twenty three
57:09
in me. I don't know, maybe like a year ago. And I
57:13
grew up my whole life thinking that I'm half Italian from my dad's side,
57:20
quarter Armenian, and quarter French. And I was very comfortable in this,
57:24
like I'm very proud to be all of those nationalities. I'm very proud.
57:30
So I did twenty three in me and come to find out I'm sixty one
57:35
percent Italian, which is now confusing because I don't know where the extra eleven
57:39
percent came from. This is your father's name, correct, that's my nose?
57:43
So that's my mom's name. Yes, yeah, I never met my
57:45
dad never didn't he's yeah nothing, So did you know his last name?
57:51
For sheetty? There's your Italian? Yeah? But like where the extra eleven
57:53
percent come from? If he's if there's none on my mom's side, I
57:58
should only be fifty max. I also don't know how. I don't know
58:00
how Danna works either. I also found out that I'm zero percent French,
58:06
which I don't see French yet, like a little upsetting because I love France
58:10
and I don't even have a French freckle now at this point, So that
58:14
it was sad. And I'm probably Turkish instead of Armenian. That wasn't definitive,
58:21
but they said probably more likely Turkish than Armenian. So Chechen is Armenian.
58:28
So so my great grandparents came over from Armenia during the genocide, I'm
58:35
pretty sure. And now plot twists were actually Turkish. So I don't know
58:38
how to feel. It's a conflict within. Do you feel like you have
58:43
to go visit Turkey now? I don't know what to do. Yeah,
58:45
I feel like I need to, like one half of me needs to apologize
58:49
to the other half of me, and I don't know. We're called existing
58:52
well, the Armenian side in the Turkish side right now. So that's good.
58:55
Yeah, I mean, as long as you get along within your own
58:59
within myself, I mean that's a work in progress, but today we're good.
59:04
I don't know if you want to go to Turkey right now. I
59:05
would like to go to see the pottery and eat the bakuma. Yeah so
59:09
that's cool. Yeah, Like, now you know you're they own your DNA
59:14
now right, Yeah, I'm cool with that. I decided like I had
59:16
to really say why they like, am I going to murder somebody? Am
59:22
I gonna? Yeah? Like if I couldn't answer firmly like no, I'm
59:27
never going to murder somebody, then I wouldn't have sent my DNA in,
59:30
you know, but I'm not going to ever kill anybody, So they can
59:32
have it. Well you say that, but you might go to Turkey and
59:37
you're like, that's different. That's what we're in Turkey. I don't think
59:39
they really give a shit what's happening over there. Frankly, Yeah, right,
59:43
yeah, so I feel com so in the States, I'm probably not
59:45
gonna kiel. I'm gonna keep it buttoned up. Yeah, I mean,
59:49
you know, I do have the kilns, but yeah, I'm just kidding.
59:52
Twenty six hundred degrees can get rid of. There was oh my god,
59:57
there was a there was some like mafia story I read back in the
1:00:01
fall. They arrested these no not mafia, Hell's Angels, And there was
1:00:08
one guy out of Boston, and he used to like take all the bodies
1:00:12
to a to a crematory that his buddy ran and they were just fucking There
1:00:16
was a crematorium in la I think in the nineties. I was just reading
1:00:21
this news article that got shut down for whatever reason. So they opened up
1:00:24
a ceramic shop and they were putting the bodies in the kilns and using the
1:00:28
kilns as the crematorium, and all their neighbors were like, hey, there's
1:00:31
like some weird smells coming out of that pottery shop. I'm not really sure
1:00:34
what's happening. And they totally got busted for it, and like that it's
1:00:37
the party's pizza. Pizza are just bak ignor all right, So this is
1:00:43
not my story, but this is a story, and I'm not naming names
1:00:45
because it's a friend of mine. He told me this about three years ago
1:00:49
or so, right before I started the podcast, and he got a twenty
1:00:53
three a meter gift for Christmas or whatever, and he, uh whatever to
1:01:00
get you know, the years ago, and just it just sat there.
1:01:04
One day he gets an email from some random person out in Denver, Colorado,
1:01:08
and he says, Hi, my name is so and So I did
1:01:13
a twenty three ande meters and says, we have a match that you may
1:01:15
be my brother or uncle something like that, brother or cousin, brother or
1:01:21
uncle, something like that. And he kind of read it and he looked
1:01:23
at it and he's like, eh, fucking whatever, just some fucking random
1:01:29
spam or something. So a couple of months go by, so he gets
1:01:34
another email from the same address and says, hey, I know he probably
1:01:37
brushed it off the last time, but everything I'm researching says that I think
1:01:42
you're my brother. Wow. So he's like whatever. So he calls his
1:01:45
dad and he says, Dad, what the fuck is this shit. Dad's
1:01:50
like, I don't fucking know. It's fucking some spam shit, you know
1:01:52
whatever, all right, So fucking he emails the guy back. He says,
1:01:58
you know, I talked to my family and you know, they don't
1:02:00
know anything of what you're talking about. And he goes listen. He was
1:02:05
like, I'll send you the fucking info from twenty three and eight, you
1:02:08
know, but it's it's pretty much like ninety nine percent that we are blood
1:02:15
brothers. Wow. So he's like, what the fuck, So calls his
1:02:20
dad back. So his dad was in the military overseas I won't say which
1:02:25
country, And he calls his dad back and he says, Dad, like
1:02:30
this dude's got like some empirical evidence that we have related somehow, and he
1:02:34
thinks to my brother. His dad just starts breaking down, I know,
1:02:37
and he's like, oh my god. He's like, I hope you I
1:02:39
wish you'd never found out, blah blah blah. My buddy's like, you
1:02:44
did you tell mom? And he's like no, and he goes, if
1:02:47
you don't tell mom, I will so scandal. He tells his mom like
1:02:52
the husband his father tells his mother ended up being the fucking best thing that
1:02:59
ever happened, because because my buddy ended up flying out to Denver meeting him,
1:03:04
and he was like, I don't know if you've ever seen the movie
1:03:06
Twins with Arnold Swarzbewer. They didn't. They didn't look good it that way.
1:03:10
But he said, Jerry, he said, everything we'd like, we
1:03:13
had the same laugh like we did, like we opened the car door the
1:03:15
same way, like we just everything we did was like holy shit, like
1:03:17
we hadn't known each other our whole lives. And there, you know,
1:03:21
he's a little younger than me a couple of years, and I think his
1:03:23
brother was probably like forty forty four, forty three, something like that.
1:03:30
But he goes out, he visits him, and now they you know,
1:03:32
they are in contact all the time, and you know, the mother got
1:03:35
over It was just one of those, you know, those things. You
1:03:37
know, he was overseas, you know, and he met a lady over
1:03:40
there, and you know, and now you know she lives in the States,
1:03:45
and don't I don't know where the story is right now, but like
1:03:50
he's like jerr if I I mean, I literally got this test kit for
1:03:52
Christmas. I just fucking whatever you do with it. I sent it in
1:03:57
and forgot all about it. Yeah, if I'd never sent it in,
1:04:00
you would never know, never have known. And at first it felt like
1:04:03
this catastrophe for the family, but it ended up being a blessing in disguise,
1:04:08
you know, meeting people that you were related to that you never know.
1:04:12
And did my father make a mistake, of course he did, but
1:04:15
whatever, everyone makes a mistake, you know, and he owned up to
1:04:17
it, you know, forty some years later. Whatever that is what it
1:04:21
is. So I can't fight the DNA, you know, I have a
1:04:25
similar story. I also so I never met my father and never met any
1:04:33
of that side of the family. And when I was maybe twenty two,
1:04:40
my mom sat me down one day and told me that my father had passed
1:04:45
away and that I had a half brother. Okay, so I had no
1:04:49
idea about this half brother. So it took three years. I was searching
1:04:55
for him, searching for him. My dad lived in North Carolina, I
1:04:59
think when he passed away, So I was looking down there in North Carolina
1:05:01
for my brother. I only knew his first name, Nick Yea. Turns
1:05:05
out this motherfucker lived in Stratford the whole time, right right, And so
1:05:11
I ended up finally meeting him when I was like twenty six. He found
1:05:14
me oddly enough, and it was like getting a sibling halfway through your life
1:05:19
or whatever. You know. It's like we were so similar and it was
1:05:25
eerie because we had never met, and it was just very unique experience.
1:05:30
Yeah, so I identify with that. Yeah, you know, it's not
1:05:32
funny, but you know, I'm dealing with my father's death and it was
1:05:35
just up there last weekend and going through all of his old shit and you
1:05:40
know, seen whole pictures and stuff, and you know, so we went
1:05:43
back to my brother's house and he always used that poker knight, so you
1:05:45
know, we had poker nite. My dad's change jar was still there,
1:05:48
so I used my dad's change jar and I went thirty bucks. Yeah nice,
1:05:53
I took the cash hole and you know, we're having some bourbons,
1:05:57
you know, and we started talking about, you know, we're gonna do
1:06:00
the the celebration of life and the like. So my brother, my father
1:06:03
would have turned eighty in July, right around the fourth, so we're gonna
1:06:08
do like the weekend after have an actual uh you know wake and he has
1:06:12
a plot already and we'll do that, and we're gonna have something either at
1:06:15
my brother's house or a treehouse. Breweries owns tree house. Yeah good,
1:06:19
I'll get it. I'll talk to you after, get a rate for you.
1:06:25
So, you know, we got a couple in us. And then
1:06:26
we're like, all right, well, my father didn't have a will,
1:06:29
so we're dealing with all that, and uh, I don't know much about
1:06:32
how this works, you know, as far as inheritance and stuff. So
1:06:35
I look at my brother and I'm like, do we like because we have
1:06:41
to apply to be the executor of the state, and so the thing goes
1:06:45
into paper blah blah blah blah blah. So I'm like, can anyone like
1:06:48
just appeal to this and he's like no, Like my brother's like, he
1:06:54
goes, unless we got some long lost brother that we don't know. I
1:06:58
think we're good. You never know, but after listening to these stories,
1:07:00
maybe not so. I don't know, but uh, yeah it's uh,
1:07:05
I'm sorry you never knew your father. I mean maybe it's for the better,
1:07:08
you know what. It's all right, Yeah, sometimes it bees like
1:07:11
that. Yeah, you know, you know, my parents were divorced when
1:07:13
I was really young. I just wouldn't have probably wouldn't have had it any
1:07:15
other way. Yeah, it's just you learn with what you exactly adapt to
1:07:19
your environment. I don't think I would have ever been as like outgoing and
1:07:25
you know, social if they weren't like that that was forced in a child,
1:07:30
moving around, moving around. Hi, my name is jereing me.
1:07:32
Hey, right exactly. Yeah, you know, I see a lot of
1:07:34
people are so timid, and you know, when it comes to social interaction
1:07:39
and makes you who you are, you know, and as long as you've
1:07:43
grown into something that you're proud of and it's all worth it, right,
1:07:45
Yeah, all right, so plug your website. We'll get you out of
1:07:47
here. My website www dot Sunshine Ceramics Studios dot com. Also on Facebook
1:07:55
and Instagram. Yeah it's a senior Instagram and friends on Facebook. Yet more
1:08:00
we should be But more importantly is to just come in to the studio and
1:08:03
come say hi to the dog Birdie. Oh yeah, because she's the light
1:08:08
of everyone's life. So it comes to up you dog friendly? I mean,
1:08:14
my friends think I am. It's a ceramic shop, so I'm dog
1:08:17
friendly, but get chaotic really quickly. And it's really small in there,
1:08:23
so I don't want to say I'm not dog friendly, but it's just it
1:08:26
gets very outside. It's nice, yes, much better, yes, yeah,
1:08:30
all right, thanks so much Marie for coming on the show. I
1:08:35
definitely got to sign up for a class and get dirty, yes, get
1:08:39
all played up. Yes, so yeah, check her out twenty two broad
1:08:43
Streets sun Signs Ceramics. I still it's okay Ceramic Studio U. And then
1:08:49
stay tuned for some pizza and pottery. Yes, and yes we could do
1:08:57
triple that way, the fired and barbare and it's not onto it. It's
1:09:00
like a code work and we'll get Patrick Swayzee on the TV Quadruple Pizza Party,
1:09:06
Pony Pottery, Patrick's Party, don't tell the fire Marshall in March fourteenth,
1:09:14
fourteenth, Yes, three point one four Oh that's right, my math
1:09:16
made over. And then when listening, obviously thank you for listening. And
1:09:21
I think Saturday I might do a quick little Super Bowl better show. I'm
1:09:26
trying to get one of my betting friends on who actually knows way more about
1:09:29
it than I do. Wait, who are you going for? Uh?
1:09:32
So I haven't made my official pick. Ye, this is this is how
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I bet games like this. I bet on the team I want to lose,
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okay, because I figure if they win and I'm pissed, at least
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I win money. If I don't bet a lot and if they lose,
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I'm happy and I lost a little money. I like that lot, you
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know. I mean, it's just kind of hedging my own emotional bet y.
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You know. So I'm probably gonna bet on Kansas City because I don't
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want them to win, okay, so noted, Yeah, that's kind of
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I'll change my answer to the forty nine ers then Murrie, thanks so much.
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Thank Yeah, we'll take a couple of photos for Insta and then we'll
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get you out of here. Thanks so much for listening, guys, talk
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to you later. Bye bye