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Psychic Medium Cindy Kaza Guides Us Through Signs, Spirits and The Afterlife · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: back to Misunderstood. I'm your host, Rachel Yucatel. So I've
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  Speaker 1: always been fascinated with the mysterious world of psychics and mediums.
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  Speaker 2: Have you been?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's something that we all are
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, I don't know, skeptical about, we wanna believe,
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  Speaker 1: and then some people really do believe. So I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to have a guest on to kind of debunk
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  Speaker 1: all the myths to talk to me about why they
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  Speaker 1: got into this. And I think I found the perfect
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  Speaker 1: guest for you. You know, when you lose someone, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's natural to wonder, obviously, about the afterlife, to
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  Speaker 1: wonder if that person is talking to you, if they
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  Speaker 1: can see you. And, you know, we really got to
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of the difference between psychics and mediums and
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  Speaker 1: if the afterworld really does exist. So today I get
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Cindy Kaza. She's an amazing psychic medium.
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  Speaker 1: She stars on the hit travel channel show, The Dead Files.
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  Speaker 1: And you can currently find her on tour all over
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  Speaker 1: the United States, helping connect her audience with their loved
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  Speaker 1: ones on the other side. So if you guys haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen The Dead Files, by the way, on the travel channel,
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  Speaker 1: you should really watch it. So I had not seen
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  Speaker 1: the show before I interviewed her. And in doing some
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  Speaker 1: research on her, I did watch some episodes and it's
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  Speaker 1: actually really great. And when I asked her about the show,
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  Speaker 1: she really does confirm that it is not staged. The
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  Speaker 1: producers do not tell her where they are going. They
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  Speaker 1: do not tell her what to say, what to feel.
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  Speaker 1: So it is really interesting to hear the process of
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  Speaker 1: that show and how real it is. Cindy is so
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  Speaker 1: cool and grounded. Not what you might imagine for a
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  Speaker 1: psychic medium. She has such a way of explaining things
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  Speaker 1: or events that sometimes seem unexplainable. We talk about following
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  Speaker 1: your intuition and how that manifests differently in everyone, whether
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  Speaker 1: we should believe in signs. And Cindy actually opens up
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  Speaker 1: about a personal story of loss and what signs mean
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  Speaker 1: to her. We talk about spirit guides and if we
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  Speaker 1: all have one and what they look like. Our conversation
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  Speaker 1: didn't stop at just the mysteries of the present life.
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  Speaker 1: Cindy spoke passionately about forgiveness, soul integration, death, and the afterlife.
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  Speaker 1: I learned so much from talking to her, and she
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  Speaker 1: really gave me a glimpse into this mystical world of
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  Speaker 1: the unknown. Whether you are a believer or a skeptic,
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  Speaker 1: I know you will take something spiritual away from this episode.
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  Speaker 1: So please sit back and enjoy with me this conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Cindy Kaza. Hi Cindy, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: joining me on Misunderstood.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: So the first thing I wanted to start with, there
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  Speaker 1: is a distinction between a psychic and a medium, correct
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but most people in the modern
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  Speaker 1: world use the terms interchangeably. So I wanted to start
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  Speaker 1: with the definition from you and the difference.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. So psychics pick up on past,
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  Speaker 3: present and future. So if you're going to a psychic,
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  Speaker 3: you would be asking questions about your own life, people
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  Speaker 3: in your life. A lot of people ask questions about relationships, work,
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  Speaker 3: so on and so forth. Right. Mediums communicate with spirits,
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  Speaker 3: with people. energies and other dimensions. So all mediums are psychic, right?
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  Speaker 3: So I call myself a psychic medium just because I
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  Speaker 3: want people to understand that I can do both, but
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  Speaker 3: medium would be enough technically to say I'm a medium, right?
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  Speaker 3: But I'll say like not all psychics have the same
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  Speaker 3: level of mediumistic ability. So some people will just work
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  Speaker 3: on a psychic level, which is amazing, but they won't
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  Speaker 3: really go into connecting with the spirit world. And I particularly,
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  Speaker 3: particularly prefer to work with spirits. So Anyway, that's that's
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  Speaker 3: the difference. But a lot of people, you're right, they
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  Speaker 3: don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: So and explain this like spirit world as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: people that are dealing with tarot cards and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talking about your past and if you're going to marry
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  Speaker 1: the person you're with now or whatever. So like, how
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  Speaker 1: do you identify what you're good at?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just through experience, through trying different things. I teach
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  Speaker 3: mediumship a lot and intuitive development. And I always tell
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  Speaker 3: my students, just be open to whatever is happening. And
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  Speaker 3: some students find they're just working on a more psychic level,
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  Speaker 3: but it's one is not better than the other. So
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  Speaker 3: I really want to stress that they're both really useful.
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  Speaker 3: But you won't really know until you get validated, until
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  Speaker 3: you try different things. And, you know, psychic work is
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  Speaker 3: is really I have a friend who's a psychic investigator.
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  Speaker 3: So she works with law enforcement to help solve crimes.
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  Speaker 3: That is not my forte. It's not my cup of
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  Speaker 3: tea necessarily. But like, I see how powerful her work is.
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  Speaker 3: And she's really good at what she does. She literally
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  Speaker 3: works with law enforcement to help solve murders, find missing people.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always wondered about that because you see that
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  Speaker 1: a lot on shows and, you know, you never well,
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  Speaker 1: you assume it's mostly scripted, but it's like if somebody
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  Speaker 1: can actually speak to the dead, why? And they're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with a homicide. Wouldn't they be able to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: conjure up the spirit of the person that died and
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  Speaker 1: find out who killed them or where their body is
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  Speaker 1: if they're missing?
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  Speaker 3: Not necessarily. I mean, and look like television, the shows
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  Speaker 3: that I'm on are not scripted. Like when I'm walking
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  Speaker 3: into an investigation, I'm going in. They don't tell me anything.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm on dead file season 15. It's a new
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  Speaker 3: show that I'm on. I mean, the show's been on
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  Speaker 3: for a long time, but I'm a new co host
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  Speaker 3: to the show. When I go in, they don't tell
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  Speaker 3: me anything. I have no idea whose house I'm going into.
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  Speaker 3: Like a lot of times a hotel is 40 minutes
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  Speaker 3: away from the actual actual location that we're investigating. I
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  Speaker 3: walk in, I see what I'm getting. They don't tell
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  Speaker 3: me whether I got anything right until the end either.
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  Speaker 3: So it's one of those things where like, you just
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  Speaker 3: have to like, show up and just get what you're getting,
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  Speaker 3: trust that it's going to work out. And that's all
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  Speaker 3: that you can do. But it's not necessarily like if
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  Speaker 3: somebody is working on a psychic level, they might be
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  Speaker 3: able to see where the body is, they might psychically
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  Speaker 3: be able to see who killed the person. But if
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  Speaker 3: they're working psychically, that doesn't mean they're connecting to the
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  Speaker 3: spirit of the person who's on the other side, because
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  Speaker 3: they may might be more psychic than they are mediumistic.
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  Speaker 1: So you said that sometimes you'll walk into a place
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  Speaker 1: and get a feeling. How do you turn that on
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  Speaker 1: versus turn it off? I mean, I would assume that
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  Speaker 1: if you're, you can't just have a conversation with anyone
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  Speaker 1: from like the supermarket to your family and like hear
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  Speaker 1: these spirits all the time, right?
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  Speaker 3: No, that would be awful. Yeah, so- No, I do
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  Speaker 3: not walk around talking to dead people all day. I
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  Speaker 3: have a life that I want to live of my own.
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  Speaker 3: I try to be as grounded as possible. I describe
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  Speaker 3: it like this. It's like if you could imagine a
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  Speaker 3: radio that's plugged into an electrical outlet, right? There's always
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  Speaker 3: going to be a current, an underlying current running through.
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  Speaker 3: But now I can control how high I turn up
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  Speaker 3: the volume. So when I'm going to a location to work,
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  Speaker 3: I turn the volume up high. When I leave, I
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  Speaker 3: turn it back down.
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  Speaker 2: So you spoke about saying that you teach this.
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  Speaker 1: Can you teach this to anyone or someone has to
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  Speaker 1: innately have had some sort of experience when they were
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  Speaker 1: younger at some point in their life where they know
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  Speaker 1: that they are open to this?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I think everybody comes into this world with the
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  Speaker 3: ability to feel these energies. I do not in any
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  Speaker 3: way think I'm like this Oracle, you must come to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all have it to a degree. I
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  Speaker 3: always say everyone can play the piano. Not everybody's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a concert pianist, but we all have the
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  Speaker 3: ability to feel energies. And people walk around all the
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  Speaker 3: time in daily life saying, oh man, I should have
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  Speaker 3: trusted my gut. I should have trusted my gut. What
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  Speaker 3: they're really saying when they say that is I should
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  Speaker 3: have trusted my intuition. I should have trusted my psychic
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  Speaker 3: ability just using different language. And I can't stress enough
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  Speaker 3: how important language is when we're talking about this subject
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  Speaker 3: because people feel a lot more comfortable saying intuition or
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  Speaker 3: they feel a lot more comfortable saying.
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  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
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  Speaker 4: for it?
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  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
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  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 4: Where?
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  Speaker 5: Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 6: There's an accent on the E.
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  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Done Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift? Please.
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  Speaker 4: Are you going past Kimmage?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 6: Done Deal Cars.
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  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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  Speaker 3: I had a dream that this happened and then it happened.
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  Speaker 3: But those experiences are psychic experiences. But the word psychic,
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  Speaker 3: you know, has a little bit of a stigma attached
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  Speaker 3: to it. So people are having these experiences all the time.
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  Speaker 3: They might be describing the experiences using different language. But
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I really, really believe
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  Speaker 3: that we all, again, have the ability to feel these energies.
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  Speaker 1: How did you first come to realize that you might
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  Speaker 1: have some of these abilities? You were 10 years old
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  Speaker 1: when you had your first experience.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the first experience I had was 10. There
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  Speaker 3: was a girl in my elementary school who passed away
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  Speaker 3: in a car accident. And after she died, I woke
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  Speaker 3: up in the middle of the night and I saw
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  Speaker 3: her standing directly next to my bed, like a full
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  Speaker 3: body apparition. It was terrifying. And I pulled the covers
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  Speaker 3: over my head. I pulled them back down and she
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  Speaker 3: was still standing there. So that's my first experience. Did
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  Speaker 3: I understand that I was a psychic medium at that moment? No,
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  Speaker 3: I was 10. You know, I grew up in a
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  Speaker 3: family that was religious. Most of my family is super Catholic.
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  Speaker 3: There are some, you know, born again Christian in the family, too.
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  Speaker 3: So we didn't talk about stuff like this at all.
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  Speaker 3: But I will tell you, my mother used to always
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  Speaker 3: say when I was a kid, Cindy's really sensitive. She
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  Speaker 3: can see things about people. Right. And that was true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean. I knew when things were going to happen
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  Speaker 3: before they did. I could read people very well. I
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  Speaker 3: could feel energies around me, but I didn't have the
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  Speaker 3: language to describe my experiences. I didn't know what a
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  Speaker 3: psychic medium was. And it wasn't until I was 19,
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  Speaker 3: I met this woman named Bonnie, who then became my
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  Speaker 3: first mentor. She looked at me and said, you're a
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  Speaker 3: psychic medium. And I was like, what are you talking about, lady?
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what are you talking about? But she
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  Speaker 3: was also a psychic medium. So she saw that in me.
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  Speaker 3: And I would spend time with her and she would
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  Speaker 3: talk to me about metaphysics and psychic things and mediumship
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  Speaker 3: and spirits. And it still wasn't quite landing until my
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  Speaker 3: 20s when it just started making more sense. And then,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I looked back at the experience that I
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  Speaker 3: had when I was a 10 and And I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that really was real. I really was seeing a spirit
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  Speaker 3: because for many years, I never forgot that experience. I
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  Speaker 3: knew something happened, but I didn't know, was I dreaming?
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  Speaker 3: What was that? Right. And then I realized all along,
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  Speaker 3: like all these experience I was having were, were because
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sensitive and I'm a psychic medium, but it's
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  Speaker 3: really common for people to have dreams of their loved
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  Speaker 3: ones after they they've died. I mean, it's like, I
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  Speaker 3: ask it all in my live events. I do a
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  Speaker 3: lot of live events where I, you know, tour and
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  Speaker 3: bring through people's loved ones who have passed away. And
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of every live event, I ask people,
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  Speaker 3: how many of you have had visitation dreams with your
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  Speaker 3: loved ones after they've died? And I'd say in almost
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  Speaker 3: every audience, it's at least 70% of the audience. It's huge.
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  Speaker 3: And visitation dreams, it's not just like you're seeing an
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  Speaker 3: image of your loved one and then you wake up.
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  Speaker 3: It's very specific. It's powerful. You'll never forget it. You'll
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  Speaker 3: remember what they were wearing, how you felt. It's a
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  Speaker 3: dream that you will never forget. And a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people have had them. Another common experience people have is
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  Speaker 3: smelling cigarette smoke or perfume or something in the room
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  Speaker 3: when there's nobody there smoking or wearing perfume. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, these experiences are more common than people recognize,
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  Speaker 3: but they're also a lot more subtle than what people
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  Speaker 3: think they should be like based on what we see
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  Speaker 3: in Hollywood, like The Sixth Sense, that movie. I use
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  Speaker 3: it as an example. It's an excellent movie. It got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things right. But I don't know a
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  Speaker 3: single medium who can't tell the difference between somebody who's
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  Speaker 3: alive or dead all of the time, right? Like they
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  Speaker 3: might see a full body apparition and be confused for
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  Speaker 3: a second, but then usually they realize what happened, right?
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  Speaker 3: And the signs are usually a lot more subtle than that,
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  Speaker 3: way more subtle.
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  Speaker 2: So and are you.
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  Speaker 1: As a medium, when you say you're communicating, are you
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  Speaker 1: seeing like when you're doing this in a group setting?
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  Speaker 1: Are you seeing just a bunch of people or hearing
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  Speaker 1: like I know you said about the radio thing, but
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  Speaker 1: like how do you deal with it when you're in
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  Speaker 1: a huge room of people? And obviously the people attending
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  Speaker 1: are all really wanting to be picked or connect with someone.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you kind of pick who you're going with?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't go directly to people in the
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  Speaker 3: audience first. That's not how I work. I go to
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  Speaker 3: the spirit world first and I see who's coming through.
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  Speaker 3: So it'll be something like this. Like I'd say, I
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  Speaker 3: have a dad, he died of cancer. I'm hearing the
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  Speaker 3: name Pat. I feel pulled to this area who understands this.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: And the way that the information comes through, I describe
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: it kind of like playing a game of pictionary charades
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: and telephone all at the same time. If you could
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: imagine that because it's, I see, which is using clairvoyance.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Clairvoyance means clear seeing. So it's like if you were
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to think of an image of your loved one in
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: your mind, that's how I see. Usually it's not full
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: body apparition. It's in the mind, the mind's eye. I hear,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: which is called clairaudience, but it's not external auditory most
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: of the time. Rarely is it for me. It's like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: if you were to sing the words to your favorite
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: song in your head. It sounds like I'm talking to myself,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: but it's actually not coming from me. Yep. And then
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I can feel.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: There's an accent on the E.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundiel Cars.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Lyft?
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Please.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: Oh, Kimmage.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: No.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Done deal cars.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Their personalities. I can feel their emotions. I can feel
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: how they were when they were alive, which is clairsentient.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So one spirit might give me three pieces of information
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: using three different clairs. I might see the name, I
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: might feel how they died, and I might hear where
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: they lived or something like that. So when I talk
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: about studying mediumship and teaching mediumship, It's not that I'm
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: teaching somebody like necessarily how to be a medium, like
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: they have to be open enough to have the information
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: coming through. But it's more learning how to navigate all
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: of the pieces of information coming at you really quickly.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And what and when I'm working with a large group
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: of 300 people. There are a lot of spirits there.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So you also have to learn how to navigate like
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: the line of spirits waiting to come in, how to
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: be grounded in that experience as a medium, because it
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: can be really difficult.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So if we have anyone listening that is interested in
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: kind of learning and opening themselves up to this, is
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: there any sort of advice or like a couple tips
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you can give people to see if they can be
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: more open?
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I'd say the biggest piece of advice I have
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: for everybody is to trust your experiences because the one
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: thing that people do most often is they have an
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: experience and then they immediately tell themselves they made it up.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: It's not real. It's all in their head and that
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: it can't possibly be true. So the more you believe,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the more you receive. If you can't get out of
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: your own way and that's going to be very hard
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to move forward and to trust that the spirit world
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: is really there, right? Yeah. And another piece of advice
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: would be again, like studying, sit in meditation, allow yourself
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to be still long enough to feel, feel these energies
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: coming in. Because again, I can't stress enough how subtle
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: it can be. And if you can't sit still enough
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: to notice the subtleties, you're going to miss them. Yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: so there are a lot of different things. I mean,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: it's like, I mean, this could be a whole podcast
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: on mediumship development, right? If I had an hour to
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: just talk about that. But I mean, the biggest thing
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: is the trust. It's really hard to move forward if
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: you can't trust your experiences. Right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Do you believe in signs? A lot of people will say, oh, my.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: so-and-so loved rainbows or they loved, you know, butterflies. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: then after that person passes, they will see that all
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Do you believe in that?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And is that a real thing? Or do you think
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that's somebody really just holding out hope and now kind
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of pointing those things out because they know that that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: reminds them of that person?
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Look, I believe in signs. I believe in symbols. I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: believe in all of it. Here's my take on that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: It's not that the spirit, and this is my personal belief, right?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Everybody has their own way of experiencing the spirit world,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: their own views and values and whatnot. But it's not
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: like the spirit of the person is inside the butterfly.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It feels more like this. You might be walking down
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the street and all of the sudden, You're like, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: have to look left and there you look and there's
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: a butterfly right next to you. Had you not been
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: guided to look at that moment in that direction, you
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: would have totally missed it. And I just want to share,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: you know, because sometimes it can sound kind of like
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: cheesy when I'm giving a reading. I'm like, oh, no,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: do I really have to say look for rainbows and
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: like this feels so cheesy, but I'll tell you. Like, like, uh,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: my brother passed away last year. Right. And, and it's, it's,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: thank you. It's been very interesting for me, uh, as
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: somebody working in this field professionally, who can connect with
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: other people's loved ones all the time to not be
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: able to feel my brother around me. So this has
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: been like, he's dead. He's been dead for a year.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Haven't really felt him, but at his funeral and everybody
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: saw this at the funeral. Uh, we looked up and
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: there was like a rainbow around the sun. It's some
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: sort of a, it's, it's called something. I can't remember
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: what it's called, but it's a meteorological, um, phenomenon or something. Yeah. Phenomenon. So,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: so we all saw it. Like everybody at the funeral
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: is taking pictures of it. We're like, this is crazy.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: And then, um, I went to the Airbnb after his funeral.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting on the deck. It's raining another rainbow. It's
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: like right going through the lawn. I mean, it's low.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: It's like below the trees. And like, this is also
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: very interesting. And then so I'm like, OK, my brother's
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: sign is rainbows. I'm just going to trust that. What
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: more do I need to know that his sign is rainbows?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And then we spread his ashes this summer in a
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: lake and it was not raining. It was like a
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: beautiful day. spread the ashes, and there are five people
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: in the boat. We look up and there are these
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: micro mini rainbows forming all over the place. Like, I'd
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: love to send you pictures of this because I've never
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: seen anything like it. It wasn't a full rainbow. It
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: was just like these little rainbows kind of appearing everywhere. And,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: you know, so I know that signs and symbols, like
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I could not explain that. None of us could. We're like,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: how is this even happening? Like, how is this happening?
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: So I don't feel my brother coming near me and saying, Hey, Cindy,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I'm here. Good to see you. But I see the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: rainbows and that's that, that feels right to me. There've
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: been way too many situations or things that have occurred
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: since he died with rainbows for me to deny that,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you know? So I think it's important for people to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: like trust those experiences too. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: That's really good advice. And that's a beautiful story that
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: gave me chills.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the skeptics right now, because for me,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I lost my father when I was young. I lost
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: my fiance when we were engaged.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And I've been open about it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It's something that people can Google me and they know
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: everything about those stories. And I've had people try to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: connect me with psychics or mediums in the past. And
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I've been really hesitant, actually a couple, I think once really,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I was really read by somebody, but I was very
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: skeptical about going into it because I feel like so
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: many people can do their due diligence on someone and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: then kind of know what to say. And talk to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: me about whether or not this is a real profession
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and if this is a.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Real thing or if people can learn it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to be offensive at all, but
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: for example, I interviewed a mentalist who was doing kind
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: of all the same things that a psychic could.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Do, right?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: They can predict things, they could kind of, and he
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: explained to me that you can really learn it. I mean,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it's about learning people, it's about learning body language and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: then kind of steering them in the way to get
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: them to answer or to get you to say things
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that they kind of egg you on and then you
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: know where you're going. So talk to me about how
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to deal with the misconceptions and the skeptics, please.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Well, sure. OK, so I learned a long time ago
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: my job is not to turn skeptics into believers. It
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: is a lost cause. It is not the right use
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: of my energy. It's just like I believe in what
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I do. I know it's real. I go, you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: do readings all the time. I can't deny the things
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: that have happened with me having zero information. Right. So
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: let me just say that to begin with. Are there
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: people that lie and are there frauds? Absolutely. They exist
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: in this profession too. It's very unfortunate. But what I
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: will say is this, like- Wait.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you a quick question? Can you spot
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: those people immediately?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Not always. Okay. Not always. And- Uh, mentalists.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know much about mentalism, but I do know
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: mentalists tend to dislike mediums because they think we're mentalists
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: when I'm not a mentalist and I've never studied mentalism. Right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: But what I'll say is this, like, how is it that.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I can be given zero information about an investigation I'm doing. Zero.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Like the production company goes so far, I don't even
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: have the address of the location. They put me in
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a van so I can't see it. They don't tell
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: me where I'm going. And go in and get this
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: information that's, you know, validated after. That makes sense. Getting
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: names and things like that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with? they have
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than, like, anywhere else.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: It's Dunediel.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Dunediel.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: There's an accent on the E.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dunediel Cars.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Lift?
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Please. You going past Kimmage?
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Oh, Kimmage.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: No.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Dunediel Cars.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Like, how would I know that? You know, I don't
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: have the information ahead of time. And doing live events,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I could do a live event blindfolded and still get
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the same information. Really?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Sure. I mean, it's weird to do it blindfolded if
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: you're in front of 300 people with a blindfold on
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the whole time. You know, that's awkward, but it's possible. Right. And,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I've done readings at live events where I've
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: turned my back to the audience and brought through a reading.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I can't even see the person that I'm reading for.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And it's the same thing like with Dead Files, the
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: show that I'm on now, like I'm not interacting with
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the families that live there when I'm doing the walkthroughs.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: There's nobody there except for the camera guys. Right. So
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not reading anybody's body language because there's nobody there
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to read.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Wow. I just got chills again. I watched a couple.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So you've been on three episodes that have aired so far.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You started September 7th?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Three.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So I watched, I guess two at this point and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they're really good. I did not know before. And so
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that was my main question. Is it, is any of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it scripted?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You've kind of answered it. It's not.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's, it's scripted in the way that
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: they're finding these homes and they're finding these situations obviously.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And then they're bringing you, but they're not explaining to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: you how they want you to react and what they
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: want you to say.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: They don't tell me anything. And then at the end,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: you'll see with the reveal, right? With my partner, Steve DeShave,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: who's the retired homicide detective. We don't interact until we're
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: on camera at the end. So when you see us
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: being surprised, like, oh my God, I can't believe this
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: lined up that way is because we literally haven't spoken
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: about what the other person got until that moment. So
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: both of our reactions are really genuine. We're just like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: oh my God, like, So, yeah, I mean, it's it's look,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's unfortunate that there are people out
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: there like. without good intentions, that are frauds, that are
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: making us all look bad. It sucks. But all that
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I can do as a psychic medium is be me
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: and be in integrity and do the best that I
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: can do. And I'll tell you this too, another misconception
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: that people have about psychics and mediums is that we're
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: supposed to know everything, get everything right all the time.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: And that's also not true. And, and because we can
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: misinterpret we, we, the information has to be filtered through
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: our awareness as well right and so.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Right and your experience of what they're saying I would
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: assume that's hard.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: It can be right. It can be hard because you
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: have to get out of your own way enough to
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: let it come in without misinterpreting or filtering it through
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: your lens in a way that's like, um, what's the word?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Like it's a projection, right? You can project things into
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: a reading without meaning to. Uh, so that's another thing
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: like with studying mediumship, it's learning how to get out
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: of your own way and get out of your own
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: mind enough, uh, One of my mentors used to say,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to be a good medium, you have to lose your mind.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what is he saying? I was like, oh,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I get it. You have to get out of your
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: own way. Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's so interesting.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Has it ever backfired? Like when I was watching the show. show,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, what if these families.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Got it wrong?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: What if there are no paranormal things going on there?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: then would you walk into a situation and be like,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I don't see anything here. There's nothing here. Like, how
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: would that work?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, if that were the case,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: if I really didn't see anything, I would say it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I think what happens because- Has that ever happened? It
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: hasn't happened. Not yet. Because I think the production company
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: does enough- research in the sense where they make sure
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they're not going to put me on an episode like that,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: because they really make sure the family is like not
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: making stuff up, you know, like they, they really do
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: a good job with that. But there have been experiences
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: and not just on dead.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Files, right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Like if I talk about my career and places I've
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: been and people I've spoken to where people have said
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: to me, like, there's something in my house, it's a demon.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's not. It's not a demon. You know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: that's not what's happening here. I have no problem telling
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: people that I don't see activity in their home that
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I would tell people exhaust all of the other options
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: before you assume it's paranormal activity make sure it's not
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: you know something with the pipes that you're hearing bangs
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: in the night or whatever yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And I do notice that Steve has made an attempt
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: as he's interviewing people to say well could that be
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that you're misinterpreting that so that does come out in
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the show and obviously in reality when you're doing stuff
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: What makes a place haunted and why would a spirit
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: haunt a person or a place, you know, besides, you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: or why would they haunt them as opposed to coming
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to be like, hi, I'm here.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I'm okay. I want you to move on and be happy.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Like what's the whole thing with haunting?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Well, look, when we say haunted, right. It's usually represents
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: something terrifying that's happening. Right. We could also just say
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: paranormal activity or activity. And look, I sit with this
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: a lot to say like, what is really going on?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Because it's hard for me to believe that a soul
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: would be like, stuck in one house for eternity. Like
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I can't energetically wrap my head around that, right? And so,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: and look, ask me 10 years the same question as this,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: 10 years from now, I might have a different answer
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: for you. So this is based on my understanding now, okay?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: So if you read about people that have had near-death experiences,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: there's one book that I talk about a lot. It's
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: called Dying to Be Me. It was written by a
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: woman named Anita Morjani. So Anita Morjani had a near-death
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: experience And when she was on the other side, she
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: was able to be in like five different places all
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: at the same time. And they were nowhere near one another.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: So she comes back. She's obviously alive. She wrote the book.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: She comes back from the NDE and she's telling people,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I saw this, this, this, and this. And everything she
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: saw was accurate. She was literally in five different places
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: at once. Okay. And so I was like, well, that's interesting. Like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: you know, what does that show us about the ability
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of the soul to travel? And in my understanding, time
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: and space are not linear on the other side, right?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: So all of the language that we're using to describe
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: these experiences in this dimension, the language is limited by
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: our understanding of time and space because we live in
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: this realm of duality and all of that, right? So-
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: But I was like, well, if Anita Marjani had that experience,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: then it's probably possible that different aspects of these souls
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: that I'm encountering could be other places as well. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: then the question is, why am I encountering this aspect
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: of the soul? And what I believe is happening is
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: that I'm encountering maybe a fragmented aspect of the soul,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: a traumatized aspect of the soul that has unfinished business,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: that story hasn't been told correctly, that still has pain.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: And this aspect of the soul needs healing. It needs
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a voice. It needs somebody to give it a voice
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: so it can reintegrate to the oneness or go somewhere else, right?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Is this what you would call what we would say
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is like being stuck in limbo?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: You know, you hear that people refer to.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, right. Limbo, purgatory, so on and so forth.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I'd like to describe it as an aspect of the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: soul trying to figure it out. That maybe, maybe it's limbo,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: maybe it's purgatory, but needs a little bit of extra love.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And so my job is, as a medium is to
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: sit with that part and say, what is going on?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Why are you here? What happened to you? Why can't
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: you move on? Why are you still stuck here? And
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: when I say stuck here, you know, some people will
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: say that these are like earthbound spirits. Earthbound to me
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: is the language of that is a little bit tricky
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: because I think that when we pass away, our energy
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: shifts to a different space. It vibrates.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: It's Dune ADL.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: There's an accent on the e do you mean yes
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: i got it on done.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Deal cars lift please you're going past kimaj oh kimmage
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: no done deal cars you couldn't possibly go anywhere.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Else differently so there are aspects of souls that are
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: like really impressed upon earthly things that like still want
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: things that are here they're attached right um And if
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: we look at like, there's something that people practice now,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: it's like in healing and psychology and stuff, it's called
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: parts integration. So like people will go to a session
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: with a healer or a psychologist, and they'll try to
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: find this aspect of themselves that fragmented off from a trauma.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: And once you can find it and what age it happens,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: you can see it and you can reintegrate it. It's
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: like the same thing with like me working with spirits,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I think, right? I'm saying I think because this is
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: just an idea that I have. That's what it feels like. But,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: you know, people always ask me, like, what can you
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: do in this dimension and in this realm to make
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: your transition to the afterlife easier? Like, what can you do, right?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good question.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Uh, my, my answer is, um, you know, if, if
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: we really look at the, the role that forgiveness plays in,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: in life, uh, not only forgiving other people, but forgiving ourselves,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: if we can forgive ourselves, which is even harder a
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: lot of times than forgiving other people. Uh, I think
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: that that makes it easier because we're not, we won't be,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: we won't have these fragmented pieces that have unresolved issues
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: and business and stuff like that, but I don't know. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: ask me in 10 years. I might have a different
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: answer for you. That's where I'm at now.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I get it. It sounds like you're always learning. So
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: what have you learned about life after death?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: You mentioned a little bit of stuff, but that people
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: might be interested to know.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Well, you don't die. So death is not real. We're
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: not dead. We're just in a different space. I still
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: feel like we have healing to do. We have growth.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: We help other people from the other space, the other realm.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you the number of times I've had
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: spirits come through and say, hey, tell my family that
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: my job on the other side is to help people
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: who have died from drug overdoses come through or to
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: find peace. Or to find their way. And a lot
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: of times it's people that have died from drug overdoses
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that are then helping people that have also died the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: same way find their way. And they're also helping people
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: in the living suffering from the same, you know, addiction,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: affliction issue. And so it's death isn't real. It's you
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: just are going to a different space and it continues on.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: So this is a personal question, I guess.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I am curious if you get the feeling that there
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: is any suffering there. So like when somebody dies, I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: feel like as a human, you go through so much
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: suffering and that trauma and pain can stay with you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, right? I'm curious if
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you have found or you have any thoughts on if
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: there is feelings of like that on the other side,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: because I would assume they're suffering that they can't be
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: with their loved ones or they can't explain that they're
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: okay or whatever it is.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, like I was saying, I experience, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: especially in the paranormal investigations where I'm experiencing these parts
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: of the soul that still have not gotten out of
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the loop of anger or sadness or betrayal. But again,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: and this is where I say, like, I'm still learning.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think the entirety of the soul is going
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: through that. I don't. There's a fragment. There's an aspect.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: And also, you know, when people have disabilities in this dimension,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: that goes away. Like I'll see people that couldn't walk
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: when they were alive, but they're running. They'll show me
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I'm running through the field on the other side because
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: they want their family to know they can run, they
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: can walk, they can move. So these physical ailments that
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: we experience here do not carry over into the afterlife
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: because you don't have a body like you have here, right? Right.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: So that's different. Yeah. Okay.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Has the spirit ever come to you and out of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: nowhere and sort of bothered you enough to be like
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I need you to find this person I need you
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to contact them.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Good question. The answer is yes I have felt spirit
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: saying that to me, but I will tell you, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: have pretty good boundaries in that sense I'm not the
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: type of medium that approaches people that I don't know.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: without their permission to give them a reading. I think
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: that that is crossing a boundary. I very much ask people,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: can I share with you what I am seeing? Because
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: You know, we see some shows where like the medium
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: is walking up to somebody on the street and saying, hey,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I know you don't know me, but your dad's here. Hi.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, I don't do that. That's not
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: how I operate because. It's important to remember that people
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: have trauma, even with people on the other side. What
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: if I'm re-traumatizing somebody? What if I'm triggering them? What
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: if they're super religious and then they think that whatever
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing is actually demonic and not the soul of
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: their loved one? Then they're walking away thinking a demon's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: following them, they might be traumatized, and then I'm leaving.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: You know, and so I don't operate that way. Although
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I'll say I know mediums that do and I know
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: people who receive it well. It's personal preference. But I
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: try to be very mindful of all of those factors
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: and I try to be very respectful of other people
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and their emotions.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been scared by your own powers or abilities,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: whatever you call it?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: What do you call it?
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, intuition, abilities, ability to connect. Yeah, well, intuition, mediumship. Scared. Like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: what do you mean by what I've seen and then
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: it's happened?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, by what you've seen, by what you've felt, by
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: what you felt obligated to tell someone or not tell someone.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, can it be scary?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, it can be scary. One thing I don't like
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: is when I can see when somebody's going to die.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I really don't like that. And I'll tell you a story.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: This happened in... I think it was 2011. So this
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: is going back some time. Um, somebody had asked me
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: for a reading and at the time it wasn't like
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a one-on-one. He just said, I would love a reading.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I said, fine, I'll go home. I'll sit down. I'll
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: tap into what I'm experiencing. I'll send you what I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: got in an email. Then you can read it. If
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: you have any questions, let me know. And in the reading, uh,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I was seeing he was going to have a heart
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: attack and I was seeing that it was going to
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: be around Christmas and that he needed to have his
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: heart looked at. And I was like, great, how do
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I tell this person what I just saw? Like, this
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: is really tricky because I'm not a doctor. I don't diagnose.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So then there's that piece. Then you don't want to
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: scare somebody and say something that's like really going to
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: freak them out. And so what I said was, look,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to scare you, but I feel like
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: you really need to have your heart looked at as
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: soon as possible. Like, again, not trying to scare you,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: but I really, really think you should get your heart
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: looked at. He died on Christmas day, literally on Christmas
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: day of that year. And it was for me really,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: really difficult because I felt like when I saw it,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: maybe I didn't say enough. Maybe I didn't push it
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: enough enough. all of the things like the, and then
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: being scared of like, how did I see that? Like,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see those things if I can't
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: do anything to help somebody. Like the whole thing was
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: really hard.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, do you think that
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you telling them could change the future for them?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Or do you think at that point it's too late?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: It's, I think it's hard to say, right? Like, it's like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: some things you can't change. I mean, it could be
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: that he could have gotten his heart looked at and
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't have changed anything. I have no idea. Right.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: But that's one of the things that I find like challenging.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: And I don't like receiving that information. At least then
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I really didn't. I think now I'm a little bit
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: further on in my career or in my work to,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I think, maybe sit with that in a different way.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Because also it's like, sure, maybe if I see something
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like that now, it's an opportunity to spend more time
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: with that person or to show up differently, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: but it's tough. That can be really tough. Yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Has anyone ever stalked you because they want to reach
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: their loved ones so much that they're like not leaving
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: you alone about, please, can you contact this person?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Or please, can you do a reading with me?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, stalking is a strong word in that sense.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Not really. Have I had stalkers since I've been on TV? Like,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, not, not extreme stalking. I've had some
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: weird things happen. And it really, it's usually people that
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: aren't even interested necessarily in my ability. It's for some
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: other reason, you know?
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Cause they're attracted to you or something.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Whatever. Right. It like goes with the territory of being
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: in the public like that. So I just, you know, yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you've had that too, right?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, I think what's interesting is that people
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: think they know you, right. And they just don't.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: And so they associate with, you know, they, they, don't
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: really have boundaries because they they act like your friends
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: already and that can be too much.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: It's so weird it's so weird like people like come
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: up to me and they're like oh hey I saw
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: this this and this I'm like how do you know
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: that oh I follow you on Instagram like they're following
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: your Instagram so intensely yeah it's like actually really it's
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: just such a weird time we live in right it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: just so.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Weird no it is weird there's like no privacy for
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: sure um So I know one of your dreams is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to have an art show displaying spirits that you've encountered
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: in haunted houses or just all through.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Your life, right? Where are you in that level of
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: your dream?
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, I mean, look, I'm at the beginning of that, right?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I've been creating spirit art. I call it spirit art
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: because I don't really know what to call it. Let's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: call it channeled art. Since 2009, I think that's when
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I really started doing it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: And I kind of stepped away from it for a bit.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: And then I came back to it. And what I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: do most of the time is I draw people's spirit guides.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: So I believe we all have spirit guides around us.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: We all have spirit guides, at least one.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: What's a spirit guide?
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, a spirit guide is a spirit on the other
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: side that is watching out for us. And it doesn't
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: have to be a family member. It can be somebody
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: that lived a really long time ago, somebody that follows
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: us throughout life in a good way. They don't give
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: us all the answers. I believe that we're here in school.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: We come in with lessons to learn, with soul contracts,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: for lack of a better term. but we all have
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: guides and we have different guides. We, I think we
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: have at least one or two that follow us throughout
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: our lifetimes. Like they're always there. And then we have
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: different guides that come in depending on what we're going through. Right.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: So I've discovered that I have the ability to draw
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: people's guides and then the guides will give a message
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: to the person and the person that's receiving the message.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: It makes the message make sense to them, you know?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And I really, really love doing that because, um, You know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: it's nice to know that we have somebody with us.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: It's nice to know that we have somebody watching out
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: for us.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: And look, I open it up to, like, people believe
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: in all sorts of things on the other side. I'm
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: open to all of it. Aliens, humans, whatever. You know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: it's like all energy that's over there. So I have
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: a friend who's like, please draw my guide. And as
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I was drawing the guide, I'm like, oh, my God,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: this is an alien. Like, I've never drawn. This is
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: so weird. But she is super connected to aliens. So
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: it made sense. So, yeah, I mean, it's it's I
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: really one day would love to just like have a
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: spot where I just like hang out and draw spirits
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: all day. It sounds awesome. Right.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: That does sound awesome.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess I would be remiss and like having
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: this time with you and not asking if I have
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a spirit guide.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Of course you have a spirit guide. I know I
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: want to draw your spirit guide. Hey, how about I'll like,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I will, I will draw your spirit guide and send
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: it to you if you want.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: That's sweet.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, but when you're talking to people like me, like,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: is there something that you see in any conversation that
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you're having or people or, you know, things like that?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Like, again, like if I'm turning the radio up,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I can turn it up and I can tap in
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: and see what happens. I can turn it down. Yeah.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: So I could turn it up and tap in.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: So I know you have these live events coming up
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: in December.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: You're going to be in Florida. Where else are you
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: going to tell me exactly where you're going to be?
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I am, well, I'm in Richmond right now.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I'll be at Virginia beach. I'm going to be in
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: New Brunswick, New Jersey on the third bridge work, Connecticut
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: on the fifth. Uh, then I do an Ohio run.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I have, well, I have Omaha, then I have, uh, Toledo, Dayton, uh,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Liberty township, Columbus. Um, and then I'm going to be
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: in Florida in December. So I'll be in port Charlotte.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I'll be in Naples, Tampa and Orlando. And all of my, um,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Dates are posted on my website, CindyKaza.com.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: And can people request to do private readings with you
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: as well?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I don't do privates right now only because my time
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: is limited because of my travel schedule and filming schedule.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: But I can recommend one of the best mediums I know.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: His name is Anthony Marocca. He lives in Jersey. He
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: does a ton of private readings. He's so good. So
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: check him out. I always refer people to him. He's spectacular.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. Spell his last name.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: M-R-O-C-K-A. Okay.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: And I guess that's really it. We wish you the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: best of luck. I'm so excited for all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: you're doing. People can watch you on the Dead Files.
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  Speaker 1: That's on the Travel Channel. And also you can get
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  Speaker 1: it streaming on a number of different sites, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And how many more? So you've been in three episodes.
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  Speaker 2: How many more? Do you have the whole season that
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  Speaker 2: you're doing?
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  Speaker 3: So actually... now that I think about it, I've been
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  Speaker 3: in four, but the first one was tagged on to
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  Speaker 3: the end of, so I replaced Amy Allen. The first
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  Speaker 3: one is tagged on to the end of her five.
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  Speaker 3: So it's season 15. It starts at episode six and
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: then it goes to 13. So I have what, six more,
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  Speaker 3: is that right? Okay.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. And then how does that work? And then
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: how does that work?
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: You see if they'll bring you back for another season or,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you love doing this?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I love it, yeah. It's tricky right now because, you know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: the network, there's the WarnerBot discovery, there's a huge merger.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of stuff is changing. We're hoping it comes back.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: So please watch the show so it can come back.
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  Speaker 3: But they have to air all of the episodes first.
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  Speaker 3: And then after they air, then we find out if
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  Speaker 3: we get renewed. So please watch Dead Files. Tune in
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  Speaker 3: live on Travel Channel Thursdays at 10. p.m eastern standard time.
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  Speaker 1: And i will say as a new watcher it is
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: really good and now that you've confirmed that it's not
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: scripted and you're doing real sort of readings while you're
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: there and feeling your intuition that makes it even more
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  Speaker 1: interesting and i will continue to watch so thank you thank.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: You so much yeah thanks for.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Having me i wish you the best of luck and
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  Speaker 1: i can't wait to see what you do in the future.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you so.
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  Speaker 4: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: for it?
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: It's Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 4: Where?
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 6: There's an accent on the E.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Do you mean.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift? Please.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 7: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.