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- 0:01Speaker 1: When you think Chippendale's I'm guessing you're picturing muscular, oily
- 0:05Speaker 1: bohunks and spandex pants and bow ties. After hearing the podcast,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Moms and Mysteries tell the dark story behind the lucrative
- 0:14Speaker 1: and infamous brand. However, the word murder has become the
- 0:18Speaker 1: first thing that comes to my mind. The bad business
- 0:22Speaker 1: dealings and envy that fueled the Chippendale's killing is among
- 0:26Speaker 1: the three hundred plus episodes of Moms and Mysteries. On
- 0:30Speaker 1: another episode titled Based on True Events, I learned that
- 0:35Speaker 1: the movie Scream was inspired by the true crimes of
- 0:38Speaker 1: the Gainesville Ripper. Moms and Mysteries is hosted by friends
- 0:42Speaker 1: Melissa and Mandy, whose tragic tellings are matched only by
- 0:46Speaker 1: their quick wit. They balance true crime's inherent darkness with levity.
- 0:53Speaker 1: While the Chippendale's murder and Gainesville Ripper cases are highly
- 0:56Speaker 1: publicized and generally sensationalized, Mandy and Melissa also take a
- 1:02Speaker 1: compassionate look at many lesser known, unsolved crimes, where they
- 1:06Speaker 1: help get the word out and share ways everyone can
- 1:09Speaker 1: become more involved. So, however, you like your true crime podcasts,
- 1:15Speaker 1: whether it's getting through the uncomfortable with a little humor,
- 1:18Speaker 1: never at the expense of victims, or something more serious
- 1:22Speaker 1: that might include an important call to action. Moms and Mysteries.
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- 1:54Speaker 2: So if there's one thing that I really don't understand,
- 1:56Speaker 2: it's the life of an Ivy League student. I am
- 1:59Speaker 2: neither smart enough nor rich enough to have ever had
- 2:02Speaker 2: to think about fitting in at a place like Yale,
- 2:05Speaker 2: and sometimes I kind of do wish I was, because
- 2:07Speaker 2: I feel like I missed out on some of the
- 2:09Speaker 2: really amazing traditions there, like the annual Halloween concert put
- 2:13Speaker 2: on by the Yale Symphony Orchestra, which sounds absolutely lovely,
- 2:16Speaker 2: and the excitement of a game of bladder ball, which
- 2:19Speaker 2: sounds kind of funny.
- 2:21Speaker 3: It feels like a game you play when you're pregnant,
- 2:24Speaker 3: like near the end of pregnant, feel like you're always
- 2:26Speaker 3: playing bladder ball.
- 2:27Speaker 2: It absolutely does. This game actually ended in nineteen eighty two,
- 2:30Speaker 2: but it was pretty interesting. So this is a game
- 2:33Speaker 2: that Yale students would play once a year at eleven
- 2:36Speaker 2: am on the Saturday before the Yale Dartmouth football game.
- 2:40Speaker 2: So basically, they would inflate a six foot ball, think
- 2:44Speaker 2: like giant beach ball. Or they actually would call it
- 2:47Speaker 2: a bladder which makes me even more just im so confused.
- 2:51Speaker 2: I can't call it a bladder. It's a ball. It
- 2:53Speaker 2: looks like a beach ball. But they would inflate this
- 2:56Speaker 2: giant ball, and then there were teams that were made
- 2:59Speaker 2: up of the various on campus organizations like the campus
- 3:02Speaker 2: radio station, the campus magazine, etc. And these teams would
- 3:06Speaker 2: use any means necessary to gain control of this giant
- 3:10Speaker 2: six foot ball. So eventually, though, this event got way
- 3:13Speaker 2: too unruly as you can imagine, due to students drinking
- 3:16Speaker 2: alcohol before they would play, and after several years it
- 3:20Speaker 2: devolved into more of an annual disaster that included trampling, vandalism,
- 3:25Speaker 2: and many injuries. So the administration finally put an end
- 3:30Speaker 2: to this and banned the event, almost thirty years after
- 3:33Speaker 2: the tradition started. But it was on the day of
- 3:36Speaker 2: this event in nineteen seventy four that Bonnie Garland first
- 3:40Speaker 2: met Richard Herron, and since they met at Yale, it
- 3:42Speaker 2: goes without saying that these two were both cut from
- 3:45Speaker 2: a different cloth. Bonnie was born in New York in
- 3:48Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven. She was the first child to her parents,
- 3:51Speaker 2: Paul and Joan, who eventually had three more kids. Bonnie's
- 3:55Speaker 2: dad was a Yale graduate who finished second in his
- 3:58Speaker 2: class after writing his thesis on Spanish intellectual history before
- 4:02Speaker 2: heading off to Harvard Law School, which he eventually graduated from.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Paul was very interested in South American culture, so after
- 4:10Speaker 2: law school he moved to Brazil, where he started a
- 4:12Speaker 2: law firm that soon grew to employ fifty attorneys. Bonnie's mom, Joan,
- 4:18Speaker 2: was also well educated, having earned a master's degree from
- 4:21Speaker 2: Sarah Lawrence and Human Genetics and later earning a second
- 4:24Speaker 2: master's in social work at Columbia. Bonnie spent most of
- 4:28Speaker 2: her younger years growing up in Brazil, which helped her
- 4:31Speaker 2: become multi lingual. She spoke English, Spanish, and two other
- 4:36Speaker 2: languages when she was a teenager, her family relocated to
- 4:40Speaker 2: Virginia and she started going to the prestigious Madeira School,
- 4:44Speaker 2: which we actually have mentioned on the podcast before. We've
- 4:47Speaker 2: mentioned this school in a previous episode about I believe
- 4:51Speaker 2: his name was Herman Tarnauer, so we actually have mentioned
- 4:54Speaker 2: this school before. So when it came up in this one,
- 4:55Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I recognized that school.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Nice job.
- 4:58Speaker 2: But yes, but this is an elite day and boarding college.
- 5:02Speaker 2: It's a prep school for girls only. So that is
- 5:05Speaker 2: where Bonnie was attending school when she was a teenager.
- 5:09Speaker 2: The family later moved to Scarsdale, New York, which is
- 5:12Speaker 2: just outside of New York City. They lived in a
- 5:15Speaker 2: sprawling tutor home in the wealthy area of Fox Hollow.
- 5:19Speaker 2: In the spring of nineteen seventy four, Bonnie graduated from
- 5:22Speaker 2: the prep school and started her first semester at Yale
- 5:25Speaker 2: That same fall. She majored in music and took private
- 5:29Speaker 2: voice lessons and sang in the glee club and several
- 5:32Speaker 2: other singing groups. Less than two months after she started
- 5:36Speaker 2: going to Yale, Bonnie met Richard Herron, who was a senior.
- 5:41Speaker 2: On November first, nineteen seventy four, Richard and a friend
- 5:44Speaker 2: of his went to see a Beatles movie and on
- 5:47Speaker 2: the way home, they decided to recreate a scene from
- 5:50Speaker 2: Let It Be and serenade bladderball players from the roof
- 5:54Speaker 2: of Saybrook College, which is still part of Yale. So
- 5:57Speaker 2: at around two am, Bonnie and some of her friends
- 6:00Speaker 2: walked by Robert and his buddy and they decided to
- 6:02Speaker 2: join in the fun and start singing with them. Well,
- 6:05Speaker 2: Bonnie and Richard started getting really close and they were
- 6:08Speaker 2: singing in Unison, and their friends that were there said,
- 6:11Speaker 2: the sparks just flew and it was a magical moment.
- 6:14Speaker 2: From that point on, Bonnie and rich were an item.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Unlike Bonnie, Richard didn't grow up in the lap of luxury,
- 6:22Speaker 3: but he was extremely intelligent, with an IQ of one
- 6:25Speaker 3: hundred and fifty, which we still don't know our IQs,
- 6:27Speaker 3: but I guarantee, speaking for myself, mine is not anywhere
- 6:32Speaker 3: close through that.
- 6:33Speaker 2: So.
- 6:33Speaker 3: He was the son of a Mexican mother and an
- 6:35Speaker 3: Irish father who actually abandoned the family when Richard was
- 6:38Speaker 3: just three years old. His mom later went on to remarry.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Richard grew up in la and he went to Lincoln
- 6:45Speaker 3: High School, where he played football. And basketball, and was
- 6:48Speaker 3: a leader in student government. He was always pleasant, to
- 6:51Speaker 3: the point that no one ever saw him angry. He
- 6:53Speaker 3: really wasn't the type to be involved in drama or
- 6:56Speaker 3: in fights. He spent his summers and weekends helping out
- 6:59Speaker 3: in his stepdad swapshop, and he went to Mass with
- 7:02Speaker 3: his mom every Sunday at seven am. Richard was a
- 7:05Speaker 3: valedictorian of his high school graduating class of four hundred
- 7:08Speaker 3: and fifteen students. He applied for Yale along with eighty
- 7:13Speaker 3: six hundred and eighty one other students who applied that year,
- 7:16Speaker 3: and he was only one of oneenty nineteen men accepted.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Not only was he accepted, but he went to Yale
- 7:23Speaker 3: on scholarship. When he entered the program, he began studying geology. However,
- 7:28Speaker 3: something changed when Richard started going to college. His academic
- 7:32Speaker 3: performance took a downturn, and in the four years at
- 7:35Speaker 3: Yale he only earned one A. But that didn't really
- 7:38Speaker 3: seem to bother him. Which seems like a big difference
- 7:41Speaker 3: from high school valedictorian to now barely you know, getting
- 7:45Speaker 3: one A Andrew at this college on scholarship, that seems
- 7:49Speaker 3: like a huge difference. Yeah, but Richard told his friends, quote,
- 7:53Speaker 3: I'm a geology major. There's no one less competitive at
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yale than a geo major, and I'm a C student
- 7:59Speaker 3: in geology end quote. But it's not that Richard was
- 8:02Speaker 3: just blowing off academics. It was just that he had
- 8:05Speaker 3: other things. He wanted to spend his time and energy on,
- 8:08Speaker 3: things like intramural sports, Catholicism, the Chicano group on campus,
- 8:12Speaker 3: and playing his guitar, watching midnight horror movies and lazy
- 8:16Speaker 3: brunch dates with his friends. Making the best grades in
- 8:19Speaker 3: the class just wasn't a top priority. It was during
- 8:22Speaker 3: the fall of his senior year of nineteen seventy four
- 8:25Speaker 3: when he met seventeen year old Bonnie. The relationship became
- 8:29Speaker 3: serious almost immediately. Bonnie was really smitten with Richard. He
- 8:34Speaker 3: was tall, handsome, musical, athletic, and really fun to be around.
- 8:38Speaker 3: On top of that, he adored her, and he told
- 8:40Speaker 3: her so all the time. It was really a change
- 8:43Speaker 3: of piece for Bonnie compared to the boys she had
- 8:45Speaker 3: grown up knowing. Bonnie's parents, however, weren't such big fans
- 8:50Speaker 3: of Richard. After meeting him for the first time, Bonnie's
- 8:53Speaker 3: dad described him as a quote, slovenly in appearance, slovenly
- 8:57Speaker 3: in manners, difficult to talk to, and physically unattracted. Tell
- 9:01Speaker 3: us how you really feel, dad.
- 9:03Speaker 2: No kidding, I'm just like I feel like that's such
- 9:05Speaker 2: a dad straightforward, like straight right, that's how your dad
- 9:09Speaker 2: feels about this guy.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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