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Ohio State vs. Texas: Is Arch Manning Ready For The Buckeye Defense? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, August fourteenth,
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  Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to be welcoming in one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite guests every single year. He is Brett
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  Speaker 1: siancea of Pick six previews. This is one of these
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  Speaker 1: I'm not just the president and also a client kind
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  Speaker 1: of moments where I don't just have him on. I
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  Speaker 1: buy this magazine every single year. I go to it.
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  Speaker 1: I wear it out over the course of the season. Brett,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Tom, thanks for that intro, Thanks for coming on
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  Speaker 2: board again for twenty twenty five. And yeah, I always
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  Speaker 2: look forward to our annual chat here breaking down the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to say congrats to the Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: listeners out there on the national title. You know it
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  Speaker 2: was a long time coming. They've been close to the
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  Speaker 2: last decade, but to finally breakthrough pretty cool to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I was out in Columbus for the first time time,
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  Speaker 2: my first time, I should say for Nebraska Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: and great game looking back on it, that would have
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  Speaker 2: shifted everything at Nebraska came up on more score, but
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  Speaker 2: now got to see Columbus. It's one of the special
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  Speaker 2: places in college football. And don't want to wait too
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  Speaker 2: long to get back there. So good luck and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to break it down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah boy, I don't know how many people walking out
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  Speaker 1: of the stadium that day would have talked about that
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  Speaker 1: being a great game, but it was an important one ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: and they sort of figured out from there they needed
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  Speaker 1: to do on that offensive line. So yeah, all's well.
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  Speaker 1: That ends well for the twenty twenty four buck guys.
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  Speaker 1: And now for the twenty twenty five buck Eyes. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost a question of you know, ollswell that starts well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess for either Ohio State or Texas, And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would assume that the Ohio State fans have a
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  Speaker 1: decent idea what to expect from Ohio State. If you
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  Speaker 1: have any thoughts on the buck Eyes that are you know,
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  Speaker 1: really outside what I think the broad consensus is definitely
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  Speaker 1: let us know, But really, to me, I think the
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  Speaker 1: first thing I want to talk about is the Texas Longhorns,
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  Speaker 1: because Ohio State just saw them down and the Cotton
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  Speaker 1: Bowl down in Dallas Fort Worth back in January, and
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  Speaker 1: now they're starting the season with what is either a
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  Speaker 1: one versus two or a one versus three or a
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  Speaker 1: two versus three if you, depending on who you want
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  Speaker 1: to look at it matchup. What are your expectations for
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  Speaker 1: that game, because that feels like that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely well, it was a heck of a Final Four game,
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  Speaker 2: and of course I'm sure Texas fans are still seeing
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  Speaker 2: nightmares of Jack Sawyer stripping the ball from yours and
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  Speaker 2: going down ninety yards down the sideline, So they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: want revenge and they're gonna have to come take it
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  Speaker 2: in Columbus here at noon kickoff. I know we all
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  Speaker 2: wish it was primetime for such a special occasion, but
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  Speaker 2: nonetheless a great season opener if you're going off the
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  Speaker 2: coaches poll, it's the first ever one versus two season
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  Speaker 2: opener in college football history. Now you know, the AP
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  Speaker 2: dropped the highest data spot but nonetheless one of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest openers of all time. So I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: see it. And what you're going to have in this
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  Speaker 2: game are two of the best recruiters in the game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know that Ohio State sent a school
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  Speaker 2: record fourteen draft picks to the p but Texas also
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  Speaker 2: sent a bunch too. Five starters off their defense were
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  Speaker 2: drafted and four of their offensive linemen are gone, not
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  Speaker 2: to mention losing a receiver. So both teams are rebuilding, reloading,
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  Speaker 2: but they're backfilling it with some of the best talent
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  Speaker 2: in the country. I mean, Ohio State number three in
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  Speaker 2: the five year recruiting average, Texas number four, So I
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  Speaker 2: mean you have blue chippers all over the place. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just put together what I call advanced rosters, and
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  Speaker 2: basically it's just a visual look at the too deep,
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  Speaker 2: you know, labeling who's a five star, who's a four star.
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  Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of green on the page signifying
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  Speaker 2: four star, five star for these two teams, So real quick.
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  Speaker 2: With Texas, I think the areas that you can try
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  Speaker 2: and expose are a young, new look offensive line, four
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  Speaker 2: starters gone, So maybe the Ohigo State D line can
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  Speaker 2: tee off on that and then their secondary loses a lot.
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  Speaker 2: They lose the Thorpe winner with JADEB Barron gone and
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  Speaker 2: a couple other starters, So maybe pick on that secondary.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a quick view of it, but going to
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  Speaker 2: be strength on strength, two blue blood programs going at it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have done podcasting long enough to know that
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  Speaker 1: if I can put arch Manning's name in the title,
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  Speaker 1: we can probably get a bunch of extra clicks on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube and on your podcast platform of choice. So let's
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about arch Manning. This is a
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  Speaker 1: game where your Ohio State has not officially announced its
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback, but the broad expectation is that it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be Julian Say And who is one of those
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  Speaker 1: former five star recruits that you were talking about. Arch
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  Speaker 1: Manning is the other one on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. You know he's going to be Texas's starter.
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  Speaker 1: We saw him a little bit last year. He played
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  Speaker 1: a little bit in the Cotton Bowl, played a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of snap here or there in the SEC Championship
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  Speaker 1: game in some of the earlier CFP games, but really
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  Speaker 1: really didn't throw the ball much the back half of
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  Speaker 1: the season, So I know there are people who view
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  Speaker 1: him as an absolute sure thing. Where do you view
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  Speaker 1: him where? What are your expectations for arch Manning this
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  Speaker 1: season and especially in that first game on the road
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  Speaker 1: in Columbus.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty off domistic about him. We saw him at
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  Speaker 2: times last year. I know it wasn't anything any critical situations,
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  Speaker 2: but he had a couple starts back in September, got
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  Speaker 2: some series here and there, and his stats were decent.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was a high ten point four yards
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  Speaker 2: per attempt a QB rating that was on pace with
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  Speaker 2: the leaders in the SEC. And again, small sample size,
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  Speaker 2: but you're comparing that against Julian Sayan or Lincoln Clientholts,
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  Speaker 2: who have very small sample sizes as well, if not
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  Speaker 2: zero in the case of Sion. But but yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: with arch Manning, I mean, we can't crown him the
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  Speaker 2: Heisman all of a sudden. I see, he's the leader
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  Speaker 2: in the preseason Heisman odds. Keep in mind that the
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  Speaker 2: leader in the preseason Heisman odds, they have not won
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  Speaker 2: the award in the last ten years, so don't put
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  Speaker 2: too much stock in that. I think he'll be solid
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  Speaker 2: and I think that he does bring some to the
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  Speaker 2: short yardage game. I say that because Texas really struggled
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  Speaker 2: in the short yardage. Again, we'll go back to that
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  Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer first and goal from the one. You got
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  Speaker 2: to be able to punch that in. But I think
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  Speaker 2: with Manning with his legs, I think is going to
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  Speaker 2: be an addition to them in short yardage at the
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  Speaker 2: goal line and some third downs where he kentucky and run.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't get that from yours, So you are going
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  Speaker 2: to get a dual threat ability with Arch. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the reason I'm drawn to Texas is really it's partly Arch,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a lot of the rest of the roster.
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  Speaker 2: Like we said, top recruiters, a lot of mock NFL
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  Speaker 2: draft picks for next year. So yeah, a lot to
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  Speaker 2: like around them, So it's not just the Arch story.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned some of the diverging rankings among Texas
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  Speaker 1: and Ohio State, and are they won two, are they
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  Speaker 1: won three? The consensus obviously is these are two of
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  Speaker 1: the very best teams in the country. You have them
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  Speaker 1: two three, and that's because you've got Penn State number one,
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  Speaker 1: and I can certainly look at twenty twenty three Michigan
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  Speaker 1: and the sort of pattern that they followed in terms
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  Speaker 1: of bringing back a bunch of guys who could have
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  Speaker 1: gone to the NFL Draft and riding that to a
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  Speaker 1: national championship in the Ohio State following the same formula
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  Speaker 1: last year. It definitely feels like if it's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen for Penn State, they sort of are using that
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  Speaker 1: same formula this year, and it feels like if it's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen for James Franklin at Penn State, this
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  Speaker 1: would be the year it would happen.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Penn State enters as my number one team, not
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  Speaker 2: only in the Big Ten, but my pick nationally as
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  Speaker 2: number one. A lot to like you hit on some
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  Speaker 2: key points there, very veteran. You know, you look in
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  Speaker 2: January when players are deciding to go pro or come back.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they lost Abdul Carter.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing all defensive end went number three overall, but
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  Speaker 2: aside from that, most guys are back. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: mid to late round draft grades decided to come back.
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  Speaker 2: Run it back one last year in state college on offense,
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  Speaker 2: Drew Aller, I know that he his last throw of
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  Speaker 2: the season is what everyone remembers, but still a pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid statistical year. He's drawing first round grades. The two
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  Speaker 2: five star running backs in the backfield, Singleton and Allen.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a Sammy Sosa Mark McGuire type
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  Speaker 2: deal because they're both going to be chasing the all
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  Speaker 2: time Penn State rushing record in November if they keep
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  Speaker 2: up this pace. So that's something, you know, storyline within
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  Speaker 2: the storyline. But yeah, they've got all the fundamentals. The
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  Speaker 2: offensive line is stacked, the defense is stacked. And what
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  Speaker 2: drew to Penn State even further is the brain power
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  Speaker 2: at coordinator this time around. And everyone can critique James Franklin,
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  Speaker 2: but he's got Cotolnecki calling the offense who did it
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  Speaker 2: at Kansas, and then Jim Knowles, a guy obviously the
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  Speaker 2: listeners here are familiar with really a defensive genius. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: it might take an extra year for that defense to
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  Speaker 2: get installed. I know there was some critique about that,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot to like from the brain power of
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  Speaker 2: the coordinators. And the last note on Penn State is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I look back at when they are favored,
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  Speaker 2: when they have the talent advantage, which I think will
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  Speaker 2: be every game outside of Columbus. They are number one
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  Speaker 2: in the country the last three years against the spread
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  Speaker 2: as the favorite seventy four percent covering, and then straight
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  Speaker 2: up as the favorite the last three years thirty four
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  Speaker 2: and two. So Franklin, to his credit, when he is favored,
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  Speaker 2: when he has the talent, he does really well taking
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  Speaker 2: care of business. So I see at least eleven and
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  Speaker 2: one for them, And yeah, this is a little one
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  Speaker 2: year opportunity for them because you catch Ohio State in
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  Speaker 2: Oregon and a little bit of a transitional period. I
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  Speaker 2: mean Ohio State sending fourteen draft picks and Oregon looking
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  Speaker 2: really young but talented.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's a one year window for Penn
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  Speaker 3: State to strike.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's move on to everyone in Columbus's second favorite team,
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  Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverines. This is another intriguing year where they
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  Speaker 1: had it. You know, they had the big step back
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  Speaker 1: year last year after they lost all those guys to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, and you know, it looked like they were
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  Speaker 1: going to have a completely lost season and then ended
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  Speaker 1: up winning their last three games to go from five
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  Speaker 1: and five to eight and five, and you know, really
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  Speaker 1: really changed the trajectory of several teams seasons, including Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: what are you expecting from this from the Wolverines this year?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know Bryce Underwood is an immensely talented quarterback, Bud,
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  Speaker 1: He's a true freshman quarterback, and that's always a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a you know, there's always a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a sort of pause in your sentence there when
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  Speaker 1: you get to it. There's an immensely talented true freshman quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and they have They've lost a lot of talent, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of very talented players that midd the defensive line
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  Speaker 1: and some other spots as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so looking back on Michigan last year, they had
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  Speaker 2: the strong defense, but the offense was just completely broken,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the worst in college football quarterback
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  Speaker 2: spot mostly to blame. They go out They signed the
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  Speaker 2: number one overall to be the number one overall prospect
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  Speaker 2: in Bryce Underwood. So all their trips, all their trips
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  Speaker 2: are on Bryce Underwood because I don't see much depth
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  Speaker 2: behind him. Some reports out of spring ball and then
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  Speaker 2: out of fall camp seems like a pretty empty roster spot.
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  Speaker 2: They went and signed Jake Garcia as an insurance policy,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't really know what they have there, So
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  Speaker 2: it's still a question for me at quarterback. The reason
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  Speaker 2: I still have Michigan in my national top twenty is
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  Speaker 2: all about that defense again. And I know they lost
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  Speaker 2: some draft picks, but they really backfield again. They're continuing
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  Speaker 2: to recruit that side of the ball. The linebacking pair
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  Speaker 2: is one of the best in the country. And then
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing for you. The Senior Bowl such a
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  Speaker 2: the East West Shrine Bowl, they put out a one
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  Speaker 2: thousand player list and what that is is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: every cycle, you have about two hundred and fifty draft
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  Speaker 2: picks and then another seven hundred and fifty players that
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  Speaker 2: are either free agents or invited to rookie mini camp,
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  Speaker 2: so basically an extended NFL draft watch list. They've got
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  Speaker 2: ten starters on their defense on the watch list for
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  Speaker 2: next year's draft, so it is loaded again on defense.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm sticking with them in the top twenty.
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  Speaker 2: But the offense does remain a question, especially a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: It's so hard to come in as a true freshman.
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  Speaker 2: Think back to last year. The eighteen year old true
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  Speaker 2: freshmans that started it was really Rayola. I think Aiden Chiles,
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  Speaker 2: he might have been a red shirt that's within the
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  Speaker 2: Big ten foot print. But then you got to go nationally.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe DJ Lagway. He only played a couple of games.
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  Speaker 2: He was solid, but was injured. So it's really hard.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a rare sample size to come in
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  Speaker 2: as an eighteen year old, especially at one of these.
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  Speaker 3: Blue blood programs.
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  Speaker 2: So it still remains a question on that side.
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  Speaker 1: Before I was going to ask you about Illinois, but
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned Oregon earlier. So I do want to hit
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  Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks real quickly because it feels like they
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  Speaker 1: were one of those teams that you could have looked
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  Speaker 1: at last year and said this is their year, and
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  Speaker 1: they certainly went through most of the year with it
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  Speaker 1: looking like their year. They beat Ohio State by one
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  Speaker 1: at home, they win the Big Ten and of the
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  Speaker 1: CFP as the number one seed, and then I think
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  Speaker 1: everyone who's probably watching this knows exactly what happened out
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  Speaker 1: in Pasady into California. Is this a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a step back year for the Ducks? And if so,
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  Speaker 1: how big a step back? Because it feels like this
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  Speaker 1: is a program that at this point may be talented
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  Speaker 1: enough that they are still in the college football playoff picture,
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  Speaker 1: even if it is a little bit of a step
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  Speaker 1: back season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, The Oregon discussion is really fascinating because last year
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  Speaker 2: and this year it's all about the playoff structure. And
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  Speaker 2: now I say that because last year they went thirteen
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  Speaker 2: to zero. I mean they were the only team undefeated
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  Speaker 2: when all the dust settled there. They were the team
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  Speaker 2: the prior one hundred and thirty years of college football,
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  Speaker 2: they would have either been playing in the Rose Bowl
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  Speaker 2: with a win and in you know, if you win
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  Speaker 2: the Rosebowl, you're a national champion, or being that one
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  Speaker 2: versus two BCS title game, So that would have or
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  Speaker 2: could have been their first national title school history. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: it times up with the twelve team or back into
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  Speaker 2: that bracket, they run into an NFL machine Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: and we all know what happened there. So it hurt
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  Speaker 2: them last year. The playoff structure, now I will say
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  Speaker 2: it actually benefits them this year coming around because it's
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  Speaker 2: a very young team, it's a very talented team. I
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  Speaker 2: don't see them going twelve and zero. So again, in
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  Speaker 2: the old system, there's no way this is a national
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  Speaker 2: title contender. But in a twelve team bracket, I see
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  Speaker 2: them going something like ten and two, probably losing that
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  Speaker 2: white out at Penn State and maybe dropping another game somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: but still making the bracket as a ten and two
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  Speaker 2: at large. And now when you're talking twelve thirteen, fourteen
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  Speaker 2: games in, they're going to be a lot more experienced.
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  Speaker 2: They're no longer the young team. They're just a really
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  Speaker 2: talented team. So I see them rounding into form come
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  Speaker 2: bracket time and being a tough out in that bracket.
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  Speaker 2: And I put this in the book, and it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I was on Oregon Radio and I dropped this. I said,
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  Speaker 2: Oregon's my national title pick. I paused way too long.
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  Speaker 2: I said, in twenty twenty six, I think next year
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  Speaker 2: is the year for them. They're really building towards that.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll leave you with this is that when you
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  Speaker 2: look at recruiting ranks and the transfer ranks, if you
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  Speaker 2: do it per player, you know, look at the average
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  Speaker 2: rating per player, Oregon was actually number one in the
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  Speaker 2: high school ranks and number one on the transfer portal
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  Speaker 2: last year. So a new caliber of athlete is coming
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  Speaker 2: up to Eugene. It might take till twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 2: the cash in, but they are they're rebuilding quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they feel like they might be the next one
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  Speaker 1: on that Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon. Potential cycle
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  Speaker 1: there of teams where oldest stars are potentially aligning. There
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you win. Lots of teams that thought they
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  Speaker 1: maybe had a chance last year that didn't end up winning.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, certainly, certainly in that conversation. One team that
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  Speaker 1: feels like it's in the conversation for the CFP, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at least in terms of getting in this year. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: sort of the Indiana role from twenty twenty four is Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: They're a team that won ten games last year, including
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  Speaker 1: the Bowl win over South Carolina. And I was thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder where Brett has them predicting the Big ten
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  Speaker 1: and aging through and it's no, not first, not second,
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  Speaker 1: not third, And you keep going, you keep going. Well,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: you have them thirty second in the nation among the
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Power five teams and well outside of the College Football
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Playoff picture. And I read the reasoning and I thought, oh, yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: you know what, that makes a lot of sense. So
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: why are you maybe not quite as ready to crown
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Brett Beilama a College Football Playoff participant, as a lot
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: of other folks.
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  Speaker 2: Are well every year doing the preview magazine I always
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: upset a couple fan bases, and this year I'm not
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: making many friends in Champagne, Illinois, that's for sure.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, here's the deal.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Last year it was a special season. My hat's off
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: to Brett Bielima. He grinded out ten wins with this roster,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of one score games against some bad opponents.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Though you're looking at fifty to forty nine win over Purdue,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: they survived against the worst team in the country. You know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: one score games against Rutgers Northwestern was a ten pointer,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Brett Nebraska was a touchdown, Kansas with a touchdown, So
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: you know, long story short. When I look at my
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: advanced metrics advanced stats, this did not look like a
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: ten win team at all. You're looking at a bottom ten, sorry,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: bottom ten defense for my adjusted numbers, about middle of
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: the pack offense, and then the game greader. Last year,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: my overall formula thirty fifth out of sixty eight, below
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  Speaker 2: average in the Power four. So that is a serious
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: red flag if I'm trying to project forward to twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five, and the counter is always, hey, they returned
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: twenty starters, that's great, But I think that this roster
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: with those same starters. I think they already peaked last year.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much more you could get out
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: of them win loss wise. So with a tougher schedule draw,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I see them going something like seven and five, eight
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: and four, and that would project them in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the pack in the Big Ten.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I've got them ninth in the Big Ten.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And you mentioned thirty second nationally, so I see a
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: big step back in the win loss column, and you
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: know it's going against the grain.
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  Speaker 3: The coaches poll have them twelve. I've got them ninth
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: in the Big Ten.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Those are always the really interesting ones where you're
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an outlier on someone and you're
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: either going to look real smart or other people are
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: going to look real smart later in the year.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: What are you know? Is there another program or two
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that you're either much higher on than the national consensus
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: or maybe much lower on, whether that's in the Big
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: ten or anywhere in the country.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this Big twelve is pretty fascinating. I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: you saw media days. Their coaches did a poll and
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: they picked Kansas State versus Iowa State as their projected
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: championship game in the Big Twelve. In the book here,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I've got them outside my top five in the conference.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I have Kansas State six, Iowa State seventh in that conference.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: That's how wide open it is.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Team.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty high ons Texas Tech, and of course they
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: were one of the storylines of the offseason. They rallied
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: up all their their boosters, their alumni, all that oil
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: money out in West Texas. They went and signed the
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: number one transfer class in the country and they signed
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: twelve Blue Chippers this cycle. That's more than the rest
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of the Big Twelve combined. So I think you have
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a serious talent infusion there in Lubbock, and that's going
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to be enough in a tight conference to get them
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to the title game, the Big Twelve title game. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: higher on Texas Tech. Additionally, higher on Baylor and TCU
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: than most I saw the AP came out and neither
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Baylor nor TCU or ranked. I've got them both ranked
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and really competing for a Big Twelve as well. So
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I see kind of the power returning to the state
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: of Texas with the event within that conference, along with
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Arizona State.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: So I would give you those two. We're selling Illinois
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: big time.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: We talked about that selling SMU that's a team everyone
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: has contending for the ACC. I don't see it special
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: run last year. But if you're looking at recruiting trends,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: transfer trends, they don't really stack up. So I'm selling
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: them outside my top twenty five. So those are some outliers.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And yeah, those are the interesting cases. But it's a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: wide open field in the Big twelve, wide open nationally,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you could argue probably ten teams to win the national title,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: which is fun.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be. It should be a really fun year,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a great time too. I will once again give it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a plug. Pick six Previews there is every single year.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Let people know where they can get a copy. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: also I just got an email in my inbox that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by about Pick six plus. Let people know
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: about that as well.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much, Tom. Again, I'll always love our chat.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: In the preseason, we got to see how the shakes
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: out come on November and December, see how I stood
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: with the predictions. But yeah, the magazine, it's Pick Sixpreviews
• 19:15
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• 19:18
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• 19:19
  Speaker 3: What it is, it's a one man show. It's me.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I'm doing all sixty eight Power four teams. The claim
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to fame is that over the last ten years and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the last five year intervals, I'm the number one great
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: prediction magazine in the country. So you know, the accuracy
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: title is there, talking to head coaches, talking to coordinators.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Putting it into a readable format. I think it's important too.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: No acronyms, no abbreviations, no jargon.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: It's it's readable.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You know you're going to learn about every program in here,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: so courage you go check that out. We have it
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: as a digital product and the hard copy magazine that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Tom just showed off their spiral bound which everyone loves,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and yeah.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought that up with Pick six plus.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So everything you love from the preview magazine and more
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: is now going to be coming in season. So the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: idea is that every Tuesday from Week one through the playoffs,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: it'll hit your email inbox. Every team has a page
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and it's got everything. It's got all my advanced stats,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: all my numbers, but then also more of the against
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the spread stuff, you know, game logs, situational splits, how
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: a team is as a favorite, how they are off
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: a buy, you know, any kind of angles that way,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: my game, greater formula projection for a line, you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: predictions that way, talent profiles, schedules, everything you could ask for.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Because I find that once the season kicks off, it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: sixty games all at once. I have like sixty tabs
• 20:36
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• 20:39
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• 20:41
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• 20:44
  Speaker 3: You can find all the relevant info.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, go check out a sample there. Pick sixpreviews
• 20:48
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• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I've got in there to check it out, So yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: thanks for bringing that up. I'm really excited to launch it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: All right, So there you go, pick Sixpreviews dot Com
• 20:58
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• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you do check that out because it is a product
• 21:04
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• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and if I can't find it, it's usually because my
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: twelve year old son has taken it and is deep
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: doing a deep dive on some team in the mountain
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in the Big twelve over the acc or whatever it is.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So really appreciate Brett coming on and giving us a
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: little bit of national insight on where things stand with
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: some of the teams on the Buckeye schedule and some
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: teams of interest for the Buckeyes. You're gonna have plenty
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: more to talk about about that and everything else as
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: we count down the days to that Texas game. You
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: can do that all at buckeyehuddle dot com. That's where
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: we have our whole team of insiders covering the Buckeyes,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: covering recruitering, covering x's and o's, and much more.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: You can find it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: All at Buckeye huddle dot com. That'll do it for today.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys all for joining us.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Have a great day.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.