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Workplace Wisdom You Wish You Knew Sooner - Ep. 137 w/ Brandi Thee Millennial Manager · Black Fridays: Business Growth for Entrepreneurs, Creators & Professionals

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the best people that go into management have no desire to do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like those are the ones that end up being the best managers, because the people who want to do it want to do it for a selfish reason.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just some people that what they have, or that's what they want, because they don't have power in their real life.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Put up the Black Friday family and welcome back to another installment of the Black Friday's podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Before we get into today's episode, I need you to go smash that like button, hit that subscribe button, share some videos, drop some comments.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And so we can continue to keep this thing going.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Now that I got that out of the way, I got your favorite millennial manager in the building, Miss Brandy, how you doing today?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, how good are you?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing pretty well.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks a lot on this on the podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely my pleasure.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: For sure.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So the millennial manager, could you give us a little bit of insight into your world as to how does one become a social media viral sensation in the corporate space?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when I block folk, I've always done that even before like I started making content.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I block people, I block a mom and a daddy because then I take the time to do it, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't want to see you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my social media, I see you at work.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see you.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So you don't, you don't play that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Follow me on social media.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We friends on Facebook and we're together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because we are not friends.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We are coworkers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a team.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We come here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do our job.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we leave.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk to you after I'm.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy my job because I feel like I separate those things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's how I've been able to kind of maneuver and really under the radar because no one really, I do well at my job.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I never talk about it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And how did you become to be the viral sensation of the millennial manager in the sense of how did you decide to take the experiences that you went through your professional career at work and then be able to generate that and turn that into content as a content creator on social platforms and on a pop fellow podcast as well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it started because I was just at work and it's just like a joke.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you run a late, you know, make sure you bring Brady a coffee or get a hash brand.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a joke bed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A couple of my team members have, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was at work and during that trend last year, it was like, I'm a, you know, millennia manager.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course I, whatever, whatever the trend was that people were saying, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just took some of my team.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: communicates you know about me as their manager and I made a video and the video went viral and went like to I want to say like eight internet million views and I was like you know what
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  [SPEAKER_01]: got a good topic here, because first of all, I enjoy being a manager.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I love the work.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I love my team members.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I really enjoy working with them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have, you know, doctors that I work with that are just awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I got lucky with the doctors, because it could be a game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When you're working with so many different personalities, but everybody has been really great.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I just apply some of those things that I have learned over time and being in the management and putting on social media.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So many things that I practice at work.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: nice.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And in terms of the, this is probably played into T.O.V.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: at Rality, but you're very much yourself in terms of your content.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And you would think that talking about different corporate topics, work topics being a manager, you would be like more button up, but you, you give it raw and real in terms of your content.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So where does that come from in terms of letting your personality out in that way?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: In terms of talking about, you know, corporate American can be so stuffy and uptight, but what made you bring that flavor to your content?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's just what people can digest.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think I've learned over time that certain things can be communicated, even if it's a hard truth that somebody has to kind of receive is the delivery that can make a difference.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I just kind of seeing what a lot of these people are doing online, where everything is very like, okay, this is how you, you know, level up in the C-suite and somewhere that was like corporate America is not like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: one hundred percent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a fraction of corporate America that look like me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, they're my age group.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not that serious millennials.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, okay, how do I speak to these people?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to talk to them just like I would talk to them regular, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I kiss in my regular conversation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's just how I communicate.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I add those little words in there, you know, local for language and people think it's funny, but it's like,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You very, very serious.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's just how I just kind of paid attention to how people can receive information and try to apply it that way.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that it's digestible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You make it funny, relatable, and people eat it up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You just gotta be honest.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, be yourself.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's one thing that people struggle with online is they have like an online personality, which is like, that's just why I am period.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So if people are struggling with that, you just need to be yourself.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: fact, you know, that's why I love when I get a corporate environment and like I be in a meeting or something somebody you drop a customer and I'm like, all right, now we now we talk a little bit.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know exactly what happens to you right and like, and I work with a bunch of me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they could they let it fly.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a lot of
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  [SPEAKER_01]: color for work and they are not you know apologetic about the way that they talk and I feel like that has also contributed to my confidence level because I work with me and I'm like I'm moving like these men do right they talk like this I'm not any different and they also has led to me being successful with the company and managing five practices and you know really growing within and being able to kind of you know just
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  [SPEAKER_01]: move like they move and realize that I don't have to change the way I talk or, you know, change the way that I'm communicating something for me to be accepted.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I just need to be myself.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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• 9:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, if you got any free style for us, are you on the same, do some poetry, you know, we can do that or you can do the rapid fire questions.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I can not wrap my day.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: For sure.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can wrap to a song.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I already exist.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's not my name.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: You're not coming up with the bars.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, so we're going to start with speaking of bars and music when you're driving to work, you making that commute to work.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: What are you listening to?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got on repeat right now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I say, that's my girl.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love you guys.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They like Ben is that is my favorite artist.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I've seen her twice in a concert at the Renaissance here in Fort Field in Detroit.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we drove to Chicago for Mother's Day Week to go see her.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I really want to go see her again.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would spend that money for watching girl.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love her.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Beyonce.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've taken my daughter to the concert.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The first time was my mom and my daughter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then this time was my best friend and my daughter.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just seeing her, you know, experience artistry, singing, the dancing, the theatrics of it all.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, top tier, top tier artists.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I believe you haven't been to Beyonce concert.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't necessarily have to go, but yeah, I'll take your word for it.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is quite an experience.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's my favorite artist that I listen to every day.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: What is a funny situation that comes to mind that you have dealt with in your managerial experience or something that has been like in proximity to you, maybe like from HR perspective, anything funny that comes to mind.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, let me see if I had just a leg to one thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be the joke about the hash brown because they know I love them.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would get to work one day and I come in after the team because everybody has like different arrivals.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So some team members.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: have to be there at eight, thirty.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Some team members have to be there at nine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of depends on what number one they have availability.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then also when the doctor get there.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I get there at nine and I walk in this hatch right on my desk.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, somebody was like.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's nice to see it.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a lawyer.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just like, hey, girl, I go a hatch brown.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Keep you off day.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I always say, I don't know what I'm saying, but I'll see what I'm like in.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Who would you say has been a big homey or a mentor?
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's you throughout your career that you would give credit to or shout out.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, my boss.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He is like, first of all, very, very smart.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Very smart.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like he has kind of pushed me away from feeling like I gotta be nice all the time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's just some things that just have to be, this is how it is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like he kind of pushed me in that direction and kind of, you know, guided me towards that because I think in the beginning of my managerial career,
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to be nice all the time.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there is just sometimes that it doesn't call for that you could still be kind and that is respectful.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But nice requires you to want to be liked.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's where I struggled the most in the beginning was trying to get people to like me.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, these motherfuckers not go like you.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He said that like that clear.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a brandy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You are a great manager.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: These motherfuckers not gonna like you all the time and you gotta be okay with it and I say you know what you are right so shout out to my boss like he is great a great mentor love that yes and are there any podcast that you listen to outside of your own of course
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love like Friday.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really like the fact that you bring so many Detroiters here on the podcast because I feel like I outside of sometimes.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a Detroiter, but I'm like a Southern Detroiter from the South.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of lived in both places for a while.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't get to know, you know, some of these people.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's really nice seeing fellow Detroiters here on your podcast and kind of getting to know some of the people in the comments too.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause I'm like, oh, okay, you're from Detroit.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But another podcast that I really like is here's the thing with Kevin on stage.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like him.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to them actually.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Him and Angel hopped to your comedy.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what are you yelling like screaming laughing at them because they are so crazy.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just clowning.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're holding the entire time.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very funny.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And something that probably should not be funny.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like this actually is crazy, but the way that they're talking about it and they put their committed spin on it makes it funny.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And laughing at least what have you, what would you say?
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: You deemed a career cheat code that you might experience.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like you said, I know you, you talked about your boss and I've been a mentor too, but is there like one thing that sticks out to you?
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, this is a cheat code elevator career.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shut the hell up.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, boy, the things that you learned when you shut your mouth and really pay attention and listen to what's being said.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, right?
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Watch how people are communicating.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll also be able to kind of diagnose what's Bayesian.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times when people talk, you're talking to
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: get your point across.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you're the other person on the receiving end of that, if you practice to be quiet and really just focus in with on what people are saying, you're able to digest that information and apply it.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can also just kind of know when somebody be asking, you know what I'm saying?
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you talk a lot,
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: is hard for you to be able to diagnose whether or not it's a bunch of garbage in real life and because I work with in dentistry it's a lot of vendors and you know a lot of people come in trying to sell stuff and I can kind of diagnose what that conversation is like I think you really like my shoes or you know are you just trying to get us to buy this equipment and stuff like that and so being able to know whether or not a conversation is a feasible one
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would have to be the secondary thing that I have learned.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's a big cheat code.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not my normal disposition.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so like people have kind of been intimidated by that.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: In the past, well, like I've had a manager, so it's been intimidated by that.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, you're so quiet.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you're thinking.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, no one I'm trying to comprehend was going on.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I can effectively do what I need to do.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: But so I don't, I ain't got a turn to say.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like if I, yeah, what we talking about, we'll start a extra YIP app about.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's where people kind of struggle in work to, in the corporate space because you don't have to be mute, but you need to be personable.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, keep the conversation in the workspace very, very surface level.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you talk about the weather.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about sports.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about construction, city.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's so many stupid ass toppings that you could just line up.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: and talk about it and not feel like you're divulging so much about yourself.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the skill, right?
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the skill that you learn over time because we all didn't have that moment.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I probably should not have told you that.
• 17:04
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• 17:08
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• 17:17
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• 17:19
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• 17:19
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• 17:24
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• 17:28
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• 17:39
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• 18:06
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• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because you know, I have a great love and I even got my heart parade because I love Jillian.
• 18:16
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• 18:17
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• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'll talk to me about your experience in terms of being a manager and like what was that build up in order to get into that position for you and then what has it been like having people that are responsible for and like navigate and a team.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the beginning started with me just getting a job in healthcare.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I took a receptionist position and kind of grew into that.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I learned insurance.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned just like the, you know, basic things that a receptionist needs to know.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I came from working as survey.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I worked as okay.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good customer service.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's where I kind of took that.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like how I made that my play to get that job was the level of customer service that I had.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: and I learned in a resort and then went to insurance.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I moved to like an OBGYN office and Tallahassee Floor to shout out Tallahassee.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I moved to one of those offices and you know learned a lot moved into the medical building department.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: absorbed everything.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever space I was in, I was learning.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I wasn't just there just doing a job.
• 19:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I was there actually doing my job.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and absorbing information.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that I can move on because my soul purpose was to have a higher salary.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I wanted.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And at that time, my husband broke.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so okay.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell him to put it in a money.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, okay, I got to get out of this job.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: making seven dollars, let me use my customer service skills to leverage, you know, to get it higher pay.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what I did.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I turned that nine dollar increase or I think I got to like ten from seven to, you know, fourteen.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: when I went to the medical village and then I turned it into a seventeen.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then I turned it in the eighteen that I just I kept making sure whatever move I was taking it was going to be for more money and it wasn't because I love it is because it's necessary.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We live in the capital of six society.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw the cost of living going back in two thousand four to him back in two thousand fifteen.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We knew when you start paying eleven hundred dollars way back then for a two-bedroom like where's this really going.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we just always maneuver in that way.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: to make sure that we had enough.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: We only had two kids back then.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that was just something that we really wanted to make sure of is that our kids were never ever hungry.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay?
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's always up there for the kids.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we just always navigated like that.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I moved from there from that medical building into dentistry.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what made me do that.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I was like, twenty three best move of my life because dentistry got a hold on me.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It put the looks in, like your subject can really grab you.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dentistry grabbed me and I worked for the craziest man in Florida.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he, I learned a lot from him.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned a lot.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned how to sell treatment.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned how to elevate my customer service skills that I had already kind of matured into, but he showed me a little bit more through training like he kept us in training constantly.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, why do we have to do this?
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why do we have to do that?
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it turned out to be such a beneficial tool in my life.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize it at the time that he was dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into his team, but that was why.
• 21:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's because we are selling treatment that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we have to be able to communicate with patients.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have to be able to discuss a eighty thousand dollar full arch with a patient and I blink.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that was like some of the things that we had to learn and be able to maneuver in a difficult conversation where finances are on the topic.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like who won the talk about money?
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Especially in the demo office, nobody want to talk about that.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, gone from there, I took a, like a treatment plan position and the doctor that stole me from that.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: because that's what he did.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He carries it opposite.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, I know you hate it.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know you don't like him.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on over Defero.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come on over Defero.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you want to be with somebody all the time.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it was.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was tough.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a tough, you know, working that environment.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you were really judged on performance.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you did not perform, you did not meet go, you did not get bonus.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I remember switching over to a different
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: working pays and it was much slower still rewarding.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I found I don't have to do all this crazy stuff that we were doing over there like it's not necessary.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I told myself, man, if I ever get into a leadership role.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wanna make sure my team knows that there's a sweet spot.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a place that you can excel and not kill yourself, like not stress, not be, you know, worried about work when you leave your job, like that's just a necessary.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I transitioned from that when we moved here because we were living in Florida up until the year, so I took time off to kind of prepare for that move.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was so like, I am not going back into the industry.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: but didn't sure I want to move on to a different thing.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And child, I worked at Amazon as a lead.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And not for me.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Amazon to buy things from.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will never.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: and working that type of environment just because of the work.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a lot of like a manual labor that I just am not, you know, necessarily keen on.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm like, no, thank you.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we went right back to the industry and I was planning on just sitting at their front desk and to my boss found out all the stuff I knew.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: He found out how to do that.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He found out that I knew how to do this.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do that.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he was like,
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, get up.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You about to train these people.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he really pushed me into management.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I had been a team lead.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had, you know, led teams, but I was never in senior management.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I always thought it was because I didn't have a degree.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I always thought that.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, if I, you know, give these kids out, then I'm gonna just get my degree.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't until he was like, you do not need that, actually.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have the skill.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's when I learned that I could talk my way.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: into something and it'd be beneficial for me.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just need to make sure I pay attention to what I'm doing and make sure that I'm making good decisions along my way.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's how I ended up into management and it just kind of elevated from there.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: First I was just over my one office.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he brought two extra people into the office and made me their manager like for the entire practice.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then moved me from there.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, okay, you didn't made this one a million dollar office.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I started with them, they had four locations, but it wasn't to, it was like two thousand dollar days.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you working in dentistry or somewhere that's production, that is nothing.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's like dust.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me show you how to schedule.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me show you how to build production.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I took one office that was like maybe seven to eight hundred thousand and made that two well one point one point four million.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: That one is one point four.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the main location.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then they added another one.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I flipped that one from
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: five hundred thousand to nine hundred thousand and then they kept adding locations and moving me out of actually being in the office where I started leading teams and team development and stuff like that, you know, different trainings and stuff that they would send me to and then I hit five.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I could do this.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So over time, it happened.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed like it happened at lightning speed.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel that way.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's how I knew that I had found a sweet spot in my career.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was that I didn't feel like I was running for five practices.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel like that.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I still had time to live my life, go on trips, take my kids out of, you know, out of town, because me and my husband were really valued at, like, you know, spending time with our kids and stuff.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just like, okay, I can still do it.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it just kind of
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: been there.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's amazing.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And was it like leading people?
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I asked the question from the mindset of my experience.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I probably had more.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: hesitant to say bad managers because what it is true.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, not bad managers, but probably realistically bad managers for me, because every manager is not going to be for you and be able to help you elevate and where you're going your career, but
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: definitely some bad managers out there had some of those as well.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: But from my experience, I've seen people have that like seniority in an organization, they just automatically kind of get moved into it, whether they want to do it or not.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then those are a lot of managers that you kind of see in a lot of corporate environments.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I want to ask from your perspective, being a manager, what is it like and how do people kind of ascend to those
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: positions when, you know, you see a lot of people that aren't necessarily qualified and or want to do it, that end up in those roles versus the people.
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I like, no, I really want to leave people to try to help them meet their career goals and things like that.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: So just want to like, you know, your experience, what is, what is that like, I think.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: some of the best people who let me figure out my phrase.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like some of the best people that go into management have no desire to do it.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like those are the ones that end up being the best managers because the people who want to do it want to do it for a selfish reason.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Control.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know I can do this better than this person.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I had no intention on doing anything.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to just hourly pay.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at you, answer that phone and that's it.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Have a good day.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I was thinking about.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But because somebody else, you know, and I say boss like our CEO, but we have a CFO, we got my lead doctor who was actually the owner of all the locations.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: They saw something that I didn't necessarily see.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I just didn't feel like I was at that point because I had been rejected from that.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like in Florida, it's like there are two black managers.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like everybody else you go to the meetings and stuff like that.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: They all didn't look like me.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just felt like I was just always going to be a team member until I got this going under my building until I got additional training under my belt.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even though I knew that I had the capability to do the job.
• 29:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of got comfortable with not.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that's why I was the better choice because I didn't want it.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was in hunger for power, not crazy for power.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just some people that's what they have, or that's what they want.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: because they don't have power in a real life.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they seek that.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They seek the authority inside of the workplace because it's not only place they can get it.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They can only control those people or they have to control those people.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I feel like the people who really want to be a management is probably not a good idea for them to want it because what is the reason?
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like why do you want to be a manager so bad?
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is, what is that going to do for you?
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of times, it's just control.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I really think.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the worst people.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what's really why it's so bad.
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because they make decisions that aren't necessarily team-based.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's based on their own selfish reason.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: So.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Man, that's something like some situations that the country might be in.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a lot of correlation.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, wait, that's what I'm doing.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, wait, that's what I'm doing.
• 30:54
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• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, I want to ask you, do you have any advice for people who are interested in managing people for the right reasons?
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: How can they get that leadership experience in order to be considered for those type of opportunities?
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think that just thinking of my career, I know that
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: where I am now from an age perspective and then also career perspective as well, one of the things that I realize that I don't have any, I have leadership experience in terms of cross-functional teams and things that I need, but not anybody who directly reports to me, like on paper, like, you know, I'm there next, they're next higher up.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: So wondering, what does that look like for people who would consider being in a manager role in the future for the right reasons, once again, how can they put themselves in position to do so?
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think starting at the team lead level is probably like the most natural thing, like I feel like you go from being the team member to a team lead.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because the team lead is not necessarily a manager depending on what the organizational function looks like, but a team lead is somebody who is going to rally the troops, right?
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: This person is going to be not necessarily in charge of everybody, but they're able to kind of keep people on task.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the team Lee Rao is probably my best, like my best suggestion.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I also think a leadership person, like a person that has like a leadership quality is gonna be a leader whether they're a team leader not.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you can't lead by example as an employee, can you probably?
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: would not be a manager.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was like, it starts there.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, before you even become a team Lee, like, how are you leaning by example as an employee?
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, are you training people to do things incorrectly?
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, you suppose we had work on time because I talked about that a lot while I understand that they're just, you know, barriers to getting into work on time is still
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: a requirement.
• 33:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So instead of you having excuses all the time, let's figure out the way to do it.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: But the bottom down the night before.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then also go talk to he A. B. Yeah.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to do it on the work every day.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You need to go talk to the people.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is necessary.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a bit at a big advocate for it.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Talk to me.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go talk to that lady.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go get the help you need.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You feel like that's a requirement.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But just how you lead in general without even having that label on you.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you got to be called a manager in order for you to lead, then you're probably not going to be a good manager.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just need to focus on leading by example where you are.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then the opportunities will follow you or open up right in front of you sometimes.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you will get chased down by opportunity when you kind of leave it integrity already.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like have the integrity be honest with those of us who don't know what integrity mean.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you good when people not watching?
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now you tell them truth.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you a liar who I need to know.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those are your two months in the bus.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: My things go sideways.
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: How long do we have?
• 34:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: How long do we have?
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got some stories because that's a surefire way to know that you got a sorry manager because if everything when things happen as the leader, whether you did it or not, you're supposed to say responsibility on how to fix it.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: and a child sit there and try to find out who did this and who did that?
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a child.
• 35:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: We are adults and now that we know that the mistake was made, how do we move past it?
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do we make sure that it doesn't happen again?
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what are some things that we can do to improve and even just this week?
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had a breakdown in communication.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I had to accept responsibility for that breakdown.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was out of person that made a mistake?
• 35:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, but it was a team member of mine that made that mistake.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I took accountability and figured out a way that we can improve, you know, communication.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that this person does not encounter the mistake again.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's how you kind of recognize that problem and then leave by example by fixing it and not necessarily getting stuck on who did what because that doesn't matter.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like what happened?
• 35:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do we fix it?
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the solution and that's it.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And on the flip side, can you talk to people about how they can make sure that they are prioritizing the things that their manager deems important because, and when I'm learning my experience with that, it's not about always about, I should say, about like what are your duties by the look?
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like it's really about what is your manager care about and how do you make sure that you are appeasing them to a certain extent?
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: communication.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you need to kind of know whether or not this person is focused more so on the collaboration like of a team or their more focused on individual responsibility.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So first you need to identify that like is this person more like
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: a rallying person where they can bring everybody together and everybody has these different responsibilities and kind of collaborating on task.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or if they're like, you are responsible for this, I need you to do this.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and this is your responsibility and very about a book.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're very much about the book.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so you need to identify the type of audience that you have.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to tell you that is like your biggest
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: your biggest asset as a employee, even as a manager, is to know your audience.
• 37:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who are you talking to?
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you need to know the person that you're looking to meet the need of.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so if your manager has communicated, okay, this is what I want to see, then follow that.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of times before, but I don't do what I want to do.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how we end up in these situations.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: We want to do.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of times it's laid out black and white, you know, if your manager is not very clear with communicating, then I would follow the the guideline that the job has given you, but then also follow up like a lot of times a part of being an employee is managing up.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So getting to communicate with that boss or communicate with your manager and having that report there, especially if you're newer, they have people who already exist in the position or in the company.
• 37:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they don't necessarily know you.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just as much of the managers responsibility to try to build that bridge.
• 38:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's a collaborative effort to kind of get that understanding of what that looks like.
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But communicating with your boss is going to be top tier.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Love it.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, like visibility.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Please.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are they watching me?
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: They want to let them see you.
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people's problems that they want to fly so far under the radar, that people don't really see you or the value that you bring.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I hate for to say this term, but to the table.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just a reality.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a job.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're paying you to do that job.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you need to be visible.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So am I saying that you need to be in a face all the time?
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, but you need to be like a phone call away or someone who initiates that point of conversation so that they always remember like, okay, this this person is here.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So making sure that you are visible is very important.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's powerful.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Enough about work.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about creativity because you have been
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: from what I see and create phenomenal content, that's how you've been able to build your followers.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: So when it doesn't become a thing for you to be able to generate these videos, put them out there, have people engaged on them and learn the things from them.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: When did that dial kind of turn to say, I want to start pushing our content?
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think I started making content like twenty twenty when everybody else did.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we were stuck in the house.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just making videos, but it was more like fun family stuff like that.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I kind of realized that the kids weren't necessarily interested in it anymore.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were kind of becoming teenagers at that point.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was like, oh, let me turn the camera on me.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just did like stay home.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm content because that for like six months, I was at home with our youngest and with the older two kids.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, we're, you know, making stay home content.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is what we're focusing on.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just kind of did that.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of, once I went back to work, I stopped.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't think this is going anywhere.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I had got like maybe twenty-one thousand followers across platforms and I'm like, it is like five.
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually tired of this.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going anywhere.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I still loved creating content.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still like, you know, discussing different topics.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love political conversations.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I would do that from time to time, but I wasn't consistent.
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that day, when I was at work, and I was just like,
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna record this video.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea that it was gonna do that.
• 40:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I definitely did not know that people would be in the comments asking me questions.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what started it.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like somebody asked a question like, well, how do you do this and not get ran over?
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do you do this?
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or be this type of manager and not encounter people taking advantage of you?
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can't avoid those things.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna happen if they want to do it, it's going to happen.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But your decision is, are you gonna let it?
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's where that boundary is like that's where you create boundaries for your team and it just kind of growing today and I just started every day I would get up and record two videos and I don't necessarily content plan sometimes I'll just have something that's on my mind and it's just kind of sitting to the drafts.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I realize like
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think for me that I think that's the best way.
• 41:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the best way to do it.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: That works for me.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like if I think of it, do it and then at least have it in my phone to edit it or like you say having it in the drafts it versus like I'm going to post this on Monday and this on Tuesday.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't even do that.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: The podcast is even spurt like yeah.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it has to be like that otherwise it just becomes
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: with everything else is, you know, very scripted, not my raw emotion, not like my raw thought of how I feel about the situation.
• 41:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there's some things that I do have to be more calculated about.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can see like some political talk, I don't even engage in because number one I know is gonna piss me off.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And a minute and thirty seconds, really, you cannot get like the nuances of the war in the Middle East.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't do that.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like some topics of conversation.
• 42:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of stay away from because I know that it's just going to create.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: a continuous conversation that I don't necessarily want to participate in.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just am kind of careful about that.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do it in my stories or stuff like that where it's a little limited or even on Patreon, but for the social media aspect, I just kind of keep it to work in other things like my kids or be a married and different outfits that I like and stuff because I'm a woman.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's another avenue for me to kind of relate to my followers because it's majority women.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then what about the feedback that you've gotten or like the community that you've been able to build?
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: How has that been a thing for you and like engaging with them and meet new people?
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: We talked about somebody that we follow in comment that you've been able to build a relationship with.
• 43:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: So like what does that journey been like?
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that has actually been a very interesting.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think people aren't very surprised that I'm the same.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: They feel like, they're like, oh my god, I'm like, girl, that's how you know it.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be like people in the store were like,
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you Brandy?
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
• 43:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, girl.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can I talk to you?
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I did a little session inside of Nike.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody was having a hard time, but I'm, you know, I'm very much like I am on social media.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm a little bit of, I can be introverted just kind of depends on the scenario.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: the most part, I'm the same.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that has been like an adjustment for people.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I really love meeting a lot of my supporters.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I love the rallying that they do.
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like last week, I had a rough week.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was like really tough like dealing with that situation or that scenario and seeing the support that I got from it and just like the love, the emails, the text messages, everybody was just so supportive and so just really build in that community and having that vulnerable moment with them.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was nice to see that these people like listen, like they understand what I'm going through.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They go through it too.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's some people they experience some of these things.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that was just nice to build that and kind of connect with people that I probably would never ever.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, see or mute.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's really nice like the person you were mentioning, you know, earlier, I have built such a good relationship with her.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just really feel like she has become a friend to me.
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've become the same thing to her.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: We talk and it's FaceTime and stuff like that.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that has been very nice to me, you know, people on that level.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's amazing.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I can
• 45:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't file with that as well from just being able to have this podcast platform, but doing it as long as I have an event like some social media as well.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like I had different fellow podcasts to her homies that I talk to now and engage with on social media like they would go to each other's events and things like that.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: So it's really been dope to just be able to engage with the audience or people who like respect the craft in that type of way and then I'm also
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I always used to get like you look like somebody I know like what you like somebody I know I always used to get that for that reason like I look like somebody comes or somebody somebody relative but now it's a little bit more amplified and like I've seen you somewhere before and I'm like my my thing is I don't know you don't money do I and then once we get
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Once we get past that end then, okay, we got a conversation, but yeah, no, that's definitely the beauty behind it as well.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I was gonna ask you if you don't mind sharing the situation in terms of why you were having a worth week last week and how your community was able to rally around you because I think it's, I think it kind of like sets the table, fun intended for
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: you the direction that trajectory that you're on ready in and probably, you know, a nudge by the big man or a person above University be like, hey, you might, this is how this was supposed to go down and not the other way around.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't mind, I can definitely share.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So just like a little synopsis, I applied to be on somebody's conferences this afternoon during the summer.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you send your application out months and it may as you see, like, okay.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody gonna pick me, do you get chosen?
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like one of those big things for, especially in the career space.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's the validity that a lot of people look for is the conferences, because if they see you on a conference, they're like this person is legit.
• 46:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm saying, I think that I felt like that would legitimize the conversations that I have online.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like that was what I was looking for.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I got
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: eight hell knows like one of them was very like girl you don't necessarily fit what we're looking for and that kind of broke me I think that was the one that was like
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: for you.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what exactly are you all looking for?
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like what they said it do I not fit and it just kind of made me feel a certain type of way about myself.
• 47:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And um, it was one or it actually a few digits kind of live me on read like girl, you know, we read it, but we're not really
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, look at for anything.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you just kind of made me feel like, what have I been doing this last year?
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I kind of built the platform from nothing.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was there was no topic like this in this way at that time.
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of was like, if I felt
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know what to do.
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's exactly what I feel.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel confused.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt rejection because it was a real thing.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and it just really broke me down.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I had a little crushish and y'all.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I might take the video down.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like when people come in and I go back and I see myself looking like that.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you just want to talk to yourself and just lift yourself up when you see those moments like that.
• 48:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just such a raw feeling that I was feeling right there.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I had just got the last one before I got that before I recorded that.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was sitting in the McDonald's parking lot because I had pulled over.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw the email come over.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I got to pull over.
• 48:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I pulled over.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm about to go get a damn McDonald's.
• 48:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's up?
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's up?
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's up?
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's up?
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's up?
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's up?
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: because I'm actually stressing.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just so in my emotions or in my feelings about the whole thing.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's where, you know, it kind of came from, but if you, it definitely put a better in my bag when I started getting feedback from, you know, people who
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had followed on social media for a long time.
• 49:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they got in my deums.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even emails.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like girl.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've been to come to this conference.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've been to come here.
• 49:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, in this conference, this I didn't apply to, that it just wasn't aware of.
• 49:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That I just didn't, you know, understand the day existed.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like the core eight, you know, especially for black conferences.
• 49:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the other reason why I was mad.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, these are my fellow.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: What?
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Girl.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: Are you all careful?
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm really.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: You don't find that suspicious.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't find that suspicious.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then when I started looking at the caliber of people that they started posting, I'm like, you right, I don't fit this on.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because whatever this game is, it's all like the play.
• 50:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk about this is how you get to this level.
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you're telling these people how to get to this level.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you're telling them that it got to deal with Beth.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on now.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: After they get up in there, I think it is job.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I tell them how to navigate with a difficult boss.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on now.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But those are the things that he's keeping it too fluffy.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tell them, okay, this how you going, this how we land this job in five, you know, you know, you know, they just make your best.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Give it to her all.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just grind.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: and telling people how to put together resume while it is great.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is okay.
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I get this job, but you're not telling me about the inter-office drama, how to navigate, how to communicate with somebody that over talks.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: How to communicate with somebody that over shares.
• 51:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's me uncomfortable.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: My boss makes me uncomfortable.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do I do?
• 51:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do I follow claim with the EEOC?
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the things that people don't necessarily know because the content is not there.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, okay, I have to do my own thing.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's where I am.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if that job, many kind of friends, there we go.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's coming soon.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: In September and it will be in Detroit.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So make sure you are following me so that you don't miss the link, okay?
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because there we go.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a limited amount of people.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Are you thinking one day, multi day, like what's the,
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a one day event.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's going to be a one day event on a Saturday more than likely is our day that we're looking for.
• 51:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just going to be an in person, you know, meet and greet, but we're going to be talking about these, like really nuanced experiences that you have working in, go over to America.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, special as a black woman.
• 51:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are just some challenges, like as a black man there are challenges.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: and really talking about those things that make people uncomfortable to discuss in the workplace, that it just, it has to be talked about.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: These are elephants that exist.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do what do I share?
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: How much I make?
• 52:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do I tell that?
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do I reveal that?
• 52:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know salary transparency warriors.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: They love that, but chablies.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not telling you how much money I make so you can become my parents.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also don't tell people where I'm going, what I'm doing.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a quiet weekend.
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Lisa, I like to dance.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't do, I just went outside.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I said.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you know what I'm doing.
• 52:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm back there where I'm going.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all you need.
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever questions you ask, we have to answer them down and tell them nothing change.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's how you keep the not suspense because I don't want to sound like I'm trying to live a secret life or something, but that's how you keep your personal business, your business.
• 53:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You ain't got to share everything.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everything don't have to be revealed in the workplace.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you have to be careful also about what you reveal because I feel like some things make you a target.
• 53:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 53:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: People know how much money you make.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: or even talking about the things that you're doing can sometimes make you a target in the workplace.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for some of us, you probably absolutely not, you know, my home girl is like, okay, make more than your home girl.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
• 53:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Drive a nicer car than your home girl.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen that before.
• 53:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And don't be happily married.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that is it.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't stand it, why don't I come to work?
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, damn her baby.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you have I learned that the long time ago not to share because it was a bunch of women that was going through the forest.
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm up here talking about how good my husband is.
• 54:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, maybe I need to stop talking to ya.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because ya'll actually did be down or something here.
• 54:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: That those are tricks of the trades.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I definitely look forward to seeing how that comes together.
• 54:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: And as I mentioned in the comments, I caught the video a little late, but of course, let us know how we can support.
• 54:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me know how you can support and more would love to be able to see that we need it.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, how we can, whatever we got to do to stand it up for sure.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
• 54:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I got to ask you about the millennial management podcast and just want to talk to you briefly about your podcast journey and how you've been able to leverage this in order to also have your own thing outside of work as well.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: So if you could talk this a little bit about the podcast and also the opportunities that you've been able to build with that.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So with the podcast, I have been able to first of all really
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: get to talk about things that people are just like, you know, kind of, it's a candidate conversation.
• 55:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I call the people who listen to me, Betty, right?
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: When they write in, I don't say they know you, I don't do it.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It work.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they keep some ambiguity or they're worried about the media about them.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're okay.
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, keep it private.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we talk about things that are just like very difficult to acknowledge that this is happening to you.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like people get looked over for raises or for promotions.
• 55:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're standing in the gap for the position.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, jolly, given it, you know, given the position you're looking for somebody outside the corporation or outside of the organization.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're that middle man, that intro person is holding it down.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: and the defeat that you feel from that is my mental.
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't really talk to everybody about that because everybody doesn't understand what that looks like corporate-wise and how you still got to say it face and smile when Sally started that job.
• 55:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also navigating what to do after you get that door slam.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do we navigate this?
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about conversations that I just don't necessarily see online where people can write in and discuss about their concerns in the workplace.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're having an issue with FMLA.
• 56:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're having an issue even like with finding a job period.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like are there some things missing from my resume that I need to improve.
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I read those emails.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: and kind of based an episode around it loosely.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then that's how I kind of go from there.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I've been able to really build community even in the podcast, like separate from social media.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: That has been really nice because I see the ratings and the comments and stuff.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, y'all, period.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really like this conversation.
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just being able to connect with the listeners in a non-visual way.
• 56:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we all got a little bit ADHD now.
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think.
• 56:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's nice having people be able to listen and be able to consume the content in a different way.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah.
• 57:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Love that.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you have Brock has shown them on the Instagram?
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got to make one.
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I got to get the Brock has shown them go crazy.
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to show me how much I'm going to show you.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to show you when we use it.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: You will wrap this.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got, I just I've seen that but I'm going to tell you I'm not that like
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: social media savvy.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do a lot of things, but it's like certain ways on Instagram is just very complicated.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't even fall around with it because I want to mess around.
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't necessarily know how to navigate it.
• 57:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I've got you.
• 57:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've got you.
• 57:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And before we wrap up, do you have, do you, would you deem yourself a creative because I know like obviously you've been able to build this professional career for yourself now step in being able to leverage the things that you learn and experience and being able to do that in a creative way?
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Would you always kind of have deem just some creative or is this something that's newly found?
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think what I thought was creative was some totally different than what I'm doing now.
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like being able to bake cakes from scratch, being able to draw, you know, being able to kind of put things together interior decorating.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those were the things I deemed to be creative and it wasn't until I kind of matured a little bit into this when I realized that, no, this is creativity because I'm kind of reaching to that, well, left side.
• 58:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: to the left side of my brain and finding these topics and connecting the left and right and bringing real topics inside of the workplace with a funny way to communicate it and being able to engage with the audience and marry those two things.
• 58:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't always see myself that way.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just kind of was like, yeah, I lifted out.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just two damn logical.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He left that part out when he made my brain.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was like logic logic.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think I just had to mature and grow as a woman, as a mother, as a wife, and really live life before that side actually was able to open up because that was later on in life when I found content and creating and stuff like that.
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then now that I'm thirty five, I've only been really like big making content for a year.
• 59:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's very new and experiencing it.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been surreal, but I do think that now I can't say that I am a creative.
• 59:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I got touched on this because talking about millennials and me, you both are millennials in the same age bracket.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: You mentioned you thirty five and I just want to know, do you feel like young and old at the same time?
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like in the middle of like high gear here.
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is so weird because we are like the least serious generation.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like people are like way too serious.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So are the people over us and we're in the middle like we just kind of play around and keep it you know fun and fresh but I do feel like we're in this young old.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: part, you know, of our lives.
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're in the, what, how old are the ones in ADC?
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was fifty.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They go on towards fifty sixty.
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they head towards fifty and I think that, you know, it's so funny seeing people who are who were born in the ADC still act like us.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we were born in the last piece.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like that generation together.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think we are very much childish.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know,
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do also think that that helps us give like a different lease on life that I feel like we're able to look at life more for what it is instead of what it should be.
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we kind of accept reality and we like, okay, this is what I can do with this.
• 1:00:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we are very much the generation of making lemonade out of lemons because we got to serve some better shit.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can run down the list of stuff.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can get where you got time.
• 1:00:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 1:00:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: The country is terrible.
• 1:00:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every day we wake up is the new president's like, I am tired.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we live through, we live through the bushing administration.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that was the pitch, but no.
• 1:01:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was the beginning.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was the beginning.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we had some hope.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how life was.
• 1:01:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: We had a fire.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had this crazy man.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh my god, what's going on with this country?
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we got hope again.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, actually, no, it was like, wait, I'm just playing.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Much longer this time.
• 1:01:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a long time.
• 1:01:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We see a glaring light of hope.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like hopefully not.
• 1:01:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully I'm wrong.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like, you know, hopefully the country realizes the error that it made.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know my people we did right.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just, you know, hope everybody else kind of joins the mainway.
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And because they are actively, you know, terrorizing everybody.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
• 1:01:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember that we terrorized every day.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: The country I got to pay taxes in.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on now.
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on now.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's not be really talking.
• 1:02:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I still taking it out my check.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: What?
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand.
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to be the one thing that moves too big.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're still collecting.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say I said that's between y'all.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's not me.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was too big.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to be the one and still be my money.
• 1:02:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And all that.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need to know what's going on with my money.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: They haven't yet been able to answer all.
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I asked the question in February.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come on now.
• 1:02:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Does I have to check after that damn thing?
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, why am I still?
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why do I still have to pay taxes?
• 1:02:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the wonders.
• 1:02:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's still a video.
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a question.
• 1:02:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, Brandon, what's next?
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's in your crystal ball for what you haven't horizon and what do you see in the future?
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what's next is our main account friend.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So my husband and I, we are working on the FTJ, many conference is going to be small here in Detroit.
• 1:03:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then on a much grander scale is the larger conference that I think will place take place here, you know, as well.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I need some sponsors.
• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd be out there and they'd be able.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, that I did write my first like sponsors sponsorship letter.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I did that this week.
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm getting ready to start sending some of those things out so that we can get ready for next summer because I want to be a contender.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these conferences are gears in.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like the social media aspect is kind of helped me build to this point.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so instead of me being on other people panels, I'm going to create my own.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 1:03:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: You deserve it.
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: So thank you.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to that for sure.
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: So Brandon working with people tapping and if they want to work with you, I know that you also offer services as well, like consultations and rather may review people on the tapping, which work and they find you your social website, all that stuff.
• 1:03:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am Brandy the Millennium Manager everywhere pretty much.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to listen to that podcast, I'm on Apple Spotify, I heart Amazon, YouTube, audible.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much everywhere you listen to podcasts and as the Millennium Management Podcast.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Brandy the Millennium Manager on all social media platforms.
• 1:04:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: My website is in my bio.
• 1:04:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you just click that link and look for an appointment and they fill up quick.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think I got three point I opened four additional points today and there are only three as open it before I got here.
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And somebody already books.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Book one.
• 1:04:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want something, you want that resume read, you want the, you know, conversation like a one on one.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: communication about issue in the workplace that is very specific that you know really cannot be handled over in video or a DM or maybe you just don't want to wait.
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Book that console we can sit down and talk about it and sometimes they go over hour but I only charge the fifty dollars for the one hour because I know it's a laboring session and I know these are working class people so I keep that in mind with my pricing as far as like services that I don't want
• 1:05:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to make sure that I'm not out here robin' nobody.
• 1:05:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we talked about integrity in the beginning.
• 1:05:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yes.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Love that.
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Brandy, thanks for pulling up on us to the Black Friday podcast.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Very much.
• 1:05:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate it.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you got a new fan in terms of content and also the podcast in me.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I added it to my podcast follow.
• 1:05:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm walking in now.
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: And just grateful for your share.
• 1:05:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Your story with us and I love the intentionality behind what it is that you do because I know that
• 1:05:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've had people that looked out for me at work, the way that you talk to your audience.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I know how valuable that is.
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: So definitely grateful that you have decided to take this path and be able to encourage and uplift people via this platform.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you having me also.
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad that we finally got a chance to meet.
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I really love your podcast.
• 1:05:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said before, I enjoy you having Detroiters on here.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that is monumental.
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how far you're trying to go into political space, but I do see you heading there.
• 1:06:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: like, you know, big names, not just here in Detroit, but, you know, you're venturing out to statewide politicians, you know, has statewide here.
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I see it going, you know, much further than that.
• 1:06:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So just keep pushing and staying encouraged.
• 1:06:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really love what you're doing.
• 1:06:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I can wait for the next episode.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate that.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate that.
• 1:06:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And everybody's watching.
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, we're going to tap in with your own piece.