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#69 - Elon Musk & Joe Rogan Speculate on Aliens & Trump's Assassination Plot · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Elon Musk makes another appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast this past Friday.
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  And this weekend, there was so many things happening.
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  I don't even know where to start, but we are going to primarily focus in this
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  episode on that podcast that Elon Musk went on on Friday.
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  The Oscars, I don't know if you caught that. That was a pretty crazy event.
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  The stock market is all over the place. It's not been booming as I had hoped
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  it would immediately out of the gates with Trump taking office.
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  Maybe things are needing to get put in place.
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  There's just been a lot of things happening.
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  The Zelensky-Trump fiasco this past Friday, there's been no shortage of news,
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  but is there ever any shortage of news? My name is Brandon Fogel.
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  This is Evolution. We're going to dive into it. We're going to primarily just
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  focus on the Elon Musk Joe Rogan sit down.
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  This was the third one, the third time that they sat down together.
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  The biggest episode Joe Rogan's ever had, the most watched, viewed ever,
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  is that very first one with Elon Musk going on there.
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  It's had the most views all time for his show, which it's a really,
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  really great one, you know.
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  Even the one right before the election was good. But this one,
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  this one was, is this one going to eclipse what happened on that very first
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  time they sat down together?
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  But we're going to take a few looks at a couple of the highlights,
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  the biggest moments of that sit down in this episode.
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  Let's just dive right into it. I mean, they just have good chemistry together.
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  You know, they see things differently in some ways, but in a lot of ways,
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  there's a lot of similarities between Elon and Joe Rogan.
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  But the two biggest moments that stood out to me are these right here.
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  One had to do with the talk when it kind of drifted over into aliens.
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  Because whenever Joe Rogan has Elon on there, you know he wants to talk to Elon about aliens.
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  Joe loves talking about aliens anyways, but who better to go to and talk about
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  it with than Elon Musk and Elon always hints at I'm an alien. I'm an alien.
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  He throws it out there. You know, I'm an alien, you know, and people don't want
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  to believe that. But I'm an alien.
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  And Joe, he's just always laughing.
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  So who better to go to as well as the rocket man himself, Elon Musk.
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  But this is where it really the highlight. I'm going to just take we're going
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  to take a quick look at it and then we're going to break it down.
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  That's what I've been looking for. You could ask our Grok AI right now to create
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  a high-res image of an alien spacecraft, you know, over Austin.
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  Yeah. And it's going to do a great job. So why do we not have at least that?
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  Right. Yeah, but I want to believe. That's the problem. My brain starts going,
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  oh, come on. This is no fun. I want it to be real.
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  I want there to be at least be some advanced propulsion system.
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  If not, like, what are all these people seeing?
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  Like, what is happening if we're not being occasionally visited by things that
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  are smart enough to hide?
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  We might be. It's just that these aliens are very subtle. Yeah,
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  you keep saying that. It's a good line.
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  It's a solid line because it's pretty accurate. it. I just want to see some
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  high-risk video of aliens.
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  How are they just evading all the cameras? All right.
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  So what really stood out to me right here was, Joe, I want to believe.
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  I want to believe when Joe said that, you know?
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  And Joe's worldview, and I'm really trying to step back and analyze it,
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  and he's on a different level as opposed to a lot of different people out there.
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  But the way that he's able to break down things, break down arguments,
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  and understand, get to the crux of the matter.
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  How he sees the world, because I've went at it differently, like,
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  in how I'm kind of basically gleaning what he, how he views reality.
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  And a lot of it has to do with the psychedelic drugs, you know, psychedelic drugs.
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  And almost that can get us into something deeper, beyond the universe,
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  that's out there. He's wanting that.
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  He's not just, he's definitely not just, I'm materialistic, you know, it's just...
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  Evolutionary processes that brought us here. And that's it.
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  You know, there could have been a time that Joe Rogan might've thought like
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  that, but he, I don't think he is like that anymore.
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  He is seeking for deeper meaning. I'm of the opinion that that deeper meaning
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  is, you know, it's the, it's the spiritual world with Jesus Christ,
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  you know, and angels and demons and all that.
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  But see, it's like, it, it, it, it's flabbergasting to me that Jesus and angels
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  and demons and all about that and resurrection is boring.
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  How did we get to that? How did the devil deceive our eyes so much that when
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  we think about Jesus and all that, that that is the status quo?
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  That is the conventionality that that's all there could be, you know,
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  and that that's boring, you know, and we have to look beyond that.
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  When you really boil it down, like, I know I'm just flipping this right to Jesus
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  and everything, but it's like, I really was thinking about this.
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  How is being born of a virgin, you know,
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  the miracles happened 2000 years ago, that perfect pinnacle of history that
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  it happened in, you know, because I mean, like you think,
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  well, why doesn't, why didn't God just wait 2000 more years later and then start
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  bringing Jesus when we have video cameras, when we were able to take pictures.
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  Maybe that is a grace to us.
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  Maybe that is, was God giving us grace because that would just further condemn
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  us because we would explain it away that much more.
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  The video, like we would have, if Jesus came this year or two years ago,
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  when we were able to record him walking out of that tomb, you know,
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  we had a live stream of him walking out of that tomb.
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  People would explain it away in some other fashion, you know?
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  So maybe it was a grace to like, God gives us enough evidence so that we can
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  believe in him. But like once we start just closing our eyes so much,
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  it just we just go into more of a condemned state.
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  And I don't want to flip this and say this all about Joe or Elon whatsoever.
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  You know, this is all humanity. This is me. This is everyone.
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  This is we're all in this together, folks. We are all in this together, you know.
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  So but it just it it puts me in awe when I think about how Jesus and talking
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  about him, that the more interesting thing is aliens.
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  And we want to believe in anything else whatsoever possible instead of,
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  you know, I guess it's because we've had it for 2,000 years of it being in our
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  face, and now it's not as.
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  Exciting anymore. You know, that's why we have to have a Dan Brown come and
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  make, make the Bible exciting by trying to, trying to get some secret knowledge out of it.
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  I'm just thinking whenever I hear them talk about like aliens and Joe says he
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  wants to believe, you know, not too long ago, he had, he's had a bunch of Christians
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  on his, on his podcast and he's open.
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  He's, he's, he's definitely not hostile to Christianity at all.
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  You know, there are, there are clips of him, you know years back
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  that he was hostile it seemed like to to christianity
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  and and just braiding it and making and
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  making fun of it and how stupid it was i don't know if what he
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  what he thinks like if what what if it was a calculated decision
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  to change that stance or if he has been more open to hearing about it but to
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  me it's just like i know you want you want to believe in aliens and i i mean
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  i i'm all for there might be aliens there might be aliens but in this worldview this like that we have,
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  that the Bible presents, the Bible gives us, you know, there are some crazy
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  stuff happening already.
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  You know, we don't need to invent and want to believe in something super crazy
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  that's possibly out there when the super crazy is actually out there.
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  You know, C.S. Lewis, he made the point that like the thing about Christianity,
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  there's all these myths out there.
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  But the weird thing about Christianity is it's the myth that is true.
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  It's the myth that is true. And it's, it's a story that is, is, is crazy, you know?
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  So we don't have to go super far to find something that is titillating and just,
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  and just makes us want to lean in and try to glean some new knowledge where,
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  you know, Jesus, he is super interesting in himself.
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  And I think it's just, we got to get to like, can we actually accept it?
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  Can we believe it? You know? And.
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  That's for everyone to decide their own personal opinion, what they want to,
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  what they want to, where they want to go.
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  You know, I think as long as you're open, God will give you more light.
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  If you're, if you're open to truth, I think the main thing is what do you seriously,
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  no matter what the truth is, no matter what it is, if it's the opposite of what I'm thinking right now,
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  if, if it's going to completely shift my course of life and shift the way that
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  I'm wanting to live and what I'm aspiring to do,
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  if that truth is going to knock me off my horse and I'm willing to accept it,
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  I think if we're in that position, God will give us more truth.
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  You know, otherwise he's going to give us light and it's just going to condemn
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  us further, you know, unless we, unless we just kind of surrender ourselves to it.
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  You know, I mean, we, I hate to switch everything to biblical,
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  but I mean, in my view, I see everything from biblical lens,
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  you know, everything, you know, and now we're going to go to the next clip.
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  We're going to shift gears a little bit. This is where it shifted and it talked
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  about when Donald Trump, the previous assassination attempt,
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  the one back in June that he actually got shot at.
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  He actually got shot at and he got his ear almost ripped off.
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  He almost got his head ripped off, but by the grace of God, he is still standing.
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  We're going to take a look at Elon Musk when he went back to,
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  This is after Butler and going back to Butler and having another rally and him seeing him.
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  We understand. We remember Elon Musk jumping on stage, jumping on stage and,
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  you know, his theatrics, you know, very gesticulating and him on there.
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  And he's given his account that he sees that exact place where that gunman was
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  seated, seated, laying wherever.
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  And and he's like.
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  How in the world that is the perfect pristine spot, but let's,
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  let's actually take a look at what Elon has to say there.
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  If I was a sniper, my pole position, my number one spot would be that roof. Yeah.
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  Like it's, it's like the best seat, the best seat in the house. Yeah.
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  Like, why would you not? No, it's so obvious. It's the best seat in the house.
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  And if you want to be a sniper, there isn't a better position.
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  It was pretty obvious that the idea was like, if, if we're saying that this
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  is a coordinated assassination attempt, and it very well could have been.
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  That's what you would do. You'd have someone go up there. He shoots the president. You shoot him.
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  You got Lee Harvey Oswald all over again. It's over. It's all wrapped up, nice and clean.
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  They assassinated him. We never heard a peep about it. We don't have any idea.
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  They would concoct some sort of story. He was radicalized by this or that,
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  or he was on medication. Who knows?
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  And now you have a completely different presidential election and you have a
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  murder on live television.
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  All right. So that was, that was a very poignant, poignant moment for me.
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  Very, very, because this, this had actually had to do this.
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  I mean, we say elections have consequences. This would have been as impactful
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  and huge and resonating that the actual election itself happened.
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  Donald Trump, that could have been Abraham Lincoln all over again,
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  you know, except we would not, we would never hear the name of Donald Trump
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  ever again. We would, he would have been a forgotten thing of the past.
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  They would have probably, you know, just covered up all he did in history.
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  You know, the history books would change everything.
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  And who knows the history books are yet to be written, but, and anything could change.
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  And as, as just him, Donald Trump going into office, that is the perfect example of the flip.
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  You know, God must have a sense of humor in a lot of ways.
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  You know, he must have a sense of humor. I think about God's sense of humor
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  every time I'm watching a football game,
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  as well as just in regular life and the news that is just played out before
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  us every day and politics happening every day that we experience and we watch
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  is like the most unlikely situation usually ends up happening.
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  The thing that you think that's not even possible that it could happen, it ends up happening.
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  So they're talking about Donald Trump's,
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  And how it could it have been coordinated, like supposedly, allegedly, possibly.
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  And Joe Rogan, like he is very interested in the JFK assassination,
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  you know, and trying to get to Lee Harvey Oswald and trying to find out what all went down there.
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  But he's like, I don't even care about that anymore compared to this event.
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  I mean, this is like something that is like happened last year.
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  I mean, the thing with JFK, that's like 50 years ago. Like if people don't,
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  it's not going to have any real change in the trajectory of where we're going.
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  You know, we have been so desensitized to everything. Like I,
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  I'm always stuck in awe of like how desensitized we are to anything.
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  Nothing really shakes us anymore.
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  The government made like announced
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  last year that aliens are real and we are like, okay, next story.
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  We, we don't care. Like they like legitimize said, the aliens are real. They've said it.
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  And we're like, okay, let's move on. We don't, nothing.
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  And this makes me think about like, there are so many things,
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  conspiratorial fires burning in all of our hearts.
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  Everyone, you know, some people have the, I mean, way more so,
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  but everybody's got a little bit of conspiratorial nature in themselves.
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  And I'm just like, if God allowed the embers to glow and allowed the course
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  of history just to be, if we had free reign, like real legit freedom,
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  you know, this world would be annihilated in a second.
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  But God has greater purposes that are over everything. And he's not going to
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  let us just carry out everything that's in our heart because it's like we all
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  want something crazy to be out there.
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  And really there is something way crazier than we could ever imagine that is actually happening.
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  It's just people, we, a lot of people just, we have blinders on.
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  We don't see the spiritual unseen realities that are happening behind everything.
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  And we want the more boring version of aliens and something that is out there
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  in the ether and something that is beyond our galaxy.
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  Whereas there's something beyond this realm that is actually right in front
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  of us, that is literally in the room that you're sitting in.
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  There are spiritual things.
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  Literally, it's happening. It is happening, but whether you choose to believe
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  it or not, you know, angels are circulating around you all the time.
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  Everything is always, it is, if we had our eyes opened, you know,
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  that's why in the, in the Bible, it talks about Elijah or is Elisha and he,
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  and his servant and he, his servant is just terrified. He's scared to death.
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  He's like, they're going to come kill us. They're going to come kill us.
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  And Elisha tells his servant, there are more that are, there are more that are
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  with us than are with them.
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  And he prays to the Lord that open his eyes that he might see and his servant's
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  eyes gets opened and he sees chariots of fire just burning all around that are
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  just like, we don't understand.
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  And especially Christians, you have an army at your side every day.
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  You're going into work. You have an army going into work with you.
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  You got angels, you know, they're ministering spirits. They are there.
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  It's like, we don't want to believe it, you know, because we can't see it.
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  We can't, it doesn't work with our five senses, but they're there.
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  Now with this assassination attempt, and I know it's very interesting to me,
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  you know, that Joe, he doesn't even care anymore about the JFK thing anymore,
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  because this is right in front of us of what happened.
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  And when Elon talked about like, how could they have coordinated such an effort
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  and it to be just, it failed because it failed and the guy missed the shot.
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  And we wouldn't have got down to anything that actually happened if the guy
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  had been a better shot, but he wasn't.
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  And he barely missed any nicked Trump on the air on the ear.
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  And now we actually have an opportunity to find out what went down because him
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  to be in Elon, just, he makes it, he gave like the perfect illustration that
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  I've never, I'd never thought of, like, how, how does the deep state,
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  you know, if the CIA, you know, the CIA is always watching, you know,
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  NSA is always listening, you know, how could they do something like that?
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  You know, and like, I think the CIA is great.
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  You know, they do probably some dark things, but you know, they're keeping us
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  safe, but how could they like with Lee Harvey Oswald have done what they did with him.
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  And then now with this young fella that
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  got put in that perfect position and he and elon made the
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  illustration that the sport curling
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  like if you're if you're familiar with curling it's
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  not that you're pushing that the person and you're directly steering what they're
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  doing but you're just kind of right in front of it if you're familiar with it
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  it's like you're like it's like a broom you're sweeping in front of it so that
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  it goes the way that you want it to go and it goes in that perfect exact spot
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  that you want it to be. And it does the rest.
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  The ball does the rest or whatever the puck, whatever that thing is called.
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  I don't know, but it puts it in that exact spot, you know, and him,
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  Elon's talking about that and saying that, that did, that was interesting to me.
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  That was very interesting to me because I'd never even thought about that.
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  It, Elon Musk, he's always opening your eyes.
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  He's always opening your eyes. He's making you think a lot deeper if you hang
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  with him and you really dial into everything he says, because it's next level.
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  It's next planetary. It's beyond us. Whether he's an alien, I don't know.
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  I seriously doubt he's an alien, but you never know.
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  And Joe Rogan, absolutely love Joe Rogan, and he is able to break down every argument.
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  So them talking about these two topics, and they talked about a bunch,
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  so you should check out the entire episode.
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  The entire thing was amazing, but these were the highlights that I gleaned from it.
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  So I hope it gave you food for thought and we will leave it at that.
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  Music.