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The Writers Strike Back · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large nor Drunk Collider Podcasts,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm time traveler Ariel Caston, and with me
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  Speaker 1: is the also coming back from absent time traveler Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hooked on a feeling.
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  Speaker 1: You get cheka.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, first of all, I guess we should get
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  Speaker 2: our apologies out of the way. We missed two weeks,
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  Speaker 2: and one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Was because technically one te technically.
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  Speaker 2: One two weeks, and one of those was because of conflicts,
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  Speaker 2: and the other was because we recorded but there was
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  Speaker 2: an issue with the recording file and I tried to
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  Speaker 2: fix it, but nothing I could do seem to make
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  Speaker 2: it any better. So we technically now have a lost
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  Speaker 2: episode of Large Nurdron Collider, which I would be glad
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  Speaker 2: to publish if it weren't for the fact that the
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  Speaker 2: files just totally corrupted, so you wouldn't hear anything anyway
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  Speaker 2: if I tried to publish it. So we apologize. We
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  Speaker 2: will be covering a little bit of the stuff what
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  Speaker 2: was going to be covered in previous episodes, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're we're we're we're apologetic about all of that. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Also, thank you to the people who reached out and
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  Speaker 1: asked when our next episode would be. It is heartwork
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  Speaker 1: warming and encouraging to know that you guys follow actively
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  Speaker 1: and listen and we love you all because that happened.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't tell you, Jonathan, but we had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of people reach out saying, hey, when's your next episode
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  Speaker 1: going to be? We miss you guys.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that's that's good, that's sweet. Like we
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  Speaker 2: we you know, we wish that that it could have
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  Speaker 2: been the last two weeks. It just didn't work out,
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  Speaker 2: and that's sometimes how podcasting goes. But we're back and
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  Speaker 2: we've got so much to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you're hooked on a feeling. Were you
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  Speaker 1: were you referencing Guardians of the Galaxy by any chance?
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe I was, But we aren't to the
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  Speaker 2: point where we talk about the stuff what we've watched recently.
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  Speaker 2: Oh ooh, because we've got the thirty seconds or less.
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  Speaker 1: First, you surprised me, I didn't. Okay, Well let's hurry
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  Speaker 1: and get through this thirty seconds or less.
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  Speaker 2: Then okay, I'm up first and here I go with
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  Speaker 2: the police. One of the stories we missed due to
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  Speaker 2: a semi unplanned hiatus was that Carrie Fisher received a
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  Speaker 2: star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on May fourth,
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  Speaker 2: also known as Star Wars Day. Fisher's daughter Billy Lord
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  Speaker 2: was there to honor carry a wearing a Princess Leiah dress.
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  Speaker 2: And this actor named Mark Hamill, who's best known for
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  Speaker 2: Like Corvette and the Len Commander computer series, he was
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  Speaker 2: there too. It was a very sweet way to honor
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  Speaker 2: the late Carrie Fisher.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome in less I guess positive news, Andrew Lloyd Weber's
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  Speaker 1: musical Bad Cinderella is closing on Broadway. You can, I
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  Speaker 1: guess see it through the very beginning of June. This
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  Speaker 1: ends his I think forty three year streak of having
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  Speaker 1: a show on Broadway because Phantom of the Opera just
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  Speaker 1: closed apparently, though he did work on some other things
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  Speaker 1: that so mad. Cinderella also didn't get a Tony nomination.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that in a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But Weber worked on a bunch of other stuff that
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  Speaker 1: did that I guess is also closing on Broadway anyhow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting. It's weird. Agreed, we should have maybe not
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  Speaker 1: put it in thirty seconds or less.
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  Speaker 2: Well, all I'm going to say is that it's also
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  Speaker 2: interesting that it almost exactly a year after the West
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  Speaker 2: End cast got noticed that their show was shutting down,
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  Speaker 2: and it shut down in June last year. So it's
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  Speaker 2: almost like history repeated itself. But yeah, we'll we'll move on.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the next one, and I'm gonna go. So
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  Speaker 2: Marvel's next Blade film has had a troubled production. There
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  Speaker 2: have been multiple rewrites, there's been a change of directors.
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  Speaker 2: Currently there's a shutdown due to the WGA strike, which
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  Speaker 2: we will also talk about a lot later, and the director.
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  Speaker 2: The new director is Nick Pitzolato, who created the True
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  Speaker 2: Detective series for HBO. He's also the same age as me.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, technically I'm a few months older than he is. Ugh.
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  Speaker 2: He also co wrote the twenty sixteen remake of The
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  Speaker 2: Magnificent Seven, among other things. So here's hoping that the
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  Speaker 2: new Blade won't turn out to be dull.
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  Speaker 1: A clever. All Right, are you old enough to remember Cloverfield?
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  Speaker 1: You know that found footage, very scary movie that traumatized
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  Speaker 1: me for many years. Well, if you are or if
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with ten Cloverfield Lane or its other movie
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  Speaker 1: that I can't remember at the moment, the Cloverfield Paradox.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently the Slush Show website, which was kind of the
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  Speaker 1: viral marketing website that they used for their original movies,
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  Speaker 1: is active again. You can mix up some Slush Show characters.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you. I don't remember the original site,
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  Speaker 1: but I went on there and they said something about
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  Speaker 1: deep seed ingredients, and we knew that there was a
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  Speaker 1: sequel coming along, and I scoured that website for any
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  Speaker 1: Easter eggs I could find, and I was very.
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  Speaker 2: Bad at it. Yeah, from Yander. Remember the old Slush
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  Speaker 2: Show website was similar, and that everyone poured over every
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  Speaker 2: single detail hoping that they were able to decipher JJ
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  Speaker 2: Abrams's secret messages. And I don't think there was anything
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  Speaker 2: to decipher it, just we all assumed that there was
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  Speaker 2: all right here we go, next one and go. We
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  Speaker 2: got a teaser for the film adaptation of Twisted Metal.
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  Speaker 2: It's a video game series that's part demolition derby art
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  Speaker 2: third person shooter. So in the video game, players drive
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  Speaker 2: cars outfitted with weapons and try to destroy everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: But in the teaser Anthony Mackie grooves too if you
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  Speaker 2: steal my sunshine by Len while driving his car, and
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  Speaker 2: then we get a glimpse of Sweet Tooth, the psychotic
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  Speaker 2: clown who drives an ice cream truck. So not a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot there, but you know, you can definitely pick
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  Speaker 2: up on the vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to make of the vibe.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit, like about the writer's strike.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk more about the writer's strike. But
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  Speaker 1: fun fact, as of last week, Lord of the Rings,
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  Speaker 1: the whatever the TV show is House of Dragon to
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  Speaker 1: thirty seconds, Ah, thank you. Rings the Power and House
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  Speaker 1: of Dragon, we're both still in production in the UK.
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  Speaker 1: That's because their scripts were already written. That's not to
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  Speaker 1: say that there couldn't be picket lines drawn in front
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  Speaker 1: of those productions and tapings that would still halt them.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to get them out for all of the fans.
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  Speaker 1: However you feel about that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I've got another video game adaptation trailer to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. This one's for Grand Turismo, which is a
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  Speaker 2: racing game series, and the adaptation is actually based off
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  Speaker 2: a true story in which top Grand Turismo video game
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  Speaker 2: players got to compete for the chance to race for real,
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  Speaker 2: and how one kid managed to go from an armchair
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  Speaker 2: champion to competing for the real thing. Plus we get
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  Speaker 2: to watch lots of scenes of David Harbor b all
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  Speaker 2: grumpy and stuff, which I can't get enough of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, one thing to add. I'm so sorry. When
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  Speaker 1: we first talked about this movie, I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: it didn't interest me at all, But this trailer has
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  Speaker 1: kind of changed my mind. It actually looks pretty fun.
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  Speaker 1: So that just goes to show that you maybe shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: make premature judgments on artistic words.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and to be fair. And to be fair, when
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  Speaker 2: you hear that it's a movie adaptation of a racing game,
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  Speaker 2: you don't think, you know, you think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a direct adaptation of the game and then they
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  Speaker 2: have to invent a story around it. But instead what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing is is the story is inspired by a
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  Speaker 2: competition that actually happened, and in fact, that competitor is
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  Speaker 2: still a race car driver, like a professional race car
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  Speaker 2: driver today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, it's like race car driving doesn't interest me,
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  Speaker 1: although stunt driving does. So I don't understand where the
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  Speaker 1: separation is in my brain. But yeah, it's the way
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  Speaker 1: that the trailer is at least put together makes it
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  Speaker 1: look very engaging and very endearing, so I might actually
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  Speaker 1: watch it. Something else I'm going to do is I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to listen to Dolly Parton's new rock album when
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  Speaker 1: it comes out. That's right. She's got nine originals and
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  Speaker 1: twenty one cover songs coming out in a rock album.
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  Speaker 1: I know Tibblet is excited about it too. He's barking
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  Speaker 1: in the background and most of your song it Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I am too. It's got thirty tracks on it, and
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  Speaker 1: she's got forty two guest artists, and it's just this
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  Speaker 1: giant collab album. And of course she's singing rocking ball
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  Speaker 1: with her goddaughter, Miley Cyrus. Now she can officially feel
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  Speaker 1: like she belongs in the rock and roll Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame because she's finally put out a rock and roll album.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can pre order it now, I just got
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  Speaker 2: I got an email about it earlier today. And you
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  Speaker 2: can get on two CDs or four LPs, so four
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  Speaker 2: vinyl albums, which that's the format I will get if
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  Speaker 2: I actually pre order this nic all right, and last
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  Speaker 2: one here we go. So the WGA strike has also
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  Speaker 2: impacted season two of the Last of Us. So reportedly,
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  Speaker 2: producers had planned to hold auditions and to try and
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  Speaker 2: side stuff the tricky WGA strike stuff because you know,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have any scripts for season two yet. They
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  Speaker 2: thought maybe we can get around this by having actors
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  Speaker 2: full scenes straight from the video game. But the co
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  Speaker 2: creators of season one are both supporting the WGA strike.
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  Speaker 2: They can't do any work on the show in the meantime,
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  Speaker 2: and so ultimately it's been put on hold. What this
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  Speaker 2: means in the long run, like whether or not the
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  Speaker 2: soul pushback, the debut of more fungus among us or not,
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  Speaker 2: we have to wait and find out.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll catch up among my King of the Hill
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  Speaker 1: and my community. Last thirty seconds or last I added
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  Speaker 1: this one very last minute because it came out just
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  Speaker 1: a little while ago. As of recording this episode, Spider
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  Speaker 1: Man Across the Spider Versus dropped its third trailer. It's
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  Speaker 1: honestly mostly the same, although there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: new comedy added to the beginning and another spider creature
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  Speaker 1: at the end. So like, watch the first like third
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  Speaker 1: of it and then skip to like the last fifteen
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  Speaker 1: seconds and everything else you've seen before.
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  Speaker 2: I've helped. Well, now we're ready to move on to
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  Speaker 2: talk about stuff what we've watched recently. Ariel, you seem
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  Speaker 2: to be particularly interested in doing that for some reason.
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  Speaker 1: Because you you've made it seem awful likely that you
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  Speaker 1: went and saw Guardians of the Galaxy three.
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  Speaker 2: What. No, I haven't seen that. No you haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Uh uh oh okay, okay, because I was like, you're like,
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  Speaker 1: that belongs in the what we've watched section, which we
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  Speaker 1: aren't at.
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  Speaker 2: And so I was like, oh, it's because I watched
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  Speaker 2: Guardians of the Galaxy volume one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh uh, but I do, I do have thoughts on that,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, I I had said on a previous
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  Speaker 1: episode that I was worried that I would have to
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  Speaker 1: skip Guardians of the Galaxy three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were. You were treading very close to some
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  Speaker 2: spoilers right now.
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  Speaker 1: Uh no, No, what I'm saying is I I read,
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  Speaker 1: I did read a bunch of spoiler websites. But no, no, no, no, no, Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: listen to me. When I saw The Martian. Okay, back
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  Speaker 1: when I saw The Martian, I had anxiety about watching
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  Speaker 1: The Martian because I didn't know if he would make
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  Speaker 1: it out alive or dead. Knowing either one, I would
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  Speaker 1: have been okay with the movie. It was that uncertainty
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  Speaker 1: ah meed me. Knowing which characters live and which characters
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  Speaker 1: die and how many means that I think I will
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  Speaker 1: be able to watch this movie. Got it based on
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  Speaker 1: reading the spoiler websites. I was not going to spoil anything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aware.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I was just saying like if you were, if
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  Speaker 2: you were going to say, like, now, I'm cool with
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  Speaker 2: seeing it, then people might jump to a conclusion, which
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  Speaker 2: then ultimately jump to spoiling the film. Don't.
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  Speaker 1: Don't jump to a conclusion.
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  Speaker 2: I just I have.
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  Speaker 1: Reconciled myself with the things that I now know happen
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  Speaker 1: in the movie in whichever way they happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's weird that Adam Warlock kills everybody in
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  Speaker 2: the first twelve minutes and then the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: running time is just him listening to the mixed trip.
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  Speaker 1: I usually do this for things like I usually do
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  Speaker 1: this for things like horror movies. I'll read like the
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  Speaker 1: the the parental guidance websites pretty much because they'll be like,
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  Speaker 1: here's it's got this kind of horror in it, and
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  Speaker 1: it breaks it down, so I can know whether or
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  Speaker 1: not I will be able to handle watching that. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of times, I'm getting very like high pitched and
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  Speaker 1: excited about this. A lot of times. The anxiety I
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  Speaker 1: feel is not necessarily that someone lives or die. It dies.
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  Speaker 1: It's the uncertainty. I think. It's why I don't always mind.
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  Speaker 1: I sometimes mind spoilers, but not always.
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  Speaker 2: So Yeah, I can totally identify with the anxiety stuff,
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  Speaker 2: because goodness knows. Like shows that are really good at
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  Speaker 2: ramping up tension, I usually love that. I love a
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  Speaker 2: work that's very good at doing that. Those are my
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  Speaker 2: favorite types of horror movies are not the not the
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  Speaker 2: slasher films or the gore fests. I like a movie
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  Speaker 2: that creates a scary premise and then just very slowly
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  Speaker 2: increases the tension. I find those really effective. But over
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  Speaker 2: the last few years, my anxiety has gotten so bad
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  Speaker 2: that's very hard for me to actually watch those now,
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  Speaker 2: even though those are the movies I prefer. So. I
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  Speaker 2: totally get that anxiety of the unknown, and that if
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  Speaker 2: you just know how it's going to turn out, then
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  Speaker 2: you can watch the story play out the way it's
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  Speaker 2: meant to. And for some folks, like the joy of
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  Speaker 2: discovery is the primary joy they get from watching a movie,
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  Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that that if that's your
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  Speaker 2: case and you want to go in as blind as possible,
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  Speaker 2: I respect that, and in fact, most of the time
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  Speaker 2: that's how I am. But with my yeah and with
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  Speaker 2: my anxiety, now, sometimes I just can't be yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like specifically I did it. One of my friends
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  Speaker 1: asked if I wanted to go see Evil Dead Rises. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen the original Evil Dead and I've watched some
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  Speaker 1: of Ash Versus the Evil Dead, and I like Army
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  Speaker 1: of Darkness, and I was like, well, the initial trailer
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  Speaker 1: for Evil Dead Rises looked really suspenseful. It looked pretty good,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought I could handle it, and then the
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  Speaker 1: second trailer made it look like I absolutely could not
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  Speaker 1: handle it.
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  Speaker 2: So I went and I read.
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  Speaker 1: Specifically what was in this movie, because like, if it
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  Speaker 1: was Texas Chainsaw Massacre and everything was cannibalism, absolutely not,
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  Speaker 1: I'm noping right out of that. That is not a
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  Speaker 1: topic that I can handle very well. Zombies are kind
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  Speaker 1: of okay, but cannibalism, absolutely not. That is a topic
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  Speaker 1: that just upsets me to my very core.
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  Speaker 2: And deads Dead Nights are somewhere in the middle there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So like I wasn't sure I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go see a movie my friend was excited about, but
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  Speaker 1: I did not because i'd I value my sleep and
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: well being more. Have you watched anything geeky other than
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  Speaker 1: Guardians at the Galaxy One?
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  Speaker 2: I did. I did finish Schmicago. I watched the last
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  Speaker 2: episode of that, and I have mixed feelings about the
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  Speaker 2: final episode. I feel like the middle of the episode
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  Speaker 2: everything was trying to rush toward a conclusion, Like I
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  Speaker 2: feel that there needed to be a little more time
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  Speaker 2: with Patrick Page's character to really create a suitable villain.
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  Speaker 2: They did a lot of shortcuts to make him a
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  Speaker 2: bad guy, like a lot of people talk about him,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't actually see him doing much, and I've
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  Speaker 2: thought that was unfortunate. That being said, the last scene
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  Speaker 2: of or really the last sequence of the show, I
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  Speaker 2: thought was very well done. It was very sweet. They
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  Speaker 2: had a repriez of one of my favorite songs from
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the series, so I thought it was it
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  Speaker 2: ended on a very nice note. They could walk away
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  Speaker 2: if they needed to. I don't actually know how they
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  Speaker 2: would set up a season three, especially with the same characters,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe they will. But yeah, it was a I
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  Speaker 2: highly recommend it for any musical fan, Like any musical
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  Speaker 2: theater geek out there should really watch Schmiga Dune, which
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  Speaker 2: I think is good but not great, in Schmicago, which
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  Speaker 2: I think is legitimately a great series.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome. I think I just watched more Mandalorian and
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  Speaker 1: King of the Hill. This weekend I might watch Creed
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  Speaker 1: three or Guardians of the Galaxy three or maybe Renfield.
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  Speaker 1: Renfield is now available for rental at home as well.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I saw that that was the case. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't you know. Also, I saw that ant Man and
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  Speaker 2: the Wasp should be available before too long, and I
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  Speaker 2: haven't watched that yet either, so I feel like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I can, I can watch that one at home. I
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  Speaker 2: know that it's going to be a spectacle film, but
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  Speaker 2: everything I've heard about it is kind of disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoyed it. I went in with very
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  Speaker 1: low expectation. I've already talked about this as I'm just
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  Speaker 1: being a broken record here, but I went in with
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  Speaker 1: very low expectations and I enjoyed it was it a
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  Speaker 1: great movie? No, but it was a fun movie. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be really interested to hear your thoughts after you do
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  Speaker 1: watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope I won't be too biased because I
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  Speaker 2: gave in and watched like a couple of video reviews
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  Speaker 2: and stuff, and I sometimes when I do that, it
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  Speaker 2: ends up adjusting my opinion before I've seen it, which
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: isn't fair. And I recognize that, and it still happens.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: So hopefully that won't be the case.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Hopefully not. Well, we also wanted to talk about some
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: of the things in the Lost episode that happened, like
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Cinema Con.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's the conference where it's for theater companies, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: it's essentially Hollywood appearing in front of a conference in
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: which a bunch of like theater franchise owners all attend,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: various managers of different theaters and stuff. They all go there,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and then Hollywood ends up saying, Hey, we want people
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: to come back to the theaters too, So here's some
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: movies that are coming out. So if you promote the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: heck out of these movies, you're gonna get more butts
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and seats. It becomes like kind of like a pep
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: rally for the movie theater and movie industries, in some
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: cases to the point where like the studios trot out
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: some of the actors to appear at the conference in
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: order to talk it up. It also meant that a
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: metric ton of trailers were shown off at the conference,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and since then some of those trailers have kind of
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: trickled out so that the rest of us plebeians can
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: watch them.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised more trailers haven't come out, but
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I guess everybody's been preoccupied with the strike. One of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the trailers that came out was the Flash, Yes, the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: second trailer, which I thought, again frustratingly, looked very good.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Frustrating. Frustrating for a couple of reasons, right, because
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: we all know of Ezra Miller's troublesome past, and that
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that is something that's hard to It's very hard to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: rally behind a film that is centered around a person
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: who did some very bad things. And then meanwhile, the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: company that's behind that film totally canned and permanently shelved
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a movie that had really good people working on it
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: that none of us are ever going to have a
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: chance to see.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I read an article somewhere that you know
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: asm like this is his last hurrah in the DC universe.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But I don't remember where I found that article, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I haven't found it since.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the last time I saw something, it was still
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: very noncommittal, like maybe Azra Miller will be back, maybe
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: they won't, we don't know. Also, you know, this is
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the second to last movie that's in that block of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the DC universe. The final one will be Aquaman, which
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: comes out at the end of this year.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I apologize, I think I said he
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and I meant today. The other thing we kind of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, just because it's so bizarre, was
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the whole Pinkerton Like we did talk about. It was
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the whole Pinkertons coming to some dude's house because he
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: got an expansion to magic the Gathering early, probably by mistake.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: It's the part of the Roaring Twenties that we didn't
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: want to bring back.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that story was about this guy who his
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: story is he went to like a comic book shop,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: bought a booster pack or whatever, or a deck of
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: cards for magic the Gathering that he assumed was just
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: an existing expansion. In fact, what it was was an
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: expansion pack that had not yet been authorized for release,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and that he then came home and then did a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: video of him on boxing them and throwing them off.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: And then apparently Wizards of the Coast sent the Pinkertons,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: which is like a private detective agency and yeah, thugs
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: in some cases dates all the way back to the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: nineteenth century here in the United States. Anyway, they used
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: some pretty nasty intimidation techniques to lean on the guy
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and suggest that perhaps he could be facing a very
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: long time behind bars for the incredible crime of showing
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: off some cards. And if his story is to be believed,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it's not even his fault, right, I mean, it's his
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: fault that he showed them off, but it's not his
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: fault that he got possession of them. And as you
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: might imagine, generally speaking, the reaction to Wizards of the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Coast and Hasbro has not been particularly positive.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting that that happened right before the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: writer strike because Pinkerton's were historically known for like breaking
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: up picket lines and yes, uh so, uh extra bad timing.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, not good in the first place.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But no, no, no, it was yeah, no matter what
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: like that going to those links is pretty like it's ludicrous, honestly,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: But anyway, it does.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I could, I could maybe maybe just a sliver of
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: understand it if they had already talked to the guy
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and he said absolutely not, I'm going to talk about
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this and share it with the world and I'm not
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: returning it and blah blah blah blah blah. But that
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: didn't happen.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if if you would typically assume something like a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: cease and desist letter would be first, right and not yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: let's send let's send the muscle over to lean on them.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: But uh but again, like we're getting one part of
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the story we don't know and I haven't followed up
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: on this since we talked about in the Lost episode,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: but it does sort of lead us into talking about
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the WGA going on strike. This has obviously been going
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: on for a while now. We also talked about this
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: in the Lost episode. But it's interesting because, well, one,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it's going to impact all projects that are that are
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: in development right now because anyone who is part of
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the union, they are not allowed to work on anything,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Like they can't have a meeting, they can't talk about
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: ideas anything, that's related to writing for film or television,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: they are not allowed to.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Do, including rewrites. Now if I think I heard somewhere
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that technically, if they're contracted to do something already, they
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: could work on it because it's already been contracted. But
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: also they probably wouldn't want to do that because that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: would be crossing picket lines. Anything that's already written can
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: technically be can technically still be filmed, right if you
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: don't need rewrites if it's already scripted. So actors can
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: still go in, crew can still go in, But some
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: people are choosing not to in support of the writer's strike,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And I think we talked about this also in the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: lost episode sag After, which is the acting union, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: also the DGA, which is the Director's Guild of America,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: also have their contracts ending this year, So we might
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: be looking it back to back or overlapping strikes, depending
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: on how long the writers strike goes.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Well and those contracts. Those contracts expire June, so like
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: we are, yeah, we are getting we're just a couple
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of weeks away.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, even if there are actors who
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: are willing to go in because you know, I don't
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like you can still do non union stuff.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: If it's a non union project with non union writers,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: it's ok I think it's very hard to navigate as
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: an actor, but I think it's okay to do because
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: it's not a part of the union anyhow. So like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: if you're creating your own content or doing something for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a friend who's creating their own content and it's not
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: union work, it's a great time to create your own content.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So that's all you got pretty much that in some commercials,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think, I don't know if commercials fall under it,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: but and a lot of commercials are non union right
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: now anyhow, and have been since.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Before the strike.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: But even if people are going into the studio to tape,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: if there's a picket line in front of it, then
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it no longer becomes a matter if we can do it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: If you're an actor and you go into a production
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: where there is a two person Jonathan, we have an
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: article that you put in here about this. If there's
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: two people picketing the writer's strike in front of your
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: production studio and you're an actor and you're not a writer,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: even though technically you can film that, you would then
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: have to cross the picket line to do it, and
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: most actors don't want to do that. Maya Rudolph has
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: chosen not to do that, a couple others I don't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: remember their names offhand.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It's literally, you need a minimum of two people, two
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: union reps, two union members to hold signs, and that
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: makes a picket line. Just like if you have two
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: dots and you connect them, that's a line. Two people,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that's a line. And as you say, Ariel like that
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: line is more than just symbolic, but what it does
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: symbolize is this solidarity in the entertainment world where you
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: have the folks who are responsible for creating the entertainment
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: trying to put pressure on the studios that fund it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And a lot of actors are sympathetic toward the writers.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, after all, they're potentially facing the same thing
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: in just a couple of weeks if their negotiations hit
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a similar snag. One of the things that the WGA
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: negotiations have snagged happens to be around AI. We're going
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: to talk about that with another union in a second.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: But the reason why the writers are particularly worried about
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: AI is not that they think studios are just going
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to use AI to write a script from top to bottom.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It's because if they use AI to do things like
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to generate ideas or to create like a story treatment
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: or something like that, if you're hired on as a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: writer to polish a script or punch it up or
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: rewrite it, you're paid a different rate, a lower rate
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: than if you were there to write it from the beginning.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: So the fear is that studios could use AI to
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: just spit out ideas. Then it falls on a human
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: being to turn that idea and try and make it
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: into something people would actually want to go see. In
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the meantime, they would be paid less for their work
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: because they wouldn't be considered the primary writer on the.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Pants, and they'd also have shorter deadlines and yeah, different
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: like you said, different pay scale, different residuals, which residuals
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: is a huge part of this. It also deals with
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: streaming because there are so many loopholes in streaming residuals
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and how they get paid out due to the fact
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that when these contracts were first written, streaming was still
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: relatively new. But now we're like ten years plus in
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and those those loopholes haven't been fixed and so people
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: aren't making money. There's a local Atlanta actress who tweeted
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that she's been working for almost twenty years. She even
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: worked on Doom Patrol and this in the middle of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: her career and still has never made overscale on a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: full budget feature and she's been on some you know, so,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: how are actress? How are writers supposed to make a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: living if they're basically being pushed into a gig economy
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: even though they belong to a union and can't take
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: other gig economy.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Work, right, Yeah, And meanwhile, the studios are also in
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: as for practicing some pretty creative accounting to show that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: films that make huge amounts of money actually ended up
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: being a loss. And uh, I'm not gonna say it's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: outright of fabrication and a lie, but there's, like I said,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of creative accounting. If you're wondering, how can
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: this movie that made you know, nine hundred million dollars
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: be put down as a loss, it involves, like I said,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of creative accounting. Meanwhile, you've got studio executives
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: who have their own private planes and stuff. So yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: we're Yeah, I think I can pretty safely say I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: am pro union and pro writers on this one.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I definitely am pro union in pro writers on a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: lot of things in the entertainment industry, you know, Like
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I talked about this back during the IATs strike, which
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: thankfully got resolved pretty quickly, which is that like you're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: working incredibly long hours and you're being put through you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: long hours, rigorous things, whether it's just emotional, like if
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you're an actor and you're doing something that's that's that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is a lot of work. People are going to say, no,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's fun, and yes, acting, I think acting is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: fun and it's rewarding, but it's a lot of work
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to step into somebody's shoes and portray their life and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: all of their ups and downs and emotions and hardships
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and all of that. And if you're doing that for
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: over eight hours a day, that's a lot. If you're
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: working on set a lot of times, you know you
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: have to work even longer, and so you need to
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I've already lost my train of thought.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, just that it is. You know, the work
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: we're talking about is important work. It is hard work,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and that you know the purpose of unions is to
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: allow for the collective bargaining leverage in order to make
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: sure that people are compensated and treated properly and that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: they're not being exploited.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You know, the payment is a big part of it,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: but I think I was getting to the treatment as.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Well, because absolutely, I mean.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Hollywood is notorious for treating people very unhealthily.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Well, Ariel, you and I have both been part of
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: an organization that we enjoyed doing the work, but I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: would say that we both experienced the unfortunate feeling of
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: not being valued all the time. By that particular. I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: not going to go into any details, but it is
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: one of those things where like you can love what
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: you do, but if you feel that the organization or
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: company or industry doesn't value you, that really does matter
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a huge amount too. So yeah, there are a lot
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: of considerations that need to be made. And you mentioned
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: IATZI that stands for International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: We also have a story about AATSI. They are actually
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: they've created a committee to look into how are the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: intelligence will have other impacts on the entertainment industry. So
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: this is sort of trying to be proactive because we've
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: already talked about how it could potentially be used to
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: disrupt the writing process. That's just one part of it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: So IOTZI, which really focuses more on sort of the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes folks, like the various crew that keep
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: everything running.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: To electricians, customers.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all the stuff that makes a film possible,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: apart from say the directors or the actors or the writers. Well,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: they are part of IATZI, and so I think it's
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a great idea for them to look into this and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: to start thinking ahead about the sorts of challenges they
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: might face, because there are going to be cases where
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: AI could be really useful. It could be a great
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: tool to do your job better, and there are going
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to be other cases where you would worry that maybe
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a production would lean on AI in order to not
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: have to pay people to do that same job, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: it may not be done at the right level of
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: expertise or quality.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because the acting world is not
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, in my day job, we are also studying
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: how to work with AI and use it as a tool,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: because it is a really interesting tool, but how to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: work with it as opposed to against it. You know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: acting is just and theater and film is just one
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: of those things that is so largely human oriented that
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's really like, I love this story. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: think it's great that they're looking at how to use
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it and how to work it. They're comparing it to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like when films went from silent to talking, or from
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: black and white to color, Like, it's not necessarily a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: bad thing if you learn how to utilize it to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: support the artists and the community and the workers. So
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I'm super glad they're doing this. It was an article
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that actually made me rather happy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I like it when it becomes like
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that proactive look as opposed to, oh, this has happened,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: how do we deal with it? You know, when it's reactive,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: you're already talking about something that's had consequences. So I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: think it's it's good, like you can't always predict how
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it's gonna unfold, but you can at least kind of
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: try to, you know, start thinking in that context and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: hopefully head off problems before they happen. Next up, Yeah,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: let's talk about the stage.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, and a bunch of musicals I have. I do
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: not remember what they're about.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Well, Shucked is about corn.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know that I know what Shucked is about
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: It's not just about corn, It's also about expectations and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: breaking down boundaries. Shucked got I think it tied for
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the second most nominations for the Tony's, which is awesome
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: because my friend is in it. He was a local
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Atlanta actor in community theater. Now he's up in Broadway
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: just kicking button, taking names, and so I'm exceptionally happy
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that Shuck has been nominated for so many Tony's.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned that Andrew Lloyd Webber's Bad Cinderella is
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: closing next month. Part of that may be due to
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the fact that it got completely snubbed at the Tonys,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: like that, no nominations at all, none of the performers,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: none of the set design, lighting, nothing, not a single nomination,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: which is that's like a real slap across the face.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know that that's necessarily warranted. Like I definitely
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: think from everything I haven't seen it, so full disclosure,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: but everything I've read about it, everything I've watched about it,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like I wouldn't have liked the story very much.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: But I think that, you know, it's amazing to me
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that none of the technical aspects of the show got
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: even a single nomination, right, because often that'll at least
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: be the case, Like New York got a Tony nomination
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: for I think Best Musical and that show got totally
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: raked over the calls by critics they did not like
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: New York New York. So it's interesting to me that
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Bad Cinderella was completely snub but New York wasn't. And
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if it's a little Andrew Lloyd Webber backlash.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It might be. I mean, he was pushing for theaters
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to reopen prematurely when Bad Cinerella was in the West End,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I believe, am I remembering correctly?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: You are remembering that correctly. Yes, he put up a
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: huge stink when the UK government was essentially not catering
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: to his demands.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And like I've listened to some of the music
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: from Bad Cinderella, I wouldn't say that it's like offensive
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: to my ears, but it's certainly not something that I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: found catchy or found myself humming later. Again, the story,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to me, it feels kind of like Cinderella meets Repo
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the Genetic Opera. It doesn't feel or new or edgy
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: or original like it's supposed to yeah, and I've heard
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that the commentary it makes plenty of times already.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Well, And we should also point out, because I am
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: guilty of doing this a lot, and I think a
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: lot of casual musical theater fans are also guilty of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: doing this that Andreloyd Webber, his name is always associated
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: with these shows. He is a composer. He does not
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: necessarily write the book of the show or the lyrics
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to a show. In fact, most of the time he
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with that. He co wrote the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: book for Phantom, I.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Think, but he but he only did the music for
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Bad Cinderella. I think somebody else wrote the script, right, Yes.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, someone else wrote the book. Someone else wrote the lyrics.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He did not write either of those. So while you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: while Androloyd Webber has done a lot of stuff or
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: has behaved in certain ways over the years, that has
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: meant that people have perhaps a slightly negative opinion of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: him and his behavior, we should also remember that he's
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: not exactly the one responsible for every aspect of the show. No,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: not by far. So if it is Andrew laid Webber backlash,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: that's unfortunate because it also obviously affects all the other
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: people who worked on it, who you know, poured their time,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: energy and talent into making that show a thing, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I maybe maybe they didn't warrant a nomination.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: It just is hard for me to believe that not
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a single aspect of that show was Tony nomination worthy.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And earlier I said that he was
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: involved in other things that did get Tony Nams this year.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: That's not true. Plenty of his works have. But I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: was getting my wires crossed with the fact that that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Syndrella is closing on Broadway. But a lot of shows
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: are closing after short runs on Broadway. Yeah, and some
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: are very popular, so part of that is pandemic too.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a numbers game.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Well, It's also like every year after the Tonys we
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: typically see notices about shows closing. Often, if a show
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: does not garner a lot of Tony nominations, the producers
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: will decide to just go ahead and cut and run,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: because the thought is that without that Tony's boost, a
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: show's just not going to get the houses it needs
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to be profitable, and it just means it's going to
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: cost more and more money to keep the show going
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and you're going to it's you're just going to keep
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: losing more money as time goes on. I remember when
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I went to Broadway and I caught king Lear and
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal was in that one, and I didn't even
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: know who he was at the time, and I saw
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the king Lear and I was like, that was really good. Well,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: it didn't get any Tony nominations either, and shortly after
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: the nominations were announced, the notice went out that that
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: show was closing. So it's it doesn't just affect musicals.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: The Tonys really can mean whether or not a show
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: will continue for a while or if it's just gonna
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: close down in the near future.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Tony's aren't just musicals, though, they also are straight stage plays. Yeah,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: but it is interesting because like k Pop closed down
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and k Pop is actually nominated this year and yet
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: it's still closed. Strange Loop, I think was nominated last
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: year or the year before and it closed. Beetlejuice was nominated.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I don't remember Strange Loop or Beetle Juice won anything,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: but they that's also closed. So it just listen Live
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Theater is really struggling right now because it just hasn't
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: recovered from the pandemic, partily because the pandemic's not over
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: yet and partially because people are just hesitant to get
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: back to their full schedules as well.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: We are also Broadway is wicked expensive.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Broadway is wicked expensive. But like local Atlanta theater is
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: struggling right now, live theater and local in Atlanta is struggling.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: If you look at on stage or Dad's like, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: don't know the particulars about it, but I know that
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: their numbers are not back to where they were pre pandemic,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: and that can hurt a bottom line. So if you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: have theaters that you love and you're comfortable going out, yeah,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: show them some love.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, you mentioned.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: If you're not comfortable going out, show them some love
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: until you are comfortable going out.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know, maybe maybe if it's a
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: nonprofit theater, you know, maybe consider donating.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: So you mentioned when we were talking about stuff what
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: we had watched King of the Hill, that you had
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: been watching some King of the Hill. And one of
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the stories we were going to cover last week was
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: about the King of the Hill reboot and what people
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: should expect.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, so we are getting King of the Hill. It's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: like it's been confirmed Hulu has picked it up, which
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: is where I'm watching King of the Hill right now.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It's taking a fifteen year time jump, which is really
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: interesting to me because the article on screen Rant talks
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: about it. It opens up a whole bunch of doors
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for like Hank and Peggy Hill to be dealing with
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: new technology and stuff, which is funny and I see
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: how that works. Bobby Hill is going to be a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: full blown adult, and part of the joy of the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: original King of the Hill series and my watching of
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it is the fact that he is naively a child
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: through it. So I don't know how that's going to play.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whether or not he will be just as naive
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: as an adult, or if they want to kind of
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: steer away from that, because it seems like that would
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: be a little, you know, a little limiting. I wonder
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: if if there's milk in the fridge that is about
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to go bad and there it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Goes Oh, that would be great. That was I remember
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: that episode. I have watched that one, but it's.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: My favorite line ever in King of the Hill. It's
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: my favorite Bobby line in the entire show's run.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: It's when he was on his add medication. Yeah, the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: creators who are also the creators of Beavis and Butt Heead,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: which is honestly why I didn't watch King of the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Hill initially, because I'm like, I do not like Beavis
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and butthead I'm not going to enjoy the show. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: don't even think it's a particularly pretty cartoon, so I
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: didn't watch it. But I'm really enjoying it now. They're
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: very busy, so there's actually no timeline, and of course
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: this is also like nothing's been written yet. They're still
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: figuring out how they want to do it so that
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: it'll be as wonderful as the original series. So delayed
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: by writer's strike as well, but no definitive deadline on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: it yet. I also know that, like Britney Murphy played
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Blue Anne and she's passed away a while ago now,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: so like, how do you how do you handle that?
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: They had some people voicing characters who were not those
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: ethnicities as well, so they'll have to adjust that.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one other little thing that I didn't add into
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the lineup, but I figured it's worth mentioning. Recently, Bob Iger,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: CEO of Disney, announced that Disney Plus and Hulu are
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: merging together. That by the end of this year that
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: will be a single streaming service. We also know that
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: if you're paying for the ad free version of Disney Plus,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: that amount is going to go up again by how much.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know when it'll happen. I don't know if
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: it'll happen again. After Disney Plus and Hulu merges, I
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: don't know, but it will be more expensive.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'll just just do drop out. Oh, that's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: something I watched this week. I watched the first episode
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of Ravening War, which is a prequel to Crown of Candy,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: which is a Dimension twenty series that Brendan Lee Mulligan wrote,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: like he created the universe ward. It's based on the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: food Pyramid. Matt Mercer is dming it. The first episode
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: dropped on Wednesday. It's really good. I liked Crown of Candy,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't my favorite. But I liked the first
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: episode of Ravening War so much that I almost watched
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: it twice.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Brendan Lee Mulligan. I like him as
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: a DM, but I think I really like him as
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: a player more. Not that not that he's a bad
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: not that he's a bad DM. He's not a bad DM,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: he's a great DM. I just like to see him
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: messing with someone else who's DM.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well this, I just the episode flowed so well.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It's it's a great table of players. Matt Mercer is
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a great DM. He's really good at a building story,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and especially where you're in a setting that is largely political,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you need to have a lot of that that world
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: building an intrigue put in there, and brendan Ley Mulligan
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: was good at it. But I think I think the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: two of them playing off each other is delightful. It's
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: just it's so good, it's so good.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Well, one thing that we hope it will be so good,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: so good when it does grace our movie screens, which
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: who knows where a writer strike. It's everything's kind of
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: up and up in the air. Is the sequel to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the classic film Bittleges.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it had been rumor and it had not been rumor,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and then it had been just vaguely confirmed. But now
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: it's actually confirmed. They're saying September sixth, twenty twenty four
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: for a rearlease date with Tim Burton and Michael Keaton
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and why not own a ride all back and they
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: have confirmed that Jenna Ortego will be playing the role
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: of Lydia's daughter, so and that all the.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Rumors are true and that that date, if it does
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: come out on that date, and if Blade also continues
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: without without slipping its date again, then it means they'll
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: be coming out the same day that Blade comes out.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I remained skeptical. I remained skeptical that either of those
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: movies will be ready by September of twenty twenty four.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But we'll see me Maybe they'll both be pushed back
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the same exact amount still be released on the same
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: day and we can do a double feature.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's pretty easy too, because you're still
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: pretty early in the alphabet, right because Blade and Beutal Juice. Also,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Monica Blucci is now said to be joining the the
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: filming or the film and she will be playing get
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: ready for this Beatle Juice's wife. Holy cats. Wow, So yeah, yeah,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: that was a variety. Variety reported that Monica Blucci was
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: joining to play Beatle Juice's wife. Monica Bluechi if you
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: do not know who that is, a drop dead gorgeous
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: actress from Italy. I think of her as the incredibly sensual,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: dangerous assassin slash secret agent character in the Brotherhood of
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: the Wolf movie, where she wore some of the most
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: amazing and not at all practical costumes.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I never saw Brotherhood. Well that's not sure. I've seen
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: like bits and pieces of Brotherhood of the Wolf. Also,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Justin throws in it. We don't know who's he's playing
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: as well, but he's married to Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, not
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: the I'm not familiar.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Not the Prime Minister of Canada. I misread it the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, what, Yeah, I mean that would be
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: pretty funny.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Probably, I mean it would be a heck of a
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: get Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they aren't. They aren't. Look, they aren't Dune.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: They can't get the Prime Minister of Canada. Dune also
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: has not gotten the Prime Minister of Canada.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I said that. That was Ariehl's smooth
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: as silk segue for us to talk about the trailer
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: for Dune ripping red. Yeah, Dune too, keep on being Sandy.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Oh no, but yeah, it is largely sandy the the trailer.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: So I we talked about it when Dune one came out.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like Dune one ended in a place that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: made it really hard for anyone who wasn't intimately familiar
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: with the property already and already a fan of it
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to care about the second movie coming out. Yeah, however,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the second trailer does look pretty cool, even though it
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: does reference some stuff that if you were not a
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Dune fan when you went to see the first movie yet,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't even remember from the first movie.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it's Yeah. Also, it's got some crazy
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: visuals that are unique to what happens in the second
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: half of the story. So it's going to catch your
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: attention that way, and you're gonna probably watch that trailer
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: saying what the heck was that? And it is? It
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: is really weird. It is really weird that Timothy Challameay
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: in the middle of it sings hopelessly devoted to you.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, so bizarre, Larry Sandy, I don't I mean, And
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: then he pulls out, you know, some chocolate Barshmath's pocket,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: which how they didn't melt in the desert.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We still haven't gotten that trailer yet, right,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: like that was one of the ones they should really
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: want to come. Yeah, but no, getting back to Dune too,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: So I watched this trailer. I watched the first Dune
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: movie h and I remember thinking it was fine. That
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: was actually a pretty good science fiction film. But as
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I was watching this trailer, I was like, I think
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I may have to rewatch Dune because I don't know who.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if half of these characters were already
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: introduced and I just don't remember them, or if they're new.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, some of them are new, Like Florence Pugh.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I just spit on myself. Florence pew is also. I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: mean in the trailer her.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Name became kind of like an automotopoa there.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I finally watched her hot Ones last night, and I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: think I'm getting like residual hot wing effects from her.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: No, so, like there are definitely new characters in the trailer.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad idea, especially if you're
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: not like super familiar with Dune. To watch the first
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: movie again, although it's really slow. It's a very slow
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: movie and it's long and it's long. But yeah, I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: will watch Doom too, I have to. I will probably
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: enjoy it because I'm I am a fan of the
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: original story.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm sure I will see it. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: feel like it's one that I really need to make
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: the journey out to the theater to see, which probably
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: means I'll have to find someone to go watch it
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: with me, because I don't think my partner has any
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: interest in it whatsoever. But but it's the kind of
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: tones either. So well, maybe maybe we'll do a podcast
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: date and we'll go and we'll watch and we can
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: even record afterward and our reactions or whatever. But which
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: would be a cool thing for us to start to do.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: We would be nice to hang out again. But the Yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: if you watch this trailer, you can see like these
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: are visuals that are really they really need that space
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: and that that sound system to give you the experience
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: that the filmmaker intended. You're as much as I love
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the watch from home experience because of how convenient it
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: is and how lazy I am, I recognize that I
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: am not really having the experience that the filmmakers intended.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Most of the time.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I did see Dune one in theaters, but everybody was
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: masked and it was a private like we all privately
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: rented the theater, so and it wasn't full, so it
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: was a small amount of people in a private room,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: all very masked up. Still maybe a little bit of
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a risk, but it definitely benefited from being in the theater.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been boosted so many times now I feel
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: like I could walk through COVID and come out the
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: other side clean.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So boost me up, but I cut. Yeah, Okay, the
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: next we have more trailers to talk about. The next
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: is the Outlaw Johnny Black. I don't remember if I
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: knew this was coming out or not, but it's it's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: like a spiritual success or to Black Dynamite.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it feels like it's a Rudy Ray
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Moore blaxploitation kind of film, starring Michael Ji White as
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: a cowboy. So if this it all sounds familiar with
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: you to you rather, it may be because way back
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, he Michael Jai White created a trailer
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: as a concept for this movie, Outlaw Johnny Black. In fact,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: if you go back, you can actually find it on YouTube.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: It's a twenty eighteen trailer that was just there to
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: kind of show off a concept, and if you watch
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: the latest trailer of the actual movie that is coming
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: to streaming later this year, you'll see like the narration
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: is beat for beat the same. The action shots you
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: see are very similar, but they relied on a lot
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: of insert shots for that essentially fake trailer back in
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Now they've actually made the movie. One thing
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I will note is that as I watched the trailer
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: for the second time, I caught something I didn't catch
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: the first time. And I usually am not the person
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: who catches this sort of stuff, but there's a bit
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: where they're showing a group at a church and they're
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: talking about praise dancing, and one of the women raises
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: her arms up in the air and I see on
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: her left arm as an Apple Watch, and I'm like, well,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: that just distracted me. That just pulled me out, because
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: this is supposed to be a Western, Yeah, sat in
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the Old West, and there's an Apple Watch on this
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: woman's arm.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I was very confused at first, because when you look
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: up up the Outlaw Johnny Black on Google, the first
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: thing you get is twenty twenty one adventure comedy, and
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: then everything else is twenty twenty three trailer a week ago.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Did you did you watch Black Dynamite?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but I've seen, like Rudy Ray
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Moore movies, So I need to watch Black Dynamite. I
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: haven't seen that one.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I will say it was a lot of
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: fun for the genre. We actually own it, so I'm
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: and I love Michael Jay White. He's such a good actor,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: so I'm very excited for this. It also kind of
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: feels like a little bit more aware version of Blazing Saddles.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think like movies like this that play
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: with those tropes and are poking fun at stereotypes. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: think are they can be. They can be great movies,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: right if they're handled the proper way. And this one
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: looks like it's just like you will not be able
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: to take this film seriously. If you do, then you
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: are watching it wrong.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, a trailer I thought you wouldn't be able
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: to take seriously, but then I watched it and it
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: feels very genuine and heartfelt. Is the trailer for Flaming Hot,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the story of the Flaming Hot Cheetoh.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Which when I saw this in our lineup aerial, I
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: was wondering if you'd done plumb went out of your.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Mind and then you watch the trailer.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Then I watched the trailer and yeah, kind of like
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the grand Tarisma thing, right, Like, this is the story
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: behind how a person in a somewhat humble situation ended
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: up coming up with this idea and created, I mean,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: a multi million dollar marketing idea, like a thing that
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: was truly a huge and continues to be a huge
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: success for this particular company.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it even like, even though it's an underdog
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: success story, it feels very there's a lot of humor
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: in it, but it feels very grounded and real and
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: genuine and just like they aren't playing it for laughs,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: but there's plenty of laughs. It appeals to me way
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: more than the trailer for the Air Jordan movie appealed
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I just I'm I don't I can't
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: even eat flaming hatches, and I want to watch this movie.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it looks I think it looks like
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: it could be a fun like a fun sort of
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: a not quite a biopic because it's got a lot
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: more like cinematic entertainment stuff worked into it, but like
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: a lighthearted and as you say, heartwarming story about innovation.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's telling a story that I never
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: heard before, So I thought that was kind of cool.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we won't even have to wait that long
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: for it. It's not going to be delayed by the
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: writer's strike because it's coming out on June ninth on
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Hulu Plus or on Hulu and Disney Plus.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then we've got the trailer for Meg too.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: So Meg from Family Guy, she's the daughter who everyone
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: always picks on. She finally gets her revenge in this one.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the trailer.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: You didn't want I did.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I did watch it.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I'm being silly, Okay, I was about to say, because
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I really need your opinion. So Meg one was only
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: slightly above Sharknado and its self aware referential humor.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously about a megal about a megaladawn shark that
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: was trapped in the Marianna's trench and then goes up
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: through the barrier between the Marianna's trench and say, the
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: rest of the water and becomes and becomes a ginormous
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: killing machine. Meg two says, Hey, you remember how big
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: the Meg was in the Meg We made it more biggerer.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, and like the Meg knew, they knew what a
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: silly shark attack concept they were making, right, much better
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: production value than Sharknado. I would say probably a better
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: script than Sharknado Meg two. Like there's so much literal
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: jumping the shark in movie. Yeah, but it also it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: so I don't know, it's so brightly colored and goofy
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that I'm almost like, I almost want to watch this.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I know, I don't enjoy shark attack movies. I've seen Jaws.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: It still scares the Jesus out of me. I watched
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Deep bluecy so it's not my favorite genre of movie.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I don't super like it because I like swimming in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: the ocean too much. But this one looks so dorky
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I may just have to watch it.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if Jason Statham gets in a kickboxing
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: fight with the shark, then maybe I'm in.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: He probably does, or a giant Kraken, because that looks
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: like the other monster.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does look like it's gonna be like giant
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: shark versus or shark versus giant octopus or whatever the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: heck that Asylum film is. It looks like it's that,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: but with a much larger budget. And I don't know, Ariel,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: this just that's just that's just it's a monster movie,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and it's it's like you say, it clearly has the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: tone of something like a Lake Placid, right, like some
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: monster movie that's got its tongue, it firmly in its cheek.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Sometimes that works for me. There was one of the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Piranha movies where that worked for me. It was so dumb,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: but it knew what it was and it was okay
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: about it that it worked for me. But there are
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: other ones where I watch it them just like especially
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: asylum movies. Those are the worst because that that those
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: are made by committee. But but I can't tell where
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: this one falls.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it's not an asylum movie.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: No, I know that. I'm just saying, yeah, Like like
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: they they make those kinds of movies, but those are
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: like like bottom of the barrel, lowest possible effort style movies,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: and and they actually set out to make a bad movie,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and that almost never works for me. M M.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I will say Jason Statham is one of those actors
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: that I much like John Cena. I did not appreciate
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: their comedic genius for a long time, but he's very funny.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Like I watched him in Spy and that was hilarious.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I like Jason Statham. However, I don't trust
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: him because he's been in so many terrible movies.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's also been in some great ones,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Like don't get me wrong, he's been in some really
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: fantastic movies.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like he I wouldn't say, I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: wouldn't use the word discerning to describe him.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: No, would you consider Spy a good movie or one
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: of the really bad ones?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I might say you should watch that and then
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: tell me what you think about it, because normally I'm
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: not a big fan of like Melissa McCarthy underdogmies. But
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: this one was a lot of fun. I mean, and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: not just because Jason Statham and Peter Sarah Finowitz were
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: in it being complete goofballs. It was a lot of fun.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, Ariel, Yeah, you know, here's a smooth segue from
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Meg two. And I'm pretending like we didn't just have
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: a full discussion about a different show and then we
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: had to cut it because your computer died. Okay, Hey,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Isaac Asimov wrote the foundation and then they turned it
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: into a show, and season one already played and now
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: season two is coming out, and their trailer came out
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: for it what'd you think of Foundation season two trailer?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: It makes me want to watch Polygon was right, it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: makes me want to watch Foundation season one. So I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: can't understand what's It started off looking boring and by
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the end it looks super exciting. That's what I feel
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: about the Foundation two trailer. Also, I would have segued Meg,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Meg had a two, Foundation has a two? Your Seguy's better.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to do the meta commentary on why
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: things sound weird well, because then our listeners know, oh,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: something happened. And if you're wondering what show we skipped,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: just look up the trailer for Elsbeth and you'll catch up.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, Foundation obviously an incredibly important science fiction
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: series written by Isaac Asimov, and I didn't even I'm
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: sure we talked about it, but I had no memory
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: of them adapting that into a series. So when I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: saw the trailer for season two, my reaction was, I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: didn't even know there was a season one.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of those ones that we had
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: talked about, but you don't remember. And I think part
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: of it's because it was on Apple TV, and then
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: part of it's because which you have now, So now
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: that you're done with the Chimicago, you can probably jump
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: into it. Season one didn't super follow the books, and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: that bothered some people.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I mean because then you start asking
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: the question, why bother doing an adaptation if you're not
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: going to stick to the like you don't have to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: be slavish to the source material. You can make interpretations
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: and change things around and stuff, but if you're not
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: actually following the source material, then it just feels like
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: you're appropriating the name for the purposes of exploiting the IP.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: So I can totally get people being upset about that.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: It's it's a dangerous thing to do a slow burn
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: with an adaptation. It can really pay off if you're
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: doing something original like Severance. You know, Severance did a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: real slow burn, but man did it pay off well
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: for that first season. But it's different when it's an adaptation.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I think the tailor looked neat. I did not really
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: understand what was going on. But then also full disclosure,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I actually have not read the Foundation series.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I haven't either, I think my mother has, but I do,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: like as Isaac Asimov, I've obviously not everything that the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: writer has written is it is something I enjoy, but
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed a lot of Asimov's stories. I read a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: lot growing up. I fall into the camp of I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: actually liked the old I Robot movie with I think
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: it was Hailey Joel Osmond and Will Smith.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Was Hailly Joel Osmond in that he was an AI.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: I know Will Smith. Will Smith was an Eye robot.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Though, yes, yes, I get those two confused. I enjoyed both,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: so I don't necessarily have to hold true to the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: fullness of Asimov's writing. I can enjoy big conceptual spin offs,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: so I definitely I'm definitely going to catch up on
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Foundation season one so I can try season two. It'll
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: be a lot easier if Tony enjoys it, although he
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: didn't super enjoy the Expanse, which was also big space
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: drama political.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, when that was one of the gut some
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: pretty decent reviews, as I recall, I have not seen it.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed it well enough. I think it suffered
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: from there are so many characters and so many storylines
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: going on that it's a little.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Hard to follow, gotcha. Yeah. Game of Thrones itis.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so it just for my husband, It just
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the characters didn't grab him in a way that made
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: him care about them right away, got it, which you
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: know happens. But yeah, I think the trailer for season
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: two looks good, especially if you liked season one. Check
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: it out. Another trailer for something I completely did not
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: know was coming out is a trailer for Poor Things,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: which is like a Frankenstein esque type story written by
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: the person who did The Lobster, which was a really
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: weird movie I've heard.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Lobster was. Yeah, the Lobster was a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: really interesting high concept film. Good oh, Yorgos, Yorgos lanthemos.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: So the Lobster was about you know, people having to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: try and find a mate by a certain amount of
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: time and if it doesn't work out, then they get
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: turned into their stuff like lobsters. So yeah, weird concept there.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: In this case, it looks like the idea is a scientist.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Is it Willem Dafoe playing him? I can't remember who
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: it was. I remember I saw the trailer, but I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: don't remember who who was playing the scientists at this point,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: but scientists, Yeah, yeah, was that right? Is Willem Dafoe?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, groovy look at that. I was like, as I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: was saying, and I'm like, are you sure about that? Now?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, now, but he brings a woman back to life,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: and this woman then ends up kind of getting involved
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: with a sort of rapscallion lawyer type played by Mark Ruffalo,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and then hijinks ensue. I will say I thought the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: trailer was really interesting. The visuals are so arresting and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: not at all realistic, like it's there are there are
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: environments that are so incredibly artificial, but that adds to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: the the feel of the film.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: And it's It also kind of focuses on the fact
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: that because she she has died and come back, she
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't really care about societal standards anymore and finds like
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: a level of liberation and freedom in that at least
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: according to the synopsis.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that the font they used in
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: the trailer, I'm familiar with that font. It's like that
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: really thin, kind of creepy wavy font is impossible for
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: me to read people's names. When it's shown up on
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I was like, I can't read who this Like, who
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: is I'm going to have to try and just recognize
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: this actor because I cannot read their name in this font.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Well, and it it's hard because obviously Mark Ruffalo looks
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: like Mark Ruffalo, but Willem Dafoe has some makeup and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: prosetic on him that makes him look a little different.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And Emma Stone has black hair which makes her look different,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: so black long hair.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: So I think the trailer looks really cool like it's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I did too. It doesn't look like other movies, and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: that's not a bad thing, and that, you know, it
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: kind of is actually giving me sort of vibes of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: like Tim Burton, because a lot of Tim Burton movies
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: include sets and set pieces that don't look realistic at all.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: They're very heightened, and it almost looks like that sort
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: of approach, not in the swirly creepy way of Tim Burton.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Like it's very colorful in some of those in some
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: of those locations, but it is exceedingly artificial.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely is quirky. I'd say less sad boy
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: feeling than most Tim Burton stuff too.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's not even though even though it's a
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: topic like it's interesting, it's almost like your gust Lanthemus
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: is taking on a subject matter that Tim Burton normally
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: would do.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but like also like also visually intriguing. I'd
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: say along the lines of like less grandeur than Dracula
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: or The Cell. But also it's just it's all very interesting.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: There have been lots of movie Wes Anderson has a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: unique visual style. It's it's kind of like if you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: took Wes Anderson and you took Tim Burton and you
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: mashed them up together.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: That you're, yeah, you nailed it. That is exactly what
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: this feels like. And uh and I'm on board, Like
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I am, I am intrigued, me too.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Also, the trailer does a really good job of setting
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: up the premise of the movie without giving away too much.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: So I left watching the trailer genuinely curious about what happens.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, Well, our last story we have is our
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: traditional horror movie trailer. Some of this case on a movie.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: It's a series.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one didn't scare me.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's not very scary. We got a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: trailer for The Walking Dead, Dead City. You had another
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: spin off of The Walking Dead, and in this one
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: is it I think it's Mark, Is it Margaret? I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: can't remember her name, it's what's that?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: It's Maggigie Maggie.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I was on the right track. So
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: it's Maggie and Meagan who are off to Manhattan to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: try and rescue Maggie's son who's been kidnapped by someone.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: In our notes, I wrote, you could also call this
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Zombies take Manhattan or escape from Zombie New York.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Yes. I here's the thing. Meagan was so to me
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: at least, was such a horrible, unlikable.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Person, especially to Maggie.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Especially to Maggie and other people.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Too, Like, yeah, but he's the one who killed her husband,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: so yeah.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I stopped watching when they were like, oh what.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: We talked about this in a very early episode of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: our reboot of Large Nursery Collector, like when they started
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: being like tune in for when he bashes this person's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: head in with a baseball that I'm like, that's that's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: torture porn. That's that is something that I am not
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: on board with. I can't I can't revel or be
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: excited or look forward to that. And it happens in
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: the comic too, so it's not like the TV show
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: just made it up. But I was out at that point. Yeah,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: and I love the actor. I love gosh, what is
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: his name?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember. I remember he was in Supernatural
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: as the Daddy, right, Yeah, he was.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: In Supernatural as the Daddy. He was also the comedian
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: and Watchman Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jeffrey. Because I always want to say, like Harry
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Dean Stanton, I'm like, Nope, that's a different person.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: He's such a great actor, and he's really good at
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: making charismatic bad guys. Yeah, also sympathetic good guys too.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's got great It's weird to use this
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  Speaker 2: in the terms of TV and film, but he's got
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  Speaker 2: great stage presence, right, Like, he's able to He's able
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  Speaker 2: to command a scene and go from being you know,
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  Speaker 2: charming but menacing to outright terrifying in a moment without
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  Speaker 2: doing like a massive transformation. He's he can do it
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  Speaker 2: in a very subtle way, and it's just really riveting
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  Speaker 2: to watch. The problem I have is that this this show,
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  Speaker 2: based upon the trailer, looks like it's I mean, when
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  Speaker 2: I said Escape from Zombie New York, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: that's being way too on the nose with it, because
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  Speaker 2: there sections of the trailer that make it look like
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  Speaker 2: things that happen in Escape from New York with Kurt
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  Speaker 2: Russell way back in the John Carpenter film. Like it's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: like there's a there's a scene at a basketball court
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  Speaker 2: where I'm like, okay, this is taken from Escape From
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  Speaker 2: and then they're the whole thing about like a a
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  Speaker 2: some sort of almost like a warlord type character in
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  Speaker 2: charge of Manhattan. I'm like, well, that's like the Duke
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  Speaker 2: of New York in Escape from New York. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was all it all felt like they were they said,
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  Speaker 2: how about we do Walking Dead, but also we make
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  Speaker 2: it Escape from New York or muppets take Manhattan, and
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  Speaker 2: which are two very different things and yet both fit.
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  Speaker 2: So I felt like this was really derivative.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely get that also a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: like the Stand, there's a whole well, I guess in
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: the Stand there are there there are not necessarily people
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: who are zombies, because if you get sick in the Stand,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: you die.
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  Speaker 2: But but in the Stand you do have the story
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  Speaker 2: of a essentially a cult leader type character who amasses
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  Speaker 2: a huge following of people, and the I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing of the Stand is it's the good guys
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  Speaker 2: making a stand. Against the bad guys. So yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: is some of that going on here.
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  Speaker 1: Too, exception of it looks like it's bad guys making
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  Speaker 1: stands against bad guys. That's the thing is, Like I
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: stopped wily. I didn't watch the season where all of
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: a sudden, I can't remember the character's name, Steven Ywenz. Yeah,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Glenn's had got dashin. I said, no, I'm out. I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: noped out. I watched it up to that point, and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it well enough, though it was very bleak
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't, like I couldn't watch a lot of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: it at once, far more bleak than Last of Us
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: in my mind. But so maybe they made Megan more
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: of a sympathetic character. Maybe he has that journey in
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the comics as well. I don't know. I haven't finished
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  Speaker 1: all of the comic though I do own it, But
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I just I can't as much as I love Jeffrey
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Dean Morgan and I love his acting style, like I
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: can't get on board with rooting for this character.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I bounced off Walking Dead pretty early on,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: and for the same reasons you mentioned, same reason why
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: I bounced off Game of Thrones, right like I was
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: tired of watching the few characters whom I felt were
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: redeemable either get tortured more and more and more and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: punished for being not the worst person in the world,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: or they just got outright killed, And so all that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: are left are the terrible people. And the question is
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: which terrible person is going to outlast all the other
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: terrible people? And I'm like, listen, I live in the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: real world. I don't need that as my escapist fantasy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. One, I noped out of a lot of the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: middle of Game of Thrones. I watched like the first
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons, and then watched like the last two.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it was I read the books. I read
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: the books up to where they currently have left off.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Then I heard what happened in the show shortly after
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: the books kind of drop off. And when I heard
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: about a specific thing that happened, I said, there is
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: no way I will ever read any of the other
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: books or watch the show. And it's not a judgment
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: on the material so much as it's recognizing that I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: will find absolutely no joy in it, and life is
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: too short for me to spend time making myself miserable.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I've not watched Game of Thrones or I mean,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: I've not read Grant Game of Thrones. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I will. Honestly, I haven't finished a book in a
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: very long time. That's a goal for me for twenty
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty twenty four. But I do so much
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: like geek media and like script reading. When I get
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: a script for an audition, I spend a lot of
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: time dissecting that sucker, even if it's just a couple
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: of lines. Like if I get a three line audition,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I'll spend like a half an hour an hour on
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: it at least, just building the world of the person.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: And so by the end of the day, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to necessarily read more, but I love reading.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: So that's my goal for twenty twenty three twenty twenty four.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Please please everybody, don't hate me. I do want to
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: read more geek books. I want to read Murderbot Diaries
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: and Old Man's War and a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to. I mean, I haven't been reading
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  Speaker 2: a lot either. In fact, most of the books I've
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: consumed recently have been on audible. It's been a long
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: time since I've actually held an honest to Goodness book
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: and read it, although I did do that with the
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: complete works of Shakespeare. But you know, you may have
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: heard of that that's been around for a while. But yeah,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: that kind of wraps up the news we have, including
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: the stuff that was some of it anyway, that was
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: included in the lost episode.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we hope you enjoyed the journey as much as
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: we enjoyed taking it, Jonathan, if they want to talk
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: to us about, if they want to reach out about
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: any of the things that we talked about to share
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: their opinions, or if they're like, yes, please bring back
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: your mashups, here's an idea, or here's topics we want
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: you to talk about when news inevitably will get slow
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: during the rider strike. We do have your topic still,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: if you've already given them to us, we have not forgotten.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: We are working on them. But if they have new
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: topics or anything else they'd like to reach out about,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: how do they do that?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Well, what you can do is you rise up early
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: before the dawn. You go outside, You lay down in
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: the dewy grass, and you focus on a single blade,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: find a drop of dew on it. You keep your
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: focus on that drop of dew, and you whisper your
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: question into the drop of dew, and you must sit
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: there and watch until the sun rises and that drop
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: of dew slowly evaporates, and when the last visible trace
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: of that do is gone, the question will arrive to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: me and I will give you your answer.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: And if your attention span isn't that big, although if
• 1:20:50
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• 1:20:52
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