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Reds want Kyle Schwarber, Brewers flip-flop about Freddy P + Potential landing spots for Bo Bichette · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hot corner time. We got some fresh notes from Ken
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Speaker 1: Rosenthal this morning in his column. Let us begin with
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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber. There is interest from the Reds. There's interest
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Speaker 1: from Schwarber. AJ is laughing why because if you keep
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Speaker 1: reading the article you can see that the math is
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Speaker 1: not mathing. I would love to see this, Like, if
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Speaker 1: there's someone that would be more perfect, please tell me
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Speaker 1: who it would be. AJ, offense needed thump. This would
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Speaker 1: be a great guy to hit behind Ellie. This would
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Speaker 1: be a great guy for a very young clubhouse.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: He's from Ohio, grew up going to Reds games, the
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Speaker 1: whole deal. There's interest from him. It's just that he's
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Speaker 1: probably going to get like five years, one thirty to
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Speaker 1: one fifty mil. The Reds. I've already announced that they're
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Speaker 1: going to keep payroll in the same range as last year.
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Speaker 1: That gives them about twenty million dollars to spend. That
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Speaker 1: alone won't cover Kyle Schwarber. And there are not a
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Speaker 1: lot of big time movable contracts like in the article, AJ,
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Speaker 1: Gavin Lux's name is thrown out there. That's five million.
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Speaker 1: That's still not getting you there. So am I just
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Speaker 1: saying what's going am I like basically narrating your brain right.
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Speaker 2: Now, let me just say that Scott did who we
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Speaker 2: have on earlier Noah Hiles, who does he work for
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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates?
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Speaker 1: He don't work for the pirates.
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Speaker 2: Well, he works covers.
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Speaker 1: Was not hire him?
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Speaker 2: Yes? He cover? Excuse me, he covers the pirates? What
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Speaker 2: did I ask him? Are they just going to say
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Speaker 2: they're in on a guy to make the fans happy?
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Speaker 2: Do we really think we have to look at track
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Speaker 2: records that the Castellini family who owns the Red, and
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Speaker 2: they have a great restaurant and hotel. They know I'm
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Speaker 2: Scott Still I stayed their first spring Trainey called Sanctuary
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Speaker 2: wonderful place. But do you think that they're going to
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Speaker 2: take their money and put it into Kyle Schwarber after
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Speaker 2: the track record of never having done this in their
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Speaker 2: entire life, and all of a Suddeny're gonna flip uwitch
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Speaker 2: and say we're gonna sign Kyle Swarber for three years,
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million, Like, no, it's not gonna happen.
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Speaker 2: And to get him to go to Cincinnati. I know
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Speaker 2: he's from there, and we're won the Red's games and
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Speaker 2: this and that, blah blah blah blah blah. They're gonna
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Speaker 2: have to overpay and they don't have a history of
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Speaker 2: doing it. So it's cool. It's great. It's a fun story.
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Speaker 2: A team go Reds, Mister Red Missus, Red Bronson Arroyo
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Speaker 2: out there on his boat playing the guitar, Todd Frasier
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Speaker 2: hitting one handed homers, Joey Vada wearing his uniform three
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Speaker 2: sizes too small. All that is great, But at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, they're not going to do it
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Speaker 2: because they haven't done this. Until they do it, I
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Speaker 2: gotta see it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a bummercrats because I know that they
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Speaker 1: can't think this way. But if the Reds have a
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Speaker 1: little playoff run in them next year, you're going to
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Speaker 1: make up that money and then some right. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think we can calculate whatever the number is, five, ten,
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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars per playoff game that you get right,
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Speaker 1: We don't have the official public numbers. I really think
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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber is the missing piece for a team like this.
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Speaker 1: They've got a nice core of young starters, they have
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Speaker 1: a developing core of young position players. More work to
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Speaker 1: do there, but their offense wasn't good enough. And it's
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Speaker 1: a great American ballpark too, even if I mean whether
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Speaker 1: you look at the regular offense or the league adjusted offense,
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Speaker 1: looks even worse for them, right like league adjusted park
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Speaker 1: adjusted I should say offense. Last year by most metrics,
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Speaker 1: they were bottom ten. This is a park where home
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Speaker 1: runs are hit. Their home run leader last year was
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Speaker 1: Ellie de la Cruz at twenty two home runs, including
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Speaker 1: just four in the second half of the season. There
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Speaker 1: were reports, of course, of an injury for Ellie. Also
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Speaker 1: he was getting fed more off speed pitches, blah blah,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Kyle Schwarper had fifty six home runs
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Speaker 1: last year for Philadelphia.
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Speaker 3: There's I mean a lot of teams. When you look
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Speaker 3: at signing a DH for five years, you say, like
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Speaker 3: when you look at the Phillies, okay, like, well, we're
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Speaker 3: gonna have Trey Turner, who's gonna need some DH time.
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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper is gonna need some DH time in those
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Speaker 3: five years. The Reds don't have that. The Reds are
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Speaker 3: not aging the way that other teams are. So that's
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Speaker 3: why this does fit. He's from Cincinnati, he's got more kids.
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Speaker 3: Now that'd be huge, he'd be able to make his
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Speaker 3: mark on yet another team. And everywhere this guy goes,
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Speaker 3: they make the playoffs. With the Cubs, they won the
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Speaker 3: World Series. He goes to the Phillies, they lose in
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Speaker 3: the World Series. They make the playoffs every year. Like
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Speaker 3: he is that kind of game changing person. But exactly
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Speaker 3: like AJ said, Sorry, Reds fans, it ain't gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: Such a bummer. It just it feels right. Wait, you're
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Speaker 1: mute at AJ, but it feels right. It feels right.
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Speaker 2: They could shoot your stupid mute button. Thank god. It stupid.
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Speaker 2: But they can't afford it. They can't afford it. But
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Speaker 2: my question is is listen, as much as we all
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Speaker 2: love Kyle Sharber and we love what he brings offense,
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Speaker 2: are they only one piece away? Because so who's their
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Speaker 2: first basement? Is it South Stewart? Is it Incarnacian Strand
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Speaker 2: you know, is Ellie going to take the next step?
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Speaker 2: Is Stevenson saying, hell, they're more than one piece away.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the way you're going to look at it,
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Speaker 2: and that's the way they're going to do it.
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't agree that they're one piece away.
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Speaker 3: I think I think they are one piece away. I
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Speaker 3: think Spencer Steer, I think Matt McClain, I think Ellie
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Speaker 3: d la Cruz. And I'm only going on watching them seeing, Okay,
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Speaker 3: this track record is Ellie always going to be a
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Speaker 3: like a ops plus of one oh six first career.
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Speaker 3: I have a hard time believing that that athletic that
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Speaker 3: fast on the basis switch hitter, he's never facing right,
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Speaker 3: all right, left on left, like, I think there are
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Speaker 3: too many pieces, and they are. They're just grossly underperforming offensively. Now,
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Speaker 3: this might be one of my conspiracy theories. The pitching
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Speaker 3: is ridiculous for this team. The starting pitching is ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: The bullpen was a little above average, and the offense
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Speaker 3: was brutal. So is Great American Small Park all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden becoming a pictures park. Did the human door
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Speaker 3: get turned up a little bit too much? I'm just saying,
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Speaker 3: just looking at it, like maybe it's not as great
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Speaker 3: of a hitting place as it used to be.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm gonna ask you this. Here's the
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Speaker 2: problem with the Reds. They strike out too much. Look
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Speaker 2: at their strikeout numbers. They strike out a ridiculous amount.
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Speaker 2: That's not gonna change just because you throw Kyle Swerburn there,
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Speaker 2: because guess what KYLEE. Schwerber does do He strikes out
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Speaker 2: a lot. You got to find some other ways to
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Speaker 2: generate offense and humidor no humidor if great Kyle Swerber
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Speaker 2: goes out and hits you forty five homers, if your
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Speaker 2: next guy has twenty and it's Elie, you gotta find
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Speaker 2: out a way to cut down on the strikeouts. That's
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Speaker 2: the biggest thing for the Reds offense. They strike out
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Speaker 2: way too much. Check the numbers.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe someone like Akamoto is more the answer, right,
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Speaker 1: more of a contact, higher floor kind of guy. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's certainly a huge difference in terms of clubhouse presence.
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Speaker 1: I feel like Kyle Schwarber is leading the league or
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Speaker 1: one of the top guys to be able to really
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Speaker 1: influence a young ball club. It's no knock on Alcamota.
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Speaker 1: I'm just bringing out I mean, he's coming from another
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Speaker 1: country and many other guys. It's like, sure they could
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Speaker 1: be a good fit. But it just felt like this
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Speaker 1: had had written up and it's not likely to actually happen.
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Speaker 1: But who knows, Maybe the Reds will just wake up
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Speaker 1: one day and decide screw it. That's up the payroll
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Speaker 1: for one year, and if we end up getting a
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Speaker 1: couple extra Playoff games out of it, it more than
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Speaker 1: covers it. Anyway, I don't think they're one piece away
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Speaker 1: from being a World Series winning team. I do think
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Speaker 1: they're a piece like shore Burr, away from being much
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Speaker 1: more of a sure fire Playoff contender. Right last year
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Speaker 1: they made it eighty three wins, they made it just barely.
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Speaker 1: I think they would be in a much better position here,
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Speaker 1: and I do think some of that young pitching is
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Speaker 1: going to take the next step for them in the rotation. Okay,
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Speaker 1: next thing on the list, and last one we'll cover
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Speaker 1: here today from Ken had to do with the Brewers.
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Speaker 1: They are the ultimate flip floppers right now. I mean,
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Speaker 1: because some of these comments have been public, it's not
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Speaker 1: like they're just coming from anonymous sources. Maybe Freddy Parolta
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Speaker 1: gets traded now, we're probably not going to trade him.
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Speaker 1: Oh Woodriff took the qualifying offer, Now, maybe we'll trade him.
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Speaker 1: Then again, you kind of see that they're not going
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Speaker 1: to trade him now. Ken Rosenthal has tilted the pendulum
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Speaker 1: back to we're listening. So aj. I do think some
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Speaker 1: of this has to do with teams calling and upping there.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say offers, but they're conversations because
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Speaker 1: they like to do this slow little teaser dance with
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Speaker 1: everyone when they call about trade talks. I think they're
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Speaker 1: doing that because they looked at Dylan see seven years
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Speaker 1: at present value close to two hundred million dollars and said, hmmm,
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Speaker 1: twenty nine year old seas kind of player or twenty
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Speaker 1: nine year old Freddy Parolta with better credentials right now,
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Speaker 1: right or at least comparable credentials for eight million bucks
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Speaker 1: next season. So if you're a contender, you're like, maybe
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Speaker 1: I could find one more prospect to make this happen Milwaukee,
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Speaker 1: Can I entice you into this? It's not a money
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Speaker 1: thing for Milwaukee. He's eight million bucks, like anything can
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Speaker 1: afford that? For Milwaukee, they're just like, he's probably gone
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Speaker 1: after this year. Do we have to maximize a return here?
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Speaker 1: Or can we afford to keep him, build on the
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Speaker 1: ninety seven win team from last year and then give
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Speaker 1: a qualifying offer and just get a first round pick
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Speaker 1: versus multiple high level prospects.
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Speaker 2: No, I agree, it's not a money thing. It's a
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Speaker 2: we can get it super extra special stuff for this
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Speaker 2: guy and hopefully that helps us. Now, they didn't usually
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Speaker 2: Milwaukee's ahead of this game. They did it with Devin Williams.
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Speaker 2: They've done it for years, the Corbyn Burns. But the
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Speaker 2: one guy they let walk was Willia Damas right, and
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Speaker 2: they had a hard time kind of filling his offense
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Speaker 2: even though they wont a bunch of games. Freddy Peralta
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Speaker 2: eight million dollars. Teams are like, yeah, we can get
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Speaker 2: one year of healthy, full menu Freddy. And he finished
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Speaker 2: probably I don't know where he finished the Young but
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Speaker 2: top five in the c I Young. He can go
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Speaker 2: pitch for us. Heck yeah, and we'll give you the
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Speaker 2: ABC and D. I like this for the Milwaukee I
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Speaker 2: hate it if you're a fan. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, if we can get a bunch of things
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Speaker 2: that can keep our our hot streak going and our
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Speaker 2: winning and our playoffs going to do it, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, calling online. Six is the Red Sox. How
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Speaker 3: do how do the Brewers? The Brewers have to match
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Speaker 3: up with a team that is going to give them
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Speaker 3: big league ready pieces. To me, I think it's two players.
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Speaker 3: I think it's Jaron Durant, and I think it's another
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Speaker 3: player that helps fill whatever void the Brewers have to
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Speaker 3: continue to win. Is it Marcella Meyer and somebody else?
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Speaker 3: Is it something that is young and able to fit
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Speaker 3: right into this team. I don't know, but Freddy Peralta,
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Speaker 3: I was trying to see what Corbyn Burns was making
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Speaker 3: his last year before you got traded to Baltimore, and
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Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns was making, was making more than eight million.
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Speaker 3: And Corbyn Burns brought in Joey Ortiz and d l Hall.
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Speaker 3: I know dal Hall was hurt, but you know, there's
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of there's a lot of extra spice
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Speaker 3: there when you're talking about two top of the line
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Speaker 3: or top of the line prospects that are already in
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Speaker 3: the big leagues, already have big league experienced. I think
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Speaker 3: that's what the Brewers we'll be looking for. And it's
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Speaker 3: going to be a huge haul because he's only getting
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Speaker 3: paid eight million dollars. And when you look at it now,
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the Red Sox go Crochet Gray
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Speaker 3: and Freddie p and then you're rounding it out with
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Speaker 3: Bayo and the young core of guys that came up
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Speaker 3: and filled in last year, all of a sudden, the
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Speaker 3: pendulum swings back in the Red Sox favor for the
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Speaker 3: American League East.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was getting sixteen mil Corbyn Burns in that
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Speaker 1: last year. Those deals have also worked out really well
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Speaker 1: for the teams, right, I mean not Burns after that
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Speaker 1: since he got hurt, but his one season with Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: I mean he was a number one starter for them,
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Speaker 1: pitching dominantly in a playoff game for them that they lost,
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Speaker 1: but not his fault. And then Crochet. I mean that's
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Speaker 1: one of the best trades in a while. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you picked up a one, then you were able to
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Speaker 1: lock them up long term. So Freddy p is going
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Speaker 1: to be a hot commodity. We'll talk a lot more
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Speaker 1: about him next week at the way our meetings, if
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Speaker 1: not before that time period too. Sing at Aja, sing
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Speaker 1: it for us, sing it loud.
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Speaker 2: That's what we went with. We went with bo That's
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Speaker 2: who we went. We went, but.
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Speaker 1: We'll bo go so for a little context, So go
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Speaker 1: by one get one free. That's right. We did this
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Speaker 1: last year with Juan Sota where will Wan go? And
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Speaker 1: it was so damn popular with the eighties music that
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Speaker 1: it is back, just like stranger Things. So let's start there.
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Speaker 1: Where do you think Bo will go? And can you
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Speaker 1: give us a little glimpse while you're talking about this
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Speaker 1: of what you've been writing about.
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Speaker 4: Boh yeah, I mean I think we did a post
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Speaker 4: at a mob shower last week. I'm just kind of
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Speaker 4: looking at we did this for all the top reagents,
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Speaker 4: but for Bowe in particular, like which games make the
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Speaker 4: most sense? And I think that kind of writing that
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Speaker 4: really crystallized that. To me, the Jays bringing him back
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Speaker 4: is like by far the best fit. It's a situation
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Speaker 4: where you know Bo obviously this is it's pretty common
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Speaker 4: for players he want a hitting for agency to say, yeah,
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Speaker 4: of course I'd like to come back. But Bo was
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Speaker 4: said that repeatedly, and he's talked a lot about his
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Speaker 4: friendship with FLA Junior, going back to their time in
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Speaker 4: the low minors. And you know, they couldn't have gotten
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Speaker 4: any closer to winning the World Series without actually doing it,
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Speaker 4: and they did this year. And so even if at
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Speaker 4: some point, like the front office kind of head just
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Speaker 4: was like, oh, we're gonna acquire Andre Semenez and he
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Speaker 4: can be our long term shortstop. You know, I think
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Speaker 4: it would be very difficult for them to get as
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Speaker 4: close as they did to winning a title and then
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Speaker 4: kind of back out because they don't want to meet
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Speaker 4: Bo's asking prist.
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Speaker 3: What are the what did the team getting? The Blue
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Speaker 3: Jays know what they're getting. They know that he had
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Speaker 3: a bounce back year this year. Maybe some things were
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Speaker 3: lingering last year offensively, But what as a team that
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Speaker 3: doesn't hasn't seen him day in and day out getting
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Speaker 3: if they signed Bobashett to obviously a nine figure contract
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Speaker 3: to play shortstop.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think you can have some questions
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Speaker 4: about how long he sticks a shortstop, especially if you're
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Speaker 4: gonna sign him to, you know, a seven or eight
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Speaker 4: year deal. You're probably projecting him to move to second
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Speaker 4: base at some point down the line, maybe within the
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Speaker 4: first couple of years. But it's rare to find middlelin
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Speaker 4: fielders who hit like this. This is the guy who
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Speaker 4: you know, he's won or led the American League hits
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Speaker 4: twice in his career. He would have done so again
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Speaker 4: this year had he not missed last three weeks this
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Speaker 4: season with a knee injury. You know, he was banged
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Speaker 4: up in twenty twenty four but every other season of
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Speaker 4: his career he's an OPS above eight hundred and so,
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Speaker 4: and we saw even you know, he came back during
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Speaker 4: the World Series after missing a month with the knees brain,
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Speaker 4: didn't have any game reups. Obviously there's no minor leagues
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Speaker 4: at that point, comes back in against the Dodgers and hits.
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Speaker 4: I think it was like three forty hit that you know,
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Speaker 4: monster home er off of Italian Game seven that had
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Speaker 4: the Jays alan to the lead, would have been like
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Speaker 4: one of the greatest moments in Toronto sports history. And so,
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Speaker 4: you know, I think that there are a few you know,
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Speaker 4: anfielders are really anyone around the league who you're more
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Speaker 4: confident in. It's just gonna make a lot of contact,
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Speaker 4: gonna you know, be a threat to hit three hundred
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Speaker 4: and potentially win a batting title at some point down
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Speaker 4: the line. And to get that, even if you have
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Speaker 4: to move to second base in a couple of years,
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Speaker 4: to get that from the middle infield position is pretty rare,
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Speaker 4: all right.
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Speaker 2: So then let's let's go through some of the teams
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Speaker 2: that you listed for teams you think are Red Sox, Giants, Tigers, Yankees,
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Speaker 2: And then you named a whole bunch of other teams, Angels, Brave, Dodgers, Rangers. Okay, Giants,
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Speaker 2: Will they spend the money? Right? Will they? Will Puster
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Speaker 2: or Posey be allowed to spend the money it's going
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Speaker 2: to take to get them Red Sox Again, same thing,
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Speaker 2: Will they spend the money? And plus they have to
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Speaker 2: bring back Bregman. They just go went Owt and got
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Speaker 2: Sonny Gray. Take the argument whether he's a number two
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Speaker 2: starter or not. The Tigers, well, they have Labor Torres
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Speaker 2: and they have what McGonagall is a mcgonak McGonagall the
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Speaker 2: shortstop prospect coming right, and then they have whoever plays
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Speaker 2: third base for him, So they all sound great. The
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Speaker 2: Yankees again, will they spend? But they got Cody Bellinger,
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Speaker 2: They have other options out there for what they're gonna do.
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Speaker 2: So it all seems like, yeah, they all's are ifs
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Speaker 2: and butts, But at the end of the day, it
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Speaker 2: seems like.
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Speaker 1: The Blue Jays are the best team.
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Speaker 2: So why have they not got this done? Because I
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Speaker 2: you know, we can look at all these things and say,
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Speaker 2: but they don't fit as well as he fits in Toronto.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I generally agree with
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Speaker 4: that that Toronto is the best hit I think. I mean,
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Speaker 4: the Giants definitely need a second baseman, Casey Schmidt, who's
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Speaker 4: probably their starting second basement of things this season open today.
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Speaker 4: He's okay, but certainly not a guy who's gonna stop
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Speaker 4: you from going after the sheet. Now, you're right that
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Speaker 4: they already have long term contracts for Devers and Chapman
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Speaker 4: and a Dominis. They want to spend that kind of
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Speaker 4: money at all, and if they do where they want
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Speaker 4: to put in another infielder. I don't know. I do
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Speaker 4: think Detroit would have made more sense had they not
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Speaker 4: made the qualifying off of the labor Torres. But you know,
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Speaker 4: I mean Habibias, He's had a great career. I know
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Speaker 4: he was had a strong first halt last year, got
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Speaker 4: back to the All Star Game. But if you kind
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Speaker 4: of line up every team, especially contenders among the shortstops,
17:08
Speaker 4: like Bias is at the lower end of that at
17:11
Speaker 4: this point of his career, and so you know, you
17:13
Speaker 4: could sign Bashett have n't played shortsop for a year.
17:15
Speaker 4: If McGonagall does reach the majors at some point in
17:17
Speaker 4: twenty six, maybe he breaks in at third base, and
17:20
Speaker 4: you know, at that point Tours is on a one
17:22
Speaker 4: year qualifying offer, and so if you want mcgonagall's your
17:25
Speaker 4: long term shortsop, okay, break them in at the third base,
17:27
Speaker 4: you move him over to shortstop in twenty twenty seven,
17:29
Speaker 4: and you let Torres walk after this year and kick
17:32
Speaker 4: the shut over. So I think that they could kind
17:33
Speaker 4: of move pieces around to make that work. And then Boston,
17:37
Speaker 4: I think I do expect him to spend on a
17:39
Speaker 4: hitter of some kind. Now you can make the argument
17:42
Speaker 4: that going after Schwarmer or Alonso or Monetaco, more Comy, somebody,
17:46
Speaker 4: you know, a pure power batch to play first base
17:48
Speaker 4: makes a little more sense for them, But right now
17:50
Speaker 4: they don't have a clear, everyday second basement. And I
17:53
Speaker 4: do think after the signing great trade like adding you know,
17:57
Speaker 4: some kind of impact hitter is the next step for them.
18:00
Speaker 3: All right. I want to go to your dark horse
18:02
Speaker 3: teams that you wrote about. There's four of them, Angels, Dodgers,
18:07
Speaker 3: Braves and Rangers. Are they dark horse teams because there's
18:12
Speaker 3: a fit but maybe not necessarily on the seven to
18:16
Speaker 3: eight year contract. Or are they dark horse teams because
18:20
Speaker 3: you don't know if they're actually going to spend on
18:23
Speaker 3: the second base position or or shortstop obviously.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a little bit of both. I think
18:29
Speaker 4: for the Angels, you could make the argument that they
18:33
Speaker 4: don't necessarily need in middleandfielder, like maybe a third basement
18:36
Speaker 4: if they were going to spend, like maybe they make
18:37
Speaker 4: more sense for Bregman obviously, they don't need shortstop. Zacneto's
18:40
Speaker 4: blocking the shortstop. They could use a second basement. But
18:44
Speaker 4: their top prospect for some more is a second baseman
18:47
Speaker 4: who debuted last year, and you know, he shruggled a
18:50
Speaker 4: little bit. But the Angels kind of rushed their prospects,
18:52
Speaker 4: and so that's to be expected. I don't think they
18:54
Speaker 4: want to take more out of the equation entirely. So
18:57
Speaker 4: you know, I think for them, you could argue that
18:59
Speaker 4: if they we're going to spend, it wouldn't make a
19:02
Speaker 4: ton of sense to go after a middle infielder. Maybe
19:04
Speaker 4: a different position would make more sense. The other teams,
19:09
Speaker 4: like the Dodgers, don't really have a lock in second basement,
19:11
Speaker 4: but they like to kind of kick things around. Kick
19:14
Speaker 4: guys are on, you know, muse Edmund there or if
19:16
Speaker 4: I Sang Kim could play there, and so I don't
19:18
Speaker 4: know that they want to make a long term commitment
19:20
Speaker 4: and then lock in bets and Baschet. But I think
19:23
Speaker 4: that not mentioning the Dodgers at all on any top
19:25
Speaker 4: free agent just you know, you never want to rule
19:28
Speaker 4: them out. Atlanta certainly needs a shortstop, but it's just
19:32
Speaker 4: a question of whether they'll play at the top of
19:34
Speaker 4: the market. And if they are going to sign a
19:36
Speaker 4: free agent shortsop, then I imagine that they would prefer
19:38
Speaker 4: to bring back hoss On Kim for less than half
19:40
Speaker 4: the price. And the Texas, you know, they would have
19:45
Speaker 4: been not a fit at all a couple of weeks ago. Obviously,
19:48
Speaker 4: they just traded Marcus Semiens, so they don't really have
19:49
Speaker 4: a second basement. And now part of the reason that
19:52
Speaker 4: they made the semi nimo trade is that they're probably
19:54
Speaker 4: scaling back payroll.
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Speaker 2: But if we had more like.
19:58
Speaker 4: Conviction that they were willing to spend, I think on
20:01
Speaker 4: paper they make a ton of sense. It's just a
20:03
Speaker 4: question of whether they want to give out a seven
20:04
Speaker 4: or eight your deal to anyone this off season.
20:09
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to open up the conversation now, past
20:13
Speaker 1: Bow and Anthony, you do a lot of writing for
20:15
Speaker 1: MLB trade rumors, about everything going on. This is like
20:18
Speaker 1: the prime time of the year for the website, along
20:22
Speaker 1: with the trade deadline of course in July. So I'll
20:26
Speaker 1: open it up to you in terms of what you've
20:28
Speaker 1: written in the past say month or so that you
20:32
Speaker 1: think actually could happen. Right, A lot of rumors get
20:35
Speaker 1: thrown out there. There's no shortage of rumors these days.
20:38
Speaker 1: There's probably more now than ever, as you can quickly
20:40
Speaker 1: try to become an insider on social media. There are
20:43
Speaker 1: a few that actually do the top job of breaking
20:46
Speaker 1: news and getting it right almost every time. But from
20:49
Speaker 1: a signing and trade perspective, what do you think really
20:53
Speaker 1: hits and could realistically happen.
20:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm curious to see where the rotation
20:59
Speaker 4: trademark it goes. I think that it was a pretty
21:03
Speaker 4: quiet deadline for starting pitching trades. We kind of expected
21:06
Speaker 4: a little bit more than we got in the asking price,
21:09
Speaker 4: I guess for teams that were selling pitching just was
21:12
Speaker 4: so high. Now, I don't I would be shocked if
21:15
Speaker 4: the Tiger's traded to card School. I don't think that
21:16
Speaker 4: makes much sense. But you know, the twins are kind
21:19
Speaker 4: of in a they are not necessarily calling it a rebuild,
21:22
Speaker 4: but they sold a lot of the deadline, and so
21:24
Speaker 4: you've got Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez, and if they're
21:27
Speaker 4: not going to reinvest and rebuild an entire bullpen and
21:30
Speaker 4: deep in the lineup, like, it doesn't make a whole
21:31
Speaker 4: lot of sense to just go into the season with
21:34
Speaker 4: the team they have now, which is clearly not going
21:35
Speaker 4: to be good enough, and so I could see them
21:37
Speaker 4: being more aggressive and selling later in the offseason. I
21:41
Speaker 4: think that the Nationals with Mackenzie Gore, it's the same
21:44
Speaker 4: kind of situation where he's got two years of team control.
21:46
Speaker 4: They haven't gotten out of the rebuild yet, and so
21:49
Speaker 4: you know, they've got a new front office, new manager.
21:52
Speaker 4: It probably takes a little bit of time for them
21:54
Speaker 4: to come in and get the lay of the land.
21:56
Speaker 4: But at some point later this offseason, I think that
21:57
Speaker 4: you could see Gore on the move as well. Maybe
22:00
Speaker 4: you get I don't know that I would take either
22:02
Speaker 4: Gore or Ryan over Garrett Crouschet where Krushet was last year,
22:06
Speaker 4: but a trade of that kind of magnitude later in
22:11
Speaker 4: the off season, maybe even at the winter meetings.
22:15
Speaker 3: Anthony, how long have you been writing for MLB trade rumors.
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Speaker 4: Uh, six years part time, I think full time for four.
22:24
Speaker 3: Okay, So when I played, I finished in twenty twenty,
22:27
Speaker 3: I had gotten traded eight different times, and MLB trade
22:32
Speaker 3: rumors not once told me I was going to get traded.
22:35
Speaker 3: And as a player, that is tough to hear. So
22:38
Speaker 3: you guys got to get your sources. Bet No, I
22:41
Speaker 3: just want people to know that it's you guys do
22:43
Speaker 3: an incredible job. And honestly, I know a lot of
22:46
Speaker 3: players that read it, watch it and not saying it
22:51
Speaker 3: took over for Baseball America, but Baseball America's had had
22:54
Speaker 3: the They had the books in our clubhouse and dudes
22:58
Speaker 3: would always be pulling up MLB trade rumors. So you
23:02
Speaker 3: guys do a great job.
23:04
Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I appreciate It's always it's always kind
23:07
Speaker 4: of ratifying to you know, you get players or fun
23:09
Speaker 4: office people are like, oh yeah, we actually read the
23:11
Speaker 4: stuff that you guys put up.
23:14
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no doubt. We are all hooked and we
23:17
Speaker 1: will continue to be the rest of the off season. Anthony,
23:20
Speaker 1: great to have you, odd Man, really appreciate it, and
23:22
Speaker 1: welcome to have Tea as a guest here for the
23:24
Speaker 1: first time. I hope you enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
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Speaker 4: Anytime that I really appreciate it,