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- 0:01So what is the worst thing that you can say to a survivor of
- 0:06narcissistic or toxic abuse? What's the worst thing that you
- 0:09can the the worst words that can leave your lips, that can hurt
- 0:13or destroy or set back or trigger a survivor of toxic
- 0:16narcissistic abuse or survivor of a narcissistic relationship.
- 0:20That's what we're talking about today, y'all.
- 0:21Of course, if you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:23I'm a diagnosed narcissist myself.
- 0:24Here to give you the POV inside the mind of a narcissist and
- 0:28let's hop right into it. Y'all like seriously?
- 0:31So there is like survivors of domestic violence or
- 0:35narcissistic abuse, any type of relationship, any type of toxic
- 0:37relationship have a lot to go through.
- 0:39They have a lot to deal with. They have a lot to process,
- 0:43right? So one of the last things that
- 0:46they need is people in their lives that don't understand what
- 0:50they're going through and that say some of the worst word, they
- 0:52utter some of the worst words imaginable, right?
- 0:57So in this video, I'm going to go over a list of words that you
- 1:00could set your person back, could set help set you back or
- 1:03whatever. Could it hurt your feelings?
- 1:04And this is like these words or these phrases right here are not
- 1:08in any particular order, y'all. It's just in the in the order I
- 1:11wrote them in. There's no order of severity
- 1:13because everybody's relationship is going to be different.
- 1:15Everybody's healing process is going to be different.
- 1:18So the first thing I got written down here is just leave.
- 1:24You should just leave. That's what people tell you,
- 1:26right? When you're a survivor of a
- 1:28toxic narcissistic relationship or whatever the case may be,
- 1:30right? Telling somebody telling you to
- 1:32just leave is could be extremely detrimental to your life, right?
- 1:36Extremely detrimental to your healing.
- 1:38And just leaving could also put you in danger if you have the
- 1:41wrong type of person that you're dealing with, right?
- 1:43You have a dangerous narcissistic person that you're
- 1:45dealing with. Somebody telling you to just
- 1:47leave doesn't help you all help you at all.
- 1:50You know what I mean? Somebody tell it like just leave
- 1:51like it's easy. People who tell you to just
- 1:54leave or don't understand what you've been through or don't
- 1:57care, they're just trying to give you the simplest.
- 1:59They're trying to give you the simplest exit.
- 2:00They're trying to find the exit route, the simplest exit route
- 2:03for you. Not trying to put any, any type
- 2:05of work to help you, anything like that.
- 2:07Just the simplest exit route. Just leave.
- 2:10Why don't you just leave? Get out, Just leave the
- 2:12relationship. Don't that, don't that, don't
- 2:13that sound like the narcissist, right?
- 2:16Don't the narcissist say that too sometimes?
- 2:18Don't the abusive person in your life, don't they say that
- 2:20sometimes as well? You should just leave.
- 2:23If you're not happy here, why don't you just leave, right?
- 2:26Why don't you just get out? You should just get out.
- 2:29You should just leave. That's how that's that's how
- 2:31they work. They'll just tell you to just
- 2:32leave. It's they think it's just as
- 2:34simple as that. You're not happy.
- 2:36Leave. That's the simplest way.
- 2:37That's the simplest way I could put it.
- 2:39If you're not happy in this relationship, get out.
- 2:42Get out. I know a lot of people have
- 2:45experienced that as well. When somebody tell you if you're
- 2:47not happy, just get out of the relationship.
- 2:50So that doesn't help anybody. Survivors thrive with disorder.
- 2:52Telling them somebody telling you to just leave doesn't help,
- 2:55right? All right, Next thing I have
- 2:57written now right here is get over it.
- 3:01Just get over it. Get over it.
- 3:04Like sound like Scorpio from Mortal Kombat on it.
- 3:05Get over it, right? But that helps nobody out either
- 3:10somebody telling you to just to get over what you've been
- 3:13through, like it's that easy to release the damage or or the
- 3:17trauma of emotional abuse or toxic abuse or narcissistic
- 3:20abuse or physical abuse. Just get over it.
- 3:24It's all it's in the past, right?
- 3:25Who does that sound like? Sometimes these phrases right
- 3:29here could trigger you because they sound like you're
- 3:31narcissistic ex right, they sound like your narcissistic
- 3:34partner. They sound just like I'm like
- 3:35damn like just get over it. Just leave like are you are you
- 3:40my daddy? You know what I'm saying It just
- 3:41it sounds like them, so it could be extremely.
- 3:43It could be particularly triggering to you to hear this
- 3:48type of stuff now, couldn't it yes.
- 3:51Somebody telling you to just leave or just get over it does
- 3:53not help you all in the slightest so that right there
- 3:55doesn't help get over it. The next thing that I have
- 3:59written down right here y'all is you.
- 4:02Hell no, get over it. You should forgive them.
- 4:05You should forgive Damn. Well, Lee, forgiveness is in the
- 4:12Bible. Yeah, a lot of things are in the
- 4:14Bible, right? But that doesn't mean it applies
- 4:16to your relationship necessarily.
- 4:18Because somebody telling you you should forgive them invalid not
- 4:20only invalidates what you've been through, it just trying to
- 4:23it just blows it trying to blow it away.
- 4:26You should forgive them. There's a lot of times you hear
- 4:29this in relationships where you have a narcissistic parent,
- 4:31right? You should forgive your mom.
- 4:33You should forgive your dad. You only get one dad.
- 4:35You only get one mom. Yeah.
- 4:36And the one I got is abusive. OK, What the hell?
- 4:39The one I got is neglectful. The one I got is a psychopath.
- 4:42What the hell are you talking about?
- 4:44I should just forgive them? No, I don't think, I don't think
- 4:48forgiveness is necessary. But if you feel, if you feel the
- 4:51need to forgive, don't reconcile.
- 4:53Forgiveness and reconciliation often get mixed up.
- 4:56They are not the same thing. Just because you forgive someone
- 4:59doesn't mean you have to allow them back into your life.
- 5:01Sometimes forgiveness can be the gateway to helping you heal,
- 5:04right? Forgiveness can be the gateway
- 5:05to helping you release yourself and helping you just move
- 5:08forward, right? But for reconciliation, I
- 5:11forgive my mom for doing this, but I'm not reconciling where
- 5:14I'm not breaking no contact. Do you see what I'm saying?
- 5:16There's there's a whole different thing right there.
- 5:17So somebody telling you that you should forgive them does not
- 5:20help you out in the slightest, does not help you out at all.
- 5:23How does they help you get? How does they help you at all?
- 5:25Somebody telling you you you should just review a dude.
- 5:28No, that's somebody who's not like that's somebody that is not
- 5:33well like in they're trying to help you out the most right?
- 5:36That might be trying to help you out, but that person might just
- 5:39be tired of hearing you talk about the old relationship,
- 5:41tired of hearing you talk about your ex or your, you know,
- 5:45whatever the case may be. That happens.
- 5:47That really does happen to a lot of people.
- 5:48So moving on. The next thing I got written
- 5:52down here and this might set some people off right here.
- 5:54Just take it, take it with a grain of salt.
- 5:57Just find someone else. You should just find somebody
- 6:05else. You know the quickest way, the
- 6:07best way to get over someone is to get under someone else, get
- 6:11behind someone else, hop on top of someone else.
- 6:14No, yo, you know how many people I stood up my one on ones over
- 6:18Zoom, right? Do you know how many people I've
- 6:20spoken to that have said like Lee, I tried to, I tried to move
- 6:23on quickly and I found a worse person.
- 6:26Like my narcissist, my previous narcissistic toxic ex was just
- 6:29emotionally abusive, right? I'm not saying just this is what
- 6:33they said. This is what they said.
- 6:34They were just emotionally abusive.
- 6:36Now my new my new acts, they're physically mostly abusive.
- 6:40They threaten to underlie me, they try to kick, they're trying
- 6:42to get me locked up. They're doing everything.
- 6:45No, y'all, take your time. This doesn't help you right
- 6:50here. Somebody telling you just that
- 6:52doesn't help you at all. Just move on.
- 6:55Just heal. Just this, just that it helps no
- 6:57one at all, right? Am I right?
- 7:01Yeah. This is what happens.
- 7:03This is what goes on. So this is the, the space that
- 7:06so many people fall into. Most narcissistic people are
- 7:09hoping that you're, they like to catch vulnerable people.
- 7:12So when you're trying to move on for your previous relationship,
- 7:14a lot of times you're going to be in a state of vulnerability.
- 7:17And when you're vulnerable, guess what happens?
- 7:19That narcissistic ex, that narcissistic partner swoops in
- 7:22and tries to ruin your damn life.
- 7:24That's what I'm saying. Somebody else, somebody new, the
- 7:26new narcissist gets you while you're vulnerable from the old
- 7:29narcissist. And then it's harder to leave
- 7:31the new narcissist because you're Trump on to the ex and
- 7:33you're Trump on to the new person.
- 7:34Slow down, somebody telling you to go sleep with somebody else
- 7:37or just move on fast. That's not good advice.
- 7:40All of these things right here, everything that I say right
- 7:43here, I'm I'm gonna say this today.
- 7:44Never mind, I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna come back to I'm gonna
- 7:46come back to well intended bad advice because a lot of people
- 7:49give it and a lot of people out there receiving it.
- 7:52There's two more I have written down.
- 7:53If I miss anything, if y'all can think of some something that
- 7:57somebody said to you that didn't help you and at all make sure
- 8:00you just drop it in the comment section.
- 8:01I'm Oh yeah, we open the groan. We open the growth.
- 8:04We're open the groan. The next thing right here.
- 8:07It can't be that bad. You stayed 20 years.
- 8:12You had four kids with them. You, you, you renewed your vows
- 8:16last year. It can't be that bad because you
- 8:19didn't leave, right? They'll tell you this stuff.
- 8:25They'll tell you that your relationship or that the abuse
- 8:28that you've experienced can't be that bad.
- 8:32They'll tell you that straight up.
- 8:33They'll tell you it can't be that bad because you stayed
- 8:37through it. Not that you survived it, that
- 8:39you stayed through it. So they'll try to look, they try
- 8:41to use your presence in the relationship to invalidate what
- 8:45you've been through. Well, you stayed through it, so
- 8:46it couldn't have been that bad. Well, you you having another kid
- 8:49with them, so it couldn't be that bad.
- 8:50Why would you have another kid with somebody who's abusing you?
- 8:54Why would you get her pregnant again if you said she was a
- 8:57horrible mom the first time and so it couldn't have been that
- 8:59bad? You might be over exaggerated,
- 9:02you might be making things up, you might be in the wrong here.
- 9:04You see what I'm saying? Tell somebody it can't be that
- 9:07bad. Can be one of the worst things
- 9:08that can happen. Seriously.
- 9:11And last but not least, whoo whoo, drum roll please.
- 9:22What did you do? I know a lot of y'all there have
- 9:28heard that. What did you do?
- 9:31It you know both of you, both you both did think both of y'all
- 9:34were in the wrong. What did you do to make this
- 9:38person abuse you? What did you do to make this
- 9:41person put their hands on you? What did you do?
- 9:43What role did you play? It couldn't have all.
- 9:45It couldn't all have been them, right?
- 9:48It couldn't be all on them. What did you do?
- 9:50I refuse to believe that anybody would be treating you this way
- 9:53if you didn't play a role in it. So what did you do?
- 9:58There are so many people out there that are experiencing this
- 10:01right here, this phenomenon about what they did or getting
- 10:04accused of doing something that they that they didn't do.
- 10:07What did you do is one of the statements that can keep
- 10:10somebody bound in a toxic relationship for, for, for for a
- 10:14long time, for longer than what they should be, right?
- 10:17Because if somebody tells you, what did you do, you start
- 10:20thinking you're like, well, well, I'm not perfect.
- 10:22I used to, you'll start saying things like this.
- 10:24Well, I'm not perfect either. I, I made mistakes too.
- 10:28I did this, I did that. You'll start trying to find ways
- 10:31to blame yourself in order to justify you.
- 10:34See what I'm saying? That's why all of this, all of
- 10:36these things that you've heard today can make you start to
- 10:38question your role in the relationship.
- 10:41This is why none of these things, somebody tell me this
- 10:43stuff doesn't help you out, doesn't help you at all in your
- 10:46healing journey. It could help you separate
- 10:48yourself from the person who said it, right?
- 10:50Could help you get away from that person for a little while
- 10:52or to minimize their role in your life because they're not
- 10:54helping you. They're actually, you know,
- 10:56they're actually exasperating what you went through.
- 10:59What not right? So it's just like whatever
- 11:01happens in this situation, it's like, what did you do helps no
- 11:04one. Like none of this stuff helps
- 11:06anybody. All this stuff can help get help
- 11:09keep you stuck, stuck in the mud of a toxic narcissistic
- 11:12relationship stuck, muddling through and trying to wonder how
- 11:15you got here or try to wonder what comes next.
- 11:18Stuck here, not moving forward, not healing, not doing any of
- 11:21this type of stuff right here. Stuck.
- 11:24So you want to be around people to help you get unstuck because
- 11:27all of the all of this stuff that I went through today can
- 11:29also be phrased under the category well, well intended bad
- 11:32advice. So not all of them.
- 11:33Some of them can't write well intended bad advice is the term
- 11:36I heard in the book Out out of the Fog by Dana Mone star.
- 11:40She talks about how some people in your life are trying to give
- 11:43you advice to help you heal and is well intended, but it's just
- 11:46bad advice. You should just forgive them is
- 11:49well intended, but it's bad advice, right?
- 11:51Go find somebody else, find somebody better to there's a
- 11:53there's 1000. There's plenty of fishing to
- 11:55see. It's well intended, but it it's
- 11:58absolutely could be bad advice in in that space that you're in
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