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SPECIAL EDITION: Stewart Pearce was Princess Diana's confidential voice coach and friend and now he's sharing with Rob Shuter private details about her extraordinary life · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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  Speaker 1: Inscrible advice. Hello, Hello, Hello, We're welcome to the Naughty
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  Speaker 1: VA Night Show. I'm your host Rob Show. So normally
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  Speaker 1: we don't do these special edition bonus shows because there's
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  Speaker 1: not normally that many special people that I think we
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  Speaker 1: want to do one with. But today's the exception. We
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  Speaker 1: have a fantastic vocal coach, Stuart Piers, who has been
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  Speaker 1: a vocal coach to many, many big celebrities. However, it
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  Speaker 1: is his new book, Diana the Voice of Change, which
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  Speaker 1: I can't put down, that we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about today, not only Princess Diana's vocal coach, but also
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  Speaker 1: her friend. Hey Steward, welcome to the show. Oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: so wonderful to be here. Thank you. It's great one
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  Speaker 1: of you inviting me online. So please, we are thrilled
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  Speaker 1: have you. Let's jumping because we've got so many questions.
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  Speaker 1: I've also got some questions from the listeners of the
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  Speaker 1: show to nothing to worry about. We're nausy, but we're
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  Speaker 1: nice on this show, so it will be fun, fun, fun.
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  Speaker 1: Hay Steward, how did you meet Princess Diana. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: right back to the beginning. How did this start? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I was actually recommended to meet her, probably around when
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  Speaker 1: she was caught by the controversy of trying to find
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  Speaker 1: a way of leveraging herself away from the acrimonious relationship
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  Speaker 1: that she was beginning to develop with Prince Charles Um
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  Speaker 1: and you know, to be honest or there was a
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  Speaker 1: great honor to be asked. I turned it down, saying
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that I could be available for it
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  Speaker 1: because of the drama that was going on, but that
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  Speaker 1: possibly there would be at a later state. So it
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  Speaker 1: was a very prophetic that I did that, because then
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  Speaker 1: in when the Martin Baser interview came out that Diana
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  Speaker 1: came back via a friend of ours, a mutual friend,
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  Speaker 1: a patroness of mine in fact, who was a very
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  Speaker 1: celebrated restaurateur at a restaurant which is no longer called
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  Speaker 1: San Lorenzo in Knight Spirit, and Diana was a frequent visitor.
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  Speaker 1: But the lady who owned it, Mara Bernie was was
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  Speaker 1: an extraordinary mother figure too many people, and so for example,
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  Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones would call her in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the night after a concert and say, Mara, could you
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  Speaker 1: make a spaghetti? And she would be up at three
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  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning making boys spaghetti. It gives an
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  Speaker 1: illustration of the extraordinary love that this woman had. And
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  Speaker 1: so Mara had introduced me to a number of leading
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  Speaker 1: people and said to me, would you would you please
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  Speaker 1: come and have lunch to meet somebody? And I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: who is it? So she said, well, just come and
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  Speaker 1: then you'll interested. And I said, no, tell me who
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  Speaker 1: is it? She said, do trust me? So I said,
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  Speaker 1: of course I trust you, but who is it? Just
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  Speaker 1: come and meet them? And so I arrived with just
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  Speaker 1: a feeling of anticipation, not trepidation, because I absolutely trusted her.
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  Speaker 1: And as I walked into the restaurant, there was the
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  Speaker 1: head waiter and I said to the head waiter, you
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  Speaker 1: know Peppe, where is Madame? Oh, she's downstairs? I said,
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  Speaker 1: who with? And he said you'll see when you get there.
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  Speaker 1: So it was this great build up that when I
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  Speaker 1: got to this private room in the basement of a restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: I knocked on the door and opened the door and
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  Speaker 1: there was Diana who sprang up, grabbed my arm and
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  Speaker 1: said you will work with me, won't you? So I said,
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  Speaker 1: have been set up? And it was the most extraordinary
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  Speaker 1: moment and of course, of course, of course, things were
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  Speaker 1: very different at that point from the earlier in earlier
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  Speaker 1: encounter that I was describing. But I said to Diana immediately, look,
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  Speaker 1: if we worked together, we must have a completely confidential relationship,
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  Speaker 1: because you're surrounded by a circus of activities and I
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  Speaker 1: don't want the perhaps to get the idea that you're singeing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she'd already finished working with Peter Zettelyn, who
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  Speaker 1: was another actor monkee voice coach that she had worked with,
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  Speaker 1: who I believe had been quite useful, but she wanted
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  Speaker 1: something a little bit more mature, a little bit more sophisticated,
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  Speaker 1: you know, She's she'd moved on. That's no disrespect to Peter,
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  Speaker 1: of course, who then latterly went and allowed all of
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  Speaker 1: his tapes to be used by YouTube for some reason anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So that's how it began. We had a confidential relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever she needed me, she called me on her cell phone,
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  Speaker 1: because in nine we were all beginning to play with
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  Speaker 1: cell phones. They were quite large, weren't they. Um, And
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  Speaker 1: I never went to Kensington Palace. She always came to
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  Speaker 1: my studio in Chelsea, so it was completely confidential. She
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  Speaker 1: would call me whenever she needed to. Sometimes she would
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  Speaker 1: come for two sessions a week. Um, and she always,
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  Speaker 1: you know, always dispatched my fee in cash. It was
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  Speaker 1: never through the administration. You know, it was all completely confidential. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: so stupid. Let me ask. People might not understand this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I do either. Why would somebody like
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  Speaker 1: Princess Diana need a vocal coach? Well, I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: saw the Martin Bichery interview and felt that she was
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  Speaker 1: very proud of herself in terms of the liberation of
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  Speaker 1: the conviction of her statement. But she didn't like the
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  Speaker 1: way that she sounded, and she didn't like the way
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  Speaker 1: that she looked, you know, because again she was being
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  Speaker 1: submissive and the voice was very breathy. You know, it
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  Speaker 1: was all sort of slightly Well, there are three people
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  Speaker 1: in this marriage rather like this as opposed to having weight, gravitas,
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  Speaker 1: a feeling of her own sovereignty. And of course that's
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  Speaker 1: what that was the particular spell. Ask if you like
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  Speaker 1: that I shared with her and worked with her aunt.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there were references because I had worked with
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  Speaker 1: a number of other Senior States people before Diana, and
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  Speaker 1: one of them was Margaret Thatcher. Who of course moved
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  Speaker 1: from this pseudo upper middle class sound that she had
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  Speaker 1: acquired at Oxford. But it was all terribly sort of
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  Speaker 1: like this, you know. And and Bernard Ingram, who was
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  Speaker 1: the communications director the Conservative Party, said, I think that
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  Speaker 1: Margaret needs to find weight. So there was always already
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  Speaker 1: an example there. You know that Margaret and I worked
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  Speaker 1: together in the Commons very early in the morning, you know,
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  Speaker 1: after a session had finished, and I had her bowling
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  Speaker 1: her voice across the chamber of the comments, so that
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  Speaker 1: she became really into that notion of oh no, Mr Kinnoch,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and everybody said, oh wow, that the iron
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  Speaker 1: lady steps forth. Did it take a long time for
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  Speaker 1: you to develop trust a relationship with Princess Diana? Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: that was immediate. She was such a darling. It was immediate.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think that was? Because she had been
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  Speaker 1: betrayed by so many people, including arguably her husband. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking it was to do with Mara. You see
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  Speaker 1: that she completely implicitly trusted Mara Bernie. Mara Bernie was
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  Speaker 1: a surrogant mother to Diana unofficially speaking, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: Diana was just so yielding and surrendering. This was part
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  Speaker 1: of the difficulty, and one of the things that I
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  Speaker 1: needed to do was to suggest to her psychological boundaries
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  Speaker 1: energetic boundaries, because she was just completely open, spilling out everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: trying to find a way of using her love as
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  Speaker 1: a depth charge to bring people in whom she could
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  Speaker 1: connect with on an empathect level. Wow, now you tell
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  Speaker 1: a story that made me giggle about going to the
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  Speaker 1: movies with Princess Diana. Please share it. Well, Diana loved
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  Speaker 1: to be daring, love to be ordinary, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: she was very aware of the extraordinary nature nature of
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  Speaker 1: her status. But at the same time, she loved to
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  Speaker 1: be kitchen sinc You know, she loved to be extremely
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  Speaker 1: ordinary and was a very physically oriented woman, meaning that
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  Speaker 1: she was very in tune with her body. So she
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  Speaker 1: swam every day, she worked out every day. You know,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't living in an ivory tower of cerebralization. She
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  Speaker 1: was very alive within the quicker nature of her body.
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  Speaker 1: And so she was always trying to find escape routes
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  Speaker 1: away from the formality. Because after all, what she did
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  Speaker 1: was to really introduce us to another way of being
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  Speaker 1: away from the formal, the patriarchal formal and so one
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  Speaker 1: day she said, let's go to the movies and I said,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean, go to the movies? And said, now,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to the movies. And I said, what are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about? And she said, well, what are do
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  Speaker 1: is I'll wear a disguise. So I said what, But
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  Speaker 1: everybody will know who you are and what happens if
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  Speaker 1: we don't have personal protection officers. I mean, what what
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  Speaker 1: do we do? And she said we won't We won't
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  Speaker 1: be discovered. My disguise will be so effective. So I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm up for it. It sounds like fun. And so
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  Speaker 1: she said, we'll meet me at the end of Palace Row.
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  Speaker 1: We always called it Palace Row, at the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the gates of Kensington Palace on High High Street, Kensington,
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  Speaker 1: which you know is not necessarily familiar to people in
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  Speaker 1: the Uniting in the United States, but in people in
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  Speaker 1: London know it very well. And so I arrived and
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  Speaker 1: I stood waiting, thinking where is she? And what's interesting
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  Speaker 1: is there's another road next to the entrance to Kensington Palace,
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  Speaker 1: which is known as Embassy Row, where some of the
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  Speaker 1: principal embassies are, particularly the Russian embassy, and there was
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  Speaker 1: a girl standing there wearing a trench coat on a
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  Speaker 1: long blonde wig and sunglasses, and I thought she was Russian.
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  Speaker 1: And then I walked. I was walking up and down,
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  Speaker 1: thinking where's Diana. She's laid and suddenly the sunglasses lifted
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  Speaker 1: and there was Diana's eyes and she giggled. And then
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  Speaker 1: we ran giggling down High Street, Kensington to the movie theater,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to the odeon Kensington seek Jerry Maguire. Of
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  Speaker 1: course I bought the tickets, I bought popcorn, and we
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  Speaker 1: went to see the movie. I seem to remember. We
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  Speaker 1: had an absolutely wonderful time. And then afterwards she said,
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  Speaker 1: let's go and have pizza. So we went to a
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  Speaker 1: small cafe in the northern part of that just north
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  Speaker 1: of Kensington Palace, that was known as the Diana Cafe.
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  Speaker 1: It was just great fun I mean, she was she was,
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  Speaker 1: but she was immensely immediate and funny and grounded and
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  Speaker 1: ordinary and intelligent and pret prescient and empathic. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she was one of the most glorious people that I've
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  Speaker 1: ever met, and so she was happy to be around
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  Speaker 1: London without her security. Yards well, you remember, by that
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  Speaker 1: time when hr H had been removed, the privilege of
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  Speaker 1: having p pos had also been removed. She was really
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  Speaker 1: happy about that because it meant that she could get
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  Speaker 1: into her car. She was a superb driver. She would
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  Speaker 1: get into a car and drive, not in exceeding the
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  Speaker 1: speed limit, but she would drive really really fast. So
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  Speaker 1: if perhaps were chasing her, she was really good at
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  Speaker 1: being able to release herself from that chase because she
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  Speaker 1: knew London so well. She knew all the backstreets in
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  Speaker 1: the areas of Chelsea and Fulham where she would would
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  Speaker 1: frequent Jim's and me and other people that she visited.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think she would have made an excellent Uber driver.
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  Speaker 1: She would have been a stunning Uber drive. She was
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  Speaker 1: an amazing driver, I mean really really competent. It was
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  Speaker 1: almost as though, you know, her wheels were her second,
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  Speaker 1: her second kingdom. Did she have a celebrity crush? Did
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  Speaker 1: she talk about guys? Did Diana have a celebrity crash? Well,
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  Speaker 1: she loved George Michael, she loved Elton John. They were
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  Speaker 1: the principal people that she liked. But they were friends
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  Speaker 1: like they were in her life as friends, some of
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  Speaker 1: them a day men. Was there ever, that that guy
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  Speaker 1: that George Clooney. That just made her swoon like everybody else, well,
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  Speaker 1: there were a number of George Clooney's, Yes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean Diana was very quickened. I mean she was
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  Speaker 1: very vital, immensely alive. And so, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that we both shared as as a common
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  Speaker 1: likeness is that, you know, we felt that if we
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  Speaker 1: didn't fall in love once a week with someone, that
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  Speaker 1: we weren't fully alive. That doesn't mean to say that
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  Speaker 1: it was, you know, an intense reciprocation. It was just
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  Speaker 1: looking at somebody and thinking, oh, my goodness, you're so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how amazing you are? That was something
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  Speaker 1: that Diana was always doing as well. Is it true
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  Speaker 1: that she liked to do your washing up? M She
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  Speaker 1: always wanted to become grounded or earth. So she would
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  Speaker 1: arrive and say, Darling, can I iron your shirts? And
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  Speaker 1: I would say no, but I've got some crockery for
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  Speaker 1: you to wash up. And so we would always go
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  Speaker 1: into the kitchen and she would do the washing up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I would move cups and saucers and things
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  Speaker 1: like that, not heavy duty dinner plates from the night before.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, she was really into cleaning. She loved cleaning.
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  Speaker 1: She was a very when she had the apartment in
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  Speaker 1: Earls Court. You know that she was always cleaning it.
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  Speaker 1: She loved it. This I look, I can imagine an
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  Speaker 1: hour with a vacuum cleaner and a duster and singing
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  Speaker 1: George Michael as she does absolutely in yellow gloves, rubber gloves.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about the book. I'm reading it now,
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  Speaker 1: and it really is. It's a it's a revelation. You
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  Speaker 1: tell me stuff about somebody that I thought we all
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  Speaker 1: we all think we know very very well. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think the most surprising thing that people are going
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  Speaker 1: to find out about the princess in your book? The
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  Speaker 1: Voice of Change? M hmm, how interesting. Nobody's asked me
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  Speaker 1: that question, and I think I've probably done at least
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  Speaker 1: five Dred interviews since the publication. I profess that the
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  Speaker 1: book answers the unanswerable and questions the unquestionable. So of
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  Speaker 1: course there is the big curiosity or mystery or enigma
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  Speaker 1: of what was her death all about? And so I
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  Speaker 1: enter into an understanding. It's only a perception of what
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  Speaker 1: the death, what her death was all about, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to further in my next book because I just
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  Speaker 1: happened to have met the Roman Catholic priest that was
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  Speaker 1: called to her body on the last night and spent
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  Speaker 1: six hours in vigil with her body, and he's given
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  Speaker 1: me an interview. He's the first time he's given an interview.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to use the interview, so to speak,
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  Speaker 1: in the my next book. The point was that where
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  Speaker 1: she chose to pass, so to speak, obviously she was
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  Speaker 1: being chased by the Perhaps wasn't a nefarious murder, a
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  Speaker 1: ritual killing that we can't answer, but we can hype
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  Speaker 1: produce conjecture hyper conjecture indeed, But the place where she
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  Speaker 1: chose to die was really very interesting because the pond
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  Speaker 1: Almar tunnel in Roman times was the temple of Diana. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: So you know how you leave that as a spicy
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  Speaker 1: detail for all listeners to want to buy the book absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: And then why did you tell this story? Now? You've
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  Speaker 1: if you've felt the pushback, you've read the pushback. Some
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  Speaker 1: people say, leave her alone, her resting peace. Why did
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  Speaker 1: you do this book? Now? It started with me remembering
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  Speaker 1: something that she said to me when we said goodbye
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  Speaker 1: at our last meeting before she went on holiday, when
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  Speaker 1: she just on poisson. She was very impetuous. She just
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  Speaker 1: simply said, wouldn't it be wonderful we wrote a book
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  Speaker 1: about this, we're all that we've been through, but let's
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  Speaker 1: not do that until the children married. So it was
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  Speaker 1: very en passon, and of course I noted it. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time I was dealing with a thud
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  Speaker 1: inside my body that happened when she hugged me and
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  Speaker 1: said goodbye, Because it was wonderful that she was going
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  Speaker 1: on holiday, and she was going on holiday with Dodie,
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  Speaker 1: who was an adorable man and would look after her
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  Speaker 1: extraordinarily well, and they were going to the south of France,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it was going to be all of
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  Speaker 1: that wonderful luxury that she so loved, that heightened state
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  Speaker 1: of existence, you know. But at the same time, the
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  Speaker 1: thud was more to do with the fact that I
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  Speaker 1: had a presentiment about the fact this was the last
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  Speaker 1: time I was going to see her, and so I
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  Speaker 1: sat on memory. And then four or five years ago,
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  Speaker 1: when a number of my Hollywood actresses were involved in
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  Speaker 1: disclosure of the way that they were maltreated by people
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  Speaker 1: like Harvey Weinstein. I mean, I speak his name because
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  Speaker 1: it's now a public it's public disclosure. But there were
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  Speaker 1: other people, you know, that were that I heard about,
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  Speaker 1: and they were outraged by what happened, but at the
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  Speaker 1: same time they were terrified that they would be marred
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  Speaker 1: in their careers if they stepped forward and spoke. And
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  Speaker 1: so there were what should we do? And I said,
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  Speaker 1: but you're the voice of change, okay, And I said,
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  Speaker 1: for example, Diana, And suddenly all of the information that
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  Speaker 1: I remembered about aiding and abetting, so to speak, Diana
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  Speaker 1: to find her voice, not just simply to find it
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  Speaker 1: from a physical point of view in the way that
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  Speaker 1: we've already spoken of, but also to find out how
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  Speaker 1: can she dispatch the unique intelligence of the way that
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to liberate herself from what she considered to
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  Speaker 1: be an archaic hegemony, not in any denial or dispute
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  Speaker 1: over the the extraordinary nature of tradition, of heritage and
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  Speaker 1: of history, which of course she had immense respect and
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  Speaker 1: admiration for. I mean, she adored the Queen Mama. She
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  Speaker 1: thought the Queen was absolutely extraordinary. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: the levels of austerity where people weren't touched, you know
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  Speaker 1: that it had to be glove against glove and not
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  Speaker 1: skin against skin in shaking hands. That Diana experienced great
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  Speaker 1: criticism from the establishment, and so I helped her find
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  Speaker 1: her voice. So I was really using that template and
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  Speaker 1: allowing it to inspire the voices of these extraordinary ladies
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  Speaker 1: that I've just referred to. So that's how the book
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  Speaker 1: came back into memory. And my literary agent turned to
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  Speaker 1: me and said, well, you work with Diana, why don't
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  Speaker 1: you write a book. And I said, I'm never going
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  Speaker 1: to write a book. But then all at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: all of this interesting conversation, you know, and the New
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  Speaker 1: York Times interviewed me over one of one of the
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't an actress. She was a director that I
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  Speaker 1: worked with who had been abused continuously by a certain
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  Speaker 1: person who I think was eventually taken to court over
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  Speaker 1: the whole process. You know, you talked about Dodi. One
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  Speaker 1: of Diana's close friends once told me that Dodi was
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the best sex of her life. Did she ever talk
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: about things like this with you? So Dodi was the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: best sex of Diana's life or the person who told
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you Diana's life Dody was an amazing Yes, of course,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about it. I mean, Diana was very, very
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: very free. You know, once you were once you were
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in trusting, once you were enraptured by the kingdom of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the extraordinariness of Diana, then she was in absolute change.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But I mean, she shared a lot of confidential information
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: about her childhood and the way that she had been
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: abused or denigrated or subjugated in in really really painful ways.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So when somebody shares that amount of information, you know that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: But but yes, of course, I mean, you know, he
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: was a very sensual, loving man who is immensely passionate.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So I believe that they had a very very happy time,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the best the best sex. Yeah, I don't remember Diana
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: saying that. But then Diana wasn't just simply you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a free Martin in the way in the frame of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: George orwell, you know, she wasn't just simply a sexual object.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Diana needed to know that her heart was entrusted in
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the in the whole substance of making love. So she
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: didn't talk about having sex. She talked about making love,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and there is there is a distinct difference. So she
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: was not a slut. She didn't give herself easily. But
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: when she was a house and she was obviously an
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: extraordinarily beautiful, sensual lady. I mean, look at the elegance
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of the way that she moved in the clothes that
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: she wore, which for some reason has been omitted in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the new movie Spencer. You know that Kristen hasn't been
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: able to see that Diana was all about elegance and flow,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: whereas Christian's performance is very manner and it's very jerky,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: it's very stakata, and there was nothing stacato about Diana,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: even when in the height of passion. You know, she
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: was not jagged and jerky talking about looking after her
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: heart though you have done that in this new book,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Stuart Pierce. The book is called Diana the Voice of Change.
• 20:41
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• 20:45
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• 20:47
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• 20:51
  Speaker 1: And remember, if you're going to be naughty here, you've
• 20:55
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• 21:00
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