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Football at Four: Eagles Free Agency After Week 1 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Josh Philly for Mike Yell.
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  Speaker 2: time to check in with Jeff Mosher from the Inside
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  Speaker 2: on Nice seventh three ESPN. S Jeff, it's never boring
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Is It? Never has been?
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  Speaker 4: Never go Actually actually, Josh, I would say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: free agency for them has sort of been a little
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  Speaker 4: boring now that I think about it. And I mean
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  Speaker 4: they lose a out on Jaalen Phillips, Who's you know,
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  Speaker 4: that would have been a big splash have they made it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, Dallas Goddard's nice bringing back, but you
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  Speaker 4: know he was sort of a fixture here for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe they're starting to get a
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  Speaker 3: little boring.
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  Speaker 2: Well maybe it's a good thing then, because maybe boring
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  Speaker 2: is the new sign of success, because you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to be crazy. By the way, can I just say
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  Speaker 2: I said this earlier on the show. I think Jolih
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  Speaker 2: Phillips is a nice guy. Everyone seems to like him
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  Speaker 2: as a person. But he he said the biggest load
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  Speaker 2: of Horseman or This Morning, Good Morning Football, when he
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  Speaker 2: said the reason why he went to the Carolina Panthers
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  Speaker 2: is because they have a great football culture and he's
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  Speaker 2: always wanted to play for a team like that. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like, no, no, no, you know what to Carolina because
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  Speaker 2: they offered you thirty million dollars. All right, We're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be mad at you jailing to say that you
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  Speaker 2: were you had the opportunity to make life changing money,
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  Speaker 2: Like come on, man.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's true.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that not only does he not want
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  Speaker 5: to just say it's about the money. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when you're trying to acclimate yourself to a new town,
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  Speaker 5: you'd try to praise it. I mean, yes, it's this
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  Speaker 5: has been going on for the longest time, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think saying whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I remember.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny. I remember a long time ago. You'll
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  Speaker 5: remember this. Like Mike Hampton, you remember the left handed picture.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the Rockies, right, the Mets trade for him.
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  Speaker 5: He finishes out his year, Mets think they're going to
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  Speaker 5: resign him.
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  Speaker 3: He goes to Simon, Colorado. Big deal, which was terrible
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  Speaker 3: career move.
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  Speaker 5: But uh and in his press conference he makes some
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  Speaker 5: remark well they did.
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  Speaker 3: The school system was just unbeatable. You can't you can't beat.
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  Speaker 5: The school system in Denver, Colorado, I guess, or whatever,
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  Speaker 5: the Colorado suburbs, right, and like now, the New York
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  Speaker 5: media had fun with oh yeah, like there's really no
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  Speaker 5: good private schools in Manhattan or Queen's right, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean New York City school system, private school system
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  Speaker 5: where it probably cost you twenty five thousand a year
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  Speaker 5: to go, right, I'm sure that's not very good.
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  Speaker 3: No, Like I said, people, you know, people say anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's what we'll say.
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  Speaker 2: I think probably the biggest news Eagles wise, of the
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  Speaker 2: last few days is the Dallas Goddard signing yesterday. Because
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  Speaker 2: this is a guy Jeff that agreed not once, but twice.
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  Speaker 2: The pushback, the void date, so he obviously wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 1: Again.
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  Speaker 2: He's actually gonna make less money than he made last year.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, what does it say to you that
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  Speaker 2: a guy and Goddard who theorectly could have opened free agency,
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  Speaker 2: could have gone through the fifteen minutes of dating, you
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  Speaker 2: know cycle with everybody. He said, no, I really want
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  Speaker 2: to be here, especially after everything that's happened in the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, he must like the football culture you're in Philadelphia. Now, Look,
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  Speaker 5: it's not hasn't been a very fruitful market for tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: And you know the joke, who's still out there?
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  Speaker 5: Waller is still out there, John new Smith is still
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  Speaker 5: out there. I forget someone signed for a deal that
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  Speaker 5: was around eight million, seven million that I thought might
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  Speaker 5: get more just and I think it made it a
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  Speaker 5: little easier and more reasonable for both the Eagles in
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  Speaker 5: Dallas to make it work when the market for tight
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  Speaker 5: end for whatever reason, and that happens every agency, right,
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  Speaker 5: there's like a market that hits and there's a market
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  Speaker 5: that doesn't hit.
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  Speaker 3: And tight end just didn't hit.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it didn't hit?
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  Speaker 2: Because also maybe the draft class that people are looking
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  Speaker 2: ahead to the draft class and saying, hey, I really
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  Speaker 2: I really want to get in on some of those
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  Speaker 2: guys instead of spending money on guys who maybe they're
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  Speaker 2: upside like like you. If it's Isaiah Likely, he got
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  Speaker 2: a nice little contract from the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: I think the AAV is like thirteen million.
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  Speaker 2: But you could argue that there's five or six guys
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  Speaker 2: in this draft class whose potential is higher than Isaiah Likely.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's possible. That certainly is the case. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's just the more there weren't that many young tight
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  Speaker 5: ends like Isaiah Likely. You know, the guys I just
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  Speaker 5: mentioned were, uh, you know, whether it's Najokh or Goddard
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  Speaker 5: or John new Smith or Waller, right, I mean they've
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  Speaker 5: all been around the league. If there was you know, Likely, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean I think if there was a younger, if
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  Speaker 5: Gonnard was maybe three or four years younger, he probably
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  Speaker 5: would have hit a little bit harder on the on
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  Speaker 5: the money, you know, or better on the money scale.
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  Speaker 5: But you're right, team are seeing the age of tight
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  Speaker 5: end and seeing how good of a tight end class
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  Speaker 5: this was.
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  Speaker 3: In last year, A couple of teams loaded up on it.
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  Speaker 5: There weren't that many good tight ends last year, but
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  Speaker 5: they were it was a top heavy group. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it just created a year where the market wasn't so great.
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  Speaker 2: Now, of course Goddard signs for a one year deal,
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  Speaker 2: so did Grant Calcatara. So do not trying to put
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  Speaker 2: words in the eagle's mouth, but to me, signing one
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  Speaker 2: year deals, to me, is a clear signal that they
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  Speaker 2: are going to look at tight end in this draft,
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  Speaker 2: considering they have two guys under one year contracts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they have to.
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  Speaker 5: They had to do it, whether they signed Goddard or not,
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  Speaker 5: because you're right, you look at Goddard one year, him
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  Speaker 5: Calkatara one year, month, one year a lot to last
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  Speaker 5: year of a two years. So technically they might have
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  Speaker 5: zero tight ends under contract in two thousand and twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: So they need to rebuild the position.
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  Speaker 5: It's a position that they've done an excellent job if
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  Speaker 5: you think about it, for almost two decades, being able
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  Speaker 5: to go from one to another to another. Starter right
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  Speaker 5: from Chad Lewis, L. J. Smith and Brent Sellick zach
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  Speaker 5: Ertz to Dallas Goddard. Okay, I don't think I missed
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  Speaker 5: any starter in between there. That's about fifteen to twenty
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  Speaker 5: years of really good tight end play.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought they were going to do it last year.
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  Speaker 5: It didn't work out, But by bringing back Goddard here
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  Speaker 5: for a year, it does allow them.
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  Speaker 3: To draft a tight end.
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  Speaker 5: If they don't draft the tight end this year, then
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  Speaker 5: maybe suddenly they don't value the position the way they
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  Speaker 5: used to. I don't think that's the case, but I
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  Speaker 5: really think that it makes a whole lot of sense
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  Speaker 5: for this year for them to be able to draft
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  Speaker 5: a tight end, so they don't have to reach now
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  Speaker 5: right because you have got it. You don't have to
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  Speaker 5: use your first round pick and say I can't line
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  Speaker 5: up and play a football game right now unless I
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  Speaker 5: use a first round pick on a tight end because
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  Speaker 5: you have Goddard and Calcatara and a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: depth there.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely Jeff Mosher joining us for the Inside the Bird
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  Speaker 2: podcast and Philly Boyce at Jeff P. Mosher on the
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  Speaker 2: l form here all in Sports Batch Football at four
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  Speaker 2: on Nice seven three ESPN. So with that being said, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so Goddard's back, we got that check mark, right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they bring in Rik Wollen, They got that check mark.
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  Speaker 2: There's still a couple other situations where they have holes
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  Speaker 2: to fill, right, safety being one, edge rusher being another.
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  Speaker 2: We know the Eagles in the past, some of their
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  Speaker 2: biggest moves, Jeff have not come during the month of March.
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  Speaker 2: They've come late March April May. So how important is
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  Speaker 2: it to remind people out there that Howie season does
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  Speaker 2: not end when the first week of free agency, because
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  Speaker 2: Howie season is all season, right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think le Garrett Blunt a huge part
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  Speaker 5: of their first Super Bowl success, I think was a
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  Speaker 5: May signing. Makai Beckton was signed the day after the
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  Speaker 5: third day of the draft, So like April twenty ninth
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  Speaker 5: or thirtieth two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: CJ. Gardner Johnson was acquired.
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  Speaker 5: Via trade aid a week before the start of the
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  Speaker 5: season August thirtieth. There you go Johan Dotson as well,
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  Speaker 5: although he wouldn't I wouldn't call him this high impact.
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  Speaker 3: But the point is the Eagles will.
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  Speaker 5: I mean Chris Long, the Eagles will continue to always
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  Speaker 5: add to their roster all threat and how he says
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  Speaker 5: this all the time the off season.
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  Speaker 3: That is not the first two weeks of free agency.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just the draft.
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  Speaker 5: There's plenty of time to the trademarket and late, late
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  Speaker 5: signings to help your team.
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  Speaker 2: I always will remember that Garrett Blunt was when he
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  Speaker 2: was signed by the Eagles, Jeff, because he was signing
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  Speaker 2: my birthday.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what a happy birthday that was for you.
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  Speaker 2: It's a happy birthday, John, here's the Garrett Blunt. He's
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  Speaker 2: gonna run people over for a Super Bowl champion and
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  Speaker 2: give you something to talk about that day on the radio.
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  Speaker 5: I will say, though, that you make this point, and
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  Speaker 5: I think that people can be misled though when you
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  Speaker 5: say do they You know, they need depth. They need
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  Speaker 5: a guy at safety, right, and they need a guy
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  Speaker 5: at wide receiver. But they actually need more than a guy.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, these are positions they need a starter and depth.
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  Speaker 5: Take a look at safety, right. So they have Andrew mccooba.
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  Speaker 5: Their number two safety right now is whom Carter Mike Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So he's in the mix.
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  Speaker 5: That's and he's not even played safety in a long time.
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  Speaker 5: Sidney Brown is not going to play defense for this team.
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  Speaker 3: Know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I said that before you came on, Jeff, about how
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  Speaker 2: I think the Sydney Brown lack of development is a
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  Speaker 2: coverage safety and becoming more of a special teams guy
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  Speaker 2: has kind of pigeonholed the Eagles roster wise to have
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  Speaker 2: a guy who like they won him for special teams,
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  Speaker 2: but he ain't going out there and starting seventeen games
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  Speaker 2: at safety right right.
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  Speaker 5: So you look at the situation and you say, you
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  Speaker 5: have one starter and you have a really nothing after
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  Speaker 5: that that you feel really confident about if there's an injury.
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  Speaker 5: So they absolutely need a safety, and then they need
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  Speaker 5: a number three safety, which could come by the draft,
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  Speaker 5: who knows, but they and same thing a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 5: Aj Brown stays, that's great if he does. If not,
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  Speaker 5: they of course need an outside wide receiver right him.
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  Speaker 5: And but who's their number three right wide receiver right now?
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  Speaker 5: With Johan Dattson gone? I mean, and that's why I
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  Speaker 5: think they really need to get themselves a slot, a
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  Speaker 5: real true slot wide receiver, not as Ze miscast is
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  Speaker 5: one the way Dotson was. And when Adam and I
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  Speaker 5: were talking about that on the podcast had dropped this morning,
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  Speaker 5: I asked him to read me the list, and I
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  Speaker 5: was like, hey, you know what, there's some pretty There's
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  Speaker 5: like Keenan Allen and Adam Thielen and there was somebody
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  Speaker 5: else you mentioned. I'm like Keenan Allen just had eighty catches,
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  Speaker 5: you know last year for the Charger. That's pretty good
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  Speaker 5: for a guy his age. Get a guy like that
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  Speaker 5: one year deal, obviously, you know some of them may
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  Speaker 5: want a little bit more than just a veteran minimum.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I would take to Adam Thieleen,
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  Speaker 5: you're not playing this guy seventy percent of the game anyway,
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  Speaker 5: because you're still gonna be in a twelve personnel decent,
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  Speaker 5: but get some guy who's played the slot and knows
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  Speaker 5: how to play it, and then build your depth. You know,
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  Speaker 5: missing on a Naia Smith a couple of years ago
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  Speaker 5: hurt them, Johnny Wilson's injury last year hurt them. And
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  Speaker 5: Darius Cooper. I liked what I saw from him, Josh,
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  Speaker 5: and I think he can be a player in this league.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's probably more of an outside receiver. You know,
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  Speaker 5: they did play him in the slot when they wanted
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  Speaker 5: to run and put him in there because its a
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  Speaker 5: big body guy. Maybe he can acclimate it, but you
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  Speaker 5: can't bank on that.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, one guy just got taken off
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  Speaker 2: the market just now, as we're talking Christian Kirk.
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  Speaker 1: He decided one with the other guy. He decided one,
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  Speaker 1: you deal with the forty nine.
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  Speaker 5: Ersh which is so smart, right, And my man, the Niners,
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  Speaker 5: what a quietly good offseason they've had, right with Mike Evans.
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  Speaker 5: They bring back Drake Greenlaw, they just signed Kirk. They're
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  Speaker 5: gonna get through that Brandon Ayuk situation. They obviously have
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  Speaker 5: a good offense. We know that they'll get Bosa back
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  Speaker 5: from the ACL. It's a team that won twelve games
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  Speaker 5: with like popsicle sticks and gum of a roster, right,
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  Speaker 5: especially on defense, So that that's a really smart signing
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  Speaker 5: by them. That was one of the guys I had
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  Speaker 5: to mention that I thought would be perfect for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Does does Kirk then signed with the forty nine Ers
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  Speaker 2: make Juwan Jennings more interesting for the Eagles?
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  Speaker 5: Sure, And that's the kind of guy I think would
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  Speaker 5: really function well.
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  Speaker 3: But I would say you could probably look this and
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  Speaker 3: google this.
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  Speaker 5: I think throughout his forty nine Ers career he's kind
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  Speaker 5: of wanted a lot, like a decent amount of money
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  Speaker 5: for who he is, right, he was always seemingly asking
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  Speaker 5: for one running. I don't the Eagles are not putting
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  Speaker 5: out a lot of cash here. So but listen, and
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  Speaker 5: the Eagles still have to go get themselves an edge.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the other conversation.
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  Speaker 5: You know, who's left nobody in free agency that's gonna
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  Speaker 5: give you the equivalent of what you were hoping for
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  Speaker 5: out of jail and Phillips. So now you have all
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  Speaker 5: that money to spend that you were gonna spell and
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  Speaker 5: spend on Jaylen Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: Where does it go?
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  Speaker 5: Because now how he's got to be creative in the
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  Speaker 5: trade market, find an edge and then maybe give that
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  Speaker 5: guy an extension.
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  Speaker 2: See my problem with Jennings is is that the injury history.
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  Speaker 2: This guy has had numerous injuries over the years, but
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  Speaker 2: he keeps demanding he wants more targets. It's like we'll
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  Speaker 2: get on the field man, Like he went, you want
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  Speaker 2: more targets?
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  Speaker 1: Can you play throw the ball?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's always a promise some of these guys,
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  Speaker 2: and that is like they value themselves. I don't blame
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  Speaker 2: them for budan so high. Look at John Phillips. He
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  Speaker 2: took a huge game with the free agent mark. He
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  Speaker 2: cashed him big.
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  Speaker 1: Good for him.
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  Speaker 2: But like Juwan Jennings, has some self awareness to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to give you the money, get
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  Speaker 2: go get something like I think the Rik Woolen deal
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  Speaker 2: should be the model for a guy like Jennings to
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  Speaker 2: be like, go get a one year deal and just
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  Speaker 2: ball out and then go at the market again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's not a bad suggestion.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what, all he has to do is
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  Speaker 5: use the tape against the Eagles game to show what
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  Speaker 5: he can do, because he made the Eagles look silly
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  Speaker 5: on a couple of big catches in that game.
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  Speaker 2: Come on here for Jeff Mosher from the Inside the
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  Speaker 2: Birds podcast Philly Voyce checking out all of his writing
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  Speaker 2: about the Eagles over there. Other news that came out
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  Speaker 2: today down with Darius Slagh retiring officially from the NFL. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I will clarify he has been talking about retiring after
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  Speaker 2: thirteen years for about the last three years. So if
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  Speaker 2: you's listened over to listen to his podcast, he has
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  Speaker 2: talked about on his pod about how he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: play thirteen years and then retire. So I think he
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  Speaker 2: was surprised, but I do think it's the opportunity for
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  Speaker 2: us to talk about the value that he brought to
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles because I remember when he was acquired, Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: there was a long dearth of like good corners for
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia for many years, and you could argue that the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles would have not had this success, not just on
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  Speaker 2: the field, but the development of the younger players like
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  Speaker 2: the the Jeans and the Mitchells if Slay wasn't on
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  Speaker 2: this team for those years.
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  Speaker 5: One of the most significant trade acquisitions by the Eagles
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  Speaker 5: over the last twenty five years. I mean, Jason Peters
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  Speaker 5: probably number one, right, but you can put Sleigh. I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to think who else. I mean, obviously aj Brown
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  Speaker 5: up there, but you know what Slay is. Slay is
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  Speaker 5: in that mold and because you could even I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to put him above Peters because Peters is so good.
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  Speaker 5: But honestly, they won the Super Bowl without Peters because
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  Speaker 5: he was hurt. Slay was so vital because as you
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: just mentioned, for years, for twenty taking years, Eagles were
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: drafting corners, signing corners, trying.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: To get corners. And you know, they did win their
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: first Super Bowl without Sleigh. They wasn't on the team then,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: but they were just getting by.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, they gave a five hundred freaking passing yards
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl. But Slay was finally the answer.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was sort of like the white whale
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: for the Eagles, right, like, finally they had a corner
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: who was good. They only had to give him a
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: third and a fifth round pick to get him. And
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: you know, that first year was twenty twenty, so it
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: was rough because the team was just terrible and imploded.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: But it started to payoff.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Very next year he was a Pro bowler again, and
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: then the year after that they win a Super Bowl.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: And then he winds up sticking around a couple of
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: years longer, and he winds up making three Pro Bowls
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: with the Eagle. Find a cornerback to make three Pro
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: bowls for the Eagles in the last twenty I think
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: Leedo made two. I don't think he made three, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think Sheldon made any. Actually he was really
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: good but sort of solid. I have to go back
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: and look.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: At Leedo two.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Lino made two, all right, this guy made three just
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: with the Eagles, and I think six uh in his career.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: So he was and first first of all, also not
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: to be forgotten, he was a glue guy in the
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: locker room. Yes, the young kids, especially Quina, Mitchell and Dejane,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: learned a lot from him. He was great accountabilit he
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: was accountable, he was good with sports writers.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Not that that matters, but it just he set a
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: good example.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: But there's a reason why that matters. Is started a
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: ruck you. But I gotta point this out, and I
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: pointed that earlier he showed the younger player. You showed
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the other players how to handle the media. That'st example,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: because I don't think Cooper Degene would be as talkative
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: as he is with the media now.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Jordan Davis would be evolved into the talkative guy with
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: the media now if Slay didn't take those guys aside
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and directly and indirectly show them the way.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Very possible, Josh.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Cooper and both Quinna and Cooper
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: came from like the small mark I was a big
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: college football team, but it's a smaller market, right And
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: of course Toleno, uh so, yeah, I think he did
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: set an example.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: And again, I mean it's.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Just I think for the Eagle fan to finally see
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: a cornerback come in here and work out after some
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: really you know, disastrous years in between say the Lido
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: and the Sheldon and the Sante Samuel years. It was
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: it was probably really a welcome it was well, it
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: was definitely a welcome edition.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And with that being said, I wouldn't be surprised to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the Eagles draft more secondary depth in the draft this year.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, just because of the fact, like you said,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it's not just safety, it's you know, people keep bringing
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: up to us on the textboard, Jeff, about how well
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you know Cooper could play safety, But my mind keeps
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: going back to how until the Fangio said, We're not
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: gonna play Cooper somewhere else unless we have a good
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: enough slot corner. So they've made it very clear that,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: at least Fangio has I think the Eagles have had
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: through their their moves and their signing, they're not gonna
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: move Cooper Degene to safety unless they have a bona
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: fide slot corner.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I agree with that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: I agree, and that's why Riquilling is here, because they
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: want him to be a good enough, at least good
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: enough outside corner to keep Cooper de Gene in the
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: slot and we'll see what they do at safety. I
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: still think, well, I know I know when the Eagles
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: drafted Cooper de Gene, they viewed him as an outside corner.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: That's how they viewed him. Some teams viewed him as
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: a safety.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Eagles viewed him as an outside corner who could thrive
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: in the nickel. So just because there's they're hurting at
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: safety doesn't mean Cooper's gonna play there. It's funny because
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: around OTA's last year was a big storyline. He was
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: practicing at safety on the first team base defense, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: then that just went away because he started practicing at
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: corner on the first team base defense.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: We will continue to monitor how the Eagles progressed the offseason.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: By the time Jeff Mosher returns with us back on
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Wednesday here for Football at four, the Eagles could have
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: made another edition.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And then how to pronounce that guy's name? Right?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: We will, we hopefully we will. Who do? Who Do?
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Who's your final for? Josh? Oh my goodness, Wednesday.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you when, dude, I haven't even done a
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: bracket yet, Like.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Come on, it's Monday. You gotta get on this thing. Man.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Well you know I'm doing. I'm here by myself in
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the studio. You know I'll cry a river for a
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: hot second. You know, I'm doing a contest in between
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: the breaks, you know, I got I got Mike Gil
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: texting me yesterday that people are trying to qualify for
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: a contest.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, do I get? Do I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: get one day to myself?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Like, well, I didn't even know Gil was gonna be
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: off today. Where is he at?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: This is his week to get a clear water?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Oh of course. I mean, I guess Egypt wasn't enough.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Jeez, let's see.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I guess it's my fault. I should have texted you
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and Adam and let you guys know.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: That's okay, all right, we'll chat wednesday. Give me some
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: good sleeper, I have some sat John's got screwed by
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: the way. And I'm I'm a Yukon fan, you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: being from Connecticut all but like terrible that they got
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: the fifth seed in the same brand at his Yukon
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: kidding the two that's awful.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I mean for me, the only the only thing I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: really hot on right now when it comes to the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: tournament is I keep waffling about how much I believe
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: in Arizona.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: That's like my big thing.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so with you. I'm trying to figure.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at that Nova Arizona second round potential matchup,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: thinking Nova can win that game.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I do think Nova can win that game.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: The crazy thing about the tournament nowadays is that, for
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: for as much NIL money is out there being thrown around, Jeff,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: it's not like it created like that much more parody.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: It's not like you're gonna, I don't I don't think
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you're going to see, like, you know, a one lose
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: with sixteen ever again, you know what I mean, Like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think that stuff's gonna happen anymore.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: I think I think the NIL has made the blue
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: bloods bluer, right, So yeah, yeah, just.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Look at Duke. They got all the got all the boozers.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, Duke and Michigan to me are the clear best.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: I think Florida is just a little tick below, although
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: they could beat them, and then if for as arison,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: I think I actually like Iowa State a lot.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: They're kind of like a sleeper for me.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: But I don't really see anybody after those first three
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: that I think I would give like a really good
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: shot at winning.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I like Michigan State to baby scare somebody to believe,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I mean every year.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's just like you know that that
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: team feels like a body shot team. It's like, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: if you ever watched like a boxer, they go through
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: their career and they're like like a knockout artist, right,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and then they that one guy that's like an r
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: O gotty Mickey Ward guy who just body shots you
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the death, like I feel like Michigan's Sacred body shot
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a team like Duke and just like wear them out.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I could see that, and you know, I think they're
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: they're the three where the Yukon is the two. So
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I could absolutely see them beating up on Yukon and
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: get to that game.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, I'll have some more concise answers for
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: you on Wednesday. I'll be my homework.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little disappointed, Josh. You have to
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: come come better Wednesday.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'll do my best.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Thanks Tomorrow.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be better than ever. Jeff, Thanks man, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. See