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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
- 0:03Speaker 1: is Brian. I'm here with Alison and this is maintaining
- 0:06Speaker 1: frame number one forty seven. It's Bash of Pickney Month
- 0:10Speaker 1: Advocate and Emily King are on blast where we're going
- 0:15Speaker 1: to be looking at a couple of videos I have
- 0:21Speaker 1: I have endured the bullshit and found about three clips from.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Each video Golden nuggets.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Means that this is probably going to be like two
- 0:31Speaker 1: hours and require a two parter or so.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I'll try to avoid that.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh yeah, do you want to do the
- 0:40Speaker 1: things before we get into it?
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- 1:12Speaker 2: do that, because you are the reason why we are
- 1:14Speaker 2: able to do this work, And I mean we've been
- 1:16Speaker 2: doing I've been doing some background work in the algorithm,
- 1:20Speaker 2: and I think part of the issue is that there
- 1:22Speaker 2: isn't a huge ecosystem for men's issues, Like so we
- 1:26Speaker 2: don't get actually recommended to other content because the algorithm
- 1:29Speaker 2: is like, what what are you? And we're like, well,
- 1:32Speaker 2: we advocate for men's issues, and the algorithm's like that,
- 1:35Speaker 2: but nobody does that, nobody but you, So where do
- 1:38Speaker 2: I recommend you? So because you guys support us, we
- 1:42Speaker 2: can continue to beat our heads against that brick wall,
- 1:46Speaker 2: but in a good way, you know, in a way
- 1:48Speaker 2: that hopefully one day the brick wall will break and
- 1:51Speaker 2: these issues won't become something that people just shove into
- 1:56Speaker 2: a corner. All right, So why don't we begin?
- 2:00Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna be looking at videos, a video
- 2:04Speaker 1: from We have a couple of videos, but this first
- 2:06Speaker 1: one is from a channel called the Queer Kiwi featuring
- 2:09Speaker 1: a girl, a Kiwi girl, New Zealand or whatever.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Who.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Well, I think you can just we don't like to
- 2:18Speaker 1: judge a book by its cover, but I think it's
- 2:21Speaker 1: patently obvious what's going on here. And she is responding
- 2:25Speaker 1: to Emily King or Emily W. King, who is like
- 2:32Speaker 1: the advocate, kind of like a you know, female men's
- 2:35Speaker 1: issues advocate that's blown up in the past few years.
- 2:40Speaker 1: But yeah, queer kiwi is at about half a million subscribers,
- 2:44Speaker 1: so I want you to take into account how big
- 2:47Speaker 1: this channel is. So anyway, let's go ahead and listen
- 2:52Speaker 1: to this first bit where she's going to listen to
- 2:54Speaker 1: Emily King and was a series called Secrets about Women
- 2:59Speaker 1: where she explains women and a dadvocate has a series
- 3:04Speaker 1: called Woman's Plating to Women, which is not quite the same,
- 3:07Speaker 1: but it's like helping women understand men. But anyway, let's
- 3:11Speaker 1: give this.
- 3:11Speaker 3: A listen, says and we're all keeping under lock and
- 3:13Speaker 3: key to manipulate men, shall we.
- 3:15Speaker 4: A woman will never admit when she's fresh out of
- 3:18Speaker 4: a relationship, whether she broke up with him or he
- 3:20Speaker 4: broke up with her, she is going to check in
- 3:23Speaker 4: with the guys that have been lying in wait. She's
- 3:25Speaker 4: going to let them know that she's single. But here's
- 3:27Speaker 4: the kicker. The only thing that she's going to take
- 3:30Speaker 4: from those guys is a bunch of their time and
- 3:32Speaker 4: attention because she just wants her ego stroke she's not
- 3:35Speaker 4: going to have any relations with any of them because
- 3:37Speaker 4: she knew those men when she picked out her boyfriend.
- 3:40Speaker 4: Her boyfriend was most likely her number one out of
- 3:43Speaker 4: the guys that wanted her. Only exception is the one
- 3:45Speaker 4: guy that she was interested in that.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Um, is she that wrong?
- 3:52Speaker 5: Though?
- 3:53Speaker 1: Uh? No, I don't think so. Well, at least, I
- 3:55Speaker 1: don't think that this is useless information.
- 3:58Speaker 2: No, but no it's not. I mean it is. It
- 4:02Speaker 2: is useful information because you are looking at and you
- 4:06Speaker 2: know what's funny is this information just used to be like, yeah,
- 4:09Speaker 2: it's common knowledge that a woman would be courting or
- 4:11Speaker 2: would be courted by multiple suitors and would be picking
- 4:15Speaker 2: hit her her preferred from the lot.
- 4:17Speaker 1: You know.
- 4:18Speaker 2: One hundred years ago, everybody was like, yeah, that's just
- 4:20Speaker 2: the case, And now it's misogyny. Why is it misogyny
- 4:26Speaker 2: to accept the fact that women are generally the choosers.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in the daily market
- 4:31Speaker 2: exactly right now. It seems like it's a bloodbath on
- 4:34Speaker 2: both sides. But generally the women are the ones who
- 4:36Speaker 2: are choosing from a group of men, and men are
- 4:41Speaker 2: the ones who are well and presumably they might be
- 4:45Speaker 2: courting more than one woman. But why has this become
- 4:47Speaker 2: misogyny to point that out?
- 4:51Speaker 1: Oh well, let's let her see if the key we
- 4:55Speaker 1: has anything to say. Well, we got to finish this
- 4:57Speaker 1: clip because she's kind of like she wants to play
- 4:59Speaker 1: the whole thing and then respond to it.
- 5:01Speaker 2: So I'm like, cobspletely out of her league.
- 5:04Speaker 4: But then she realized that he was completely out of
- 5:06Speaker 4: her league, and well he's absolete now because he's probably married.
- 5:09Speaker 2: But she views these.
- 5:10Speaker 4: Other men as lying in wait if they're still single,
- 5:13Speaker 4: and she might get one or two or maybe even
- 5:16Speaker 4: three of them thinking that they have a real chance
- 5:18Speaker 4: with her.
- 5:19Speaker 2: But they don't. They don't.
- 5:20Speaker 4: She's going to stop talking to them when she finds
- 5:22Speaker 4: her new number one or goes back to an X.
- 5:25Speaker 4: This is why men, you never want the woman that
- 5:27Speaker 4: circles back, because she is only going to be a
- 5:29Speaker 4: drain on your time and energy.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Trust me.
- 5:34Speaker 1: All right, I'm just pausing for the banana before we
- 5:36Speaker 1: get her response. All right, let's let's go. Let's see
- 5:40Speaker 1: what she has to say.
- 5:41Speaker 3: The generalization and like just the absurdity of this, right,
- 5:48Speaker 3: this is so just playing into the narrative that men
- 5:53Speaker 3: have completely made up, like.
- 5:55Speaker 2: This is okay the generalizations. We're gonna play the generalizations game.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Men have oppressed women throughout all of human history. Like,
- 6:06Speaker 2: you're not just generalizing about the men you're trying to date.
- 6:09Speaker 2: You're generalizing about men in now. You're generalizing about men
- 6:14Speaker 2: twenty five years ago, one hundred years ago, a thousand
- 6:17Speaker 2: years ago, two thousand years ago. You're generalizing men since
- 6:21Speaker 2: men existed, And you are going to say this is
- 6:25Speaker 2: a problem, and it isn't even that big of a
- 6:27Speaker 2: negative generalization. I mean, it's unfortunate, but you know it's
- 6:33Speaker 2: it's sort of the way it plays out in this
- 6:36Speaker 2: kind of free for all dating market where women are
- 6:39Speaker 2: the sellers and it's a seller's market, right, just acknowledging
- 6:43Speaker 2: this is not misogyny, just recognizing the generalization. Do you
- 6:47Speaker 2: generalize things like, oh, men don't like women who are
- 6:51Speaker 2: as plump as I am, and you say something like, well,
- 6:55Speaker 2: that's not that is lookism, that's a generalization. Everybody thinks
- 6:59Speaker 2: in generalizations, and that what this has become is this
- 7:02Speaker 2: kind of battle between my generalizations are right and your
- 7:05Speaker 2: generalizations are wrong, and you are on the side that
- 7:09Speaker 2: has never had to back up your generalizations. You're not
- 7:12Speaker 2: just generalizing about your experience in the dating landscape, and
- 7:16Speaker 2: I guarantee she does. She generalizes about men. In fact,
- 7:20Speaker 2: I'm guessing that this is forty eight minutes of generalizing
- 7:23Speaker 2: about men. A might, okay, spoilers for anybody who has
- 7:28Speaker 2: never clued in on this content, But it's become this
- 7:31Speaker 2: battle of whose generalizations are right? Except your generalizations are
- 7:35Speaker 2: accepted by institutions, by academia, by government, by NGOs without
- 7:41Speaker 2: any kind of scientific rigor to those generalizations. She's not
- 7:47Speaker 2: saying that women are oppressing men because they choose multiple
- 7:52Speaker 2: men and keep you know, She's just acknowledging a reality,
- 7:56Speaker 2: a patent reality in a dating landscape where women are
- 8:00Speaker 2: sellers and it's a seller's market. Like, I mean, whose
- 8:05Speaker 2: generalizations are more toxic? Maybe is what we should get
- 8:08Speaker 2: down to right here?
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah, which ones are? I mean, generalizations are not wrong
- 8:15Speaker 1: in and of themselves. I think that like, how can
- 8:17Speaker 1: we make judgments on things if we don't have some generalizations?
- 8:21Speaker 1: But they should be rooted in some truth. There should
- 8:25Speaker 1: be a kernel of truth to generalizations. And well, anyway,
- 8:32Speaker 1: let's play some more. This is uh, yeah, this is
- 8:35Speaker 1: that she's not great, but somebody wanted us to watch it,
- 8:39Speaker 1: so here we are.
- 8:40Speaker 3: This is such a strong, like red pill narrative. It
- 8:43Speaker 3: is such a massive thing that all these like fresh
- 8:46Speaker 3: and Fit podcasts, aggrewate type men love to push to
- 8:50Speaker 3: be like women are all sluts. They'll all use you,
- 8:54Speaker 3: They're all gonna take advantage of views and just gonna.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I thought I thought we were supposed to I thought
- 8:59Speaker 1: we were supposed to sell celebrate women being sluts. I
- 9:01Speaker 1: thought that was a.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
- 9:03Speaker 1: So I lived in a positive like sex positive time.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I guess it's it's only ever wrong if men have
- 9:10Speaker 1: any opinion on it at all, Like even yeah, that's it.
- 9:14Speaker 1: It's just men having an opinion on something. It doesn't
- 9:16Speaker 1: matter what the opinion is. If they say, well I
- 9:19Speaker 1: like it. When a woman is like, you know, slutty,
- 9:21Speaker 1: they'll be like, you're not allowed to do that. You're
- 9:23Speaker 1: not allowed to like even in the positive, even as
- 9:26Speaker 1: an affirmation.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Remember when Men's Rights Edmonton was a thing and Nick
- 9:34Speaker 2: would go out in a sandwich board saying I love
- 9:37Speaker 2: sluts to the slut walk and you would get so
- 9:42Speaker 2: many angry, angry, angry people saying no, you can't do that.
- 9:47Speaker 2: I thought this was a walk celebrating sluts, though.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Jeremy us review says, uh, women are flawed beings. Is
- 9:56Speaker 1: not a red pill talking point, I'm sorry, but it is.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Now it is? Yeah, actually, now it is. Yes, yes,
- 10:02Speaker 1: it is like I'm they they've made it that. This
- 10:05Speaker 1: is where the Overton window has thrunk. It's gone from
- 10:09Speaker 1: a window for women in feminism. It's gone from a
- 10:12Speaker 1: window to one of those little tiny like you know,
- 10:15Speaker 1: those little circles that a little bit of light in
- 10:17Speaker 1: on your front door, you know, like that you maybe
- 10:20Speaker 1: you like that you can like put a it's like
- 10:22Speaker 1: a male slot. That's basically what it is. So yeah,
- 10:25Speaker 1: it is a red pill talking point. Now, sorry to
- 10:26Speaker 1: break it to you. Just having an opinion on that
- 10:30Speaker 1: is red is a red pill talking point. Now, so,
- 10:34Speaker 1: and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Hey, if it
- 10:36Speaker 1: just so happens that the only people that know how
- 10:39Speaker 1: to like address reality as it is and has like normal,
- 10:44Speaker 1: you know, ways of perceiving, if that makes us red pill,
- 10:47Speaker 1: then fuck yeah, I'm like I'm basically like maroon pilled.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I'm basically like the deepest red like, you know, like barnyard,
- 10:56Speaker 1: barn house red. That's that's what I'm at. Yeah, deep
- 11:00Speaker 1: ultra ultrah what is it infrared? I'm infrared pilled because
- 11:07Speaker 1: I like, you know, I observe reality ultra red. Yeah,
- 11:12Speaker 1: so anyway, fucking metallic red. Yeah.
- 11:17Speaker 2: It's like you said, men cannot have an opinion. They
- 11:21Speaker 2: will push for something. They will say that all women
- 11:24Speaker 2: should be sluts. Sluts should be accepted, there should be
- 11:26Speaker 2: no slut shaming. But if men have an opinion, even like, well,
- 11:31Speaker 2: the world is now sluts, sluts there, slut's here. This
- 11:35Speaker 2: is how you appeal to sluts. This is how you
- 11:37Speaker 2: live with sluts. This is how you manage sluts. This
- 11:39Speaker 2: is how you try to make your life reasonable when
- 11:43Speaker 2: it's covered in sluts. This is the you know, this
- 11:46Speaker 2: is the slut bait. This is the the slut deterrent device.
- 11:49Speaker 2: This is how you get sluts out of off your cabbages.
- 11:52Speaker 2: This is how you you you gather them up and
- 11:55Speaker 2: turn them into a marketable commodity. This is this is
- 11:58Speaker 2: how you get sluts out of your out of your
- 12:00Speaker 2: heating ducks.
- 12:00Speaker 1: You know.
- 12:02Speaker 2: This is how you eat sluts on on on with
- 12:05Speaker 2: pine nuts and spinach. You know, that's just like if
- 12:08Speaker 2: men have any kind of formula for dealing with the
- 12:12Speaker 2: world as women want it to be, any kind of
- 12:16Speaker 2: way of managing their situation, they call it misogyny. What
- 12:21Speaker 2: what do they expect?
- 12:22Speaker 6: Like, women are like, okay, now, the world is is
- 12:26Speaker 6: is basically a quantum slut topia sluts from the quantum
- 12:31Speaker 6: level all the way to the cosmic level.
- 12:34Speaker 2: And men are just like, well, okay, well how do
- 12:35Speaker 2: I navigate that?
- 12:36Speaker 3: Oh?
- 12:37Speaker 2: Misogyny? And also, at this point in time, I think
- 12:42Speaker 2: just saying something like women poop is misogyny. Women past gas,
- 12:48Speaker 2: that's misogyny.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Yep, okay, women, So let's blame some let's listen to
- 12:53Speaker 1: more of the video to.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Lead you on, and they're all gonna just drain you
- 12:58Speaker 3: of your energy and then toss you aside and then
- 13:01Speaker 3: keep you on the hook and come back to you
- 13:02Speaker 3: like fuck off with that bullshit, all right, Like, that's
- 13:06Speaker 3: not how this works. This is not how a majority
- 13:11Speaker 3: of people work.
- 13:14Speaker 1: I see people meaning people meaning not men.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, she said people.
- 13:20Speaker 1: She didn't mean men. She didn't. Obviously, men have a
- 13:24Speaker 1: way that they work, and she understands that. You know,
- 13:27Speaker 1: you know the I've watched two of her videos. Thanks
- 13:29Speaker 1: whoever sent this Richard for putting me through that, because
- 13:32Speaker 1: it's completely useless content. That is just her saying yikes
- 13:36Speaker 1: for like forty minutes. That's bab, that's her. That's her
- 13:39Speaker 1: Reactionak god, that's it. Yeah, it's her saying yikes. Ew
- 13:45Speaker 1: you know, give me that. This gives me the ick.
- 13:47Speaker 1: That's her whole stick like four hundred and forty five
- 13:52Speaker 1: thousand subscribers. Like, if we were grifters, I swear I
- 13:57Speaker 1: would just paint my hair pink and just like say
- 14:00Speaker 1: and yikes, and paint my nails and I would probably
- 14:03Speaker 1: make millions. But I'm stuck here. Yeah it would It
- 14:07Speaker 1: would be perfect. It would be perfect if I only
- 14:10Speaker 1: had zero integrity.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Yeah I know that. If you if you were just
- 14:14Speaker 2: willing to just take part in the long sluice of
- 14:18Speaker 2: our society into destruction, you know, just just get yours,
- 14:22Speaker 2: get your bag while everything slides into the chasm that
- 14:26Speaker 2: we do that.
- 14:27Speaker 1: But I would actually like to.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Have lights and electricity and sewer and all that other stuff.
- 14:34Speaker 2: So I want to I want to actually lay the
- 14:37Speaker 2: groundwork to challenging the stuff that's going to destroy all
- 14:39Speaker 2: of that very literally.
- 14:41Speaker 1: All right, let's suh, all right, let's play some more.
- 14:45Speaker 3: A lot of women, and I don't know of a
- 14:48Speaker 3: single woman who does this. I've never known a single
- 14:52Speaker 3: woman who does this.
- 14:53Speaker 2: However, yes, but your your sample sizes probably restricted to
- 15:01Speaker 2: women like yourself who may not have the means to
- 15:05Speaker 2: do this. But I'm guessing that if we reverse the
- 15:08Speaker 2: sexes and say that that be careful women out there
- 15:13Speaker 2: in the dating pool, because there are men who look good,
- 15:16Speaker 2: but they'll drain you of everything and they'll they won't commit.
- 15:21Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have a problem with that
- 15:24Speaker 2: at all, right, regardless if actually what they're talking about
- 15:29Speaker 2: is like the top five percent that they're all going after.
- 15:32Speaker 2: But again, your sample is you and the women who
- 15:36Speaker 2: are in your circle. Those women may not have the
- 15:42Speaker 2: option to have orbiters. Just saying.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Okay, Brian, no, I'm that's okay. Yeah, let's just say, well, her,
- 15:56Speaker 1: the extent of her data is my friends are like that.
- 16:01Speaker 1: That's like her data. That's her. That's the counter argument.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Here's my presentation. I have friends, many of whom are women,
- 16:10Speaker 1: and they don't agree with this. Therefore, this thing doesn't exist.
- 16:13Speaker 1: And now she's gonna probably say, I also know men
- 16:17Speaker 1: who do do this, therefore this is all me. Yeah,
- 16:20Speaker 1: but also I don't like generalizations. All right, let's keep.
- 16:23Speaker 3: Going, Hey, fuck load of men complain about women who
- 16:27Speaker 3: do this, and it just really feels like a validation
- 16:30Speaker 3: for men to hate women and to get mad at
- 16:33Speaker 3: women and to complain about women, Like if you really
- 16:37Speaker 3: are sitting there being inkave with this woman and constantly.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Hate is a strong word. I'm pretty sure men can recognize,
- 16:50Speaker 2: because they have through all of human history that women
- 16:53Speaker 2: are fickle, that they often don't know their mind, they
- 16:58Speaker 2: make stupid choices, there are strangely deeply attracted to obvious
- 17:04Speaker 2: sociopaths like and I think throughout all of human history.
- 17:09Speaker 2: In fact, if you read a lot of men's writings,
- 17:12Speaker 2: this has been a thread throughout most of human history.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I guess men were just inventing all this every generation
- 17:18Speaker 2: that had to deal with women, right, But they didn't
- 17:21Speaker 2: hate women. They still buckled down and said, I am
- 17:25Speaker 2: going to pay for the existence of this fickle creature,
- 17:29Speaker 2: and I'm going to find joy, some kind of reverence
- 17:33Speaker 2: in her, uh, her joy of life. This is what
- 17:39Speaker 2: they do. They're like, they turn these flaws. That's what
- 17:43Speaker 2: I've seen. They've turned these massive flaws in women's character,
- 17:47Speaker 2: and it seems to be women because it's not women
- 17:50Speaker 2: building bridges, it's women complaining about men getting money for
- 17:54Speaker 2: building bridges and wanting the same frickin wage. These flaws
- 17:57Speaker 2: and again also studies ten, the show these flaws in
- 18:01Speaker 2: women's character and they turn men, turn them into cute
- 18:05Speaker 2: little quirks like the manic pixie dream girl, which really
- 18:10Speaker 2: is a woman who should be shot out of a cannon.
- 18:13Speaker 2: But they're like, oh, she's so quirky. She gives my
- 18:16Speaker 2: drab life my color. It's color, all of this quirky
- 18:21Speaker 2: bullshit for women. It's color. It's the mysteries of human reproduction.
- 18:25Speaker 2: It's so beautiful in its way. Instead of being like, yeah, no,
- 18:29Speaker 2: this is just bullshit. Right, So hate is a strong word.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Men love crocodiles, Men love scorpions, men love snakes, They
- 18:44Speaker 2: love the creatures that you There probably is a man
- 18:46Speaker 2: out there who has a beloved garden, like a beloved
- 18:51Speaker 2: soil pot full of beloved worms.
- 18:53Speaker 7: Men seem to be.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Able to love everything or anything in this world. I
- 18:58Speaker 2: think there is even Ann who probably loves this woman
- 19:02Speaker 2: if you can believe it, right, and she's here saying, oh,
- 19:07Speaker 2: women have flaws, then if we recognize that, men will
- 19:11Speaker 2: hate us. No, in fact, probably men would find it
- 19:15Speaker 2: easier to love you if you recognize those flaws. Like,
- 19:20Speaker 2: it's just what I'm saying. Hate is a strong word here.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't care like I mean, her livelihood depends
- 19:30Speaker 1: on hate being a word that applies to men's feelings
- 19:33Speaker 1: towards women. So she needs it to stick. So she's
- 19:36Speaker 1: gonna make it stick. And you know what, four hundred
- 19:38Speaker 1: and fifty five thousand subscribers probably all agree. Do you
- 19:43Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, I do know what you're saying.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I do know what you're saying. I'm just explaining that
- 19:49Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like we're living in a post truth
- 19:52Speaker 1: era in that we can't like facts have to move
- 19:57Speaker 1: at the speed of women's feelings. That's where we are now,
- 20:01Speaker 1: and that's just what it is like. And it doesn't
- 20:03Speaker 1: matter if they have anything useful to say or do,
- 20:05Speaker 1: if they contribute anything, we just can't make them feel uncomfortable.
- 20:10Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if we have logic on our side.
- 20:13Speaker 1: In the moment at least because they're made uncomfortable by that.
- 20:17Speaker 1: But what will happen is over time, reality, which is
- 20:23Speaker 1: what our logic is coming from, will slam down on
- 20:26Speaker 1: them and they will have to either come to terms
- 20:30Speaker 1: with the fact that they've been wrong about reality and
- 20:33Speaker 1: that their feelings couldn't actually change it, or they will
- 20:39Speaker 1: just die alone and childless and sad, and a lot
- 20:43Speaker 1: of them. I bet, I bet this girl's on SSR eyes.
- 20:45Speaker 1: I'm just guessing. I don't like to judge a book
- 20:47Speaker 1: by its cover, but she doesn't look like she's an
- 20:50Speaker 1: interesting person. Because if you have to like look like
- 20:53Speaker 1: a fucking you know, a bag of M and m's exploded,
- 20:57Speaker 1: then you're probably not interesting. Like you probably can't hold
- 21:00Speaker 1: up regular conversation with people, which is why the extent
- 21:03Speaker 1: of her content is yikes, yike's men. That's her whole.
- 21:07Speaker 1: That's four hundred and fifty five thousand subscribers or forty
- 21:12Speaker 1: five I'm sorry, I don't mean to over overestimate, but anyway,
- 21:15Speaker 1: it's pretty.
- 21:16Speaker 2: It's pretty, but there's an ecosystem for this. That's the thing.
- 21:19Speaker 2: There's women confirming women confirmation, and the funny thing is
- 21:23Speaker 2: is that again, hate is a really strong word. I
- 21:27Speaker 2: think men are frustrated, they're concerned. They're probably internalizing a
- 21:34Speaker 2: hell of a lot more than what she gives them
- 21:36Speaker 2: credit for, considering that the vast majority of men just
- 21:40Speaker 2: off themselves when the contradictions I'll do I you know,
- 21:44Speaker 2: and when when women become so difficult to deal with,
- 21:47Speaker 2: it doesn't it feels like you have no hope?
- 21:49Speaker 1: Right?
- 21:50Speaker 2: This is this is this is this is the thing
- 21:52Speaker 2: like it's mild. Irritation is not hatred. Identifying things that
- 21:58Speaker 2: you're dealing with in the dating sphere as a man
- 22:00Speaker 2: is not hatred.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Right.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Hatred is more along the lines of promoting a narrative
- 22:06Speaker 2: in which one half of the sex, deliberately and with malice,
- 22:10Speaker 2: goes out to oppress the other half. That's a lot
- 22:12Speaker 2: more along the lines of hatred, because you see it
- 22:15Speaker 2: in all kinds of propaganda throughout history directed at enemy groups.
- 22:21Speaker 2: That's what you say when you want to not dehumanize,
- 22:25Speaker 2: but render criminal the perceptions, the criminal perceptions of a group.
- 22:30Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff you do. That's true hatred.
- 22:34Speaker 2: Just saying women are frustrating to date because of these
- 22:37Speaker 2: kinds of habits. At its core, it still is about
- 22:44Speaker 2: wanting to be around women. Right, It's like what you
- 22:48Speaker 2: said once, Brian, or maybe it was Mike or doctor Randirikam.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Why is it?
- 22:54Speaker 2: Why do why would Muslim men hate women if their
- 22:57Speaker 2: reward is seventy two of them? Yeah? Right, you know
- 23:01Speaker 2: it's like and part of the reason why they have
- 23:05Speaker 2: these narratives of this nonsense about hatred is because they
- 23:10Speaker 2: tie hatred to men's sexual interest in women, which they
- 23:14Speaker 2: call objectification, which is actually ablest and absurd. Objectification is
- 23:20Speaker 2: people who object truly objectify others, who see other people
- 23:25Speaker 2: as objects, have a mental illness or a mental disability
- 23:29Speaker 2: that is debilitating. And feminists are saying that men have
- 23:34Speaker 2: this mental disability that's debilitating because they have sexual desire
- 23:39Speaker 2: for women, and it's absurd and that but that's where
- 23:43Speaker 2: they root their men hate women because they're saying that
- 23:47Speaker 2: men's sexual desire for women is hatred of women. So
- 23:51Speaker 2: objectification comes down to so the fact that men are
- 23:55Speaker 2: interested in women, the fact that men want to be
- 23:58Speaker 2: around women, regardless of how infuriating women are, the fact
- 24:01Speaker 2: that men share information how to attract at a woman
- 24:06Speaker 2: and how to you know the proper f Karen, feeding
- 24:09Speaker 2: of your crocodile is misogyny, and it's misogyny because this
- 24:13Speaker 2: whole narrative about objectification.
- 24:16Speaker 1: All right, all right, so this is the next time
- 24:21Speaker 1: code in this video.
- 24:22Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to tell you another secret about women
- 24:24Speaker 4: that I'm going to get into a lot of trouble
- 24:26Speaker 4: telling you. And this is something that they will take
- 24:28Speaker 4: to the grave. I swear don't even bother asking her,
- 24:31Speaker 4: because it does not matter how good of a woman
- 24:33Speaker 4: she is, she will not admit this. When a woman
- 24:35Speaker 4: is single and she has options, there is only ever
- 24:38Speaker 4: one man that she wants the most at one time,
- 24:41Speaker 4: and she is not confused about this, no matter what
- 24:44Speaker 4: she tells you, sadly. And what's really messed up is
- 24:46Speaker 4: that this is not always the man that she is
- 24:48Speaker 4: currently with. Even if she's not dating anyone in particular,
- 24:52Speaker 4: if she's just in the talking stages with a few
- 24:54Speaker 4: different guys, she will typically not be giving her attention
- 24:57Speaker 4: to the man that she likes the most. And this
- 25:00Speaker 4: is what confuses men because it might feel like she's
- 25:03Speaker 4: giving you a lot of attention and energy, but she
- 25:06Speaker 4: seems to always have too much going on or she's
- 25:09Speaker 4: just not in the right place for a relationship, or
- 25:11Speaker 4: she'll say that I'm just not ready for a relationship.
- 25:14Speaker 2: She will only.
- 25:15Speaker 4: Say that to the man that is not her number
- 25:17Speaker 4: one And the reason why she's not giving most of
- 25:19Speaker 4: her attention to the guy that's number one is because
- 25:22Speaker 4: she wants that number one guy to chase her.
- 25:24Speaker 2: But if that man is not chasing.
- 25:26Speaker 4: Her and she still likes him the most, she will
- 25:28Speaker 4: cope with it by getting attention from guy number two, three, four.
- 25:32Speaker 4: Women will essentially use these men for their time and
- 25:35Speaker 4: attention in order to feel good about herself until that
- 25:38Speaker 4: number one guy gives her what she wants or she
- 25:40Speaker 4: finds a new number one guy.
- 25:42Speaker 1: I I mean that makes perfect sense. Like if you're
- 25:48Speaker 1: accustomed to being surrounded by orbiters, then they're all bringing
- 25:54Speaker 1: you something and one thing. I remember. It reminds me
- 25:56Speaker 1: of this A while ago. I saw this on Twitter,
- 26:02Speaker 1: and there was a woman who was ranting about men
- 26:07Speaker 1: like she was angry with them, but she she was
- 26:09Speaker 1: angry with them because they were basically checking out and
- 26:14Speaker 1: she was basically like, you know, I want men to
- 26:17Speaker 1: like see me and and as as a person and
- 26:21Speaker 1: you know whatever, like she wants to feel like men
- 26:25Speaker 1: love her and they desire her and they want to
- 26:27Speaker 1: keep her safe, even if she doesn't want them back,
- 26:29Speaker 1: even if she has no interest in reciprocating that. And
- 26:33Speaker 1: I think it just shows like maybe she's just speculating.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Maybe this is the fundamental difference between the way men
- 26:41Speaker 1: view women and the way women view men, and it's
- 26:44Speaker 1: something that is not talked about. Like Emily King says,
- 26:48Speaker 1: I don't know how true this is, but like it
- 26:50Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It could be a useful bit of information.
- 26:53Speaker 1: But before I let the uh the skittle explosion answer,
- 26:58Speaker 1: I want to know if Elson wants to say anything
- 27:01Speaker 1: about Emily's take.
- 27:06Speaker 2: So I'm a little no. I was listening. I was.
- 27:10Speaker 2: I listened to the whole thing. I promise you. It's
- 27:13Speaker 2: just that I'm a little distracted because voidcat destroyed my
- 27:17Speaker 2: my camera setup and I don't want to go on
- 27:19Speaker 2: the wobbly cam, so I'm trying to fix it all
- 27:21Speaker 2: But all right, yes, in a seller's market like this
- 27:30Speaker 2: with an artificial perception of an artificial inflation of buyers,
- 27:36Speaker 2: because really, uh, the lack of relationship formation suggests that
- 27:40Speaker 2: it isn't a true buyer it isn't a true seller's market.
- 27:43Speaker 2: There's just an artificial impression and like a larger amount
- 27:47Speaker 2: of buyers, So sellers aren't actually selling when they could,
- 27:50Speaker 2: so they just stay on the market and then they
- 27:52Speaker 2: age out of the market, and that's really what happens
- 27:55Speaker 2: to reduce the supply. So okay, so it'd be like
- 27:59Speaker 2: if if you were you had a real estate market,
- 28:04Speaker 2: but houses after about twenty years are no longer. They don't.
- 28:09Speaker 2: They're a depreciating asset. Nobody's interested in them. So people
- 28:13Speaker 2: go on to the market with their house and they think, okay,
- 28:16Speaker 2: well I got tons and tons of buyers. But for
- 28:19Speaker 2: the most part, they're they're putting in bids on all
- 28:22Speaker 2: kinds of houses, and they actually never sell their house,
- 28:27Speaker 2: but so it feels like a seller's market because they're
- 28:29Speaker 2: getting all kinds of bids and then they don't settle
- 28:31Speaker 2: with anyone, and then their house ages out of the
- 28:34Speaker 2: market and they've got no leverage, and that's what's actually
- 28:38Speaker 2: reducing supply. So what I'm getting at is that the
- 28:42Speaker 2: sales are not what's reducing supply. The depreciating asset is
- 28:46Speaker 2: reducing supply. Okay, that's a little bit too complicated, But
- 28:51Speaker 2: my ultimate point is that women are behaving consistent with
- 28:56Speaker 2: sellers who think that they're in a buyer's market when
- 28:59Speaker 2: it's not a buyer's market. It is, sorry, a seller's market.
- 29:03Speaker 2: They are consistent with sellers who act like they're in
- 29:07Speaker 2: a seller's market when it isn't exactly a seller's market.
- 29:10Speaker 2: There's just the impression of a seller's market. So they
- 29:13Speaker 2: do stuff like this. So I mean, everybody's criticisms of
- 29:16Speaker 2: this situation is valid. Actually, women's criticisms are valid. It's
- 29:20Speaker 2: just their criticisms of the top five percent, their criticisms
- 29:23Speaker 2: of the loss of interest when they get older. Yep,
- 29:26Speaker 2: they're criticisms of the lack of so called good men.
- 29:32Speaker 2: And men's criticisms are also valid because the entire system
- 29:36Speaker 2: is broken down. And I would say that men's criticisms
- 29:41Speaker 2: are probably a little more objective and a little less
- 29:45Speaker 2: Oh my friend group, Oh the men that I'm interested in,
- 29:47Speaker 2: and this is my entire population that I'm drawing my
- 29:52Speaker 2: data from. I think that women are more prone to that,
- 29:54Speaker 2: whereas men are more interested in the systemic kind of
- 29:58Speaker 2: look at it. So I think that. But but regardless
- 30:02Speaker 2: setting aside blaming men or women, although as I always say,
- 30:07Speaker 2: I blame women and nobody can stop me. Setting aside
- 30:11Speaker 2: that the system is screwed, like it's just it's just
- 30:16Speaker 2: a mess, and trying to trying to lay blame without
- 30:25Speaker 2: looking at every part of this, trying to find blame
- 30:27Speaker 2: before you look at every part of the system to
- 30:29Speaker 2: create an understanding of what went wrong is is not
- 30:34Speaker 2: a good way to go. And she's laying blame. I
- 30:38Speaker 2: think that advocate is just making an observation, and she's
- 30:43Speaker 2: making she's laying blame at a woman who's just making
- 30:46Speaker 2: an observation, like advocates criticisms a women in the dating market.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Could oh sorry, Emily Emily Kings.
- 30:58Speaker 2: I think advocate also criticized and stuff like that, though
- 31:01Speaker 2: Emily King's criticism of women's behavior in the dating market
- 31:07Speaker 2: can exist alongside women's own criticisms of what's going on
- 31:12Speaker 2: in the dating market. Right, So, she's not necessarily laying
- 31:17Speaker 2: blame except for women's part in it, or she's not
- 31:22Speaker 2: laying overall blame, is what I'm saying, except for women's
- 31:25Speaker 2: part in it. And right here the skittle person is
- 31:30Speaker 2: saying that no, you can't do that. You can't do that.
- 31:34Speaker 2: So she's essentially doing what feminists have done with almost
- 31:37Speaker 2: every issue that faced men and women. She's denying women's
- 31:42Speaker 2: half of the problem. And even though like I'm here,
- 31:46Speaker 2: at least here Emily hasn't said that, oh, it's all women,
- 31:49Speaker 2: all of dating problems can be put at women's feet,
- 31:52Speaker 2: this woman is already engaged with, well, don't blame women,
- 31:56Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, mm hm. And she's she's
- 32:00Speaker 2: pre selecting the information we can look at to fix
- 32:04Speaker 2: the problem, which ensures failure. She's once again preloading failure
- 32:09Speaker 2: and everybody's going to suffer from that. And she's huge, Yeah,
- 32:17Speaker 2: to preload failure.
- 32:20Speaker 1: They want they want to affirm their midness, and they
- 32:25Speaker 1: get other women to do it for them so that
- 32:27Speaker 1: they don't feel alone, and therefore they don't feel like
- 32:30Speaker 1: see like, if if a woman can blame something abstract
- 32:35Speaker 1: that is outside of their control for their life circumstances,
- 32:40Speaker 1: then they don't have to actually do anything to improve.
- 32:43Speaker 1: They can just do what women have done all through history,
- 32:46Speaker 1: which is essentially, uh, you know, appeal to men to
- 32:49Speaker 1: do something for them. And that is what the what
- 32:53Speaker 1: this woman the queer Kui and all these other online
- 32:56Speaker 1: feminists do is they affirm women's insecurities and their situation
- 33:02Speaker 1: like their their victimhood status. And then it it because
- 33:06Speaker 1: there are other women that are saying, oh yes, I
- 33:08Speaker 1: have also been through this, or oh yes, I agree
- 33:10Speaker 1: with you, oh oh yes I've had this life experience,
- 33:13Speaker 1: then women can say, oh well, if enough women are
- 33:16Speaker 1: also experiencing this, this isn't something that I have done
- 33:19Speaker 1: to myself with my life choices. This is something that
- 33:23Speaker 1: the system patriarchy has done to me, and therefore I
- 33:27Speaker 1: can blame patriarchy and ask that the patriarchy solve my
- 33:32Speaker 1: problem while also blaming them for my problems. So it's
- 33:36Speaker 1: it's just it's just that, it's it's it's women who
- 33:41Speaker 1: haven't figured out that they actually can and do control
- 33:45Speaker 1: their fate, that like things are, but that would require
- 33:49Speaker 1: them to get off their ass and do something. So anyway,
- 33:52Speaker 1: let's hear her. Let's hear her.
- 33:54Speaker 3: Her reply really going to need you to stop projecting
- 34:01Speaker 3: like this is incredibly similar to the one before, And
- 34:03Speaker 3: it's just like astounding to me because either you are
- 34:08Speaker 3: projecting massively or you were learning all of your information
- 34:13Speaker 3: about women from men who are just like actively trying
- 34:18Speaker 3: to hate women, like you are learning your information about
- 34:21Speaker 3: women and what women want and how women date through
- 34:24Speaker 3: like the Fresh and Fit podcast.
- 34:25Speaker 2: Okay, you're so, she's learning her information from the one
- 34:31Speaker 2: group of people who has the most experienced with dating women.
- 34:35Speaker 2: She's learning her information about dating women from the one
- 34:39Speaker 2: group of people who has the most experience in dating women.
- 34:46Speaker 1: Except that that's probably that's definitely not where Emily King
- 34:50Speaker 1: gets her information. In fact, Emily King I don't know
- 34:54Speaker 1: about the Dadvocate, but I know that Emily King does
- 34:58Speaker 1: not is not a fan of of these. So the
- 35:01Speaker 1: quote unquote Manisphere, red pill, Fresh and Fit, Andrew Tate
- 35:05Speaker 1: types at all. So this But but here's the thing
- 35:09Speaker 1: that's interesting about this. I think it's funny is that
- 35:12Speaker 1: a lot of people in this, in this part of
- 35:15Speaker 1: the Internet, they're all trying to like whoever it is,
- 35:19Speaker 1: Paul Elam, Tom Golden, Tim Goldich, the Advocate, Roma, Emily King, us,
- 35:26Speaker 1: you know whoever, right, rollo. They're all they're all pitching
- 35:30Speaker 1: in Andrew Tate, Fresh and Fit, They're all they all
- 35:33Speaker 1: have something to say about this. They're all sort of
- 35:35Speaker 1: like talking around gender dynamics, which I think is good
- 35:38Speaker 1: because I think it's the most crucial conversation to have.
- 35:42Speaker 1: All the other stuff doesn't matter if you can't figure
- 35:44Speaker 1: out what's going on with men and women, your government, well,
- 35:47Speaker 1: whoever's in office irrelevant, because like it's all gonna go away.
- 35:51Speaker 1: So if you don't address that, all the other shit
- 35:54Speaker 1: that you're concerned with, this foreign war, that the economy
- 35:57Speaker 1: over here, none of that matters. If men and women
- 36:00Speaker 1: and are not getting together making babies period, Like that's
- 36:02Speaker 1: that is a non starter, okay. But everyone who's talking
- 36:06Speaker 1: about these things, there's a lot of them that are
- 36:09Speaker 1: trying to say, well, I don't associate with those people,
- 36:11Speaker 1: and I don't like them for that reason, and I
- 36:13Speaker 1: think that those people are terrible, These are misogynists, et cetera.
- 36:17Speaker 1: When in the end, at the end of the day,
- 36:19Speaker 1: the people were up against don't care. They all put
- 36:21Speaker 1: us in the same boat, and we might as well
- 36:23Speaker 1: stop trying to like separate ourselves from other people based
- 36:27Speaker 1: on what we heard from these people about them. Like
- 36:31Speaker 1: these people are the ones that say Andrew Tate really
- 36:34Speaker 1: hates women, even though like he literally like you know,
- 36:37Speaker 1: he built his brand on his success with women, which
- 36:41Speaker 1: I don't think you should hate them to be successful
- 36:43Speaker 1: with them, or whoever it is. It could be fresh
- 36:45Speaker 1: and fitted, could be even abba and preach like it
- 36:49Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Right, These people will say, well, they all
- 36:52Speaker 1: hate women, or this person hates women, that's why they
- 36:54Speaker 1: name drop. This is the read. This is the extent
- 36:56Speaker 1: of her argument. Oh, these people have done this thing,
- 36:59Speaker 1: and you, who are just like them, even if you
- 37:02Speaker 1: on your own channel, has you know, for whatever reason,
- 37:06Speaker 1: condemn them or whatever, it doesn't matter, and no one's
- 37:09Speaker 1: gonna look into it, and no one's gonna care what
- 37:12Speaker 1: you've said because you are on the wrong side of
- 37:15Speaker 1: the issue fundamentally, which is you're on the side of
- 37:18Speaker 1: men in some capacity. Be on the side of men
- 37:21Speaker 1: in any capacity puts you in the same boat as
- 37:25Speaker 1: whoever you can imagine the worst actors are of that
- 37:28Speaker 1: particular thing. So there is no point in getting into
- 37:33Speaker 1: this like weird, like you know, subdividing like tribalism, and
- 37:37Speaker 1: you might as well just ignore it and carry on.
- 37:39Speaker 1: If if somebody comes to me and says, oh, you're
- 37:42Speaker 1: like you know so, and so I'm gonna be like,
- 37:44Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. I don't even know what
- 37:45Speaker 1: you mean. This is what I believe. Respond to that,
- 37:48Speaker 1: don't put me in a box. Respond to this, and
- 37:51Speaker 1: that's what you have to do, you know. So I
- 37:54Speaker 1: mean I could be nuanced when dealing with feminists. I mean,
- 37:56Speaker 1: I know that, you know, there's a difference between JK. Rowling,
- 38:00Speaker 1: Julie Bindle and Judith Butler and Anita Sarkisian and Pel Hooks.
- 38:06Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, they all hate men,
- 38:09Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter. Like they all have the same
- 38:12Speaker 1: root belief system and that's the only thing I have
- 38:14Speaker 1: to go after. Is that. That way, if they say, well,
- 38:17Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not a third wave feminist, I'm
- 38:19Speaker 1: a first wave, Well I don't give a shit. You
- 38:22Speaker 1: blame patriarchy for your problems, you're in the same camp.
- 38:25Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because you won't solve the problem. In fact,
- 38:28Speaker 1: you're the reason for the problem that I'm trying to address,
- 38:31Speaker 1: which is essentially the growing gap between men and women.
- 38:36Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, like she's gonna name drop that's
- 38:38Speaker 1: the again. This shows the extent of her intellectual rigor,
- 38:44Speaker 1: which is Yike's. And you're just like, you know, insert
- 38:49Speaker 1: right wing head or you know, current cancerous human being
- 38:55Speaker 1: that don't I want to associate with you. It doesn't matter.
- 38:57Speaker 1: It could be you're just like JD. Van, You're just
- 39:00Speaker 1: like Mike Pence, You're just like Nick Foyentz, You're just
- 39:04Speaker 1: like It doesn't matter, guys like it's it's time for
- 39:07Speaker 1: us to stop listening to their allegations of bigotry because
- 39:12Speaker 1: it's all meaningless. It's intended to control you as and
- 39:15Speaker 1: if you like, accept it in any capacity. If you
- 39:18Speaker 1: try to refute it in any capacity, you lose because
- 39:22Speaker 1: that means you're in the the defensive for no reason.
- 39:25Speaker 1: When you know what you believe is correct. It doesn't matter.
- 39:28Speaker 2: So anyway, Well, it's an idea, it's a it's a
- 39:31Speaker 2: perspective that allows nothing outside of itself. Right this, this
- 39:36Speaker 2: is what this perspective is. This, this feminist perspective and
- 39:39Speaker 2: this occult feminist perspective, it allows nothing outside of itself.
- 39:43Speaker 2: It's why fetal Bogan it used to be one of
- 39:45Speaker 2: the old the ogs. Ye say that the first thing
- 39:49Speaker 2: you need to do is simply say I am non feminist,
- 39:53Speaker 2: because you force this this viewpoint to recognize something outside
- 39:57Speaker 2: of itself, and that's that's the very first step. And honestly,
- 40:03Speaker 2: it's it's bigger than just condemning men at this point,
- 40:07Speaker 2: because they also condemn obviously, because that's what the topic
- 40:13Speaker 2: of this video is. They condemn women who accept that
- 40:17Speaker 2: men have a perspective worth listening to. So it's it's
- 40:23Speaker 2: it is. It is the idea that women have nothing
- 40:27Speaker 2: to learn from men, nothing at all, and that men
- 40:30Speaker 2: have nothing legitimate to bring the world like this, this
- 40:35Speaker 2: half of the human race that evolved along alongside women
- 40:39Speaker 2: has nothing legitimate about it. They are illegitimate. And how
- 40:46Speaker 2: else can you how else can you interpret the allegation
- 40:49Speaker 2: that men have oppressed women throughout since there were men,
- 40:53Speaker 2: basically since there was human society, which is basically all
- 40:57Speaker 2: of the human history, because human history, we humans do society,
- 41:01Speaker 2: that's this is what we do. We get together and
- 41:04Speaker 2: we cooperate to make things so throughout all the history
- 41:08Speaker 2: of human cooperation and incidentally, all of the feminist stuff
- 41:11Speaker 2: about like neolithic tribes in in in in Europe prior
- 41:18Speaker 2: to like the step nomads coming in and being all
- 41:21Speaker 2: violent and stuff, that's all bullshit. They're now finding that
- 41:25Speaker 2: those supposed peaceful Neolithic tribes were incredibly violent themselves and
- 41:31Speaker 2: probably could have resisted those those warlike step nomads just
- 41:36Speaker 2: through their own militaristic nature, But they couldn't resist the
- 41:43Speaker 2: step nomads cows, and the fact that they would herd
- 41:47Speaker 2: these gigantic masses of bio weapons and then just just
- 41:53Speaker 2: basically annihilate the the the the agregrian like neolithic farmers
- 42:00Speaker 2: in Europe. So it wasn't. No, there's no point in history.
- 42:05Speaker 2: The further back you go, the more violent we are.
- 42:08Speaker 2: So there was no peaceful matriarchy at any point in history,
- 42:11Speaker 2: and if there was, it wasn't peaceful, right, So, like
- 42:15Speaker 2: there's no ideal to look back for. So essentially what
- 42:19Speaker 2: they're saying is that men have been a net negative
- 42:23Speaker 2: for the human race since men involved. What an astounding proposition, huh, folks.
- 42:32Speaker 2: And now now the very idea of taking an identity
- 42:35Speaker 2: from being male should be done away with, because that's
- 42:42Speaker 2: really what they mean. That's the real dividing line. I
- 42:45Speaker 2: don't know if you've noticed. It's between people men and
- 42:48Speaker 2: women who believe that male is a legitimate identity, right,
- 42:58Speaker 2: that they have seventy two legitimate identities, But mail isn't
- 43:03Speaker 2: one of them.
- 43:05Speaker 1: Well, the jury's out and how many genders there are,
- 43:08Speaker 1: but we know that man is not one of them.
- 43:11Speaker 1: That's the only thing we know is not one of them.
- 43:14Speaker 1: We just have it. We don't, we don't have the
- 43:16Speaker 1: data hasn't come back yet. I'm still waiting on Kintanji
- 43:18Speaker 1: Brown chants Jackson's ruling on the number of genders. But
- 43:22Speaker 1: we know that men is not one of them.
- 43:24Speaker 3: But anyway, fucking fifteen years old, like I am exhausted
- 43:31Speaker 3: listening to this shit, Like you, I get so confused
- 43:35Speaker 3: because I do see tiktoks and contents stuff like this sometimes,
- 43:38Speaker 3: like using from women and from people.
- 43:42Speaker 2: It's confusing to listen to somebody who has an identity
- 43:46Speaker 2: not your own. This is why these people cannot write
- 43:48Speaker 2: worth the damn.
- 43:50Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit again. I want to
- 43:53Speaker 1: hear this.
- 43:53Speaker 3: Women and from people talking about like games and playing
- 43:56Speaker 3: mind games and people.
- 43:57Speaker 1: So like women and people. I'm just saying, like the
- 44:01Speaker 1: language is right there right, there are no men like
- 44:04Speaker 1: the men, and she's terrified of men apparently is terrified
- 44:08Speaker 1: of men.
- 44:08Speaker 3: But anyway, keeping people on the hook and whatever, Like
- 44:11Speaker 3: I don't think it's a majority of people. But like,
- 44:13Speaker 3: whenever I see shit like this, I do have to
- 44:15Speaker 3: sit here and I'm like, is this what is this?
- 44:17Speaker 3: What straight people are doing? This? Is this how you're doing.
- 44:22Speaker 1: The Oh my god, you guys with your kids and
- 44:27Speaker 1: families and stuff. Okay, wait, go ahead, Yes.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Well then why was she commenting on men dating women?
- 44:37Speaker 2: She isn't even a woman who dates men, apparently, unless
- 44:40Speaker 2: she's by But whatever that means.
- 44:45Speaker 1: You know what it means when you say you're queer
- 44:47Speaker 1: these days, it means nothing. Don't put me in a box.
- 44:51Speaker 1: I am whatever I need to be in the moment. Yes, yeah, exactly,
- 44:57Speaker 1: that's what it means. Yeah, it's an identity without an essence.
- 45:00Speaker 1: It is not essential for me to tell you what
- 45:02Speaker 1: I am about. That's what it means.
- 45:05Speaker 2: So I can put you in a box, so I
- 45:08Speaker 2: can be the negative space that constrains you to the
- 45:12Speaker 2: smallest possible position.
- 45:13Speaker 1: She wants to put you in a box and then
- 45:16Speaker 1: put that box at another box and mail that box
- 45:18Speaker 1: to herself and then smash it with a hammer.
- 45:26Speaker 2: I get it. But but but what I'm getting at
- 45:28Speaker 2: is' she said, with great self confidence that she knew
- 45:38Speaker 2: what was going on with men dating women, and now
- 45:41Speaker 2: apparently it's a high probability she isn't even a woman
- 45:45Speaker 2: who dates men. So what is her friend group? Presumably
- 45:51Speaker 2: other ideologically motivated women of a lesbian persuasion, anyone.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Who could tolerate those plushies in that haircut, which is
- 46:03Speaker 1: probably a pretty narrow, narrow spectrum.
- 46:07Speaker 2: Well, I would imagine. I don't know how many old
- 46:09Speaker 2: school lesbians are left, but I'm pretty sure they would
- 46:13Speaker 2: look at that and say nope and just move on.
- 46:17Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, that is a red flag for late
- 46:22Speaker 2: night beatings. Okay, but yeah, this is so. But my
- 46:27Speaker 2: overall point is she is opining about something which she
- 46:31Speaker 2: doesn't even have secondhand knowledge of. I mean, at least
- 46:35Speaker 2: Emily probably has experienced dating men. I don't know if she.
- 46:42Speaker 2: The thing is that, if she's a reasonable woman, maybe
- 46:45Speaker 2: she did have more men that she was interested in
- 46:50Speaker 2: at a time, but she chose a man who was
- 46:53Speaker 2: within her reach and then he chose her, and that
- 46:58Speaker 2: was it, right. I mean, if two people are dating
- 47:02Speaker 2: casually and then they're dating more than one person at
- 47:05Speaker 2: a time, you know what, you just it's just something
- 47:09Speaker 2: that sort of has to be at this point, right,
- 47:12Speaker 2: But if she's reasonable and sounds like she is because
- 47:14Speaker 2: she's married, then she found her guy, she locked her
- 47:18Speaker 2: locked him in, and then moved on, So that doesn't
- 47:21Speaker 2: necessarily mean that she's projecting. In fact, the fact that
- 47:25Speaker 2: she managed to lock in a guy would suggest she isn't.
- 47:29Speaker 2: That she's actually remarking on the behavior of women that
- 47:32Speaker 2: she's observed, because this kind of behavior, it is horrible
- 47:36Speaker 2: for men to be on the receiving side, but the
- 47:41Speaker 2: end of the day, women are alone too. This kind
- 47:45Speaker 2: of behavior leaves them alone too. All right, let's keep going.
- 47:49Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Like I'm so exhausted just watching these
- 47:54Speaker 3: people talk about mind games because like, we're adults, right
- 48:00Speaker 3: like this.
- 48:01Speaker 1: You're like what, let's look at her for a moment.
- 48:04Speaker 1: She just said, we're adults.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Okay, all right, your fucking thirties grow up please, oh
- 48:14Speaker 3: my god, Like this is.
- 48:15Speaker 1: The behavior said the woman with rainbow hair, grow up?
- 48:21Speaker 2: Okay wait wait.
- 48:22Speaker 1: And plus she's okay and balloon animal earrings. I'm sorry,
- 48:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna judge. It's ridiculous, like you
- 48:32Speaker 1: need to grow up, and she's she's got rainbow eyeshadow, like,
- 48:39Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's you must have. Like, I don't know
- 48:43Speaker 1: what your job is. I guess it's to make videos
- 48:45Speaker 1: for the government. Yeah, probably, yeah, no, probably, yeah, four
- 48:50Speaker 1: hundred subscribers.
- 48:53Speaker 2: The ecosystem and then this content just like the honest
- 48:57Speaker 2: to god truth is, this is what I think is happening.
- 48:59Speaker 2: The government is part is astroturfing and ecosystem, and then
- 49:02Speaker 2: any new random content that goes along the same line
- 49:05Speaker 2: just blows up because it has things to be to
- 49:08Speaker 2: be suggested beside. But going back to her maturity, you
- 49:15Speaker 2: know that people can talk about the behavior of toddlers
- 49:19Speaker 2: and how to deal with the behavior of toddlers without
- 49:22Speaker 2: being toddlers, right, Like this is some weird cargo cult thinking.
- 49:30Speaker 2: She's like, this woman is talking about the bad behavior
- 49:32Speaker 2: of women, and oh, that's mind games. Is it's childish.
- 49:35Speaker 2: She's talking about childish behavior and women. She must be
- 49:38Speaker 2: a child. It's like, no, it doesn't really work that way.
- 49:41Speaker 2: That's not really there's no transitive property happening here, lady.
- 49:45Speaker 2: You're just forcing it. I guess that's part of the
- 49:48Speaker 2: vagueness that you want to maintain to box everyone else.
- 49:51Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's listen to some more of
- 49:54Speaker 1: this a little bit, like a few more second.
- 49:57Speaker 2: We're just talking.
- 49:57Speaker 3: I want from sixteen year old. It's in the group chat,
- 50:01Speaker 3: you know. You know, it's like I'm talking to these
- 50:04Speaker 3: guys and I'm trying to get attention from this other
- 50:06Speaker 3: guy by like playing hot toget like that is what
- 50:08Speaker 3: teenagers do. That is the energy of a high school.
- 50:12Speaker 3: You're an adult.
- 50:13Speaker 1: Oh so congratulations, you've just identified that this is the
- 50:16Speaker 1: way women act today. Yes, and you can find like
- 50:19Speaker 1: videos of grown ass women on TikTok literally saying I
- 50:23Speaker 1: did all of the I played all these games, and
- 50:25Speaker 1: for some reason, I'm not getting a payoff. So yeah,
- 50:28Speaker 1: maybe you should tell women to act like adults. That's
- 50:31Speaker 1: a good idea. I applaud you, queer Kiwi. You're onto something.
- 50:35Speaker 1: Although no, that means actually holding women accountable. Never mind,
- 50:39Speaker 1: and that's.
- 50:39Speaker 2: Why they don't act like adults. Because you have a
- 50:42Speaker 2: problem with this woman calling out women's behavior. Why because
- 50:47Speaker 2: you don't think women should be held to a standard
- 50:49Speaker 2: of behavior. Because in order to be held to a
- 50:51Speaker 2: standard of behavior, they have to be criticized, and that's misogyny.
- 50:55Speaker 2: So because of that, you are constructing the very lens
- 51:00Speaker 2: that makes that does not produce mature women because women
- 51:06Speaker 2: are only going to grow up to the standard they're
- 51:09Speaker 2: held to.
- 51:10Speaker 1: That's it, okay, all right, next time code, So since
- 51:18Speaker 1: seventeen thirty, right here.
- 51:23Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to get rid of wobbly cam.
- 51:25Speaker 1: So, all right, can we talk.
- 51:28Speaker 4: About the man that works hard every day, fixes everything
- 51:31Speaker 4: around the house, and is involved with his children's lives.
- 51:34Speaker 4: And yet he's belittled, told he doesn't do enough, told
- 51:38Speaker 4: he doesn't earn enough money, and isn't even touched. That
- 51:41Speaker 4: man keeps pushing forward, He keeps going to work every
- 51:44Speaker 4: single day, he keeps fixing things around the house, and
- 51:47Speaker 4: he continues to play with his children. That man just
- 51:49Speaker 4: keeps on giving, and all he wants is a little
- 51:52Speaker 4: bit of respect and appreciation.
- 51:54Speaker 3: So that man does the bare minimum and what is
- 51:59Speaker 3: expected of him, Like he's literally doing what is required
- 52:04Speaker 3: of it, helping out around the house, he's looking after
- 52:06Speaker 3: his kids, and he's going to work. I'm going to
- 52:09Speaker 3: assume that the woman in that relationship is also doing
- 52:14Speaker 3: those things. Does she get praise and gratitude from her husband?
- 52:19Speaker 3: Or is it only expect to go one way. This
- 52:21Speaker 3: man needs to be thanked. He needs to be given gratitude.
- 52:24Speaker 3: He needs to be given like he needs.
- 52:26Speaker 2: To be The context is he isn't being given any gratitude.
- 52:31Speaker 2: He isn't getting any recognition for what he does because
- 52:34Speaker 2: it's the bare minimum. And yet I'm pretty sure that
- 52:38Speaker 2: if a woman was doing the same amount and wasn't
- 52:41Speaker 2: getting praised for it, you would say it's like unrecognized labor.
- 52:46Speaker 2: Probably unrecognized labor that should be subsidized by taxpayers. I
- 52:51Speaker 2: imusional labor.
- 52:56Speaker 1: Yeah, but of course, you know, feminists, they want to
- 53:01Speaker 1: make up new holidays just to like, you know, recognize
- 53:04Speaker 1: women's hard work. Like women get Mother's Day, they get
- 53:08Speaker 1: Father's Day, they get a single Mother's Day. I think
- 53:12Speaker 1: is coming out like they're gonna be dropping that. I
- 53:14Speaker 1: think it's in beta right now. They're catching up to
- 53:18Speaker 1: the number of trans visibility holidays that are showing up,
- 53:22Speaker 1: which also women get to just you know have so Yeah,
- 53:28Speaker 1: but no, I mean a man who busts his ass
- 53:30Speaker 1: all day and comes home to a thankless wife, well,
- 53:35Speaker 1: he's not allowed to anything. He's not entitled to anything
- 53:38Speaker 1: because of he's doing the bare minimum. I guess so, Yeah,
- 53:43Speaker 1: this is like not a new concept. We've seen this.
- 53:46Speaker 1: For whatever reason, women think, these women anyway, they think
- 53:49Speaker 1: it's kryptonite to say thank you to men. I don't
- 53:52Speaker 1: know why, but it's insane to me. But uh yeah,
- 53:57Speaker 1: there's a lot of rage.
- 54:00Speaker 3: Much to be like, thank you so much for doing
- 54:01Speaker 3: all of this. I don't know what I would do
- 54:02Speaker 3: without you. You're incredible, You're amazing. I love you. Thank you,
- 54:05Speaker 3: thank you, thank you. But does he do the same
- 54:08Speaker 3: for her, thanking her over and over again?
- 54:13Speaker 2: I mean yeah, Like, okay, men are still providing the
- 54:19Speaker 2: majority of the income, and they are doing according to
- 54:25Speaker 2: the Pew research, they do four hours of work plus commute,
- 54:31Speaker 2: plus household chores plus childcares. They do four hours more
- 54:36Speaker 2: than women. What they don't do is complain about it, right,
- 54:41Speaker 2: Like that does it really kill you to just thank
- 54:46Speaker 2: the man.
- 54:46Speaker 5: In your life?
- 54:48Speaker 2: Like?
- 54:48Speaker 7: Is it really?
- 54:49Speaker 1: Is it?
- 54:49Speaker 3: Like?
- 54:50Speaker 2: Are they going to implode? Is this like throwing water
- 54:53Speaker 2: on the wicked witch of the West. It's like gratitude
- 54:56Speaker 2: is the one thing that it's the universal solvent of
- 54:59Speaker 2: the female mind. Apparently, you're right, Brian, It's like it's impossible,
- 55:05Speaker 2: it's impossible. What would happen if this woman thanked her husband,
- 55:11Speaker 2: she would obviously implode on the quantity.
- 55:13Speaker 1: She would she would spontaneously combust like every drummer for
- 55:18Speaker 1: you know, you know.
- 55:20Speaker 2: I when I was a kid, that terrified me.
- 55:24Speaker 1: Spont combustion, Yes, yeah, scary. I don't know if I
- 55:29Speaker 1: was terrified that.
- 55:29Speaker 2: It would happen to me, that I would turn into
- 55:31Speaker 2: a little green blob. My father didn't help because he's like, yeah,
- 55:35Speaker 2: that happens all the time. Oh god, yep, all right,
- 55:41Speaker 2: all right.
- 55:41Speaker 1: So that's basically those are the main three for this video.
- 55:45Speaker 1: So we'll go to the next one where she responds
- 55:48Speaker 1: to That was Emily King. Now she's gonna be responding
- 55:52Speaker 1: to the DA advocates, which is a bit different. So
- 55:59Speaker 1: let me just share this and uh, here we go.
- 56:02Speaker 8: Joey, Okay, I need to woman explain the friend zone
- 56:05Speaker 8: because I just watched a video where a woman said
- 56:07Speaker 8: that the friend zone doesn't exist, and I've seen tons
- 56:10Speaker 8: of videos from women who criticize any men who use
- 56:12Speaker 8: the term as just being misogynistic pigs who only want
- 56:15Speaker 8: one thing out of women.
- 56:17Speaker 3: Interrupting you right there to say yep, yep, friend zone
- 56:21Speaker 3: does not exist, and when men use it, that is
- 56:24Speaker 3: what they're implying. So I'm excited to hear how you're
- 56:27Speaker 3: going to explain this in any other way, because that's
- 56:31Speaker 3: literally the definition, and.
- 56:33Speaker 1: These are all right. I'm pausing it there, so shout
- 56:37Speaker 1: out to the Davocate and Emily King, by the way,
- 56:40Speaker 1: And I think I did that at the beginning, but
- 56:42Speaker 1: in case I didn't, if in case it wasn't clear,
- 56:45Speaker 1: I like these two content creators, Emily King and the Dadocate,
- 56:49Speaker 1: even if I'm sure that there are places where we
- 56:52Speaker 1: differ on certain things. But it's okay. It's okay because
- 56:55Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're all trying to
- 56:57Speaker 1: get to the same place, I think, and we just
- 57:00Speaker 1: have different paths that we're on, let's say. But anyway,
- 57:05Speaker 1: so the friend zone, there are like animals in the
- 57:11Speaker 1: animal Kingdom that FriendZone other animals and use them make
- 57:18Speaker 1: them think that you know that they're exclusive or that
- 57:23Speaker 1: they have a chance or a shot, and then they
- 57:25Speaker 1: go to somebody else. Maybe they use them as an
- 57:27Speaker 1: emotional tampon, as we like to call it. That is real.
- 57:31Speaker 1: I've seen it happen, I've had it happen to me.
- 57:35Speaker 1: We know that happens so like, and it doesn't mean
- 57:38Speaker 1: that because of course, what you know, the problem with
- 57:41Speaker 1: the existence of the friend zone is not that it exists.
- 57:44Speaker 1: The problem with it is that there, Well, it's a
- 57:49Speaker 1: couple of things. Like men that are in the friend
- 57:52Speaker 1: zone there they need the strength and courage to leave
- 57:57Speaker 1: and like stop essentially beat because that's what an orbiter is, right,
- 58:02Speaker 1: It's a guy that's hanging around a woman in the
- 58:03Speaker 1: hopes that she'll notice him, and if it doesn't, like
- 58:05Speaker 1: it's going to happen, he should move on. I think
- 58:07Speaker 1: it's it's hard for guys to do because they get
- 58:09Speaker 1: attached and maybe those women make them think that they
- 58:12Speaker 1: have a chance and so they stick around for that.
- 58:15Speaker 1: But they have to know when to cut that off.
- 58:18Speaker 1: But women have to know they have an effect on
- 58:21Speaker 1: men and that they should use that responsibly, you know,
- 58:25Speaker 1: Like I mean, I think that a lot of women
- 58:27Speaker 1: do know that they have that. But I'm just saying, like,
- 58:29Speaker 1: if you're aware of it, and you're emotionally exploiting somebody
- 58:32Speaker 1: because you want to, you know, you need to feel
- 58:35Speaker 1: comfortable once in a while, or you want to like
- 58:39Speaker 1: get something out of it. Maybe they'll use them for
- 58:42Speaker 1: free meals or for gifts or something, and they'll call
- 58:45Speaker 1: it friendship, which is what you know. A queer Kiwi
- 58:49Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, there's no such thing as
- 58:51Speaker 1: a friend zone, like men should just want to be
- 58:54Speaker 1: friends with women, And it's like, I think that. Then
- 58:56Speaker 1: we got to have a conversation on whether or not
- 58:59Speaker 1: that's possible, because I think there's a fair there's a
- 59:05Speaker 1: fair way to say that in a lot of cases
- 59:08Speaker 1: men and women, especially if they're young and sexually active
- 59:13Speaker 1: post pubescent, they're probably not seeing the opposite sex as
- 59:18Speaker 1: friendship material first, and that's just a complication that we
- 59:23Speaker 1: have to wrestle with. So maybe it's not that easy.
- 59:28Speaker 1: And uh, that's okay, So like I don't know, like anyway,
- 59:33Speaker 1: I'm sorry, alson, did you want to say anything?
- 59:36Speaker 2: You know, I think that in the interests of time
- 59:41Speaker 2: and also fixing the jigli camp, I might zip my
- 59:45Speaker 2: beak for a little bit, if that's all right.
- 59:46Speaker 1: Well, let me play the response here to this people
- 59:50Speaker 1: who just.
- 59:50Speaker 8: Don't understand what the term friend zone was supposed to me.
- 59:53Speaker 8: So again, a woman's blamed. Yes, there are some men
- 59:56Speaker 8: who honestly believe that if they insert enough friendship coins
- 59:59Speaker 8: into a woman and they are eventually entitled a girlfriend.
- 1:00:03Speaker 8: Those are called nice guys, but it is not the
- 1:00:05Speaker 8: same as being friend zoned. Getting friend zoned is when
- 1:00:08Speaker 8: a woman is not interested in a guy or attracted
- 1:00:10Speaker 8: to a guy, but she leads him on to believe
- 1:00:13Speaker 8: that she is so that she can attempt to manipulate
- 1:00:16Speaker 8: as much as she possibly can out of him. She
- 1:00:18Speaker 8: will use these men for emotional labor to validate the
- 1:00:20Speaker 8: shit out of her whenever she's dealing with an a
- 1:00:22Speaker 8: hole guy, but then disappear on him entirely when that
- 1:00:25Speaker 8: a whole guy starts talking to her again.
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: She keeps saying she's not ready to date you.
- 1:00:28Speaker 8: But then guilt trips the hell out of you if
- 1:00:30Speaker 8: you even so much to start talking to another girl.
- 1:00:32Speaker 8: Being friend zoned is when someone puts you into an
- 1:00:34Speaker 8: emotional freezer bag and stuffs you into the way back
- 1:00:37Speaker 8: of the freezer, thinking they can just take you out
- 1:00:40Speaker 8: to thaw and have no other existence anytime they need you.
- 1:00:43Speaker 8: A lot of men who have been friend zoned have
- 1:00:44Speaker 8: straight up told the girl, please tell me if you
- 1:00:47Speaker 8: don't like me, so I can move on, and they
- 1:00:49Speaker 8: get these bs answers.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Like no, I do like you, I'm just not ready
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: right now.
- 1:00:55Speaker 8: Trust me, the friend zone is very painfully real. And
- 1:00:59Speaker 8: if you have no idea what it's like, go take
- 1:01:02Speaker 8: a victory lap, enjoy good job.
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: I have many thoughts, So, for one, that's not what
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: friendship is, right. So I don't know why it would
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: be called the friend zone, because if your friendship is
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: based purely off of I will talk to you when
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: I need emotional labor and then neglect you entirely when
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: I'm in a relationship, and then come back once I
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: break up, That's not what a friendship is. That's not
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: what a friendship is. So I feel like friend zone
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: is not the correct way to describe that.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Yes, it's not a friendship because a friend would say, no,
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: I'm actually not interested in you in that way. I
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: appreciate the time we hang out, but you know, you
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: got to move on with that your romantic life, because
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not an option and genuinely mean it
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: not just try to reel them back in when you
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: when you I don't know, pook, he doesn't call you back, right,
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: That's that's the point. These women aren't being friends, they're
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: being exploiters.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and it goes both ways, right, like women get
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: friend zoned too and when when you So essentially what
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: we're discussing really is not anything to do with friendship.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: It's unrequitted love, right.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: He just spam the crap out of the special.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I put him in time out. It was just
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: it was just for attention, Alison, don't give in all
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: right or something. No, but it doesn't matter. They spam
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: the chat with a bunch of blather because they wanted
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: a reaction, and you give them a reaction, they win.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: So let's not let them win, and let's just talk
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: about the video. So we actually they weren't. They weren't
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: addressing you. They were just.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: So they weren't actually offering an argument. I mean, if
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: you are listening while you weren't offering anything the shorts chat,
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: we do respond to you, guys if you offer anything substantive,
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: So feel free to go into our chat and actually
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: make an argument for once.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: Yeah, they're only in time out for like five minutes,
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: so they'll be back talking about ditty parties as soon
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: as it's back up. If you want to respond to that.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: But anyway, so unrequited love is what we're talking about,
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: and yees. The truth is the dating as a method
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: of people pairing up is actually a relatively new phenomenon
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: when you look at the you know, most of human
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: history wasn't like that, especially at the scale that it
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: is now where people can meet online through dating apps.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: Anybody in the world can reach out to somebody else
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: in the world. So this is like a difficult thing
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: to wrestle with. But what this ends up with are
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: very unfortun but facts of life, which is that sometimes
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: a man you know, becomes interested in a woman that
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: is not interested in him, and vice versa woman becomes
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: interested in a man that's not interested in them. And
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: one of the ways they try, you know, because like
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: anybody they're interested in, like say romantically or sexually, you
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: are first going to like want to get to know, right,
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: because you don't want to just be like, I think
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: you're hot, let's make babies, right, You just you're just like, okay,
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: this they're this woman's attractive, Who are they? What kind
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: of person is this person? Right? Can I be friends
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: with them? Because like if you marry someone for their
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: looks when you're both eighty, you are still with that
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: person unless you get divorced, so you might as well
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: like make sure that they're a person you can put
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: up with until you're eighty. So that's like you got
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: to make friends with people you will like end up
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: in a relationship with, and these things can't really be separated.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: And I think think that in most cases that's what
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: men are looking for, because they want a woman that
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: is not just physically attractive, which I think it's overstated
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: when it comes to men's desires in women. I think
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: that's really overstated because it makes it sound like that's
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: almost like the only thing when men want, and it's
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: just not true. I think that the average man wants
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: a woman that is going to be fun to be around.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: They're going to have things in common, they share similar
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: you know, values. They're going that she's gonna be a
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: woman of some kind of you know, integrity and honor,
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: and that she's not like a hot mess like the end,
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: that she will bring peace into his world. Like that's
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that people want in their partners. Okay,
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: and sometimes that's just not the way it goes. But
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: you make friends in the meantime till you figure it out.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: And where the friend zone comes in is when you
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: get into this area where it's really murky and you
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: can't tell if she's into you or not, and you know,
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: and you have tried to, like, you know, get to
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: know her in that way or whatever, or she strings
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: you along, which is totally something that happens, but I
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: mean it's happened the other way. I remember this girl
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: that I knew. She was really unattractive, unfortunately, but more
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: than that she was she was she had an ugly personality,
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: like she was like a friend of a friend, like
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: I would never hang out with her, but she was
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: a friend of a friend of mine, and she was
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: really angry and butt hurt and cut off this guy
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: she knew who she had a crush on but did
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: not reciprocate. And when I and I was like, well
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: who is this guy? And he was like he was
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: like in a fucking like rock band and he was
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: obviously like a you know, like a pussy killer, like
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: a like an absolute you know, chad of a guy.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: And he was in a band and he played instruments
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: and he made good money, and she was so mad
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: that he would didn't want her, and she looked I mean,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: I don't want to be mean, but she she was
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: like something out of like mor door, like, she was
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: not a good looking woman, and she was not a
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: nice person either, and so when he rejected her, she
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: she got like, you know, uh a be in her
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: bonnet about all men and essentially blamed that experience on
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: all men. And and I think that even when men
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: have negative experiences with women, they don't usually go on
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: like this whole like, well, all women are terrible. Now.
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: I think that generally most men are willing to give
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: the yeah, well yeah, there they they want more data
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: to back up their thesis at least. But what I'm
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: saying is ultimately, like unrequited love happens, and sometimes, you know,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: it's a bit of a mixed bag, right, because she's
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: saying men are not entitled to anything for a woman
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: outside of friendship if they don't want it, and that men,
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: you know, being upset that they were put in the
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: friend zone is wrong for them, and that they should
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: remain her friend anyway, because you know, it's wrong not
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: to It means you're a bad person or whatever. They
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: try to shame men into staying friends with somebody that
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: they don't want to be friends with if there's not
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: going to be, you know, a romantic outcome, And I
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: think that that's stupid. I think that if you if
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: men aren't interested, or if a man becomes interested in
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: a woman and it turns out she's not interested in
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: him and he she strings them along and uses them
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: as an emotional tampon, then yeah, he has I think
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: it's okay for him to be unhappy with her and
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: not want to talk to her anymore. I don't think
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: that makes him a bad person. I think that it's
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: just him protecting his feelings because she may go and
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: just make disastrous relationship decisions in the future and he'll
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: have moved on and that's probably for the best. But
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: you know, I think it goes the other way. If
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: you're a person and somebody gets angry with you because
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: you like weren't interested in a relationship with them, then
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: that's well, you know, like you ultimately it's your call.
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: So I don't see where the problem. It's almost like
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: people don't want discomfort to exist, Like they don't want
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: there to be such a thing as having your you know,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: feelings hurt because of one thing or the other. I mean,
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, it's but it's okay to be upset
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: about it.
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean. Also, what I found is that
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: when men have trouble with dating, they try to systematize
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: it to figure out what they can do to improve
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: their odds. They actually don't go to women aren't worth
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: it or women are awful like you were talking about, Brian.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: They usually go more to Okay, how do I improve my
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: filter so I can find the good woman? How do
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: I manage women's emotional needs in such a way that
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: I can maintain a relationship with them? How do I
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: become attractive to women? This is what I've seen over
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: and over again. It's not blanket moral rejection of women.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: It's okay, this is an obstacle. Now how do I
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: overcome it? And of course, like I was saying with
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: the sluts and the pines brandt, if women are like now,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: we're all flats. So you've got to deal with that.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: And then men deal with it, and then they talk
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: to each other about dealing with it. Women turn around
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: and say, how dare you deal with what we asked
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: of you, are demanded from you? And it's like, well,
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: but they're just trying to deal with the reality that
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: you've constructed. We got rid of all of the controls
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: on dating and courtship, so now women can sleep with
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: multiple guys at once. They can hold on to this
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: dude you know that they enjoy in bed, but maybe
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: don't want a relationship with They can date these other
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: guys and it's a free for all. And men are
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: trying to deal with that because you sort of requested it,
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: and now their misogynists for saying that's that's a problem
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: they have to deal with. And it's like women think
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: that when men identify problems that women create, that means
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: that men are saying women are evil and not worth it.
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: And I'm watching men identify these problems women create so
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: that they can overcome them to continue to be in
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: relationships with women and form relationships with women. You see
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And it's like women are like, oh
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: my god, you hate us, you hate us, And men
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: are like, no, I'm just trying to figure out the
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: gigantic thorn maze that you've constructed between me and having
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: a relationship with you. I don't obviously, I don't hate you.
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: I'm still trying to get through the thorn maze, you know,
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: I'm just recognizing that you've constructed this for some reason,
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: possibly related to the mysteries of human reproduction. This is
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: the thing, although I hope guys are cluing into that
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: that because I think in the past men would be like, oh,
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: all of women's strange behaviors because they're they're the chaos,
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: you know, they're the the mysteries at the heart of
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: being human, creating new human life and all of this
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: mystical crap. But now women are still behaving in this
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: way and they're not giving birth, so it's it's actually
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: just bullshit.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: It's actually That's another thing too, is I was gonna
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: mention this before. I think women really a lot of
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: them really don't like men talking about the situation because
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: they don't want men to figure them out, and they
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: and they are there is some pleasure in remaining that
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: mysterious mystery. Yeah, I think they get a lot of
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: power out of that because if men are going men
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: I just don't get women like. Women just love that.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: And now men are just like, you know, sipping their
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: coffee like women. M well, and women get there get
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: better out of shape because they don't want men to
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: understand them. They don't want to be understood. It's like
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: they just like being like this force of nature. That's
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: why they like dance the woods naked and worship the
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: moon cycles like they love that. It's is it is
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: like another kind of control. It's basically like keeping them guessing.
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and men don't work that way.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like you're yes, they like that
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: mystique and maintaining that mystique. I think men also like
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: that mystique. There's a lot of men who like that
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: kind of I have to be the most strongest and
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: swiftest and fastest and smartest to win the heart of
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: the mysterious forest maiden or whatever.
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: But the nymph in the in the lake right in
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: the lake like that mythology. I mean it's it's not
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: like basically if men just don't care about getting to
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: that yeah, which that it is happening. I mean, women
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: are getting mad about that. Why aren't you figuring out
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: this Rubik's cube? And men are like, no, it's okay,
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play some video games and watching mph
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: in the lake.
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: Why aren't you figuring.
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: Out you want, don't you want the sword? Yeah?
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: But yeah, that's uh. But I was just thinking as
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: you were saying that, like I struggle to try to
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: get people to understand what the hell I'm talking about.
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: I can't imagine reversing that and creating artificial complexity. It's like,
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: I maybe that's maybe that's why women on the spectrum.
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: Like there was somebody I said, I'm I'm probably on
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: the spectrum and they said, oh, I like you fourteen
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: percent more And I'm like fourteen percent. Where did that
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: come from? How did you come to that calculation of
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: fourteen percent? And I'm like, okay, no, it's just it's
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: just like you know how you if you want to
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: get rid of a vampire, you throw a bunch of
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: rice on the ground and they have to count every grain.
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: I think that they were they were triggering my autism.
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: But regardless, my point is that maybe the reason why
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: women on the spectrum are less like this is because
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: they struggle to be understood to begin with. You don't
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: need to be more mysterious when I don't know, you
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: think in you think in tactile metaphors or something. You're
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: already pretty miss. You're already struggling to be understood. You
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: don't need you don't need to make it worse.
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's just slay a little bit
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: more of this.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: Maybe we should get to the end.
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: That is why, you know, when we talk about the
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: friend zone, it's kind of saying like, if I'm not
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: interested in you romantically and just want to be your friend,
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: then we have a friendship. And I think that friendship
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: should be valued. Friendship deserves more value than it has.
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: Sometimes you aren't romantically or sexually interested in someone, and
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: you should value that relationship that you have without that
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: Platonic relationships are incredibly important. I would say more important
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: than romantic and sexual relationships to be honest.
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: And uh no, I don't think so. And I have
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: lots of really close friends. But like, of course, if
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: you don't think that families are important, then maybe you
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: would think that friendships are more important than romantic relationships
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: or serious relationships. But I'm gonna say no. But maybe
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: this is because you want to live as a child
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: forever and some people don't. Okay, let me jump to
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: the next time code here, because I know that we're
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: running out of time. I don't want to let me
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: see it.
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: Here we go, it's right here, and let's get back
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: into some advocate.
- 1:17:14Speaker 8: We talk a lot about how guys don't pick up
- 1:17:16Speaker 8: on hints, and that's absolutely true, but I'm gonna let
- 1:17:19Speaker 8: you in on a little secret. A lot of them
- 1:17:21Speaker 8: absolutely do. You'll just never know because it has the
- 1:17:25Speaker 8: same results anyway. Because even if a guy does pick
- 1:17:27Speaker 8: up on your subtle hint, even if he has not
- 1:17:30Speaker 8: only picked up on it, but has analyzed it from
- 1:17:32Speaker 8: a thousand different angles, has seen three thousand different doghouses
- 1:17:37Speaker 8: from this hint, he's still not going to do anything
- 1:17:40Speaker 8: about it. Even if he gets it, he is going
- 1:17:42Speaker 8: to pretend that he has no idea what you're hinting
- 1:17:44Speaker 8: at why, because he is not going to reward this
- 1:17:48Speaker 8: behavior because he might get it this time. But if
- 1:17:51Speaker 8: he lets you know that, he's screwing over his future self,
- 1:17:54Speaker 8: that is not getting the future hints because you're gonna
- 1:17:56Speaker 8: come to expect it.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: He can't let you think.
- 1:17:58Speaker 8: Hints work because he relies on proper communication skills to
- 1:18:03Speaker 8: keep the whole relationship afloat. If you can't put in
- 1:18:06Speaker 8: the effort to turn your hint into respectable verbal communication,
- 1:18:09Speaker 8: he's not going to put in three times that effort
- 1:18:12Speaker 8: trying to unscramble your unnecessary puzzle.
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: So you have two options.
- 1:18:16Speaker 8: Either keep dropping hints and enter a psychological stalemate, or
- 1:18:20Speaker 8: use your words and build a healthy relationship.
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: Choice is yours.
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: This bothers me a lot, because yes, communication is obviously important,
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: but like.
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean no, it just reminds you that
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: scene from the notebook, what do you want? It's not
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: that simple, Okay, but let's play the rest of this
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: because of course she has to like contradict this, right,
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: and well, let's just listen to.
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: Her facial expressions and things like that is also a
- 1:18:59Speaker 3: form of communication. I think a part of relationships is
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: obviously getting to know each other really well, so you can.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: Yeah, but how do you do that without being friends? First?
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: Uh, get hints from one another, Like, that's an important
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: part of any relationship. You should be able to pick
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: up on things that I'm hinting at. You should have
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: a somewhat like general understanding of what I'm thinking and
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: what I'm wanting, Like, you shouldn't always have to explicitly
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: say what you want. If you are picking up on
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: what I am hinting, then I have effectively communicated with you.
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: Okay, no you haven't.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: Nope. I'm just fascinated by women who are so fixated
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: on their own internal processes, you know, and want to
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: like like that, want to be that mystery that's solved, right,
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: Like are you really that complex? Is there really that
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: much going on? Or is it just the mystery itself
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: is the only thing, the ability to remain mysterious and unknowable,
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: and once you actually know, there's not much there at all, Yeah,
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: And no, it's all it's I think it's also kind
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: of dangerous for men to act on women's hints these
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: days movements, so like why would they why would they
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: do that? Why would men put themselves at that at
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: risk by Like I wouldn't if I was in the
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: dating world, I wouldn't. I wouldn't respond to any hints.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: I would only respond to direct, direct statements, right, Like
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: I would say, you got to tell me, because I'm
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: not putting myself in danger. And women created that climate.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: So thanks, ladies, you did this.
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's really really they're there's absolutely no reason
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: for this communication. I hope that she enjoys doing this
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: to her female sexual partners and friends. I suppose that
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: they really appreciate that, although really what seems to end
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: up happening is that when you have a group of women,
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: one woman is the one whose hints need to be
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: picked up on, and everyone else is a handmaiden to
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: her emotions. So yeah, they do this too in with themselves.
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: One only one can be the nymph of the lake.
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: Everyone else wants to bead on the shore, guessing what she's.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: Not to speak. Fay, then you can't know what you
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: can't understand me, I'm such a woman. Let me frolic.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: I will frolic in the woods now.
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's nothing really behind that, Like there's just
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: just a desire, Like it's like a thirteen year old's
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: desire to be like, Ah, you can't understand me. No,
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: you're pretty understandable. You're pretty understandable. You're fascinated with yourself,
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: and you want It's like that shit fuck shit stack,
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: except he directed it to war at men. I am
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: a cartoon character. I want to create a haze of
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: incredulity so you'll never be able to be like me.
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: It's like that, you just want to fart out a
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: haze and then disappear in the mist. Fart, fart, fart,
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: I am the nymph of the Hayes.
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: All right. Third one, which she thinks is a gotcha,
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: But like this.
- 1:22:52Speaker 8: Men say so much with their faces. Here are a
- 1:22:54Speaker 8: few of them and what they mean.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: And she's pulling facial expressions with the text on screen
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: that says, don't do that. You're really doing that? Actually
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: not bad, that was wildly inappropriate. But I don't feel
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: comfortable enough to say anything beyond this expression. I tried
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: to warn you. I'm slowly spilling into the crippling loneliness
- 1:23:12Speaker 3: of a lifetime of being misunderstood, abandoned, and forgotten, and
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: I near an end of collapsing into myself like a
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: dying star. Obviously, that lost one's a bit of a joke,
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: But like this bothers me?
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: No, it's not, lady, Why does it bother you? You
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: know what's bothering her? Because she I swear to God,
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: these women identify with being a mystery. It's why she's
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: rainbow right. She wants to be as ethereal.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: She thinks she's mythological or something right, Yeah.
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: Like ethereal and unobtainable, like an atmospheric phenomenon. I swear
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: what she has a problem with is that she's looking
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: at it and she's like, is there a mystery that
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: I am not? Ah, you can't. Men can't have their
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: own mysteries.
- 1:23:57Speaker 8: Men.
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: I can't be asked to understand men. Well, I mean,
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: you don't have to be. I don't even know why
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: you're talking about this. If you're a lesbian, go lesbian,
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: you know, like, go I enjoy your crazy ass fricking
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: community with its highest rate of divorce and probably domestic violence.
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: You know, go enjoy that. You know, it's really funny.
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: I remember, and this was in this was years ago
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: when I was in student government. We went on this
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: retreat and I shared a room with a woman who
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: was a lesbian. And you know, it's late night, and
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: for whatever reason, people like to spill their guts to me,
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: probably because I don't know why. You'd think that my
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: autism would probably prevent them, but for whatever reason, they
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: think I'm trustworthy. Huh. But anyway, so she's talking about
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: how everyone in the lesbian community is nutcase, and she's
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: she's just talking about that, and when I'm listening to it,
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything. I'm just like, Okay, that's unfortunate.
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: But it's like, even lesbians say this if they're if
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: they're being honest. I mean, what was different about this
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: particular lesbian was that she was very honest, more straightforward, and.
- 1:25:24Speaker 7: That this community is full of psychopaths, crazy making people
- 1:25:31Speaker 7: because they engage in this and there's no buffer, there's
- 1:25:35Speaker 7: no buffer, there's nobody.
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: To blame when you're in the community. Of course, they
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: blame men outside of the community for a lot of
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: the stuff that happens in it, but they really it's
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: really difficult to blame them for everything, so they end
- 1:25:48Speaker 2: up just feeding on each other and and getting into
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: this kind of idea that if you don't guess the
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: intentions of the lady of the lake, you're an immoral person,
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: you know. And it's just it's unfortunate. Women. Women with
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: women can produce a lot of toxicity.
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: Let me tell you, all right, yep, okay, uh so,
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's about to do her gotcha now, So okay,
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: it's time.
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: For a squish.
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: All right, here we go playing the video.
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: You cannot These were posted one after another two by
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: the way, you cannot sit here and make a whole
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: video about how women need to communicate exactly what they're
- 1:26:37Speaker 3: feeling all of the time, and that body language and
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: facial by.
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: The way, that's a straw man. She didn't say exactly
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: what they're feeling all the time. She said, just use
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: your words, that's that's all.
- 1:26:50Speaker 3: But anyway expressions and anything like that, that's not enough.
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: You have to use your words to communicate exactly what
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: you're thinking all the time, or men just aren't going
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: to understand, but then going and immediately being like, but
- 1:27:02Speaker 3: men don't have to you have to read about.
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: These are situations where men aren't wanting to directly communicate something,
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: and she's interpreting it like they they are experiencing something,
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: they are expressing an emotion, and they're not actually going
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: to tell you because if they told you, you would
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: go full nuclear.
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: I don't know, nymph on them.
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hold of them, Yeah yeah yeah, they're just good.
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: You just be you, just so they don't. And she's
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: also inviting women to consider that men have their own
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: process and their own language. That's perfectly legitimate. Nobody has
- 1:27:50Speaker 2: ever really clear like there's a huge social idea that
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: women are the ways we are supposed to communicate. Women
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: are the ways that we spoke, The way that women
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: communicate is the way that should be communicated, That women
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: are good communicators, that women's are emotions or how they
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: process emotions is the way to process emulptions. So she's
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: fighting back against that and saying, hey, there's actually a
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: whole realm of communication that is inaccessible to you, ladies.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: But these men are expressing this, but they're not going
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: to necessarily hold that against you or remind you of
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: it in forty years when you piss them off. They're
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: just expressing something and then they'll move on. This isn't
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: a situation where they're not communicating, so they're failing to
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: communicate something that's important to the relationship or their beliefs
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: about you. Right, there's a difference there. One is just
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: an an expression in the moment of a feeling, and
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: then the other is something that you're going to hold
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: on to and resent and implode a relationship over sort
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: of a different amount of stakes between what the man
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: is doing versus what the woman is doing. But also
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: this idea that like again that men communicate things in
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: ways that maybe women should extend themselves to understand. That's novel, Like,
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: that's not something that's often talked about. So I don't
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: think like Brian was saying, I don't think she's saying
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: that nothing should ever be communicated nonverbally, but that it
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: shouldn't always be on men, right.
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: Yeah. You also if a man makes if a man
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: makes a facial expression, you can ask him what did
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: you mean by that, and he'll probably just tell him,
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: probably tell you. He won't be angry that you're that
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: you're disenchanting his face, you know, by like getting the truth.
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: He'll be like, yeah, I don't think men give a
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: shit about that, Like.
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, if you ask him, he'll probably tell you.
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: He won't say something like well if.
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: I have I mean like when men make those a expressions,
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: it's kind of like involuntary right there. It's just like
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: a reaction. So it's like, yeah, yeah, but.
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: If you probably appreciate you asking, you know, or you know,
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: but he's not going to say something like well, if
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: I have to tell you, then it means that it's
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: it's not worth telling you, Like how do the women
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: phrase it? If I have to tell you, then that
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: is the problem.
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: Yeah, if I have to tell you, that's the problem.
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: It's not about the name problem, you know.
- 1:30:33Speaker 2: So it's like that that is the issue. It's not
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: the issue that men are communicating. Like this is the
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: strange kind of childish thinking. If she talks about men
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: community communicating non verbally, she immediately runs to, oh, well
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: that's uh, that's exactly the same as saying that women
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: should never communicate non verbally. Okay, let me let me
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: try to unravel this in my head. Excuse my autism, everyone,
- 1:31:04Speaker 2: excuse it for a moment, all right. She wants women
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: to play these games where men have to guess. And
- 1:31:13Speaker 2: then when dadvocate says that men sometimes communicate nonverbally, which
- 1:31:18Speaker 2: women miss, she's basically saying that's equivalent. So any nonverbal communication,
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: like recognition that maybe men should be their nonverbal communication
- 1:31:29Speaker 2: should also be recognized, is equivalent to Dad the kid
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: calling out women for making these mysteries that men have
- 1:31:38Speaker 2: to navigate and when they fail to, thinking lesser of them.
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying? This is non equivalent.
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: There's a false equivalency here saying that you know, nonverbal
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: communication exists and is a form of communication. Is different
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: than judging men for not being able to interpret your
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: mysterious nonverbal communication. I think, I think, I think Have
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: I communicated?
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:32:04Speaker 2: I think? So, Okay, please tell me in the chat
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: has has something? Has something been conveyed? Or do I
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: need to do more non verbal stuff? No?
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: Please don't. So I think that's it for that timeline.
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: But we're getting close to three, and there is like
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: this last video is not related to the other two?
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: So should we because I got to go pick up
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: Lindsay soon, So should we? Should we? Like maybe postpone
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: that one for another day?
- 1:32:35Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: What is this?
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: What is it?
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: What is it about?
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: It's called why Men? What you don't know? Why all
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: men suck ass? Why all men suck ass? And what
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: I've learned from that? And it's made by somebody name
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: not so Hot. Yeah yeah, okay, So it's just a
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: woman saying I hate men now and it's their fault
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: and and I've learned something from this.
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: So well, what is the most egregious time code that
- 1:33:03Speaker 2: she has?
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: I mean, it's in the title, I think, but let
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: me see, uh.
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: What entapsulates her thesis? Because I feel like I.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: Feel like I think, yeah, no, I mean.
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: Just do one time code.
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: I've had.
- 1:33:24Speaker 5: I person with a very rough and you know, tough humor.
- 1:33:28Speaker 5: And the thing is when it's when you joke between
- 1:33:30Speaker 5: two different genders, you can go as rough as possible.
- 1:33:33Speaker 5: It's not gonna hurt, right, Like I can say the
- 1:33:35Speaker 5: meanest ship to a guy and he's not going to
- 1:33:37Speaker 5: punch me in the face hopefully most of the times.
- 1:33:39Speaker 5: But if I say it to a girl, you know,
- 1:33:41Speaker 5: to my girlfriends, most of them they're like, girl, that
- 1:33:43Speaker 5: was me, And I'm like, yeah, So that's why I like,
- 1:33:47Speaker 5: with my girlfriends are much more gentle, and with the
- 1:33:49Speaker 5: guy friends were just gross each other and generally.
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: I do not like to that doesn't say anything about
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: men and women that men can take a joke where
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: women can't. I mean, but that's not that it's not
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: the bit I'm looking for.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: Hold on, okay, don't worry about it. You got plenty
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: of time.
- 1:34:05Speaker 5: Everybody's waiting, right, men and women into different different baskets.
- 1:34:09Speaker 5: Like I'm very like progressive about that. I just feel like, like,
- 1:34:12Speaker 5: especially like with this all political, technological, medical, like everything
- 1:34:17Speaker 5: advancements that we have in twenty first century. I thought
- 1:34:19Speaker 5: we're kind of like equal to each other. Of course,
- 1:34:21Speaker 5: we have our like biological differences, you know, our cycles
- 1:34:24Speaker 5: and the way we think, you know, like men post
- 1:34:26Speaker 5: of clarity and shit like that, but generally we were like,
- 1:34:28Speaker 5: you know, similar, and I think in I thought men
- 1:34:31Speaker 5: are capable of like basic understanding of feelings, emotions and friendship.
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: Boy oble Okay, it sounds like she's she's moving into
- 1:34:39Speaker 2: something interesting.
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: Men. Yeah, men don't have feelings?
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: Uh?
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: Okay, was that wrong? So like when so when you
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: tell jokes about women to women, they say, girl, that
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: hurt my feelings. And when you're telling the men, they
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: kind of laugh it off, or at least they don't
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: appear to be hurt. And then later you say, men,
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: I don't have feelings. So should men get offended at
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: you when you joke about them? Or does that expose
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: them as weak and therefore still worthy of scorn? Good
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: question to think about.
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't work out.
- 1:35:14Speaker 5: No, No, I've been served with this lesson than men
- 1:35:19Speaker 5: are trashed.
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: Do you think she's a comedian? By the way, this
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: is a small channel. It's like one thousand and sub
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: so not really, you know, punching down a little bit. Yes,
- 1:35:30Speaker 1: they could blow up overnight. I mean, we got our
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: pink lighting. She might know. Maybe there's certain colors the
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: algorithm grabs, and I think like the pinks and purples
- 1:35:39Speaker 1: they get picked up, whereas like you know, red and
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: black don't.
- 1:35:44Speaker 9: So since I was fifteen years old, So men have
- 1:35:52Speaker 9: been trashed since she was fifteen years old, is what
- 1:35:54Speaker 9: she's saying.
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: Since she was fifteen, men have been trash because a
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: fifteen year old man. Wait a minute, that's not a man,
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: that's a boy.
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, annoying, like teenage kids can be quite annoying.
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: Yes, I did some substitute teaching in a high school
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: and the girls were worse, though I'm not saying they
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: were glued to take. They were glued to TikTok and
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: social media. And I was like, do you guys have
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: like rules against this, like you know, no, apparently not.
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: Apparently not. Now the kids have phones in their pockets. Uh,
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: there there are no rules for that. Yes, I know,
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: antisocial contracts. It's called bisexual lighting. Yes, yes, I'm glad
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: that you know about I know about that. Yes, yeah,
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: bisexual lighting is like a certain it's it's literally a
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: dog whistle. I think, I don't know, it's everywhere though,
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: maybe actually in video games and movies. So well, that's
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: that that badger in the background is getting it's a
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: little it's a little magenda, but it's not on my face.
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: My face, I got no little too cyam my face
- 1:37:07Speaker 2: I think are yellow. Oh sallow, I'm a little too sallow,
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: but not sallow enough, you know.
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, okay, so listen.
- 1:37:16Speaker 5: More my face every time, just like, no, but this
- 1:37:20Speaker 5: guy's different. No, but he's actually being a good friend.
- 1:37:23Speaker 5: Oh no, he actually cared for me. I used to
- 1:37:30Speaker 5: judge the cynical hatement, you know, especially when they're like
- 1:37:33Speaker 5: in their forties and fifteen certainly doesn't matter.
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: I just yeah, she basically goes and talks about some
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: bad relationships. I don't know if there's like a specific
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: because like, look, you know, people get their heartbroken. It happens.
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: Some of them. They suck it up. They try to think, Okay,
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: I'll you know, what, what what can I learn from this?
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: Like that's kind of a big thing, you know. What
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: do you learn from your mistakes? What do you learn
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: from your bad experiences? What do you learn from like
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: terrible things even if it's shit that happened to you
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: that you didn't contribute to in any way, there's still
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: always something to learn from that. It isn't in its
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: own way a blessing. But some people put that on
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: the internet. I don't think I would never do that.
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: I try not to do that. I think the last
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: thing was like when I had cancer, But I think
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: everybody had to learn that I had cancer so they
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: could understand why I wasn't around for a while. But uh,
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: but yeah, like if I don't know, I.
- 1:38:32Speaker 2: Think that's reasonable if you have like an ongoing audience,
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: you know, like it's not drama, it's just if you know,
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: getting people want to know if you're okay, right, yeah.
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: I guess, well yeah yeah, sure, sure, sure, yeah sure.
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: But like in her case, I think it's just like,
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: you know, all men are trash, and here's why, and
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: here's two stories of I think it's like two stories
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: she tells about like some you know, bad spence she had.
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: And yet I have to wonder, like what if you
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: contributed to those problems and you didn't, you don't think
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: that there's anything that you could learn from that that
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: you could use to make you a better person. And
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: if you if let's say the first and I mean
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: I would say that most people don't get it right
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: the first time anyway. So if your first relationship was
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: a disaster, maybe you got involved for the wrong reasons,
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: you know whatever.
- 1:39:30Speaker 2: So how long are these how long are these stories?
- 1:39:34Speaker 2: You do one?
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: Well, this video is like half an hour, So.
- 1:39:37Speaker 2: Oh my god, she does these stories take a half
- 1:39:39Speaker 2: an hour to tell?
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, it's like the whole video is like her
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: two examples of like what you know? She Yeah, those
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: are two examples of why men suck? Right, that's the video.
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: I think unless Richard Beierre knows something that I don't know,
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: I'm unfortunately get to watch this whole thing because I
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: value my own sanity.
- 1:40:04Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, like, uh, let's just let me
- 1:40:08Speaker 2: just take a look. Let me take a look really quick.
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: I know that you got to go soon here.
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: This doesn't have to be up, so I can't, like,
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: but I do have three main top top time codes
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: where she talks about stuff. So all right, let me
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: just jump ahead to like eight minutes in almost like
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: and again, she's a comedian, so she's like using this
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: to like I think that what she's really doing is
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: doing like a Janine Garoffalo bit, who is a If
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: you don't know, Jenny Garoffalo is a very very popular,
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: famous feminist comedian that did some movies and stuff, and
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: she also hates men. She dated Ben Siller for a
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: while and I don't know how to feel about that,
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: but but he they did break up. I think Ben
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: Siller got out of there, which says something thing about But.
- 1:41:02Speaker 5: Anyway, because I'm a wise woman, you know, am I?
- 1:41:13Speaker 5: So there's a three levels of betrayal.
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: So well, she's sitting on the floor, eating chocolates and
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: drinking tea. She's in between This is like the female
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: equivalent of being in between jobs for unemployed people. She's
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: in between boyfriends. I think. So that's yeah, But women
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: in between boyfriends can they collect unemployment? Yes, it's called
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: simps and orbiters. That's basically what it is. That's what
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: a simp is. He's unemployment for women who don't have boyfriends. Anyway,
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: let's start.
- 1:41:49Speaker 5: But the closest one lover, you know, I'm a relationship
- 1:41:52Speaker 5: a long long time still together. Will not disclose who
- 1:41:55Speaker 5: he is. I respect his privacy. He's a private person.
- 1:41:57Speaker 5: I will not tell you what he's done. But let's
- 1:41:59Speaker 5: just say he off. So what I would do, I
- 1:42:03Speaker 5: would try to control him because I want the best
- 1:42:07Speaker 5: for him, right, I want him to succeed in life.
- 1:42:09Speaker 5: I like, I know what he needs to do or
- 1:42:11Speaker 5: what needs to be done for him to be good,
- 1:42:13Speaker 5: because like he has so much potential.
- 1:42:15Speaker 2: Okay, I'm trying to I don't think I need to.
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: Say anything, So there you go. She she tries to
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: control her boyfriends because she thinks she knows what's best
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: for them.
- 1:42:26Speaker 2: Brian, Yes, I don't think I need to say anything.
- 1:42:30Speaker 2: She's just I think she's just she She is both
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: her own example and her own counter argument, So I
- 1:42:40Speaker 2: just let her roll.
- 1:42:42Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's really that's it's true. There's nothing to say.
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: It's like, I'll use my I'll use my body language, No,
- 1:42:52Speaker 2: my expressions. Now we're going to respond in expressions.
- 1:42:58Speaker 5: Yea, with my he can become a huge, huge thing.
- 1:43:03Speaker 5: Right after wasting a lot of my nerves, I've realized you.
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: Can barely change yourself. You have you.
- 1:43:11Speaker 2: Ever tried changed yourself? Like?
- 1:43:12Speaker 5: Have you ever tried to become a morning person? Have
- 1:43:14Speaker 5: you ever tried to become a productive person? Have you
- 1:43:16Speaker 5: ever tried to like not talk shit about other people.
- 1:43:19Speaker 5: Imagine that, Like, imagine how hard it's.
- 1:43:21Speaker 9: Doing for yourself.
- 1:43:22Speaker 2: You know what you need to try?
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: Girls?
- 1:43:25Speaker 2: Okay, because she's just told on herself. She's not a
- 1:43:28Speaker 2: morning person, she's not a productive person, she's probably not
- 1:43:31Speaker 2: a particularly good person, and yet she thinks she's in
- 1:43:35Speaker 2: a position to change someone else for the better. I
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: think what she needs to change about herself is being
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: a bit more humble.
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: Okay, right you are yep? Okay, show so okay, we'll
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: play more this. But like I mean, she's basically giving
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: up the goat here.
- 1:44:03Speaker 5: So never change a man. You can never change him.
- 1:44:08Speaker 5: Do not be Barbara or the builder. And even if
- 1:44:09Speaker 5: you manage Barbara the builder, and even if you manage
- 1:44:13Speaker 5: to build a guy, most of the times he will
- 1:44:16Speaker 5: leave you once he becomes something else. In a lot
- 1:44:19Speaker 5: of cases, if a guy's an alcoholic or a bum
- 1:44:22Speaker 5: and you just like shape him into a guy like
- 1:44:26Speaker 5: his best self, he will leave you because he doesn't
- 1:44:28Speaker 5: want to be reminded what he was with you before.
- 1:44:31Speaker 2: He wants to have a clean slate and meet a
- 1:44:33Speaker 2: girl wants to be this once the man has once
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: the man has got your sword. He's got the sword
- 1:44:43Speaker 2: from the lake. He leaves you.
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: On the opposite is what happens? Well, first of all,
- 1:44:50Speaker 1: a woman, you should be asking yourself, if you feel
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: the need to change a man completely, what did you
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: like about him in the place? Like, if you feel
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: the need to change him completely, what did you ever
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: like about him? And if you change him enough to
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: the point where nothing that he was is you know,
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: like if you you basically like separated him from his
- 1:45:14Speaker 1: entire identity and you left him as a shell of
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: his former self because everything that he did you criticized
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: into oblivion, you may not be interested in him anymore
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: because the man that you liked you killed. But like
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: what what? What? Like why are we even having this conversation?
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: Like you know, it's it's okay to have standards, but like,
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: and I get that where all works in progress, but
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: it depends on like, if you want to fundamentally change
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: who this person is, then who the hell did you
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: like begin to like to begin with? And yeah, what
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: are you making this person into? Like or you know,
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: and and once you do, first of all, what what
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: is left of that person after you've done all that?
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: And also do you like what's left because the person
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: that you liked was there like whatever he had right whatever,
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: you know, if it was like, man, you just don't
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: have that like spark in you anymore that I fell
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: in love with? What happened to that? You were smiling
- 1:46:17Speaker 1: and like high energy and so much fun And now
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: you're not, now that I've taken everything out of you
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: like that that I didn't that I nitpicked or my
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: girlfriends told me to nitpick or whatever, and now there's
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: nothing left but a shell. And I don't like the shell.
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: What happened to the thing I was making?
- 1:46:34Speaker 2: You?
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: Overworked? The clay lady.
- 1:46:37Speaker 2: No, it's just now it's just a slurry. Now it's
- 1:46:40Speaker 2: just slip. All you you clay nerds, will understand what
- 1:46:44Speaker 2: that meant. I just wanted to add when did it's okay?
- 1:46:51Speaker 2: So somebody said, well, maybe she's the problem. No, she
- 1:46:54Speaker 2: she says that she's the problem. She acknowledges it. But
- 1:46:58Speaker 2: you know, it's this new We're in this ironic post
- 1:47:02Speaker 2: man eater world where you acknowledge as a woman all
- 1:47:06Speaker 2: of the awful shit that you are. And that's cool.
- 1:47:10Speaker 5: You know that just.
- 1:47:11Speaker 2: Makes you edgy.
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: It's not even that it's like, it's I think it's
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: you know, I think there are women going that, Oh,
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that, because that's exactly me.
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't I don't want to look in
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: the comments, but yeah, I mean they're just admitting it.
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: Because when you feel like you are so righteous about
- 1:47:31Speaker 1: your opinions on things, no matter how abhorrent they are,
- 1:47:34Speaker 1: then you just put them out there because like, why
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: would anyone shame you for having the right opinions.
- 1:47:40Speaker 2: I'm just saying that there's this kind of it's kind
- 1:47:44Speaker 2: of dirty girl chic going on, like she's she's she
- 1:47:49Speaker 2: knows that she's a hot mess, and she's proud of
- 1:47:53Speaker 2: it almost, you know, and it's it's it's a little
- 1:47:57Speaker 2: bit weird, to be honest, I'm trying to think of
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: this weird. Yeah, Okay, let's is there? Does she go
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: any further with I mean, Harry Cavell, is that is? That?
- 1:48:09Speaker 1: Isn't that Harry Cavill, Henry Cavill.
- 1:48:11Speaker 2: Henry Cavill. Sorry, I'm not really good with names or celebrities.
- 1:48:16Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was like a toss up that that
- 1:48:18Speaker 2: was that guy? Well, the definition of a perfect guy.
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you disagree with him politically though, so
- 1:48:23Speaker 2: not really. I guess he's a work in progress.
- 1:48:26Speaker 1: He is. Yes, she'll probably make him into something unrecognizable
- 1:48:31Speaker 1: and then like break up with him.
- 1:48:32Speaker 2: Sorry, my pain is coming back. That's why I have
- 1:48:34Speaker 2: to put my eyeglasses back on. For all of you,
- 1:48:38Speaker 2: you were like, oh, what's with that? What's with the
- 1:48:40Speaker 2: safety glasses? I can I can either do a stream
- 1:48:45Speaker 2: that's lit, or I can do a stream in the
- 1:48:47Speaker 2: dark and you can just see me just like with
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: you know, a little shade creature coming to you from
- 1:48:54Speaker 2: the dark. Very mysterious. Though maybe I should do that
- 1:48:57Speaker 2: be very feminine. Okay, let's not.
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's it's we should be wrapping it
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: up because I.
- 1:49:04Speaker 2: Gotta go yeah, yeah, okay, all right, right are we.
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: That's basically yeah, I mean there's not much. I mean,
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: she's kind of pathetic and she thinks it's funny. But
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: it's just cope. It's it's cope. It's all cope. All
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: these women are just coping because men are like starting
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: to like, you know, really wake up and and act
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: on that. And uh, some women are are understanding and
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: they're getting on board and supporting men, and these women
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: are just coping about it.
- 1:49:33Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, so I think I think we
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: have a super chow. And I got to thank you,
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: thank you to Richard Beer, completely unrelated to the content
- 1:49:45Speaker 2: of the video. He supported us for the tune of
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: one thousand bucks, So thank you Richard Beer.
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, And.
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I just also, she's sort of grading to watch
- 1:49:58Speaker 2: that last one. I mean, Skittle's is also grading to watch.
- 1:50:01Speaker 2: But I think Skittles is just trying to cope with
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: I see the pain in her eyes. She just kind
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: of cope with being a lesbian.
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: It's like that being a mid.
- 1:50:15Speaker 2: She probably isn't that bad looking if you scrape the
- 1:50:18Speaker 2: makeup off, but I don't know how much filter she
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: puts on. But my point is that do you remember
- 1:50:27Speaker 2: that Bill Barr. It's not even my point. The thing
- 1:50:30Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up with that Bill Burr sketch
- 1:50:32Speaker 2: about the lesbians, you.
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah, sure, yeah, vaguely about like the lesbian
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: domestic violence stats.
- 1:50:39Speaker 2: Right, well, no, no, I think it was Bill Burr,
- 1:50:41Speaker 2: but he's like you ever see a lesbian? Correct me
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, It might not be Bill Burr. You
- 1:50:48Speaker 2: ever go to like a lesbian bar and you don't
- 1:50:50Speaker 2: don't look at the young lesbians who are just new
- 1:50:54Speaker 2: and excited. Look at the ones who've been dating other
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: women for like five years, and how they're just like
- 1:51:01Speaker 2: grizzled and they're just at the bar and they're knocking
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: back shots and they're just like, I've seen some stuff, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:51:09Speaker 2: having flashbacks after having dated women for five years. And
- 1:51:13Speaker 2: then you compare that to gay men who are so
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: so happy it's almost illegal, just floating high.
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:51:26Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, that was pretty funny. So she's probably
- 1:51:29Speaker 2: doing some serious cope because she has to date women,
- 1:51:32Speaker 2: and I feel sorry for her.
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't have to make a political statement, just
- 1:51:38Speaker 1: like humble yourself and maybe you'll you'll date a man.
- 1:51:42Speaker 2: But the thing is that I don't know. I think
- 1:51:44Speaker 2: if lesbian's ever like the political lesbian community, if you
- 1:51:49Speaker 2: banned the word men from their lexicon, they would probably
- 1:51:54Speaker 2: implode in thirty minutes. They have to have escapegoat in
- 1:51:59Speaker 2: order to keep themselves alive, because then they'd have to
- 1:52:03Speaker 2: address all of the aggression and violence that they engage in.
- 1:52:07Speaker 2: And I don't mean just physical, I mean verbal and passive, aggressive,
- 1:52:13Speaker 2: and all of the dysfunction that comes out of two
- 1:52:16Speaker 2: people doing things like.
- 1:52:21Speaker 7: You should just know, well, you should just know well,
- 1:52:25Speaker 7: you should just know.
- 1:52:27Speaker 2: If you don't know what you did wrong, then that
- 1:52:31Speaker 2: is the problem. Well, that's the very problem that you
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: don't know what you did wrong because you should just know, well,
- 1:52:38Speaker 2: you should just know well. And it's like, okay, just
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: how do you have a relationship like that with two
- 1:52:45Speaker 2: people saying you should just know? Of course, what ends
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: up happening is one woman establishes herself as emotionally dominant,
- 1:52:56Speaker 2: and it's the other woman who has to end up
- 1:52:58Speaker 2: just knowing. And this is and this is not about
- 1:53:03Speaker 2: like being common. This is not about being compassionate. It's
- 1:53:07Speaker 2: not about being cooperative. It's not about being kind or
- 1:53:11Speaker 2: having greater emotional EQ. It's about using emotions as a weapon.
- 1:53:17Speaker 2: Nobody should have to guess right, right. They shouldn't have
- 1:53:22Speaker 2: to guess what you're feeling. And furthermore, they shouldn't have
- 1:53:25Speaker 2: You shouldn't be holding it against them if they don't
- 1:53:28Speaker 2: guess right. That makes you a tyrant. It makes you
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: a tyrant with a new tool to enact tyranny. Tyranny
- 1:53:36Speaker 2: doesn't make you a good person. Ugh, all right, so
- 1:53:41Speaker 2: I'm good.
- 1:53:42Speaker 1: No, you gotta go. Okay.
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