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Furness Show 7-22: Corbin Smith, Dwight Jaynes, Stewart Mandel · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFMS Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Choose Chill. Gino Suarez brought the good vibes for the
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  Speaker 2: Reds on Tuesday night for to win with the Mariners over,
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  Speaker 2: Luis Castiel gave up a pair of solo home runs.
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  Speaker 2: M snapped a three game win streak with the loss
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  Speaker 2: as well. Gina was great had one of those solo
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  Speaker 2: home runs, also made a great defensive play. Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 2: bit later. Seahawks plays Zax Charbay and the Pupu list
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  Speaker 2: this morning. That was expected. Unlike nick Eman Warry, that
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  Speaker 2: was expected. Training camp starts on Saturday for the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks Devin Witherspoon, according to Ian Rappaport, are we're close
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  Speaker 2: to a massive contract extension. We'll see what that ends
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  Speaker 2: up making. He's doing to make ten point one this year.
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  Speaker 2: Remember who's a high first round draft pick. That's his
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  Speaker 2: standard four year rookie contract. So hopefully they get something
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  Speaker 2: done before weekend. Otherwise we'll probably see Devin Witherspoon doing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of standing round during training camp. The hold
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  Speaker 2: In hold out as they do out there as well.
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  Speaker 2: Storm play tonight taken on Minnesota. Their star player and
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  Speaker 2: Defeast Collier is back in the lineup for the first
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  Speaker 2: time this year. Sounders later on tonight against the Austin team.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're playing that one late in Austin too.
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  Speaker 2: They postponed in an hour. Yeah, and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: on nine to fifty because it's hot, right, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: hot there in Texas. It's hot in Texas. Water's wet, water,
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  Speaker 2: let's see, water's wet, sun is hot, ice is cold,
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  Speaker 2: and it's hot in Texas. All right, let's go, all right,
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  Speaker 2: let's go here. It is on a Wednesday get away
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  Speaker 2: day for the baseball team. Coming up here a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later on. Oh god, I want it so bad.
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  Speaker 2: I want so bad for this this team. Not to
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  Speaker 2: just make it so obvious to criticize, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: just if you're gonna lose a game, just lose a game.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do it with the thing that you did last night.
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  Speaker 2: Don't make it so hard to defend Dan Wilson and
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  Speaker 2: the organization. Just you're gonna lose games. It's one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixty two that you played during the course of year,
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna lose games. But last night was one of
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  Speaker 2: those games. Again, it was one of those games. Now
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  Speaker 2: before I get to the bat, and I've never been
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  Speaker 2: the I've never ever ever, doesn't matter what team, what sport,
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  Speaker 2: if it's a team that I am a fan of
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  Speaker 2: or a root for, if somebody leaves, almost ninety nine
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  Speaker 2: point nine percent of time, if somebody leaves, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: see you later, not rooting for them, don't care, move on.
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  Speaker 2: Not a fan. You're either with me or you're against me.
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  Speaker 2: It's really that simple. I have the one point one percent,
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  Speaker 2: I guess would be one of the This would be
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  Speaker 2: one of the rare exceptions. Genos for us so cool
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  Speaker 2: Monday seeing their ovation. He got just awesome. He's zero
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  Speaker 2: for three that first game, I think it punched out twice.
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  Speaker 2: Just wasn't great. But I watched him, and I watched
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  Speaker 2: the emotion, you know, when he was here the first time.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about it yesterday, the impact he made in
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  Speaker 2: the clubhouse service, talking about what he could do off
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  Speaker 2: the field, all those things, and then watching him yesterday
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  Speaker 2: do two Geno things. He's not the same. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I think they made a late inning defensive replacement for him,
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of odd. But the defense at one
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  Speaker 2: point was stellar. And last night he made a play
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  Speaker 2: that you will never see made by a Mariner third
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  Speaker 2: baseman this year or maybe ever. No, because JP doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have that arm and it just isn't gonna happen. But
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  Speaker 2: the play he made where he backhanded a hot shot
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  Speaker 2: and then threw the ball while he was in the
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  Speaker 2: air to get a guy that's got some speed in
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  Speaker 2: Randy Rose Arena spectacular, really cool, Like, Okay, there's Gino,
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  Speaker 2: there's vintage Gino right there in front of us, and
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  Speaker 2: then the home run, and if you're gonna lose a game,
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  Speaker 2: I guess the silver lining is cool for Gino. I
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  Speaker 2: think it probably didn't make sense to bring him back,
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  Speaker 2: although I guess maybe it does. I don't know. We
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  Speaker 2: could have that argument. I'm sure Baseball Well, I'll bring
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  Speaker 2: that up on Monday with the Mully whoppers. But that
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  Speaker 2: was cool because that was the only good thing in
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  Speaker 2: a loss, because the rest of it, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: makes it too easy. Triple a pitcher brought in in
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  Speaker 2: a one run game. Why why? And you know, Wilson
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  Speaker 2: was asked that last night. I think both Booth and
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  Speaker 2: Kramer and Tim Booth and Daniel Kramer both in some
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  Speaker 2: ways asked that question and they got the answer of well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he pitched god the SoundBite, I'm my god,
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  Speaker 2: he pitched, well the night before it's a blowout. There's
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  Speaker 2: no it's a you want to see very much the
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  Speaker 2: opposite of a high leverage It's not even a low
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  Speaker 2: leverage situation. It's a no leverage situation. And so that happens,
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  Speaker 2: so a three to two game turns into four to
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  Speaker 2: two game. It just that that just made absolutely no sense.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, let's go back a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks when Justin Hollander came out and did his little
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  Speaker 2: kind of the He does a lot of updates in
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  Speaker 2: the dugout pregame. He speaks a lot, which I I
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  Speaker 2: do appreciate. I think fans should appreciate it as well,
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  Speaker 2: the GM speaking as often as he does and giving updates.
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  Speaker 2: But he kind of went on this little soapbox about
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  Speaker 2: the lunatic fringe fan base and or media and people
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  Speaker 2: criticizing the medical staff and all of that. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to criticize the medical staff, but I'm going to question.
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  Speaker 2: So not not not criticized, but I'm going to question
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  Speaker 2: the process. So Julio takes a ball off the ass
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  Speaker 2: on Monday, gets taken out, which then we're coming off
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup. Toughness is always a big question with soccer.
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  Speaker 2: Writhing in pain, getting back up. You're fine, Julio goes
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  Speaker 2: out and then then Julio is is not available for
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  Speaker 2: yesterday's game, we don't think, But then he comes in
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  Speaker 2: later in the game. Oh, by the way, hit a
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  Speaker 2: solo home run.
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  Speaker 3: What are we.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing? Like? What are we doing? Why
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  Speaker 2: aren't you starting him at this point? If he's healthy
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  Speaker 2: enough to play? And it wasn't just like play one,
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  Speaker 2: like have an app like if he's healthy enough, Like
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  Speaker 2: why is he not in there? You're already dinged up.
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  Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan was zero for three last night with a
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  Speaker 2: strikeout in EVERTT. He's his seven month long rehab assignment continues. Jeez,
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  Speaker 2: you know you've got Matt Brash is still out with
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  Speaker 2: an injury, which which is hurting you tremendously in the level.
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  Speaker 2: If you do have a high leverage situation in the bullpen,
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  Speaker 2: in a shortened bullpen. Already you're offensively challenged most nights,
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  Speaker 2: and so Julio, why was he not available? Like and
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  Speaker 2: you know the treatment, my ass, get there, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: get earlier, to get to the ballpark earlier, get your
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  Speaker 2: treatment at ten am, eleven am, have some lunch, take
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  Speaker 2: a nap, come back. What are we doing? This is?
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  Speaker 2: This is I think the frustration for not just me
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  Speaker 2: here sitting here pontificating, but I think for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fans is you ask yourself why, like why are
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  Speaker 2: they doing what they do? Sometimes? Because there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things in baseball, the nuances that make no sense
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  Speaker 2: to most of us. And that's why these guys are
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  Speaker 2: managers and gms and they're paying a lot of money
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  Speaker 2: and they run the show. Other things seem to be
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  Speaker 2: fairly obvious. I don't know, run the ball from two
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  Speaker 2: yards out on a first you know, in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: at the goal line, ouch, you know, if Julio's healthy
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  Speaker 2: enough to play, let him play.
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  Speaker 3: It.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a little bit mind boggling last night.
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  Speaker 2: That was one that you probably should have got. And
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  Speaker 2: now they can still win the series. Get a win today,
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  Speaker 2: you win the series. You're fine, you move on. Then
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  Speaker 2: you get the big one against Texas. But we see
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  Speaker 2: what the margin of error is. Right now, you go
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  Speaker 2: from first place to second place, and that'll probably be
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  Speaker 2: back and forth. We're set up for just an incredible
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  Speaker 2: series in Texas. By the way, guys like that's that's
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  Speaker 2: the cool thing. Here's a fun thing. You have four
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  Speaker 2: games against the Rangers. Now, if the teams split, whoever
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  Speaker 2: comes out, whoever ends today half game up. If the
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  Speaker 2: team split the next four, obviously it's still just a
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  Speaker 2: half game lead, but it sets up for somebody has
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  Speaker 2: a great opportunity over the next four days after today,
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  Speaker 2: Thursday through Sunday to maybe even put a little distance
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  Speaker 2: between themselves and the other team. You hope it's our
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  Speaker 2: team and see how all But to get to that point,
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  Speaker 2: you can't just keep kicking games. Greg greg Bell made
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  Speaker 2: a great point. The games that you kick in in
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  Speaker 2: May and June and July they matter as much as
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  Speaker 2: the ones that you kick in August and September. They
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  Speaker 2: all count the same. This isn't college athletics, where it's
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  Speaker 2: subjective in nature, and you go, well, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't get no. No this They all count the same.
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  Speaker 2: So last night was one of those ones. It just
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  Speaker 2: it just felt like you should have had that. It's
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  Speaker 2: a bad baseball team. It's a not a good team.
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  Speaker 2: You're playing decent starting, pitching, bad bullpen. They've got a
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  Speaker 2: couple of guys that can rake. I get that. But
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  Speaker 2: Castillo gave you every chance in the world. But two things, Juio,
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  Speaker 2: why not playing and late inning? That's still high leverage
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  Speaker 2: in a one run game, even if you trail by
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  Speaker 2: one run. Yeah, right, that is trump. That's that's that's all.
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  Speaker 2: That's a really really big difference going into the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of the ninth by one. You get a guy on
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  Speaker 2: this team, this team by and large a good base
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  Speaker 2: running team. You get a guy on you're in pretty
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  Speaker 2: good shape, Like you're in pretty good shape, especially as
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  Speaker 2: much as they hit the long ball and how dependent
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  Speaker 2: they are by the way cal Raley update yesterday. Oh
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  Speaker 2: for three didn't get on base with a couple of
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  Speaker 2: walks yesterday, but he was I'm sorry oh for two
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  Speaker 2: officially with two walks and did strike out as well.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see if he can bounce back. He's back in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup. Tonight, which I thought was a little bit odd.
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  Speaker 2: He has played seventy eighteen nineteen twenty, so he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: play yet again today in a boat like they're they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna ride that horse and tell it until they got
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  Speaker 2: to put it down. Apparently, like I thought we would
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  Speaker 2: have seen Garber in there, but he's behind the plate
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  Speaker 2: again today. All right, here's us coming up on the
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  Speaker 2: show today. Corbin Smith's gonna join us next our continuing
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: previews of training camp, which starts on Saturday. Again, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be out there as a radio station starting on
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  Speaker 2: Monday at six am with Chuck Powell starting kicking off
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  Speaker 2: our coverage, than Greg, than Me, then Softy and Faine.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be out there anytime they're practicing. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: be out there doing shows. So that's coming up. Corbyn
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  Speaker 2: will talk running backs with us here in just a
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  Speaker 2: few minutes. Coming up at one o'clock, we'll check in
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  Speaker 2: with Dwight James, the godfather of all media down in Portland. Man,
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: it is an apps. I said this when it first happened.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep it. It is the Clayton Bennett
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  Speaker 2: playbook like nothing I've ever seen it is so Clayton
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  Speaker 2: Bennett playbook, It's crazy. We'll check in with Dwight James
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  Speaker 2: coming up today at one o'clock, and then Stuart Mandel,
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  Speaker 2: let's get some college football conversation and shall we will
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  Speaker 2: do that coming up at two pm today, but Corbyn
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  Speaker 2: Smith coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to take a deep dive into all things
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  Speaker 2: Now with Gorbyn Smith. Here's Ian all right, doing this
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  Speaker 2: all week getting ready for training. Camp starts on Saturday. Again.
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  Speaker 2: Our first shows are on Monday. Chuck Powell kicks things
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  Speaker 2: off at six am for our station at the Virginia
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  Speaker 2: Mason Athletics Center, and our good friend Corbyn Smith joins
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  Speaker 2: us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Hello, sir,
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  Speaker 2: how are you? Long time no speak? It's been at
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  Speaker 2: least it's been at least twenty four hours something like that.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, no surprise today, right they put Zach
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  Speaker 2: Charboney on the pup We expect that to happen. Was
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  Speaker 2: just a matter of once he got in there and
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  Speaker 2: got the physical taken. So he adds in addition to
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Macintosh, Tyron Broden, who's a cornerback. And then also,
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  Speaker 2: as we talked about yesterday Nicki min Worri, Zach Sharbona
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  Speaker 2: is on the pup list as well. I think the
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  Speaker 2: only question with Zach Sharbony is talk about running backs today.
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  Speaker 2: You know when will he be back? And I guess
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  Speaker 2: the easiest answer is probably Corbyn. Nobody knows, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is still a very fluid situation.
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  Speaker 4: I know that him being on the field during mini
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  Speaker 4: camp and doing some stuff before practice got fans fired up,
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  Speaker 4: and he's a little bit ahead of schedule.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you know the fans that were rushing.
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  Speaker 4: To the conclusion, oh, he could be back for the
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  Speaker 4: season opener.
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  Speaker 2: That is not happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's going to open the regular season on
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  Speaker 4: the pup list.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty much inevitable.
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  Speaker 4: But I think where you start to get into that
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  Speaker 4: range is after that fourth game that he's required to
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  Speaker 4: sit out.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, where's he at now?
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  Speaker 4: Are we in a position where maybe by early mid
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  Speaker 4: October that we can get him back out on the
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  Speaker 4: practice field and get him ready to play in games
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  Speaker 4: or or is it going to be something that drags
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  Speaker 4: on into November. And I do think the other factor
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  Speaker 4: here is just you know, how the running backs that
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  Speaker 4: are helped the play up to that point too, because
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  Speaker 4: if they get to a juncture where it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: our run game isn't where we want it to be.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we're not going to speed this up for
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  Speaker 4: charbon A, but you know we'll be on the shorter
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  Speaker 4: span if we think he's going to help get our
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  Speaker 4: run game back where we need it to be at.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's going to play into it as well.
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  Speaker 2: We talked yesterday, Corban about the offensive line, and you
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  Speaker 2: made the comment this this could be one of the
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  Speaker 2: best ones they've had in a long time. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: a few question marks. They like Bradford. I know fans
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  Speaker 2: and some media don't like Bradford. They like Bradford at
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  Speaker 2: right guard and that would be really kind of the
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  Speaker 2: only big question mark as as a team. They were
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  Speaker 2: tenth last year in terms of yards per game in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, tied for tenth one hundred and twenty three
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL. And you know, by and large, it's
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  Speaker 2: not like gona have a runing quarterback, So that came
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  Speaker 2: out of the running back position. Let me just start
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  Speaker 2: with the bigger picture. How important is the run game
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  Speaker 2: to what? We don't know exactly Brian Fleury, but we
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  Speaker 2: do know where he comes from, his lineage and the style.
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  Speaker 2: How important is the run game and what does that
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  Speaker 2: run game look like?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's no different than Clint Kubiak or
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  Speaker 4: anybody else that comes from the Shanahan coaching tree.
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  Speaker 2: The run game is crucial.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, the passing game was able to keep
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks humming early last year, but they don't win
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  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl without the run game turning things around
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  Speaker 4: in the second half, especially the last three or four
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  Speaker 4: regular season games going into the playoffs. They don't hoist
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  Speaker 4: the Lombardi Trophy without that happening, without that balance, without
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  Speaker 4: that physical presence that really sets things up for you
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  Speaker 4: to be able to win when the weather starts to
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  Speaker 4: get cold and you know, potentially having to play in
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  Speaker 4: the road. The Seahawks didn't have to worry about that
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  Speaker 4: getting the number one seed. But I don't expect it
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  Speaker 4: to be any different with Brian Flurry. He's going to
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  Speaker 4: be running that wide zone. It is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a Shanahan style offense. Ab you see a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more gap running mixed in. You might see more two
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  Speaker 4: backed sets with their run game than what we saw
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  Speaker 4: last year, and maybe a little less reliance on three
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  Speaker 4: tight end sets. It's gonna be subtle things like that,
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  Speaker 4: but they're still gonna be running the bread and butter
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  Speaker 4: of the Shanahan style zone offense.
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  Speaker 2: Final nine games of the regular season CORP mentioned it.
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  Speaker 2: These are the rushing totals the final nine games of
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  Speaker 2: the year, starting with the game against Arizona on November ninth,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety eight, one thirty five, one fourteen five,
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  Speaker 2: one twenty nine, forty nine is the outlier. That was
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  Speaker 2: an Indianapolis game then one seventy one, one sixty three,
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  Speaker 2: and one eighty. So I don't know what the Indiana
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  Speaker 2: and the Colts game. That was just a weird game
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of levels. But let's just talk about
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  Speaker 2: what did happen in that second half of the season
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  Speaker 2: you referred to, Yeah, I think there was a couple
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  Speaker 2: factors here.
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  Speaker 4: For one, you know, you had a new offense and
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  Speaker 4: it was gonna take some time for your offense to
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  Speaker 4: your players to get into sync. And I think you
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  Speaker 4: saw that with the offensive line early in the year
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  Speaker 4: that they were kind of in a feeling out period.
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  Speaker 4: And you had a rookie in grays Abel, you had
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  Speaker 4: really what was a rookie starting at center. It was
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: in the second season, but Jalen Sundell's first full year
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: on the active roster getting snaps, and you know, Abraham
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Lucas had been battling injuries in the previous two seasons.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: So there was a lot of things. There was There
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: was youth, there was russ, there.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Was a new system in play. I think all those
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: are factors. But once you got into the second half
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: of the season and the players really started to mesh
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: with this offense. And then Jalen Sundell comes back from
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: his knee injury. And I talked about this a little
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: bit yesterday, like he was a different player when he
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: came back from that injury.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: It's like those four weeks he was out, he's just like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: What, I'm gonna be more physical and I'm gonna play
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: with more of an edge and more nastiness. And he really,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: to me, was the catalyst that got that run game going.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: And then Anthony Bradford gave them just a different element
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: being more of the mauler to go with the athletic
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: studs they have at the other positions that win with
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: their positioning and their quickness, and they just kind of
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: put everything together. So that's where my optimism lies that
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: they're still going to be able to run the football
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: at a really high clip coming into this season, even
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: with the losses they've had in the backfield.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: The O line is such a big part of that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Corpus Smith Emerald City Spectrum joining us here at the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Beacon Plumbing Hotline. There are six running backs on the roster.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonnaclude the two fullbacks that would be Oots
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and Russell who they list as fullback. So just we
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: talk about the actual running backs half back position. Zach Sharbonay,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: George Lani Kenny McIntosh to Darien Price, Emmanuel Wilson, Jacartia Wright.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Those are your running backs. So six guys, one of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: whom will not be ready to start the season. We
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: assume in Zach Sharbonay that takes us down to five.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: They're probably only going to keep four max right on
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the active roster, and then if they can slide somebody
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: through to the practice ques. To me, it's just a
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: bigger picture. I don't want to quite play roster roulette yet,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: but we'll do it with this position group. There's not
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: a ton of competition there. No, I don't think there is.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think that the player that's got
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the toughest situation that he's dealing with is Kenny McIntosh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: because when he's been healthy.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: He's played really well.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, you look back at the end of the
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season, Kenny McIntosh had some really good
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: games down the stretch for Seattle, but he's just not.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Been able to stay healthy.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: And the fact that he's starting camp on the pup
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: list when he is almost a full year removed from
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: his torn ACL that to me, and we'll see, this
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: could be a situation. He practices pretty quickly and he's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: got to ramp him up. But that did not seem
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: like the kind of update that you would want for
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: guy that is that far removed from that injury, and
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: you added Jennarian Price in the draft to Manuel Wilson,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: who is a more established regular season player than George
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Hallani or Kenny McIntosh, and Halani was great in the
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: playoffs last year, and the organization wasn't it. Just it
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: feels like those three guys going into camp. You know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: we'll see how it shakes out between those three, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: it feels like those three are going to be the
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: backs unless there's an injury there and maybe somebody like
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Kenny McIntosh can play his way back onto the roster
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: as a fourth back if they're going to keep them.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: But I just don't know they're going to keep that
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: many on the fifty three.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go through and talk about these guys as individuals
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and and just kind of what they bring to the party,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and we'll start maybe kind of work our way up
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: from long shots to you know, roster locks. Let's talk
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: about McIntosh again. He's going into his fourth year already
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: rarely he's at health issues two times, two significant ones.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: He's still on the pup. But when he does come back,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: what does Kenny mackintosh bring to this team?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: He's you know, the two things that I think are
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: his best selling points as a back his vision as
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: a runner. This is not a guy that tested great,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: and that's one of the reasons he fell to the
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: seventh round come out of Georgia. But he's got really
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: good vision and that really suits well for this zone
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: heavy scheme. Is one of the reasons I was excited
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: to see what he was gonna do last year before
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: that injury happened.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And the second thing is his past catching ability.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Like this is not just a guy that can snag
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: passes out of the backfield. You can move him out
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: of a slot, you can move him around the formation.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Georgia was able to do that with him, and so
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: that adds another element in terms of the versatility that
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: you have in your offense. Those are the two things
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: that really jump out to me when I watch him play,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: and he plays faster than his testing would suggest. He's
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: one of those kind of guys. I just think that
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: his skill set, though, you just got a guy that
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: does a lot of the same things just way better
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and price very similar running style, but just has to
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: me is a much more talented guy, and that's why
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: he goes in the first round, not in.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: The seventh So that's that's the issue.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: There is the repetitive skill set and the fact that
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: the guy you drafted is just a superior player that's
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: working against him, as well as the injury history.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, looking back at came McIntosh his career,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I mean he didn't he had He was active for
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: three games his rookie season in twenty twenty three, twenty
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: twenty four, he was. He was active a lot, had
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a couple productive games, to be honest with you, is
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: especially the end of the season, the Chicago game when
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: nobody did anything. He had seven carriers for forty six
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: yards and the Rams game, which was a win that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: didn't matter, I guess when it was all said and done,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: but seven carries for forty nine yards as well. Also
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: had one target in that game. So like we've seen
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: McIntosh kind of you know, flash a little bit, but
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the injury and the unser C and d's and all
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: those things kind of come into play. All Right, let's
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: go to the next guy on because I'm just gonna
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: go with you know, kind of last you know, last
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: man standing. Let's talk about Jacartia right again, another guy
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: that was hurt last season. He was a free agent,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: undrafted free agent going into a second year, came out
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: of Missouri State, and we liked him in training camp,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: didn't we?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And I think he is still you know, I did
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: a locked On, Locked On Seahawks. We're doing positional ninety
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: man positional by position bonus episodes this week, and I
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: have him as my clear dark horse in this group
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: because he brings a little different element. He's two hundred
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: and twenty five pounds in that range. He's a bigger
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: back that's got some twitch to him. He you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I think he and Emmanuel Wilson are different stylistically. They
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: both are bigger backs, but Wilson is more of that
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: get down hill, turn on the accelerator and thump people,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: whereas JAKARTI a right, you know. He he's a guy
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: that you know, I don't think he's the athlete that
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Chris Carson was, but I see some Chris Carson in
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the way that he runs the ball, and that he's
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: got a little bit of that, a little bit of
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: that zig and zag to his game to go with
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: the ability to break some tackles and he caught a
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: lot of passes in college.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So he's got that working for him, and.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I thought he looked really good in the one regular
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: season game he played in last year, and then unfortunately
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: he got hurt of that game and we don't know
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: what the injury was, but he didn't.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Play the rest of the season.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: But if he can pick up where he left off there,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: this is a guy that could very much push a
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Manuel Wilson because he's got athleticism, he's got size, he
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: has pass catching ability, so I wouldn't count him out.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I actually think he might have a better chance than
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Macintosh of trying to break through going into this training camp.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: They signed the Manuel Wilson from Green Bay and he's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: been in the league now. This is a year numbernumber
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: four for him, all with the Green Bay Packers, all
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: in a backup role, hasn't had any The only games
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: that he really had any kind of heavy duty carries
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: against Minnesota last year when name slipping me their lead back?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Who was it last year? Helped me out for green Bay?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Who was that last year? I should know? Oh Jacob,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, Yeah, he was there. He had twenty eight
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: carries for one hundred and seven yards, and but at
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: three point eight yard average. Then he had eighteen carries
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: for forty four to two point four yard average. In
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the last game of the season, he had a decent
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: game against Chicago fourteen carries for eighty two yards, a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: six five point nine yards per carry average along the way.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So he's had you know, he had a couple opportunities
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: last season, but he's never really popped. He's a bigger back.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I know just listening. You know, when he was signed,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: listening to Hugh it was he was unimpressed by he
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: watched every one of his carries. I know you've watched
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: all the carries as well. Emmanuel Wilson to me feels
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: like maybe in some ways this year's Marquez Valdez scantling
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: if he's if he pops and he gives you something,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you keep him. Otherwise it's kind of like an easier
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: guy to cut as a veteran.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think that's a decent that's a
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: decent comparison. I'm a little more optimistic about him coming
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: in just because you know, I thought in OTAs in
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Mini Campy, he looked like he had a little bit
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: more burst to him than what I saw on his
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: game tape, and for a bigger back, you know, I
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: think that Seattle's got to have somebody that can handle
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: those short yard his duties. He's never going to be
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: a guy that's going to have a really high yards
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: per carry mark, in part.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Because of how he's used situationally.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: He is that battering ram that comes in on third
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: and one or fourth and one, third and two goal
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: line situations, and that's what they're gonna be missing with
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Zach Sharbonay not being out there right now. That's where
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: he is the best fit for them, and it gives
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: him an opportunity to get a fair number of carries
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: each week when you get into those short yarded situations,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: and maybe he can end up being a little bit
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: more than that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that he's got the ceiling as
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a former undrafted guy.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's got the ceiling where he's gonna
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: be threatening Jennari and Price or if Halani is in
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: the mix for that number one spot, I don't see
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: him being in that mix. To me, he is that
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: situational back that is going to help bridge the gap
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: till they get Zach Sharboney back, and then I don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: know what happens with him when.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Sharbon Ay comes back.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: If everybody else has stayed healthy, then it becomes interesting
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: if there's a fit for him at.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That point, all right, we know what Zach Sharbonay is about.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So I won't get to him. I got two more
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: guys I want to hit to before I get to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the rookie, Jedari in Price. I'll let the president of
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the George Hallani fan club go ahead and talk about him.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: You know, well Rob's not on the phone right now,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: so oh, you're right there with him. And I got
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Rob on Friday, so don't worry. I'll go that. We'll
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: go down that road with him. We'll go down that road.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I know that there we you know, we read our
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: comments on locked on Seahawks, and I know there's plenty
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: few like what's what's with the love.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Affair with Jan And it's.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Like, look, you know George halan Is, he's one of
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: those guys. And I've summed this up before to Ian
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: he I don't think he's got the ceiling to be
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: a starter in the NFL, but I think he can
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: be a really good number two. And we saw it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: We have seen it in the playoff games. And I
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: know a few people are saying all five carries for
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: ten yards in those two games. He didn't get very
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: many opportunities to run the football, but he had a
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: couple massive conversions for first downs on catches in the
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: NFC Championship game, and his pass pro film in that
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl was textbook like. If I was coaching still,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: that would be the film I would be showing high
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: school running backs like this is what this is supposed
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: to look like.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: That is how good he was in that game.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: And John Schneider's gone out of his way to talk
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: about it a few times this offseason. He's been a
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: good special teams player. He just he's one of those
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: guys that just does things right. And we know how
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: much Mike McDonald values that. He's got a little bit
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: of wiggle.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: To him in his game.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I actually think he he's got some Thomas Rawls with
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the way that he runs.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You just haven't gotten to see a lot of it
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: in regular season games.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: He's got a little bit more of that compact build
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: and the ability to if he wants to, to lower
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the shoulder, but he's, you know, Thomas Rawls. Before the
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: ankle injury. One of the things that was really fun
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: about him was he could make guys miss in space.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: He had a little bit of shaken bake.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: George Hallani's got that, and we just haven't gotten to
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: see him carry the ball very much. I just think
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: his third down versatility and how good of a pass
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: protector he is, Like he's.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Gonna get a lot of snaps.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: The question is just gonna be is he gonna be
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: your number one guy to open the season while you're
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: trying to get priced up to speed or are you
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: just letting the first round or just rock and roll
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: right out of the gate.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Halani is the change of pace guys. Well,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I'll just wrap up Halani with this. It's almost it's not.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: There's not the same sort of I guess vitriol or
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: have you that you have towards that people have towards Bradford.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: But I would just say with when you look at
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: this guy and you look at what George, you know
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: what like Bradford and beat him out like like this
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: is the NFL and there's there's no loyalty, Like if
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: they find a guy better, he won't be here. But
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: they haven't found a guy better, and he fits the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: role you just described and that might. And that's probably
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: a Mike McDonald kind of dude. Like I got Holani,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I know what I've gotten. That's one less thing to
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: worry about. It's kind of like how they treat special
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: teams like I don't I just don't worry about it, right,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I got this guy and the way you go, all right,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price. However it is, he's gonna he's gonna have
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to be the rookie for a day or two or
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a week or whatever during training camp, and he's gonna
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: be the second string guy or the third string guy
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: in terms of reps and and we watching the team drills.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: End of the day, he's a first round pick, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: would say it would be a massive, massive disappointment if
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: he's not your day one starter at running back for Seattle.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I feel much the same way, But I'm not concerned
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: that that is not going to happen.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that he I just I.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Think this is a you know, Notre Dame just had
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: a very unique situation where you just you arguably had
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: the two best running backs in the entire country.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: They just happen to be on the same team and Price.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: John Seyder's talked about this, I think that the loyalty
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: aspect Mike McDonald in particular in today's era of nil,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I think that that matters a great deal to him.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Just look at some of the other like Gray's Abel
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: staying at North to State is a really good example,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: and a couple of years ago. I know he's not
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: in the team anymore, they traded him. But Mike Durrell,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: he could have left his Division two school.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But he didn't. Like they love guys like that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: And Jannarin Price staying at Notre Dame to get that degree,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: which is a really really good degree to have from
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: that institution, and you know, knowing he's not gonna be
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the starter, but hey, I'm gonna ride this out.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna finish this journey here.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: And he's double digit touchdown I mean, the guy's got
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: an insane touchdown percentage when he to which is the
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: football like, he's as dynamic of a playmaker as you're
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: gonna find.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: And I've made the comparison.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I know some people have kind of scoffed at this,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: but I see a lot of Sean Alexander in his game.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I see a guy that is a little bit of
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: a glider that is tough to size up, and guys
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: don't take good pursuit angles to him, and he doesn't
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: have the fastest accelerator, but when he gets up to speed,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: he can outrun anybody and has big play capability. I
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: just see a lot of Sean Alexander in his game,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and I think that's a really good fit with this
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: zone offense, that gliding style, really good ball carrier vision,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: get into your spots decisively and then boom taken off.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what he can do in this
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Shanahan style offense with that skill set.
• 32:51
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• 32:59
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• 33:01
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• 33:04
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• 33:06
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• 33:10
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• 33:12
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• 33:14
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• 33:16
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• 33:57
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• 34:01
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• 34:02
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• 34:03
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• 34:07
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• 34:08
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• 34:11
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• 34:14
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• 34:16
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• 34:19
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• 34:23
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• 34:26
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• 34:30
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• 34:31
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• 34:34
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  Speaker 3: Here.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, we're gonna check in with
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the Godfather, Dwight James. I have a Portland, Oregon my
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: former colleague in a lot of ways. I worked in
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Portland in sports talk radio for five years at the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: fan down there thirteen twenty Kate Nole was it ten
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: eighty of the fans? Sorry, I worked at two fans
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: in the day. Try out two fans the fan thirteen
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: twenty k fan in Salt Lake in ten eighty. The
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: fan in Portland anyway worked. But Kevin Dwight and I
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: worked together on Blazer broadcasts on Comcast sports Net when
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: they first moved to Comcast Sports Net. You know that company. Well,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you were working up here. That's where we first met
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Mogor back in the day when he was up producing
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the stuff for Softy Show, when he was on TV radio.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: On TV was Softy and we.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Had a number of shows at the station. Yes, we
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: cycled through that time slot there. Who did it besides
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Softy Softy we had was Brewery and Jerry Lison Jerry. Okay,
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: we had Spike and Jerry. Oh god, we had Chuck
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: and Puck. Oh wow, you had all I thought it
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: was only Softy. Really that many shows did TV shows.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: We kind of just went with whatever k jr. Was
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: doing and that time slut cycled through a bunch.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Never any Infernest show. I see, no. Actually, I there's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a reason I said no. I remember that. I said no.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And look at you now. You're on YouTube. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: we're on YouTube. Hey, YouTube, Yeah we're on YouTube. Well,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: because I was already working for me, I said, I'm
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: not giving you free TV. Yeah, you can pay pay
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: for me to go down to Portland and New Blazer stuff.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You can pay for that. Got away with that. So
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like the one time, and that's the one time I've
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: got away with something like that in this business anyway. Yeah,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you did that for a while. So Dwight and I
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: did the Blazers pre pre and post post games, talking
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Ball and Ripsity Live, our shows that we did before
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the games and Home and Away, and Dwight and I
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: worked together for about five and a half years. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: guess down there Comcast Sportsnet, so for us it's kind
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: of personal seeing what's going on down there. Not just
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I was ever a Blazer fan. I grew up in Seattle,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the Sonics fan. If I was being honest, I probably
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: rooted against them all the time, even when I'm you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: even though it made the job easier if they won.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: But I had great respect for the fan base and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: for the fans down there. The Clayton Bennett Playbook, The
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Clayton Bennett Playbook is still in full force with this
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: new owner, with Tom dunn and the new order the Lazers,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: who also owns the Carolina Hurricanes. Please please please do
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: not connect a Stanley Cup win with Tom Dunnan being
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a good owner. Okay, bad owners win championships too, that
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: does happen, So do not connect the two.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Please.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: But they've just They've got all kinds of changes going on.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: They got a huge battle with the city. I'm still
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: curious the timing of it. Is it going to screw
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: us up here in Seattle. We're not getting the Blazers,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but does it mess with the expansion timeline. It's just
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a morbid curiosity too, with what's happening, because in so
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: many ways there's a similarity between Bennett and Dundon in
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: terms of how they handle things, buying a team coming
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: into a market and having absolutely no respect whatsoever for
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the fan base, as Bennett did here in Seattle, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the market and the longevity of the franchise, the equity
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: of the history and all those things. And then today,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: last night we found out that the Blazers broadcast team
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: was getting just absolutely purged people you know, people I
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: know from of ours. And then we find out today
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Kevin Cloudborro telling Joe Freeman from The Oregonian just a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: little while ago that he's stepping away from Blazer's broadcasting.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna call games anymore. So our legend up
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, Kevin Claubro case is out. They're not sure
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: what's going on. It sounds like Travis Demurg, who's doing radio,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: is out. But then they also said in a statement
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: that they're not gonna simulcast games. So basically, if you're
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: a college student and have some tape of doing like,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you know, women's soccer at Green River Community College or
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: something along those lines, you may want to send your
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: resume tape to Portland. You're gonna make nothing money wise,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: but they're gonna hire somebody because Casey's out. Travis, I
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: don't know. That doesn't sound like he's gonna move to TV,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and he may not even do radio, So if they're
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: replacing both those guys, Kevin said very simply that this
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: is a quote from Joe Freeman in The OREGONI and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the team and his veteran played by play man had
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: to have been discussions on a new contract, but he
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: called the offers quote subprime, and he's gonna move on.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Dwight up here, maybe well or two
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: years away from that, but we'll check in with White.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Jaan's next.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Now from the Star rentals Sports to us Jordan ninety
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• 40:19
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• 40:28
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• 40:30
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• 40:33
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• 40:36
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• 40:40
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• 40:43
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• 40:46
  Speaker 2: from ESPN and the NFL Network, are maybe getting closer
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: to a massive contract extension oxymated off for Ruppers of
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: thirty million per season. Right now, he's making ten point
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: one cool triple your salary. Wouldn't that be fun? Chief
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: have unveiled rend rings of a three billion dollar dome
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: stadium to replace what used to be called Arrowhead. I
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: don't know what they call it. Now they have some
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: weird name for the Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. There
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: would be a dome though, which is kind of takes
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: away some of the funny Kansas City doesn't with all
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the cold weather as well. Sounders tonight taking on Austin
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: six nine to fifty. Is that right, six forty pm.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: It's a late kickoff, right, late kickoff six o'clock pre
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: game six to forty. Yeah, they moved the game back
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: in Texas because it's hot there, much like water is wet.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Weird.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we move on our number two. Well, they call
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: him the Godfather, and when I got the Portland in
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: two thousand and two, I found out why he's the man.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: He's the king of all things media in the city
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: of Portland. Ourman, Dwight James, joins us right now on
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing hot line. He's got a substack you
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: need to go check out. Has done it all down there,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and he's covering the chaotic situation that is basically the
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Clayton Bennett playbook being executed by Tom Dundon over the
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Portland Trail Blazers. Dwight, how are you, my friends?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I'm good. It's always a pleasure to be on the
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Beacon Plumbing hotline with you. Ian. I'm like those pro
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: wrestlers to walk into the rig and the first thing
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: and they said it's great to be back, and they
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: get the big round of applause.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Well I heard the glass. I heard the glass breaking
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and the music playing in the background somewhere, and here
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: he is walking down the isle. It's Kevin Collaboro. I'm
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: out that news.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just got off the phone with him
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: a few minutes ago, and uh, they he you know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: his contract expired in June and he's been talking to them,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: but they never really made him an offer until I
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: think this week, and as you might expect, the offer
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't up to snuff. So he's going to be back
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: in Seattle and hopefully the voice of the Sonics when
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: they come back in a year or two. So that's
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: what I'm hoping. Anyway. Good guy, great guy, and good
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: friend and great broadcaster, as you guys all know in Seattle.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: So that's the situation, and we have as it stands
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: right now, as far as I know, there's no broadcasters
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: under contract. Travis Demers has been doing the radio for
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: seven years and his contract expired in June two, and
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: they're talking I think, but I'm guessing if Travis comes back,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: it'll have to be a lower figure. And the people
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: are saying maybe they'll simulcast. There's not many teams doing
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: that anymore. You think you're going to save money by
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: not having to pay broadcasters, but always it always changes
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: on the advertising side of it because it limits your
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: advertising possibilities. So I don't know what the going to do.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: That's just one of many questions that we're ruminating about
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: here in Portland right now.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Ian, Yeah, I guess they did just release a statement
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: saying they're not going to simulcast. But like you said,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: they're not going to simulcast. But they're TV guys, not back,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: they're radio guys. On our contract, they basically purged and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: got rid of most of their television staff in terms
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: of hosts and analysts and everything else that many of
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: whom are friends of ours that we worked with when
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: you and I was talking to Travis Moger here Melgar
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: are producer today, It's like those are a lot of
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: those people where people that Dwight and I worked with back,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you know, fifteen eighteen years ago on Blazer Broadcast and
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: on Ripsity Live and Talking Ball and had been there
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: for a long time, did it with a passion. We're
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: frankly underpaid. Then we're underpaid now, and I think you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and it just first of all, and this is this
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: is an interesting week, right with all the stuff that
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: happened at ESPN, this happens on a local level as well.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: And you and I have both been through this, right,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: We've both been through the Hey, we don't need your
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: services anymore. It doesn't make it e I've luckily only
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: been through it once and it was when Abby Chin
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: told me she was replacing me on the Blazer broadcast
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: stuff on Talking Ball and I'm like, well.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: The network, no, no, no, I was.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I was down there doing get ready to do a
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: show with you, and I tried to put on a
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: happy face and she says, I'm gonna shadow you and
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: watch how you do it today. Because I'm I'm like, oh,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: that's that's nice. So all these things haven't changed in
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: that regard. But the I look at what's happening, and
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I want to say the broadcast side for saying, because
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I think it will get to the where this team
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: is and how it could affect expansion and delays. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: we know the NBA doesn't like to multitask for sure,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: but it does speak, does it not to what we've
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: talked about? You and I have a couple of times
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: now I've talked about on the air. This new owner.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: He is I call it the Clayton Bennett playbook, whether
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: or not he really wants to move the team or
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: not out or know, but boy, he does things on
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the cheap. The front office has been purged, maybe some
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: say inflated, but you have one pr guy left. Nobody
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: really knows that person, I don't think. And then you've
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: got real your whole broadcasting staff, which Dwight Broadcasting raises revenue.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: You just talked about it. What is this guy doing?
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know. And obviously he's a penny pincher, but
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: uh and we known that from hockey. But here here's
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: the unique side to him. I've been around a long time.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I've never met anybody in business or in sports business
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: who doesn't really give a rip what anybody thinks to him. Now,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you evidence of that. As soon as he
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: put Devin year old Sparky on the Stanley Cup. Yes,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: we knew he didn't give a rip what anybody thought.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: He's putting a little guy's name on the cup. That
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: was just I couldn't believe it. Absolutely couldn't believe that.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: You wrote his whole family.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and left a player they should have been on
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: there off didn't play the whole season, but he was
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: eligible to be on there. And he left the longtime
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: equipment manager who was retiring off as well.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: He was elder your equipment manager. Yeah, I left him off.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that. That just tells me all I
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: need to know about the character. And if he doesn't,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: there are no ties. Now here's the thing. It takes
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: two to tangle. We all know that there's but he
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: has no ties to the city of Portland. And you
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: wrote a substack article and I think it's city of
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Portland has never learned how to keep or get pro
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: sports and they may be paying the price. So let's
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: take a step back. Where are they with Because for
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: this to actually work in Portland, they have to, if
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, renovate the Motive Center. And if they
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: do so, then he gets everything he wants, then more
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: than likely they sign a new lease or what have you.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: And the team stays. So where are we with that situation?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. I do believe they're going to
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: have to cave in and sign and gree to his terms.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: He holds all the cards here. And I think though,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: the one thing is if they give him that, he's
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: got to sign a twenty year lease. And I think
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: that is a must. And I think the league will
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: tell him that, you know, and the league will also
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: tell him if he gets what he's demanded from the
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: city board of governors is not going to let him move.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: They can't do that. They can't tell municipalities in their
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: league that they can just defy the city that's giving
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: them money and go somewhere else. That's not the message. Now.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: The message they will send is if your city doesn't
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: pay for the renovation of your arena, if they don't
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: want a part of that, they'll let him go. I've
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: been told he's already been green lighted. If the city
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: doesn't sign his contract on his terms, that they'll let
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: him go. Now, what people are saying in is there's
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: no place for him to go. There's no cities. I've
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: read that from people who I thought knew what they're
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: talking about the thing is he has three years left
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: on the lease. That's plenty of time to find another
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: place to go. And you know as well as I do,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: how these things work. Some city is going to step
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: forward with the checkbook and write him a check for
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: whatever he wants. They'll build him an arena, they'll modify
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: the arena they already have, they'll roll out the red
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: carpet to get him. Because cities want the NBA like
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: they want MLB, they want the NFL, they want the NHL,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: they want all of these things. Portland has never learned
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: that lesson that if you want to sit at the
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: big boy table, you're gonna have to anty up. You're
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: gonna have to pay for that. And they don't seem
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: to understand how Paul Allen built that arena for him,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: And you know, they're not even willing to pay for
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: the renovation of it. Come on, now, that's silly to me.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: And it's not as expensive as building the new arena,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: which he could have walked in the door and said
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I want a new arena, and that would have been
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: a whole lot tougher. But this city, and you know
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: what kind of financial straits we're in down here and
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: all the corporations that left the city can't afford to
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: lose that team. The heart and soul of the city
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: will be damaged. And those arenas aren't ever meant as
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: money machines. They're never going to make you a lot
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: of money. But the value in having these teams is
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: the intrinsic value of having some place where your citizens
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: can go to enjoy themselves, have a good time, unite,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: meet people, and just have some fun with the United costs.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Just like you know, you build libraries, you build performance centers,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: you build concert halls, you build all those things as
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: amenities for your city. But Portland's never understood the sports
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: piece of that.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Neither is Seattle, by the way. They've always had to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: be relying. You've got them all though, Yeah we did,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: and it's been a battle. I mean, we got a
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: brand new you know, basketball slash hockey arena thanks to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: to the y Wikis and and and you know oak
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the Oakview Group and and so forth. We you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Paul Allen saved football here with a last minute Hail
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Mary to get loom And Field built, and obviously tea
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Mobile was a battle just to get that thing done
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: as well, and we've all gone through that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I do find it interesting when people say that too, like, oh,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: there's nowhere to go. I'll I'll just point out Bridgetone
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Arena in Nashville, and everyone wants to be in Nashville
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: right now. Dwight, you and I both know that Nashville
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: is where everybody wants it is right now. It's crazy. Well,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Bridgetone Arena, which I went to I did. I called
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the Cracking Game there a few years ago. It felt
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: very old, it's loud, it's cool, it's next Broadway, it's
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: a perfect spot. All those things are fun, but it
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: needed some work. Well, you know what, they're doing a
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty million dollar renovation that can be
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: done in the next couple of years to get that
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: thing up to snuff for not just the Nashville Predators,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: but who knows what else could go. I mean, there
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: are places they can go. People that say there's no
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: place to go are foolish in that regard. Does the
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: city at Portland to the city Council, do they give
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: a rip about that at all? Does that concern them
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: at all? That there are opportunities? He does have some leverage.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Ed. We're still in that. We're still in that part
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: where they're saying, why should we pay for a billionaire
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: to have a toy, you know, And it's that all
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: same old thing, you know, because he spent four point
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: two billion on the team. That's why you're going to
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: have to do it. And you're going to have to
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: do it to keep the team here. It's just and look,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody in town likes Tom Dundan. I'm
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: not a fan of his. I think this is extortion,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: it's blackmail, whatever you want to call it. It's not fair.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: But these are the rules of the game you're playing.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: You know, you pay up or they kick you out.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: You know. That's just kind of the way it is.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: And I don't see a way out for Portland without
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: you know, agreeing to his terms. Now, maybe I'm wrong,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's just bluffing with all this stuff. We'll see,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: but then you're gonna see the other side of it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Two yen. They got help from the state and the
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: county on this, but if they don't do it now,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: if they don't do it by the end of the year,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: that money goes away. And so any further renovations, the
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: city would be stuck with all of it. So do
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: the smart financial thing and do it now where you
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: have the state is set to pay more than half
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: of the cost of the renovation and they still don't
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: want to do it.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, is the city so that Dwight James Joning
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: is from Portland, Dwight, the city then would have to
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: like so like the state money would go away. The
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: building is there. They're not going to demolish the building.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: So if they move the Blazers or they don't come
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: up with a deal with Dundin, then as you said,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the city's going to be stuck with the entire bill
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: because it's certainly is going to come back and say
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: we're going to help you out without a primary tenant
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: in the NBA. Right so so, but but everything I
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: see from from the city down there, it sounds like
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: they gave an offer sheet that nobody that that he
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't like and he has he wants no part of.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's a counteroffer that two of the the council
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: members and only takes three votes, are are putting forward
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: that is cutting back on some of the city money.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Would that mean, right, that's the that's the count county money.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: That's a different that's.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: A different pile of cashow.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: And part of that is that they've wasted so much
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: time that all of a sudden, now the county's getting
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: cold feet on this. The state is operating under the
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: same principle as what they're going to do for a
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: baseball team, if they ever got a baseball team, and
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: that is the funds will come from the state tax
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: paid by the athletes, the coaches, the front office, people
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: who make more than like seventy five thousand a year.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: It's not going to cost any of those people extra
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: money or you or me extra money. It's just going
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: to come from the tax they already have to pay.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: But guess what if the team moves, you're not getting
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: that money anymore. You know that that that tax money
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: goes away. So really you're not you know, the state's
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: not losing anything by by giving the team that uh
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: that money or giving the city that money. So it's
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: it's really the simple Matthew is sign the deal, give
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: him the money he wants, and move on. But uh,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: they get too emotional about who he is and what
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: a jerk he's been and all that, and you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: nobody likes to see popular people, like you said, the broadcasters,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, losing Kevin Collateral is a big loss.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: They've already let I mean, we had Neil Everett doing
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: pre and posts, you know, a former ESPN guy. We
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: you know, we have Michael Holten doing stuff, and they're
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: all gone. Travis Murr is no contract, and I don't know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen, but you're alienating
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of people, and so that makes it tougher
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: to get this signed. If he had come in a
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: little sweeter, it might have been an easier deal to make.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: But he doesn't seem to care. That's why I think
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: maybe he wants to move it anyway. He doesn't mind
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: alienat in Ole City.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the impression. That's where I go back
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: to the Clayton Bennett playbook, because when Clayton Bennett came here,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: he did the song and dance where hey, let's maybe
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: build a building in Renting, and they had renderings drawn
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: up of that building in Rented and down where the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: landing is now and stuff, and maybe even in Taquila.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I remember doing a radio show when I was doing
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: the Night show. We did a show from the legislature
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: in Olympia when he went down there, and he brought
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Bill Russell and Lenny Wilkins with him down there to
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: speak to try to get state funding for a building.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: He like the thing with Bennett is as unlikable and
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: his intentions were from the start to move the team.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: But he at least went through the process, you know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: and tried to and did that and dance. This guy's
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: not doing any of that. But what you just said
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: is true. Like, here's the thing that cracks me up.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: First of all, for people don't know or Oregon does
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: have a state income tax right now, not a millionaire's tax,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: of state income tax that everybody who works in Oregon.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Like whether you live in we all pay yeah, whether yeah,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: whether you lived in Vancouver like I did when I
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: lived there. I lived in Vancouver, Washington and Ventucky there,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: but I still paid the state income task because I
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: was working in Portland. You pay that tax. But like
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: the taxes from the workers, the athletes, And doesn't the state,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: city and or county all benefit from events and ticket
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: prices and all that stuff as well?
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course yeah they do. And you know, and yeah,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: there is the economic benefit, although all those economists will
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: argue with you is that it doesn't bring any economic
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: benefit that people just instead of spending their money on
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: going to a show or a movie or whatever, they
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: saw it into sports. But that's that's not entirely true.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: I spent a lot of baseball money, major League baseball
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: money out of state right now that I wouldn't spend
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: if we had a Major League Baseball team here. I
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: can guarantee you that. And so, you know ian the
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: thing is, there's also that value that it brings emotionally. Yes,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: right now, the Blazers are kind of the heart and
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: soul of the city. There's not a whole lot else
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: to hold on to. And you know how it is.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, how important are the Seahawks to Seattle's well being?
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Right now? People are feeling pretty good about themselves right Well, it's.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's the part with you know, we went
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: through the same nonsense when the Sonics were leaving about,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: you know, listening to mostly politicians and then you know
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the economists that they would hire that would you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: give them the report they wanted, you know, because you
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: can slant that stuff any way you want, But we
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: would hear that all the time about like, well, you
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: know it doesn't bring this no economic impact and things. Well,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: if we take that, I'll come back to that a second.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: But Dwight, it's what you just said, the emotional bond
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: that people have, the community pride that people have, and it, yes,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl's extreme, but having five hundred thousand people,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: you know, twice in the last fifteen years, you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: up and down the city streets for a Super Bowl
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: championship parade, or watching what happens when they're taking a
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: playoff run, watching what happened last year when the Mariners
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: were going through there their run, right, and what that
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: meant to the entire city everyone. If you're just a
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: fringe baseball fan, you're watching, You're into it, you're excited
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: about it. Hell, I'll go back three years ago and
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: the crack and made the playoffs the one time that
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: was the first time since the Sonics left that we
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: had a springtime when the city was alive. Everyone's on
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Lower Queen Anne for the first time since the Sonics
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: playoff series in the early two thousands. It was crazy.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: And the whole thing, Dwight, that drives me most insane
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: is the lack of economic impact. I could call my
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: guy Gary and Justin from the Occidental Beer Hall which
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: is right next to Lumenfield, and ask them about, jeez,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: was the World Cup beneficial to you guys at all?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Like I don't. I drove by there, we did shows
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: down there. It feels like you sold more beer than
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: you have in your entire life, right, I mean, tell
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: me it doesn't have an economic impact.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, I know, I know. It's just I'm
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: so tired of making that impact because they or that argument,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: because they keep bringing these so called experts in to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: tell you how wrong they are, and they got all
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: the data and they got all the stuff, but it
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't agree with what you see with your own eyes.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: No, you know, no, No, it doesn't have to make sense. No,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: it does not. If if you guys had a baseball team,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be going to wherever you go, or people
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be coming up here to Seattle and going to games.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: If you had an NHL team, that cracking wouldn't be
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: broadcasting games down there in Portland, right, I mean, it's like,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: let's go through like right, all those things are happening,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: so end of the day, the biggest thing dwight to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: wrap it up is this, despite all of the ill will,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: whether it's you know, firing half of your front office staff,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: whether it's purging your entire broadcast apartment, many of whom
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: is the Michael Holton's have been there for twenty plus years,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and others Jamie and others that work their way up.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: I just I'm heartbroken for people like that. She worked
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: with us, she's behind the scenes with us. That's awful,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: all those things, despite all that ill will, in your mind,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: the city should just say, hey, what do you need,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Let's get this thing done. We don't like you, you
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: may not like us, but we need to keep this
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: team here. Is that basically the bottom line. They need
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to get this thing done.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: That's been my position from the start ian because I look,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: if you're in business, and it's a business. If you're
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: in business, sometimes you have to do business with people
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: you're not quite in love with, you know. But if
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: it's good business, you make the call and you do it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: And this guy, believe me, he's not involved in this
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: because he loves Portland or even loves basketball. I don't
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: even know if he likes basketball. He's in it for business.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: He's been very clear. I'm not Paul Allen. This is
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: not my hobby. I'm coming in there. I want to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: make money off this. He inevitably will when he sells it.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: I wish he'd sell it tomorrow, but he's not going to.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: But that's the way it is. And this guy's a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: businessman and you can hate him for that. But if
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: you want the team to stay here, I wouldn't gamble
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: on thinking he's bluffing. I would not take that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Gamble, Dwight. One more quick, one real fast. How culpable
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: is Jody Allen in this or was the NBA as
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: much to do with it in terms of who they
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: decided to sell the team to.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I think she's a hidden villain behind all of this.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: He and honestly, they had a great offer from the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: family in California that owns the Fire and the Thorns,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: and they had a very legit offer, just barely under
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Dundon's offer. But when you put the two groups together,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: here's one group that already has two teams in Portland,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: obviously cares about Portland. The synergy between these teams would
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: be wonderful to have the same owners, so they could
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: cross promote, they could do all kinds of things, and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: instead you sell it to a guy from you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: basically from Texas who owns a hockey team in Carolina
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: and now he wants this basketball team in Portland. And
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: he's got a reputation to being a penny pincher. So
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: wrong move. And I think she's still got a part
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: of this franchise. You keep hearing these rumors that she's
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: still got a piece of it, which she shouldn't have
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: because it was a trust. She's never an owner of
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the team. If she is now, I see that as
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: a conflict of interest. So I don't know, you know,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: I just I was never a Niamo Jodie. I never
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: She never had a press coverence in the seven or
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: eight years where she was running things. Burt Cole didn't neither.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: But I've had my dealings with Bert and as never
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: a fan, I am on a fluff though. At the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: championship Super Bowl parade head off, Yeah, he was pretty happy.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: He was a big part of it. I'm sure.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, you and me both. I've got stories
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: going on days with him from the times we share
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: some things from the old areas we do, and then
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I got I was lucky enough to run into him
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: here for fifteen years the Seahawks as well, so good times.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: A few words for the godfathers the Substack Substack Dwight
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: James dot substack dot com. Go check it out. He
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: has some great work there, fun stuff, buddy, Great talking
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: to you. Thanks for spending some time with us today.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Thanks you. I'm always a pleasure to be on with you.
• 1:04:20
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's just wild how different cities have
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: perceptions of different people owners, what have you. That's why
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I asked Dwight at the end about Jody Allen, and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: you know he's right. She wasn't truly the owner. She
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: oversaw the trust that owned the team, But I mean
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: she was the acting owner for all intents and purposes
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: of both the Blazers and the Seahawks, and you know,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: having talking, you know, since twenty eighteen when she took
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: it over along with a guy by the name of
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Burke Cold who is Paul's buddy from college. You know,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: like it's it's Jodie's perception in Portland is so bad
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: and just so negative. And yet up here when I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: would talk to people with the Seahawks, they were effusive
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: in their praise for her running the team and overseeing everything. Now,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: when I say running the team, she wasn't doing it
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: on a daily basis, but she had regular contact. And
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: you know, we've told the stories on the air. We've
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: heard this from Schneider, We've heard it from Pete, We've
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: heard it from Mike McDonald. She had regular contact and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: conversations with the people on the football operation side to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: check in. And I'm sure that was the case on
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: the business side, probably even more so with Chuck Arnold
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: and company. And they just did a great job.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: But she was in it.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: She was active when need be, she came up. He
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: had some of the biggest decisions in Seattle sports history
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: that all proved to be perfect. She was the one
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: that ultimately decided you need to move Russell Wilson. He's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: become a problem. He's trying to get people fired. He's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: trying to get people out of here, you know, Pete
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: and John. And then ironically enough, then time to make
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the decision on do I go with John or to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: go with Pete. I'm gonna go with John, and we're
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: gonna make a move and get rid of a super
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: winning coach like she. She had to make really difficult
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: decisions for a team that, you know, since Schneider took
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: over in twenty ten, has been humming along really well,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: like they're have. I don't have the numbers in front
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: of me, I dare to say they're probably if they're
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: not the most successful team since twenty ten when he
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: took over, they're in the top three probably for sure.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: They've got two Super Bowl championships. And I know that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: the Patriots had that run. The Patriots also had seasons
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: that were abysmal along the way where they didn't have
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: those you know, Schneider's were seasons were like with seven
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: and nine. So they this this whole deal now down
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: in Portland. She's taking a lot of the heat and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: the blame. I still think the league is culpable. They
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: they should have stepped in if she had some sort
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: of vendetta or some issue with the city of Portland,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm gonna stick it to you, and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Dundon's gonna buy the team and not the people from
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: the Bay Area that on the NWSL team and the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: w NBA team in Portland. That's that that should have
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: been a league thing. That should be Adam Silver should
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: do that at that point. But none of us really
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: know the inner workings of how that went. I just
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: know that up here in Seattle, you know, we're living
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: in a different world than Portland. In Seattle right now,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: there is certainly, and for good reason, some consternation, some
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: concern about the new owner of the Seattle Seahawks and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: this family that's coming in that we really don't know
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: much about. I did. People will find this funny. I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: had a great conversation with our buddy John Lund yesterday
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: after the show when I was driving home, and he's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: gonna from Bay Area guy, and he's gonna he's gonna
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: kind of jump in a little bit and do some
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: make some calls. Well, God, we're gonna have two straight
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: weeks we're serious conversations with one. But he's gonna try
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: to find a little bit more out about the family,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: what to expect. As he pointed out, you know, the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Seahawks owner is their one little dip in the water
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: with a professional sports organization was a pretty successful one
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: because it was the forty nine ers. Good organization. We
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: don't like them at all, obviously, but good organization, great ownership.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: So he'll jump into that. But we have that concert day.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I feel the stress. I understand why because frankly, with Joe,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: it worked with Jody. I mean, in the Allen group,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: they worked. God, that's been a hell of a franchise
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: since Paul Allen took over and then Jody took control afterwards. Meanwhile,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: in Portland they're worrying about losing their team, and rightfully so.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: And I just I feel so bad for those guys
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: down there. I mean, we joke Portland sucks, and you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: know we hate the Ducks and all these other man
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: We've been there, We have been there. It's awful. And
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: you know, one thing we had and I don't think
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: it helps, It doesn't make it, didn't make it hurt
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: any less. Losing the Sonics because we had the Mariners
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks at the time, and now we've got
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: an NHL team, and obviously we've got other teams. Huskies
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: are here in WNBA and HL, et cetera. But it
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: it is more significant to port than in Portland. That's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: all they have. And Dwight mentioned it and having worked
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: there and you worked at least on the periphery from
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: their travel. The Blazers are the Seahawks and then some
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: to Portland and not the Seahawks in the nineties when
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: they almost moved the Seahawks today, and the Blazers have
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: been got awful for a while. They finally got to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: the postseason this year, but they've been bad for a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: while and they're kind of on the up and come,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: and for them to possibly lose a team would just
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: be it just be catastrophic. I think the NBA, I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: just I know we want them back. I want I
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: want the Sonics back. Don't get me wrong, I want
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: them back. God, the NBA is broken right now. It
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: is such a broken broken league. The ownership situation in Portland,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: the situations and a couple of the smaller markets right now,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: like Memphis, teams that just can't find a way to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: get better in a bunch of the smaller markets. I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: saw a big story of today the Chicago Bulls continue
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: to just be abysmal. That's one of the biggest markets
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: in the country. That's a legacy franchise, at least it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: was for a while when Mike was there and Scotty
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: was there. But you look at some of those issues.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: You have one player holding an entire league hostage before
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: they put their schedule out in Lebron James with the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: TV schedule and stuff like one guy like that is
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: a broken league, like a really broken league. We want
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: back in, but boy, they need some They got to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: do some work and they got to do some fixing,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: and it probably starts important. I didn't get into with Dwight.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: But my other concern obviously here as we watch the
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: stuff from Portland from AFAR, is selfish because I don't
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: think this league likes the multitask. I don't think they
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: like to do that. I don't like to they like
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: to have open ended things happening and then trying to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: do something else big at the time. You know, for
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: a long time we heard so much about well, I
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: don't know if we can if we can expand when
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: we've got the other stuff going on with European League.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Well that's kind of died down now. Maybe expansion is
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: kind of on more of the forefront by the end
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: of the year. But are they going to be able
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: to expand to two cities when they don't know what
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: one of their other previous thirty cities is doing. I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: don't trust Adam Silver at all.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I don't believe he has the wherewithal to do those
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: two things at once. So that's why the Portland thing
• 1:11:41
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• 1:11:43
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• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: the Blazers TV play by play easy decision not worth
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: my time, which is sad because it's a great roster
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: and the people there are great.
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  Speaker 3: Wow wow wow wow. Thanks.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: So just here's here's what you need to know about
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: that owner.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Two Hall of Fame broadcasters left because of him, John
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: FORESLN and Carolina, And we benefited from that here in Seattle,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: which is awesome. John's I love the guy. He's awesome,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: fun teammate, great teammate. I love working with them. I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: owe him a lot from this past season. And and
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: he's he's I think he calls the best game in
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: the NHL. And I don't know if there's a close
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: number two. To be honest with you, and Kevin collaboral.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I've thought that since day one when he was working
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: with Bob Blackburn. He is a legend and he is phenomenal,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: and this guy let him go. And your broadcasts are
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: your window to the world. You're the window to your
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: fan base, like just ridiculously you don't value that. Plus,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: if you're not making money, like if you're not generating
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of revenue off your broadcast, then that's a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: you problem, Like that's not the broadcasters problem. You generate
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: good money with better people. It just it makes absolutely
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: no sense what he's doing. But the how about what
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: does it do for Seattle. Well, it does make it
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: easier when we get a team in two years, in
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: the fall of twenty twenty eight. It makes it a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot easier and a hell of a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: lot less ugly and nasty to have Kevin come back. Right,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: so we're not taking him away. He doesn't have to
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: have any kind of rough split right and say, well,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I really I don't want to, you know, rock the
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: boat or whatever the case. I like, he will be
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: easily hired here, assuming he doesn't go to another NBA team.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Who knows, I mean, maybe san Antonio is looking for
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: a guy.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: If you saw the san Antonio with the Spurs. Yeah,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: their TV play by play was messing around with one
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: of the players sisters. Apparently that didn't go over too well.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal was, but yeah, so
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: he got turfed. So, I mean, the Spurs job is open.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Who knows what else is out there. Plus it's Kevin collaborough.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: If I'm running the team, I'm like, I've bring Kevin
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: in first. Yeah he would, but he also should be
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: doing national games, to be honest with you, like he
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: should be doing He should be doing national games.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I've long thought or long kind of wondered why he
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't do more. He used to do a lot more
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: ESPN playoff games, ESPN Radio playoff games. I've long wondered
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: why I did more. He's that good and he should
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: be doing more along the way. But it does make
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: it easier for us. I think we've all kind of
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: assumed when we get the Sonics back that Kevin will
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: be on the call on the TV side from day one.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long he'll do it. He's just
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: turned seventy, so but looks fine to see him. He's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: playing golf. He had suffered through a golf tournament with
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Benton the other day, and if you can survive that,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: then he must be in good health. He must be
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: in great health. He's got to be in great health.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: The other thing four nine, four five one to come
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• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: to touch on real fast. I brought up last segment
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: the whole perception of Jody Allen, my perception of her,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: my understanding of Jody here. I think she's been a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: fantastic steward of the franchise owner. Whatever you want to
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: call it for the Seahawks. You know, does she get
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: credit for the Super Bowl? I think a little bit.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: She made the decision got repeat hire Mike, and I'll
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: let Schneider hire his guy, and that guy was Mike McDonald.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: I think that's like a good owner allows good people
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: to make decisions, but also has to make hard decisions
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: along the way. She did that, so, you know, for us,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: I think when you talk about a Seahawks Super Bowl win,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: you have to talk about Jody Allen. But down in Portland,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: it's just a whole different perception. I don't know what
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: and I always say that, and I hear a lot
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: of immediate people in our market talk about Jody as
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: well in that regard with kind of some high regard.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the fans think of her. Part
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: of it is. I hear Dwight say this, and it's interesting,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: you know, well, she never even spoke to They never
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: held a press conference in Portland since you know, Paul
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: died and she kind of started running team No. But
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: she didn't do that here either, Like we heard from
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: her when when they won the Super Bowl and she's
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: on the podium taking the Lombardi trophy. Right, that's when
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: we heard from her. We never heard from her here either,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: and you know, it would have been nice probably to
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: hear something from her. Would have been nice to hear
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: from her during the McDonald, Pete Carroll, John Schneider transition.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Was it necessary maybe not. Would have been nice to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: hear from her. Not in necessary. But things here have
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: been going swimmingly. Things down there have not been going swimmingly, right,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit different perception up here. But
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: that is a funny quote from Kevin. Easy decision, not
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: worth my time. And that was the same thing with
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: you four, like you want a low ball guys that
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: should be paid at the very top of their profession.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Good for them stepping away, and good for Casey. So
• 1:18:11
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• 1:18:15
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• 1:18:18
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• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: One of the things as we head into media days
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: with college football, which are taking place, some have already
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: taken place, some are taking place. Big ten is next week.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: PAC twelve did not hold a media day, which whatever,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: don't really care. Those things used to be a big deal.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I think maybe in the SEC they're a big deal.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know how big a deal they are in
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: some of the conference at Big twelve is a big deal.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: A lot of con to a lot of a lot
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: of back and forth between brett Ormark, their commissioner, and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of media people. But regarding the Cincinnati and
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Brennan Sorsby thing, but we'll talk about mediadays, but more importantly,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: confusing time in college sports, very confusing time. And what
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: do I mean by that? This this world we're living
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: in right now with college athletics nil and transfers one thing,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: But what about realignment and is the SEC really serious
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: about breaking away? And what the hell does that mean? Like,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: what does that look like if you're going to quote
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: break away and go on your own. We'll talk about
• 1:19:15
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• 1:23:06
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• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: but in the, MEANTIME i want to get to a
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: couple of. Things ONE i mentioned the media days BECAUSE
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: i is confusing time for a lot of college football.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Fans one thing that's not. Confusing we've always had media,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: days although the new, conference which is the old, conference
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: didn't have. One what was your thought on THE pac
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: twelve not doing a media day and this their first
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: year the REVAMPED pac.
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  Speaker 6: Twelve, HONESTLY i didn't think it was that big a.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: Deal Now i'm not the world's biggest media days. Fan
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: the only One i'm going to is The big ten
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: they're mostly a circus at the major. Conferences BUT i
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: have been to The Mountain West Media days In. Vegas
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  Speaker 6: this was a couple of years ago BECAUSE dak twelve
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: was there, too And god bless them for doing. It
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  Speaker 6: but you, know you could count the number of media
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: At Mountain West Media days very easily with your. Fingers
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  Speaker 6: so if The pac twelve felt like it was going
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: to be kind of an AND i heard for to
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: say they're very, expensive and she's, right, LIKE i can't
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: even imagine how much it cost to put one of
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: those things. On so they felt like the media turnout
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: wasn't going to be that great, anyway THEN i don't
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  Speaker 6: know that it was the world's biggest.
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  Speaker 2: Issue, well then they can turn into a little bit
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: of a circus, too like you, said for a lot of,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: reasons The big twelve had a little bit of a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: circus with brett Yor mark and a reporter and you
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: get you get those things going down to and some
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: of those things. HAPPEN i want to get to THE
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: sec for a, second BECAUSE i mentioned it's a confusing
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: time in. Call it's been a confusing time SINCE i
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: guess due to this all start With oklahoma And. Texas
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: just WHEN i WHEN i say, CONFUSING i mean there's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of levels of. Confusing there's, realignment there's are
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: we breaking? Away what's the College Football playoff look?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Nil can we pay? Players can we? Not is there
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: a salary? Cap all those? Things did the confusion really
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: start With texas And oklahoma moving to the big to THE?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: Sec what's crazy is if you look back to the
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: summer of twenty twenty, one all of these things happened
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: within a couple of months of each. Other, yeah most
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: Notably july, first AND i all became. LEGAL i think
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: ten nine or ten days before that was the often
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: decision at The Supreme. Court oklahoma And texas left announced
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: they were leaving for the or broke at secbdia days
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: that they were leaving In. July and there's another Thing i'm.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: Forgetting but the point, is like everything about the sport
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: changed in an instant in twenty twenty. One and so you,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: say did the confusion start WITH Ou? Texas, yes in some,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: ways because that was just one of many seismic changes
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: that happened that.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Summer, yeah and, then of course what happens with THE
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: usc AND ucla and that, starts you, know the domino
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: effect over the next twelve or fourteen. MONTHS i guess
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: it was with THE pac. TWELVE i want to get
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: to this you guys talked about on the. Audible i'm
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: glad you, did And i'm also still a little Bit
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: i'm going to use a term, again. Confused not that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: you guys didn't do a good job with, it BUT
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: i think a lot of fans are kind of wondering
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: what the hell Is Greg sankie talking about with THE
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: sec breaking away from THE nc DOUBLE. A it's not just,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: hey we're going to break away and be a standalone, conference,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Right there's there's a lot more to. That let's just
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: kind of take it for what it, IS sec breaking
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: away from THE nc DOUBLE. A what does that truly?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Mean and how likely is?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: IT i don't think that scenario is particularly. Likely Even
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: Greg zanki himself tried to clarify and, say that's that's
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: not what we're talking, about, Right they're talking about frustration
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: with just the complete inability of THE ncaa or now
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: THE csc to regulate everything from eligibility, cases you, know
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 6: salary cap you know portal like every time THE nca
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: tries to put in a, rule somebody sees and it gets.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: Overturned AND i do think That Brendan soursby thing was
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: a big flashpoint this summer of, like wait a, minute
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: if they can't even enforce, that what are we?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: Doing?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: Right so what THE sec keeps talking about, is, well
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: maybe just do our own, rules you, know maybe we
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: will have rules that are JUST sec and and we
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: investigate and we, enforce and, well we don't have to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: wait for you, know eight thousand other schools to sign
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: off on, it OR i mean we would only we
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: wouldn't know until somebody actually. Sued but the thinking is
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: they would not be as susceptible to these anti trust
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: suits because you're not closing off all of college football
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: to recruits are, Transfers and SO i get, it BUT
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: i also wonder how you guys really thought this, through
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: because if you do, that and if your rules are
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: at any way more restrictive than The big tens or
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: even THE acc Or big, twelve isn't that putting you
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: in a huge. Disadvantage they actually had a rule back
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: before everybody could transfer and play right away and only
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: grad transfers. Could they had a rule within THE sec
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: that within THE, sec at, least you, know one school
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: could not take a grad transfer from the other and
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: the guy to play right, away he would have to
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: sit out a. Year and they eventually got rid of
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: it because well then that just meant those guys that
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: couldn't make that move were going to school as in other, conferences,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: Right and it seems to, me if you're the only
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: one doing, this the same thing would.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Happen you're protecting your own brand at that point in
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: your own. Conference you, Know i'm protecting each other in
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: that sense with that transfer rule for sure along those
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: ways with THE. Sec so when they say breaking, away
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: they're not talking, About, hey it's just going to be
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: us and then there's gonna be three other power four
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: power conferences and then The group of five and we're
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: going to play for our OWN. Cfp that's not what
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: they're talking about that at.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: All there are people within THE sec that think they
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: would want to do, that that think that would be
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: a great.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: IDEA i think.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: Great thankye though is very aware of the RAMIFICATIONS i
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: would have for like that might make sense in, football,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: right ALTHOUGH i don't know how you can claim you're
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: playing for national championship if you're not playing the other.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: Conferences the basketball teams need to be part of the nca.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: Tournament all the other sports need to be part OF ncaa,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: championships and they know. That so as much as like the,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: INSULAR i, mean you're when you're in that room In
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: tampa this, week but it used to Be, birmingham you
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: would think THE sec is the only football conference that
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: exists for, Real and AND i don't doubt like that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: would still. Be they would still have the big brands
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: and they would still play the big, games AND i
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: think people would tune into that to some. Degree but
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: WHERE i think you lose the plot entirely is nobody's
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: going to consider your champion to be THE sec to
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: be the national, champion and nobody's going to consider THE
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: cfp champion to be the real national champion. EITHER i
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: think where it would become a little more feasible is
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: if The Big ten did the same thing. Too THE
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: sec said we're breaking away, entirely and The Big ten, said,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: oh we are, too and then they would be free to, say, like,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: well we'll just stage of playoff between the two of. Us,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: right we already have all the, team most of the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: teams that compete for national, championships and we can go get.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: More we can just go Add clemson Or state and.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: Whatnot SO i think that's the nuclear, option AND i
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: don't think it's given it by.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Anyone Suer mandel fan the athletic joining. Us, YEAH i
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: was just going to ask, you what Is how would
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: you describe your relationship with The Big ten in THE
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: sec as it stands right now here in the late
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: stages Of.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: July they don't agree on, anything is really what it
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: comes down. TO i think ever Since Tony pettiti came
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: to The Big, ten they have drifted further away from each.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: Other and you, know THE cfp being the obvious. Example
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: you might have heard people say in THE sec this, Week,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: hey we we we feel like we Got. Duke when
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: we signed up for the nine game conference, schedule it
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: was with we were told it would be we'd be
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: going to a sixteen team playoff and that hasn't. Happened and,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: WELL i think that's a little over. SIMPLIFIED i, mean
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: there's lots of reasons they're going to a nine game.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: Schedule they're not wrong that The Big ten initially wanted
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: a sixteen team, playoff if you, remember with four bids
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: for them and four bids for THE sec and two
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: for The big twelve and two THE ac. Team it
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: was wildly unpopular and it didn't end up. Happening but
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: THE sec was willing to go to a sixteen team
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 6: playoff where it's just the sixteen best, teams just as
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: they are willing to do that still. Now and as
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: soon as they came round to, that The big ten
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: move the goalpost and, said now we've changed our. Mind
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: now we want twenty. Four AND i think THE sec
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: right now is not interested in. That maybe that changes
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: at some. Point AS i said on the, AUDIBLE i
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: really hope THE sec gets the number of teams in
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: the playoff this year that they want and doesn't get
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: because you, know with the nine game schedule like half their,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: teen they're gonna have another, loss. Yep and if their
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: nine to three teams are getting left out for teams
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: they think played a much weaker, schedule they are going to, say,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 6: WELL i guess we need a bigger, playoffs Which i'm
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 6: not a fan.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Of, nolan you AND i are going to have that
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: conversation as here goes on we start seeing those losses
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: that right hand column with the loss that loss, column
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's going to be an interesting one for teams
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: across the, country especially you know in THE sec with
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: that added. Game interesting how they want to make their own.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Rules but they actually kind of caved into the pressure
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: from other conferences, saying, hey you guys have to have
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: non conference. Games you can't be playing you, know AN
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: fcs school In november while we're, playing you, know WHILE
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: usc is having to travel and Play indiana or something like.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: That so they kind of actually in some ways cave,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: in not cave, in but they finally went down to
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: that nine game. Road but you're, RIGHT i think people
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: forget the. Math if you're playing that ninth, game that
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: extra conference, game half of those teams will have a,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: loss and some of those, Teams, stewart are going to
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: be good. Teams.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: Right part of believe it was At Big Tom Media
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: days a year ago That Kurt signetti made that. Name
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 6: they ask, him why are you canceling all your power
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: for non conference? Games why are you playing nobody at a?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: Conference he, said, well it's AN scc scheduling. Philosophy AND
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 6: i was there AND i. Couldn't it was In vegas
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: actually last, year and how many different coaches in The Big,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: ten some of them since, fired complaining that they play
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: nine games and THE sec only plays. Eight so THE
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: sec stands, fine will go to nine and they require
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: a Tenth power four game.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: And The Big ten.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: Doesn't THE acc And big twelve have that. Requirement so
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: The Big ten has gone from complaining that they have
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: it so hard to now having the loosest edrain requirement
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: of any of The power four, conferences Which indiana and
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: a few other teams take full advantage. Of you, Know
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: indiana is going to continue to play three past season
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: until they they are told they.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: Can't SO.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: Unfortunate BUT i don't, think As eli Drink with, said
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: that's the reason they won three straight national. CHAMPIONSHIPS i
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: can't think of anything that has less to do with.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: It, YEAH i agree as to A Mandel. Jody's you,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: know one of the things is we talk, about you,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: know having the same rules and playing on the same level,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: field and you know it's all football. Centric yet there's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: other sports that are out. THERE i was talking to
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: my Buddy John canzon on the other day and you,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: know he's, like, well you know there's a there might
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: be a push from The big ten that and maybe
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: the other the other Power big ten in THE. Sec even,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: hey let's get more. Geographic there's push inside THE nc
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: that let's get more geographic for the non football sports
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: or the non revenue. Sports maybe it would include, basketball
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: would just include all the other. Sports AND i was
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: thinking to, myself if You're Gloria navarez with The Mountain
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  Speaker 2: west Or Teresa gold with The pac, twelve or any
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: of the other conferences that have had teams leave and,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: loose you, know take, off why would you, say, yeah
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: we want our volleyball teams now to be Playing big
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: ten teams in, conference in a pseudo. Conference And, Stuart
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: i'm old enough to remember when baseball on The West
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: coast wasn't THE pac. Twelve it was like The Pack
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: northwest or The Pac west or whatever the hell was,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: called because it was all because not a lot a
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: lot Of packed twelve schools didn't even have baseball. Teams
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: oregon didn't have a baseball team till a few years.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Ago and they did. That they've done it for wrestling
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: and other. Sports but why would those smaller conferences then
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: welcome you, know the non revenue sports back.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: IN i think if you're, GONNA i, mean first of,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: all it's very. Theoretical, YEAH i hope they do go
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: to a more regional, approach BUT i think if you do,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: it it wouldn't just be as simple As, okay all
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: these teams go back into The pac twelve and all
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: these teams go back into this conference like there ARE i,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: mean you have now you have leagues that have teams
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: in them for other sports that are just for that,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: sport and some of them don't make any g your apical,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: sense to be, Honest BUT i think there's creative ways
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: to do. That maybe you, say these conferences are just
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: they are just football and basketball, conferences and we're going
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: to create some new or regional ones for the other.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: Sports it's one of those things that makes total. Sense
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: so they'll never do, it, though or they'll never get
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: around to doing it because everything were so slow in college.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Athletics, yeah glacier pace at. Times one thing that doesn't
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: move at glacier, paces of, course would be the coaching.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Carousel it's, early we haven't played a, game we haven't
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: gone to camp. Yet you wrote about it in your mail.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: BAG i thought it's very. Interesting let's talk about some
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: of the bigger. Coaches it may or may not be
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: on the hot. Seat you guys talked about it on
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: the audible as. Well let's just go down The clemson
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: road for a segment With Dobbos Sweeney dabbleswee is a
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Legended clemson but for what what? Reason it hasn't been
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: the same. LATELY i think you might have made them
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: comparison To Bobby. Bowden he's a lot younger Than Bobby.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: Bowden but what needs to, happen what could happen At
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: clemson over the next couple of. Years is there any
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: chance that they would make a coaching move or are
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: they just going to be okay with him being.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: So so.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: They certainly don't want to make that coaching, move both
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: financially and just because they he's been so important to that.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: University and LIKE i said in the madil, bag if
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: he goes if it turns out last year was a
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: blip and it ends up being somewhere Between, mickey maybe
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: they're not an annual NATIONAL championip contender, anymore but they're
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 6: winning ten games and they contend in THE acc and
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: the occasionally go to the. PLAYOFFS i think he can
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: coach that for as long as he. WANTS i think
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: the problem is going to. Be, okay you've gone four
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: and four in THE acc to the last three, years
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: and by the, way they lost all their best players
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: from last season's team that went seven and. Six if
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: seven and six is now the norm with all the
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: money you haven't in, football with how much the rosters,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: COST i, MEAN i don't think any school can accept that.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: Anymore Florida state put up with that for almost a
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: decade With Bobby bowden before they, finally finally finally pushed him,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: out and even then there were a lot of people
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: that didn't want to do. THAT i don't think you can.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: WAIT i think the money is too there's too much
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: money invested in these programs at this, point especially WITH,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: nil to just sit back and, say, well we're going
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 6: to be loyal to the, sky even if it means
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: we're five hundred team. Now so like this, YEAR i
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: don't think there's any scenario where he would get fired
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 6: at the end of this coming. Season but if it
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: if it's another mediocre five hundred this, year, boy then
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: you really have to start asking those questions going into
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: the following.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: Year it kind of feels like Like. Dobbo and then
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: also before, That Mike, gundy who's obviously not At Oklahoma state.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Anymore those are two of these, longer longer tenured coaches
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: that were very reluctant to accept the new, world the nil,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: world the transfer portal, world and things like. That Obviously gundy's.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Out Is sweeney any better with? That is he starting
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: to embrace things like like other coaches have across the,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: country or is he still just kind of doing his
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: own thing.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 6: All the big, difference first of, all is That gundy
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: just absolutely. Employed they've lost eighteen straight conference. Games he
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 6: started to take some. Transfers he hasn't you, Know he's
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 6: not loading up like maybe some other teams, are but he.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Started to take some.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: Transfers BUT i don't think it's just as simple as.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: THAT i, mean he's he's made some questionable staff hires
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: over the last few. Years he is bringing Back Chad,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: morris who is HIS oc when this when the when
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: the whole run got, started, Right so that's a good.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: Sign and, then you, KNOW i think recruiting has changed
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: and you can't just pick and choose who you want in,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: recruiting because sometimes those guys are going to go wherever
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: the money is the. Best So i've said for this
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: for a couple of years. Now you're really getting two
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: types of coaches now in college. Football the ones who
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: why in complain about the portal and, loyalty and guys
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: making too much money just just all the stuff right going.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: On those guys tend to be the ones that end
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: up getting.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: Fired.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: RIGHT i think Of Brian, KELLY i think Of dundy
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: a couple. Others and then there's the guys Like Kurt
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 6: signetti who, say just tell us what the rules aren't,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: now and we're gonna that's what we're gonna.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: Do.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: Right you don't hear him complain about you don't Hear
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 6: Dan landing complain about. It you don't Hear Kenny dillingham
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: complain about. It kind of this next generation of head
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 6: coaches who are like, whatever like Well i'm the best at,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: evaluating or we have money and we'll just we'll just
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: do what it. Takes and you, know that's WHY i
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: noticed THE sec media is. Today John sumrall had a great,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: answer and they asked him about this is the New florida.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: Coach John sumrall came From. Tulane you, know they asked
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: him about eight versus nine conference, games which EVERY sec
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: coach gets asked about at some, point and he, said,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: Hey i'm not going to whine and complain about being
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: AN sec head, coach as in, like no, excuses no comp.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: Just just go out and. Kick SO.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 6: I Think dabo has reined it in a little. BIT
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: i don't hear him quite. SO i, mean there was
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: a time a few years ago where he was, saying
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: if this becomes professional, Football i'm going to leave right
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: if the players get. PAID i don't think it's quite that.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: Anymore but you, know it's not great when your head
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 6: coach is going up in acc media days and you're, asking,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 6: hey why has the program slipped over the last five,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: years and he's talking about and he's reciting his resume
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: from how great they were a decade.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Ago i'll wrap it up with, this my Friend Stuart.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: Mandel i've got, relatives a lot of family on my
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: wife's side In, alabama SO i always have to ask
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: about our former coach In seattle calein the board down At,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: alabama how are things going for him down there as
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: we wrapped UP sec media. Days the expectations you guys
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: mentioned on THE i think it Homes bruser Or ralph
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: kind of touched on, it like the advantage That alabama
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: used to have doesn't have anymore because now when everybody
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: can get. Paid And i'm not Saying i'll beam paid guys,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: before but you used to Be, hey you go To,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: alabama play for stave and win a national. Championship, now,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: guys are you, know going across the. Country where CAN
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: i get a check and win at the same. Time
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: how are things going for kal and heading into this?
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 6: SEASON i would say things are a little awkward because
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 6: of the way last season, ended, Right, like on the one,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: hand they won eleven, games they went to the playoff,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: like good for, them but getting their bus kicked and
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 6: By georgia and THE sec championship and then now of
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 6: Course indiana and the Rose ball did not sit. Well
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: NOW i Think greg burned the alabamad getting out ahead of.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: This that's.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 6: Possible hot seat talk went ahead and gave m an
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 6: extension and raised the, spring which was a pretty. Definitive,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: Hey i'm sticking with this, Guy like there's no there's
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: no hot seat. Here the guy just won eleven. Games in,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 6: fact the reason he did, that in part was because
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 6: he had some leverage Because michigan came after. Him, so,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 6: uh he's Not he's not on the hot seat at.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: All now if they go six and, six fans are
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 6: gonna try to put him on the hot. Seat they're
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 6: not going to be happy with. HIM i talked one
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: in the spring and he was saying how this is
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 6: a really young team that they have coming in this,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 6: year which is obviously an exception these. Days so he's
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: very bullish on them for the. Future but while he
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 6: didn't say, This i'm just reading between the lines acknowledges
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: there could be some growing pains this.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Year you know who might be on the hot, Seats
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Greg burn for that. Contract if there's a struggle this, YEAR.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: I would agree with.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: THAT i won't get into The michigan. Stuff i'll let
• 1:42:23
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• 1:45:07
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• 1:45:40
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• 1:45:47
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• 1:45:53
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• 1:46:26
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  Speaker 2: really kind of got sick and then he kind of
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: went a. Remission then he and obviously got sick, again
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: but that was More Burt coled. Move paul did whatever
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: man he spent into the salary cap tax threshold every
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: TIME i can remember WHEN i was, there he did.
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  Speaker 2: That paul was. Committed he wanted to. Win he was
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  Speaker 2: at every damn, game every home. Game he was at
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  Speaker 2: every home. GAME i MEAN i probably missed five in
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: my six seven years there or five six years there
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: in sports, radio and he was there at every game
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  Speaker 2: THAT i can. Remember he was committed to. Them jody
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't it, fine but she was committed to The. Seahawks
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: she was definitely committed to The. Seahawks let's, See portland
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: should let The blazers leave and dump all that money
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: into getting AN mlb. Team, GOD i should investigate.
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  Speaker 3: That that's actually.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting not the problem is they still have the Albat
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the issue we had here With Key,
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  Speaker 2: arena is that you still have this, building city owned
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: or what have. You you have this, building it sits,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: there and if it needs renovation and needs, work if
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: it's not, functional you still have it. There you want
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  Speaker 2: to have that primary tenant. INVESTED i still Believe portland
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: would be in PHENOMENAL mlb. Town, GOD i wish The
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: a's would have moved there if we would have, Had,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: god give me An American league team In. Portland how
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: awesome would that be for a rivalry with The? Mariners
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: like we don't have a, Rival like we don't have
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: a rival Like San diego's not not even the same,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: league but they're not a. Rival we don't have a.
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  Speaker 2: Rival toronto maybe sort of just because all The canadians come,
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  Speaker 2: down but they, yeah and they kind of they kind
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  Speaker 2: of are like. That but EVEN i Think toronto's probably
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  Speaker 2: thinks of like somebody besides us as a, Rival yankees or,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: whoever and even this and this year felt. Weird this
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: year was a weird series here, too because they played
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: it in over The fourth Of july, weekend so there
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the normal juice that we have leading up to.
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  Speaker 2: IT i, mean we could say it's THE us Against,
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  Speaker 2: canada the big. CROWDS i get, that but, man we
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  Speaker 2: just didn't we didn't have. It it just wasn't as
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  Speaker 2: fun this. Year this is interesting one, four two, five
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  Speaker 2: with the turnout The seattle have with The World. Cup
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: with that turnheads at THE nfl to have The Super bowl,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: HERE i don't. THINK i don't think there's ever been
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: a question about whether or not they they believe this
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  Speaker 2: is a GREAT nfl, market great a football. Town for
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: them to bid on The Super, bowl The seahawks would
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: have to be on. Board, now maybe with ownership they would.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: BE i know this previous management ownership they wanted no
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: part of A Super. Bowl they wanted no part of hosting.
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  Speaker 2: That SO i DON'T i don't think. SO i don't think.
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  Speaker 2: i'm out of here at two fifty, Four, Buddy i'm,
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  Speaker 2: Gone i'm out of. Here don't give, them don't give
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  Speaker 2: him a. Chance, yeah don't give them a. Chance make
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: them call, you make, them make it hard on, you on.
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  Speaker 2: Them you, know that's the easiest way to do. It
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  Speaker 2: just make it hard on him as. Well what's the
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  Speaker 2: opinion of done in putting his family members on the, Stand,
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• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: mean just keep. Going is there a more, spineless powerless
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: commissioner in the history of sports Than adam the crypt Keeper? Silver? Baseball,
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  Speaker 2: people if you ask That chuck powis sitting, here you
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  Speaker 2: Say Rob. Manford BUT i Think silver is the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: ZERO i truly believe. THAT i think he is an
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  Speaker 2: absolute goose egg on every. Level of, course we'll celebrate
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  Speaker 2: him when we get THE nba back there a couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Months let's. See that's good for, now all? RIGHT i
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  Speaker 2: Sure, okay well we'll check you. Out we'll find. Out
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  Speaker 2: coming up next already, then ladies and.
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  Speaker 10: Gentlemen here he is day right Then, hey just checking
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 10: everybody still has jobs here right this radio, station you
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 10: know that making sure because they saw what happened down
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 10: there in Port so THE espn stuff happens On monday Slash, tuesday,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 10: Right Ryan Clark monday, night and then The ravitch.
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  Speaker 3: Was, Yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Rabbits they waited till he finished calling The phillies And dodgers, game,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: right and then told him the next. Day but, yeah
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: that that came out and then for people to missed,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: it and we talked about we Had Dwight james on.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: Earlier not only Is kevin collabro, out but basically their
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: entire broadcast not named Brook holsendam's Absolutely portland and that's
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: just what we've. Seen well we went THROUGH i, mean
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: we just went through it too. HERE i, mean christ
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: about your buddies up In vancouver And. Vancouver, yeah it's
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: awful and it's just it's, brutal that hue inside of,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: it the business side of, it softy THAT i don't
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  Speaker 2: get with The blazers and or other teams like individual.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Teams that's your that's your conduit to the fan, base,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: right that's your marketing tool to F is there a
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: better marketing tool than Having Kevin collaboro call a? Game,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: no there's.
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  Speaker 10: NOT i mean he's obviously not as beloved down there
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 10: as he is up, here, Right there's no question about.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: That but he was, beloved, RIGHT i mean he was
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: very high, there very popular he.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 4: Was he was.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 10: Appreciated down there for. Sure and the thing With kevin is,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 10: THAT i mean he hasn't called a game up here
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 10: in twenty. Years, like if you're in your mid, twenties you.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: Know no idea. Who my kid doesn't know.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Who.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 10: Right he's Like Bob blackburn in some, ways for you,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 10: know the previous. Generation i'll bring A Bob. BlackBerry i
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 10: barely Knew. BOB i, was you know, what nine ten years.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 10: Old Bob blackburn used to live On Woodwidge hill WHEN
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 10: i was a, kid And i'd see him running around
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 10: and jogging and blah blah. Blah and that was back
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 10: in the day where you could pull your car over
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 10: and say hi to. People, yes now you do, that
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 10: you're getting shot if somebody's calling nine to one.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: One but you get my.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 10: Points SO i think it'd be great to have him
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 10: back up here some former fashion you. KNOW i mean
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 10: there's an opening AT ub right. Now obviously that makes
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 10: from Basketball John, YEAH i might, listen you.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: Know.
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  Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean, look, MAN i MEAN I i love the.
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  Speaker 10: GUY i think he's the best basketball Broadcaster i've ever
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 10: heard on, radio you. Know AND i say radio Because
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 10: Kevin harlan's DOING, tv so you KNOW i love him.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 10: Too by the, way there was a point in time
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 10: Where Collaboro, Harlan Kevin, Wall we're all three working. Together
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 10: And Tom, lee the OLD pd here AT pjr that
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 10: hired me back of the. Day all of them were
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 10: together In Kansas. City it's, incredible, man how these guys
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 10: just all fanned. Out but the reason WHY i bring
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 10: up To portland thing is because this is an example
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 10: of a guy THAT i don't think EITHER a doesn't
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  Speaker 10: care OR b just doesn't get the culture.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: Locally.
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  Speaker 10: Right he's From, TEXAS i, believe originally went to school
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 10: In New, YORK i, think and owns a team In. Carolina.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 10: Correct he's got no connection to THE pnw at. All
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 10: so it's just another thing to keep an eye on
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 10: with The kostla. Family you, know do they get the culture?
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 10: Here do they Understand. Seattle do they get what's important
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 10: to us up here In, Seattle because IF i were
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 10: to talk to the, FAMILY i would, say, hey, look,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 10: guys the only thing that's important to me right now
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 10: is you just let McDonald And schneider do their. Job
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 10: As millan said On Friday, show close your, mouth open your.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: Wallet that's it.
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  Speaker 10: Simple and they got a great chance when they do
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  Speaker 10: their press conference when they WHICH i think they'll do,
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  Speaker 10: one maybe they, Won't maybe they won't do a press.
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  Speaker 2: Conference pierce is going to, say, hey you know, what
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  Speaker 2: we got away with that with twenty five years out
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  Speaker 2: to doing.
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  Speaker 10: IT i, mean Did i'm trying to remember when the
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 10: vote officially went through And paul took.
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  Speaker 2: Over as the. OWNER i wasn't here SO i. Couldn't,
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  Speaker 2: YEAH i. Don't it was thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: AGO i don't.
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  Speaker 10: Know if he did a press, conference did make some public,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 10: statements Didn't he? Didn't, yeah because he, said, Look i'm
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 10: only doing this if you guys help me pay for, it,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: Right and that was that was the.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: Deal and you know it was he was.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 10: Smart made it a statewide thing and not a county
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 10: wide thing because a lot a lot Of hawk fans
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  Speaker 10: in Eastern, washington as you.
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  Speaker 2: Know BUT i just hope that they have that same
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  Speaker 2: kind of.
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  Speaker 10: Mentality, man they come out and, say, look there's no
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  Speaker 10: need for us to put our footprint on this or
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 10: any of that. Nonsense this is a thing that's running
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 10: like a well oiled. Machine all we can do is
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 10: just sit back and let the great people that run
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 10: this organization the way they do continue to run it
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 10: and give them everything they need to keep the train.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: Going that's WHAT i want to. Hear, yeah AND i
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: THINK i think the biggest difference is the biggest difference
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: is plural would be one Dund and bought a team
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: with building that is in. Disrepair that's he basically bought
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: not quite key, arena but pretty damn. Close like they
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: they they need massive work done on the on the.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: Building that's not the case. Here, also he bought a
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: team that's in a. Rebuild now they're on the up
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: and come like they're they're definitely on the up and,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: come but they're not the DEFENDING nba champions like The costo.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Family bought a team that doesn't need doesn't need a
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: stadium and has a lease and, oh by the, way
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: coming off.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 10: A Super bowl and the thunder make the finals like
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 10: three years or four years after they left.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Here first year they were also even three.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 10: Years how far away are The blazers from doing something like,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 10: that you, think BECAUSE i would suck for, Them not
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 10: THAT i give a damn about, them but that would
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 10: suck for.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: Them, WELL i, MEAN i, mean wouldn't we look at
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: it like this is it? Is it Is Damian lillard still? Good, no,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: okay not not enough to carry a team to a.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Title then they're probably they're probably at least three years. Away,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: WELL i, mean here's the red. Flag Mattist sibele just
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: left for three million. Dollars, right there's a mean it's
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: not good anymore The. Lakers there is a part of
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: me knowing how Many blazer fans are Also dug. Fans
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: OH i, KNOW i. Do listen you six small six
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  Speaker 2: son of a.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 10: Gun, Well i've said it on the air many many
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 10: times That i'd rather have an expansion, team but if
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 10: the only available option is, them Then i'll take.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: Them, yeah but here you are from. Me i'll take.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: Them but a, guy a guy like that's not going
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: to come and want to be a tenant For Sam, Hallway, right,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: right there's just.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 10: Like like a guy's pinching. Pennies, well he's not going
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 10: to want to do. That Can zono's going to be
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 10: on at, Six AND i think he's thinking the same
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 10: way you are. That, hey if they're, moving they're moving that,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 10: way like, Well East Coast.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: Way there's a very Separate North Bridge Stone arena In
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: nashville where everyone wants.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: To, go a.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: Place it just got A Super bowl awarded, too, right,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: right they're undergoing a seven hundred and fifty million dollars
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: renovation to the. Building, wow what do you think? That
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: what do you think that the thought process is? There,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: hey we want to make sure the predators are. Happy
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: can Can tennessee have TWO nba? TEAMS i don't think
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: it matters with the. STATE i think it just matters the.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 10: MARKET i think team two hundred miles away that apparently
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 10: nobody wills on to play At everybody Rips memphis and Even.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: Lebron, yeah well so now they're going to put a second.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 10: Team can you Imagine tennessee Having Tennessee you and me
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 10: growing up as basketball fans And tennessee's got two?
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: TEAMS i Can here's WHAT i can Imagine nashville having a. Team,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: yeah that would worry. Me all, right what are you doing?
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: Today petril trust is back at. Four florio's on at
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: three ten. Today he's been revved up This. Yeah Larry,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: Stone Larry stone will join.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 10: Us good day to have him on after what's going
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 10: on down there in Team.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: Mobile and Then Johnny cans at six o'clock. Tonight so
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: and again welcome everybody who just tuned in the last half.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: Hour that's right for the mild mannered and marginally Objectionably.
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