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Browns Recap, Colts Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we break down the Steelers'
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Speaker 1: loss to the Browns in Cleveland, look ahead to the
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Speaker 1: matchup against the Indianapolis Colts, and then we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk through what went wrong with Joey Porter Jr. in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nick DiTullio, and as always, I'm joined by the
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Speaker 1: world-famous accountant Eric Vamenschoten. Eric, how's it going today?
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Speaker 2: You know, you might hear me, I'm a little raspy,
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Speaker 2: but you know what? I'm always here for my fans, and...
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Speaker 2: I do it for the love of the game, baby. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Never let it be said that we are not committed
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Speaker 1: and that we don't care about the fans or the Steelers.
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Speaker 1: You are here and, frankly, fighting through symptoms of astronomic proportions.
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Speaker 1: You're probably laying on the ground right now, struggling to
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Speaker 1: make it through, but we appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: I have Steelers-level amounts of problems, but I'm able to persevere. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, in your defense, though, you did not lose to
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, so you've got that going for you. Oh,
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Speaker 1: my goodness. Let's just get into it and talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Very disappointing game on Thursday. The Steelers go into Cleveland,
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Speaker 1: and they do not get the win. It was a
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game, so it was a short week against
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Speaker 1: a division opponent coming off a divisional game as well,
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Speaker 1: where the Steelers... played what we thought was their best
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Speaker 1: game in quite a while against the Bengals they come
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Speaker 1: into Cleveland and it was interesting to me because that
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Speaker 1: first drive that the Steelers had they ended up getting
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Speaker 1: a touchdown which was great it was a very long
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Speaker 1: drive too was sustained with the help from a couple
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Speaker 1: penalties but some timely conversions they get on the field
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Speaker 1: and the Browns could not do anything right in the
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Speaker 1: very beginning of the game. And I was thinking this
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Speaker 1: is going to be pretty easy. I mean, despite our issues,
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Speaker 1: and Lord knows we have them, the Browns are the Browns, right?
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Speaker 1: I fell victim to that mentality. But then they turned
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Speaker 1: it on in the second quarter. They had some turnovers
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Speaker 1: that they generated.
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Speaker 2: And.
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Speaker 1: Really they– did a 180. They were able to move
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Speaker 1: the ball. They were getting big chunk plays on the ground.
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Speaker 1: And the Steelers couldn't really do anything to stop them.
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Speaker 1: The second quarter, the Browns had 21, scored 21 points.
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Speaker 1: That's really the bulk of where they got all their
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Speaker 1: points was in that quarter. They only had two field
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Speaker 1: goals outside of that, both in the fourth quarter, one
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Speaker 1: of which would be the one at the very end.
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Speaker 1: But Just a heartbreaking game, and I think you put
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Speaker 1: it best when you said that they just dug themselves
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Speaker 1: too big of a hole, and that's absolutely what happened
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Speaker 1: in the second quarter. It became insurmountable, and even at
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Speaker 1: the very end when the Steelers did tie it up
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Speaker 1: with what, was it maybe a minute or so left
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Speaker 1: in the game, the defense just couldn't stop them, and
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a 56-yard field goal to get
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Speaker 1: the win. We can dive in a little more, but
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Speaker 1: let me ask you, what were some of your takeaways
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Speaker 1: from this performance on Thursday night?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it was a.
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Speaker 2: It felt like it got kind of ugly quick. You know, we....
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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, the second quarter was a change of
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Speaker 3: the tide, so here's the what the result of our possessions,
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Speaker 3: us and the Browns. Interception by us. Touchdown by the Browns.
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Speaker 3: Punt after getting five yards. Touchdown, 74-yard drive by the
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Speaker 3: Browns in four plays. Missed field goal by Boz. 11-play,
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Speaker 3: 62-yard touchdown by the Browns.
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Speaker 2: We got a field goal. I mean... Even Boz, you know,
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Speaker 2: missing a 48.
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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not blaming this on Boz.
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Speaker 2: He is afforded plenty of goodwill.
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Speaker 3: To miss a 48-yarder in Cleveland. I know that's not
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Speaker 3: an easy place to kick either. But, you know, there
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Speaker 3: were a lot of things that were going wrong. And
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Speaker 3: to me, I think the worst part about this was
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Speaker 3: you just saw a lot of frustration.
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Speaker 2: And sometimes it happens.
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Speaker 3: Like middle of the season where things are running a
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Speaker 3: little bit higher, things have been mounting, frustrations of going
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Speaker 3: through a losing streak are getting to the team.
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Speaker 2: But we entered this game 2-1, coming off our best performance.
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Speaker 2: And then we have Aaron.
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Speaker 3: Rodgers and Mike McCarthy's exchanging FUs to each other, which,
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Speaker 3: that was an interesting take from this week. I guess
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Speaker 3: the referees also were FUs.
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Speaker 2: During this week. So tensions were high everywhere.
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Speaker 3: But, you know, I just thought, like, between that and then,
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Speaker 3: I think really telling, T.J.
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Speaker 2: Watt got on the headset. And from what it sounds like, You.
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Speaker 3: Let Patrick Graham know that he was not a fan
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Speaker 3: of his game plan or his play calling. In my experience,
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Speaker 3: I feel like he's always been pretty reserved.
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like he is a leader, but I
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Speaker 2: don't feel like he's ever been critical publicly.
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Speaker 3: And again, publicly, he was on the sideline, got caught
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Speaker 3: on a hot camera and They showed it, so it's
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Speaker 3: not like he's going on a press conference saying this,
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Speaker 3: but I think my biggest takeaway from this is there
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Speaker 3: is some turmoil that.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing.
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Speaker 3: This team does not have any kind of cohesion or momentum.
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Speaker 3: There's fractures on the offensive side, defensive side.
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Speaker 2: And unfortunately how they've utilized Boswell.
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Speaker 3: He's now missed three field goals. because we're putting him
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Speaker 3: at disadvantage on our field goal try.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: But, you know, that will also affect him with his
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Speaker 3: confidence when.
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Speaker 2: We do need him, right? So I think.
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Speaker 2: You know, I just feel like.
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Speaker 3: Look, the ship is not burning, but there is a
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Speaker 3: fire in the kitchen right now. And... I think we
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Speaker 3: really need to see some leadership on how we're going
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Speaker 3: to move forward.
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Speaker 2: You know, this game is what it is. It's a
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Speaker 2: tough one.
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Speaker 3: And honestly, the Browns, I forget who they play this week.
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Speaker 3: They have a very winnable game. So we can go
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Speaker 3: a game and a half back against the Browns.
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Speaker 2: It's a long season. We can turn the tide. We'll
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Speaker 2: play them again.
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Speaker 3: We already beat the Bengals. We haven't played the Ravens.
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Speaker 3: Plenty of tread left on the tires. But, you know,
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Speaker 3: this performance on Thursday and what was seen on and
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Speaker 3: off the field or on the sidelines, I should say,
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Speaker 3: I just think is unacceptable for this team. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Um, it, I'm trying not to read too much into
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Speaker 1: particularly the Aaron Rogers, Mike McCarthy thing. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: guys know each other. Um, I'm not going to repeat what, uh,
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Speaker 1: they said about each other. Um, because that was the
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Speaker 1: one rule when I took over this show, was just
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Speaker 1: no F-bombs, so I can't do it. Which, when you
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Speaker 1: come to think about it, it's a pretty lenient workplace
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Speaker 1: environment if the only rule is you can't say the F-word.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's all kinds of other words, but we're
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Speaker 3: also pretty clean-cut guys.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't pay us for anything, but they
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Speaker 1: let us cuss with almost every word we want, so
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Speaker 1: I guess it's a fair trade-off.
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Speaker 2: So would we get suspended without pay?
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Speaker 1: Yes, but there's no distinction between any other suspensions. But,
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've said that about people before too,
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Speaker 1: not going to lie. I've said it in joking manners
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Speaker 1: with people I know pretty well. I've said it in
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Speaker 1: not joking manners with people I know pretty well to
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Speaker 1: their face. I mean– That's how people talk. It is
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Speaker 1: what it is. Um, maybe there is more to it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Um, I'd be pretty devastated if I was getting my
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Speaker 1: butt kicked by the Cleveland Browns too. Um, the other
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Speaker 1: thing too is Rogers got sacked five times and hit
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Speaker 1: 10 times in the game. So we came back from
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Speaker 1: a performance where we were commending the line and the,
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Speaker 1: the strides they made and protection. And then that seems
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Speaker 1: to have, uh, taken a step back again against the Browns.
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Speaker 3: I still maintain that I think that Rodgers is to
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Speaker 3: blame a little bit for these protection issues.
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Speaker 2: His mobility and his inability to get the ball out quickly.
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Speaker 2: If you're not going to air it.
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Speaker 3: Out, when we used to see Russell Wilson when he
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Speaker 3: was on the Steelers and he was throwing deep balls,
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Speaker 3: or Patrick Mahomes in his, I hate to say his prime,
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Speaker 3: but we had Tyreek Hill Like, back in your football,
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Speaker 3: go throw down the field. That stuff is fine, taking sacks.
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Speaker 3: We saw it with Big Ben. Big Ben got sacked
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Speaker 3: a ton.
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Speaker 2: But, like, he made plays. Right.
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Speaker 3: We're not seeing those explosive plays when it comes to
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Speaker 3: these negative plays.
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Speaker 1: No, and... Yeah, you're right. There is some give and
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Speaker 1: take there, for sure. But I think that I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: put more of it on the line than I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: put it on Aaron Rodgers.
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Speaker 2: Still.
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Speaker 1: The point is, regardless of who's at fault, he did
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Speaker 1: take 10 hits, five of which were sacks. I will
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Speaker 1: say we saw a little bit more out of DK
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Speaker 1: Metcalf finally. He had five receptions for 115 yards. Jalen
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Speaker 1: Warren had another great game as well. He almost got
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Speaker 1: to the 100-yard mark. And despite the doom and gloom
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Speaker 1: that we're providing here, it was a three-point loss. So
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to be a glass-half-full kind of person,
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Speaker 1: you could say, yeah, if we just cut down our
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Speaker 1: own mistakes, if we clean our own house, like Mike
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Speaker 1: McCarthy alluded to today, there's a good chance we could
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Speaker 1: win that game. I guess the part that I would
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Speaker 1: push back on them is I appreciate that you're acknowledging
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Speaker 1: that you need to clean house. That being said, this
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Speaker 1: was the fourth game of the year why do we
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Speaker 1: need to clean house? Why shouldn't we be a little
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Speaker 1: more disciplined anyway? So, we'll talk about it later too.
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Speaker 1: My understanding is that the Steelers did incorporate Joey Porter Jr.
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Speaker 1: into the game plan. They were expecting him to play.
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Speaker 1: And then he came back with yet another sore back,
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Speaker 1: which healed in time for Sunday when he was playing
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Speaker 1: for Dallas, but.
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Speaker 2: How did he do, by the way?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I just know that he was cleared.
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Speaker 1: I was so mad with football this weekend after I
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Speaker 1: did not turn on the games at all on Sunday
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Speaker 1: because I stayed up late to watch our alma mater
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Speaker 1: get their butts kicked the night before.
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Speaker 2: That's a late one.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it was. 11 p.m. kickoff.
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Speaker 2: But.
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Speaker 1: regardless, I don't think that really impacted the performance we
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Speaker 1: saw in the field because the Steelers haven't had Joey
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Speaker 1: Porter all year. And the rotation they would ultimately end
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Speaker 1: up putting in is who had been playing anyway. There
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Speaker 1: was an interesting moment, though, on the very last drive
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Speaker 1: of the game. I don't know if you caught this.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember which Steelers back it was, but... It
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Speaker 1: might have been– no, I'm not going to put a
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Speaker 1: name down. But there was a back who celebrated that
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Speaker 1: he thought he broke up a pass when the guy
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Speaker 1: made a great catch.
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Speaker 2: Samuel, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. And I'm sure he caught
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Speaker 1: the ball, but I also was kind of mad they
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Speaker 1: didn't actually show us a replay to see it. But
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Speaker 1: that– look, this was just a game where– We didn't
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Speaker 1: do everything we needed to do. The Browns, to their credit,
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Speaker 1: made adjustments in the middle of the game and righted
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Speaker 1: the ship. And they did enough to get the win.
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Speaker 1: And that's that, right?
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Speaker 2: They did enough to win the game and we didn't. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we looked a lot better in
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Speaker 2: the second half. It was just we.
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Speaker 3: it and you know like i i feel like it
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Speaker 3: is tough to like take stuff like that for any
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Speaker 3: kind of credit because it's like you know people start
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Speaker 3: playing prevent you gotta get out of your game a little.
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Speaker 2: Bit to just kind of like ice it a little
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Speaker 2: bit but i don't know i just felt.
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Speaker 3: Like they we're just seeing a lot of inconsistency we
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Speaker 3: don't have an identity i guess is where i would
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Speaker 3: say right now.
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Speaker 2: We don't.
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Speaker 3: First two weeks we were defensive, hard-nosed football, couldn't move
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Speaker 3: the ball. Now we have two weeks of having over
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Speaker 3: 24 points a game, and, you know, we're a sieve
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Speaker 3: when it comes to explosive plays.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, sometimes that's all it is, right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, there you have it. The Steelers fall to Cleveland 27-24.
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Speaker 1: Moving into next week on the 11th, the Steelers are
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Speaker 1: hosting the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts are also sitting at 2-2.
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Speaker 1: Looking at their record, though, here's the interesting part. They
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Speaker 1: lost their first two games to the Ravens and the Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: They almost beat the Chiefs. Then they've won their last
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Speaker 1: two against the Texans and the Commanders, albeit not necessarily
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Speaker 1: the greatest opponents, but at the same time, neither are we.
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Speaker 1: But that also means that they're trending in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: They've got more momentum than we have. This is going
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Speaker 1: to be.
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Speaker 2: It.
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Speaker 1: Seems like we always match up with the Colts, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of that's because we usually end up finishing
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Speaker 1: in the same, uh, spots in our respective divisions. Um,
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Speaker 1: and this year we just happened to be matched up
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Speaker 1: with the AFC South. So, uh, get them again, obviously, but, uh,
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Speaker 1: with this game, uh, I think you have to look
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Speaker 1: at the Steelers and ask which team is going to
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Speaker 1: show up and are both sides of the ball going
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Speaker 1: to show up at the same time. Um, famously last
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Speaker 1: year the steelers turned their season around against the colts
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Speaker 1: and stopped them when the colts were the hottest team
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Speaker 1: in the league i think they forced like six turnovers
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Speaker 1: that game or something i don't know that i don't
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Speaker 1: know that it's going to happen again here but uh
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Speaker 1: it's it's just going to take i think some level
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Speaker 1: of consensus consistency to get the win um But before
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Speaker 1: we dive in any further, let me turn it over
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Speaker 1: to you, Eric. Uh, looking ahead to this matchup, what
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Speaker 1: are some of the keys for victory, uh, that you
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Speaker 1: see for Pittsburgh?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just, um, I think first and foremost,
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Speaker 3: you just have to find your identity. I think, um,
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Speaker 3: right now, are we going to be aggressive, um, on defense?
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Speaker 3: And are we a ground and pound type of team? Um,
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Speaker 3: That's going to rely on Jalen Warren building up on
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Speaker 3: his 100-yard rushing performances, or.
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Speaker 2: Is this Aaron Rodgers' team?
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Speaker 3: I think there is a right answer to that.
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Speaker 2: But I think right now.
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Speaker 3: We're trying to make Aaron Rodgers happy rather than doing
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Speaker 3: what's best for winning. So I think they either need
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Speaker 3: to have a real conversation with him and say, we're
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Speaker 3: going to game plan how we think we should win
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Speaker 3: this game. And Aaron, if you're not on board with it,
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Speaker 3: then we got three other quarterbacks that we can move
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Speaker 3: forward with.
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Speaker 2: Um, I have not been shy.
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Speaker 3: I do not think he's the right person for the job.
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Speaker 3: I think it continues to show. And when it comes
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Speaker 3: to leadership, I think he's, he's a people were guy.
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Speaker 2: On that one. Uh, like there was actually, um, in.
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Speaker 3: NFL memes, they had a Aaron Rodgers costume, and it
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Speaker 3: was like, loses games, blames everyone but himself. Um, like,
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Speaker 3: there was, like, other negative comments about him.
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Speaker 2: I don't think anything is wrong. Look, Aaron Rodgers is a.
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Speaker 3: Guy that, like, people put up with when he was
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Speaker 3: throwing 45 touchdowns and six interceptions. Um, leading his team
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Speaker 3: to 13 win seasons, and challenging.
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Speaker 2: For conference championship games. That's not what he is not.
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Speaker 1: He is not that anymore.
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Speaker 2: He can't provide that.
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Speaker 3: And if we think that he can, we're delusional. I
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Speaker 3: think we need to start doing what's best for our team.
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Speaker 3: And I think that this is the week that we
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Speaker 3: do it. The Colts are also a really good running team. Uh,
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Speaker 3: they rely not just with Jonathan Taylor, but Daniel Jones
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Speaker 3: is also a guy.
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Speaker 2: That can do with his legs. So I think if
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Speaker 2: you take care of that defensively, you get to him,
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Speaker 2: you make sure that he's throwing the ball over. running
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Speaker 2: the ball create that imbalance and when he does smash
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Speaker 2: him um so look I just.
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Speaker 3: Yeah I just don't see Blitzburg I don't see I
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Speaker 3: don't see those cower years of running the ball I
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Speaker 3: don't see killer bees. I don't see even the duck
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Speaker 3: cod just gritty as all heck years.
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Speaker 2: Those teams had identity.
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Speaker 3: Those teams had, dang, you know, like the Steelers didn't
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Speaker 3: have everything going for them, but you knew that that
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Speaker 3: was going to be one of the harder games on
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Speaker 3: the schedule just because you knew that they're going to
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Speaker 3: play their game and they're not going to let you
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Speaker 3: out of it. you just had to beat them at
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Speaker 3: their own game. And that's what we need to do.
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Speaker 3: And right now, we're playing a little scared. And I
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Speaker 3: think the key to fixing that is just creating a
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Speaker 3: game plan to what caters to our strengths and don't
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Speaker 3: deviate from it based on the pros of the game
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Speaker 3: or how other people are or mentalities in the locker
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Speaker 3: room are dictating it. There needs to be some leadership,
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Speaker 3: and right now it needs McCarthy.
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Speaker 2: To be the one.
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Speaker 3: He's the one that also calls offense plays, so he
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Speaker 3: needs to be the one that steps up there, and
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Speaker 3: Patrick Graham also needs to be the one.
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Speaker 2: Look, I respect C.J.
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Speaker 3: Watt, but let Patrick Graham do his thing. I think
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Speaker 3: he was a good coordinator at other places. I think
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Speaker 3: that we just need to start practicing and executing, and
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Speaker 3: things will come around. But until we do that, we
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Speaker 3: need to get our head on straight, and that's what
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Speaker 3: I'm looking for.
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Speaker 2: Those guys that kind of step up. Yeah, I mean, I.
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Speaker 1: Think you articulated what I was trying to think about,
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Speaker 1: and it's Specifically with the identity, we don't really even
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Speaker 1: know what our strengths are, right? If I had to
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Speaker 1: pick one thing this year, I'd say Jalen Warren. But
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Speaker 1: we can't just hand the ball off to him every
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Speaker 1: single time, as much as we might like that. Offensively,
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Speaker 1: other than him, we've been inconsistent. Defensively, we've obviously been inconsistent.
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Speaker 1: this is like two weeks in a row where the
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Speaker 1: quarterback pressure has been non-existent or very limited. So I
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Speaker 1: guess the point that I'm making here is I would
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Speaker 1: love for us to identify our strengths so that we
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Speaker 1: can drop a game plan tailored to those. But we'll
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Speaker 1: have to see. I mean, if I'm looking at this game,
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Speaker 1: I just, I don't get the Colts they have Jonathan
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Speaker 1: Taylor they don't have a Michael Pittman anymore we've got
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Speaker 1: him they've got Alec Pierce who we like because of
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Speaker 1: where he came from it's about it so this is
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Speaker 1: a game that I just I don't I think it's
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Speaker 1: going to be an ugly game if I'm being honest
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Speaker 1: with you.
23:31
Speaker 2: You can always be honest with me there uh.
23:37
Speaker 1: No i'm gonna i'm gonna start lying now every time
23:40
Speaker 1: steelers are gonna win this game 56 to negative two
23:43
Speaker 1: yeah that's right now i i just i just find
23:49
Speaker 1: it hard to like look at this and say like
23:51
Speaker 1: okay what do we think's gonna happen here if i
23:54
Speaker 1: think it's gonna if i'm being honest um I think
23:59
Speaker 1: that the Steelers are going to right the ship, I think,
24:03
Speaker 1: at least for this week. I'm not saying they're going
24:05
Speaker 1: to win out or anything. I think they have, and
24:08
Speaker 1: they call it the mini-bye because you played on Thursday
24:11
Speaker 1: night the week before. They get some extra time. They're
24:15
Speaker 1: playing at home. They got the Colts, who they have
24:20
Speaker 1: familiarity with and perform well against over the last several years.
24:27
Speaker 1: But I think that we're going to need to see some,
24:34
Speaker 1: some sort of lucky break go our way. Um, against
24:38
Speaker 1: the Bengals, it was the, um, the, uh, special teams fumbles. Um,
24:47
Speaker 1: so I think, and against the Falcons, it was the, uh,
24:51
Speaker 1: TJ Watt pick six. I'm not saying that, you know,
24:54
Speaker 1: TJ Watt has to score touchdowns. Um, But without those
25:00
Speaker 1: two things, there's a good chance the Steelers are sitting
25:05
Speaker 1: at 0-4 right now too. So that's– outside of individual
25:13
Speaker 1: player performances, I think that turnovers or just those freak
25:17
Speaker 1: plays are going to have to be the difference here,
25:20
Speaker 1: even if it's just one or two. Yeah. If I'm
25:25
Speaker 1: looking at this game and I have to pick a
25:27
Speaker 1: winner and I'm not super confident, I'll go with the Steelers.
25:32
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at their point totals. This is interesting.
25:40
Speaker 1: They've put up at least 20 points in every game,
25:44
Speaker 1: although the first game, as we just said, six of
25:47
Speaker 1: those were TJ Watt. I'm going to say... 24 to 21.
25:55
Speaker 1: The Steelers will get the win here, but I will
25:57
Speaker 1: admit that I am very not confident in that pick.
26:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
26:08
Speaker 2: Look, I think the momentum is going to play a
26:10
Speaker 2: big role. So I'm going to go with the Colts here.
26:14
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to get ugly. I think
26:16
Speaker 2: they will be competitive.
26:18
Speaker 3: You know, to be fair, we.
26:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:25
Speaker 3: I know we had that really bad game against the Patriots,
26:28
Speaker 3: but we've played.
26:30
Speaker 2: Competitive in all three of our games. So, yeah, I
26:35
Speaker 2: think this will be a, I'll call it 27-23 game. 27-23, okay. Well,
26:38
Speaker 2: there you have it. The Steelers are going to get.
26:41
Speaker 1: A win here. You heard it first.
26:42
Speaker 2: From you.
26:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, from me. Well, we thought it might be kind
26:55
Speaker 1: of interesting to talk about the Joey Porter saga for
26:58
Speaker 1: our quote-unquote fun topic. Because we... It's just very interesting
27:08
Speaker 1: to us seeing how this played out, as I'm sure
27:10
Speaker 1: it is for most fans out there. And we've got
27:15
Speaker 1: a little bit of experience with this, too, having lived
27:18
Speaker 1: through the Le'Veon Bell saga. And just... kind of crazy
27:23
Speaker 1: that here we are again, and especially with someone like
27:25
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr., whose dad is, um, obviously aware of
27:30
Speaker 1: the Steelers organization and more familiar with it than, you know,
27:36
Speaker 1: the average guy on the street, clearly. So, uh, to
27:42
Speaker 1: simplify things, Joey Porter had an injury, uh, that, or
27:47
Speaker 1: he said he had an injury, uh, which, um, As
27:52
Speaker 1: I understand it, the way that he reported the injury,
27:56
Speaker 1: waiting until he got to training camp and started participating,
28:01
Speaker 1: did not allow the Steelers to put him on the
28:07
Speaker 1: physically unable to perform list or something like that. They
28:12
Speaker 1: kept marking him as injured, and then they went back
28:16
Speaker 1: and forth for quite a while this year. I think...
28:21
Speaker 1: The Bengals game was the first one that I heard
28:23
Speaker 1: they expected him to play. He came back with more
28:27
Speaker 1: back soreness than, like I mentioned, for this past week
28:31
Speaker 1: against the Browns. They also expected him to play, and
28:35
Speaker 1: I think it was on Wednesday that he came in
28:37
Speaker 1: and said his back was still hurting, which is, if
28:40
Speaker 1: you're to believe the reports, made the Steelers staff irate,
28:45
Speaker 1: which is why they sent him to Dallas for... a
28:52
Speaker 1: third rounder in this upcoming draft, and a second rounder
28:56
Speaker 1: in the 2028 draft.
28:58
Speaker 2: Are you sure?
28:59
Speaker 3: I thought it was a sixth rounder and a second rounder.
29:02
Speaker 1: You are correct. I'm sorry. I said a third.
29:07
Speaker 2: I would be totally fine with a third and a second.
29:10
Speaker 2: That sounds fair.
29:12
Speaker 1: Well, no, you do not get to be totally fine.
29:14
Speaker 1: You get a sixth rounder and a third rounder. I'm
29:16
Speaker 1: sorry I brought your hopes up. But there I am
29:19
Speaker 1: already– there I am lying to you.
29:20
Speaker 2: Mr. Dasher over here.
29:22
Speaker 1: There I am lying to you like we said.
29:24
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm a world famous accountant because I'm always honest.
29:29
Speaker 1: It's the numbers too. You caught me on my numbers.
29:32
Speaker 1: But look, at the end, that's what happened. So the
29:36
Speaker 1: Steelers once again with their favorite trade. partner, the Dallas Cowboys,
29:43
Speaker 1: struck a deal and sent Joey Porter Jr.
29:46
Speaker 3: To Dallas.
29:47
Speaker 1: So now the Cowboys have three former Steelers on their roster,
29:52
Speaker 1: courtesy of a trade. So I did mention to you
29:57
Speaker 1: It would be really awkward if the Cowboys managed to
30:00
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. And you were very blunt in
30:03
Speaker 1: saying the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl, really?
30:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:08
Speaker 1: So let's just talk about Joey Porter, though. What are
30:12
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the situation? What are you thinking? Just
30:15
Speaker 1: give me your gut check.
30:20
Speaker 2: I'll just say it's neutral.
30:22
Speaker 3: And that might sound like a cop-out.
30:24
Speaker 2: I'll give you my pros and cons. Okay, so do
30:30
Speaker 2: you want to be negative first or positive first?
30:36
Speaker 1: Let's do positive.
30:37
Speaker 2: Okay, positive. You got something, right?
30:41
Speaker 3: Now, the discretion of what people want to say about
30:45
Speaker 3: how much he was worth.
30:47
Speaker 2: Is up to everyone's interpretation.
30:50
Speaker 3: I will tell you as an accountant and someone that
30:53
Speaker 3: studied finance in school that market value.
30:58
Speaker 2: Is what the market will give you.
31:00
Speaker 3: And the market was, we had one.
31:03
Speaker 2: Trade offer that was okay. And that's why we took it.
31:08
Speaker 2: So people that are.
31:10
Speaker 3: Saying like, you know, we could have gotten more, show me,
31:15
Speaker 3: show me the information that tells me that, that you're
31:18
Speaker 3: right about that. Um, because I, you know, unless you're, uh, You.
31:27
Speaker 2: Have some internal knowledge that I'm privy to. Yeah, that
31:33
Speaker 2: doesn't sound to.
31:34
Speaker 3: Be the case. But I think it's the way that
31:39
Speaker 3: the Steelers handled it. Now, and I'll tell you also,
31:45
Speaker 3: I'm upset with Joey Porter for a different reason, too.
31:48
Speaker 2: So, look, we've drafted and.
31:53
Speaker 3: Developed a quarterback who we finally feel.
31:57
Speaker 2: is actually a cornerback one.
32:00
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the best cornerback in the league. I'm
32:04
Speaker 3: saying a cornerback one. There's 32 of them in the league.
32:10
Speaker 3: Cornerback ones, whether you like it or not, it's like quarterbacks, right?
32:16
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence might.
32:17
Speaker 2: Get $ 55.
32:17
Speaker 3: Million and reset the quarterback market, and you might be
32:20
Speaker 3: really upset about that.
32:22
Speaker 2: But in order to pay for a top 10 at
32:25
Speaker 2: the position... you need to pay top-of-the-market money at that time.
32:32
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that he should.
32:33
Speaker 3: Have gotten $ 34 million or whatever the top-of-the-market was, but, look,
32:41
Speaker 3: when it came down to it was he wanted a
32:43
Speaker 3: second year guaranteed. We've only done that for TJ Watt.
32:48
Speaker 3: I think prior to that was Ben. And people keep
32:52
Speaker 3: on throwing DK out there. I think that's because, really, like.
32:57
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? You trade for them. Like,
32:59
Speaker 2: you can't.
33:02
Speaker 3: Like, we've never made a trade that big without it
33:06
Speaker 3: being on a rookie contract. So, like, you need to
33:10
Speaker 3: give them that kind of financial security. So, our hands
33:14
Speaker 3: were a little tied there. So, I think you got
33:21
Speaker 3: what you could for this situation. I think we could
33:25
Speaker 3: have played our cards right. I think that we definitely
33:29
Speaker 3: missed out the situation. I felt like if we didn't
33:33
Speaker 3: get ahead of the contract before, because it's not like
33:38
Speaker 3: he played that many games from the end of the.
33:40
Speaker 2: Season last year up until training camp. If you didn't
33:46
Speaker 2: know what you were going to do before the draft,
33:48
Speaker 2: then you.
33:49
Speaker 3: Could have either, if not gotten draft capital this year,
33:55
Speaker 3: for at least the next year.
33:56
Speaker 2: I think next year is going to be a huge
33:58
Speaker 2: year for the Steelers.
34:01
Speaker 3: The draft capital to me stinks because when you think
34:06
Speaker 3: about the present value of what you're going to get
34:08
Speaker 3: for it, that premium pick, the second rounder, I'm going
34:12
Speaker 3: to disregard the sixth rounder.
34:13
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
34:14
Speaker 3: People are going to say Tom Brady was picked that way,
34:17
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown.
34:19
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
34:22
Speaker 3: The crux of this is on the second rounder. And
34:25
Speaker 3: if we hit that pick, that person's not going to
34:29
Speaker 3: play a down until 2028. So we're not going to
34:38
Speaker 3: recoup any value. And this goes back to what.
34:42
Speaker 2: I've said over and over and over about this team.
34:46
Speaker 3: Are we rebuilding or are we pushing the chips in?
34:49
Speaker 2: Are we... Bringing in a DK Metcalf and paying.
34:52
Speaker 3: On top of the wide receiver money and doing a
34:55
Speaker 3: 42-year-old quarterback to make a final.
34:58
Speaker 2: Push, or are we building for the future? S-H-I-T or
35:04
Speaker 2: get off the pot. That is really where I need
35:06
Speaker 2: to go.
35:09
Speaker 1: You're allowed to say that word, by the way.
35:11
Speaker 2: Remember, it's not the F word. It's very frustrating to me.
35:18
Speaker 2: So that's where the negative kind of comes into me.
35:21
Speaker 3: It's that, look, again, stop towing the line on what
35:25
Speaker 3: the direction of it is.
35:27
Speaker 2: Same way our coaching needs to be, on our leadership,
35:30
Speaker 2: on the field needs to be. We need some direction.
35:34
Speaker 3: And this is an aimless team, aimless organization right now.
35:39
Speaker 3: Literally no idea where we are painting ourselves on the campus.
35:44
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy right now? The White Sox....
35:48
Speaker 3: Our one win away from the ALCS, they lost like
35:53
Speaker 3: 100-plus games the last three years because they tanked and
35:58
Speaker 3: they built.
36:00
Speaker 2: Astros did the same thing, and then they had their
36:03
Speaker 2: whole 2010 run, right?
36:06
Speaker 3: I know in baseball it does a little bit different
36:08
Speaker 3: than the NFL, but.
36:13
Speaker 2: Look, sometimes you need to just cut your losses.
36:16
Speaker 3: And figure out what you need to do Again, I'm
36:20
Speaker 3: just saying this because we still have time to recoup
36:23
Speaker 3: the situation. The trade deadline is coming up. If we
36:28
Speaker 3: don't think that we're a team that is going to
36:30
Speaker 3: compete in 26, not in 27, not in 28, 26,
36:35
Speaker 3: get rid of the.
36:38
Speaker 2: Premium players that we have and get what we can
36:41
Speaker 2: for them. Because that's what this trade represented to me.
36:45
Speaker 2: And then when I'm at it with... Jerry Porter Jr.,
36:48
Speaker 2: before I turn it over to you, he didn't even
36:50
Speaker 2: get a new contract.
36:52
Speaker 3: The whole point of why he wanted to get traded
36:56
Speaker 3: was to get a guaranteed second year.
36:59
Speaker 2: He didn't get a guaranteed first year with this trade.
37:03
Speaker 2: And he went to a team that has to sign Pickens.
37:07
Speaker 2: And Pickens is going to.
37:08
Speaker 3: Get $ 35.
37:09
Speaker 2: Million a year next year.
37:12
Speaker 3: Whether people believe he's going to get that or not,
37:14
Speaker 3: Cowboys might not give it to him, but someone is.
37:18
Speaker 1: And now the Cowboys are in a situation where they
37:23
Speaker 1: have to consider, like you said, do they give Pickens
37:27
Speaker 1: the money? Do they give Joey Porter the money? And
37:31
Speaker 1: do they, no matter what, they run the risk of
37:36
Speaker 1: pissing the other off if they don't find a way
37:38
Speaker 1: to give them both the money, right?
37:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Which we would have ran into that
37:42
Speaker 2: problem too, but... And out of that result, we got
37:46
Speaker 2: a third rounder, a second rounder, and a sixth rounder.
37:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:51
Speaker 3: But we also supposedly nailed our top of the second
37:55
Speaker 3: round pick and our middle of the second round pick,
37:59
Speaker 3: and we didn't even recoup the original draft capital for
38:03
Speaker 3: their pick. So did we make good on what we
38:06
Speaker 3: did in our investment either?
38:08
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.
38:11
Speaker 1: So the other thing that you also have to keep
38:13
Speaker 1: in mind too, and It's one of those things that's
38:16
Speaker 1: so obvious you shouldn't have to say it, but you
38:18
Speaker 1: do as well. Any trade that involves draft picks, you
38:24
Speaker 1: have to hit on those draft picks if you're going
38:26
Speaker 1: to keep them, right? Yeah. So we've talked at length
38:31
Speaker 1: over the years about the Steelers missing on draft picks.
38:34
Speaker 1: It happens. So that's something to keep in mind too.
38:42
Speaker 2: I think.
38:43
Speaker 1: look, I, I don't appreciate the way that Joey Porter
38:47
Speaker 1: handled it with the faux or possible, uh, alleged injury. Um, I, I, I, it,
38:59
Speaker 1: that just kind of rubs me the wrong way where
39:01
Speaker 1: you're like, when you're reporting it the way you are,
39:04
Speaker 1: like the day before games and stuff, and then you're
39:06
Speaker 1: suddenly good again, um, or healthy again to go.
39:11
Speaker 3: Uh, I will think that they're going to do something
39:15
Speaker 3: in the collective bargaining agreement to.
39:18
Speaker 2: Change all that. Next one. That happens so often now. Yeah.
39:23
Speaker 1: Typically it's the people represented by the same agents too,
39:26
Speaker 1: which is also funny. Yeah. I will say, though, that
39:32
Speaker 1: when you look at the contracts the Steelers have given out,
39:36
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I... First of all, I do understand
39:41
Speaker 1: that there's only so much money in the pot, right?
39:43
Speaker 2: Yeah. But....
39:47
Speaker 1: If I'm Joey Porter Jr., I would look around and
39:49
Speaker 1: be like, wait a minute here. That guy got an extension.
39:57
Speaker 1: That guy got an extension. The biggest ones I'm thinking
40:02
Speaker 1: are Ramsey got a contract, a reworked contract after the
40:10
Speaker 1: trade to come here. And he's at the tail end
40:13
Speaker 1: of his career. And On the defensive line, why am
40:20
Speaker 1: I blanking now?
40:22
Speaker 2: Benton.
40:23
Speaker 1: Benton just got a big one, and he's mostly a
40:26
Speaker 1: depth player.
40:27
Speaker 3: I was going to say, like, it was weird how
40:31
Speaker 3: they prioritized certain players.
40:34
Speaker 2: Yes. Like, I didn't mind Herbig, but... Same. I do
40:39
Speaker 2: think Benton.
40:41
Speaker 3: Especially when they got Derek Harmon the next year, was like,
40:46
Speaker 3: It didn't seem necessary to extend them before he needed to.
40:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's where I would say I sympathize with
40:55
Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. I just did not sympathize with the
40:58
Speaker 1: way he went about it. I am in agreement with you, though, too.
41:05
Speaker 1: I know we don't like to.
41:08
Speaker 2: Tank.
41:09
Speaker 1: I know that's not our style, nor will it ever
41:12
Speaker 1: be our style. But We've just got all this money
41:19
Speaker 1: tied up in the defense, and I would rather us
41:28
Speaker 1: get stuff for our stars now while they have value
41:32
Speaker 1: if we know we're not going to win or compete
41:35
Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl. Yeah.
41:40
Speaker 2: And you don't even need to, like, tank... To the
41:44
Speaker 2: degree of, like, the Dolphins tanking, right?
41:47
Speaker 3: It's just, look, you've invested a day-two pick in a quarterback.
41:53
Speaker 3: We've heard endlessly for two years that there's a six-round
41:58
Speaker 3: pick gem on our roster.
42:01
Speaker 2: Why are we.
42:01
Speaker 3: Playing a 42-year-old quarterback that people don't seem to like?
42:07
Speaker 3: Why are we re-upping guys that are, like, you know,
42:14
Speaker 3: 37 and 32 years old that are all pros that honestly,
42:19
Speaker 3: they probably want to go win somewhere and we're not
42:22
Speaker 3: going to do it.
42:23
Speaker 2: So like give them the chance to go do it.
42:27
Speaker 3: Um, I just, I don't know. It just irks me
42:30
Speaker 3: the wrong way. Like there's ways you can go about it.
42:34
Speaker 3: You can build, you can build while rebuilding.
42:38
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't have to be like a conspiracy.
42:42
Speaker 3: Like a day you know you strip down and then
42:45
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're better in one day like
42:47
Speaker 3: no like it's a process of movement and you can
42:53
Speaker 3: I would just have rather seen Joey Porter Jr. as
42:58
Speaker 3: part of our next umbrella team but like.
43:04
Speaker 2: Obviously it wasn't in the cards I'm not I do
43:09
Speaker 2: think that he spoke.
43:12
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but, like, it's a character.
43:18
Speaker 2: Dude needs to get his, like, first contract ever, like,
43:20
Speaker 2: his big one. So I get it. But, like, I agree.
43:25
Speaker 2: I don't like the whole faking a back injury. I
43:28
Speaker 2: don't love hold-ins. But that's the nature of the business, right?
43:33
Speaker 3: Like, people that get pissed off because people do that
43:37
Speaker 3: are the.
43:37
Speaker 2: Same people that, like, when, um... You know, someone.
43:42
Speaker 3: Outperforms their contract and they ask for a bigger money
43:47
Speaker 3: or extension, and the team says no.
43:49
Speaker 2: Like, that's their right to do it. Right. So they're
43:55
Speaker 2: within their framework to do it. You might not like it, but, like,
43:59
Speaker 2: I'm not an organization sympathizer. I'm not a player sympathizer.
44:03
Speaker 2: I want the Steelers to win.
44:06
Speaker 1: However they need to do it.
44:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, yeah.
44:15
Speaker 1: I think the thing we kind of keep dancing around
44:20
Speaker 1: to is the quarterback. And we know that Aaron Rodgers
44:28
Speaker 1: is not the future. He says he's not playing after
44:33
Speaker 1: this year. Even if he reneges on that, he– It's
44:40
Speaker 1: not like he's got a five-year shelf life, right? Yeah.
44:46
Speaker 1: So what you've said is we need to figure out
44:50
Speaker 1: what we're doing and we need to get toward that goal.
44:54
Speaker 1: And I'm with you. If some of these guys aren't
44:59
Speaker 1: going to even be around by the time whoever the
45:03
Speaker 1: next quarterback is takes over, whether it's someone on the
45:08
Speaker 1: roster now or someone that remains to be drafted, that
45:16
Speaker 1: would impact how and what the team does in their operations.
45:20
Speaker 1: The problem is, we've talked about it before, they're in
45:24
Speaker 1: this purgatory where, like you just said, they're not really
45:28
Speaker 1: committing to something. They're just sticking with what they've got,
45:33
Speaker 1: and we're kind of stuck in the middle, right?
45:37
Speaker 2: We're not.
45:38
Speaker 1: We're not. really getting any better but we're not making
45:42
Speaker 1: other moves we're just kind of holding the line and
45:46
Speaker 1: we're losing people like Joey Porter Jr. so yeah well
45:51
Speaker 1: to me right like it's just.
45:55
Speaker 2: Okay I'm not trying to like.
45:58
Speaker 3: You know tar and feather Aaron Rodgers right now it's
46:01
Speaker 3: just look.
46:05
Speaker 2: We've seen our team through four games in the quarter
46:08
Speaker 2: or the season Do we think this team's going to
46:11
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl? Absolutely. And Nick seems very confident
46:18
Speaker 2: in that.
46:18
Speaker 3: If you see yourself and you can honestly say, yes, fine.
46:24
Speaker 1: I can't.
46:26
Speaker 3: So my inclination is saying, then you need to look.
46:32
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be completely reset to next season, but.
46:37
Speaker 2: Look, man, you got it.
46:39
Speaker 3: Two quarterbacks on the roster that you kind of like,
46:44
Speaker 3: figure out which one you do, because you need to
46:49
Speaker 3: figure out.
46:50
Speaker 2: Both of them are going to be on the team
46:52
Speaker 2: next year, I'll tell you that. Because I think.
46:58
Speaker 3: It's going to be one of them that's going to
46:59
Speaker 3: stand out, but I do think that we're going to
47:02
Speaker 3: try to get a quarterback next year. And If you're
47:06
Speaker 3: going to do that, why win enough games to push
47:11
Speaker 3: yourself out of potential top 10, top 12 draft capital?
47:21
Speaker 2: It just seems so funny right now. We're saying, okay,
47:23
Speaker 2: we're going to trade away.
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Speaker 3: We're going to get a second rounder and 28 for
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Speaker 3: this guy.
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Speaker 2: But we might need to trade up a.
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Speaker 3: Second rounder and a third rounder next year to move
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Speaker 3: up to get one guy.
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Speaker 2: Next year, you know? Right. For a window where that
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Speaker 2: guy's now gone. I'm like, well, that didn't seem like
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Speaker 2: good planning. You know? People blame Mike.
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Speaker 3: Tomlin for spending so much time on Minecraft, but you
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Speaker 3: know what?
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Speaker 2: He had a plan for 12 years to build that city. So... Oh, jeez.
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Speaker 1: Heaven forbid it.
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Speaker 2: He had a vision in his head. He did it.
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Speaker 1: Heaven forbid a man have a hobby when he's not
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Speaker 1: working 20 hours a day.
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Speaker 3: Dude, I did think it was crazy. People were like,
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Speaker 3: just like on him about it, about that. And I
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Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, agreed with what you just said.
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Speaker 2: Like, okay. I, I am a father of three now.
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Speaker 2: I like puzzling. I like, You know, when I have
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Speaker 2: free time disc golfing. Does it mean I'm not a
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Speaker 2: good dad?
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Speaker 3: No, it just means that I don't invest every ounce
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Speaker 3: of my day being that person. I think people have
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Speaker 3: an unrealistic expectation of what coaches need to do. They
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Speaker 3: want their coaches to sleep in offices and give up
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Speaker 3: their whole life.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and you took the fatherhood approach.
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Speaker 2: I always.
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Speaker 1: tell people, I mean, whatever your job is, let's just
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Speaker 1: say you're, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Any, any job.
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Speaker 1: Do you do that job 24 seven?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Well, he's a coach. I get that. He gets paid
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Speaker 1: a lot of money, but it is unrealistic to think
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Speaker 1: that anyone in any profession works 24 seven. Um, I
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Speaker 1: always thought it was interesting to, um, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: that you can criticize about the Harbaugh's, um, But I
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Speaker 1: always thought it was really cool when one of the
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh brothers would go to the other games. Like when
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh went to the Michigan game in the National
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Speaker 1: Championship and surprised his brother on the sideline. And then
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Speaker 1: there was one time when Tom Crean, who's actually their brother-in-law,
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Speaker 1: when he was still coaching at the Indiana Hoosiers, they
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Speaker 1: both showed up at one of his basketball games. And, yeah,
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Speaker 1: people were ripping into both of them. Like, oh, maybe
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Speaker 1: that's why their teams haven't won a Super Bowl or
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Speaker 1: this or that. And I'm like, heaven forbid they spend
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Speaker 1: time with their family, right?
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Speaker 2: Dude, that's crazy. Like, could you imagine... Okay, so, like,
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Speaker 2: the Harbaugh's dad was a coach. Yes. And so, like,
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Speaker 2: I kind of get the whole, you know, the....
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Speaker 3: The guys ending up wanting to be a coach, following
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Speaker 3: their dad's footsteps.
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Speaker 2: But then, like, you know, the daughter is just like,
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Speaker 2: I want to marry a coach. Right. But in basketball.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, what?
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Speaker 3: Like, you just, you know, they're just.
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Speaker 2: Collecting coaches out there. Right.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Good.
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Speaker 2: That family tree, man.
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Speaker 1: Good for them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, was there anything else we wanted to
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Speaker 1: talk about while we're hanging out here, me from my
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Speaker 1: hotel in D.C. and you from your sickly home?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to say I haven't coughed at
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Speaker 2: all this whole entire bit. And it's because I'm fired up.
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Speaker 3: Hashed about football and Steelers, stuff like that. But, look, I.
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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, these guys are just
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Speaker 3: other people. I don't mean any disregard except for Aaron Rodgers.
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Speaker 2: I do think he's a mean guy.
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Speaker 3: A mean guy. I think he deserves all the criticism
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Speaker 3: that goes his way because he needs to write his show.
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Speaker 2: But everyone else, I respect you and.
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Speaker 3: Wish you the best on turning around our endeavors.
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Speaker 1: Well, and on that positive note, I think we're good
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Speaker 1: to wrap up. For the world-famous accountant Eric Vamenschoten, I
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Speaker 1: am Nick DiTullio, and this has been another episode of TheGameHouse.com's
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Speaker 1: Steelers Country Weekly.