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9-01-26 Hour 3 - Adam Schefter/CFB in parts unknown, Oh By the Way.../Spittin Chiclets praises Cale contract · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: All right, we'll be joined by Adam Schefter on the
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  Speaker 3: of minutes. Again, if you missed that interview we just
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  Speaker 3: had with Joe Sackick, that will be on the podcast
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  Speaker 3: shortly as he talks about signing Cale and heading into
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  Speaker 3: this year. It is weird, man, because you're right. Av
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  Speaker 3: season starts in 29 days.
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  Speaker 2: That fast.
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  Speaker 3: Coming right around the corner. So I was just asking Moj, Nelly,
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  Speaker 3: do you know this? When are we going to start
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  Speaker 3: talking to Bedsy again? Is that like three weeks, four weeks,
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  Speaker 3: somewhere in there? Got to be.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but yeah, now it's the time of
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  Speaker 4: year that we got to figure that out. So I
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  Speaker 4: will work on that and let you know.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, speaking of the Avs, by the way, Bernie, the mascot,
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  Speaker 2: Every single one of them.
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  Speaker 3: The mascots?
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  Speaker 2: In the NHL, yeah. Great.
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  Speaker 2: He's really good.
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  Speaker 3: Who's it?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: Probably Gritty is going to win.
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  Speaker 5: Probably. He's weird.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these mascots are kind of lame.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, we'll talk to Adam Schefter here in just
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  Speaker 3: a second. Again, as we are awaiting this one last
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  Speaker 3: sort of dead week until the football season officially kicks off. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I do want to ask if Adam has any information
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  Speaker 3: on what's going to happen with Jonathan Cooper now that
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  Speaker 3: a court date is set. Will he be taken off
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  Speaker 3: the exempt list and then eventually be allowed to play
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  Speaker 3: in the meantime until that? Because that's not the only thing. Like,
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  Speaker 3: think about it, guys. I just saw that Shiloh Sanders,
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  Speaker 3: his court case just started yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And remember, Deion is supposed to be deposed at some
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  Speaker 3: point in this. On Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Or Friday.
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  Speaker 3: On game day?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, via Zoom.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so they're going to do it via Zoom.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So at least he's going to be able... It's not
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  Speaker 3: going to be like you got to hop on a
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  Speaker 3: PJ real quick and fly to the game in Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 6: Two witness depositions on Monday identified Shiloh as the aggressor
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  Speaker 6: in a 2015 incident in Texas where school security guard.
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  Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 6: You know, a lot of this case, man, is here's
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  Speaker 6: an adult gets into a fight with a young man.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds fishy to me, to be totally honest.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is that guy, he suffered, like, I think
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  Speaker 3: life-altering injuries, something with the neck.
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  Speaker 2: He claims. We don't know all the circumstances.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter joins us now on the Ramos Law Hotline.
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  Speaker 3: I know that you're the NFL guy, Adam, but do
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  Speaker 3: you have any information? Like the Deion Sanders, he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be deposed in his son's bankruptcy case or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that. Do you have any information on that?
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  Speaker 5: No. I don't even know anything about this. First I'm
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  Speaker 5: hearing about it. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, we can just move on then. Can I go
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  Speaker 3: from court case to court case with you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, so with Jonathan Cooper, he's on the commissioner's exempt
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  Speaker 3: list right now, but his court case is set for
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  Speaker 3: November 10th. Typically what happens can, will the NFL take
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  Speaker 3: him off this and let him play until the court
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  Speaker 3: case or what, what usually happens?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think we're a little bit uncharted territory.
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  Speaker 7: Um, It's a situation where I think the NFL is always,
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  Speaker 7: always going to err to the side of caution. They
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  Speaker 7: don't care that he's missing football games, frankly, right now.
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  Speaker 7: They care about making sure that the integrity and image
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  Speaker 7: of the league is upheld. That is the most important
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  Speaker 7: thing to them. And if there is information that surfaces
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  Speaker 7: that shows that Jonathan Cooper will prove that he's innocent,
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  Speaker 7: then he would play. And if there's not, then it'll
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  Speaker 7: just linger out there until there is clarity or until
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  Speaker 7: the NFL has the information it needs, whenever that is.
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  Speaker 6: Well, because his next court date is not expected until
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  Speaker 6: early November.
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  Speaker 5: So you mean to tell me that could just— Right,
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  Speaker 5: November 10th, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the NFL is not.
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  Speaker 5: In any rush. They don't care that Jonathan Cooper is
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  Speaker 5: not playing. I think they would care about being fair.
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  Speaker 7: But they care about, again, preserving the image and integrity
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  Speaker 7: of the league, and that's very important to the league.
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  Speaker 2: So that's obviously then a big setback for the Denver Broncos. Adam,
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about it earlier. Isn't that the way
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  Speaker 2: coaches don't have to prepare now? Sean Payton, like this guy,
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  Speaker 2: he's not dead to us, but I just, I can't
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  Speaker 2: even think about him. I've got to think about now
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  Speaker 2: how to get this rotation at defensive end or linebacker,
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  Speaker 2: how to get that correct.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's right.
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  Speaker 7: I think that you have to operate as if he's
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  Speaker 7: not there, not going to be there until he is there.
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  Speaker 7: They know that they can't count on having him the
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  Speaker 7: early part of the season. And if, by the way,
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  Speaker 7: something develops and it happens to be that he is
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  Speaker 7: available and eligible, then great.
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  Speaker 5: But right now you can't think that way if you're
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: So Adam Schefter with us. I was watching the waiver
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  Speaker 3: wire yesterday. The Dolphins picked up two Broncos players who
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  Speaker 3: won waivers, one of them being the fifth-round pick, Justin Jolie.
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  Speaker 3: What I didn't know until I was reading further into
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  Speaker 3: it and saw your tweet, they claimed seven players off
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  Speaker 3: of waivers, which first of all feels like it's got
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  Speaker 3: to be close to a record. Second of all, what
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  Speaker 3: by percentage of cap, they're paying $ 181 million in dead
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  Speaker 3: cap to guys who aren't on the roster. Do you
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  Speaker 3: know a team that's been close to that in recent memory?
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  Speaker 6: No, no.
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  Speaker 5: The Broncos, when they carried Russell Wilson's money, it was
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  Speaker 5: $ 140 million.
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  Speaker 7: So this is $ 182.
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  Speaker 5: Million in dead cap space.
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  Speaker 7: So I don't think we've ever seen anything like that
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  Speaker 7: at this point in time. It's an extraordinary number. They
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  Speaker 7: claimed seven players. I don't remember the last time I
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  Speaker 7: saw a team claim seven players on waivers. They've got
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  Speaker 7: a lot of rookies on their roster. Is that how
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  Speaker 7: you pronounce the pet in?
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  Speaker 5: Jolie? Jolie.
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  Speaker 2: Jolie.
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  Speaker 5: Justin Jolie? I didn't realize that. Okay, well.
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  Speaker 7: Justin Jolie may go on to have a great career
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  Speaker 7: in Miami, but I think Denver obviously saw what it saw,
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  Speaker 7: and it's the reason that the Broncos waived him.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it seems like Sean Payton is smart, and
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  Speaker 6: he and George Payton are working the margins. When they
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  Speaker 6: construct their roster, they always have a couple veterans that
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  Speaker 6: they throw to the practice squad, so they don't end
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  Speaker 6: up on the roster early, but they bring them back.
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  Speaker 6: Is that sort of the mode now? Is that what
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  Speaker 6: every team is doing? Because Sean's been doing that for
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  Speaker 6: a couple of years now.
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  Speaker 7: Well, they changed the practice squad rules. So like Josh
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  Speaker 7: Johnson just signed with the Bengals practice squad. He was
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  Speaker 7: in Cincinnati's camp. And I think you have to know.
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  Speaker 7: When they have a feel, you have a feel. Who's
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  Speaker 7: going to be claimed? Who's not going to be claimed?
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  Speaker 7: Who's going to sign?
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  Speaker 5: Who wants to come back? You're talking to the guy.
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  Speaker 7: So if you have a great relationship with the guy
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  Speaker 7: and he's happy with your team, of course they want
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  Speaker 7: to be on the roster.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of money at stake.
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  Speaker 7: But if he knows that, look, the truth of the
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  Speaker 7: matter is, I mean, you can cut a veteran and
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  Speaker 7: if he's got a team that's going to give him
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  Speaker 7: a roster spot, he's going to go there. But if not,
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  Speaker 7: chances are he'll just stay where he is and he'll
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  Speaker 7: continue on in the practice squad. But of course they're
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  Speaker 7: going to want, they're going to want a regular roster
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  Speaker 7: spot with a regular salary, but if there's not one there,
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  Speaker 7: if they have a good relationship and they like being
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  Speaker 7: in that organization, then they'll go back to that practice squad.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, is there a standardized practice squad? Like, could you
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  Speaker 6: throw the practice squad players a couple extra bucks to
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  Speaker 6: stick around?
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  Speaker 3: Or is it, hey, man, this is what you get,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what every NFL player gets? In other words,
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  Speaker 3: can the Broncos buy practice squad players to pay them more?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think you can.
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  Speaker 7: But every team has the same salary cap. So if
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  Speaker 7: you decided to blow a million dollars on a practice
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  Speaker 7: squad player, like, I don't know why you'd be doing that.
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  Speaker 5: Why he'd be getting a million dollars and why somebody
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't be picking him up in their roster. So yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think you can pay a practice squad veteran more,
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  Speaker 7: but I think there are limits.
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  Speaker 5: And like, why are you going to do that if
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  Speaker 5: he's on the practice squad? Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 2: We talk NFL quarterbacks, Adam. I see some teams have
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  Speaker 2: four at the moment. Some teams have two at the moment,
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  Speaker 2: like the Jets. They just named the kid as their
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  Speaker 2: backup to Geno. But the Broncos, they kept three. And
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  Speaker 2: there was a time, I think, in the league where
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  Speaker 2: three quarterbacks was the standard. Everybody had three, so on.
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  Speaker 2: And then it started to really move away from that
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  Speaker 2: some years ago. but they didn't want Ellinger to go anyplace.
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  Speaker 2: When you talk to executives around the league, what is
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  Speaker 2: their ideal situation, or is it just whatever fits that
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  Speaker 2: particular franchise?
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it's the most important position in sports.
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  Speaker 7: Secondly, it's important to have chemistry in that room, to
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  Speaker 7: have guys that really like each other and like being
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  Speaker 7: around each other. So you want the position to be solidified.
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  Speaker 7: You want the room to be strong. There's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of elements in place that you want to have happen.
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  Speaker 7: So whatever it takes to secure that position. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 7: saw a bunch of teams this year carry four. because
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  Speaker 7: sometimes they're betting on the upside of a player, like
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  Speaker 7: the Eagles drafted Cole Payton, the quarterback, and saw enough there.
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  Speaker 7: They want to keep him. The Browns drafted Taylor Green,
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  Speaker 7: and I've seen enough there. They want to keep him.
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  Speaker 7: So it just depends. But quarterbacks are valuable. So whatever
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  Speaker 7: you can do to keep the right guys, you're going
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  Speaker 7: to do that at all times. But there's no right
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  Speaker 7: or wrong. I'm sure some teams have two. I'm sure
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  Speaker 7: some teams have four. Some teams have three.
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  Speaker 5: It just.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you want to do whatever you can to
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  Speaker 7: secure that position in the best way possible.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Schefter with us, ESPN. Explain this one to me, please, Adam.
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  Speaker 3: The Dolphins are in cap hell because they're paying a
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  Speaker 3: whole bunch of money to guys who aren't on the roster.
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  Speaker 3: And then the Rams have spent money on everything. over
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  Speaker 3: the last five years and then found $ 20 million in
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  Speaker 3: a couch cushion to sign Donald back. How did they
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  Speaker 3: get this cash? How does that work for them?
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  Speaker 7: Well, first of all, teams can always spend whatever cash
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  Speaker 7: they want to spend.
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  Speaker 5: That's number one. Cash is king in the league.
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  Speaker 7: And, but, but everybody's got the same cap space.
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  Speaker 5: And so the Rams found the cap space.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that obviously it's like a credit.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, it's like an allowance. If I give you
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  Speaker 5: a hundred dollars, you'd go spend $ 80 at the nightclub,
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  Speaker 5: but you only have $ 20 to pay your bills on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 7: Like, so it's just a question of what you want
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  Speaker 7: to do and how you want to spend it. And
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  Speaker 7: it's no different for the Rams. They're just spending it
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  Speaker 7: in high profile places right now. And so you're seeing it.
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  Speaker 7: But I know that initially when the idea of Aaron
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  Speaker 7: Donald came up, I was told it was going to
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  Speaker 7: be very hard to afford him. So however they did it,
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  Speaker 7: like they structured the contract. It's like I think it's
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  Speaker 7: the salary cap charge is closer to 10 million. But
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  Speaker 7: then it's they push the money into future years. eventually
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  Speaker 7: they're going to have to pay the bill. A better analogy,
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  Speaker 7: the best analogy, of course, is credit cards. You could
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  Speaker 7: go to the mall and go buy $ 10, 000 worth of things,
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  Speaker 7: and you could pay up that bill however you want
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  Speaker 7: to pay it off, but eventually that bill is going
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  Speaker 7: to be paid off, sometimes with interest, okay? So you
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  Speaker 7: could go have a great day, at the Cherry Creek
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  Speaker 7: mall right now, but that bill is going to come
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  Speaker 7: due and the bill is going to come due for
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  Speaker 7: the Rams. It may be more so in 27 and
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  Speaker 7: 28 than it is in 26, but the bill is
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  Speaker 7: going to come due.
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  Speaker 3: The other question about surrounding Aaron Donald and, and look
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  Speaker 3: for my money in my lifetime, I'm 36. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's the best defensive player I've ever seen. Like to
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  Speaker 3: dominate from the interior of a defensive line like he
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  Speaker 3: did is crazy. But he's been out of the game
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  Speaker 3: for three years. Is there a question to like, how
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  Speaker 3: effective is he going to be? Because I think people
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  Speaker 3: are expecting him to be the same guy from three
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  Speaker 3: years ago. And I'm like, that'd be tough.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think that was part of what was going
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  Speaker 7: on here during the entire time that you had him
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  Speaker 7: staying away and working out on his own and getting
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  Speaker 7: back in football shape is that, you know, they wanted
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  Speaker 7: to make sure, he wanted to make sure that, that
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  Speaker 7: he was going to be able to help the Rams
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  Speaker 7: when he came back.
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  Speaker 5: He wanted to feel like he was as close to
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  Speaker 5: being Aaron Donald as he could. Is he going to
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  Speaker 5: be the same player?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 7: Is he going to be the defensive player of the year?
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  Speaker 7: That would surprise me. Is he going to be a
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  Speaker 7: really tough player that other teams get to game? Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I do think that that's going to be the case.
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  Speaker 7: And when you pair him with miles Garrett, it's going
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  Speaker 7: to become even more so like that.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, how does the NFL think about these players?
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  Speaker 6: Who go to training camps, play for the team for
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  Speaker 6: a bit, and then go back to college.
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  Speaker 3: Does the NFL have any say so? I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: colleges care. What does the NFL think?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but the NFL has made it clear. It sent
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  Speaker 7: out a memo last week at the owner's meetings, Vic. Like,
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  Speaker 7: players aren't allowed to be in two drafts. Like, you're
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  Speaker 7: in one draft. You get drafted, great.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to be eligible for one draft in your life.
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  Speaker 5: That's it.
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  Speaker 7: You can't be eligible, try out, go back to college,
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  Speaker 7: reenter the draft.
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  Speaker 5: It ain't going to happen like that.
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  Speaker 7: So the league has existing rules in place. We've never
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  Speaker 7: really known about them. We've never known that they had
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  Speaker 7: to be enforced or even read aloud. But that's what's
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  Speaker 7: going on right now. There are rules against this. The
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  Speaker 7: league is safeguarded against this. They will continue to do so.
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  Speaker 7: And it's only come to light now with all the
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  Speaker 7: recent current events in the football and college football world.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you talked to Moj 20 years ago. I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: even believe where we are now, Adam. And I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: believe that it's even possible for a guy to be
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  Speaker 2: a free agent or whatever it is, be in an
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  Speaker 2: NFL training camp and then go back to college. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, it's just the wild West nowadays. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? It's just, nothing surprises me anymore.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we're in unprecedented times and these are, I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 7: it's like, You could have a player making more playing
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  Speaker 7: for LSU than you could playing in the NFL. That
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  Speaker 7: tells you where we're at, the oddity of today. How
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  Speaker 7: could a player actually make more from LSU than the
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  Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns?
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  Speaker 5: But that's possible, and that's the world we're living in.
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  Speaker 3: Last thing for you, Adam. Appreciate the time. I know
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  Speaker 3: it's the week before the week, but what's your number
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  Speaker 3: one story heading into the season?
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: Number one story heading into the season.
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, what I would just say is that the games
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  Speaker 7: are here. Like week one is coming. There's going to
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  Speaker 7: be great storylines that are in fold. Like every summer,
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  Speaker 7: there's something last summer. It was the summer of Micah Parsons.
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  Speaker 7: The year before was the summer of, I think it
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  Speaker 7: was like wide receiver holdouts, like CD lamb. This summer
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  Speaker 7: was Aaron Donald.
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  Speaker 5: He's back.
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  Speaker 7: So to me, you know, going into the season, what's
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  Speaker 7: the number one story? Well, who's going to win the
• 14:59
  Speaker 7: Superbowl in LA? Like that's the number one story. It's,
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: It's predictable, but it's true like that. Everybody's starting the
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: season and there's a lot of teams that believe that
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: they're in a good spot and where they need to
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: be to have a realistic chance to make a realistic
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: run at reaching the Super Bowl in LA, which if
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: you haven't heard, it's on ABC and ESPN.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: There you go. Adam Schefter joins us every single week.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Appreciate the time, Adam.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Heard a little something about that. Good to see you, buddy. Thanks, man.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Guys, have a great week. We'll talk next week after
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: Labor Day. That's wild too.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Wow. Adam Schefter joins us every single Thursday.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Adam.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Again, I do. It sounds dumb because, Moshe, I know
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: you're all gung-ho about Donald and Garrett playing together. When's
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: the last time a guy in the NFL hasn't played
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: for three years and came back?
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, we just watched it with Gabe. Yeah, that
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen in the NFL.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Three years?
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't happen. Not in the NFL, it doesn't.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about the other thing, too.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: You mentioned about the Rams going all in, and they
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: clearly are. I mean, if there's a time to go
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: all in, it'd be now because also the Super Bowl
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: is in L.A.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: It's at SoFi.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: So if there's ever a year to take a big swing, this.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Is it for them.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: It's Super Bowl and SoFi. You have a 38-year-old quarterback
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: who's coming off an MVP season. Who knows how long.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: That's going to last.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you take a big swing?
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Back after this. All right. Back to back. Big time interviews.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: We had....
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Joe Sackick followed up by Adam Schefter. So if you
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: missed that, it'll be on the podcast shortly. iTunes, Spotify, Mojo, Lombardi,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: and Kane. Reminder to you guys, we have the Rock, Paper,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Scissors contest. We're sending somebody tonight to Kansas City. A
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: trip for two, airfare, hotel, and tickets to the Opener.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Denver at KC, and if you did not qualify via text,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: you can just show up there tonight at Rooftop Social
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: in Rhino, and we're picking at least four people to
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: participate in this thing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: It seems like it's still too good of a prize, man.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Who told you that?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: That's happening at 6 o'clock tonight, so come by, say hi,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and maybe you got a chance.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Who knows?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: An at-large bid going to KC?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: So what am I supposed to do between now and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the kickoff on the 14th? Well, there's a lot of
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: other football games. Yeah, true, true. I mean, starting Thursday night,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I dig.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: What's funny about these games this week, these college games,
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: first of all, it's not funny, it's interesting. The big rivalry,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: the in-state rivalry games. Do you know who plays in
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: the Apple Cup?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington and Washington State. That's this week. Yeah, but
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Washington State, bro, they're homeless. I know, I know, but
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, what.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Used to be reserved for late season, rivalry week, it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: now week one, right?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: So is the border war. Wyoming and CSU.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: It's week one now.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: A lot of these games, because of the change in
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: conferences and all this stuff, they're moving their dates, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: now at least you kick off the season with a bang.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I'm looking something up right now because I just saw
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Bronco Nagurski.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: What about him?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: So he retired from the Bears in 1937 due to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: a contract dispute, and then he came back to play
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: in 1943. It's a pretty long layoff between playing.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: In other sports, I mean, World War II caused a
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: wreak havoc, obviously. Ted Williams took time off. Yogi Berra
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: took time off. Bob Feller took time off.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Baseball shut down for a year, like for four years.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Bronco Nagurski came back and he had 16 carries for
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: 84 yards. That was the rest of his career.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he came back a little less than he
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: was before. You know, you've got... Vic, you were talking
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: about the spreads this week, right? Overall, even on the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: weekend itself, you know, 27 and a half, 42 and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: a half, 40 and a half, 31 and a half,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: except LSU against Clemson. That's already a pretty damn big
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: game to start things out.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute. Sorry. One last thing on this.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: How can we forget?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Guys, this just happened the year before last year. Somebody
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: was out of the league for four years and came
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: back and played. Phil Rivers?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Phil Rivers, yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I totally forgot Philip Rivers came back and plays.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: As a short stint.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was, you know, not even half.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: It played in three games. Yeah. College football starting up though.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I do want to go back. We were talking about
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: CU for a second. Um, and a texture said, maybe
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I said about Juju coming back to the same system.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: What I meant was the same team really just in,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: in college football. If you have a quarterback that returns
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to the same team, that's a rarity. You don't get
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: guys who play two years in a row, and I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: think you should have a pretty high expectation, despite the
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: fact that Juju's still, what, 18? But two years at
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the same place, I think, expect something from him.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: College football has become the ultimate mystery.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Box because of all the transfers and all the new
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: players and all the, just everybody's gone. And you start
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: a new every season. I can't wait to see what
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: the buffs look like Thursday night, because I have no idea.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: It's a new offense. It's a new coordinator.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: It's a new defensive coordinator, bunch of new players. I
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: have no idea what we're going to see. And you're
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: lying to yourself if you think you do. I hope
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: what I don't see is more, like, timeout errors and
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: costly turnovers and penalties and this and that because that
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: won't bode well.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: That's such a great point, Vic. Like, if nothing else,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: can we eliminate this? Can I set this standard for
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: CU this year? Because I don't know what their record's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: going to be. I don't know how good their team is.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know any of that stuff. Can we just
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: set a baseline here going into year four for Deion
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: and Can we cut out the mental BS, the mental
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: miscues that happen seemingly every week?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Do you call timeout there?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Like clock management stuff, when to use timeouts.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Do you call timeout there?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Pre-snap penalties. Can we just cut that stuff out for
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: this year?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So when was the time to call timeout?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, do you guys remember? I was like
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: incensed last year after that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I know. I think everybody should have been. All of
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: us fans should have been.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And I was like, don't. I've played Madden. I know
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: when to use my timeouts. Okay, don't act like I'm
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: crazy for saying you should have taken a timeout.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I'm one of those good weather men.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: This felt like, it felt like the Hackett first game
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: where you're seeing, you know, Peyton's doing this over and
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: over again on the Monday Night Football set. And it's like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: everybody knows that's when you take the timeout. But to
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: be in the post game and tell me, act like
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm wrong.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: No. Let's do drills that say.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: It won't rain.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Actually, this CU game against Georgia Tech, I am looking
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: at the lines. I'm looking at the point spreads of
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: all college football this week. It's really when college football
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: gets going. Do you know, I've counted right now. I'm
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: going down this list. There are less than 10 games
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: on the slate.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: 10 out of what?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: 60? Less than 10.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Games with single-digit point spreads.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Think about that.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: For the entire first week?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: For the entire first week of college football.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Every game's a blowout. Every game is expected to be
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: a blowout.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, Old Dominion's favored by 41.5 over Norfolk State.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Ohio State's favored by 50 over Ball State. Virginia Tech, 55.5
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: over VMI. BYU, 51.5 over Utah Tech. What the hell
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: is Utah Tech?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Never heard of it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: What in God?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: What is Utah Tech?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Speaking of, never heard of? Guys, I got a couple
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: more for you as I'm going down this list.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: UTSA, which, again, they have a football program.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: UTSA is favored by 28.5 over something called UT Rio GV.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Again, UT, University of Texas, Rio GV.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That's Rio Galveston. Rio Grande Valley, okay. It's got to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: be Galveston. No, it's Rio Grande Valley. Is that what
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that is?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: It's got to be Rio Grande, right? Rio Grande something.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: When the hell is that?
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: And by the way, Utah Tech was what used to
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: be Dixie State.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: That's what we talked about them before. Dixie State in Utah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: that's right. Here it is, Vic. I got it for you.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Where is it?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's a public research university with its main campus in Edinburgh, Texas.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, hang on, hang on. New Mexico State is playing Mercyhurst. Yeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I looked at that one, too. Where is Mercyhurst?
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, hang on.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Let's just offer a suggestion.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: I'm going to say Mercyhurst is in Mississippi or Arkansas.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: No, I bet it's in New Jersey. Where is it?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Look, I would have guessed more with Vic because I
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: think of Mercy. It's got to be like Jersey. Oh, Mercy.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I just think Southern.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: It's Pennsylvania.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania. Okay.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Tennessee is favored by 46.5 over Furman.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Where's Furman located?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Furman is in Carolina, right? Yeah, it's in North Carolina,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Is Furman in the Carolinas? I don't know.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Check it out.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, if you're looking it up. Yeah, Greenville, South Carolina.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, South Carolina. Damn it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Boom.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: You win a prize for that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Do you know which... I counted them up, Vic. There's
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: 11 games that are single-digit spreads the first week of
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: college football if you go all the way to Monday
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: where it's SMU and Florida State.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Do you know what one of those 11 single-digit spreads are?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, CU and Georgia Tech. Six and a half.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: And.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And CSU and Wyoming.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: CSU, Wyoming. Two of the best.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Games of the weekend are Colorado teams.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, every other game is expected to be
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: a blowout.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: So, that's where we are. I mean, last time I
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: watched a UT Rio GV game. Jesus.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: This is what we've come to. And I get it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Football is a big part of our culture. It's the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: American culture. There are too many teams.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: Not everybody has to have a football program. DU's done
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: very well without football. University of Denver has carved its
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: own niche. They don't have a football program. Gonzaga doesn't
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: have a football program. There's a lot of teams out there,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: a lot of schools who have achieved greatness without football.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Not every team has to have a damn football team.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Why does it bother you that UTGRV has a school?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's saturated the market.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me. I think it's saturation. It's saturation.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: That's all it is. You want to pay somebody a
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: million bucks to go get their butts kicked? I'll sign
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: up for it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Let's put me and Moe's quarterback and running back.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: My sister went to med school at UTGRV, heck of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a school.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they make great gynecologists. Okay.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: They play great football. Oh, good for you. Kansas is
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: a 39.5 point favorite over LIU post.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Long Island, baby.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Post.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: What's post?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I told you it used to be CW Post.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: So now they just combined them and called it LIU Post?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like it. All right, how about this one?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: You know the one that always screwed me up doing
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: college basketball was IUPUI. All right, I got another one
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: with letters.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: You ready for this one?
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Missouri is a 53.5 point favorite over UAPB.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: UAPB.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: UAPB.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Arkansas Pine Bluff.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. That's what I think it is.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Arkansas Pine Bluff's been.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Around for a while. Okay. I know that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: It just, it just hit me as I'm reading.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Now I feel stupid.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, let's go ahead and do this. Mosher
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: said he wanted to do it. Let's do it. Cause
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: we missed it with Joe Sackett. Let's do a little, Oh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: by the way, stories around sports in the world. We
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: feel like you should be aware of. I need to
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: start with this though. Um, Jonathan Kaminga had a $ 75
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: million offer on the table from the Golden State Warriors.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: He turned that down and he bet on himself. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: this is a classic case of when betting on yourself
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: goes wrong. He then signed a two-year deal at $ 6. 5
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: million a year. Half a million more than Spencer Jones' contract.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: His agent went on a podcast with Kevin O'Connor. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: need you to listen to the introduction that Kevin O'Connor
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: gives Aaron Turner... agent of Jonathan Kaminga.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: All right, joining me now is NBA agent Aaron Turner. Aaron,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: how are you doing?
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: I'm good, Kevin.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: How are you doing?
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: So Jonathan Kaminga just signed a two-year, $ 12. 4 million deal.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: Gilbert Arenas called it a Costco member deal. Ty Lawson said,
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: pack your agent up immediately. Sam Vecini called it malpractice.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: Max Kellerman said you're hustling backwards. It's been a busy
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: weekend for you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Aaron Turner.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: How would Aaron Turner describe everything that's transpired this past year, though?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Goodness gracious. Holy cow.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Everybody who's respected in this sport thinks that you're an
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: idiot and a bum.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I'm now joined by the dumbest human alive.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Seriously.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Aaron Turner, explain yourself.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: You didn't soft pedal anything there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Who was the cleanup hitter for the Arizona Diamondbacks? Oh,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: by the way.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Is it Aronado?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: It's Marte. Oh, yeah. Marte started the lineup. Yeah, he's
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: sort of been an at-will employee. He went AWOL on
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: August 17th. And stayed away from the team for two weeks. Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And then he comes back and they put him right
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: in the lineup hitting cleanup. Obviously got some things going on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Moshe. I don't know if you
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: know the other part. Like, nobody knows any details around
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: this story. That's why it's been a big thing. It's
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: so weird. And the Diamondbacks are good. Like, they're, what,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: 70 games over 500, something like that? They asked the
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: manager about it like two weeks ago, and he started
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: tearing up when they asked him about Quetel Marte. So
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: there's something happening that they just don't want to make public,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I suppose?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think they were back east someplace. It was like
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: they were in New York or they were in Philly.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe Boston. Boston. And he just is gone. Now he
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: was rehabbing his knee, and then he went to the casino,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you an example.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: But that's just so weird to me, man.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: There was... Now, Brenton Doyle didn't go AWOL. Like, they
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: put him on a list. I forget what it's called.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: It wasn't IL. But when his wife had a miscarriage,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, it could be something like that. You know
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, it could be a number of
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: different things. I don't think there's anything nefarious to this story.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I think it's just, it's weirding people out that they
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: don't have any details to it. Where a star player
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: on a team that's going to make the playoffs, likely,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: just kind of disappears and nobody says anything as to why.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's the weird part of the story to me. When
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I saw the manager tear up when they asked about it,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I don't know what's going on here,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: but it's probably not good. I don't know.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I got another one for you. Oh, by the way,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the San Diego Padres are calling up a 20-year-old catching
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: prospect named Ethan Salas. Move comes as major league baseball
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: active rosters expand from 26 to 28. He's the youngest
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: catcher to be called up to the bigs since whom?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: The youngest catcher since?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Posey.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Nope. Yogi Berra.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Longer back?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Longer back. Way farther? 1991, this guy was called up.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: All right, hang on.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Sandy Alomar. Nope.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Benito Santiago.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Santiago. Nope. Pudge Rodriguez, Hall of Famer. That's my next one.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So anyway, if you're 20 years old and you're getting
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: called into the bigs for the stretch run, that's kind
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: of cool, right?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: That is cool.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: A little Crash Davis, a little cup of coffee in
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the bigs. I have a note, by the way.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Remember I said, gosh, why are there so many NBA
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: teams being.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Bought and sold, right?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So the numbers now are in front of me.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Since 2019, over the last seven years, the NBA's had
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: 13 sales sales of teams 13 of them have been
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: sold in the last seven years that blows away every
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: other professional league it's only three sold NFL teams in
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: that time span and five in major league baseball and
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: yet the NBA's had 13 of them it's almost half
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: the league yeah you might think to yourself what is
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: going on and yet the NBA.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Their revenue Their record revenue, the net worth of these teams,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: has sextupled in those seven years. That's how much they've
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: increased in value. At some point, you're just like.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: All right, I have 4x to my money.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Exactly right.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to cash out. That's what it is. The
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Boston Celtics guys did it in the perfect spot, did
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: they not? You win a title, you're like, she's for sale.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: You know what it is? It's that ridiculous, well, not ridiculous.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: It's that gorgeous television, national television package that they got
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: two years ago that just skyrocketed the revenues of these teams.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I cannot believe, I really can't believe they got the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: kind of money for that. Are they getting, well, you
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: talk about ratings, Vic, you know better than me. Is
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: it worth it?
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: You are what the market says you are. Tua put
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: out an Instagram post, by the way, that was pictures
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of him in a Falcons uniform from the preseason games,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and it says, Tua for the A, Atlanta. The first
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: response that he got was, we're so proud of you,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: you got this heart emoji from Tua.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Wait, he talked to himself and said we're proud?
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: What?
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, might be a, I forgot to switch the burner emoji.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I forgot to switch the burner account. And yeah, it's
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: pretty embarrassing. Pretty embarrassing.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: If you want, if you want to know how to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: do that, you got to talk to Kevin Durant.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: You guys want to hear something crazy here in a
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: five year span. The Oakland Raiders in 2002, they drafted
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: linebacker Napoleon Harris. Do you know the very next pick was?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Ed Reed.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: In 2004, they drafted Robert Gallery. You know who the
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: next pick was? Larry Fitzgerald. In 2005, they drafted Fabian Washington.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: You know who the next pick was? Aaron Rodgers.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: What's sad is I know all those names they drafted
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: at the time.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Robert Gallery was going to, yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: In 2007, they drafted Jamarcus Russell. The very next pick
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: was Calvin Johnson.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: That's pretty brutal in a five-year stretch to have that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: You could have had Fitzgerald and Megatron on the same team.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Ed Reed, Fitzgerald, Megatron, and Aaron Rodgers.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty good roster, man. That's pretty good, dude.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Pretty good team. One last one for the way out here.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't know this was happening until Nelly sent this
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: last night. We were having a Tupac murder trial. Yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I saw that, and I was like, wait. And the
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: guy's guilty? They found the guy who killed Tupac?
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: How'd that happen?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know the law. Is there a statute of limitations?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Not on murder, there isn't.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Not on murder one.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Apparently not.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: How did this happen, though? After all the years of
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: nobody knows anything about anything in him and Biggie's murders.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Because this guy talked. Oh, he's a loud mouth? It's
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: one of the first convictions to come down with really
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: no evidence other than a confession.
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: Okay, but.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Don't people falsely confess to crime sometimes, like high-profile ones?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then they started to put things together, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: they placed him there, and his nephew got beat up earlier,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: or his brother or somebody. Hmm. I don't know.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Dwayne Kef D. Davis was found guilty of orchestrating the
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: murder of Tupac Shakur.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, usually every day around 845.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Yes, Marsha.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Which is why I got so excited when Nelly came
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: back with a bumper California love earlier in the program.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Throw it up, throw it up!
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, one last thing, by the way.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: What?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Did you guys see that Justin Herbert's brother is now
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: on the Chargers? That Patrick Herbert tight end, his bro?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was his brother.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Isn't it?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Is Giannis his brother on the team? Yeah, and that's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Jake Plummer's kid playing for Ball State.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: That perhaps was the greatest. No, no, that's his older brother.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: It is Justin Herbert. The Jake Plummer thing was the
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: greatest error I think ever we've ever heard.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: On the show.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: What, Jack?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Come on, man.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, as we roll on, I want you guys to
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: hear something from Spittin' Chicklets. We had Joe Sackick on.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: You heard the news conference yesterday. You want to get
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: another idea as to really how awesome this is?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get to the Chicklets next.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard of Bruce Hornsby in the range in
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a long time, man. What? What? This is Bruce Hornsby
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: in the range.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Nope, this is Tupac changes.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is Tupac, but that's... Oh my God, that
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: is so good.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: This is Tupac.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Isn't that just... That is so good. That's just the.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Way it is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I see no changes.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Wake up in the morning when I ask myself. Is
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: life worth living? Oh my God. One guy lives in
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: the 80s.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: His literal brain is stuck in the 80s.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: It hasn't moved. It is idle.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: It dropped off in 1985. It hasn't moved.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Well, fine.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Bruce Hornsby in the range.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: But it's just a classic example of that. I mean,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: it was just so beautifully laid out.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, Moshe, it is a sample of that song.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You're right. Well, I'm not as dumb as I look then.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Now do in the air tonight and now do a
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: couple more samples and see what happens.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: See what, hey, that's Phil Collins.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I don't do samples, man.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: What do you mean you don't do samples?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I do real music. I don't do samples. Really? Yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Everything's a sample, Moshe. Everything's been Everything's been redone.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Hang on a second. Did Van Halen take any samples?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: No, but Tone Loke sampled Van Halen. Tone Loke sampled
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Van Halen.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: He says they haven't. No, they did not. They did not.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: The intro drum track. This is from Jamie's Crying.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Right here.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Crank it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I've told you guys this. It's so funny.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: This will always be Tone Loke. It will not be
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Jamie's Crying.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. Whether it's Wild Thing or Funky
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Cold Medina or whatever from Tone Loke, I knew those songs.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: But this is what's funny. When I was a kid,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I loved Ace Ventura. Had no idea that that was him.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: But when you get to Funky Cole Medina, the guitar
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: riff is from Forrest.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: That's okay. That's okay.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Check it and see. I do have an important question, though, Brett.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Do you like Regulators by Warren G, or do you
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: prefer our boy Michael McD?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Regulators is better.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: It is better. That's a tough one.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's the best of both worlds. Regulators is
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the best of both worlds when you think about it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: It's the same... It's the same song, but updated a bit.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It's like Yacht Rock.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: A little Yacht Rocky. Yeah, a little Yacht Rocky.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: All right, so can I get to my thing now?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Is that cool? Yeah, let's do it.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Spitting Chicklets, it's announced that Kale McCarr is going to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: agree to a brand new contract. And Ryan Whitney, who
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: played the position in the National Hockey League for an
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: awfully long time, was ecstatic.
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: At this point, who cares if it's 160, 164?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I said right away on Twitter, underpaid. I don't know
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: what to say. And I had analytical people saying, what
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: are you talking about?
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going eye test on this guy, boys. He is,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: second best player in the league are we giving mcdavid
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: number one mckinnon's right there either way he's one of
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: the greatest defensemen to ever play the things he does
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: on the ice his skating his vision he competes like
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: a mother out there and it's just like a dream
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: player he was built in a lab i love watching
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: the abs play mainly because of him it's incredible what he.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Does so anybody who would question hey gonna get.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: It done.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: It's funny, I asked Joe, I said, hey man, is
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: this as big a no-brainer as you've had? Or I said,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: is this the biggest? He's like, well, yeah, that and
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Nate's last contract, that's as no-brainer as it gets in
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the NHL. But look at Nate's.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Nate was the highest-paid player in the league, and now
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Nate is signed for Peanuts.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Well, it ain't Peanuts, but it ain't what guys are
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: getting this year.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: When people are making $ 20 million and Nate is a
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: top-three player in the world, it is Peanuts.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: It's 12.6.
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: And it'll be 12.6 this year and next year and
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: the year after that and the year after that and
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: the year after that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: So think about that far down the line.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: So yes, it is.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Hey, before we close the show, for those who missed it,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: the manner in.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: Which the Colorado Rockies lost last night, their 10th straight
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: at Coors Field, which is a franchise record, all right?
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: They're on the way to another 100-loss season, but the
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: fact they've lost 10 in a row at Coors Field,
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: and that's never been done before in the history of
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Coors Field. As bad as some seasons have gone, They've never,
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: ever lost double digits straight at home. Well, they did
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: last night, and they did it in the most ridiculous way.
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: They had a chance to walk off the Orioles. The
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: ball was hit 425 feet, man.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, it was well done. McCarthy's at the dish.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: He hits one to center field. It looks like a
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: walk-off homer, and then this happens.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Go, go, go!
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Fly ball, deep center field, going back.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Cousins still going back.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Leaves.
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: He caught it!
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness!
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: That went from a winger to the most painful loss.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: In a while.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: That bang you heard was the dude banging against the wall.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: That's the Drew version. Did you hear the Orioles version?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Make your pitches, but know where to miss.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: McCarthy deep center field. Couser racing back. Couser near the wall.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Jumps.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Couser!
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: He made the catch! He made the catch! It might
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: be the.
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: Greatest home run robbery game-ending catch you'll see in your life!
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: You've got to be kidding me! Unbelievable! The Orioles win it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: They are 500 for the first time in four months.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: So again, just to put context on this, the Orioles
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: with that win are now a half game back of
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: the wild card. It's huge for them at 500, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I want people to, to understand something. If you hit
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a ball 425 feet, there is no reason that should
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: not be out of the park. I, It's got to
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: be the longest home run that's ever been robbed. But
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: here is the stat from OptiStats. The walk-off home run
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: went an estimated 425 feet. It's the longest distance of
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: a game-ending robbery of a potential walk-off home run in
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: the wildcard era.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, the deepest part of Coors Field has to be.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Has to be.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any other home run that's
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: been robbed.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Past 425 feet. I do. The Polo Grounds.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Vic Wirtz hit a ball estimated to be almost 450
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: feet at the Polo Grounds.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Willie Mays steal it?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: The Willie Mays catch over the shoulder. Well, that's not
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: a home run robbery. Yeah, but that wasn't over the fence, though.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: No, that was just.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: But that would have been a home run. I know, but.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: This one was, listen, I'm going to respect the Willie
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Mays catch like no other.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: This was harder.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: This guy ran full speed, turned, slammed against the wall
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: at full speed. His glove had to be two feet
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: past the fence when he made the catch, and he
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: landed directly on his tailbone.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: He's going to have to see a chiropractor today because
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: he hit that wall as hard as you can hit
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: a wall.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: You heard it on the first call.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: It was ridiculous.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: It was Colton Calliser who made the catch, by the way.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: It was insane. Absolutely insane.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: By the way, that guy better be able to field.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: He's a 218 career hitter. Dude, think about this.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Think about how good the American League East is. The
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Orioles are now fourth place in the.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: East, 500.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: And they're right there in the wild card race. The
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: team behind them, the Blue Jays, they're two games below 500,
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: and they're right.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: There in the wild card race. Every team in that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: division is in playoff position.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, so this reminds me, last year, the NFC South
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: got the Panthers into the playoffs with an 8-9 record, right?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: And in the NFC North, not a single team finished
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: with a below 500 record. All four teams in that
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: division all finished above that 500 mark. That's like the
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: AL East. The AL East is always like this, though.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Always.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Because you know who's good again? Surprise, the Rays!
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Ray is just always good.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Always good at baseball. No payroll. No money. No nothing.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Just always got being surprised by them being good. They
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: must have the best scouting staff in baseball. They have
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: no money. And they're always winning.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Think about how long it's been since. You guys remember
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Evan Longoria? Remember him?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Think about how long it's been since Evan Longoria. They've
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: been that good all the time.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: It's insane.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Vic, Polo Grounds, New York City. Your former stomping grounds. 1954,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: how far was center field?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: 478 feet. I think it's over five.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I think 490. 483 feet to dead center.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's because it's not a baseball stadium. But see,
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: they also played football games there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they played everything there, including polo. It's not a
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: baseball stadium. Now it's a couple of apartment buildings or something. Joke.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Nelly, fact check, please.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: So I can't believe I haven't brought this up on
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the show yet. A couple months ago, Carolina M.I.C.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Our boy who wrote the If You Had $ 150, 000 song,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: he tracked us down and he emailed our boss and
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: he reached out to him and said, hey, I hear
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: you guys have been playing my song. I appreciate it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Way to give me some spins. Let me know if
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: you ever want to chat. And so I emailed him
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: back and I asked how he found us. And evidently,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: when you release your music on streaming services, Apple Music
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: has an artist portal that will track if radio stations fail.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Spin your songs.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: And so our call letters appeared on that, and so
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: he tracked us down, emailed Kevin, and he said that
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: so far, we're the only radio station that has responded
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: to him.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, can we ask him to make a song for us?
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I asked him if he wanted to do a.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I want a theme song for us.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: I asked him if he wanted to do a Broncos
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: or Colorado-specific version.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, do it for the show. No, ask
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: him to do Moser, Lombardi, and Kane. Yes, Moser, Lombardi,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: and Kane song. And say we'll use it as an intro.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I'll see if he's down to do that because he
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: was not down with doing a Colorado or Denver sports
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: themed 150,000. Probably residual pain from Super Bowl 50, you know,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: no hurt feelings.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: He's got his teams. We can't ask him to do that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: But to make one for our show.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I can start it out. If you have three hours
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: to kill.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Nope. Why don't you write it for him if you're
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: so sure of yourself? No, but he's the artist. You
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: let him. Look, no ghost writers for Carolina MIC. Make
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: your own stuff.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: If. Yeah. Can you guys.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Imagine every day at 7 o'clock if this is what
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: you heard?
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Carolina, MIC.
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: Get on it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: iTunes, Spotify, Mojo, Lombardi.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: And Kane.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Have a wonderful Tuesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Love you.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: See you.