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- 1:12Hello, and welcome to this episode of the Happiness in
- 1:15Retirement podcast, because the road to retirement
- 1:20should be an adventure, not a survival strategy.
- 1:24Thank you for joining me today. I'm your host, Bill Del-Sette. Let's get
- 1:28right into it. You know, there are some relationships in life
- 1:31that are temporary. You may drive the same car for five or
- 1:34six years. You may live in a house for a decade and then move.
- 1:38You may have a favorite restaurant, a favorite vacation spot,
- 1:42maybe even a favorite routine, but it can come and go over
- 1:45time. I believe, humbly, that your relationship with
- 1:50a financial advisor should be different. It's not a
- 1:53fling, and here's why. When you choose the right
- 1:56financial advisor, you're potentially choosing someone who will
- 1:59walk beside you and your family for decades. And
- 2:03ideally, that relationship doesn't end with you. You
- 2:06see, it can continue with your spouse, it continues with
- 2:09your children, and maybe someday it even continues with
- 2:14your grandchildren. It should be multi-generational. You
- 2:18see, it should be about understanding a family. How do
- 2:21you put a price tag on being known? So think
- 2:25about what happens when you've worked with someone for 20 or 30 years.
- 2:29Your advisor doesn't simply know how much money you have. They
- 2:33know the story behind the money. They remember when you were
- 2:36building your career and wondering whether you could afford to buy your first home.
- 2:40They remember when your children were young and college seemed
- 2:43a long way away. I have many stories about the
- 2:46kids of our current clients at Del Sette Capital, and
- 2:50for many years I actually had a coloring on my
- 2:53refrigerator made with crayons of my car.
- 2:57parked in their driveway, and those kids today are now
- 3:00adults. They remember when you were trying to decide whether to
- 3:04start a business, sell a business, retire, or work a little
- 3:07longer. They remember the market downturns when you were nervous. They
- 3:11remember the opportunities you were excited about. And then remember
- 3:14the mistakes you made, and hopefully they helped you avoid a
- 3:17few mistakes as well. You see, over time,
- 3:21an advisor learns something that no financial statement can
- 3:24completely capture. They learn you. They
- 3:28understand your relationship with money. the psychology of
- 3:32money that you may have. They understand what makes you
- 3:35nervous. They understand what gives you confidence. And they certainly know
- 3:39your goals and dreams and desires. They understand the difference between
- 3:42what you say is important and what your decisions reveal is
- 3:46actually important to you. And that knowledge, friends, is
- 3:50enormously valuable. And just like money, it
- 3:54can compound. You see, we talk a lot in
- 3:57financial planning about compound interest. Money earns money,
- 4:01and that money earns more money. And over decades, something that started
- 4:04relatively small can become very significant. And
- 4:08I think relationships work the same way. You see, every
- 4:11conversation adds another layer. Every decision
- 4:15adds another piece of information. Every market cycle
- 4:19adds perspective, every major life transition adds
- 4:23history to the file. And eventually, your advisor
- 4:26doesn't have to start from scratch every time you walk into the
- 4:30office. They understand the context, how important is
- 4:33that, the context of your life. They know why certain decisions
- 4:37were made or not made. They know what matters to you, your
- 4:40relationship with your children and grandchildren. They
- 4:44understand the trade-offs you've made along the way. And
- 4:47that, friends, is very different from meeting someone for the first time
- 4:50and handing them a stack of statements. Now, consider
- 4:54that your financial life is like a movie, okay? When
- 4:57a new advisor first meets a family, they're seeing a snapshot in
- 5:01time. They're seeing the picture. Here's the portfolio. Here's the
- 5:04tax return. Here's the estate plan, here's the insurance,
- 5:08here's the house, here's the business, here's the retirement account. But
- 5:12those documents certainly don't tell the story of your
- 5:15life. A long-term advisor has watched the
- 5:18movie. They understand how you got here. And often, how
- 5:22you got here is essential to understanding where you should go next. Maybe
- 5:26you grew up in a family where money was always tight. That may
- 5:29explain why having a large amount of cash makes you feel safe. Maybe
- 5:32you watched your parents struggle financially in retirement. That
- 5:36may explain why running out of money is one of your greatest fears. Maybe
- 5:40you started a business from scratch and took enormous risks to build
- 5:43your wealth. That may affect the way you think about investing. These
- 5:47are not numbers, they are experiences. They're
- 5:51emotions, they're values. And good financial planning
- 5:54needs to understand your experiences, your
- 5:58emotions, and your values. The relationship should
- 6:02evolve with your life. So, think of it this way.
- 6:05The financial planning you need at 35 shouldn't look exactly like
- 6:09the planning you need at 55. and the plenty you need at 75 should
- 6:12be different again. Early in life, much of the focus may
- 6:16be on building. You're earning money, you're saving, you're investing, protecting
- 6:20your income, buying insurance to protect that income, raising
- 6:24children, funding college, maybe buying a home, starting
- 6:27a business. You're building your financial foundation. Then
- 6:32something begins to change. Now think about this. The
- 6:35focus starts moving from accumulating money to creating
- 6:39financial independence. You begin asking different questions.
- 6:43When can I stop working? How much money is enough? What kind
- 6:46of lifestyle can I afford? What would retirement actually look
- 6:50like for me? Eventually you cross another line. Now
- 6:53you're no longer simply accumulating money. You're using the money
- 6:57you've spent decades building and once again the questions change. How
- 7:00much can I spend? Where should the money come from? How should
- 7:04I invest now? When should I claim social security? Should
- 7:07I convert money to a Roth IRA? How should I manage taxes?
- 7:12How do I protect my spouse? That's a big one. How do I prepare
- 7:15for possible long-term care expenses? And what
- 7:18do I want to give my children? What experiences do I want while
- 7:22I'm still healthy enough to enjoy them? And ultimately, what
- 7:25do I want all of this money to accomplish? You see, a
- 7:29long-term financial advisor has the opportunity to help
- 7:32you navigate every one of these transitions because
- 7:35retirement is not the finish line. And one
- 7:39of the biggest misconceptions about financial planning is that retirement
- 7:43is the destination. We spend 30 or 40 years preparing for
- 7:46retirement as though we're approaching some financial finish line. But
- 7:50retirement could last another 25, 30, or maybe even 40 years
- 7:54with all the medical advances these days. So retirement isn't
- 7:57really the finish line, it's transition. And in
- 8:00many ways, it's where some of the most interesting financial planning begins.
- 8:04During your working year, success is often relatively
- 8:08easy to measure. Did we save enough? Did the portfolio grow?
- 8:12Did our income increase? Did our net worth increase? Retirement?
- 8:16is totally different. Now we're trying to convert financial success into
- 8:20life success. The questions become less about accumulation and
- 8:24more about meaning. What do I want my days to look like? Where
- 8:27do I want to live? Who do I want to spend time with? What do
- 8:30I want to experience? What am I still curious about?
- 8:34Boy, that's a great question. What gives my life purpose
- 8:38ultimately? And how can my money help me do more of those
- 8:41things? A financial advisor who has known you for many years is in a position
- 8:45to help you answer those questions, especially those of us
- 8:48that are registered life planners, but that's the topic of a
- 8:51different podcast. Then the family answers the
- 8:55picture. At some point something else happens. Your financial plan
- 8:58stops being only about you. Your children grow
- 9:02up, they begin careers, they get married. They buy homes.
- 9:06They have children of their own. Maybe they're starting businesses. Maybe
- 9:09they're trying to figure out how much house they can afford. Maybe
- 9:13they're deciding how much to contribute to a 401k. Maybe
- 9:16they're wondering whether they should buy life insurance. And maybe
- 9:19they're beginning to inherit some of the financial responsibility that
- 9:24you've carried for decades and help them to understand. And
- 9:28suddenly, Financial planning is now multi-generational.
- 9:32This is where an advisor can become far more than the person managing
- 9:36mom and dad's investment portfolio. You see, they
- 9:40can become a financial resource for the family.
- 9:44Your children shouldn't meet your financial advisor at your
- 9:47funeral. and I've always thought this is one of the most important ideas
- 9:51in multi-generational financial planning. They shouldn't meet
- 9:54your financial advisor only after you're gone. Now, think
- 9:57about the situation here, right? Mom or dad passes away,
- 10:01the family is grieving, there are investments, retirement accounts,
- 10:05insurance, real estate, estate planning documents, maybe
- 10:09trusts, maybe business interests, maybe tax
- 10:12issues, and in the middle of all that, someone hands the
- 10:16children the business card of a person they've never met. Now
- 10:19compare that with a family where the next generation already
- 10:23knows the advisor and his or her team. They've met,
- 10:26they've sat in meetings, they know where to call, they
- 10:30know who understands the plan, the advisor understands the
- 10:34family dynamics and the family relationship. So important, folks,
- 10:37they understand the estate plan, Maybe they helped in the creation
- 10:41of it, working with your attorney. They understand why certain decisions
- 10:45were made. They understand what mom and dad wanted the money to
- 10:48accomplish. That's a completely different experience. Maybe they've
- 10:52had more than one family meeting at their office to
- 10:55discuss these issues. Generational planning should
- 10:59begin before the wealth transfers. People
- 11:03often think estate planning is something that happens at death, but
- 11:06the best generational planning happens while everyone is still sitting
- 11:10around the table. It involves conversations, it involves education,
- 11:14it involves preparing people, it's not just
- 11:17numbers. Because eventually your children may inherit not just money,
- 11:21but responsibility and the values that
- 11:25you have instilled in them. And those aren't the same thing. Someone
- 11:29can inherit a million dollars and have absolutely no idea what to
- 11:32do with it. Someone can inherit a business and have no idea why
- 11:35it was structured the way it was. Someone can inherit a trust and
- 11:38not understand their parents' intentions. A
- 11:42financial advisory relationship can help prepare the
- 11:45next generation before that transition occurs.
- 11:49You see, money comes with a story. Every family with wealth
- 11:53has one. Maybe the wealth came from a business or it came from
- 11:56decades of saving and hard work. Maybe someone worked two jobs
- 12:00and the generation before them worked three. Maybe grandparents immigrated
- 12:04with very little. Maybe a family lived below its means for
- 12:0840 years. Maybe someone took enormous entrepreneurial risk.
- 12:11And maybe and probably. There were
- 12:15failures along the way. And eventually future generations may
- 12:19see only the result. They see the investment accounts, they
- 12:22see the house, they see the business, they see the inheritance, but
- 12:26they may not understand what went into creating it. And I
- 12:29think one of the most valuable things a multi-generational financial
- 12:33planning relationship can preserve is that the story
- 12:37behind the money, because the story contains Values,
- 12:41the things that matter to you. Hard work, discipline, patience,
- 12:46risk-taking, generosity, education, family, independence.
- 12:50Those values may ultimately be far more important than
- 12:54the account balances. You see, Wealth without context
- 12:58is just money. Imagine you're sitting on a plane about
- 13:01to take off and the stewardess gets up in front of everyone and
- 13:05starts talking about how to use the oxygen and
- 13:09what to do in the event of a crash. Now, do you really listen? Probably
- 13:13not. If you're like most people, you're just gonna go on and maybe look
- 13:16at your phone or do whatever it is you're doing. But instead,
- 13:20imagine that the pilot comes on the
- 13:24loudspeaker when you're in the air and says, folks, I
- 13:27think we're going to crash. Listen to how to use the
- 13:30safety equipment on the plane. I think you're going to listen. Same
- 13:34conversation, different context. You see, Wealth needs
- 13:38to have context. Otherwise, it's just money. It's just money.
- 13:41If you give the next generation money without context, you're just
- 13:45transferring assets. But if you transfer money along with the values
- 13:48that matter to you, and you transfer knowledge and preparation,
- 13:52you're transferring something much bigger. You are transferring stewardship.
- 13:57You're saying, this is what our family built. This is how we
- 14:00built it. This is what we believed was important and
- 14:04this is what we hope this money would make possible for you.
- 14:08Maybe to help us educate grandchildren, maybe to allow someone
- 14:11to start a business that provides security, maybe it supports a
- 14:15charity, maybe it creates experiences for the family, and maybe
- 14:19it simply gives future generations the freedom to make choices. that
- 14:23previous generations could not make. Money can
- 14:26do wonderful things, but somebody has to help a family think intentionally
- 14:30about what that money is for, and your advisor can
- 14:33become the family's financial historian. Interesting
- 14:37concept. There's another role a long-term financial advisor can
- 14:41play, and I think this role is significantly underestimated.
- 14:45Families forget things, people die, memories fade. Children
- 14:49may not know why mom and dad made certain decisions. But
- 14:52an advisor who's been involved for decades may and probably will
- 14:56remember. What was the trust created for? Why
- 14:59was that insurance policy purchased? Why did dad keep
- 15:03that piece of property? Why was one child given part of the business while
- 15:07another received different assets? Why was a certain charity
- 15:10important to mom and dad? That knowledge can provide valuable
- 15:14continuity and the advisor isn't replacing the
- 15:18family, they're helping preserve the financial context. surrounding
- 15:23the family decisions. So important to pass on those family
- 15:26values. Now, here's the thing. The advisory firm has
- 15:30a responsibility too. If we're asking families to
- 15:33think generationally, financial advisory firms need
- 15:36to think generationally too. Because guess what, folks? Advisors
- 15:41get older. I know, hard to believe. Advisors get older
- 15:44too. Advisors retire. And someday, the
- 15:48person who originally built the relationship may not be the person sitting
- 15:51across the table. Hard to believe, I know. So an advisory firm
- 15:55that wants to serve families for generations better be building something
- 15:59bigger than any one individual. It needs a team. It
- 16:02needs systems, and it needs a succession. It
- 16:05needs younger advisors who understand the firm's philosophy and
- 16:08the family it serves, and it needs to believe in that philosophy,
- 16:13and it needs to care as much as the original founding advisor. It
- 16:17needs institutional memory, because the goal shouldn't
- 16:20simply be for one advisor to have a 30-year relationship with a client. The
- 16:24goal should be for a family to have a 50, 60, or
- 16:28even a 100-year relationship with an advisory organization
- 16:32capable of serving generation after generation.
- 16:36You see, it goes from client relationship to family relationship both
- 16:40ways. That changes the way we should think about financial advice, doesn't
- 16:43it? And instead of asking who manages my investment account, The
- 16:47better question is, who understands my family's financial life? Who
- 16:50understands my family dynamics? Who understands my family values?
- 16:55Who understands where we've been? Where we're trying to
- 16:58go? And who understands our children? Who understands the
- 17:02decisions we've already made and why they were made? And
- 17:06who will still be there when the next generation needs help? That,
- 17:10my friends, is a very different relationship. You
- 17:13see, this is not a fling. It's so important when
- 17:16you choose a financial advisor to think like this. When
- 17:19you think about financial advice this way, the relationship begins to
- 17:23look very different. It's not about constantly shopping around for
- 17:26the hottest investment idea. In fact, if you start shopping
- 17:30around for an advisor every time his or her financial strategy
- 17:34underperforms or doesn't perform well, then you're
- 17:37gonna be in for a heap of trouble, in my opinion. It's
- 17:41not about jumping from strategy to strategy. When
- 17:44you work with an advisor, you're buying into their philosophy
- 17:48and approach. And it's certainly not about chasing whoever had
- 17:51the best performance last year. A great advisory relationship
- 17:55is built over the course of years. Conversation by
- 17:59conversation, decision by decision. Can't tell
- 18:02you how many kitchen tables I've sat around late at night in
- 18:06my career, driving home in snowstorms, driving around
- 18:09in my beat up old car when I first got my start to meet with people.
- 18:13Market cycle by market cycle. So important, life
- 18:16transition by life transition, and eventually the relationship
- 18:20contains something incredibly valuable, a history. And
- 18:24a history creates understanding, and it can create trust.
- 18:28And trust makes better conversations possible. You
- 18:31see, the real goal, in my humble opinion, is not
- 18:34simply to accumulate the biggest possible pile of money.
- 18:38Of course not, right? The goal is to use the money to build a
- 18:41life you love and to use that money for happiness
- 18:45and retirement, whatever that may mean for you. And if there's money
- 18:48left over to thoughtfully pass that opportunity to the people and causes you
- 18:52care about. An advisor can connect those two things, your
- 18:56financial resources and your family's values. And
- 18:59when that relationship works the way it should, it can become something
- 19:03that lasts far beyond a single retirement. It
- 19:06can last through careers, retirements, marriages, divorces,
- 19:10children, grandchildren, inheritance, and through many
- 19:14generations. When you're choosing a financial advisor,
- 19:18remember what you're really choosing. Don't jump around from advisor
- 19:22to advisor unless you have a compelling reason to leave,
- 19:25and certainly you might. But you're not simply choosing someone to manage
- 19:29an account. You're choosing someone who may become part of your family's
- 19:33financial life. for decades, maybe even friends, huh?
- 19:36I am blessed and lucky to work in this kind of
- 19:40business and to have built relationships with people over
- 19:44decades. I've been to weddings, funerals, birthdays. I've
- 19:48sat around the table in some incredibly important meetings.
- 19:51And in many cases, I know more about my clients than just
- 19:55about anyone. And that is incredibly important for
- 19:58me to understand the context of how they make decisions. And we
- 20:02know our clients' children in most cases. And
- 20:05we understand not only what you own, but why you built it. So
- 20:09important. It's not supposed to be a short-term relationship. It's
- 20:12not a fling. It's a relationship built around your family's financial
- 20:16goals and financial life. And when it's done well, it can
- 20:20last for generations. I'm Bill Del Setti, and this is
- 20:23the Happiness in Retirement Podcast. Thanks for listening, and
- 20:27until next time, remember this, folks, don't just build wealth,
- 20:31build the knowledge, relationships, and values with a financial advisory
- 20:35team that can help the next generation, maybe even
- 20:38the one after that, use it well. Talk to you soon. Bye-bye.
- 20:45That's it for today's episode of the Happiness in Retirement Program
- 20:49podcast. We hope you found some valuable insights to
- 20:52help you create the retirement you deserve. If you enjoyed this
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- 21:08time, here's to a happy, healthy, and financially secure