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Emergency ITB: What Now For Eagles After Losing Jaelen Phillips, Nakobe Dean In Free Agency? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on?
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Speaker 2: It's Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan. That's right, we're back
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Speaker 2: here on Inside the Birds. But day one of the
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Speaker 2: negotiating periods in the books, a lot of people have
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Speaker 2: signed and Adam. Two Philadelphia Eagles are not back, one
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Speaker 2: of them being Jalen Phillips. Who oh my, For the
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Speaker 2: second straight year a team just blows a guy out
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Speaker 2: of the water with a huge contract. Last year is
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Speaker 2: Milton Williams. This year, the Carolina Panthers get Jalen Phillips
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Speaker 2: for what's going to be a thirty million a year contract.
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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see when everything comes down.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of money.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, here's here's what this is what I think
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Speaker 3: is based on the reality of what happened to them
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Speaker 3: with Milt Williams last year. Carolina was not losing Allen.
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Speaker 3: Jalen Phipps. I know how badly Eagles want in the back.
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Speaker 3: They know that he wanted to be back there. But
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Speaker 3: if you're Jalen Phillips, if it's you, I'm sure it'll
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Speaker 3: be at least two years fully guaranteed. I'm sure at
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Speaker 3: least sixty millions fully guaranteed it's signing. Yeah not probably
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Speaker 3: eighty or ninety we'll see. But he had leverage, get
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Speaker 3: tremendous leverage, and there's just no way that it's a
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Speaker 3: massive overpay. Great job by his agent, but that's just
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Speaker 3: a massive overpay. He's not worth it. He's a good player.
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Speaker 3: He's me in today's NFL where the numbers are somewhere
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Speaker 3: around twenty three to twenty five million, and that's just
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Speaker 3: it's just a thirty million. It's insane, Like that's just insane.
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Speaker 3: But you know what, it's all it's good for the
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Speaker 3: players because now, if you're Tray Hendrickson, how in the world.
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Speaker 3: I only still as as we speak here, he's still available,
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Speaker 3: may not be in five minutes, but how do you
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Speaker 3: take less than thirty million for the season if you're Hendrickson,
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Speaker 3: it's a much better player. I know he's older, I
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Speaker 3: understand that, but he's proved way more proven player and
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Speaker 3: it's Jalen Phillips. But hey, good for him and the
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Speaker 3: Eagles have a hole.
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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, the Eagles have a whole. I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: That's a great point.
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Speaker 2: I forgot the Panthers were the team that was first
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Speaker 2: linked to Milton Williams. Last year there was a report
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Speaker 2: that they were finalizing a deal with him, and then
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Speaker 2: the Patriots swooped in with money that was just unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Twenty six million. Looks.
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Speaker 2: We said this, and I think Day one proved it
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Speaker 2: all right. The teams you gotta worry about in free
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Speaker 2: agency are the teams that have quarterbacks on rookie deals
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Speaker 2: that like their quarterback because then they have so much
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Speaker 2: more money to spend in free agency. And so you
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Speaker 2: saw the Raiders They're gonna have a quarterback on a
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Speaker 2: rookie deal.
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Speaker 1: They spent a.
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Speaker 2: Ton of money on Linderbaum and Jalen Naylor. The Commanders
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Speaker 2: wound up signing was it a Mafey or Oway? They
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Speaker 2: signed one of those guys for a decent amount of money.
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Speaker 2: They still have Jaden Daniels on their rookie deal. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, those are the teams that are out there
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Speaker 2: just spending a lot of money. And it's hard because
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Speaker 2: the Eagles and Howie have never wanted to overpay. They've
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Speaker 2: i had walkaway numbers. They want to do good business.
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Speaker 2: So here's where they're in a little bit of quant though.
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Speaker 2: Adam right, you just you just pointed it out. They
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Speaker 2: need edge rushers. Okay, they're the well is starting to
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Speaker 2: dry up.
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Speaker 1: They clearly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you shot up Roseman with truth serum,
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Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to sign a big name
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Speaker 2: free agent because then he wouldn't get per Se, the
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Speaker 2: third round pick that'll probably get for losing Jill and Phillips.
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Speaker 2: So he may have to explore the trade market. But
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Speaker 2: if you do that, you're giving up a pick anyway.
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Speaker 2: So why don't you go maybe try to go after
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Speaker 2: trade well.
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Speaker 3: I'm in what you can do when you can do it,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't cost you compenserate pick. Ause you could sign
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Speaker 3: Bradley Chubb, who knows the system. He does he's to
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Speaker 3: me and people know, Okay, who's out there, Bradley Chubb.
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Speaker 3: You know it's the system. Yes, he's had an injury history,
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Speaker 3: but guys still could flay football. They just they were
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Speaker 3: they were visceraating the roster in Miami that it was over,
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Speaker 3: like they were going to destroy the roster. Their total rebuilds.
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Speaker 3: They want to go younger. But yeah, so if you
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Speaker 3: look at the edge group, now, Cam Jordan, who's good,
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Speaker 3: probably gonna be Hall of fame player close to it Hendrickson,
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Speaker 3: it's going to cost a lot. But he's older, turns
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Speaker 3: thirty two in December. The son Reddick, don't see that happening,
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Speaker 3: Joy Bosa, you know about the injury, History's older player.
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Speaker 3: Chasing's a nice play young player who he's looking to
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Speaker 3: get paid.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: We've talked about Ebakhetty before. Yeah, and then John Grenard
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Speaker 3: is that that one. He's a plug and play guy,
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Speaker 3: thirty for front player, just played in it. You come
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Speaker 3: right in, but you know you have to give up
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Speaker 3: conversation to get him. Now. The question is because his
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Speaker 3: deal now looks undervalued with Minnesota, he probably deserves it
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Speaker 3: to get an increase. He's only making I say, only
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Speaker 3: nineteen million per season. Now he did sign two years ago. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I exactly two years ago, March of twenty four. Yep.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, the cash number he's got two years left
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Speaker 3: on his deal nineteen million, Yeah, nineteen million per season
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Speaker 3: total cash. Yeah, he's gonna want more money. I don't
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Speaker 3: blame him, but he's a good player, high character, been
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Speaker 3: a great story of development. But other than that, guys,
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Speaker 3: we'd pretty much mention everybody that's worth it. I mean
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Speaker 3: they're mid level guys out there, like Malcolm Koontz and
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Speaker 3: Ebukam who's formerly of the Colts and the Rams. Josai
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Speaker 3: actually signed already. I'm looking at my file, got update
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Speaker 3: that he's signed a free agent Deal's the journeyman like
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Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd gets you out of tough spot for a year,
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Speaker 3: so the young player's done. Like it's like, if you
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Speaker 3: sign job, you fit. You hope you can get two
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Speaker 3: years out of him. But the bottom line is it's
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Speaker 3: either you go for the guys we just talked about.
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Speaker 3: If you want to solid for at least one year,
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Speaker 3: we're drafting somebody high. Simple Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, now it's up to Jaylex Hunt to
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Speaker 2: take a big step up because even if they were
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Speaker 2: to trade for Grenard, who's a very good pass rusher,
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Speaker 2: he's a speed pass rusher. He's not the type of
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Speaker 2: speed slash power edge that Jalen Phillips was, which is
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Speaker 2: what made Jillen a really great fit. I almost think
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Speaker 2: from a fit standpoint, you were right to point out
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Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb because it's a bigger guy. Yeah, he's also
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Speaker 2: a guy who's probably on the downside.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's had some good years. He's I don't
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Speaker 1: know that. I don't know what's even price tag is.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he could have signed by now, but obviously
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Speaker 2: he probably wanted to see how the market was going
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Speaker 2: to be. He and his agent before they signed early.
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Speaker 2: They could have signed even before for because he was cut.
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Speaker 2: He could have signed it at any time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah. As a matter of fact, he is. Uh,
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Speaker 3: he turns thirty.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
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Speaker 3: Look, it's with Bradley Chubb. Last season. It wasn't like
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Speaker 3: he played poorly. It's like you have a new GM
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Speaker 3: a't in draft him.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: They typically want their own guys. He's an older player,
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Speaker 3: He's had a lot of injuries in his career. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: he could still play, no question about it. And to me,
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Speaker 3: he makes a ton of sense if they strike out
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Speaker 3: everywhere elsewhere else. He absolutely is good for getting you
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Speaker 3: out of a tough spot. And by the way, he
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Speaker 3: didn't miss a game last season.
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Speaker 1: How about that, right coming off an ACL Correct.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he didn't play it, he didn't. Correct, he
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Speaker 3: didn't play in twenty four He played every game, eight
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Speaker 3: f sacks, twenty quarterback hits. Had a good season. A
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Speaker 3: guy could still play. But again, gms, you're talking to
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Speaker 3: gms over the years, they typically want their own guys
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Speaker 3: when when they're turning over a new roster, you want
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Speaker 3: to get younger.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I actually kind of thought as soon as they lost
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Speaker 2: Jail and Phillips, we were going to see about ten
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Speaker 2: minutes later the Eagles signing Bradley Chubb. But we'll see,
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Speaker 2: we'll see, because now, well, how.
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Speaker 1: Old you say Choebu was thirty?
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Speaker 3: He turns thirty in June.
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Speaker 1: It's not turn thirty, okay. So he did actually have
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Speaker 1: a pretty good market.
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Speaker 2: And that's the thing that the Eagles are fighting is
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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of teams that want pass rushers,
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Speaker 2: a lot of teams with money to spend, a lot
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Speaker 2: of teams with quarterbacks that they like that are that
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Speaker 2: are on rookie deals. So that's what they'll have to
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Speaker 2: contend with. But it's it's it's a serious thing for
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Speaker 2: the Eagles. They pride themselves on their defensive front, on
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Speaker 2: their edge group, and they are about as thin as
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Speaker 2: thin can be because as we record this, with them
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Speaker 2: not making any moves unless they do while we record it,
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Speaker 2: they've basically got j Alex Hunt Jose Ramirez and.
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Speaker 1: H who do we say is the other guy under contract? Oh,
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Speaker 1: Nolan Smith. That's it. That's it. That's all I got.
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Speaker 3: Uh real quick, I don't believe Bradley Chubb is I
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Speaker 3: don't think for the cap purposes that they could release him.
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Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna double check this. I don't know that
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Speaker 3: because I thought that he had not been because I
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Speaker 3: look at the you know, I get the transaction report
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Speaker 3: every day from the NFL, and I don't have not
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Speaker 3: seen him.
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Speaker 1: On it yet. Oh, I thought he was released a
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Speaker 1: while back.
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Speaker 3: No, they they told him he was going to be released.
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Speaker 3: I in fact, he's still on the team website. Said,
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Speaker 3: look right now, he's on the team website.
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Speaker 1: Well that would be smart.
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Speaker 2: What's that That would be a smart move of the
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Speaker 2: Dolphins to have not officially released him, right.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, but no, it's not that anyone would trade
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Speaker 3: for him. It's just for cat purposes. You have to
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Speaker 3: hold his depending on structure. I know there are a
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Speaker 3: lot like I'll give you an example. This is really
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Speaker 3: old and this this is the first time I've ever
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Speaker 3: seen it. Immy awesome walk could not be cut for
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Speaker 3: purposes until the start of the new league year. And
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Speaker 3: I'm guessing that's why Chubb I thought, because I was like,
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Speaker 3: you know, what if he's been released, because I don't
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Speaker 3: remember it. I just know they told him and had
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Speaker 3: been reported he's going to be released, Okay, but he
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Speaker 3: hadn't been and he's still as of now Tuesday evening,
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Speaker 3: still on their team website.
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Speaker 2: So you're saying this would not be like a Rashaun
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Speaker 2: Gary situation, where now that the market's welled up a
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Speaker 2: little bit, somebody wouldn't want to fork over a day
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Speaker 2: three for him that that is.
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Speaker 3: Had he I don't let me see if I could
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Speaker 3: find his contract, see if I have.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's because they probably owe him a certain amount
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Speaker 2: of money on a day is out, is it?
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Speaker 3: Uh? Well no, no, what it is you just have for
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Speaker 3: cap purposes you have to whether it's I don't know
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Speaker 3: how they're doing it. I just know it might be
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Speaker 3: post June one. Yeah. I don't think, in fact, I
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Speaker 3: don't think they've released him yet. Yeah. I don't think
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Speaker 3: that he's an enormous amount of money for twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 3: Uh just onder nineteen and that's just on a twenty
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Speaker 3: million Yeah, So yeah, he obviously he's going to be
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Speaker 3: cut anyway, it's not being no one's taking that contract.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Good point.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So he'll be cut and then we'll see what
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Speaker 2: happens after that. But clearly the Eagles need to do something.
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Speaker 2: They want to pivot here, and I don't know no
10:12
Speaker 2: matter what they unless they well I don't want to
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Speaker 2: make any statements because you just don't know what they're
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Speaker 2: gonna do. But I would say it'll be hard to
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Speaker 2: find as someone is as good as what Jalen Phillis
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Speaker 2: was bringing them, knowing the scheme, the size that he brought,
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Speaker 2: the two way nature. I mean, those guys are really
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Speaker 2: good and they're now employed for somebody else for a reason.
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Speaker 2: So how he's got his work cut out from in
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Speaker 2: that regard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look understand some there's just the Eagles. How he
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Speaker 3: did absolutely the right thing. You don't This is like
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Speaker 3: Byron Jones. They went to the limit, like they actually
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Speaker 3: if this is six years ago, I cannot believe, right,
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Speaker 3: I think they actually their offer was either over market
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Speaker 3: again this is I believe they actually offered more than
10:54
Speaker 3: Oakland and Miami. But what happened was they he just
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Speaker 3: wanted he didn't wan to be out east. You know,
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Speaker 3: he's from Connectu and went to Yukon. Yeah, but getting
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Speaker 3: back so he have to be did You can't because
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Speaker 3: how he said at the combine, if we go and
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Speaker 3: spend more money here, we have to do something here.
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Speaker 3: Meet to release a player. Don't resign a player. You
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Speaker 3: just can't do it. And now they've got that money
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Speaker 3: freed up that went to Phillips, So they're a line
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Speaker 3: here to make a nice move and free agency here,
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Speaker 3: whether it's trade, sign someone is out there, that's as
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Speaker 3: simple as that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you just have to wonder about the signing.
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Speaker 2: If Howie's really keen on holding on to that comp
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Speaker 2: pick thinking that he'll get a third rounder, then you
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Speaker 2: don't want to cancel it out.
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Speaker 1: So you got to be a little bit careful.
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Speaker 2: But like I, like I was saying before, if you're
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Speaker 2: gonna trade for a guy, right, you're if you're gonna
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Speaker 2: trade for grend or something, you're probably gonna give up
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Speaker 2: a similar type of pick. So you're gonna wind up
11:48
Speaker 2: giving up a pick anyway. So if there's a guy
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Speaker 2: out there that's a free agent and worth it and
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Speaker 2: wants to come play for you, then you might as
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Speaker 2: well pay the money and cancel it out, because one
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Speaker 2: way or another, you're gonna have to give up pick
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Speaker 2: either the cop or you're making a trade.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look how he's done that before. Other
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Speaker 3: gms have done that where they just said, you know what,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to lose his pick, Let's wait till
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Speaker 3: let's wait till May when it doesn't count for the
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Speaker 3: formula for unrestricted free agents. Two things that don't count. Well,
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Speaker 3: the big one is obviously you could sign any released player,
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Speaker 3: they don't count. To the former. You can pay one
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Speaker 3: hundred million, doesn't matter, doesn't count towards it. So once
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Speaker 3: Chubb gets cut, we'll see. Well, obviously they can't do
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Speaker 3: it till four pm Easter on Wednesday for CAP purposes.
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Speaker 3: So it's you gotta have to work it out with
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Speaker 3: his agent. Hey, we went in or you know, you
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Speaker 3: call Robert Zinski, the CAP guy. I'm sure they've been
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Speaker 3: in touch. How he need leave no stone on turn
12:41
Speaker 3: gms tell us when they talk to him. If the
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Speaker 3: guy becomes available, they're calling. So, especially in this case,
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Speaker 3: they had to have a contingtionally contingency plan. They didn't go.
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Speaker 3: They didn't Mafey got a he got a really good deal.
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Speaker 3: I think it was was it Oway or Mafey got
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Speaker 3: four for a hundred?
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Speaker 1: I forget that was Oway. Well, they both got really
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Speaker 1: good deals. But I think Owas got the four for
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Speaker 1: one hundred that was.
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Speaker 3: What's that?
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Speaker 1: That was the Commander's one.
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 2: Boy, mafe no no got I think we got the
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Speaker 2: one hundred million from the Commanders.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but how about the bet, Well, Mafy went
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Speaker 3: to the Bengals of all teams.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 3: See see here's another thing. Not the Eagles are in
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Speaker 3: this place. They're not, They'll never be. But the Bengals
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Speaker 3: are low cash spend team. They have to over a
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Speaker 3: period of years, they have to least spend they have
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Speaker 3: to get it might be eighty percent real in cash,
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Speaker 3: not cap. I don't have it in front of me.
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Speaker 3: I know the old rule. I don't have the new rule,
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Speaker 3: the adjusted rule in front of me. But they're a
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Speaker 3: low cash bend team. They got to start spending. So
13:43
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. And yeah, and then you saw
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Speaker 3: what the Commandos did. They had a lot, They had
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Speaker 3: a lot of players, you know, they they're a lot
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Speaker 3: of players expiring contracts, Giants are very aggressive, staying in
13:53
Speaker 3: the division before you get out of here. M They
13:55
Speaker 3: were very aggressive day one, which was expected. Yep. I
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Speaker 3: cannot wait to see what the odds makers do on
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Speaker 3: their their over under total. I'm gonna, without looking, I
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Speaker 3: would guess nine and a half.
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Speaker 1: To the Giants nine and a half.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know. Wow, it's horrible. You know,
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Speaker 3: sometimes they go crazy with these things. They I was wrong.
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Speaker 3: They had Jim Jim Harble eight and a half over under.
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Speaker 3: I thought it would be go under and what over first?
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Speaker 3: Ye same with Rabel. I thought, no way with that
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Speaker 3: garbage roster.
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Speaker 4: I was thinking, but okay, what's that? I was thinking
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Speaker 4: seven and a half. No, I gotta go oh that.
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Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna get Scataboo back. Yeah, the guy,
14:37
Speaker 4: the luminer back.
14:39
Speaker 3: We need to play garter right tackle. Yep. Uh they
14:44
Speaker 3: one neighbors would come off the a cil and obviously yes,
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Speaker 3: they have to see how he looks. Yep, I'm seeing.
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Speaker 4: What Oh oh Isaiah likely, I love that moved move.
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Speaker 3: And remember now Matt Naggy is more eleven personnel. He's
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Speaker 3: a big spread guy. But now they got an athletic
15:02
Speaker 3: tight ending team with yeah, Nags, Nags, Andy.
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Speaker 1: Reid twelve because Andy Andy plaid a lot of twelve personnel, not.
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Speaker 3: Ton of eleven when he was with the Bears. When
15:14
Speaker 3: Noggi was the head coach of the Bears.
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Speaker 1: He did, didn't they. I just.
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Speaker 3: Talked to John about that when he was with him.
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Speaker 3: They saw that was with Darnell Mooney and I don't
15:23
Speaker 3: have the list of players they had. But but the
15:26
Speaker 3: good thing is they can do either because mister blocking
15:29
Speaker 3: tight end, mister why tight end, Chris Manherts is back. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Plus they got the.
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Speaker 3: You know, hopefully does better. And they need more help
15:38
Speaker 3: at receiver. They're not clearly not done. It's Neighbors, it's Slayton.
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Speaker 3: They need more help there. Oh yeah, they need a
15:45
Speaker 3: little bit of help in the middle of their offensive
15:46
Speaker 3: line is always a problem though. That's that's where the
15:49
Speaker 3: Eagles are always going to be better. Yes, we know
15:50
Speaker 3: they were injured last season. Hopefully that they're getting off
15:53
Speaker 3: their feet, but you know, overall, it's still the Eagles
15:58
Speaker 3: now are still the class as we speak now. Obviously
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Speaker 3: things are going to change significantly to the draft of
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Speaker 3: free agency going forward. Yep, But I know fans are
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16:09
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16:14
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16:17
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16:23
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16:33
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16:37
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Speaker 1: All right. While in the middle of this podcast, we
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Speaker 1: have breaking news, so I wanted to make sure we
18:48
Speaker 1: get this in since this is our emergency pod.
18:50
Speaker 2: The Eagles have lost another free agent, and it is
18:52
Speaker 2: every It's not every Eagles worst nightmare, but they do
18:56
Speaker 2: lose to Kobe d not to the Cowboys, but to
18:58
Speaker 2: the Raiders on a three year deal. Co Mike McCartney,
19:00
Speaker 2: that's his agent. So, uh, Nikobe Dean going to the Raiders. Now,
19:05
Speaker 2: the Raiders have a couple of guys who used to
19:07
Speaker 2: be with the Eagles in their front office, so you
19:09
Speaker 2: always connect dots there.
19:11
Speaker 1: They know Nikobe, they know what kind of tone center
19:13
Speaker 1: he is.
19:13
Speaker 2: No culture changer he is, but that is yet another
19:16
Speaker 2: big loss for the Eagles.
19:18
Speaker 3: Well we expected it. Uh. Now we get the confirmation
19:21
Speaker 3: John Campbell will start and they they spent early and
19:24
Speaker 3: they that Linnenbaum destroying the market, Jalen Naire, Jalen Naylor
19:28
Speaker 3: who they're paying him starting money at wide receiver Quinny
19:32
Speaker 3: pay was an okay edge. John Johnson, who was supposed
19:36
Speaker 3: to be cut, was traded for even the Bills announced
19:39
Speaker 3: that they were releasing. That's I've never heard that before.
19:43
Speaker 1: No, very weird.
19:45
Speaker 3: That was that was really interesting. Chefter and I aren't
19:48
Speaker 3: working together anymore, but we had the famous, the infamous
19:50
Speaker 3: Frank core story. He's telling people to retweet it so
19:56
Speaker 3: I could retweet it. We always get a laugh out
19:57
Speaker 3: of that. But I know how it hurts. I get
20:00
Speaker 3: the Dean stuff. I get it. But it's John Campbell time. See,
20:04
Speaker 3: we get the answer. Now it's Johd Campbell. What we
20:07
Speaker 3: were expecting. Yep, you got Mike McCartney, by the way,
20:10
Speaker 3: for people don't know that. Most people actually don't know
20:11
Speaker 3: this the son of the late great Bill McCartney from
20:15
Speaker 3: a head coach of Colorado. But there's the interesting part.
20:18
Speaker 3: He was the Eagles former pro personnel director in the
20:22
Speaker 3: late nineties under Tom Modrak. He was the guy would
20:26
Speaker 3: knock on the door in training camp and say, hey,
20:29
Speaker 3: we need your play, but coach wants to see you.
20:30
Speaker 3: How about that?
20:31
Speaker 1: How about that?
20:32
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?
20:33
Speaker 1: That is? That is all right?
20:36
Speaker 2: By the way, NFL media reporting three years thirty six
20:39
Speaker 2: million for Nikobe twenty million guaranteed. That's actually better than
20:43
Speaker 2: I thought he would do because of his injury history.
20:45
Speaker 2: So that is that's good.
20:46
Speaker 3: Twenty million years. And again, their cash, their team, that's
20:49
Speaker 3: got to start spending cash, yep, their cash. Ben Well,
20:53
Speaker 3: it's funny. They're paying a lot of former coaches, a
20:56
Speaker 3: lot of funny, but that doesn't count. Yeah, there's no
20:59
Speaker 3: coaching salary cap. But they're spending. Anthony Patches there right,
21:02
Speaker 3: used to work for the Eagles, any.
21:03
Speaker 1: Patch, and Brandon Hunt is there and John.
21:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, it's Eagles West eagless man. But yeah,
21:11
Speaker 3: it's so all right. So what do we know now
21:14
Speaker 3: Phillips is gone. They're still looking for an edge. They're
21:16
Speaker 3: in the edge market with a trader signed yep. Uh.
21:19
Speaker 3: So they've lost today, they lost, well, they they lost Phillips. Yep.
21:23
Speaker 1: Johan Dottson signed with the is gonna sign with the Falcons?
21:26
Speaker 3: Ten did I was that ten millions?
21:28
Speaker 1: I don't know what the.
21:29
Speaker 2: Falcons were doing, Like, I don't know you're competing against.
21:32
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought. I thought h Terry Fonteau was
21:36
Speaker 3: crazy with some of the deals that he did. Obviously
21:38
Speaker 3: to the Penis trade, they're gonna they're gonna bring two
21:41
Speaker 3: wins for competition, but my ten million for an average
21:45
Speaker 3: This is free asy, folks, this is what we hilarious.
21:49
Speaker 2: Hey, get this in the spirit of awesome free agency
21:52
Speaker 2: breaking news or contract, the Phillies and Lozardo come to
21:56
Speaker 2: an agreement here in the middle of the s But.
21:59
Speaker 3: He is, well, he had one of the all time
22:02
Speaker 3: incredible games. He was it the first inning, No from
22:07
Speaker 3: we a perfect game for innings two or nine last.
22:10
Speaker 1: Year, right two through nine. Yep is that it was unbelievable.
22:14
Speaker 1: It was great.
22:14
Speaker 3: He is you know, he led the majors.
22:16
Speaker 2: He was tied for the major league lead with twenty
22:18
Speaker 2: two quality starts and third in strikeouts. If you took
22:21
Speaker 2: those two bad tipping pitches outings away right up there
22:25
Speaker 2: at Sion Award with anybody else.
22:27
Speaker 3: So yeah, I as Philadelphia team.
22:30
Speaker 1: Is keeping a keeping one of their cords.
22:33
Speaker 3: That's a good story. Yeah, that's a good story. But anyway,
22:35
Speaker 3: so folks, it's day one. Relaxed, just make a deep breath.
22:38
Speaker 3: What does Aaron Rodgers say, are e l ax?
22:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, We've still got a lot of time left,
22:45
Speaker 2: and then we'll see what happens with of course Dallas
22:47
Speaker 2: Goddard and read Blanket Ship, assuming that nothing happens for
22:50
Speaker 2: them by the time it takes me to get this
22:51
Speaker 2: podcast up. That'll do it, adition, this Emergency Eagles ITV
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Speaker 2: pod and uh we'll catch you all on the exuent