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- 0:00You
- 0:00know,
- 0:00you
- 0:00might
- 0:00see
- 0:01a
- 0:01male
- 0:01that
- 0:01has
- 0:01multiple
- 0:02females,
- 0:02you
- 0:02might
- 0:02see
- 0:02a
- 0:03female
- 0:03who
- 0:03has
- 0:03multiple
- 0:03males,
- 0:04or
- 0:04you
- 0:04might
- 0:04see
- 0:05multiple
- 0:05pairs
- 0:06actually
- 0:06mating
- 0:06with
- 0:07each
- 0:07other.
- 0:08And
- 0:08like
- 0:08everything
- 0:09in
- 0:09between.
- 0:33I
- 0:33was
- 0:33a
- 0:34really
- 0:34lucky
- 0:34kid.
- 0:35I
- 0:35grew
- 0:35up
- 0:35on
- 0:35the
- 0:35shoreline
- 0:36of
- 0:36Lake
- 0:36Huron
- 0:36in
- 0:37Ontario,
- 0:37Canada,
- 0:38where
- 0:38the
- 0:38lake
- 0:38was
- 0:39my
- 0:39backyard
- 0:39and
- 0:40the
- 0:40cedar
- 0:40forest
- 0:40was
- 0:41my
- 0:41playground.
- 0:42And
- 0:42I
- 0:42spent
- 0:42a
- 0:43lot
- 0:43of
- 0:43my
- 0:43time
- 0:43watching
- 0:44birds.
- 0:45Every
- 0:45year,
- 0:45my
- 0:46family
- 0:46put
- 0:46up
- 0:46a
- 0:46nest
- 0:47box
- 0:47for
- 0:47purple
- 0:47martins
- 0:48that
- 0:48was
- 0:48inevitably
- 0:49occupied
- 0:49by
- 0:50tree
- 0:50swallows.
- 0:51But
- 0:51waiting
- 0:51for
- 0:52the
- 0:52first
- 0:52swallows
- 0:52of
- 0:52spring
- 0:53and
- 0:53listening
- 0:53to
- 0:53their
- 0:54bubbly
- 0:54songs
- 0:54was
- 0:54a
- 0:55highlight
- 0:55of
- 0:55my
- 0:55childhood.
- 0:56I'd
- 0:57stare
- 0:57up
- 0:57at
- 0:57that
- 0:57box
- 0:58and
- 0:58wonder
- 0:58which
- 0:58cavity
- 0:59they'd
- 0:59pick
- 0:59and
- 0:59whether
- 1:00the
- 1:00house
- 1:00friends
- 1:00would
- 1:01show
- 1:01up
- 1:01and
- 1:01ruin
- 1:01everything.
- 1:02The
- 1:02first
- 1:03time
- 1:03I
- 1:03actually
- 1:03watched
- 1:04a
- 1:04pair
- 1:04of
- 1:04birds
- 1:04raise
- 1:05a
- 1:05family,
- 1:05though.
- 1:05It
- 1:05wasn't
- 1:06swallows
- 1:06at
- 1:06all,
- 1:07but
- 1:07a.
- 1:07Song
- 1:07sparrow
- 1:08nest
- 1:08tucked
- 1:08under
- 1:08dead
- 1:09grass
- 1:09near
- 1:09our
- 1:09front
- 1:09door.
- 1:10I
- 1:11watched
- 1:11the
- 1:11female
- 1:11incubate
- 1:12the
- 1:12eggs,
- 1:12the
- 1:12male
- 1:13sneak
- 1:13in
- 1:13to
- 1:13give
- 1:14her
- 1:14food.
- 1:14Both
- 1:15parents
- 1:15shuttling
- 1:16meals
- 1:16to
- 1:16chicks
- 1:16that
- 1:17went
- 1:17from
- 1:17tiny,
- 1:17pink,
- 1:18helpless
- 1:18blobs
- 1:19to
- 1:19loud,
- 1:19demanding
- 1:20fledglings.
- 1:21And
- 1:21I
- 1:21got
- 1:22invested.
- 1:23I
- 1:23romanticized
- 1:24the
- 1:24pair,
- 1:24and
- 1:24in
- 1:24my
- 1:25head,
- 1:25they
- 1:25were
- 1:25a
- 1:25married
- 1:25couple
- 1:26who'd
- 1:26chosen
- 1:26each
- 1:26other
- 1:27for
- 1:27life.
- 1:28Years
- 1:29later,
- 1:29science
- 1:29complicated
- 1:30that
- 1:30story.
- 1:31Which
- 1:31brings
- 1:31us
- 1:32to
- 1:32today's
- 1:32question.
- 1:33Okay,
- 1:33but
- 1:34is
- 1:34bird
- 1:34monogamy
- 1:35just
- 1:35PR?
- 1:36We'll
- 1:36ask
- 1:36Dr.
- 1:36Cary
- 1:37Branch,
- 1:37an
- 1:37ornithologist
- 1:38and
- 1:38assistant
- 1:38professor
- 1:39at
- 1:39Western
- 1:39University
- 1:40who
- 1:40studies
- 1:41bird
- 1:41behavior
- 1:41and
- 1:42extra
- 1:42pair
- 1:42mating.
- 1:43We've
- 1:43all
- 1:44heard
- 1:44the
- 1:44line,
- 1:45they
- 1:45mate
- 1:45for
- 1:45life.
- 1:46It
- 1:46shows
- 1:47up
- 1:47in
- 1:47wedding
- 1:47toasts,
- 1:48on
- 1:48fridge
- 1:48magnets
- 1:49and
- 1:49a
- 1:49suspicious
- 1:50number
- 1:50of
- 1:50greeting
- 1:50cards.
- 1:51Swan
- 1:52necks
- 1:52forming
- 1:52a
- 1:52heart,
- 1:53penguins
- 1:53in
- 1:54formal
- 1:54wear,
- 1:55lovebirds
- 1:55doing
- 1:55PR
- 1:56for
- 1:56the
- 1:56idea
- 1:56of
- 1:57soulmates.
- 1:57Many
- 1:58birds
- 1:58do
- 1:58form
- 1:59pair
- 1:59bonds.
- 1:59They
- 2:00share
- 2:00a
- 2:00territory,
- 2:00build
- 2:01a
- 2:01nest,
- 2:01raise
- 2:01chicks
- 2:02together.
- 2:03But
- 2:03across
- 2:03the
- 2:04avian
- 2:04world,
- 2:04extra
- 2:05pair
- 2:05copulation,
- 2:06the
- 2:06scientific
- 2:06term
- 2:07for
- 2:07stepping
- 2:07out
- 2:07on
- 2:07your
- 2:07mate,
- 2:08is
- 2:08very
- 2:09common.
- 2:09In
- 2:10some
- 2:10species,
- 2:10a
- 2:11third
- 2:11or
- 2:11more
- 2:11of
- 2:11the
- 2:11chicks
- 2:12in
- 2:12a
- 2:12nest
- 2:12may
- 2:12have
- 2:12a
- 2:13different
- 2:13father
- 2:13than
- 2:13the
- 2:13one
- 2:14tirelessly
- 2:14bringing
- 2:15in
- 2:15food.
- 2:16It's
- 2:16less
- 2:16storybook
- 2:17romance,
- 2:18more
- 2:18Maury
- 2:18Povich.
- 2:19You
- 2:19are
- 2:19not
- 2:20the
- 2:20father
- 2:21with
- 2:21feathers.
- 2:22So
- 2:22why
- 2:22bother
- 2:23with
- 2:23a
- 2:23pair
- 2:23bond
- 2:23at
- 2:24all
- 2:24if
- 2:24exclusivity
- 2:25isn't
- 2:25guaranteed?
- 2:26Because
- 2:26what
- 2:26looks
- 2:27like
- 2:27cheating
- 2:27through
- 2:28a
- 2:28human
- 2:28lens
- 2:28often
- 2:29looks
- 2:29like
- 2:29strategy
- 2:30through
- 2:30an
- 2:30evolutionary
- 2:31one.
- 2:31Birds
- 2:32are
- 2:32responding
- 2:32to
- 2:32conditions.
- 2:33Food,
- 2:34neighbors,
- 2:35predators,
- 2:36timing,
- 2:37even
- 2:37genetic
- 2:37compatibility.
- 2:39They're
- 2:39not
- 2:39acting
- 2:39out
- 2:39of
- 2:40morality
- 2:40play.
- 2:41Even
- 2:41the
- 2:42word
- 2:42monogamous
- 2:42hides
- 2:43nuance.
- 2:43There's
- 2:44social
- 2:44monogamy,
- 2:45the
- 2:45pair
- 2:45you
- 2:45can
- 2:45see,
- 2:46and
- 2:46genetic
- 2:47monogamy,
- 2:47the
- 2:47DNA
- 2:48version.
- 2:49Those
- 2:49two
- 2:49don't
- 2:49always
- 2:49line
- 2:50up.
- 2:50And
- 2:50that
- 2:50gap
- 2:50is
- 2:51where
- 2:51the
- 2:51drama
- 2:51and
- 2:52the
- 2:52science
- 2:52really
- 2:53live.
- 2:53In
- 2:54this
- 2:54episode,
- 2:54we're
- 2:54going
- 2:55to
- 2:55pull
- 2:55on
- 2:55that
- 2:55thread
- 2:56not
- 2:56to
- 2:56kill
- 2:56the
- 2:57romance,
- 2:57but
- 2:57to
- 2:57move
- 2:57it
- 2:58closer
- 2:58to
- 2:58reality.
- 2:59How
- 2:59common
- 2:59is
- 3:00this
- 3:00monogamish
- 3:01middle
- 3:01ground?
- 3:02When
- 3:02does
- 3:02a
- 3:02pair
- 3:02bond
- 3:03hold
- 3:03tight
- 3:03and
- 3:03when
- 3:04does
- 3:04it
- 3:04flex?
- 3:04And
- 3:05what
- 3:05are
- 3:05the
- 3:05birds
- 3:06actually
- 3:06optimizing
- 3:07when
- 3:07two
- 3:07individuals
- 3:08decide
- 3:08to
- 3:08build
- 3:08one
- 3:09nest?
- 3:10If
- 3:10you're
- 3:10worried
- 3:10this
- 3:11is
- 3:11a
- 3:11takedown,
- 3:12you
- 3:12can
- 3:13breathe.
- 3:13Birds
- 3:14don't
- 3:14need
- 3:14our
- 3:14fairy
- 3:14tales
- 3:15to
- 3:15be
- 3:15impressive.
- 3:16Sometimes
- 3:16pairs
- 3:17really
- 3:17do
- 3:17come
- 3:17back
- 3:17season
- 3:18after
- 3:18season.
- 3:19Same
- 3:19partner,
- 3:19same
- 3:20choreography.
- 3:21After
- 3:21the
- 3:21break,
- 3:22Dr.
- 3:22Carrie
- 3:22Branch
- 3:23joins
- 3:23us
- 3:23to
- 3:23separate
- 3:23the
- 3:24love
- 3:24story
- 3:24from
- 3:24the
- 3:25branding
- 3:25and
- 3:25to
- 3:26show
- 3:26us
- 3:26what
- 3:26they
- 3:27mate
- 3:27for
- 3:27life
- 3:28actually
- 3:28means
- 3:28when
- 3:29you
- 3:29bring
- 3:29in
- 3:29data,
- 3:30DNA
- 3:30and
- 3:31a
- 3:31little
- 3:31less
- 3:31pr.
- 3:32Stay
- 3:33tuned.
- 3:39Well,
- 3:39welcome
- 3:39back,
- 3:39everyone.
- 3:40I'm
- 3:40really
- 3:40excited
- 3:41today
- 3:41to
- 3:41be
- 3:42joined
- 3:42by
- 3:42Dr.
- 3:43Carrie
- 3:43Branch,
- 3:43who's
- 3:44with
- 3:44us
- 3:44from
- 3:45Western
- 3:45University
- 3:46in
- 3:46Southern
- 3:47Ontario,
- 3:47Canada.
- 3:48To
- 3:48dive
- 3:49more
- 3:49into
- 3:49this
- 3:49question
- 3:50about
- 3:51really
- 3:51what
- 3:51is
- 3:51bird
- 3:52monogamy?
- 3:52Obviously,
- 3:53it's
- 3:54worked
- 3:54as
- 3:54really
- 3:54good
- 3:54PR
- 3:55for
- 3:55a
- 3:55long
- 3:55time,
- 3:56but
- 3:56there's
- 3:56more
- 3:56to
- 3:57it
- 3:57and
- 3:57Carrie
- 3:57studies
- 3:58it.
- 3:58So
- 3:58we're
- 3:59excited
- 3:59to
- 3:59have
- 3:59you
- 3:59here
- 3:59today.
- 4:00Awesome.
- 4:00Excited
- 4:01to
- 4:01be
- 4:01here.
- 4:01Yeah,
- 4:02great,
- 4:03thanks.
- 4:03It
- 4:03would
- 4:04probably
- 4:04make
- 4:04sense
- 4:04to
- 4:04start
- 4:05out
- 4:05with
- 4:05just
- 4:06really
- 4:06talking
- 4:07about,
- 4:07like,
- 4:07what
- 4:07is
- 4:08when
- 4:08we
- 4:08use
- 4:08the
- 4:08term
- 4:09monogamy
- 4:10in
- 4:10birds
- 4:10and
- 4:10studying
- 4:11birds,
- 4:11what
- 4:11do
- 4:11we
- 4:11mean?
- 4:12Yeah,
- 4:12for
- 4:12sure.
- 4:13So
- 4:13monogamy
- 4:14can
- 4:14mean
- 4:14a
- 4:14couple
- 4:14of
- 4:15things,
- 4:15right?
- 4:15So
- 4:15to
- 4:16us,
- 4:16it
- 4:16means
- 4:17one
- 4:17partner
- 4:17forever.
- 4:19And
- 4:20sometimes
- 4:21that's
- 4:21true
- 4:21in
- 4:21birds,
- 4:22but
- 4:22oftentimes
- 4:22we
- 4:23just,
- 4:23we
- 4:23differentiate
- 4:24between
- 4:25what
- 4:25we
- 4:25call
- 4:26like
- 4:27genetic
- 4:28monogamy
- 4:28versus
- 4:29social
- 4:29monogamy.
- 4:30Right.
- 4:30So
- 4:30a
- 4:30lot
- 4:30of
- 4:30birds
- 4:31or
- 4:31most
- 4:31bird
- 4:32species,
- 4:32as
- 4:32you
- 4:33know,
- 4:33are
- 4:34socially
- 4:34monogamous.
- 4:35So
- 4:35that
- 4:35means
- 4:35that
- 4:35they
- 4:35pair
- 4:36up
- 4:36with
- 4:36another
- 4:36individual
- 4:38to
- 4:38breed.
- 4:39And
- 4:39that
- 4:39might
- 4:39be,
- 4:39you
- 4:40know,
- 4:40for
- 4:40a
- 4:40few
- 4:40months.
- 4:40It
- 4:41might
- 4:41breed
- 4:41for
- 4:41a
- 4:41full
- 4:42year
- 4:43and
- 4:43they'll
- 4:43breed
- 4:43together.
- 4:45But
- 4:45they're
- 4:45not
- 4:45necessarily
- 4:46genetically
- 4:46monogamous,
- 4:47which
- 4:47means
- 4:47that
- 4:48the
- 4:48offspring
- 4:49they
- 4:49produce,
- 4:49so
- 4:49the
- 4:49eggs
- 4:50they
- 4:50produce
- 4:50aren't
- 4:51necessarily
- 4:51from
- 4:52that
- 4:52male
- 4:53or
- 4:53from
- 4:53that
- 4:54same
- 4:54partner
- 4:54that
- 4:55they're
- 4:55raising.
- 4:56Right.
- 4:56So
- 4:56they'll
- 4:56seek
- 4:57what
- 4:57we
- 4:57call
- 4:57extra
- 4:58pair
- 4:58copulations
- 4:59outside
- 5:00of
- 5:00their
- 5:00social
- 5:01pair.
- 5:01Right.
- 5:02So
- 5:02they
- 5:02form
- 5:02these
- 5:03social
- 5:03pair
- 5:03bonds
- 5:04that
- 5:04last
- 5:04different
- 5:04lengths
- 5:05of
- 5:05time.
- 5:05Right.
- 5:05So
- 5:06there
- 5:06are
- 5:06some
- 5:06that
- 5:06form
- 5:07a
- 5:07social
- 5:07pair
- 5:07bond
- 5:07just
- 5:08for
- 5:08one
- 5:08season.
- 5:09There
- 5:09are
- 5:09others
- 5:09that
- 5:10can
- 5:10form
- 5:10multi
- 5:11year
- 5:11social
- 5:11pair
- 5:12bonds.
- 5:12But
- 5:12then
- 5:12in
- 5:13all
- 5:13of
- 5:13those
- 5:13cases,
- 5:15yeah,
- 5:15that
- 5:15genetic
- 5:15piece
- 5:16is
- 5:16non
- 5:17monogamous.
- 5:17Or
- 5:18females
- 5:18are
- 5:18seeking
- 5:19out
- 5:19these
- 5:19extra
- 5:19pair
- 5:20copulations
- 5:21from
- 5:21other
- 5:22males,
- 5:22maybe
- 5:22males
- 5:23that
- 5:23are
- 5:23nearby.
- 5:24What's
- 5:24the
- 5:24benefit
- 5:25to
- 5:25that?
- 5:26Why
- 5:26form
- 5:26a
- 5:27strong
- 5:27social
- 5:27pair
- 5:28and
- 5:29then
- 5:29still
- 5:29step
- 5:30out,
- 5:30as
- 5:30it
- 5:30were?
- 5:30I
- 5:31mean,
- 5:31that's
- 5:31anthropomorphizing,
- 5:32which
- 5:32we
- 5:32try
- 5:32not
- 5:33to
- 5:33do.
- 5:33But
- 5:34stepping
- 5:34outside
- 5:34of
- 5:35this
- 5:35social
- 5:35pair
- 5:35bond,
- 5:37what
- 5:37have
- 5:37we
- 5:38figured
- 5:38out
- 5:38about
- 5:38why
- 5:38that's
- 5:39so
- 5:39common?
- 5:40Yeah,
- 5:40so
- 5:40there's
- 5:41the
- 5:41biggest
- 5:41hypothesis
- 5:42really,
- 5:42or
- 5:43the
- 5:43prevailing
- 5:43hypothesis
- 5:44is
- 5:44that
- 5:45females
- 5:46are
- 5:46seeking
- 5:46extra
- 5:47pair
- 5:47males
- 5:48to
- 5:48enhance
- 5:49genetic
- 5:49compatibility
- 5:51or
- 5:51genetic
- 5:52quality.
- 5:53Right.
- 5:53So
- 5:53maybe
- 5:54their
- 5:54social
- 5:55pair
- 5:55male
- 5:56is
- 5:56a
- 5:56really
- 5:57good
- 5:57parent,
- 5:57he's
- 5:57a
- 5:57really
- 5:57good
- 5:58father,
- 5:59but
- 5:59maybe
- 6:00he's
- 6:00not
- 6:00like
- 6:00the
- 6:01sexiest
- 6:02male
- 6:02on
- 6:03the
- 6:03scene.
- 6:04And
- 6:05so
- 6:05then
- 6:05she
- 6:05might
- 6:06want
- 6:06to
- 6:06seek
- 6:07extra
- 6:07pair
- 6:07copulations
- 6:08with
- 6:09a
- 6:09higher
- 6:09quality
- 6:10male
- 6:10or
- 6:10a
- 6:10male
- 6:11that's
- 6:11sexier,
- 6:12so
- 6:12to
- 6:12speak.
- 6:13I
- 6:13put
- 6:13that
- 6:13in
- 6:13air
- 6:13quotes
- 6:14for
- 6:14those
- 6:14that
- 6:14aren't
- 6:14seeing
- 6:15the
- 6:15video.
- 6:17In
- 6:17order
- 6:17to
- 6:18like
- 6:18sort
- 6:18of
- 6:18boost
- 6:18the
- 6:18fitness
- 6:19or
- 6:19the,
- 6:19the
- 6:20likelihood
- 6:20of
- 6:20survival
- 6:21of
- 6:21their,
- 6:21of
- 6:21her
- 6:22offspring
- 6:23and.
- 6:23Or
- 6:24like
- 6:24the
- 6:24sexiness
- 6:25of
- 6:25her
- 6:25offspring.
- 6:25Right.
- 6:25Like
- 6:26if
- 6:26she
- 6:26mates
- 6:26with
- 6:26a
- 6:26sexy
- 6:27male,
- 6:27then
- 6:27that
- 6:28means
- 6:28more
- 6:28likely
- 6:28her
- 6:29sons
- 6:29will
- 6:29be
- 6:29sexy
- 6:30and
- 6:31then
- 6:31they'll
- 6:31get
- 6:31matings
- 6:32from
- 6:32other
- 6:32females.
- 6:33And
- 6:33it
- 6:33goes
- 6:33on
- 6:34the
- 6:34sexy
- 6:34sons
- 6:35hypothesis.
- 6:35Yeah,
- 6:36exactly.
- 6:37So,
- 6:37but
- 6:37what
- 6:37is.
- 6:38I
- 6:38guess
- 6:38that
- 6:38adds
- 6:39another
- 6:39question.
- 6:39Like
- 6:39what
- 6:40is
- 6:40sexy
- 6:40to
- 6:40a
- 6:41bird?
- 6:41Yeah,
- 6:41like
- 6:42what
- 6:42is
- 6:42it
- 6:43that
- 6:43they're
- 6:43seeking
- 6:43out?
- 6:43Is
- 6:44it
- 6:44brighter
- 6:44colors?
- 6:45Is
- 6:45it
- 6:45something
- 6:46more
- 6:46relevant
- 6:47to
- 6:47survival?
- 6:47Or
- 6:48I
- 6:48think
- 6:48it
- 6:48can
- 6:48be
- 6:48all
- 6:49of
- 6:49the
- 6:49above.
- 6:49Right.
- 6:49I
- 6:49think
- 6:50it
- 6:50depends
- 6:50on
- 6:50the
- 6:50species.
- 6:51Just
- 6:51like
- 6:51so
- 6:51much
- 6:52of
- 6:52what
- 6:52we
- 6:52do
- 6:54is
- 6:54dependent
- 6:55on
- 6:55the
- 6:55ecology
- 6:56and
- 6:56biology
- 6:56of
- 6:57the
- 6:57particular
- 6:57species.
- 6:58But
- 6:58yeah,
- 6:58oftentimes
- 6:59that's,
- 7:00you
- 7:00know,
- 7:00something
- 7:00like
- 7:01bright
- 7:01coloration,
- 7:02a
- 7:02really
- 7:03well
- 7:03performed
- 7:04song,
- 7:04which,
- 7:04you
- 7:05know,
- 7:05has
- 7:05something
- 7:05to
- 7:05do
- 7:05with
- 7:06how
- 7:06they
- 7:06developed
- 7:07in
- 7:07the
- 7:08nest
- 7:08right.
- 7:08When
- 7:09they
- 7:09were
- 7:09young.
- 7:09So
- 7:09if
- 7:09they
- 7:09had
- 7:10really
- 7:10good
- 7:10access
- 7:10to
- 7:10nutrition,
- 7:11then
- 7:12maybe
- 7:12they're
- 7:12able
- 7:12to
- 7:13have
- 7:13really
- 7:13big
- 7:13brains,
- 7:14healthy
- 7:14brains,
- 7:14and
- 7:15then
- 7:15produce
- 7:16these
- 7:16brilliant
- 7:16songs
- 7:17they're
- 7:17able
- 7:17to
- 7:17imitate
- 7:18from
- 7:18their
- 7:19fathers.
- 7:19Right.
- 7:20For
- 7:20us,
- 7:20I
- 7:21mean,
- 7:21I
- 7:21could
- 7:21talk
- 7:21about
- 7:21chickadees,
- 7:22the
- 7:23chickadee
- 7:23of
- 7:23it
- 7:23all.
- 7:24Definitely
- 7:25talk
- 7:25about
- 7:25the
- 7:25chickadee
- 7:26of
- 7:26it
- 7:26all.
- 7:26Yeah.
- 7:26Because
- 7:26that's
- 7:27what's
- 7:27really
- 7:27neat,
- 7:27I
- 7:28think
- 7:28for
- 7:28us.
- 7:28Because
- 7:28oftentimes,
- 7:29you
- 7:29know,
- 7:29we
- 7:29talk
- 7:30about
- 7:30high
- 7:30quality
- 7:31or
- 7:31low
- 7:31quality
- 7:31quality
- 7:32males
- 7:32or
- 7:32variation
- 7:33in
- 7:33male
- 7:33quality
- 7:34or
- 7:34condition.
- 7:35And
- 7:35it
- 7:35seems
- 7:35to
- 7:35be
- 7:35like
- 7:35this
- 7:36catch
- 7:36all
- 7:36term,
- 7:37right?
- 7:37Like
- 7:37females
- 7:37prefer
- 7:38high
- 7:38quality
- 7:38males.
- 7:39But
- 7:39then
- 7:39we
- 7:40get
- 7:40in
- 7:40this
- 7:40feedback
- 7:40loop,
- 7:41right,
- 7:41where
- 7:41it's
- 7:41like
- 7:42they
- 7:42prefer
- 7:42high
- 7:42quality
- 7:43males,
- 7:43the
- 7:43males
- 7:43are
- 7:43high
- 7:43quality
- 7:44because
- 7:44females
- 7:44prefer
- 7:45them
- 7:45and
- 7:45they
- 7:45are
- 7:45preferred
- 7:46because
- 7:46they're
- 7:47high
- 7:47quality,
- 7:47you
- 7:47know,
- 7:47so
- 7:47we
- 7:48get
- 7:48into
- 7:48this
- 7:48like
- 7:48feedback
- 7:49loop
- 7:49where
- 7:49it's
- 7:49like,
- 7:50what
- 7:50does
- 7:50that
- 7:50even
- 7:50mean
- 7:51in
- 7:52terms
- 7:52of
- 7:52like
- 7:52health?
- 7:53Right.
- 7:53It
- 7:53might
- 7:53be
- 7:54that
- 7:54they're
- 7:54larger,
- 7:55maybe
- 7:55they're
- 7:55more
- 7:55dominant,
- 7:56they're
- 7:56able
- 7:56to
- 7:57get
- 7:57better
- 7:57access
- 7:57to
- 7:58resources,
- 7:58whether
- 7:59that's,
- 7:59you
- 8:00know,
- 8:00territories
- 8:00or
- 8:00mates
- 8:01or
- 8:01what,
- 8:01whatever
- 8:01it
- 8:02might
- 8:02be.
- 8:04But
- 8:04for
- 8:04us,
- 8:04a
- 8:05higher
- 8:05quality
- 8:05male
- 8:06or
- 8:06a
- 8:06high
- 8:06quality
- 8:07chickadee
- 8:08is
- 8:08actually
- 8:08one
- 8:09that
- 8:09is
- 8:10quite
- 8:10clever,
- 8:11so
- 8:11to
- 8:11speak,
- 8:12that
- 8:12can
- 8:12perform
- 8:13really
- 8:13well
- 8:14recovering
- 8:15their
- 8:15food
- 8:15stores.
- 8:16Right.
- 8:16So
- 8:16these
- 8:17are
- 8:17little
- 8:17tiny
- 8:18birds,
- 8:18about
- 8:1912
- 8:19grams,
- 8:20and
- 8:20they
- 8:20live
- 8:21in
- 8:21these
- 8:21harsh
- 8:23winter
- 8:23environments
- 8:24all
- 8:24year
- 8:24round.
- 8:24Right.
- 8:25They
- 8:25don't,
- 8:25they
- 8:25don't
- 8:25bail,
- 8:26they
- 8:26don't
- 8:26leave
- 8:26and
- 8:27migrate
- 8:27like
- 8:27a
- 8:27lot
- 8:27of
- 8:27other
- 8:28species
- 8:28do.
- 8:28They
- 8:28hang
- 8:29around
- 8:29all
- 8:29year.
- 8:30And
- 8:30so,
- 8:31yeah,
- 8:31they
- 8:31experience
- 8:31some
- 8:31pretty
- 8:32harsh
- 8:32winter
- 8:32conditions
- 8:35and
- 8:35they
- 8:35store
- 8:36food
- 8:36when
- 8:36it's
- 8:37abundant.
- 8:37So
- 8:37like
- 8:38in
- 8:38the
- 8:38fall
- 8:39or
- 8:39summer,
- 8:39fall,
- 8:40and
- 8:40then
- 8:40they
- 8:40recover
- 8:41all
- 8:41those
- 8:41food
- 8:41items
- 8:42throughout
- 8:42the
- 8:43winter
- 8:43and
- 8:43that's
- 8:43how
- 8:43they
- 8:43survive.
- 8:44But
- 8:44they
- 8:45put
- 8:45them
- 8:45in
- 8:45all
- 8:45these
- 8:45different
- 8:46locations.
- 8:46So
- 8:47unlike
- 8:47a
- 8:47lot
- 8:47of
- 8:47squirrel
- 8:48species,
- 8:48right,
- 8:48where
- 8:48we
- 8:49think
- 8:49of
- 8:49them
- 8:49like
- 8:49putting
- 8:50them
- 8:50all
- 8:50in
- 8:50one
- 8:50location
- 8:51and
- 8:51then
- 8:51they
- 8:51can
- 8:51come
- 8:51back
- 8:52and
- 8:52find
- 8:52all
- 8:52their
- 8:53food
- 8:53in
- 8:53their,
- 8:53in
- 8:53their
- 8:54little
- 8:54home
- 8:55chickadees
- 8:55put
- 8:56them
- 8:56all
- 8:56throughout
- 8:56their
- 8:56territory.
- 8:57And
- 8:57so
- 8:57they
- 8:58really
- 8:58rely
- 8:59on
- 8:59specialized
- 9:00spatial
- 9:00memory
- 9:01to
- 9:01actually
- 9:01recover
- 9:02those
- 9:02food
- 9:02stores.
- 9:03And
- 9:03so
- 9:04what
- 9:04we've
- 9:05shown
- 9:05recently
- 9:06is
- 9:06that
- 9:07females
- 9:07are
- 9:08picking
- 9:08up
- 9:08on
- 9:08this.
- 9:08Like
- 9:09they
- 9:09can
- 9:09assess
- 9:10and
- 9:10discriminate
- 9:11among
- 9:11males
- 9:12that
- 9:12perform
- 9:13better
- 9:13or
- 9:13worse
- 9:14on
- 9:14a
- 9:14cognitive
- 9:15task,
- 9:15which
- 9:15is
- 9:16our
- 9:17measure
- 9:17for
- 9:17their
- 9:18spatial
- 9:18cognitive
- 9:18abilities.
- 9:20And
- 9:20that's
- 9:20linked
- 9:20to
- 9:21survival
- 9:21as
- 9:21well.
- 9:22Right.
- 9:22They're
- 9:22more
- 9:22likely
- 9:22to
- 9:22survive,
- 9:23live
- 9:23longer,
- 9:25and
- 9:25the
- 9:26females
- 9:27more
- 9:27recently
- 9:27thinking
- 9:28about
- 9:28extra
- 9:28pair
- 9:29and
- 9:29like
- 9:30social
- 9:30monogamy
- 9:31because
- 9:31they're
- 9:31socially
- 9:31monogamous,
- 9:32these
- 9:32chickadees,
- 9:33just
- 9:33like
- 9:34some
- 9:3590%
- 9:35of
- 9:35birds
- 9:36are
- 9:36socially
- 9:36monogamous,
- 9:37right?
- 9:38Yeah,
- 9:38yeah,
- 9:38I
- 9:38think
- 9:38most
- 9:39birds
- 9:39are
- 9:39socially
- 9:40monogamous.
- 9:40And
- 9:40there's
- 9:41a
- 9:41couple
- 9:41other
- 9:41really
- 9:41interesting
- 9:42mating
- 9:42strategies.
- 9:43Yes,
- 9:43yeah,
- 9:43I
- 9:44know.
- 9:44There's
- 9:45a
- 9:45whole
- 9:45host.
- 9:45Right.
- 9:46It's
- 9:46so
- 9:46much
- 9:46more
- 9:47complex
- 9:47than
- 9:47I
- 9:47think
- 9:47we
- 9:48ever
- 9:48thought
- 9:48it
- 9:48was
- 9:49before
- 9:49genetics
- 9:50came
- 9:50on
- 9:50the
- 9:50scene.
- 9:50Right.
- 9:52But
- 9:52yeah,
- 9:52so
- 9:52we've
- 9:53shown
- 9:53that,
- 9:53you
- 9:53know,
- 9:54comparing
- 9:54their
- 9:54extra
- 9:55pair
- 9:55male,
- 9:56so
- 9:56the
- 9:56one
- 9:56they
- 9:56stepped
- 9:57out
- 9:57with
- 9:57versus
- 9:58their
- 9:58social
- 9:58male,
- 9:59that
- 9:59the
- 9:59extra
- 10:00pair
- 10:00male
- 10:00actually
- 10:01performs
- 10:01better
- 10:01on
- 10:02these
- 10:02cognitive
- 10:02tasks
- 10:03than
- 10:03their
- 10:03social
- 10:04male.
- 10:04So
- 10:05it
- 10:05seems
- 10:05like
- 10:05for
- 10:06a
- 10:06chickadee
- 10:07seeking
- 10:08a
- 10:08higher
- 10:08quality
- 10:08male
- 10:09or
- 10:09the
- 10:10benefit
- 10:10they're
- 10:10trying
- 10:10to
- 10:11get
- 10:11for
- 10:11their
- 10:11offspring
- 10:12is
- 10:12this,
- 10:12is
- 10:12this
- 10:13better
- 10:13spatial
- 10:13cognitive
- 10:14ability.
- 10:15So
- 10:15that's
- 10:16really,
- 10:16really
- 10:16cool.
- 10:16I
- 10:17think,
- 10:17you
- 10:17know,
- 10:17we
- 10:18often
- 10:18think
- 10:18of
- 10:19Coloration
- 10:20is
- 10:20this
- 10:20very
- 10:20obvious
- 10:21male
- 10:21character
- 10:22that's
- 10:22indicative
- 10:23of
- 10:23quality
- 10:24in
- 10:24birds.
- 10:24But
- 10:25the
- 10:25idea
- 10:25that
- 10:26female
- 10:27chickadees
- 10:28could.
- 10:29Evaluate
- 10:30the
- 10:30spatial
- 10:30memory
- 10:31of
- 10:31a
- 10:32male
- 10:32that's
- 10:32not
- 10:32even
- 10:33their
- 10:33social
- 10:33partner
- 10:33is
- 10:34really
- 10:34wild
- 10:34to
- 10:35me.
- 10:35I
- 10:35mean,
- 10:35I
- 10:36don't
- 10:36even
- 10:36have
- 10:36a
- 10:36good
- 10:36sense
- 10:37of
- 10:37my
- 10:37own
- 10:37partner's
- 10:38spatial
- 10:38memory.
- 10:38And
- 10:39we
- 10:39live
- 10:39together,
- 10:40let
- 10:40alone
- 10:40like
- 10:41watching
- 10:41the
- 10:41neighbor
- 10:42and
- 10:42figuring
- 10:42out
- 10:42like,
- 10:43oh,
- 10:43you
- 10:43actually
- 10:43have
- 10:44better
- 10:45spatial
- 10:45memory
- 10:45than
- 10:45my
- 10:46social
- 10:46mate
- 10:46and
- 10:46I
- 10:46should
- 10:47seek
- 10:47you
- 10:47out
- 10:47for
- 10:47extra
- 10:47pair
- 10:48copulations.
- 10:48How
- 10:49are
- 10:49they
- 10:49doing
- 10:50that?
- 10:50What
- 10:50are
- 10:50they
- 10:51observing?
- 10:52Like,
- 10:52yeah.
- 10:53What
- 10:53do
- 10:53you
- 10:53think
- 10:53is
- 10:53going
- 10:54on
- 10:54there?
- 10:55This
- 10:55is
- 10:55a
- 10:55great
- 10:55question
- 10:56and
- 10:56one
- 10:57that
- 10:57we
- 10:57still
- 10:58have.
- 10:58We
- 10:59have
- 10:59some
- 10:59evidence
- 11:00that
- 11:00it
- 11:00may
- 11:01be
- 11:01something
- 11:01about
- 11:01what
- 11:02we
- 11:02call.
- 11:02So
- 11:02it's.
- 11:02They're
- 11:03called
- 11:03secondary
- 11:03sexual
- 11:04traits.
- 11:04Right.
- 11:05So
- 11:05it's
- 11:05not
- 11:05the
- 11:05primary
- 11:06sex
- 11:06trait
- 11:06like
- 11:07the
- 11:07sex
- 11:07organ
- 11:07itself.
- 11:08Right.
- 11:08But
- 11:09the
- 11:09secondary
- 11:09trait,
- 11:10which
- 11:10might
- 11:10be
- 11:10something
- 11:10like
- 11:11song
- 11:11production
- 11:12for
- 11:12songbirds
- 11:13or
- 11:13plumage
- 11:14variation.
- 11:14So
- 11:14like
- 11:15how,
- 11:15you
- 11:15know,
- 11:15we're
- 11:16talking
- 11:16about
- 11:16chickadees
- 11:16here.
- 11:16So
- 11:17they're
- 11:17achromatic.
- 11:17They
- 11:18actually
- 11:18don't
- 11:18have
- 11:18colorful
- 11:19plumage,
- 11:19but
- 11:20they
- 11:20have
- 11:20very
- 11:20contrasting
- 11:21plumage
- 11:22between
- 11:22these,
- 11:22like,
- 11:23white
- 11:24and
- 11:24black
- 11:24patches
- 11:25on
- 11:25their
- 11:25heads.
- 11:26And
- 11:26so
- 11:27that's
- 11:27where
- 11:28the
- 11:28secondary
- 11:28sexual
- 11:29trait
- 11:29could
- 11:29come
- 11:29into
- 11:29play
- 11:29and
- 11:30might
- 11:30be
- 11:30associated
- 11:31with
- 11:31these
- 11:31cognitive
- 11:32abilities.
- 11:32So
- 11:33something
- 11:33that
- 11:33females
- 11:33can
- 11:34actually
- 11:34overtly
- 11:35assess
- 11:35and
- 11:36like
- 11:36sort
- 11:36of
- 11:36compare
- 11:36among
- 11:37individuals
- 11:38that
- 11:38then
- 11:38is
- 11:39for
- 11:39whatever
- 11:40reason
- 11:40linked
- 11:41to
- 11:41better
- 11:41cognitive
- 11:42ability.
- 11:42So
- 11:43that's
- 11:43one
- 11:43option.
- 11:46We
- 11:46have
- 11:46some
- 11:46evidence
- 11:47that
- 11:47that's
- 11:47true
- 11:48that,
- 11:48you
- 11:48know,
- 11:49smarter
- 11:49males
- 11:49or
- 11:49males
- 11:50that
- 11:50perform
- 11:50better
- 11:50on
- 11:51this
- 11:51facial
- 11:51task.
- 11:51I'm
- 11:52going
- 11:52to
- 11:52say
- 11:52smarter
- 11:52just
- 11:52for,
- 11:53you
- 11:53know,
- 11:54ease
- 11:54of
- 11:55chatting
- 11:55about
- 11:55it.
- 11:56But
- 11:56these
- 11:56smarter
- 11:57males
- 11:58sing
- 11:58more
- 11:59throughout
- 11:59the
- 11:59day.
- 11:59So
- 12:00we
- 12:00do
- 12:00know
- 12:00that.
- 12:01We
- 12:01also
- 12:01have
- 12:01some
- 12:02evidence
- 12:02that
- 12:02there's
- 12:02like
- 12:03more
- 12:03contrast
- 12:04in
- 12:04their
- 12:04head
- 12:05regions,
- 12:05which
- 12:05is
- 12:06pretty
- 12:06cool.
- 12:06So
- 12:07females
- 12:08could
- 12:08be
- 12:08using
- 12:08that
- 12:09to
- 12:09ID
- 12:10the
- 12:10males.
- 12:11But
- 12:12the
- 12:12reality
- 12:13is
- 12:13they
- 12:13spend
- 12:14all
- 12:14winter
- 12:15with
- 12:15these
- 12:15other
- 12:15birds.
- 12:16They
- 12:16end
- 12:16up,
- 12:16like
- 12:17you
- 12:17mentioned.
- 12:17Yeah.
- 12:18So
- 12:18they,
- 12:18you
- 12:18mentioned
- 12:19they
- 12:19often
- 12:19seek
- 12:20like
- 12:20nearby
- 12:20males
- 12:21for
- 12:21their
- 12:21extra
- 12:22pair
- 12:22copulations
- 12:23because,
- 12:23you
- 12:23know,
- 12:23the
- 12:23female's
- 12:24having
- 12:24to
- 12:24leave
- 12:24her
- 12:24territory
- 12:25and
- 12:25find
- 12:26these
- 12:26other
- 12:26individuals
- 12:26and
- 12:27she
- 12:27doesn't
- 12:27have
- 12:27all
- 12:27the
- 12:28time
- 12:28in
- 12:28the
- 12:28world
- 12:28because.
- 12:29Right.
- 12:29The
- 12:30social
- 12:30media
- 12:30things
- 12:31to
- 12:31do
- 12:31gets
- 12:31suspicious.
- 12:32Right.
- 12:32Like
- 12:33there's
- 12:33evidence
- 12:34that
- 12:34they
- 12:34will
- 12:34change
- 12:35their
- 12:36feeding
- 12:36behavior
- 12:37and
- 12:37parental
- 12:37behavior
- 12:38if
- 12:38the
- 12:38female's
- 12:38gone
- 12:39for
- 12:39too
- 12:39long.
- 12:39Right.
- 12:40That's
- 12:40another
- 12:40species,
- 12:41not
- 12:41in
- 12:41chickadees,
- 12:43but
- 12:43so
- 12:43they're
- 12:43aware,
- 12:44right.
- 12:44They're
- 12:44like,
- 12:44where's
- 12:45my
- 12:45female?
- 12:45She's
- 12:46been
- 12:46gone
- 12:46for
- 12:46a
- 12:46long
- 12:46time.
- 12:47These
- 12:47may
- 12:47not
- 12:48be
- 12:48my
- 12:48chicks.
- 12:49So
- 12:49I'm
- 12:49not
- 12:49going
- 12:49to
- 12:50feed
- 12:50them
- 12:50as
- 12:50much.
- 12:51But
- 12:51anywho.
- 12:52But
- 12:52yeah.
- 12:52So
- 12:52she
- 12:53seeks
- 12:53these
- 12:53opportunities
- 12:54with
- 12:54these
- 12:54neighboring
- 12:54males.
- 12:55Right.
- 12:55And
- 12:55they
- 12:57are
- 12:58ones
- 12:58that
- 12:58she
- 12:58most
- 12:59likely
- 12:59has
- 12:59spent
- 12:59all
- 12:59winter
- 13:00with
- 13:00because
- 13:00they
- 13:00winter
- 13:00in
- 13:01these
- 13:01flocks.
- 13:01They're
- 13:01already
- 13:02paired
- 13:02up
- 13:02and
- 13:02they're
- 13:02little
- 13:03social
- 13:03pairs
- 13:04in
- 13:04those
- 13:04flocks.
- 13:05And
- 13:05so
- 13:06the
- 13:06likelihood
- 13:06is
- 13:06that
- 13:07she's
- 13:07pretty
- 13:07aware
- 13:08of
- 13:08how
- 13:09good
- 13:09they've
- 13:10been
- 13:10able
- 13:10to
- 13:10recover
- 13:11their
- 13:11food
- 13:11stores.
- 13:12So,
- 13:13you
- 13:13know,
- 13:13part
- 13:13of
- 13:13me
- 13:14wonders
- 13:14if
- 13:14it's
- 13:14just
- 13:14direct
- 13:15observation.
- 13:16She's
- 13:16like,
- 13:16look,
- 13:16I
- 13:17know
- 13:17the
- 13:17reality
- 13:17is
- 13:18Jerry
- 13:19has
- 13:19got
- 13:19the
- 13:19best
- 13:20cognition.
- 13:20I
- 13:20wasn't
- 13:21able
- 13:21to
- 13:21mate
- 13:21with
- 13:21him.
- 13:21He
- 13:22was
- 13:22already
- 13:22paired
- 13:22up
- 13:22for
- 13:23the,
- 13:23for
- 13:24the
- 13:24winter
- 13:24or
- 13:24for
- 13:24the
- 13:24summer.
- 13:25Right.
- 13:25But
- 13:26I
- 13:26could
- 13:26have
- 13:26extra
- 13:27pair
- 13:27mates
- 13:27with
- 13:27him
- 13:28and
- 13:28get
- 13:28his
- 13:28jeans.
- 13:29So.
- 13:30Yeah,
- 13:30it's
- 13:30a
- 13:31good
- 13:31point.
- 13:31With
- 13:31chickadees,
- 13:32like,
- 13:32they
- 13:32form
- 13:32those,
- 13:32those
- 13:33winter
- 13:33flocks
- 13:33that
- 13:33are
- 13:34quite
- 13:34stable
- 13:34and
- 13:34have
- 13:35these
- 13:35dominance
- 13:35hierarchies.
- 13:36And
- 13:36those
- 13:36dominance
- 13:37hierarchies
- 13:37have
- 13:37been
- 13:37shown
- 13:38to
- 13:38be
- 13:38super
- 13:38important
- 13:39in
- 13:39terms
- 13:39of
- 13:39who
- 13:40gets
- 13:40to
- 13:40mate
- 13:40with
- 13:40who.
- 13:41They
- 13:41do
- 13:41spend
- 13:41a
- 13:41lot
- 13:42of
- 13:42time.
- 13:42Together
- 13:42over
- 13:43the
- 13:43winter
- 13:43and
- 13:44they
- 13:44do,
- 13:44I
- 13:44guess.
- 13:44Yeah,
- 13:45that
- 13:45direct
- 13:45observation
- 13:46piece
- 13:46is
- 13:46a
- 13:46really
- 13:46cool
- 13:47idea.
- 13:47Yeah,
- 13:48that's.
- 13:48Yeah,
- 13:48that's
- 13:48kind
- 13:48of
- 13:48what
- 13:49we've
- 13:49thought
- 13:49about
- 13:49because
- 13:49it's
- 13:49interesting.
- 13:50Like,
- 13:51you
- 13:51know,
- 13:53when
- 13:53we
- 13:53say
- 13:53choice
- 13:54with
- 13:54female
- 13:55choice,
- 13:55it's
- 13:55like
- 13:56they
- 13:56don't
- 13:56really
- 13:56have
- 13:57the
- 13:57choice
- 13:57of
- 13:57any
- 13:58male
- 13:58in
- 13:58the
- 13:58forest.
- 13:59Right.
- 13:59They're
- 13:59limited
- 14:00and
- 14:00constrained.
- 14:01Who's
- 14:01not
- 14:01mated
- 14:02yet.
- 14:03Right.
- 14:03So,
- 14:04yeah,
- 14:04absolutely.
- 14:05Yeah.
- 14:05One
- 14:06of
- 14:06my
- 14:06other
- 14:06questions
- 14:06which
- 14:07you
- 14:07kind
- 14:07of
- 14:07started
- 14:08touching
- 14:08on
- 14:08was
- 14:08like,
- 14:09how
- 14:09do
- 14:10males
- 14:10respond?
- 14:10I
- 14:11mean,
- 14:11we
- 14:11know
- 14:11that
- 14:12extra
- 14:12pair
- 14:13copulations
- 14:14or
- 14:14extra
- 14:14pair
- 14:14paternity
- 14:15is
- 14:16variably
- 14:16common
- 14:17across
- 14:17the
- 14:18bird
- 14:18tree
- 14:19of
- 14:19life.
- 14:19But
- 14:19in
- 14:19some
- 14:20cases,
- 14:20you
- 14:20know,
- 14:21you
- 14:21can
- 14:21have
- 14:2130,
- 14:2250%
- 14:23of
- 14:23the
- 14:23chicks
- 14:23in
- 14:24a
- 14:24given
- 14:24nest
- 14:24are
- 14:24not
- 14:25chicks
- 14:26of
- 14:26that
- 14:26social,
- 14:27that
- 14:27social
- 14:28father.
- 14:28There's
- 14:28some
- 14:29somebody
- 14:29else's
- 14:30chicks
- 14:30that
- 14:30he's
- 14:30taking
- 14:30care
- 14:31of.
- 14:31So
- 14:31you
- 14:32alluded
- 14:32to
- 14:32this
- 14:32a
- 14:32little
- 14:32bit,
- 14:33but
- 14:33can
- 14:34you
- 14:34give
- 14:34other
- 14:34examples
- 14:35of
- 14:35how
- 14:35males
- 14:35respond
- 14:36in
- 14:36these
- 14:36situations
- 14:37where
- 14:37it
- 14:38may
- 14:38be
- 14:38that
- 14:38they're
- 14:38not
- 14:39feeding
- 14:39their
- 14:39own
- 14:39offspring?
- 14:40Yeah.
- 14:40So,
- 14:41I
- 14:41mean,
- 14:41I
- 14:41think
- 14:41luckily
- 14:42for
- 14:42the
- 14:42female,
- 14:43the
- 14:44evolutionary
- 14:45timescale
- 14:46or,
- 14:46you
- 14:46know,
- 14:47selection
- 14:47hasn't
- 14:47quite
- 14:48caught
- 14:48up
- 14:48with
- 14:48them
- 14:49yet
- 14:49because
- 14:50oftentimes
- 14:51males
- 14:51are
- 14:52not
- 14:52able
- 14:52to
- 14:52like,
- 14:52recognize
- 14:53their
- 14:53own
- 14:53chicks.
- 14:54Most
- 14:54female
- 14:54females
- 14:54can't
- 14:55even
- 14:55recognize
- 14:55their
- 14:55own
- 14:56chicks.
- 14:56Right,
- 14:56yeah,
- 14:56that's
- 14:56a
- 14:57good
- 14:57point.
- 14:57Some
- 14:58can.
- 14:58You
- 14:58know,
- 14:58that
- 14:58gets
- 14:59into
- 14:59the
- 14:59whole
- 14:59brood
- 15:00parasitism
- 15:00of
- 15:00it
- 15:00all.
- 15:01But
- 15:01even
- 15:02among
- 15:03Females
- 15:04and
- 15:04other
- 15:04species.
- 15:05Think
- 15:05of
- 15:05American
- 15:06coots,
- 15:06right?
- 15:07And
- 15:07so
- 15:07the
- 15:08females
- 15:08will
- 15:09prioritize
- 15:09certain
- 15:11chicks
- 15:11over
- 15:11others
- 15:12and
- 15:12they
- 15:12can
- 15:12tell
- 15:12the
- 15:12difference
- 15:13in
- 15:13their
- 15:14other
- 15:14females
- 15:15that
- 15:15will
- 15:15lay
- 15:15eggs
- 15:15in
- 15:15their
- 15:16nests.
- 15:16Right.
- 15:16And
- 15:16they'll
- 15:17actually
- 15:18kill
- 15:19those
- 15:19extra
- 15:19chicks
- 15:20that
- 15:20aren't
- 15:20theirs.
- 15:20Right.
- 15:21So
- 15:21they
- 15:21can
- 15:21recognize
- 15:21them.
- 15:22But
- 15:22males,
- 15:23as
- 15:23far
- 15:23as
- 15:23I
- 15:24know,
- 15:24I
- 15:24don't
- 15:24think
- 15:24that
- 15:25they
- 15:25can.
- 15:25So
- 15:26they
- 15:26don't.
- 15:26They
- 15:27wouldn't
- 15:27be
- 15:27able
- 15:27to
- 15:28discriminate
- 15:28within
- 15:28the
- 15:29nest,
- 15:29like
- 15:29who's
- 15:29theirs
- 15:30and
- 15:30who
- 15:30isn't.
- 15:32But
- 15:32as
- 15:33I
- 15:33mentioned,
- 15:33there
- 15:33have
- 15:34been
- 15:34these
- 15:34removal
- 15:35studies
- 15:35of
- 15:35other
- 15:36species
- 15:36where,
- 15:36yeah,
- 15:37you
- 15:37take
- 15:37the
- 15:38female
- 15:38away
- 15:39for
- 15:39a
- 15:40certain
- 15:40period
- 15:40of
- 15:40time
- 15:41and
- 15:41the
- 15:41longer
- 15:41she's
- 15:42gone,
- 15:42you
- 15:43see
- 15:43the
- 15:43reduction
- 15:44in
- 15:44his
- 15:44parental
- 15:45provisioning
- 15:46or
- 15:46how
- 15:46much
- 15:46food
- 15:46he's
- 15:47bringing,
- 15:47how
- 15:47many
- 15:47visits
- 15:48he's
- 15:48making
- 15:49to
- 15:49the
- 15:49nest.
- 15:50Yeah,
- 15:50definitely.
- 15:51I've.
- 15:51Yeah,
- 15:51there's
- 15:52joint
- 15:53singing
- 15:54behaviors
- 15:54that
- 15:55seem
- 15:55to
- 15:55reinforce
- 15:55pair
- 15:56bonds
- 15:56and
- 15:56reduce
- 15:56the
- 15:57frequency
- 15:57of
- 15:58extra
- 15:58pair
- 15:58copulation.
- 15:59There's
- 15:59definitely
- 16:00mate
- 16:00guarding
- 16:01during
- 16:01the
- 16:01fertile
- 16:01period
- 16:01that
- 16:02comes.
- 16:02Absolutely.
- 16:04I
- 16:04guess
- 16:04males
- 16:04have
- 16:05their
- 16:05ways
- 16:05of
- 16:05trying
- 16:06to
- 16:06make
- 16:06sure
- 16:06that
- 16:06it's
- 16:07their
- 16:07chicks,
- 16:07they're
- 16:07taken
- 16:07care
- 16:08of,
- 16:08but
- 16:08they
- 16:09can't
- 16:09watch
- 16:09the
- 16:09female
- 16:10all
- 16:10the
- 16:10time.
- 16:10Oh,
- 16:10yeah,
- 16:11there's
- 16:11always.
- 16:11Yeah,
- 16:11there's
- 16:12absolutely
- 16:12mate
- 16:12guarding.
- 16:13And
- 16:13yes,
- 16:13you're
- 16:13absolutely
- 16:14right.
- 16:14They
- 16:14do,
- 16:15like,
- 16:15keep
- 16:15an
- 16:15eye
- 16:15on
- 16:16her
- 16:16and
- 16:16make
- 16:16sure
- 16:17that
- 16:17she's
- 16:17not
- 16:17off
- 16:18somewhere
- 16:18and
- 16:18that's
- 16:18where
- 16:18that
- 16:19comes
- 16:19in.
- 16:19When
- 16:19she's
- 16:20gone
- 16:20for
- 16:20too
- 16:20long,
- 16:20it's
- 16:20like,
- 16:21what's
- 16:21going
- 16:21on,
- 16:21the
- 16:22jig.
- 16:22Yeah,
- 16:22yeah.
- 16:22The
- 16:23suspicion.
- 16:23Yeah,
- 16:24yeah,
- 16:24yeah.
- 16:25Okay.
- 16:26So
- 16:26we've
- 16:26been
- 16:26talking
- 16:26about
- 16:27monogamy
- 16:28in
- 16:28birds
- 16:28and
- 16:28the
- 16:29fact
- 16:29that
- 16:29social
- 16:29monogamy
- 16:30is
- 16:30quite
- 16:30common
- 16:30in
- 16:31birds,
- 16:31but
- 16:31genetic
- 16:31monogamy
- 16:32is
- 16:32rare.
- 16:32But
- 16:33in
- 16:33order
- 16:33to
- 16:33know
- 16:33that,
- 16:33we
- 16:34needed
- 16:34new
- 16:34tools.
- 16:35And
- 16:35so
- 16:35could
- 16:36you
- 16:36walk
- 16:36us
- 16:36through,
- 16:36like,
- 16:37how
- 16:37we
- 16:37actually
- 16:37evaluate
- 16:39whether
- 16:39a
- 16:40brood
- 16:40contains
- 16:41chicks
- 16:42from
- 16:42another
- 16:42male.
- 16:43So,
- 16:43you
- 16:43know
- 16:43what's
- 16:43interesting
- 16:44and
- 16:44I
- 16:44guess,
- 16:44but
- 16:44like,
- 16:45each
- 16:45egg
- 16:46that
- 16:46a
- 16:47female
- 16:47lays
- 16:48is
- 16:48fertilized,
- 16:50like
- 16:50one
- 16:50at
- 16:51a
- 16:51time.
- 16:51Right.
- 16:51So
- 16:52the
- 16:52day
- 16:52before,
- 16:53you
- 16:53know,
- 16:53however
- 16:54many
- 16:54hours
- 16:54before,
- 16:54that's
- 16:55when
- 16:55it's
- 16:55actually
- 16:55fertilized.
- 16:56So
- 16:56they're
- 16:56not
- 16:56all
- 16:56fertilized
- 16:57at
- 16:57once.
- 16:58So
- 16:58that
- 16:58opens
- 16:59that
- 16:59opportunity
- 16:59up
- 17:00for,
- 17:00you
- 17:01know,
- 17:01multiple
- 17:01paternity
- 17:02in
- 17:02there.
- 17:03And
- 17:03so
- 17:04for
- 17:04birds,
- 17:04we
- 17:05can
- 17:05just
- 17:05take
- 17:05blood
- 17:05from
- 17:06them
- 17:06and
- 17:06it
- 17:07makes
- 17:07it
- 17:08pretty
- 17:08easy
- 17:08and
- 17:08like,
- 17:09pretty
- 17:09reliable
- 17:09in
- 17:10terms
- 17:10of
- 17:10getting
- 17:10really
- 17:10high
- 17:10quality
- 17:11samples
- 17:12from
- 17:12individuals.
- 17:13And.
- 17:13Yeah,
- 17:13so
- 17:13then
- 17:14we
- 17:14just,
- 17:14you
- 17:14know,
- 17:14we
- 17:14have
- 17:15to
- 17:15sort
- 17:15of
- 17:16target
- 17:16certain
- 17:17areas
- 17:18of
- 17:18the
- 17:18genome
- 17:19again
- 17:19because
- 17:19it's
- 17:19a
- 17:20reduced
- 17:20representation
- 17:21is
- 17:21what
- 17:21we
- 17:21call
- 17:21it's
- 17:22called
- 17:22DD
- 17:22rad.
- 17:23So
- 17:23it's
- 17:23like
- 17:23a
- 17:23double
- 17:23digest,
- 17:24reduced
- 17:24representation
- 17:27analysis.
- 17:27Not
- 17:27that
- 17:27that
- 17:28matters.
- 17:28Write
- 17:28that
- 17:28down.
- 17:29We'll
- 17:29do
- 17:29a
- 17:29quiz
- 17:29later.
- 17:30I
- 17:31mean,
- 17:31basically
- 17:31they
- 17:32digest
- 17:32the
- 17:32DNA
- 17:33with
- 17:33these
- 17:33enzymes.
- 17:34Right.
- 17:34That
- 17:35cut
- 17:35certain
- 17:35parts
- 17:36of
- 17:36the
- 17:36genome.
- 17:36And
- 17:36then
- 17:37we
- 17:37sequence
- 17:37out
- 17:37from
- 17:38those
- 17:38cuts
- 17:38sites
- 17:39and
- 17:39compare
- 17:39the
- 17:40genetic
- 17:40variation
- 17:41from
- 17:41those
- 17:41cut
- 17:41sites.
- 17:41Exactly
- 17:42right.
- 17:42And
- 17:42so
- 17:42like,
- 17:42how
- 17:43many,
- 17:43you
- 17:44know,
- 17:44of
- 17:44these
- 17:45thousand
- 17:45SNPs,
- 17:46for
- 17:46example,
- 17:47you
- 17:47know,
- 17:47how
- 17:47many
- 17:48differ
- 17:48between
- 17:49like
- 17:49a
- 17:49purported
- 17:50male
- 17:51and
- 17:51the.
- 17:51The.
- 17:52And
- 17:53the
- 17:53chick.
- 17:53Yeah.
- 17:53So
- 17:53then
- 17:54we
- 17:54use
- 17:54these
- 17:55different
- 17:56softwares
- 17:56that
- 17:57actually
- 17:57can
- 17:57tell
- 17:57us,
- 17:58you
- 17:58know,
- 17:58combined
- 17:59the,
- 18:00the
- 18:00mother,
- 18:00the
- 18:00chick
- 18:01and
- 18:01the
- 18:01father,
- 18:02who
- 18:02we
- 18:02think
- 18:03it
- 18:03is,
- 18:03like
- 18:03sort
- 18:03of.
- 18:03What's
- 18:04their
- 18:04score?
- 18:04Score
- 18:04of
- 18:05relatedness.
- 18:06And
- 18:06if
- 18:06it's
- 18:07too
- 18:07low,
- 18:07then
- 18:08we're
- 18:08like,
- 18:08oh,
- 18:08it's
- 18:09probably
- 18:09not
- 18:10the
- 18:10correct
- 18:10father.
- 18:10And
- 18:11then
- 18:11you
- 18:12can
- 18:12put
- 18:12in
- 18:12other
- 18:12options
- 18:13to
- 18:13these
- 18:14programs.
- 18:14Once
- 18:15you
- 18:15have
- 18:15all
- 18:15of
- 18:15the
- 18:15sequences
- 18:17of
- 18:17the
- 18:17different
- 18:18individuals,
- 18:18then
- 18:19you
- 18:19can
- 18:19kind
- 18:19of
- 18:19assess
- 18:19that
- 18:20that
- 18:20way.
- 18:24Again,
- 18:24thinking
- 18:25about
- 18:25the
- 18:25genetics
- 18:26of
- 18:26it
- 18:26all,
- 18:26our
- 18:26ability
- 18:27to
- 18:27ask
- 18:28these
- 18:28questions
- 18:28has
- 18:28really
- 18:28changed
- 18:29even
- 18:29since
- 18:29you
- 18:30and
- 18:30I
- 18:30were
- 18:30graduate
- 18:30students,
- 18:31which
- 18:31feels
- 18:32very
- 18:32recent.
- 18:33But
- 18:33it
- 18:33was
- 18:33so
- 18:34recent,
- 18:34Scott.
- 18:34It
- 18:35was
- 18:35so
- 18:35recent.
- 18:35I.
- 18:36Early
- 18:36career.
- 18:38Yeah.
- 18:38Well,
- 18:38I'm
- 18:39mid
- 18:39career,
- 18:39I
- 18:39guess.
- 18:40You're
- 18:40mid.
- 18:40So
- 18:41mid.
- 18:42But
- 18:43it
- 18:43is
- 18:43interesting
- 18:43that
- 18:43now
- 18:44we
- 18:44can
- 18:44sequence
- 18:45whole
- 18:45genomes
- 18:45relatively
- 18:46in
- 18:46a
- 18:46cost
- 18:46effective
- 18:47way
- 18:47and
- 18:47ask
- 18:47these
- 18:47questions
- 18:48about
- 18:48who's
- 18:48related
- 18:49to
- 18:49whom.
- 18:49And
- 18:50it's
- 18:50shedding
- 18:50some
- 18:50really
- 18:51interesting
- 18:51light
- 18:51on
- 18:53the
- 18:54decisions
- 18:54birds
- 18:54make
- 18:55and
- 18:55the
- 18:55evolutionary
- 18:55pressures
- 18:56that
- 18:57shape
- 18:57them.
- 18:57We've
- 18:58been
- 18:58talking
- 18:58about
- 19:00this
- 19:01idea
- 19:01of
- 19:01social
- 19:01monogamy
- 19:02in
- 19:02birds.
- 19:02The
- 19:03fact
- 19:03that
- 19:04many
- 19:04birds
- 19:04are
- 19:04socially
- 19:05monogamous,
- 19:05so
- 19:05they
- 19:05have
- 19:05one
- 19:06social
- 19:06mate,
- 19:06but
- 19:06they
- 19:06step
- 19:07out
- 19:07of
- 19:07that
- 19:07pair
- 19:08bond.
- 19:08And
- 19:09different
- 19:09species
- 19:09have
- 19:10different
- 19:10rates
- 19:10of
- 19:10extra
- 19:11pair
- 19:11copulation.
- 19:11You
- 19:12know,
- 19:12house
- 19:12wrens
- 19:12have
- 19:12really
- 19:13high
- 19:13rates
- 19:13of
- 19:13extra
- 19:13pair
- 19:14copulation.
- 19:15Most
- 19:15seabirds,
- 19:16it's
- 19:16pretty
- 19:16low.
- 19:17But
- 19:18why
- 19:18might
- 19:19it
- 19:19vary?
- 19:19What
- 19:19evidence
- 19:20is
- 19:20there
- 19:20that
- 19:20these
- 19:20behaviors
- 19:21vary
- 19:21across
- 19:22environments,
- 19:23across
- 19:24individuals
- 19:25or
- 19:25across
- 19:25populations?
- 19:27So
- 19:27it's
- 19:27a
- 19:27really
- 19:28interesting
- 19:28species,
- 19:29the
- 19:29Dunnock,
- 19:30which
- 19:30is
- 19:31a
- 19:31European
- 19:32songbird,
- 19:32which,
- 19:33like,
- 19:33looks
- 19:33quite
- 19:33drab
- 19:34when
- 19:34you.
- 19:34Super
- 19:35drab.
- 19:35Yeah.
- 19:35When
- 19:35I
- 19:36show
- 19:36them
- 19:36to
- 19:36my
- 19:36ornithology
- 19:37students,
- 19:37they're
- 19:37always
- 19:37surprised.
- 19:38It's
- 19:38just
- 19:38this
- 19:39pretty
- 19:39drab
- 19:40little
- 19:40brown
- 19:40bird.
- 19:41Yeah.
- 19:41But
- 19:41they're
- 19:42up
- 19:42to
- 19:43all
- 19:43of
- 19:43it,
- 19:43man.
- 19:44They,
- 19:44like,
- 19:45have
- 19:45all
- 19:45of
- 19:45the.
- 19:46They.
- 19:46So
- 19:46there's
- 19:47different
- 19:47mating
- 19:47systems,
- 19:48if
- 19:48you
- 19:48want
- 19:48to
- 19:48think
- 19:48of
- 19:48it
- 19:49that
- 19:49way.
- 19:49Right.
- 19:49So
- 19:49there's
- 19:49like,
- 19:50you
- 19:50know,
- 19:50social
- 19:50monogamy,
- 19:51genetic
- 19:52monogamy,
- 19:54males
- 19:54that
- 19:55mate
- 19:55with
- 19:55multiple
- 19:55females,
- 19:56females
- 19:56that
- 19:56mate
- 19:57with
- 19:57multiple
- 19:57males,
- 19:57et
- 19:57cetera,
- 19:57et
- 19:58cetera.
- 19:58And
- 19:59dunnocks
- 19:59seem
- 19:59to
- 20:00express
- 20:00all
- 20:00of
- 20:00these
- 20:01different
- 20:01behaviors.
- 20:02So
- 20:02they
- 20:02will
- 20:02show
- 20:02all
- 20:03these
- 20:03different
- 20:03mating
- 20:04system
- 20:04types,
- 20:06like,
- 20:06depending
- 20:06on
- 20:07resource
- 20:08availability.
- 20:08So,
- 20:08like,
- 20:08how
- 20:09much
- 20:09food
- 20:09is
- 20:09available,
- 20:10how
- 20:10good
- 20:10the
- 20:11territory
- 20:11they
- 20:11were
- 20:11able
- 20:11to
- 20:12get
- 20:12that
- 20:12year
- 20:12is.
- 20:13So
- 20:13they
- 20:14might,
- 20:14you
- 20:14know,
- 20:15you
- 20:15might
- 20:15see
- 20:15a
- 20:15male
- 20:15that
- 20:16has
- 20:16multiple
- 20:16females,
- 20:17you
- 20:17might
- 20:17see
- 20:17a
- 20:17female
- 20:17who
- 20:17has
- 20:18multiple
- 20:18males,
- 20:18or
- 20:19you
- 20:19might
- 20:19see
- 20:19multiple
- 20:20pairs
- 20:20actually
- 20:20mating
- 20:21with
- 20:21each
- 20:21other
- 20:22and
- 20:22like
- 20:23everything
- 20:23in
- 20:23between.
- 20:24And
- 20:24that's
- 20:25called
- 20:25polygonandry,
- 20:26right?
- 20:26When
- 20:26everything.
- 20:27Polygonandry,
- 20:28yes.
- 20:29Everyone's
- 20:29doing
- 20:30everything
- 20:30all
- 20:30at
- 20:30once.
- 20:31Kind
- 20:31of
- 20:31like,
- 20:31like
- 20:32polygynous,
- 20:33polyamorous,
- 20:35like,
- 20:35you
- 20:35know,
- 20:35polyandrous.
- 20:36So
- 20:36polygonandrous.
- 20:37I
- 20:37know
- 20:38that's
- 20:38always
- 20:38like
- 20:38a
- 20:38mouthful
- 20:38for
- 20:39my
- 20:39students
- 20:39too.
- 20:39It's
- 20:40like,
- 20:40what
- 20:40I
- 20:41mean,
- 20:41it's
- 20:41amazing
- 20:41that
- 20:41within
- 20:42that
- 20:42one
- 20:42species
- 20:43you
- 20:43see
- 20:43all
- 20:43that
- 20:43variation,
- 20:44because
- 20:44you'd
- 20:44never
- 20:44see
- 20:45that
- 20:45kind
- 20:45of
- 20:45variation
- 20:46in
- 20:46chickadees.
- 20:46You
- 20:46might
- 20:47see,
- 20:47like
- 20:47from
- 20:48season
- 20:48to
- 20:48season,
- 20:49different
- 20:49numbers
- 20:49of
- 20:49extra
- 20:50pair
- 20:50young
- 20:50in
- 20:50a
- 20:50nest,
- 20:51but
- 20:51certainly
- 20:51not
- 20:52an
- 20:52entirely
- 20:52different,
- 20:53like,
- 20:53from
- 20:53social
- 20:54monogamy
- 20:54to
- 20:55polyandry.
- 20:57Polygamy
- 20:57and
- 20:58polygonandry.
- 20:59I
- 20:59think
- 20:59it's.
- 20:59The
- 21:00history
- 21:00of
- 21:00the
- 21:00story
- 21:01of
- 21:01the
- 21:01Dunnock
- 21:01is
- 21:01funny
- 21:02too.
- 21:02Cause
- 21:02I
- 21:03think
- 21:03a
- 21:03lot
- 21:03of
- 21:03the
- 21:03initial
- 21:04insights
- 21:04into
- 21:04Dunnic
- 21:05breeding
- 21:05behavior
- 21:06came
- 21:06from,
- 21:08I
- 21:08don't
- 21:08know
- 21:08if
- 21:08he
- 21:08was
- 21:08a
- 21:08priest
- 21:09or
- 21:10he
- 21:11was
- 21:11a
- 21:11man
- 21:11of
- 21:12faith.
- 21:12Anyways,
- 21:12he
- 21:13really
- 21:13thought
- 21:13the
- 21:13Dunnock
- 21:14was
- 21:14this
- 21:14very
- 21:14humble
- 21:15creature,
- 21:15and
- 21:16he
- 21:16thought
- 21:16that
- 21:17that
- 21:17was
- 21:17a
- 21:17great
- 21:17trait
- 21:18to
- 21:18encourage
- 21:18in
- 21:18his
- 21:19parishioners.
- 21:19But
- 21:20if
- 21:20he
- 21:20knowed
- 21:20a
- 21:20little
- 21:20bit.
- 21:22If
- 21:22he
- 21:22knowed
- 21:23a
- 21:23little
- 21:23bit
- 21:23more.
- 21:23About
- 21:24the
- 21:24Dunnock's
- 21:24behavior,
- 21:25depending
- 21:25on
- 21:25resource
- 21:26availability,
- 21:26I
- 21:27don't
- 21:27think
- 21:27he
- 21:27would
- 21:27have
- 21:27been
- 21:27encouraging
- 21:28parishioners
- 21:29to.
- 21:29To
- 21:29engage
- 21:30in
- 21:30polykinandry
- 21:31or
- 21:32these
- 21:33other
- 21:33things.
- 21:33Yeah,
- 21:33What
- 21:34a
- 21:34square.
- 21:35Yeah.
- 21:36All
- 21:36right,
- 21:37so
- 21:37we're
- 21:37at
- 21:37that
- 21:37part
- 21:38in
- 21:38the
- 21:38podcast
- 21:38that
- 21:39we
- 21:39like
- 21:39to
- 21:39call
- 21:40that's
- 21:40BS
- 21:41or
- 21:42that's
- 21:42bird
- 21:43stuff.
- 21:43And
- 21:43this
- 21:43is
- 21:44an
- 21:44opportunity
- 21:44for
- 21:44our
- 21:45guests
- 21:45to
- 21:46tell
- 21:46us
- 21:46something
- 21:46about
- 21:47the
- 21:47topic
- 21:47that.
- 21:48A
- 21:49myth
- 21:49they
- 21:49want
- 21:49to
- 21:49bust
- 21:50or
- 21:50something
- 21:50that
- 21:50ruffles
- 21:51their
- 21:51feathers
- 21:51in
- 21:51this
- 21:52case,
- 21:52about
- 21:52this
- 21:52idea
- 21:53of
- 21:53bird
- 21:53monogamy.
- 21:56I
- 21:56think
- 21:56that
- 21:56our
- 21:56temperate
- 21:57bias
- 21:57shows
- 21:58a
- 21:58lot.
- 21:58And
- 21:58I
- 21:59speak,
- 21:59I'm
- 21:59speaking
- 21:59to
- 21:59myself
- 22:01included,
- 22:02because
- 22:03related
- 22:03to
- 22:04sort
- 22:04of
- 22:04mate
- 22:04choice,
- 22:05we
- 22:06think
- 22:06of
- 22:06males
- 22:06as
- 22:06being
- 22:07the
- 22:07ones
- 22:07that
- 22:07primarily
- 22:08sing.
- 22:08Right.
- 22:09But
- 22:09we
- 22:10know
- 22:11that
- 22:12the
- 22:12evolutionary
- 22:12history
- 22:13of
- 22:13song,
- 22:14actually
- 22:14females
- 22:14also
- 22:15sang
- 22:15originally
- 22:16the
- 22:16original
- 22:17songbird
- 22:19that
- 22:19all
- 22:19the
- 22:19songbirds
- 22:20radiated
- 22:21from
- 22:22saying
- 22:22as
- 22:22well.
- 22:22And
- 22:22actually
- 22:23female
- 22:23song
- 22:24is
- 22:24actually
- 22:24quite
- 22:24common
- 22:26below
- 22:26the
- 22:27northern
- 22:27hemisphere
- 22:28and
- 22:28even
- 22:28in
- 22:28the
- 22:28northern
- 22:28hemisphere
- 22:30in
- 22:30a
- 22:30lot
- 22:30of
- 22:30instances.
- 22:31So
- 22:31that's
- 22:31something
- 22:31I
- 22:32like
- 22:32to
- 22:32bring
- 22:33up
- 22:33to
- 22:33remind
- 22:34folks
- 22:34that
- 22:35our
- 22:35categorizations
- 22:36are
- 22:37almost
- 22:37always
- 22:37wrong.
- 22:38Every
- 22:38time
- 22:38we
- 22:38try
- 22:38to
- 22:38make
- 22:38a
- 22:39category,
- 22:39it's
- 22:39like,
- 22:39ugh,
- 22:40nope,
- 22:40here's
- 22:4017
- 22:41exceptions.
- 22:42Exactly.
- 22:43Biology
- 22:44is
- 22:44the
- 22:44exception
- 22:44to
- 22:44the
- 22:45rule.
- 22:45I
- 22:45totally
- 22:45agree
- 22:45with
- 22:46you.
- 22:46I
- 22:46think
- 22:46pointing
- 22:46out
- 22:47that,
- 22:47you
- 22:48know,
- 22:48who
- 22:48has
- 22:48studied
- 22:49bird
- 22:49biology
- 22:50really
- 22:50has
- 22:50dictated
- 22:50how
- 22:51we've
- 22:51thought
- 22:51about
- 22:51it.
- 22:51And
- 22:52this
- 22:52idea
- 22:52that
- 22:52female
- 22:53birds
- 22:53don't
- 22:53sing
- 22:54probably
- 22:54comes
- 22:55from
- 22:55this
- 22:55history
- 22:55of
- 22:56really
- 22:56mostly
- 22:57men
- 22:57studying
- 22:57birds.
- 22:58But
- 22:58female
- 22:59bird
- 22:59song
- 22:59is
- 22:59common
- 23:00and
- 23:00probably
- 23:00very
- 23:01well.
- 23:01It
- 23:01is
- 23:01very
- 23:01important
- 23:02as
- 23:02people
- 23:02are
- 23:02finding.
- 23:03So
- 23:03I
- 23:03think
- 23:03that's
- 23:03an
- 23:03excellent
- 23:04myth
- 23:04to
- 23:04bust
- 23:05in
- 23:05the
- 23:05context
- 23:05of
- 23:06mate
- 23:06choice.
- 23:06Females
- 23:06sing
- 23:07too,
- 23:07and
- 23:08they
- 23:08make
- 23:08choices.
- 23:08It's
- 23:09not
- 23:09all
- 23:09passive,
- 23:10as
- 23:10we
- 23:10have
- 23:10been
- 23:10led
- 23:11to
- 23:11think
- 23:11for
- 23:11many
- 23:11years.
- 23:12Oh,
- 23:12yeah,
- 23:12absolutely.
- 23:13Well,
- 23:13thank
- 23:13you
- 23:13so
- 23:13much
- 23:13for
- 23:14joining
- 23:14us,
- 23:14Carrie.
- 23:15It's
- 23:15been
- 23:15really
- 23:15a
- 23:15pleasure
- 23:16to
- 23:16chat
- 23:16about
- 23:17bird
- 23:17monogamy
- 23:18and
- 23:18the
- 23:18lack
- 23:19of
- 23:19monogamy
- 23:19and
- 23:19all
- 23:19the
- 23:20cool
- 23:20tools
- 23:20we're
- 23:20using
- 23:20to
- 23:21figure
- 23:21it
- 23:21out.
- 23:21So
- 23:21thanks
- 23:22for
- 23:22joining.
- 23:23Awesome.
- 23:23Thanks
- 23:23so
- 23:24much
- 23:24for
- 23:24having
- 23:24me.
- 23:28Okay,
- 23:28so
- 23:28birds
- 23:28are
- 23:29dinosaurs,
- 23:29and
- 23:30around
- 23:30here
- 23:30we
- 23:30like
- 23:31our
- 23:31snacks.
- 23:31So
- 23:32we
- 23:32end
- 23:32every
- 23:32episode
- 23:33of
- 23:33the
- 23:33podcast
- 23:33with
- 23:34what
- 23:34we
- 23:34call
- 23:34the
- 23:35Dinosaur
- 23:35nugget.
- 23:36Today's
- 23:37dinosaur
- 23:37nugget
- 23:38is
- 23:38that
- 23:38while
- 23:3890%
- 23:39of
- 23:39birds
- 23:39are
- 23:40socially
- 23:40monogamous,
- 23:41which
- 23:41means
- 23:41that
- 23:42a
- 23:42pair
- 23:42together
- 23:43raises
- 23:43a
- 23:43nest,
- 23:44very
- 23:45few
- 23:45of
- 23:45those
- 23:45socially
- 23:46monogamous
- 23:46birds
- 23:47are
- 23:47genetically
- 23:48monogamous.
- 23:48So
- 23:49in
- 23:49every
- 23:49one
- 23:49of
- 23:49those
- 23:49nests,
- 23:50you're
- 23:50likely
- 23:51to
- 23:51find
- 23:51individual
- 23:52chicks
- 23:52with
- 23:52a
- 23:53different
- 23:53father.
- 23:53So
- 23:54that's
- 23:54a
- 23:54wrap
- 23:54on.
- 23:54Okay,
- 23:55but
- 23:55is
- 23:55bird
- 23:55monogamy
- 23:56just
- 23:56pr?
- 23:57Thanks
- 23:57for
- 23:58listening
- 23:58or
- 23:59watching.
- 23:59Please,
- 23:59like,
- 24:00subscribe,
- 24:00leave
- 24:01a
- 24:01comment,
- 24:01and
- 24:02be
- 24:02sure
- 24:02to
- 24:02tune
- 24:02in
- 24:02next
- 24:03week
- 24:03for
- 24:03another
- 24:03episode.
- 24:08Okay?
- 24:09Okay.
- 24:10But
- 24:10Birds
- 24:11is
- 24:11hosted
- 24:11by
- 24:12Scott
- 24:12Taylor,
- 24:12with
- 24:13production
- 24:13and
- 24:13creative
- 24:14by
- 24:14Zach
- 24:14Karl.
- 24:18Echo.