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- 0:00Speaker 1: Across the country. Yesterday, thousands of Americans that you see
- 0:03Speaker 1: on your screen took to the streets to protest against
- 0:06Speaker 1: ICE and the Trump administration's harsh immigration crackdown. One of
- 0:10Speaker 1: the largest demonstrations was in Portland, Maine, where protesters gathered
- 0:15Speaker 1: in honor of twenty twenty five year old Johann Canetto,
- 0:19Speaker 1: the second immigrant killed in an ICE shooting in just
- 0:23Speaker 1: the past week. The demonstrations come as President Trump is
- 0:27Speaker 1: urging ICE to keep up aggressive traffic stop operations despite
- 0:31Speaker 1: the recent deadly shootings. At the same time, President Trump
- 0:35Speaker 1: spent his week focused on reviving election conspiracy theories.
- 0:39Speaker 2: His aim seems to be to lay.
- 0:41Speaker 1: The groundwork to challenge the midterm election results if Republicans lose.
- 0:46Speaker 1: But days after Trump's primetime address, which he promised would
- 0:50Speaker 1: present overwhelming evidence of widespread voters hard the response from
- 0:55Speaker 1: even much of his own party has been muted. Even
- 0:59Speaker 1: Fox Knew largely steered clear of the president's election claims,
- 1:03Speaker 1: a decision that has infuriated some of Trump's most loyal allies,
- 1:07Speaker 1: including former advisor Steve Bannon.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Fox News didn't cover any of that. As bad as
- 1:14Speaker 3: it was, Fox News didn't do anything on the look
- 1:17Speaker 3: the Murdochs or one hundred. They hate Trump, they hate Maga. Anybody.
- 1:21Speaker 3: If you watch Fox and support that crap, you are
- 1:23Speaker 3: part of the problem. They didn't do They had the
- 1:26Speaker 3: fanity last night was embarrassing. On what they did after
- 1:29Speaker 3: as they cut right away and went to the favorite topic,
- 1:31Speaker 3: bombing Iran. We got to bomb Iran.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Unbelievable joining us now, Angelo cotasan president of Media Matters,
- 1:42Speaker 1: thank you for getting up early and heading to the table.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Let's start right there. There was I mean, Fox News
- 1:49Speaker 1: has seven hundred and eighty seven million reasons not to
- 1:52Speaker 1: engage in more conspiracy theory lies. But on the larger
- 1:57Speaker 1: ecosystem on the right, how did this land? How much
- 2:01Speaker 1: were people actually talking about it?
- 2:02Speaker 2: So it's true about the foxing and we should make
- 2:04Speaker 2: it really explicit. I mean, after the speech ended, Brettbaar
- 2:07Speaker 2: said that Fox just can't confirm anything the President said.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Then they didn't talk about it in primetime. They didn't
- 2:13Speaker 2: talk about it at all the next day. In fact,
- 2:15Speaker 2: if you only watch Fox News, you think the big
- 2:18Speaker 2: speech this week was Marco Rubio, you wouldn't know anything
- 2:21Speaker 2: about Trump's speech. That's how much they ignored it. I
- 2:23Speaker 2: mean they went out of their way to ignore it,
- 2:25Speaker 2: and sometimes that's a way to help carry water. But
- 2:27Speaker 2: I think the larger message has been penetrated, this idea
- 2:30Speaker 2: that elections are to be doubted, and that gets to
- 2:32Speaker 2: how to play broadly, because the audience wasn't it's not
- 2:36Speaker 2: to convince America right, it is. Actually there were three
- 2:39Speaker 2: groups that he was speaking to. It was the operators,
- 2:41Speaker 2: like the Steve Bennons, It was the faithful, the people
- 2:44Speaker 2: that are really diehard election deniers that have been waiting
- 2:47Speaker 2: for him to make this a big thing and do something.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And then impatient people that they want something more substantial,
- 2:53Speaker 2: they want action like a national emergency or the Insurrection Act.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Those people are excited. The impatient people are still impatient.
- 3:00Speaker 2: But the rest of them got the message loud and clear,
- 3:02Speaker 2: which is that this is the premiers, this is the
- 3:04Speaker 2: starting gun. He just fired it, and they think they're
- 3:07Speaker 2: off to the races. So broadly speaking, it was a
- 3:09Speaker 2: total dut and they can be easily measured and disfected
- 3:12Speaker 2: from that perspective. But to the key audience that he
- 3:15Speaker 2: was speaking to, they're ready to go.
- 3:16Speaker 1: The people who might need to take action or whether
- 3:19Speaker 1: that's running action or rhetorical action from now that's right.
- 3:24Speaker 2: I mean they see it as that as this is
- 3:25Speaker 2: the moment to start to mobilize around not just you know,
- 3:29Speaker 2: local polling stations, but in particular the story that people
- 3:32Speaker 2: who should not be voting are going to be voting.
- 3:34Speaker 2: So anything and everything is on the table, which is
- 3:36Speaker 2: prepared for some type of armed presence at these polling stations,
- 3:39Speaker 2: to doing your own independent investigations to track down people
- 3:43Speaker 2: that shouldn't be voting. This was, for them, was the
- 3:45Speaker 2: starting gun.
- 3:47Speaker 4: His supporters were not disappointment.
- 3:48Speaker 2: They were not They were not disappointed.
- 3:51Speaker 5: A yeah, you mentioned three audiences. But before I get
- 3:57Speaker 5: give you my question, let's play the exchange that our
- 4:01Speaker 5: colleague Von Hilliard had.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursday night after.
- 4:04Speaker 5: This, you know what? You know what video I'm about
- 4:06Speaker 5: to show. If you don't know the video I'm about
- 4:09Speaker 5: to show, watch now, do.
- 4:12Speaker 2: You acknowledge that there were no votes changed in twenty twenty?
- 4:15Speaker 6: I'm all I can acknowledge is with the intelligence shows, right,
- 4:17Speaker 6: I only know the intelligence community has zero evidence that
- 4:20Speaker 6: someone has flipped that a foreign power flip they vote
- 4:23Speaker 6: in twenty twenty twenty two or twenty four, twenty twenty
- 4:25Speaker 6: election was in fact the results as we of the
- 4:29Speaker 6: American bot. I'm so researching, so let me let me
- 4:31Speaker 6: have this is the first one. There's no intelligence yet,
- 4:35Speaker 6: there's no intelligence at the election.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I would have said that truck with the president, that's now, Angela.
- 4:42Speaker 5: I wanted to show that because you mentioned the president
- 4:45Speaker 5: was talking to three audiences, but I wonder if he
- 4:51Speaker 5: if this was just one audience, but it was reversed.
- 4:55Speaker 5: And this is something that I think Eugene brought up yesterday,
- 4:59Speaker 5: that what if and I don't know if this was
- 5:01Speaker 5: actually on air or dirty commercial pride. I apologize, but
- 5:06Speaker 5: it had all the feel of his cabinet. These the
- 5:11Speaker 5: people around him just letting him do this just so
- 5:15Speaker 5: he could get it out of his system. And I
- 5:17Speaker 5: say that because we don't have that. We played the picture,
- 5:19Speaker 5: showed the picture yesterday. But it's the vice president, the
- 5:22Speaker 5: chief of Staff, the acting Attorney General, the FBI director,
- 5:27Speaker 5: the D and I acting D and I. They're all
- 5:30Speaker 5: in that room as he spouts all these falsehoods and
- 5:35Speaker 5: lies and relitigates the twenty twenty election. And that's why
- 5:38Speaker 5: when Fox News decided we're going to show it, but
- 5:42Speaker 5: we're not going to talk about it. Was this just
- 5:45Speaker 5: a let's make the big guy feel feel good about himself.
- 5:49Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I'm sure that's be's a part of it.
- 5:51Speaker 2: But what I think we can't discounter our a few things.
- 5:53Speaker 2: One that John Solomon guy, Yeah, he's bad news. Okay,
- 5:56Speaker 2: he's an harborager of bad news. And it's worth remembering,
- 5:59Speaker 2: I mean, especially in the context of that silly video,
- 6:01Speaker 2: is that he is largely responsible for Donald Trump's first impeachment.
- 6:05Speaker 2: He was the one that was pushing the Giuliani Ukraine
- 6:08Speaker 2: stuff that Trump sort of ran with. This guy has
- 6:10Speaker 2: a long track record. He is a sort of a
- 6:14Speaker 2: pied piper of conspiracy theories and narratives that Trump is
- 6:18Speaker 2: willing to run with. And the second thing is that
- 6:20Speaker 2: it gets to the point that you're talking about the
- 6:22Speaker 2: people around him. Let's talk about some of those people.
- 6:24Speaker 2: This week, JD Vance went on Joe Rogan's podcast and
- 6:27Speaker 2: said that Spencer Pratt is the legitimate mayor of Los Angeles,
- 6:30Speaker 2: that the election was stolen, so they may not want
- 6:33Speaker 2: to carry water for Venezuela or China. Sealing the election
- 6:37Speaker 2: or some kind of Italian satellites involved switching vogus. I mean,
- 6:41Speaker 2: this is not Maybe they don't want to carry water
- 6:42Speaker 2: for those stories, but they are willing to push the
- 6:45Speaker 2: idea that the election is being stone. They're willing to
- 6:47Speaker 2: push the predicate that something big is here and requires
- 6:51Speaker 2: increased action. And it's not just Vance. The people around
- 6:54Speaker 2: that are in key positions, like you know Heather Hunting,
- 6:58Speaker 2: who's DHS, who use he was an election denier that
- 7:01Speaker 2: now she's a government official. But my point is these
- 7:04Speaker 2: people don't need to storm the Capitol anymore. They were
- 7:07Speaker 2: given they were your badgist. They're part of the government.
- 7:09Speaker 2: So the audience isn't small, but the actors are significant.
- 7:12Speaker 4: There are a lot of election deniers all across the
- 7:14Speaker 4: Trump administration. Heather Honey is working, Yeah, Heather Honey is
- 7:17Speaker 4: working on election integrity within the DHS. John Soloman, the
- 7:21Speaker 4: former journalist who now works on the task force.
- 7:24Speaker 2: For the Election.
- 7:25Speaker 4: But I want to go back to what you were
- 7:27Speaker 4: saying that his supporters were not disappointed by this speech,
- 7:30Speaker 4: because I was talking to a former Trump administration official
- 7:33Speaker 4: who said that the present he created a base that
- 7:36Speaker 4: loves the guillotine. Yeah, that was what this former official said.
- 7:40Speaker 4: And so this official was essentially skeptical that his base
- 7:45Speaker 4: would be happy with this speech because there were no
- 7:48Speaker 4: charges that were brought as a result of it. So
- 7:51Speaker 4: do you think that, even though maybe in the immediate
- 7:53Speaker 4: they are pleased with what the president did, that if
- 7:57Speaker 4: they don't see any real action, they're going to not
- 8:01Speaker 4: turn out for public observation.
- 8:04Speaker 2: That that third category of the impatient, that's the largest audience,
- 8:07Speaker 2: they're done with this. They don't care about the details anymore.
- 8:10Speaker 2: They're sold. You don't need to sell them now. They
- 8:11Speaker 2: want they want charges, they want action. And it's worth
- 8:15Speaker 2: keeping in mind that this is not taking place in
- 8:17Speaker 2: a vacuum. That audience is already disappointed about all the
- 8:20Speaker 2: Epstein stuff.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 8:21Speaker 2: They're tired of them constantly doing this long con. Next week,
- 8:24Speaker 2: next week, we're going to do something and not getting
- 8:26Speaker 2: any action. And they have blood lust. They want they
- 8:30Speaker 2: have blood lust, And so you're right, there's very very
- 8:33Speaker 2: short shelf life here for him to actually take action.
- 8:35Speaker 2: And the singular action that they want is a national
- 8:39Speaker 2: emergency and a massive crackdown. And I think that's where
- 8:42Speaker 2: you see that tied in a little bit with the
- 8:43Speaker 2: ice actions this week. I think part of the reason
- 8:45Speaker 2: why he sort of overturned that that sort of pause
- 8:49Speaker 2: on these stop actions because he knows his audience is
- 8:52Speaker 2: they're impatient, they want something, and even though they're not
- 8:55Speaker 2: exactly together, they are a little bit connected. And so
- 8:58Speaker 2: that is going to be the real to term. It's
- 9:00Speaker 2: either going to be a total flop and he's going
- 9:02Speaker 2: to upset his audience even more, or it's going to
- 9:06Speaker 2: be that impatience is going to actually lead to acceleration
- 9:09Speaker 2: and increased activity.
- 9:10Speaker 5: Are they going to get what they want the impatient?
- 9:12Speaker 2: Do you think in the end? I do. I think
- 9:14Speaker 2: that they are going to go for a national emergency.
- 9:16Speaker 2: I think all the pieces are there, all the players
- 9:18Speaker 2: are there. And I think one of the things about
- 9:20Speaker 2: that came out of that haberm book about Vance is
- 9:22Speaker 2: I was struck by how many times Vance is the
- 9:24Speaker 2: first one in the room to say National Emergency Insurrection
- 9:28Speaker 2: Act the people. Any of the speed bumps of the
- 9:30Speaker 2: friction that would stop this is not And I think
- 9:32Speaker 2: from Trump's perspective, he has nothing to lose to go
- 9:35Speaker 2: for it is that he keeps pushing it. It's going
- 9:38Speaker 2: to prove that the thing he's saying, even if it
- 9:39Speaker 2: doesn't work out. When it's all over, he gets to
- 9:41Speaker 2: continue to attack the elections. And that's what they want,
- 9:44Speaker 2: right They want to undermine and continue to run confidence
- 9:47Speaker 2: in it so that they can actually break it.
- 10:01Speaker 5: Assass