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Cubs Trade for Edward Cabrera · The 3-0 Take

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10 gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk all
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things Major League Baseball. Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate
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Reyes. It all starts right now.
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Who Welcome back to the Three O Take presented by Schnooks
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Eatery. This episode 588, I'll be your
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host, Kyle Corwin. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate.
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Welcome, welcome back, welcome back.
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It's been 2 years since our last episode.
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Haven't changed a bit. Feels like a long time.
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I'm rusty. It's been a minute.
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Yeah, how are we doing I. Have a feeling corner?
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KC How are we? I've have a feeling this episode
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is going to go off the rails with the way that I.
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Couldn't be less locked in. Well, I'm glad you brought that
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up because I, you know, we're now in the new year 2026.
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Welcome. But I got to say, I, I have
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thoroughly impressed even myself with how much that I've stayed
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out, or I guess I should say how little I've been involved in and
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tuned into the rumor mill. I've made it, I've made a very
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intentional effort to to avoid it.
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And I tell you what it is paid off.
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It is paid dividends. Like I, I highly recommend,
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highly recommend if you have a chance to just well, yeah, I
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mean, at this point, most of you guys too far gone, but it
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starting in the winter, the offseason of 2026, this coming
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this coming offseason, go ahead and just get out in front of
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that. Just mentally prepare to not
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waste your time reading these contradicting reports that are
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just made-up and being pushed as leverage.
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Tell you what, it does wonders for your mentals and I.
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I couldn't be happier to be here to talk about things that have
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actually happened. All right.
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Good deal. This sounds like a guy.
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This sounds like a guy whose team has just continued to miss
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the mark, continued to miss the mark day after day.
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In fact, it's it's hard to miss a mark when you're not even
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you're not even shooting the shot They're.
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They're coming for me. What is that?
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A clown car? What?
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What is that? Just an ambulance.
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Oh man, they got. They've got to.
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Go they're. Going at it.
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They've got the Yankees 2026 postseason chances in in the.
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Back please move the manipulator is not working.
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Call the doctor. Let them know we're coming.
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Oh, it's a Rockies fan just celebrating the Michael Lorenzen
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Sunday. Yeah, that's.
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That's sneak that in there, that's what.
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Really had me thinking that this is just going to be sort of an
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off the rails episode. Like seconds before we hit their
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chord button. Nate goes, well, let's add that
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to the list of topics. And it's I'm like scrambling for
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my phone thinking it's like Bichette or Bregman.
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And he hits us with the Michael Lorenzen which.
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Who, by the way, no disrespect. Who, by the way, if you didn't
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know, where's Vans? They were made into spikes.
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Yeah. That's crazy.
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Crazy, right? Yeah.
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Fantastic. Yeah.
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Also, did you know that Todd Frazier played me baseball in
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New Jersey? Yes.
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Isn't that insane? Baseball knowledge, baby.
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Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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Speaking of baseball knowledge, let's get into what we know has
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happened thus far. That should be your new what's,
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what are the things that you do with the new year?
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What are they called resolutions?
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Yeah, that should be one of your resolutions is to limit the
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amount of Segways. I love a Segway.
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I'm such a sucker for Segways 40. 8 Segways per episode.
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Well, I'm already working on limiting my as it pertains to or
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whatever I say I'm working on. I'm working on cutting that
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back. Speaking of cutting back.
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Speaking of cutting back, the Marlins are really trimming
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down. No, Edward Cabrera is is on his
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way to Chicago. Not literally.
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I don't know where he's at at the current moment, but just for
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the for the first of the future, for the foreseeable future will
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be playing for the Cubs. I think what he's got three
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years, three years left under team control.
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Yeah, Under team control through 2028.
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Chicago or excuse me, Miami in return, getting a decent haul,
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getting some some prospects headlined by Owen.
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This is going to be an episode of of names that I'm not going
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to know how to pronounce, so I'm just going to go ahead and get
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out in front of that. Top outfield prospects Owen
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Casey Casey Casey. It's just Casey.
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Just Casey, it's CAISS i.e. How do you?
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Casey. How would you even say that?
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Yeah, Casey. I don't know if Josh is a guy
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that I can particularly trust with names because I think he,
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you said, didn't you pronounce it Nolan MacLean?
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He did. Oh, did I miss that?
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Did I? I think it's McClain.
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There's a McClain right down the road from where I'm at here.
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It's actually where I work and I don't know if Lea.
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N. I'm assuming it's the same, but
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it's if it is the same, it's McClain.
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He dropped to Noah Hiles earlier.
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Well, who's to say that sounds that sounds right?
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Probably. The only pronunciation that they
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have on baseball reference is Cowboy Otani.
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Cowboy Otani. Or McLean McLean.
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It's yeah. It's McLean.
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It's McLean. Speaking of McLean, McLean.
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I don't care about Mets so. Me neither.
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Shout out to the Mets. Speaking of the Mets, the
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Marlins 4 have 4 already have traded Edward Cabrera to the
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Cubs. This episode is going to be a a
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mess good for the Cub. Is anybody is anybody 'cause I
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was was is anybody else surprised that they actually
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pulled the trigger? Because I feel like Edward
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Cabrera has been on the block for since, frankly, before he
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was even in Major League Baseball.
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It's. Been a been a minute.
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He he picked up a baseball for the first time in his life and
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was already placed on the. Block, I feel like was the case
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placed, Yeah, good deal. I like it.
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I mean, I didn't he have didn't he have an injury at a certain,
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I don't know, last year, year before or something like that.
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He was like. Even banged up a couple times I
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think. Few.
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Times even. Really, really good.
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And then it's pretty injury prone, something I don't know.
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You want to talk about a a heartbreaker and fantasy.
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This is a guy that I held out so much hope for and I'm like, this
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is this dude is going to be the real deal from a fantasy
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perspective. I I can't speak to much beyond
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that, but I had I had high hopes for him and I just, I had to let
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him go. I said I've I've tried too too
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too much for too long with this guy and it just didn't paint out
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but. It's going to be neat, neat to
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see good depth for the, for the rotation for cabos, you know?
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So now they've got Cabrera, Imanaga, Tayon and Boyd.
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And Horton? Kate Horton, Yeah, it's like a
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rotation of fours. No disrespect.
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Yeah, I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it.
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My goodness. 4 starters. Tate Horton was the finalist for
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rookie of the year, right? Pretty sure.
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Whatever. Sounds like a four to Nate.
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Yeah, unreal. I mean, Cabrera's this year was
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Cabrera. This past year was Cabrera's
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first time over 100 innings. Career high. 1:37 There's a lot
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of injuries. That's what I'm saying man.
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The potential just never. Closer really was fulfilled.
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Am I crazy? Was it this past offseason or
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was it this past or excuse me not, I'll say the postseason.
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Was it this past postseason or two postseasons ago where
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Matthew Boyd really shined? Was that?
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I feel like it was 2 postseason ago at this point.
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Matthew Boyd is, I think he's a little underrated here.
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I thought last year was his first year as a cub.
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No, this year was this. Well, 2025 was.
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Yeah. Oh, so then it was it.
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It would have had to been 24. In 24, he was with Cleveland.
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Cleveland, eight games. Right.
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But remember they brought him back.
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Yeah, Yeah, They brought him back late and he, if assuming
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I'm remembering correctly, had he.
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I think he diced. Yeah, he he did.
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So I mean, it's I don't know if they're if they're seeing
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similar things under the hood at this point.
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But you know, I don't know if two games quantum all fours is
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fair. Two games for.
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Cleveland there 6 and 2/3 and five innings.
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Only gave up one run in that postseason.
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Yeah. Really.
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I mean was good. He was good for the Cubs in 25
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as well in the postseason, a Wild Card game and ADS game that
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were both. Maybe it wasn't this one then,
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Casey. No, the the Cleveland one was
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real, No. He was lights out.
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Yeah, yeah, because it I remember you're right.
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He he missed a lot of time and and then we're like, what what
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can you really expect from this? Then he she showed up.
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I mean, six games total, six games started, 7 total games for
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him because he pitched with Seattle for an out, so whatever.
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But 21 and 2/3, just four runs. He's a post season guyer I
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guess. Postseason legend Matthew Boyd,
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and you're calling him a four? He's a four.
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I mean, this is one of the all time greats we've ever seen in
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the postseason. Didn't Imonaga have like a huge
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fall off last year? Yeah.
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Well, what he, yeah, what he was doing wasn't sustainable.
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Yeah, he really had thought it. Was like a massive, yeah, little
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wet one. Yeah.
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It was walking up the stairs it. Was kind of it was one of those,
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but like I said, what he was doing wasn't sustainable.
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But if, if you can sort of if you can spread out the, the ask
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if you will amongst many guys and, and rather than putting it
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all one or two, hopefully will lighten a load for a guy like
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Imanaga who can then just go out there and try to pitch at a pace
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that's more sustainable. And I think they'll be better
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off for it. Very good defensive team.
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Yeah, they can cover for a lot of, I mean, Imanaga still had a
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373 last year, but his but his FIP was 486.
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So there's a lot of the defense helping him out.
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Yeah, yeah. Cool.
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Fair enough. Speaking of Speaking of defense,
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Okamoto to the Blue Jays, which by the way, I feel like I need.
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I mean, it's a great segue because I don't think they even
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really know where he's playing yet.
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So as a 1010 out of 10, five stars, if you will, segue.
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I need to preface this by saying some of the things I think we're
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going to touch on today are a little older in nature in terms
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of timeline, but we have not recorded since just like us,
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older in nature. Relax we have not recorded since
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the 18th of December. Hello.
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Wow that's right because we didn't I thought we might get a
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pre Christmas recording and I said you know what, enjoy the
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break boys, scrap. It.
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We'll see you on the other side. Scrap it.
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Which is a real shame. Just waste of breath the last
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two weeks done nothing, eating everything.
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Insight. It hasn't stopped.
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I thought it would. I thought it would come to an
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end if it hasn't. Yeah, I mean, what, what what
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was Monday the 5th? I feel like that's sort of like
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the collective understanding, like stopping point for just all
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the bad habits from over the over the holidays and you were
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just like, no, I'm going to double down.
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Actually, I had a gallon of chicken Alfredo tonight before
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we recorded. So I'm just, I'm just in
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shambles just reading. The only, the only baseball
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stuff I read is the lack of moves that the Yankees are
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doing. And then I get depressed and eat
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and here we are. That's a clip.
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Yeah, all of you idiots are tuned in to listen to me.
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Wow, Really, really warming up to the hearts of of our
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listeners. Yeah, Welcome to 2026.
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Speaking of 2026, that is the year that's Okamoto, Kazuma
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Okamoto. I said I struggle with names.
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I think I, I think I nailed that one.
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Kazuma Okamoto signed with the Blue Jays four year, $60 million
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deal. As I mentioned, it seems
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defensively at least he's a little bit up in the air.
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I saw today that's the was it the Cubs and the Red Sox.
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Again, I'm I'm staying out of the rumor mill, but as it, as it
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relates to the Blue Jays, there it is.
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As it as it pertains to the Blue Jays and the the gaps that they
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might need to fill, I think I saw that the Cubs and the Red
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Sox were the two teams that were actively pursuing both Alex
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Bregman and Boba Shet so that may, you know, shake things up
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defensively for them a little bit whether.
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What else does Okamoto play? Based on how that ends up. 2
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gold gloves at third base and one at first base.
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So like that. I mean, he's he's very capable
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defenseman. And I'm seeing as hockey or
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defense. No, it is it a surefire thing at
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this point that Boba shed is no longer a short stop like are are
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we just are we taking that to the bank?
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I. Think it depends on the team.
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Does it though because I'm. On who's telling you that?
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Well, it, it's his camp, right, That's coming out being like we
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can move. And when you, when you the
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second you come off of your, your natural position, I feel
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like you've lost all positional leverage.
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Yeah, probably. I don't know.
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I mean what it? I mean, he's not playing short
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in Boston if he ends up in Boston somehow.
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If we're talking Blue Jays, it feels like Okamoto like takes
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Bregman out of the hunt more than it takes Boba Shet out of
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the hunt in my mind. And then just run it back with
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him. And is it short and bichette at
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2nd? Yeah, I get.
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I was in my mind, I feel like I had kind of ruled him out of
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Toronto 'cause I I just feel like if something was going to
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happen there, it would have already happened.
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But that. But now I just feel like we're
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waiting out these other teams that are.
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Who? Bregman or Bichette?
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Bichette, sorry. So in my mind, Bichette's not
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even he wasn't even necessarily a factor in in Toronto, but may
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I mean, who's to say? So let me ask you this.
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You're making the call, you have Okamoto there.
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Would you still pursue Bichette as a second baseman and try to
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either move Clement or or keep him around?
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Or are you just going all in on Tucker?
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Because the chances are at this point, they're they got one
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more, they got one more sign. It's not Tucker and one of those
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infielders. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I have my thoughts about Kyle Tucker and I feel like
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we've shared those as his free agency has has gone on.
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But I feel like even still, I would rather have a guy like
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Kyle Tucker and then just plug the holes, have it be sort of a,
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a, what's the word, a platoon of sorts.
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If if need be on the infield, wherever you need to.
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Because I'd rather have, I'd rather have more of a more of a
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star that Tucker has has shown that he can be.
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Obviously at times, maybe not the entire time, but at times
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and then make it work elsewhere around the field rather than go
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with a guy who's already shown you defensive aggression is just
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not good defensively. And there's there would be a
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realistic chance that he wouldn't even be playing the
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position that he held it down for you for the time that he's
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been there. I just feel like that's a weird
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situation to put yourself in. So I'd rather just I don't know
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it. I'm not saying the it's bad
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blood in Toronto between Bichette and and the Blue Jays,
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but it just seems like with all the what like with the narrative
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that's been been going on, I just feel like Bichette's at
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this point as good as gone. So I'm just like, why, why even?
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And maybe they're not maybe they're not entertaining that
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option anymore. Maybe they've since moved on and
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maybe it's just the media that's hanging on to this as a as an
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option, but I don't know. I just see, I don't see him
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being a factor. I think for for them he's been a
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second base option the whole time because then he would just
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leave Clement at 3rd. In that case the arm is one of
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the problems. Then you don't want him at third
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either. I think it's.
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I think the signing of Okamoto because they they have said we
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want to use him as like a super utility, right?
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Like they they have come out and said that.
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I don't know. I think that with the
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combination of like what Ernie Clement did in the post season
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this last year, it's it's almost like he deserves that shot to
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play second every day. I think you can take whatever
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Jimenez provides with a bat because he's a wizard with the
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glove. Then you go after Kyle Tucker.
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Especially now that like there's rumors about maybe willingness
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to take a shorter high AAV deal. That's what I would go for.
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And it feels like a pushing chips in the middle of the table
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while everyone's in their prime without long term commitment to
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a guy that seems to have some paws around him in Tucker and
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they're. Pretty right-handed too.
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Yeah, yeah, you put him in the middle of that and.
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Trade Santander. Yeah, I think you would have to
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package something to get rid of Santander just because of
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whatever last year was Poop fest.
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I'm not. I'm not giving up.
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I'm not giving up on on Tony Taters.
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I'm not doing it. Yeah, it's got to be two
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straight years for me to think that it's all.
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Over yeah, I mean we we literally talked about it when
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he signed with them. If you go back and look the I
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think it was the three, the the previous three years combined.
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Did he have? No, I don't think it was the
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most, but it was like this. Was it the second or third most
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homers in all of baseball? And you're thinking like.
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Really, Anthony Santander is in this conversation.
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It's like he it wasn't, it wasn't a flash in the pan for
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him. So going back to Josh's point,
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yeah, going back to Josh's point, I'm going to need to see
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another down year to be like, OK, we need to have a different
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conversation. Well then I mean, who else?
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Like do they move our show then have George Springer play center
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every day? Like I don't, I don't know what.
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I still move. I still move him because I'd
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still pick Tucker over him. Sure I but I think he could
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still be a good play. I think he's AI think teams will
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bite on that. There will be teams that want
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that trade 'cause they're not ready to give up on him either.
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Yeah. But that was kind of a, that was
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an overpay of a contract. From a second right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or or take less of a return.
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Yeah, yeah. Either way, Blue Jays are in
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great shape. Whether I mean, sounds like
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they're getting one of these three.
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That's what it sounds like. Who my brain Tucker and who's
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the 3rd? Oh yeah, Tucker.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's AI mean Sage.
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I know we said what we said about Bichette, but like at the
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end of the day, that's still a good player to have in that
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lineup. So it's like that's a assuming
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that is true. Talk about a good place to be in
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addition to what you've already done.
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Like we can't lose sight of what they've already done this
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offseason. They I think I don't remember,
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Nate, if you if you said it to me just off air, just shooting
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the breeze. But you said something like the
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Blue Jays are just going to run this division for what seems to
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be the immediate future. I don't know how how sustainable
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it'll be, but like they're, they're the only team that's
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making I feel like a, a, a genuine effort to to really take
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strides talent wise. Well, especially because the AL
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was like already up for grabs in the 1st place coming into this
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Last Post season. Then you see him there like
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finally emerge and like become themselves the movie if you
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will. And now it's just like I I
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especially in the East. But I would say the rest of the
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AL was not holding a candle to what the Blue Jays are capable
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of doing. And the fact that they play the
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way they play, right, like, this isn't like a team that's like,
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oh, they just posted, you know, they broke the record for most
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team home runs. And they also did a bunch of
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strikeouts. But we're not worried about that
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because they were able to score runs.
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No, this is a team that scores runs.
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They don't strike out. They double down on their
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pitching depth and are probably going to be better defensively
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this year than they were last year.
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And it's like, I don't they're going to, they're getting a lot
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better. That I don't think last year was
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a fluke, and obviously their organization doesn't either.
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I said it last October, I'll say it again.
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Very much enjoyed watching that brand of baseball at that.
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Stage so fun to watch. Like that's real baseball.
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Yeah. And just the like we talked
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about the Rogers Center, the environment, all that stuff.
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And I know that gets cliche after a while, like, oh, like
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the the the atmosphere and this, that the third.
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But it's like if you have all of these moving these, these these
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pieces of the equation moving in the same direction.
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The the fan energy, the the buy in from from the fans, the buy
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in from the front office, the talent acquisition, the the
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right contract extensions being made.
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Think things like that. You can't help but as a fan of
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other teams, be jealous of of. I mean, I'm not, I'm not putting
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them in the same boat as the Dodgers, obviously, but it's the
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same thing. It's the same conversation over
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there. It's like we can sit here and
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talk about like, when is enough enough?
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And I'm not saying the Blue Jays are even at that point yet, but
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it's like we got to stop pointing fingers at teams like
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this and and really just get to a point where we're more so
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appreciating that these types of efforts are being made.
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And it's like like we talked about the brand of baseball that
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they play in particular is is fun to watch.
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Speaking of being fun to watch the actually, no, that's for a
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later segue. So I'll, I'll put that back in
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the pocket. Holster that thing.
24:26
Yeah, so retroactively. So I'm I'm back at six Tatsuya
24:34
eBay. How'd I do?
24:40
There's AB, there's AB he's. Got a cold, he said.
24:44
E my he just has a cold. I don't have a cold, did I?
24:47
Oh, did it sound like I said E by?
24:48
Yeah. Oh my bad.
24:50
No, I said Oh my bad. I said Tatsuya E my.
24:56
Yeah, there we. Go OK, you're like looking at me
25:00
like there's ABI didn't say B to the Astros three-year deal opt
25:07
outs after the 1st 2:00 getting comps already to actually it was
25:17
Boris, I think was making the comps comparing him to Yamamoto.
25:21
Yeah, it's a good name to compare him to.
25:25
I mean, Bob Gibson, Pedro Martinez, I mean, he's right
25:30
there. Yeah.
25:31
Right, although I do have a question.
25:33
Josh in the corner, can you do some research for me?
25:35
Yeah, he which I got to find the quote.
25:42
He said something along the lines of like he's he's
25:47
basically done. Oh, he said certainly he's done
25:53
everything Yamamoto's done. I didn't get the full context
25:56
and I know I I harp on getting context before you you jump to
26:00
conclusions, but more so less less accusatory here and more
26:05
just curious what what does his resume look like from from over
26:13
there? I think I saw I saw something on
26:16
MLB Network that he lined up with pretty much all of the
26:21
other Japanese pitchers that have come over recently.
26:24
Like they were all hovering around 150 a 160 innings and
26:29
they are all sub three Eras. Like he fits right in with all
26:34
the other names. No, no, no.
26:36
Well, yeah, I, I, I heard that, but I'm saying more so in terms
26:41
in terms of like the resume, the accolades, because the way when
26:44
I read that Boris quote, that's how I interpreted it, Like I
26:46
didn't know if he was if we're comparing accolades here,
26:49
because the Yamamoto, if I'm not mistaken, he won.
26:53
He he won like multiple Japanese Saiyoung's isn't that is not the
26:58
case. Yeah, but.
27:00
Ended up winning like their equivalent of that like 3 times
27:04
or something or am I crazy? If this graphic is right, I'm
27:07
looking at and I I mean, I haven't, I have Emi's stuff
27:10
right here. MVP too, Yamamoto.
27:14
Yamamoto yeah, he won 3. MVPS 3.
27:21
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
27:22
It's like they're. Yeah.
27:24
Four time ERA champion, three time strikeout leader, 3 Gold
27:29
Gloves, 5 All Stars, 3 All Stars for EMI and we're done.
27:36
OK, with none of those other things.
27:38
That's, that's what I'm thinking of.
27:41
It's it's often called Japan. Cy Young, Yeah.
27:43
OK, that's multiple times for Yamamoto, none for EMI.
27:48
Some of the innings and some of the stuff like that is fine, but
27:51
like Yamamoto's ERA was 182, Emi's is 3/15.
27:57
But I mean, the strikeouts are there, but there's less
27:59
strikeouts and more innings. No, no, he doesn't compare.
28:04
Yeah. None of these numbers are really
28:07
dead. Too And it and I think that's
28:09
probably why the Astros were able to win this as much as I
28:14
say win this bid, it's like, I don't know.
28:18
I think he's probably solid, but I don't know.
28:24
The Astros also don't have a left-handed pitcher.
28:26
Did you see that? Do they have their potential
28:30
starters? With the Crawford boxes there,
28:33
it's probably. Fun.
28:33
No lefties, Pretty wild. It's not like right fields of
28:39
Polo Grounds, but that's true. That's true.
28:43
So just in fairness though, well to be.
28:45
Fair. The corners of the the the
28:47
corners of Polo Grounds are in fact short.
28:49
But I I get what I get what you're saying it.
28:51
Actually is kind. Of like the Polo Grounds.
28:53
Yeah, yeah, I get I get what you're saying.
28:54
It's a. Lot, yeah.
28:55
To be fair though, the numbers like yes, they don't compare to
28:58
Yamamoto, but they are good. In the last five years, he's
29:02
pitched around 160 to 173 innings in each of those years.
29:06
And those, ER, as are are low. They're all sub 3 -, 2021 which
29:11
was A320 and this past year was a 192 ERA.
29:15
Like it's still very good numbers.
29:17
Yeah, he's definitely going to be good.
29:18
Does this take the Astros out of the, I mean, they're officially
29:21
done with Framber, right? Like, Oh yeah, that's that was
29:25
already pretty soiled. I mean, I would be too bit
29:28
honest with you not to like harp so much on that incident, but
29:32
like I just, it's, it's hard not to.
29:35
I just don't know how. I don't.
29:36
Know who was the guy that freaking threw his glove over
29:39
the net into the fans and still got a job?
29:42
Then? A couple.
29:43
Weeks later that you. Said, oh, that was wasn't that
29:45
Jorge Lopez? Yeah, you're like, this guy's
29:48
never going to see a Major League mountain.
29:49
I said he will be signed by next week and I think The Who the.
29:56
Did it go? Was it the angels?
29:57
I thought it was the Orioles. Did he go back to the Orioles
30:01
'cause he was? I think he was with him prior
30:03
to. Maybe.
30:03
Yeah, he was probably with him prior to.
30:06
That. Projected rotation in Houston.
30:08
Nate though is, I mean, it's possibly a six man rotation.
30:12
Yeah. And they've talked about that a
30:13
little bit. Hunter Brown at the top,
30:15
Christian, Javier Emai, Lance Mccullers, Mike Burroughs and
30:19
Ryan Weiss, who just came over from the KB.
30:20
OI think there's arms there? Doing that, I think there's a
30:23
lot of teams that are doing that.
30:25
Joel Sherman was on LV Network the other day talking about how
30:28
it's it's going to start affecting like overall numbers
30:31
down the road with the standard that's going to be of six man
30:37
rotations and it's this like floating six man.
30:40
It's maybe not every 6th spot, but it's, you know, definitely
30:47
eating up total innings across the across the board.
30:51
And if that means guys can go longer in games and if that
30:54
means that we can save bullpens and kind of get back to normal
30:58
baseball, I'm all for it. If it means less wear and tear
31:01
on starters but they can, you know, go deeper in their
31:05
specific games or just get extra days off, sure, I'll take it.
31:10
But I bet Hunter Brown goes every five days.
31:14
Deservedly so, kids. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a big hunter
31:17
brown guy. I'm also a big, I'm a big Peter
31:20
guy. Yeah, you are.
31:21
Yeah. Is Lance Mccullers is is he
31:24
still floating around with that? I keep saying.
31:27
Over it, I could not be more over Lance Mccullers, no
31:30
disrespect, but like, I mean some how long do we ride this
31:35
out like entertaining this is like a legitimate rotation
31:38
option. I think he's going to be one of
31:40
those weird guys. You just, you look at him, he's
31:42
still probably got like two or three years left to control.
31:45
But it just feels like this has been the story every year.
31:50
I don't know. They're in a.
31:51
Weird. 10 years of it's 10 years of service time.
31:54
Yeah, OK. But.
31:56
Yeah, he's been in a. Weird spot, dude.
31:57
Because like they were they were talking about because they
32:02
brought Correa back, who now has to play third.
32:05
He's not going to play short. And then like, what do you do
32:08
with with you have Christian Walker, you have Esock Pereides,
32:12
and then you have Altuve moving back to 2nd.
32:17
So you're like, that's locked down.
32:18
The infield's locked down. What?
32:21
And you you're going to have to DH.
32:23
You're Don. So that weird move where they
32:25
went and got Esau Pereiris is now like, put them in a little
32:29
bit of a corner and. I thought he was going to get
32:32
flipped shortly after they they. He's going to have to be Yeah.
32:35
I mean, he's. They got to move now.
32:37
It's you aren't going to spend that money and and effort on
32:40
Christian Walker and not let him play every day and then you
32:43
don't want new or Don playing in left field very often.
32:46
Just odd. They're they've been going about
32:48
things a little bit differently, but this is a good signing I
32:50
guess. Speaking of spending money on
32:52
the infield, the White Sox have added Munitaka Murakami.
32:59
Nice, thank you. 2 year. This was just a Japanese
33:03
episode. It, it really is episode 588,
33:08
the Japanese episode. This is definitely one of the,
33:11
the more, I guess you could say outdated, but just wanted to
33:13
check the box and add to the theme, Nate, as you alluded to,
33:16
of just these Japanese names coming off the board, 2 year,
33:21
$34 million deal. I don't know this.
33:28
Yeah, this was one of those ones where when the when the news
33:31
dropped, I think everybody collectively just looked around
33:33
at each other and asked why, Because what else would you ask?
33:40
Wasn't there like the weird like random second the free agency
33:47
kind of opened up and like postseason ended.
33:49
All of a sudden he went from like, oh, let's go get a guy who
33:53
hit almost thirty home runs in like 60 games last year to like,
33:59
oh, he has massive strikeout problems and then interest just
34:02
like nosedived. And then now the White Sox hit
34:07
him. But it was, it was a very
34:08
strange couple weeks. Around.
34:10
You were talking about him. Yeah.
34:12
Oh yeah. Like around I should say.
34:14
Like, I don't, it was just a weird turn of events that that
34:18
was strange. I kind of like it for him.
34:22
Like name a better transition when you're changing countries
34:26
and leagues where you're just like expectations.
34:29
Chicago's awesome, first of all. So like, you get that cool big
34:32
city American feel and then you get this like, well, there's no
34:36
pressure. I can come in and figure this
34:39
league out and run it back in a couple years and get paid again.
34:45
Still in 28. Yeah.
34:48
He would he would re enter free agency at 27. 27 Well, he.
34:53
OK, bang. Maybe it would be like.
34:56
He'll be 20, yeah. He'll be 20-6, yeah, in
34:59
February. So it'd be for his age 28
35:02
season. Perfect.
35:03
Smart. Yeah, like there's literally no
35:05
pressure. You're definitely going to play
35:07
every day. There's no expectations.
35:10
Just come figure this league out.
35:14
And look, I, you know, I, every year that passes, I try to, I
35:20
try to be, I try to fight the urge of just being an old man
35:25
yelling at the clouds, even though I know that's inevitably
35:27
where I'm headed. But I try to, I try to fight
35:29
that as best I can and try to be a little more optimistic each
35:33
year. And I'm not saying that the
35:36
White Sox are going to do anything of note, but I, I do
35:39
like a, a good win for a club like the White Sox every now and
35:44
then just to, just to know that, hey, you're, you're still alive,
35:48
you're still kicking, you're still making an effort, you're
35:52
still spending a little bit of money.
35:54
Also, move him. Move him next year if he has one
35:58
good year, move him and get a nice return on what was it, 17
36:04
AAV? Yeah, 234.
36:07
Yeah, dude, smart. Like, why not?
36:11
Like, no idea that they would have ever been in the running
36:15
for any of these free agent names.
36:17
They just kind of snuck in. Good for them.
36:26
Speaking of good for them, good for Tyler Soderstrom, 8 or
36:30
excuse me, 7 years, $86 million deal, the largest contract in
36:36
franchise history for the Nameless Athletics, which we'll
36:41
get into that in just a second. How do we feel about the?
36:45
How do we feel about the the deal?
36:47
Milaki, good deal. I like their core.
36:51
Yeah, I was going to say, you talk about a team that's it's
36:54
headed in the right direction. I feel like the, you know, we,
36:57
we joke. Well, you joke.
36:58
I hey, I was in there. This every time you don't got to
37:02
tear me down to build up your fandom, no.
37:05
You were tearing them down. I was in the A's corner.
37:09
I. No, no, no, I quite literally
37:15
No, no, no. Standby.
37:17
No, no falsified reports. Whatever receipts you're looking
37:23
through. Not BeenVerified.
37:25
I'm sorry, who does that say? I, I have, I'm, I'm hard of
37:33
seeing right now, but I believe that says that I picked the A's
37:39
to make the postseason last year.
37:41
Granted, just 'cause I didn't says that I can't like their
37:44
core get out of my face. No, but don't act like you're
37:47
you're a, you're a day 1A's guy like me.
37:50
Yeah, yeah, you're day one 'cause you were just feeling
37:54
yourself on the Hot Takes episode and slid them into the
37:57
wild card. Get out of here.
38:00
They're they're they're episodes of this podcast where I am
38:05
wearing athletic gear. Can you say the same?
38:09
No, Yeah, yeah. Where?
38:12
Is that gear And why? Why was I wearing that gear,
38:15
Nate? Because I bet, because I bet in
38:18
favor of the athletics. And you know why that is?
38:21
Because I'm an athletics guy. Yeah, Where's the visor by the
38:24
way? It's.
38:25
They were only 18 years back. They only get 800 and 807.
38:34
How did how did that stack up against the Pittsburgh Pirates?
38:37
They're in a different league. So no disrespect, no disrespect,
38:41
no, but this, this Soderstrom deal, I, I'm, I'm with you, I I
38:45
like their core and you know, as much as much negative press as
38:49
they've been involved in the last multiple years at this
38:54
point. Yeah.
38:57
Some of this stuff is hard to deny.
38:58
Well, sure. But like some of the some of the
39:01
the decisions that are being made there are hard to deny that
39:04
that they're making the team better.
39:07
Yeah. I mean, they've tanked long
39:09
enough and they've gotten some good dudes in the organization.
39:15
Flip enough guys and that's that.
39:17
I think that's what this says. Is that right?
39:19
Like, you know, you see, like the Matt Olson's and the Matt
39:22
Chapmans and all these names that come through and you're
39:25
like, oh, I hope that they commit and they never do.
39:28
And now look at them right like they're finally starting to
39:33
commit to some names and names that are promising.
39:38
Speaking of names, the the the Oakland, the Sacramento A's, or
39:43
or really just the Athletics are struggling to find a name
39:49
because the United States Patent and Trademark Office denied the
39:53
Las Vegas Athletics submission as well as the Vegas Athletics
39:59
submission. Yeah, you hear why?
40:04
Because it was too like basic, too vague, too general.
40:11
No, I think it's because of a dive bar.
40:14
I keep seeing this thing that's been popping up of this dive
40:18
bar, that's Las Las Vegas Athletics dive bar and they like
40:26
trademarked it or something. And I don't know if it's real or
40:31
not. Maybe I'm just getting MLB fast.
40:34
Yeah, you've been. This is not the first time
40:36
tonight that you've you've thrown out a.
40:39
Easy at these allegations. Man, well, you're just you'd,
40:43
you'd, you're falling victim to the, the fake news.
40:49
What was it? Was it before we started
40:51
recording or? After the answer is nothing, I
40:54
fall for nothing. Josh, help me out, help me out.
40:57
What was the thing that he just threw out there I had to Fact
40:59
Check him on? I don't remember.
41:03
Come on man, don't let me down. I remember he said the thing
41:06
about the vans and I jumped in all excited, and then he was
41:09
like, yeah, we all know. No, that wasn't it.
41:11
Oh, I'll tell you what, it was not baseball related.
41:16
He we were doing some bonus content earlier and we're talk
41:20
we're on the topic of music. It was a change up more to come
41:23
on that by the way, we're doing a change up and he goes, did you
41:28
see that MTV is shutting down? And I said no, because it's a
41:32
hoax. I saw that the hoax I saw the
41:35
MTV shut down was a hoax. I saw that.
41:37
But I never saw anything that confirm MTV was shut down.
41:40
So. Pretty big.
41:41
It's a pretty big hoax, man. I don't think a lot of people
41:44
fell for that. He's, he's told me, he's told me
41:47
that MTV has shut down and that. Stay on track, guy.
41:52
The athletics I I was in the middle of looking that up.
41:57
Josh in the corner, have you been?
41:59
Finding anything I see it's too generic and geographically
42:04
descriptive, but it does say that it's potentially confusing
42:08
them with other local sports businesses.
42:10
I don't see what those I'm trying to find what those
42:13
businesses are to see if it. Look.
42:16
Lines up their. Cider 11 hours ago A's fan group
42:22
A's holy pop ups A's fan group Last dive bar beats team to Las
42:28
Vegas Athletics trademark There's a whole article on it on
42:35
a very trusted source cover Evan Altman over at Cubs Insider.
42:41
I don't trust anything comes from the Cubs.
42:43
Oh, I see. I see what you're looking at,
42:45
Evan. Yeah.
42:46
The last dive bar, that's like a whole big thing out there in
42:48
Oakland. Like they were.
42:50
They're a huge part of the whole like, keep the team in Oakland
42:54
kind of thing. And they have it trademarked.
42:57
I don't I don't know what they they applied for the rights too.
43:01
Vague. I don't understand why it's too.
43:03
Vague. They applied for the rights in
43:05
2024. Yeah, How that's a that's a
43:07
whole thing. How how can you say that Las
43:09
Vegas athletics is too vague? But they're the athletics quite
43:12
literally have existed right since the Philadelphia days.
43:18
Yeah, Kansas City, Philadelphia, like a long time.
43:21
I mean, what who who died and made Las Vegas king?
43:26
Yeah, yeah. I don't know, so let's have some
43:31
fun. What should we name them?
43:33
Oh, I saw somebody which they would never do this because it's
43:37
it. It reeks of Devil Rays to me,
43:40
which wouldn't fly. But I saw somebody thrown out
43:44
there like the Sin City Athletics, which again, they
43:48
wouldn't do. But like that is a workaround.
43:51
Yeah. Didn't it have something to do
43:56
with the fact that they were trying to simultaneously
43:59
copyright Las Vegas and Vegas? They wanted they wanted both of
44:03
them. Not not one or the other, but
44:06
both. I don't know, but if I had to
44:08
choose, Vegas Athletic sounds way better by the way.
44:12
Vegas A's. Vegas A's, Yeah, Vegas A's.
44:15
It's nice. That's that rolls off nice.
44:17
Yeah, it's. Nice.
44:19
Tell me what you think about this.
44:21
I saw a take today where it said it's unbelievably lame when
44:26
teams move cities but keep their name.
44:29
How do we feel about that? I agree.
44:31
If you're going to rebrand, rebrand, you know.
44:34
If you're going to relocate, relocate.
44:36
If you're going to rebrand, rebrand.
44:38
Yeah, I mean, the Dodgers did it.
44:40
So that was the Giants. Yeah, Then it was it, would
44:44
they? That's what they were doing.
44:45
And the fact that the athletics have done it a couple times, I
44:48
think it does make sense to keep that going.
44:50
But yeah, I don't, I don't. That's a fine take.
44:56
Yeah, just curious. Maybe just go with like since
44:59
they have an elephant, just pick something like that.
45:02
Go go like lean into the elephant.
45:04
I don't know what that is. I.
45:07
Don't know the Vegas slot machines?
45:13
I mean, they're, I mean, there's a, there's an endless amount of
45:17
names you could roll with if you wanted to lean into that.
45:19
I mean, it's kind of it's a cop out, but I mean, you are there,
45:22
you're going to be there presumably.
45:24
Spades. That's kind of cool.
45:26
I like that. Yeah, that'd be.
45:30
I like that. So long as they don't just use
45:34
like the baseball club. Yeah, don't do.
45:38
That I lean into that put the put the club up there on the on
45:41
the logo. Oh.
45:42
Like the club, Like the cards. Yeah.
45:45
Oh, sorry, that's what I thought you were saying was that one is
45:47
that you were you were just saying like watch the generic
45:50
club. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:52
I was going. I thought you were talking
45:53
cards. I'm like it's Nah, it couldn't
45:55
be the worst options. Yeah, let's.
45:57
Go Redskins. True.
45:58
However, the Vegas the which I know I I already know what
46:03
nature's response this is going to be, but the women's
46:06
basketball team out there, they're the aces.
46:09
So maybe they wouldn't want to lean into the cards angle.
46:13
Yeah, how about the flops? Speaking of flops, man.
46:21
We're out of, we're out of round.
46:22
Number. I think we skipped 9.
46:23
I don't think I did 9. I rounded.
46:26
Up. Speaking of flops, not a flop.
46:31
Our. Sweet young Prince committing to
46:34
Team USA rounding that line up out it's been.
46:37
Lord, this has been a while. It has been a while.
46:40
It's been a minute since we recorded, but I mean, I wasn't
46:44
going to record for the first time since what?
46:47
What did I say the 18th and not talk about this?
46:50
Last year. I couldn't be more, more
46:58
thrilled. I, I'm, I'm ecstatic.
47:04
I I even shed a tear when I saw the news.
47:07
I'm sure you did. It also happened to be
47:10
particularly windy and cold that day, so I think that was playing
47:13
into it 'cause I was outside walking the dog.
47:16
But tears were tears were shed. Tears were shed, no.
47:23
Perfect. It's way better than Peter,
47:25
that's for sure. Speaking of of getting your
47:29
thoughts on takes another. Now it's 10.
47:32
Another take I saw today was it's a shame that some of these
47:40
guys didn't commit when they would have more directly
47:45
improved the team. In other words, some of the the
47:49
the take was so I think it was specifically in response to
47:53
Harper, but I think it was a more general comment, general
47:56
comment that I think it was. Too many fart sounds this
48:01
episode. It was a more broad discussion
48:04
of like these guys wait until they're maybe on the decline a
48:08
little bit, I mean. I get what you're.
48:11
Saying is that like, is that reasonable though?
48:14
I mean, if if that is in fact the case for some of these guys
48:17
like is that are like, are we? I don't know, because I'm seeing
48:22
what, what a guy like Paul Skeens is doing.
48:24
And granted, he's not, he's not going to be going out there
48:26
every single day like like a position player would
48:29
necessarily, but. I think that was the case.
48:34
You definitely could argue that for like the last year's pitch
48:37
or the last WBC's pitchers, but I think this year is just
48:42
different, bro. It feels, it feels new.
48:44
IT feels different. Like Bobby Witt's clearly in his
48:47
prime. You could say that he was just
48:49
kind of entering the scene last time.
48:51
He didn't even play full time. Trey Turner got most of the
48:54
spotlight. But like Gunner, I mean, Tarek
48:58
Schuble, you got Corbin Carroll, PCA, like we're stacked.
49:03
We're freaking. Stack.
49:07
Yeah, we got names that we're forgetting that are in here and
49:11
I'm all for it. I think this is if anything it's
49:14
more prime heavy than not you. Completely omit a judge, by the
49:18
way. Prime don't even need to mention
49:23
him, but I was saying names are just we've you know, that are
49:27
young judge is, you know, 3334 and it's like yeah, that's just
49:36
kind of like Schwarber. It's like a late bloomer.
49:39
You're still in your prime kind of thing.
49:41
I think that Bryce is the only one that's like somewhat like on
49:45
the back half as as far as his performance.
49:48
Don't say that, man. Don't say that you're going to
49:50
make me emotional, make me emotional.
49:53
Just let me know when the we have.
49:54
Oh cow. Duh.
49:56
Callie and Will Smith. Good night bro.
49:59
This thing is done. Get me to Houston.
50:03
Let me know. Let me know when the Harper
50:06
jersey drops. I'm sure they're already
50:08
cranking it out over there in China, so I'll just pause.
50:12
Paw, what are you talking about? That's just that's Jersey facts.
50:17
Sorry, you said cranking it out. What are where?
50:21
Where can you get these jerseys beforehand?
50:23
Can you or is it only on? Because I'll have to look
50:26
around. I haven't, Admittedly have not.
50:28
Checked around. I'm not waiting around on your
50:30
like your weird little back alley eBay jersey that takes six
50:35
months to show up. I mean something before.
50:38
Well, do you want quality or not?
50:40
Because if you don't, if you don't care, then go over to go
50:43
over to fanatics. No disrespect, but like you just
50:47
want to talk about homemade. She's going.
50:48
To ask my aunt that she's a master at sewing, just say.
50:52
Nate, make me a jersey I'm bringing, I will bring to to
50:56
Houston these quote UN quote back alley jerseys and somebody.
51:01
No, no, no, I've already I'm talking about ones I already
51:04
have. Like I'm like a Bobby Witt uni
51:06
and stuff like that. Yeah, and, and we'll find a
51:09
Fanatics jersey. You go ahead and and let me know
51:13
what your thoughts are because I'm I'm pretty sure I know what
51:16
the answer is going to be. Yours was made in some Joann
51:20
fabrics in China. Well, I'll tell you what, that
51:24
Chinese Joann Fabrics knows what they're doing.
51:27
I can't say the same for whatever they're doing over here
51:30
because they it's not on the even remotely the same level.
51:35
Any who's well on that note, I I was going to save it for the
51:39
end, but WBC trip has officially been booked.
51:44
So we will be there in in Houston and a nice little
51:48
addition to the mix is that we're going to be bringing along
51:51
some of the fantasy league, including Josh in the corner.
51:54
It's crazy dude. Josh in the corner will be
51:56
there. It's.
51:57
Going to be nice. So we'll have a, have a little,
52:00
we'll have a sizable group down there, which will be fun and
52:05
we'll be there for, well, I think a, a good bit of us will
52:09
be there for all three. Nate and I, I know for sure
52:11
we'll be there for the first three games.
52:12
We're not sticking around for the Italy game.
52:15
Yeah, we got a life, people. We well.
52:17
It'll be it'll be locked up by then.
52:19
It'll be locked up and you will see.
52:22
Clay Holmes can pitch that one. Cal Raleigh will be in Center
52:25
for that game. So I'm not concerned.
52:30
I am not concerned, although I got to say last pool play out in
52:35
Phoenix, did it? Did it not come down to the last
52:38
day? It got hairy.
52:39
It got hairy. Cause did we play?
52:41
Did we play Canada the last game?
52:44
Yeah, I think 'cause the only change was.
52:49
Or did they clinch it the night before the last game?
52:52
I think we beat. It did get hairy 'cause we lost
52:56
to Venezuela, we lost in Mexico, yeah.
53:02
Beat Canada, beat Great Britain. I, I feel like Canada was the
53:06
last game, but yeah, it did get a little hairy.
53:08
So I granted it was a different team, but this team?
53:11
Also, I think Canada is better than, I mean like no disrespect,
53:16
but who's coming from Brazil? I haven't seen a single name
53:19
commit to that team. They're rolling out janitors.
53:22
I mean, Italy, they're, I don't know.
53:24
I don't know what Italy is really.
53:26
Actually, they got Pasquantino. That he's he's trying to recruit
53:31
Roman Anthony. Busy.
53:34
Which would be a huge addition for them.
53:37
Caglione Caglione on that team too.
53:40
Does he commit to that? I think Rizzo's playing, too.
53:42
How many first baseman do they need?
53:44
I think Rizzo. 'S Rizzo's playing.
53:46
Yeah, I think Rizzo's playing. Hold on.
53:48
I think I saw that. Why do I feel like you're right
53:53
about WZC? Did he commit?
54:01
No, he. O'Neill Tyler O'Neill.
54:07
Oh yeah, sure. Kansas City.
54:09
Jack Caglione officially committed to represent Italy in
54:12
the 06/20/26 WBC. Wow.
54:17
How about that? How about that?
54:21
OK. Ears hurt.
54:30
We'll warn these headphones in a while.
54:33
Speaking of headphones, put those headphones on folks and
54:37
and lock in for. Murray's Question of the Week.
54:43
Murray's Question of the Week is What is 1 discontinued item you
54:51
wish you could bring back? I've really struggled here.
54:57
Do you have? Did you have one that
54:59
immediately came to? Mind, I sent this to you guys
55:01
ahead of time knowing that it was going to be a tough one,
55:03
yeah. I like that, by the way.
55:06
I like knowing ahead of time and getting a chance to.
55:08
I can, yeah. I'll I'll keep in mind, no
55:11
guarantees, but I'll do what I can.
55:13
I have two. What do you got?
55:15
I don't want to start JB. You go first.
55:16
Don't even dare say dunk A ruse because one that would well, it
55:23
would be mine. But apparently they're still.
55:26
Yeah, but they, I don't know. They don't feel like they're
55:29
here. They're just, I don't feel like
55:31
they're, they're mainstream. You know, one of those that came
55:33
to mind, but like, I had to look it up and they're still around.
55:35
There's toaster strudels. I was like.
55:38
They're still kicking. They're still rolling out there.
55:40
I mean, they're people are still consuming.
55:43
I haven't in a while but I I might stop at the store way
55:47
home. Nah, you'll find out that
55:50
they're not the same, probably. Yeah, dude, that's that's been
55:53
the most disheartening aspect of being an adult is just going
55:56
back to things that you're like, oh, this is fantastic, but.
56:00
Nostalgia is when you have free. Will and you go and pull that
56:03
trigger and you're like, it's awesome.
56:06
It's fair. So we have a we have a running
56:08
joke that anything I love will go away.
56:12
So my list is long, OK, But I have one thing that I know for
56:17
sure that I could bring up every time and that is Serge.
56:22
Oh, what is? Hey, look at that.
56:25
So I have a Serge Funko because Serge was it.
56:30
Man, that was my that was my favorite it.
56:33
Was like a Mountain Dew knock off.
56:34
It was a citrus. Well, it was the I.
56:36
Don't disrespect Serge like that.
56:38
Yeah, that's right, it was the Coke lemon, like it was replaced
56:43
by. Mellow Yellow.
56:45
Yeah, Mellow Yellow was around and then it came back to replace
56:48
Serge and. Mellow Yellow is Coke's
56:53
contribution to the Mountain Dew contest.
56:56
And it's, I mean, they're getting blown out of the water.
56:58
But, and, and it is more like this is like Mountain Dew.
57:02
Serge was not. It was a citrus soda, but it
57:04
wasn't, it wasn't quite Mountain Dew.
57:07
It was it was a somewhere between, like Mountain Dew and
57:10
an energy drink. Well, I'm.
57:13
Glad a lot of caffeine. I'm glad you brought that up
57:15
because one of the ones that I had I had sort of made a mental
57:19
note of was Vault. Do you remember Vault?
57:22
I do well. So vault is surge.
57:25
Vault was was when they were trying to bring Surge back and
57:28
rebranding it. It was the same recipe.
57:31
Was it really? Yes, wow, it was Surge, you
57:34
guys. Just did not know that.
57:35
Yeah, did not know. The other one I thought of was
57:37
so be adrenaline rush the. So be.
57:40
So be in general. Was sick.
57:42
Yeah. Those glass bottles with the
57:44
little lizard on it, Yeah. So are, yeah.
57:48
Are Fresca still around? Yeah, dude, yeah.
57:51
Are they really? Yeah, I've seen them.
57:53
Look at this. Look at that.
57:55
How many? Drinks do you have like how
57:57
this? Is empty.
57:57
This is from yesterday. It was just so like, but I keep
58:00
yeah, I keep Fresca. Somebody told me that the
58:03
closest thing the the closest thing to a white monster without
58:07
caffeine was Fresca. So I I started buying Fresca.
58:11
Now I'm it's not close to White Monster, but Fresca's good.
58:15
He's. Great.
58:16
He's Dwight. He's.
58:17
Dwight when he didn't, when he couldn't leave his desk.
58:20
Does that sound AC leaking? No, and they're in the back of
58:26
the car. Oh yeah, yeah, the PT Cruiser.
58:27
Yeah, yeah, different scene, but yeah, same.
58:29
Thing I've got, I've got 2. I don't know how to narrow it
58:33
down. Should I just say both of them
58:34
and we can vote on it? Sure, because we're going to
58:37
have like 45 minutes worth of trivia, I'm sure.
58:39
So let's, let's get it. We'll get it out in front of.
58:42
This. So my first one would be the
58:45
grilled stuffed burrito from Taco Bell.
58:51
Any comments on that? No.
58:53
Well no, it's hard for me to say because I feel like Taco Bell
58:58
just interchanges their menu so much where it's like new Taco
59:02
Bell the the beefy cheesy ricey with lettuce, gordita Taco
59:07
stuffed crunch with cheese. That are just made into 12
59:12
different menu items. They just present it
59:14
differently. Yeah, so like you saying the the
59:17
grilled chicken Queso Nacho deluxe burrito.
59:21
No, you don't know. Ball.
59:22
You don't know Ball. It'll be back.
59:24
It'll be back as a As a marketing campaign, it'll be
59:27
the. Grilled stuffed burrito, you get
59:28
it with steak and it's got like pico de Gallo and it's insane.
59:31
OK. Moving on the other one.
59:34
I've got another one too. Definitely easier to vote on
59:39
just strictly because of nostalgia.
59:41
Just punch me right in. The nostalgia would be the iPod.
59:47
Oh yes. Oh, that's a good call though.
59:49
Yeah. Have you seen that the, the
59:52
latest, like I, I don't know if they still call it the iPod
59:58
shuffle, but I think it's, it's gone through so many iterations
1:00:01
that it's basic. It's basically back, dude.
1:00:06
If I say, hey, if I got his own domain in there, Josh, if I, if
1:00:10
I say like, I'd love to see them bring the Model T back.
1:00:13
Are you going to like go into the closet and roll out the like
1:00:16
the original? You got to come up with
1:00:18
something else. I don't have anything from
1:00:19
saying find. Me a grilled stuffed burrito
1:00:23
somewhere in there. What was I saying?
1:00:26
What was your last thing, Nate? IPod The.
1:00:29
IPod yeah then it's like apparently gone through so many
1:00:31
iterations it is basically like gone full circle and it's like
1:00:35
back to what it used to be and they're like presenting it as
1:00:38
this new thing I don't know but anyway I.
1:00:40
Agree with you, they got us in a chokehold.
1:00:43
They do. I admit it.
1:00:45
The last thing I'll add, which I don't know if it really counts
1:00:48
'cause I guess do they still have pancakes at, at McDonald's.
1:00:50
But the the the hotcakes meal that came in the yellow
1:00:54
Styrofoam tray, you know what I'm talking about.
1:00:57
Just cooking up some chemicals in there.
1:00:59
No doubt. But I tell you what, nostalgia
1:01:02
is a powerful drug. And I'm I'm, I'm victims.
1:01:06
That's actually you could broaden that.
1:01:07
Just bring back the actual dollar menu.
1:01:11
That's a great. Anyway, fantastic.
1:01:14
Affordable groceries. Dude I mean I think back to like
1:01:18
2. Dollars.
1:01:20
I think back to bad days, dude, I used to eat at Speedway.
1:01:24
I used to eat those cheeseburger roller dogs.
1:01:27
They were like cheeseburger Lynx.
1:01:29
I couldn't imagine. You want to talk about
1:01:31
chemicals? I want to know what his.
1:01:33
Doctor reports Look like this man's been consuming some crazy
1:01:37
stuff. White monsters.
1:01:39
Seekage Speaking of crazy stuff, let's get into some trivia.
1:01:45
Let's get into some trivia. I need to, I need to whip up a
1:01:48
Jingle for, for, for Josh's segment.
1:01:51
Honestly, I don't know how I haven't done that already.
1:01:53
JB's Jingle. So Nate called this.
1:01:55
He said this is really a theme going with the Japanese born
1:02:00
players. I'm going to stay on that theme
1:02:02
for trivia, so get your mind set on that and I'll, I'll, I'll set
1:02:08
you up a little bit here. Ichiro Suzuki and Yoshi Sutugo
1:02:12
have something in common in their first year in the MLB
1:02:16
after coming over from Japan. They hit eight home runs in
1:02:19
their first season. There are 9 Japanese players to
1:02:22
hit 10 or more. 6 have hit 14 or more.
1:02:26
And I'll kick, I'll, I'll do one to kick start you because it is
1:02:30
a tough one to Yoshi Shinjo, if you remember him, Yeah.
1:02:36
Hit ten home runs for the Mets in 2001.
1:02:40
The other 8 range from 2003 to 2023.
1:02:46
Eight players, most home runs in their first season.
1:02:50
Oh, in their first. In their first and this is so
1:02:54
this is Japanese born players, Japanese born players coming
1:02:58
over from Japan. So like not like a guy who went
1:03:01
to Japan for a few years and then came back to Major League
1:03:03
right. So there's eight of these 10 or
1:03:06
more home runs. You you just you just got the
1:03:09
first one. Shohei Otani.
1:03:10
Good. Job.
1:03:12
Down to 7. Hideki Matsui.
1:03:15
There you go. That's two of.
1:03:17
All right, two of eight. Hold on, hold on.
1:03:20
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
1:03:21
Let's think this through because we're we're, we're real close to
1:03:23
me to. Maximum is the 20, is the 2003
1:03:27
by the way, that's the oldest name on here.
1:03:31
How did How did Can you tell us the home run total?
1:03:36
What? What does that matter?
1:03:38
Just listen. Well, it's 10 or more, so
1:03:42
Shohei. Otani, the most, you said the
1:03:44
most in their in their first season, that's all.
1:03:46
Yeah, he's looking for the top. What'd you say, 8?
1:03:48
The top eight, yeah. And we've gotten 3.
1:03:51
You've gotten. You, you gained.
1:03:54
I gave you one, so there's one. There's actually 8.
1:03:56
You've gotten 2 of the 8 so far. So we're we're still we need 6.
1:04:00
How did Yoshida do? Yeah, Yoshida's on the list #5
1:04:05
well done 2023. That is the most recent.
1:04:07
And Suzuki. There you go, You guys are
1:04:10
killing it. The threshold is what, 10?
1:04:12
10 or more, I mean, yeah, because the OK yeah, the top 11
1:04:17
it it goes from Shohei at 22 home runs.
1:04:20
Sure. And Yoshi and Ichiro at 8:00.
1:04:25
So you're wait, you've got 4. You only need 124 more.
1:04:33
Dude. You only need four more and they
1:04:35
range from, yeah, they range from O5, which that's a really
1:04:40
tough one. That's going to be, that's going
1:04:41
to be a tough 105-0608 and 2012 just to give you your range now.
1:04:48
2012 Was it a giant? No, actually.
1:04:55
I don't even think that now that I don't think I would have
1:04:57
counted. She was a good guess.
1:05:08
I don't even know if that would have been one of the first names
1:05:10
it makes would have thrown out. Thanks dude.
1:05:13
Yoshida hit fifteen home runs his first season over here.
1:05:16
Guy loves hitting rollover grounders.
1:05:21
Dude, I don't the Red Sox just hate that guy.
1:05:22
I don't understand why he's not bad.
1:05:25
They cannot stand Yoshida. So while you're thinking too, I
1:05:29
will say, you know, we talked about, we talked about Okamoto,
1:05:32
we talked about Murakami and now we just brought up Saya Suzuki,
1:05:37
we talked about Shoda in this, in this episode.
1:05:39
And we're talk like this is Toronto, this is Chicago.
1:05:42
Like these are kind of hotbeds for, for like that's a good
1:05:47
place for Japanese players to go because there's, you know,
1:05:49
there's a good culture there. West Coast obviously is also the
1:05:54
thing about the thing about Emai.
1:05:57
I think I heard somewhere that there's like 3000 people,
1:06:00
Japanese people in Houston like that.
1:06:03
It is not popular. Really interesting that that was
1:06:07
the pick because a lot of times. Soaking it up, by the way, in
1:06:09
Houston. Have you seen that making his
1:06:11
rounds? Even though intro.
1:06:12
President named after a Japanese company too.
1:06:14
So you would. Think.
1:06:16
You know, maybe they're trying to to garner up some attention
1:06:19
there, but. I like when they cue these,
1:06:22
these Japanese players up with with the sound bites at the
1:06:26
beginning of their pressers for the where he's like, what's up H
1:06:29
town? I I mean, credit to him.
1:06:33
He, he did like a whole little spiel there where I was like,
1:06:35
man, that's that had to take some practice, but he, he
1:06:38
crushed it. What were the years, Josh?
1:06:40
Yeah. So the years are O six O 8 and
1:06:48
where's the other one O 5? Sorry, I went out of order there
1:06:51
in 2012. And The thing is, is like what I
1:06:53
just said kind of rings true a little bit.
1:06:55
You've got one West Coast teams, you've got two more Chicago
1:06:58
guys, and then there's one guy that just kind of sitting in
1:07:02
Milwaukee. I'll throw that out there.
1:07:04
That was kind of rare as far as like where these players like to
1:07:08
go. The rest of these guys are New
1:07:09
York, LA, Chicago, obviously Ichiro in Seattle.
1:07:18
Wait, Hessen was no you? The years didn't line up.
1:07:20
He wasn't even, he was Korean anything.
1:07:22
Yeah, yeah, he wasn't. Japan, that's that's going to be
1:07:25
a trick too, as if you know what I mean, If you, you got to know
1:07:29
where they got to be able to. Do are we just throwing names
1:07:32
out there? Are we?
1:07:33
Like, yeah, throwing names out there, let's.
1:07:34
Get a movie. No, this is going to be tough,
1:07:36
dude. How?
1:07:37
How about like a Kazmatsui? Oh, Kazmatsu, let me.
1:07:43
Sounds like he isn't. Where did my?
1:07:47
Kasmusui, let me look around here.
1:07:49
Yeah, it's. Basically he's not on that list,
1:07:51
but I do want to look and see where he landed.
1:07:52
So he was, he had 7. So he just was outside of this
1:07:56
11 he's #13. I mean the threshold is 10.
1:08:00
Yeah, it's right there. Back off, man.
1:08:03
I can't think of any other guys. Well, I mean you could say the
1:08:05
same for. OK, that one.
1:08:06
Guy that had no homers, it was only 10 away it.
1:08:10
Was three away. It's not.
1:08:13
That bad? But where do we draw the line?
1:08:14
Like where? What's like?
1:08:16
Yeah, that's a way you don't remember old Kaz.
1:08:19
Honestly, I hadn't. I can tell you this is actually
1:08:21
interesting. This is actually interesting.
1:08:23
I don't know that this one counts, but two home runs in his
1:08:27
first season. Dave Roberts was born in Japan,
1:08:30
so he shows up on this. List count it count.
1:08:32
It but it's only two home runs. Dude, I'm not I'm not
1:08:40
generating, I'm not great with the the pre.
1:08:45
OK, so let's 2012 let's. Get it moving here.
1:08:48
I'll say the the the number two guy with eighteen home runs in
1:08:52
his first season played for Seattle and he was a catcher.
1:08:56
Kurt Suzuki. Because.
1:08:58
American. Yeah.
1:09:04
Seattle catcher back off. Yeah.
1:09:07
Seattle catcher from. Nationals legend Kurt Suzuki.
1:09:12
Seattle catcher from 2618 home runs.
1:09:20
Dude, hold on. I want to find this.
1:09:23
I'm I'm on a mission. Are you looking through baseball
1:09:26
cards? Yeah, well, I don't want to
1:09:27
cheat, I don't want to Google it, but I feel like I'm going.
1:09:30
To stumble across. Well, I feel like if I find it,
1:09:33
I feel like that's that's earning it.
1:09:34
I'm putting the work in. I don't think I could name a
1:09:37
single Japanese catcher. All right, here we go, Mariners.
1:09:43
All right, just. Going to stumble across the card
1:09:45
it's going to nail it from from 2006.
1:09:49
Jeremy. Reed He was 30 years old when he
1:09:52
came over. Jesus, Jesus Montero, I'm just a
1:09:55
Yankee legend. Yankee legend.
1:10:00
Any idea on the 2012 Milwaukee Brewer who hit ten home runs and
1:10:07
played middle infield I believe. Mike Zanino, no.
1:10:11
A walkie Brewer. Did he play?
1:10:14
Actually, I might have been an outfielder.
1:10:16
He was an outfielder. Randy Win.
1:10:19
Nice. I got that guy's card.
1:10:21
Jeremy Reed, you already said to him.
1:10:24
Bucky Jacobson. Lock it in, man.
1:10:28
OK, so there's there's one guy 2008 he had ten home runs in in
1:10:36
2008. He was 31 years old.
1:10:38
It was the Cubs, but it's a name that, you know, he never really
1:10:45
hit a a ton of homers here. Charlie Moore.
1:10:49
But it's a guy that I think, you know, three years with the Cubs.
1:10:53
Should be getting. No, I mean, are we?
1:10:55
On the Are we on the Brewers? No, the Brewers was an
1:10:59
outfielder. I mean, these guys, I'm just
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kind of getting those low ones. You want me to start throwing
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them out there here? Because we're, we're, we're
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going. I give up.
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All right, the the Chicago Cub. Lyle over Bay.
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Yes. The Chicago cub who had ten home
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runs in 2008 was Kosuke Fukudome wouldn't.
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Have got him. OK.
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And the Brewer was Nori Aoki. Definitely would've gotten them.
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Probably wouldn't have gotten them.
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So we've got two more and I listen, I just the white sock on
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here also fifteen home runs 2005 probably not getting it.
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Tata Hido Iguchi. Nope.
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Yeah, no. And the last one for Seattle,
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the catcher I was talking about was I can.
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Barely say my own name. Kenji, Kenji Jojima.
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Nope, Kenji. Jojima.
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Yo, check out this card, a Shannon Stewart game, you or I
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don't know if it's game you use, but yeah, Shannon Stewart uni
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card in there. Could be game used.
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It would say on the back if it your.
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So much nicer than mine. It says authentic game worn
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jersey. There you go.
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Shannon Stewart. What a guy.
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What a guy. Anyway, I don't want to get
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done. That's got to be a four $5 card,
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man. I I could use a bullish bit, I
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could slip it anyway. So that's your list and let me
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just say too let let well, no, I mean not you got more than well,
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you got half of them. But just to say like this trivia
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is kind of meant to show you a little bit.
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These guys had some numbers. SO22 Shohei had the most in
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their first year here. Now he's different. 22 was his
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career high, but he was 23 years old.
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But a lot of these guys like Joe Jama's most was 36.
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Matsui's was 50. Fukudome, that was the year
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before Fukudome. His career high was 34.
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In Japan, you've got a lot of like Iguchi's was 30.
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He had 24 before coming over, say, a Suzuki at 38 before
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coming over. And Suzuki, what is it?
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What was this his fourth year over here?
1:13:05
He just hit 32 runs. So like Okamoto Murakami, like
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it could take them a few years to to get back to what they are
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used to doing or putting up the same numbers.
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Not that you don't believe in these players, but that's why
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the Murakami thing is so interesting.
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But he does. Give him a couple of years to
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figure it out. But he won't.
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Yeah, but when that time comes, he won't be in Chicago, which,
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to Nate's point, he'll be elsewhere.
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Unless he unless he goes to the Cubs fair.
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Speaking of the Cubs, let's wrap it up that that's doing 15th
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Segway. That should do it.
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Thank you all for for hanging out with us.
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That's episode 588 in the books. Guys, that's the longest break
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we're going to take until this time next year, probably.
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Let's face it, we're locked in from here on.
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Out, out. Feed the rush.
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Speaking out. Let's get out of here 16.
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Hey, Josh, you need to work on that on that outro.
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Yeah, all tonight, today it's feed the rush for surge.
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Feed the rush. Just stick with that Subway.
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Eat fresh. Nope.
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Nope, not it. All right, I'll do it.
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We'll see you guys. We'll see you guys next week.
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We love you all and as always, looking forward to talking more
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baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.