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- 0:04Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
- 0:08Speaker 2: So funny enough. Digging through the archives and I find
- 0:11Speaker 2: this very timely comparison between Joey O'tani and Babe Ruth
- 0:16Speaker 2: with the one and only Terminolo's take. I want to
- 0:18Speaker 2: feature it tonight before Game one because, as we all know,
- 0:22Speaker 2: Otani had a Ruthian game, three homers, ten strikeouts. I mean,
- 0:27Speaker 2: who did that before? I feel like that's a Ruthian situation.
- 0:30Speaker 2: But we dived into the Otani Ruth comparison two years ago.
- 0:35Speaker 3: He's an excellent hitter, and he's an excellent pitcher, and
- 0:39Speaker 3: he has a more he has a fifty to fifty chance,
- 0:41Speaker 3: depending on what happens the last six weeks of the season,
- 0:44Speaker 3: to win a Cy Young Award. So that would be
- 0:48Speaker 3: winning MVP and Cy Young would be remarkable. I mean,
- 0:54Speaker 3: he's having a remarkable year. I believe he's number one
- 0:57Speaker 3: in the major leagues at like one eighty nine batting
- 0:59Speaker 3: average against him. He's a tremendous He's a tremendous talent.
- 1:03Speaker 3: He will bring in revenue. He will bring in not
- 1:07Speaker 3: only revenue at the gate, but through various sponsorships. He'll
- 1:12Speaker 3: bring not only American sponsors, and he's going to bring
- 1:16Speaker 3: international sponsors. Of course, he's an international star. But again
- 1:23Speaker 3: it's a tough call.
- 1:26Speaker 1: You know, he disrupts analytics.
- 1:28Speaker 4: What I mean by that is you're not not going
- 1:30Speaker 4: to sit out tunny because a right hander or a
- 1:32Speaker 4: left hander is pitching.
- 1:33Speaker 1: He's a disruptor to that analytics world.
- 1:35Speaker 3: I feel like, no, I would say so, you know,
- 1:41Speaker 3: I would say so.
- 1:42Speaker 4: The way you're talking reminds me of someone who actually
- 1:45Speaker 4: you want to talk about last week because a very
- 1:48Speaker 4: famous baseballer died seventy five years ago last week, tell
- 1:55Speaker 4: us tell us about why you want to talk about
- 1:58Speaker 4: Babe Ruth on this on this feature today.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Well, Babe Ruth, in my opinion, is the greatest athlete
- 2:06Speaker 3: in team sports, in team sports history. He died seventy
- 2:11Speaker 3: five years ago our last Wednesday, on August sixteenth, nineteen
- 2:15Speaker 3: forty eight. He was fifty three years old. Babe Ruth
- 2:20Speaker 3: is iconic historical star. There's nobody like him. And I
- 2:29Speaker 3: know we hear a lot about Well Otani's been in
- 2:33Speaker 3: Babe Ruth. Otani's been in Babe Ruth. Well, talk about
- 2:37Speaker 3: a slap in the face to Babe Ruth. It's the
- 2:40Speaker 3: ultimate slap in the face. And I love Otani. I mean,
- 2:44Speaker 3: I saw him pitched that one hitter against the Tigers
- 2:47Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, he was in total command.
- 2:49Speaker 3: And then the second game of the on the same day,
- 2:51Speaker 3: in the second game of double oather, his first two
- 2:53Speaker 3: times up, he hits two home runs. He hits a
- 2:56Speaker 3: home run each time up. He's the best player in baseball.
- 3:00Speaker 3: He deserves all the accolades he gets. But the media,
- 3:03Speaker 3: whether it's on ESPN or MLB network or on series,
- 3:08Speaker 3: satellite radio, or anywhere, trying to say that he's the
- 3:11Speaker 3: best player of all time, I don't see it. I
- 3:15Speaker 3: don't understand it. You know, Babe Ruth. He had his stats, Alex,
- 3:22Speaker 3: his impact on the game is like none other. I mean,
- 3:26Speaker 3: you got to remember he came into baseball just as
- 3:30Speaker 3: baseball is going through the crossroads and at the tip
- 3:35Speaker 3: of where it might have gone the other way, not
- 3:37Speaker 3: have been the national past time. The underworld was involved
- 3:43Speaker 3: with baseball organized crime in nineteen nineteen with the Black
- 3:47Speaker 3: Sox scandal, with the White Sox throwing the nineteen ninety
- 3:51Speaker 3: World Series and eight great baseball players on the best
- 3:55Speaker 3: team in Baseball, the Chicago White Sox being even though
- 3:59Speaker 3: they were all acquitted when the case went to trial,
- 4:03Speaker 3: Kennesaw Mountain Landers, the commission, the first Commissioner of Baseball,
- 4:08Speaker 3: bought them for life. So they needed somebody to boost them,
- 4:13Speaker 3: and they were lucky that they had Babe Ruth, who
- 4:16Speaker 3: had just been sold to the Yankees after a very
- 4:19Speaker 3: successful career as a pitcher, and he did hit with
- 4:22Speaker 3: the Red Sox. He did play the outfield also during
- 4:24Speaker 3: that time came to the Yankees. The Yankees up until
- 4:29Speaker 3: that time they were formed in nineteen oh one. They
- 4:32Speaker 3: didn't win their first pennant until nineteen twenty one. Babe,
- 4:35Speaker 3: when Babe Ruth got to the Yankees, so now, and
- 4:40Speaker 3: he helped set the dynasty that still exists today as
- 4:44Speaker 3: the New York Yankees. They called that two years later.
- 4:47Speaker 3: The Yankees played in twenty one and twenty two in
- 4:50Speaker 3: the in the Polo Grounds, shared it with the Giants,
- 4:53Speaker 3: and then moved a half a mile away two years
- 4:57Speaker 3: later to the first Yankee Stadium. They called the House
- 5:01Speaker 3: that Ruth built. And that's accurate. No, Babe Ruth, there's
- 5:05Speaker 3: no Yankee Stadium. You know, he's the first guy to
- 5:08Speaker 3: hit thirty home runs, the first guy to hit twenty
- 5:11Speaker 3: home runs, the first guy hit forty home runs, first
- 5:13Speaker 3: guy hit fifty home runs, the first guy to He
- 5:17Speaker 3: won ninety four games. He was ninety four and forty six.
- 5:22Speaker 3: He had one hundred and seventeen complete games, Alex. He
- 5:28Speaker 3: had seventeen shutouts. He had the longest scoreless streak in
- 5:34Speaker 3: the World Series play Wings with the Red Sox. I
- 5:36Speaker 3: think like twenty six or twenty five innings that eventually
- 5:40Speaker 3: was broken by Yankee left handed Whitey Ford in nineteen
- 5:43Speaker 3: sixty and sixty one World Series. He was remarkable. He
- 5:49Speaker 3: was a remarkable player. He scored one hundred and seven
- 5:52Speaker 3: seventy runs in nineteen twenty one. He never struck out
- 5:57Speaker 3: one hundred times. Never struck out. This slugger who had
- 6:01Speaker 3: seven hundred fourteen horns, never struck out one hundred times.
- 6:08Speaker 3: He's just he's just a remarkable player. He had a
- 6:11Speaker 3: three forty four lifetime batting average, three forty four. He
- 6:18Speaker 3: he's remarkable. Three He was three and zero in the
- 6:21Speaker 3: World Series play. I mean what you could just go
- 6:26Speaker 3: on and on, Like I said, most shoutouts by a
- 6:31Speaker 3: left handed pitcher in the American League ALEX nine. It
- 6:35Speaker 3: still exists today. Ron Gidrey tied it in nineteen seventy eight.
- 6:41Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's remarkable. American League in nineteen seventeen.
- 6:47Speaker 3: He had thirty five complete games in nineteen seventeen.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Now the whole life, they weren't They weren't worried about
- 6:54Speaker 4: babying him like they probably are worried about babying Otani
- 6:56Speaker 4: a little bit.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Right, That's the only difference is that.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Ruth did all they do.
- 7:03Speaker 3: You're right, they're actually I guess they're holding him out
- 7:08Speaker 3: until Wednesday night to pitch next and again. For all
- 7:13Speaker 3: of Otani's offensive brilliance, he's a designated hitter. Babe Ruth
- 7:19Speaker 3: never wasn't designated hither. They didn't have it designated hither.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Back then, Babe Ruth stole one hundred and twenty three bases.
- 7:26Speaker 3: You think of a slow, lumbering guy, Babe Ruth wasn't slow.
- 7:30Speaker 3: He stole ten bases or more five seasons. In a
- 7:34Speaker 3: one World Series game, he sold second and third. I mean,
- 7:40Speaker 3: this guy was remarkable. He batted three twenty six in
- 7:47Speaker 3: ten World Series. He had eighteen home runs in World Series.
- 7:52Speaker 4: Play well I don't know if Otan will ever get
- 7:58Speaker 4: there with the Angels, but we'll have to see where
- 7:59Speaker 4: he goes in free agency.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that it was he
- 8:05Speaker 1: did things that we'll never see before. I mean, he
- 8:07Speaker 1: had sixty.
- 8:07Speaker 4: He must have had sixty homers, right, you know, before
- 8:10Speaker 4: McGuire did and one season sixty.
- 8:12Speaker 3: He had sixty home runs in one hundred and fifty
- 8:14Speaker 3: four games in nineteen twenty seven.
- 8:18Speaker 4: And I know that those those stats matter, meaning the
- 8:22Speaker 4: differential of games and nine games more actually changes everything.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Games more changes everything, doesn't it?
- 8:30Speaker 3: It absolutely does. I mean, I mean Alex, this guy
- 8:36Speaker 3: had two hundred. This guy had four hundred and eighty
- 8:38Speaker 3: eight pitching strikeouts. He had a lifetime era of two
- 8:42Speaker 3: twenty eight. He batted in two thousand, two hundred and
- 8:46Speaker 3: fourteen runs besides getting twenty eight hundred and seventy three hits.
- 8:52Speaker 3: The guy's remarkable seven time world champion. He only won
- 8:56Speaker 3: one MVP because MVP just started at that time. There
- 9:01Speaker 3: was no MVP, I be believe, before nineteen twenty one,
- 9:05Speaker 3: no official MVP led the American League in the home
- 9:08Speaker 3: runs twelve times. I mean pitched a combined no hitter
- 9:13Speaker 3: at nineteen seventeen for the Red Sox, you know, and
- 9:19Speaker 3: also he his importance to the game helped other sports.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Baseball becoming a national pastime, led to the NFL, the NBA,
- 9:34Speaker 3: the NHL. If baseball failed, I'm not sure if these
- 9:38Speaker 3: other sports would have even existed like they do today
- 9:41Speaker 3: on a team sport level.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Was he a multi sport athlete, Babe Ruth? I mean,
- 9:47Speaker 1: can you tell us that.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I do not believe he was a multi sport athlete.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I don't believe. I think he concentrated on baseball. He
- 9:56Speaker 3: maybe played football because he wasn't an offering. And I
- 10:00Speaker 3: know he was in an orphanage when the Red Sox
- 10:03Speaker 3: did sign him, and uh uh he uh uh. You
- 10:11Speaker 3: know then when the Red Sox signed him, and then
- 10:13Speaker 3: eventually they were in financial problems and they sold them
- 10:18Speaker 3: to the to the Yankees, and of course that started
- 10:21Speaker 3: the Curse of the Bambino. It took the Red Sox
- 10:25Speaker 3: eighty six years to to win their World Series and
- 10:29Speaker 3: break that that that drought. But he was I do
- 10:36Speaker 3: not believe he was a play any other sport. But
- 10:41Speaker 3: he was also not only that, he was also charismatic.
- 10:45Speaker 3: He was every he was everywhere, and he you know,
- 10:48Speaker 3: and uh, it's I just can't believe how people are
- 10:54Speaker 3: trying to say that Otani has been in Bay Ruth.
- 10:58Speaker 3: It makes no sense. First of all, never mind Babe Bruce.
- 11:01Speaker 3: And like I told you, I love all times. I
- 11:04Speaker 3: love watching him pitch and then uh, the next day
- 11:09Speaker 3: excel at the bat. But he's not as good as
- 11:12Speaker 3: Willie Mays or McKey mannle or Joe DiMaggio or Ken
- 11:17Speaker 3: Griffey Jr. Or stand usual, He's not.
- 11:25Speaker 1: No, I mean, he's you know, he's he's incredible, But
- 11:30Speaker 1: I get what you're saying is that he's not. I
- 11:33Speaker 1: don't even know you think he's a Hall of Famer.
- 11:36Speaker 1: I mean we're early in his career. Do you think, oh, yeah, he's.
- 11:39Speaker 3: On the Hall of Fame path. There's no question about it.
- 11:42Speaker 3: He's on the path at first ballot Hall of Famer.
- 11:46Speaker 3: He's a remarkable player. But there's only one, Babe Bruce.
- 11:52Speaker 2: All right, Lou, I'm going to bring you back in
- 11:54Speaker 2: for a bonus round here. And you're on the phone
- 11:57Speaker 2: me now. You said he's a first ballot Hall of Fame.
- 12:00Speaker 2: The last couple of years since he went to the
- 12:02Speaker 2: Dodgers truly has etched his place in the Hall of Fame.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Scandal aside, right, Oh.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Absolutely, Alex.
- 12:10Speaker 5: And remember when he was a free agent, I did
- 12:14Speaker 5: not think he was gonna go to the Dodgers. I
- 12:15Speaker 5: had the Giants as the potential landing place, and because
- 12:23Speaker 5: of the year before, they lost out on Judge at
- 12:25Speaker 5: the eleventh hour, and I know the Toronto Blue Jays
- 12:29Speaker 5: made a major offer and at one point it seemed
- 12:33Speaker 5: like that's where we're gonna go. But he ended up
- 12:35Speaker 5: with the Dodgers, and obviously he you know, he's just
- 12:40Speaker 5: extended his legend very greatness and has a chance to
- 12:47Speaker 5: not only be part of a second straight winning World
- 12:52Speaker 5: Series champion, but he's gonna pitch in this World Series,
- 12:55Speaker 5: something he couldn't do last year because he was recovering
- 12:58Speaker 5: from the Tommy Johnson So he is definitely a unique player,
- 13:04Speaker 5: and he's definitely bring eyeballs to the TV sets.
- 13:08Speaker 1: And is the number one.
- 13:12Speaker 5: Draw internationally in baseball.
- 13:15Speaker 2: All right, lou So that was Terminella's take. Extra But
- 13:19Speaker 2: when you saw that home run, three home run, ten strikeout, game,
- 13:22Speaker 2: six innings scoreless, we both weren't around for Babe Ruth.
- 13:26Speaker 2: But we all know the highlights. Did it remind you
- 13:28Speaker 2: of what you watched in the highlight reel of Babe Ruth?
- 13:31Speaker 5: Or what?
- 13:32Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, I remember when Day was a pitcher.
- 13:35Speaker 5: He was almost exclusively a pitcher and played and he
- 13:40Speaker 5: also played the outfield. But you know he won ninety
- 13:44Speaker 5: three games as.
- 13:45Speaker 3: A pitcher, lost only forty four.
- 13:47Speaker 5: We said many times he had the World Series record
- 13:49Speaker 5: for most scoreless innings consecutively until Whitey Ford broken.
- 13:54Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty one. Again, Ohtanie's great.
- 13:59Speaker 5: What he did last week was maybe the greatest single
- 14:02Speaker 5: game effort ever. Six innings, ten strikeouts, three mammoth home
- 14:07Speaker 5: runs in a clinching game against the Brewers. But the
- 14:12Speaker 5: Babe Ruth is the reason, Oh Tony had an opportunity
- 14:15Speaker 5: to do that, and all these guys.
- 14:17Speaker 3: Were playing today.
- 14:18Speaker 5: Babe Ruth saved baseball when it was coming off. The
- 14:22Speaker 5: Chicago White Sox throwing off games, the Black Sox scandal,
- 14:27Speaker 5: and Babe Ruth saved baseball. Remember baby Bruce was hitting.
- 14:32Speaker 5: When Baby Bruce was hitting sixty home runs and fifty
- 14:34Speaker 5: four home runs, he was out slugging.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Teams.
- 14:40Speaker 5: Teams weren't hitting fifty four home runs or sixty and
- 14:43Speaker 5: Babe was doing it by himself.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Well, there you go. I'll extended Terminolo's take tonight because
- 14:50Speaker 2: this is why you keep the archives. This was from
- 14:51Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I found this. How about that.
- 14:55Speaker 5: Time flies Alex and.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Boy talk about the Angels. Such a missed opportunity. You
- 15:00Speaker 2: can get into that another night, But man oh man
- 15:02Speaker 2: Otani trout that was a missed opportunity for the Angels
- 15:07Speaker 2: big time.
- 15:09Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 15:11Speaker 2: But for now it's world series about an hour away.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Low enjoy it, and yet everybody out there listening enjoy it.
- 15:17Speaker 2: This was Terminalo's take extra tonight.