Latest / The You Project / #1787 Post-Forty Exercise (For Women) - Harps & Tiff
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- 0:01Speaker 1: I'll get a team Welcome to another installing the you project.
- 0:04Speaker 1: It's me, it's you, It's bloody Tiffany and CUK. Who's
- 0:07Speaker 1: heading down south to the thriving metropolis that is is
- 0:12Speaker 1: it Lonceston?
- 0:13Speaker 2: Specific Devenport, Devenport, Port Van Diemen's Land.
- 0:19Speaker 1: At the top of For our international guests, Tasmania is
- 0:25Speaker 1: the bit off the bottom of mainland Australia, the bit
- 0:28Speaker 1: off the bottom. It'll be known moving forward as the
- 0:30Speaker 1: bit off. No, it won't. I love Tazzy. What's the
- 0:34Speaker 1: population of Devenport, give or take tiff Is it like
- 0:37Speaker 1: I'm going to go twenty thousand?
- 0:39Speaker 3: Oh? I think you might be right, but I can't remember.
- 0:43Speaker 1: I do a little quick search now or it could
- 0:46Speaker 1: be I reckon it's it's not going to be fifty,
- 0:49Speaker 1: but it's not going to be ten. I'm thinking. My
- 0:52Speaker 1: guess is Ballpark twenty to twenty five.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And the winner is twenty six point one five. That
- 1:00Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty one.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Well it's probably back to twenty now.
- 1:04Speaker 3: It's been money.
- 1:06Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I love Tazzy. If
- 1:10Speaker 1: I could only live in one state that wasn't Victoria,
- 1:13Speaker 1: I would live there. Everyone goes Queensland. I would live
- 1:15Speaker 1: in Tazzy. People don't get how beautiful Tazzy is.
- 1:18Speaker 3: It is beautiful, oh you.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Just basically you're on a beach wherever you go, Like
- 1:24Speaker 1: there's a beach three feet away and everyone thinks it's freezing.
- 1:28Speaker 1: It's actually got, if not the lowest, one of the
- 1:31Speaker 1: lowest rainfalls in Australia. And of course it's a little
- 1:36Speaker 1: bit colder than Victoria, but in summer it's fucking amazing.
- 1:39Speaker 1: There's so many beautiful things. It's like for me and
- 1:43Speaker 1: I mean this with love Tasmania, so don't get mad
- 1:45Speaker 1: at me. It's like living in nineteen eighty five. It's
- 1:51Speaker 1: just like the technology and everything's there if you want it,
- 1:55Speaker 1: but just the intensity and the speed and the energy
- 1:59Speaker 1: is just like it's nothing like Melbourne or Sydney or
- 2:03Speaker 1: Brisbane or Perth, not that they're all the same either,
- 2:06Speaker 1: but yeah, I love it. So if I had to
- 2:10Speaker 1: live somewhere else that wasn't Melps, that's where I would go.
- 2:15Speaker 2: It's got a good energy and the Northwest Coast is
- 2:18Speaker 2: coming a long way in terms of a holiday destination.
- 2:22Speaker 2: In my humble opinion, last time I was home was
- 2:25Speaker 2: the first time I felt they've really started to make
- 2:28Speaker 2: it that appealing.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's lots to do.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And the beauty of twenty twenty five is like you
- 2:38Speaker 1: can depending on what kind of business you're in. But
- 2:40Speaker 1: because so much business now is done virtually or online.
- 2:45Speaker 1: You know, it's like you think about your work. I
- 2:47Speaker 1: think about my work, even my research and my study
- 2:50Speaker 1: now or my write ups and everything. I could do
- 2:53Speaker 1: about ninety percent of my well that's not I couldn't
- 2:56Speaker 1: do the corporate speaking, but putting that aside, that's a
- 2:59Speaker 1: big bit of it. But all the other stuff I
- 3:02Speaker 1: could do from anywhere in the world, like we could
- 3:04Speaker 1: do you know, I could be in New York and
- 3:06Speaker 1: you could be in bloody Devonport. We could still do
- 3:10Speaker 1: We could still do the same thing. You know, I
- 3:13Speaker 1: can do my coaching, my mentoring program that have just started.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I could do, you know, my research from anywhere. So
- 3:18Speaker 1: that's so I think it's made the world smaller in
- 3:22Speaker 1: that way and more accessible, and it means that you
- 3:25Speaker 1: can you know, I've been thinking, I don't mean to
- 3:30Speaker 1: sound like a wanker when I say this, because I
- 3:32Speaker 1: try to talk about it but I'm very fortunate that
- 3:34Speaker 1: I have a place on the peninsula. It's very small
- 3:38Speaker 1: and humble. It's essentially a shack everyone. It's nothing fucking fancy,
- 3:43Speaker 1: think of a garage anyway. But I'm going to go
- 3:47Speaker 1: down there and live down there some for some months
- 3:51Speaker 1: this year, just because it's so beautiful around there, and
- 3:54Speaker 1: I thought, you know, from where I am right now
- 3:58Speaker 1: to there is about an hour but it's on the ocean.
- 4:00Speaker 1: It's four hundred meters from the ocean. And like I
- 4:04Speaker 1: just I bought this joint years ago, really cheaply. I
- 4:06Speaker 1: was really lucky. But I I don't go there, like
- 4:11Speaker 1: I just don't use it enough. But I think I'm
- 4:13Speaker 1: going to go, you know, not for six months, but
- 4:16Speaker 1: I think I'm going to go down there for like
- 4:17Speaker 1: a month at a time and live down there because
- 4:19Speaker 1: there's nothing that I even if I've got gigs in
- 4:21Speaker 1: the city, I can still drive up or I can
- 4:23Speaker 1: still get to the airport. So I think I'm going
- 4:26Speaker 1: to start to do a little bit of that.
- 4:28Speaker 3: You and the new puppy.
- 4:30Speaker 1: I can't wait for puppy.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I can't wait for a puppy.
- 4:34Speaker 1: I keep looking at But let me tell you that
- 4:38Speaker 1: is a way better place for a puppy because there's
- 4:41Speaker 1: like it's a great like it's it's it's like the country.
- 4:44Speaker 1: It's not even it's like a big yard with a
- 4:47Speaker 1: bloody you know, cyclone fence with treated pole, bloody logs
- 4:51Speaker 1: and a farm gate. Yeah, that's that's you could have comfortably.
- 4:56Speaker 1: You could have three dogs down there. So I'm ex
- 5:00Speaker 1: I did. And if you haven't heard everyone on, well,
- 5:02Speaker 1: my intention at this point in time is when I
- 5:04Speaker 1: finished my study, which is about middle of the year,
- 5:08Speaker 1: I'm going to buy a puppy. I'm going to buy
- 5:10Speaker 1: a puppy. And I've narrowed it down either a Golden Retriever,
- 5:16Speaker 1: which I know, you know, like I just I've had
- 5:19Speaker 1: a Golden before and I love them. Maybe a labby,
- 5:23Speaker 1: but they kind of get fat. You really got to
- 5:25Speaker 1: be on top of them as in And I don't
- 5:27Speaker 1: mean that sounded bad. I mean they get unhealthy because
- 5:31Speaker 1: they eat that shame of dog. No, I don't you know,
- 5:34Speaker 1: but they fucking et everything that's not nailed down right.
- 5:37Speaker 1: They're like food obsessed. They're like me when I was fourteen.
- 5:41Speaker 1: I'm essentially I'm essentially an old labrador. That's essentially or
- 5:46Speaker 1: maybe I think maybe a border colligue. Anyway, so you
- 5:50Speaker 1: and I are going to have a brief chat about
- 5:53Speaker 1: one of the things that you talk about and I
- 5:54Speaker 1: talk about a fair bit. And we haven't done this.
- 5:57Speaker 1: We've probably done it once a chatter on this at
- 6:00Speaker 1: some stage, but I don't know if we've ever done
- 6:02Speaker 1: a whole episode on women and training. And we'll talk
- 6:07Speaker 1: a little bit about older women, younger women, menopausal, perimenopausal.
- 6:12Speaker 1: We'll see where we go. And just so these are
- 6:16Speaker 1: not recommendations, but tips a trainer and tips also an athlete,
- 6:20Speaker 1: and I'm an old dodgy trainer as well, So we
- 6:25Speaker 1: thought what we might open the door because people are
- 6:28Speaker 1: I think a couple of things are true at the moment.
- 6:31Speaker 1: More and more people are starting to exercize, which is great.
- 6:34Speaker 1: There's more and more awareness around not only the physiological
- 6:40Speaker 1: you know, benefits of being in shape and greater bone
- 6:43Speaker 1: density and more muscle and reduce arcopedia or muscle wasting,
- 6:47Speaker 1: but also we're starting to understand the emotional and psychological
- 6:51Speaker 1: and cognitive benefits of training. I know that when I
- 6:57Speaker 1: train early in the day, I my brain is in
- 7:01Speaker 1: a better biochemical state, my emotions are in a better state,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and I tend to be happier. I tend to be happier.
- 7:10Speaker 1: So maybe I should stop training at four PM.
- 7:12Speaker 3: I was going to say that, and what we trained
- 7:15Speaker 3: at four for?
- 7:18Speaker 2: So?
- 7:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's and so how often do you train?
- 7:25Speaker 1: What's your Do you have a set protocol? I know
- 7:27Speaker 1: you do bits and pieces with me, but most of
- 7:29Speaker 1: your training you do on your own. Do you have
- 7:32Speaker 1: a particular program or is it somewhat intuitive for you?
- 7:36Speaker 2: It's shifting and changing a lot at the moment, but
- 7:39Speaker 2: it's always I've always been when I train by myself,
- 7:42Speaker 2: I'm inclined to do my intense training or cardio training
- 7:47Speaker 2: or HIT training in the mornings. That's when I'm tell
- 7:50Speaker 2: people what hit HIT is high intensity interval training, So
- 7:54Speaker 2: anything that I'm going to get sweaty and push myself
- 7:58Speaker 2: get my heart rate up high, which is the style
- 8:00Speaker 2: of training I really love and I'm best suited for
- 8:04Speaker 2: that in the morning. When I am training for boxing,
- 8:07Speaker 2: I've always had to train in the afternoons because that's
- 8:09Speaker 2: when the coach is available to train, and I know
- 8:13Speaker 2: that that's a part of what tends to eventually burn
- 8:16Speaker 2: me out. It's not my best. It's not the best
- 8:19Speaker 2: for my body. My body works really well if I
- 8:22Speaker 2: get up, get the heart pumpy in the morning, and
- 8:26Speaker 2: I'm probably a bit better at the resistance training to
- 8:28Speaker 2: strength stuff at in the afternoon when we tend to train.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Are you training with so you're forty year one or two?
- 8:39Speaker 3: Forty one? Be forty two on the first of May?
- 8:43Speaker 1: Are you training Happy birthday for May one? I'll definitely
- 8:46Speaker 1: forget it, no one, because I just wrote it down
- 8:48Speaker 1: and I'll probably put it in my phone and still
- 8:50Speaker 1: ignore it. No way. Are you training at forty one
- 8:56Speaker 1: forty two in May? Are you thinking about Obviously, it's
- 8:59Speaker 1: still a long way from being old. I'm still waiting
- 9:01Speaker 1: to get old. But do you train thinking about longevity
- 9:05Speaker 1: and health span? And you know, waking up in a
- 9:08Speaker 1: minute and you go, fuck, now, I'm fifty? How's my
- 9:09Speaker 1: bone density? How's my posture? How's my energy? How's my function?
- 9:14Speaker 1: Do you think like that? Or not at all? Yeah?
- 9:16Speaker 3: I do. I do, Finick think like that.
- 9:18Speaker 2: And my training over the last one to two years
- 9:21Speaker 2: has has forcefully changed a lot. I've been forced to
- 9:25Speaker 2: think about that and acknowledge what I want to get
- 9:30Speaker 2: out of my training versus what I need to get
- 9:32Speaker 2: out of my training versus what my body can now
- 9:35Speaker 2: adapt to and handle in training.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Right, Can I ask you a personal question, yes, just
- 9:44Speaker 1: because I think it's relevant and we can take this out.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Do you get regular periods? Because a lot of girls
- 9:53Speaker 1: who are very lean and muscular like you are a
- 9:57Speaker 1: menoreeicy don't. They don't get a peer Is that the
- 10:00Speaker 1: right term. I think it is they don't get a
- 10:02Speaker 1: period all the time. Yeah.
- 10:04Speaker 2: No, I'm regular, I've never but years ago when I
- 10:08Speaker 2: I mean, I spent a long time on the contraceptive pill,
- 10:10Speaker 2: so I couldn't tell you if in some of the
- 10:13Speaker 2: depths of my hard training and early boxing training, if
- 10:16Speaker 2: I was if I was pushing myself too hard, well,
- 10:19Speaker 2: I would have been pushing myself too hard then evidence.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:24Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I'm still regular, But I know that
- 10:30Speaker 2: my body doesn't recover the way it did before. And
- 10:34Speaker 2: there's a few things that I think go into that.
- 10:36Speaker 2: I think by the time we get to this age,
- 10:38Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on.
- 10:39Speaker 3: There's both just.
- 10:40Speaker 2: There's the life stuff and there's the potential for long
- 10:44Speaker 2: term burnout, which I've probably done for a long time.
- 10:49Speaker 2: I tinkered with ADHD medication on a very small scale
- 10:54Speaker 2: for a couple of years, but I came to a
- 10:56Speaker 2: conclusion I think that that was too stimulating for my system,
- 11:00Speaker 2: a system that I want to be able to push
- 11:03Speaker 2: and create my own dopamine, and so I think that
- 11:06Speaker 2: that was a negative for me. I've gone off that
- 11:08Speaker 2: now because I felt like it was it was like
- 11:12Speaker 2: taking high amount of caffeine. It was like borrowing from
- 11:15Speaker 2: a system that you can't pay back. So I felt
- 11:19Speaker 2: I feel that for me it was too much of
- 11:21Speaker 2: a cost.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Wow, that's super interesting. How long that's Thanks for sharing that.
- 11:27Speaker 2: You know.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Here's the thing, right with asking these questions. It's like
- 11:31Speaker 1: it's like when I did an episode on how to
- 11:34Speaker 1: be good at shitting right, Everyone's like, oh my god,
- 11:37Speaker 1: you can't talk about that. I'm like, well, firstly, everyone
- 11:40Speaker 1: shits right, so fucking settled down with your offense, like
- 11:44Speaker 1: fucking rain it in, like what you don't pooh? And
- 11:48Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, hardly anyone ever gets constipated.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Look at you. I mean every fucking you know. One
- 11:56Speaker 1: of the biggest issues that I used to have with
- 11:58Speaker 1: my female clients constipation. I would say two thirds of
- 12:03Speaker 1: my female clients would be semi regularly constipated. And I
- 12:08Speaker 1: mean along with other standouts like they can't sleep or
- 12:12Speaker 1: anxiety or you know, but there are some really And
- 12:14Speaker 1: it's not like I went searching for this. You know,
- 12:17Speaker 1: this is just data. I literally did tens of thousands
- 12:20Speaker 1: of sessions with women. So I don't have a preoccupation
- 12:23Speaker 1: with periods or menopause or perimenopause or pooing or this.
- 12:27Speaker 1: But these are just fucking biological functions that come with
- 12:31Speaker 1: being you know, some of them with being a female
- 12:33Speaker 1: and some of them just with being a human. But
- 12:36Speaker 1: it amuses me that people get freaked out when you
- 12:39Speaker 1: talk about having a shit. Will trust me not shitting
- 12:43Speaker 1: is bad for you. So if I can give you
- 12:47Speaker 1: some advice or direction on how to improve one's shitting efficiency,
- 12:51Speaker 1: fucking lean in, because what part of.
- 12:55Speaker 3: This conversation made you think of shit.
- 13:00Speaker 1: That? Like sometimes when I open a door, I think,
- 13:03Speaker 1: fuck do I want to open? Like when I asked
- 13:05Speaker 1: you about you know, your cycle, I'm like, do I
- 13:09Speaker 1: do this? And I think I don't. You know, I
- 13:13Speaker 1: don't want to be inappropriate, but at the same time,
- 13:15Speaker 1: you know it's it's this is just part of the
- 13:18Speaker 1: reality of life as a woman at a certain for
- 13:23Speaker 1: a long time in your life anyway, and then that
- 13:25Speaker 1: you know. So, I think if we're talking about women's
- 13:28Speaker 1: health broadly today, let's talk about all of it, you know.
- 13:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:33Speaker 1: So, by the way, if you want to ask me
- 13:35Speaker 1: anything or say anything, just interrupt me.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Do your cycle regular, my.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Cycle, my shitting cycle. I've told you I'm a fucking
- 13:45Speaker 1: world class. If it was an Olympic sport, I'd be
- 13:47Speaker 1: a four time Olympic gold medalist. I'll be I'll be
- 13:51Speaker 1: in the fucking shitting Museum. There'd be a statue of
- 13:54Speaker 1: me and the foyer people be like, oh, there is
- 13:57Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan of shitting. They'd be like, you should now.
- 14:02Speaker 3: You now you remind you back into that should.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Michael Jordan of shitting? That could be I'm thinking that
- 14:11Speaker 1: should be today's time. But I feel like I might
- 14:14Speaker 1: get I might get contacted by his people. So for
- 14:23Speaker 1: you with training, I'm going to mention some stuff. So strength, power, speed,
- 14:31Speaker 1: cardiovascular fitness, balance, coordination, flexibility, reaction time. These are all
- 14:38Speaker 1: components of fitness, like, what are the things putting aside
- 14:42Speaker 1: boxing because you're not boxing anymore, but just in terms
- 14:45Speaker 1: of variables that you can train to create change what's
- 14:52Speaker 1: your priority.
- 14:55Speaker 3: Strength?
- 14:56Speaker 2: And so doctor Stacy seems that I had on One
- 15:02Speaker 2: of the protocols she talks about is sit training, sprint
- 15:06Speaker 2: interval training, and she talks about the benefits of that,
- 15:09Speaker 2: especially for women as we age, and so that is
- 15:12Speaker 2: really short bursts of really hard efforts in things. So
- 15:17Speaker 2: I've moved from going probably more hard endurance like I.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Would I would.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Call my I would say that I was doing an
- 15:28Speaker 2: interval training session, yet my intervals would just be rather
- 15:31Speaker 2: than rest, they would just be a different exercise. So
- 15:33Speaker 2: it would just be me doing high intensity explosive stuff
- 15:36Speaker 2: for a longer period of time. I've gone from that
- 15:39Speaker 2: into just going really hard short bursts and not necessarily
- 15:44Speaker 2: a full session of that. So do some strength and
- 15:46Speaker 2: do a little bit of that at the end.
- 15:48Speaker 1: So so I'm just going to give everyone an exam
- 15:54Speaker 1: So if people are going what could that look like. Firstly,
- 15:56Speaker 1: there are a range of different protocols for high intensity training,
- 16:00Speaker 1: but an example would be and again this is not
- 16:04Speaker 1: a recommendation, not a prescription, but I will give you
- 16:09Speaker 1: so a program that I used to do that would
- 16:13Speaker 1: be two minutes on an excise bike, just warming up.
- 16:18Speaker 1: So zero to two minutes is just steady state pedaling. Now,
- 16:22Speaker 1: you can either do this with a regular bike or
- 16:26Speaker 1: one of those what they call bionic bikes where you
- 16:28Speaker 1: use your arms as well, where you push and pull
- 16:30Speaker 1: and pedal. But or you could do it on a rower,
- 16:33Speaker 1: or you could do it on a bloody stare mart.
- 16:35Speaker 1: You could pretty much do it on it. You could
- 16:37Speaker 1: do it on a grind or an arm, but you
- 16:38Speaker 1: could do it on anything really. But the protocol would be,
- 16:41Speaker 1: say zero to two minutes, just steady state warming up,
- 16:45Speaker 1: and then once you get to the two minute mark.
- 16:48Speaker 1: And again this is not a recommendation. See your doctor,
- 16:50Speaker 1: get a clearance all of that shit. But the protocol
- 16:53Speaker 1: that I did was from the two minute mark to
- 16:56Speaker 1: two twenty, I would sprint. I mean sprint, like if
- 17:00Speaker 1: somebody said here's one thousand dollars, go harder, I couldn't, right,
- 17:05Speaker 1: So two minutes to two twenty, sprint the remainder of
- 17:08Speaker 1: the minute, which is forty seconds recover, right, And I
- 17:12Speaker 1: would do that up to the ten minute mark, So
- 17:15Speaker 1: that means I'm sprint recover, sprint recover for eight minutes,
- 17:18Speaker 1: and once I got to the ten minute mark, I
- 17:20Speaker 1: would wind it back and just slow pedal for another
- 17:23Speaker 1: two minutes. So the overall protocol is twelve minutes, and
- 17:27Speaker 1: of that twelve minutes, four is steady state pedaling, so
- 17:29Speaker 1: warming up and then recovering or warming down or cooling down.
- 17:33Speaker 1: But the middle, the eight minutes in the middle is
- 17:36Speaker 1: twenty on forty off. Now, if you think of eight
- 17:38Speaker 1: times twenty, that's only one hundred and sixty seconds of
- 17:42Speaker 1: hard work, which is not even three minutes. So in
- 17:45Speaker 1: that fourteen minute program, you're not even doing three minutes
- 17:49Speaker 1: of intense training. So that is an example. And as
- 17:52Speaker 1: you well, NotI if doing shit like that is super effective,
- 17:55Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, yeah, And when you do the twenty
- 18:00Speaker 1: you're like, how fucking long can twenty seconds take? And
- 18:03Speaker 1: then when you're doing the recovery, you're like, no, that's
- 18:06Speaker 1: not forty that was like fifteen.
- 18:10Speaker 2: And on those assault bikes, the ones with the arms
- 18:13Speaker 2: and legs, the worst thing ever, worst thing ever.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Exactly, and you feel like, I mean, time bends, time distorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 18:25Speaker 1: It's like the times where I've you made you and
- 18:28Speaker 1: some of the others that I train go, all right,
- 18:31Speaker 1: we're going to do We're just going to do a
- 18:33Speaker 1: body weight hang for ninety seconds, and you're like ninety seconds.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I'm not talking about chin ups, you know, I'm just
- 18:41Speaker 1: talking about just holding onto a bar and your legs
- 18:44Speaker 1: hanging and just hanging body weight ninety seconds feels like
- 18:48Speaker 1: about seven minutes.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Yep.
- 18:51Speaker 1: It just and you look up. I do it too,
- 18:54Speaker 1: and I look down and I'm like sixty seconds. I'm like, fuck,
- 18:58Speaker 1: I've got thirty seconds to go, and then twenty eight seconds.
- 19:02Speaker 1: I look twenty eight seconds later, I look down and
- 19:05Speaker 1: I'm only at sixty five. I'm like, how the fuck
- 19:08Speaker 1: did that take five seconds? You know that was like
- 19:11Speaker 1: twenty eight seconds. All right, So strength, what's your recommendation?
- 19:18Speaker 1: So for women who are going look, I really don't
- 19:21Speaker 1: do any strength training. So the benefits of strength training
- 19:25Speaker 1: among many other things. You know, there's a cognitive benefit.
- 19:28Speaker 1: We know that lifting weights makes our brain work better.
- 19:31Speaker 1: There's more science than that, but that's the snapshot. We
- 19:34Speaker 1: know it improves bone density, we know it improves muscle
- 19:38Speaker 1: mass or increases muscle mass. We know that it improves
- 19:41Speaker 1: day to day function because you can do shit what
- 19:44Speaker 1: we call activities of daily living, getting in and out
- 19:46Speaker 1: of a chair, get up and down a ladder. You know,
- 19:48Speaker 1: when we trip, we can recover. What's your recommendation on
- 19:53Speaker 1: complete novices who go I don't lift weights, but I
- 19:56Speaker 1: want to get started? How often and how much?
- 20:00Speaker 2: At least a couple of times a week at least
- 20:02Speaker 2: like I reckon. There's a big different. I reckon three
- 20:04Speaker 2: times a week is really good. Two times a week okay,
- 20:09Speaker 2: if that's all you can do, But you want to
- 20:10Speaker 2: be training hard, harder, and just getting someone to start,
- 20:18Speaker 2: like I would recommend, even if you can't afford a
- 20:22Speaker 2: personal trainer forever, have a personal trainer to start with,
- 20:25Speaker 2: so you know, you know, you can learn where you're
- 20:28Speaker 2: actually at, and you can learn how to safely lift
- 20:31Speaker 2: the weights and understand programming so that you've got an
- 20:35Speaker 2: idea of how to do it by yourself.
- 20:39Speaker 1: And if you can afford one thousand dollars an hour,
- 20:41Speaker 1: tips available.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Yep, straight hand for that.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Start saving. But also, you know the interesting thing about
- 20:51Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about intensity. So you
- 20:56Speaker 1: jump on the back of this if you want to.
- 20:58Speaker 1: So intensity is relative to the individual. So for me,
- 21:04Speaker 1: doing six gin ups is easy. For somebody else that
- 21:06Speaker 1: would be impossible. And that's not because I'm brilliant. That's
- 21:09Speaker 1: because I've been doing chin ups for fucking fifty years. Right,
- 21:12Speaker 1: So for TIF to run three k's in fifteen minutes
- 21:18Speaker 1: would be easy. For me to run fifteen three k's
- 21:21Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes would be real hard for me at
- 21:25Speaker 1: the moment, right, So it's not about the distance or
- 21:28Speaker 1: the time, or the weight, or the range of movement
- 21:32Speaker 1: or the volume, or it's about how that affects you
- 21:36Speaker 1: and how intense or hard that is for you. So
- 21:41Speaker 1: when we talk about working, you know, it's for my
- 21:44Speaker 1: old man at the moment, who's having some issues. God
- 21:47Speaker 1: bless Ronnie, walking two hundred meters is like someone else
- 21:52Speaker 1: running a marathon because he's got is in all sorts
- 21:55Speaker 1: at the moment. He's got some issues, right, But you know,
- 22:01Speaker 1: I'm trying to get him back because he's had a
- 22:03Speaker 1: couple of medical problems. But there might be you know,
- 22:06Speaker 1: six months from now he might walk two hundred meters easily,
- 22:10Speaker 1: but right now very difficult. So what we're always trying
- 22:14Speaker 1: to do is we're not true. We're not comparing ourselves
- 22:15Speaker 1: to anyone. We're not trying to do a set weight
- 22:17Speaker 1: or a set run and a set time. What we're
- 22:20Speaker 1: doing is we're paying attention to our body. And the
- 22:23Speaker 1: point of exercise, apart from having a bit of fun
- 22:26Speaker 1: and apart from cracking a sweat, the point of exercise
- 22:30Speaker 1: is to change your body in a way that you
- 22:32Speaker 1: want it to change, you know, all right, tell me
- 22:36Speaker 1: about I've never asked you this question. What about flexibility,
- 22:41Speaker 1: range of movement, stretching? How do you rate that? Is
- 22:44Speaker 1: that important for you? Not important for you?
- 22:48Speaker 2: It's important, however, doesn't get a good look in to
- 22:54Speaker 2: my training disclaimer though, I for a long time I
- 22:59Speaker 2: did ale of training called zoo training, which was body
- 23:02Speaker 2: weight training, and that was amazing for flexibility and mobility.
- 23:06Speaker 2: And that's so that like, I valued that a lot
- 23:09Speaker 2: because I realized that all of a sudden I had
- 23:12Speaker 2: great flexibility and mobility without happening to lay down and
- 23:15Speaker 2: stretch and do all the things. If you don't stretch
- 23:19Speaker 2: or include some sort of functional mobility training in your
- 23:24Speaker 2: in your exercise, then you pay the price. Like you
- 23:27Speaker 2: end up very tight, very sore, and essentially injured at
- 23:30Speaker 2: some point.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Do you work with any ladies who are perimenopausal or
- 23:35Speaker 1: menopause or postmenopause.
- 23:36Speaker 3: Well, for sure, yeah, most of most of my clients.
- 23:40Speaker 1: So what what adjustments or adaptations do you make for that?
- 23:47Speaker 1: Like what's your kind of and again, remember everyone, this
- 23:50Speaker 1: is we're just chatting. Neither of us the doctors, but
- 23:53Speaker 1: we're both trained to people. So how do you adapt
- 23:56Speaker 1: and adjust for that? And what do you have to
- 23:57Speaker 1: do differently?
- 23:59Speaker 2: You know what recurs has been recurring with a few
- 24:02Speaker 2: of my clients. Frozen shoulder is a thing that a
- 24:05Speaker 2: lot of women get when they're men are pausal, which
- 24:08Speaker 2: is which is interesting. I mean, I just I'm just
- 24:11Speaker 2: always with the age group, Like a lot of my
- 24:13Speaker 2: clients are sixty or high fifties to sixty plus, and
- 24:18Speaker 2: so we're always working around how the body's functioning, niggles, injuries,
- 24:25Speaker 2: and I have people I make sure that if people
- 24:28Speaker 2: have got niggles and injuries, they're going to see hopefully
- 24:31Speaker 2: the people I recommend, but they're going to get advice
- 24:34Speaker 2: on some prescripts, prescribed rehab or prehab, so that I
- 24:38Speaker 2: can work with that.
- 24:40Speaker 1: What's prehab. What's prehab.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Prehab is before you do yourself an injury.
- 24:46Speaker 1: It's injury avoidance, it's prevented it.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think. So I need to view a
- 24:55Speaker 1: guy years ago. Now, it was probably three years ago.
- 24:58Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I'm pre sure.
- 25:00Speaker 2: His name is Dean Morby Strength Guy, the powerlifted guy.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, correct, and he all he does. I don't
- 25:08Speaker 1: know what he does now, but he was a chiropractor
- 25:10Speaker 1: who went nah and just started training older people in powerlifting.
- 25:17Speaker 1: So they do other stuff, but primarily, well, what they
- 25:20Speaker 1: were doing primarily back then was deadlifts and Ben's press
- 25:23Speaker 1: and squat. And he had people who had never picked
- 25:27Speaker 1: up a weight at sixty or sixty five who were
- 25:31Speaker 1: deadlifting their own body weight and scuorting their own body
- 25:34Speaker 1: weight and bench pressing half body weight, which is bloody amazing.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Is bloody amazing. And so what I love about and
- 25:42Speaker 1: that people don't really get this. You know, it's like
- 25:46Speaker 1: that the body at any age, as long as the
- 25:49Speaker 1: person is alive and can move, the body can still adapt.
- 25:56Speaker 1: You know, I've told this story three times, but I'll
- 25:59Speaker 1: tell it again, just quickly So I started training a
- 26:02Speaker 1: really old guy years ago called Abraham. And when I
- 26:05Speaker 1: met him, he was in his eighties. He'd never been
- 26:07Speaker 1: in a gym, it'd never lifted weights, and he was
- 26:10Speaker 1: the dad of a friend of mine. And he couldn't
- 26:14Speaker 1: really walk. He could walk with a frame, but not well.
- 26:17Speaker 1: And anyway, he was just weak. He was just weak.
- 26:20Speaker 1: It wasn't that he had you know, of course he
- 26:22Speaker 1: had a bit of you know, he had muscle wasting,
- 26:25Speaker 1: od sycopenna or but he didn't have cancer, he didn't
- 26:28Speaker 1: have heart disease. He was just old and weak from
- 26:30Speaker 1: you know, doing not much and sitting. And I started
- 26:34Speaker 1: training him in his eighties and he got Now, when
- 26:37Speaker 1: he started, I tried to get him to bench press
- 26:40Speaker 1: a ten kilo or a twenty pound bar sextually nine kilos,
- 26:44Speaker 1: but whatever twenty pound bar, not a twenty kilo, a
- 26:47Speaker 1: twenty pound bar. He couldn't. He couldn't do it. He
- 26:50Speaker 1: couldn't do one rep when I finished training him. And
- 26:53Speaker 1: this doesn't sound like a lot, but consider someone in
- 26:56Speaker 1: their mid eighties. He was benching about ninety pounds, so
- 26:59Speaker 1: forty kilos. So we'd gone from can't through twenty to
- 27:02Speaker 1: doing ninety if he's starting weight was twenty, it was
- 27:06Speaker 1: four and a half of four hundred and fifty percent improvement.
- 27:09Speaker 1: He went from walking with a frame to walking with
- 27:12Speaker 1: a stick to walking with nothing, and his functional strength
- 27:17Speaker 1: went through the roof. But also, and all of that
- 27:20Speaker 1: was amazing, But what was fucking awesome was he was
- 27:23Speaker 1: so happy, so happy. He could get in and out
- 27:29Speaker 1: of a car, he could walk up the stairs because
- 27:31Speaker 1: we were on the first floor, he could walk up
- 27:33Speaker 1: the stairs to the gym. When he first started, I
- 27:36Speaker 1: had to borderline carry him up because he would take
- 27:39Speaker 1: one step. I would hold him and then another step,
- 27:41Speaker 1: and then we'd get three steps up and take a break.
- 27:44Speaker 1: But six months later he was just walking out of
- 27:47Speaker 1: the car, up the little ramp, up the stairs into
- 27:49Speaker 1: the gym, doing a workout, flirting with all the girls,
- 27:52Speaker 1: having a great time, hanging out, talking shit, high fiving.
- 27:56Speaker 1: It's fucking incredible, you know. And it's it's where people
- 28:01Speaker 1: would constantly people are saying to me, how old is he?
- 28:04Speaker 1: And I'm like, he's eighty six or whatever he was right,
- 28:07Speaker 1: and they're like, that's fucking amazing. I go, it isn't.
- 28:10Speaker 1: It isn't like it is great. But the problem is
- 28:13Speaker 1: that with a lot of people who are, you know,
- 28:17Speaker 1: into their seventies or eighties, nobody's really telling them, hey,
- 28:20Speaker 1: you know what you can. You're never going to run
- 28:23Speaker 1: a marathon, and you're not going to run one hundred
- 28:24Speaker 1: meters in ten seconds, you're not going to bench press
- 28:26Speaker 1: a house, but you can actually get stronger and more
- 28:31Speaker 1: functional and healthier and not a tiny bit, but maybe
- 28:35Speaker 1: a lot, depending on your starting point. So that's why
- 28:38Speaker 1: I get excited about people post fifty starting to think
- 28:43Speaker 1: about this stuff and more importantly, more importantly implement it.
- 28:47Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just opens the door, especially like if
- 28:51Speaker 2: you've got someone like that who doesn't who's never done
- 28:53Speaker 2: it before and doesn't think they can. It opens the
- 28:56Speaker 2: door psychologically on so much all of a sudden, life
- 29:01Speaker 2: doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to walk down the stairs,
- 29:06Speaker 2: and you're just a little bit bountier, and there's heaps
- 29:09Speaker 2: of stuff that just goes on in the back of
- 29:11Speaker 2: your mind. That's a metaphor for life. When you're lifting
- 29:16Speaker 2: heavy shit or getting punched in the face, or rolling
- 29:18Speaker 2: around a gym floor, laughing with other people for fun
- 29:21Speaker 2: and doing hard things.
- 29:24Speaker 1: And isn't it great when you get to a certain
- 29:26Speaker 1: age where a lot of people are pretty much maybe
- 29:29Speaker 1: not consciously but subconsciously going, well, I've well and truly peaked.
- 29:33Speaker 1: It's all down here from here. I just need to
- 29:35Speaker 1: try and manage the descent, you know. And you go,
- 29:39Speaker 1: what if it's not all downhill? What if you know,
- 29:42Speaker 1: maybe some things like my eyesight's not fucking brilliant, I'll
- 29:45Speaker 1: give you the tip, but my biceps are outstanding, So
- 29:49Speaker 1: it's not all bad news, you know, So swings and roundabouts,
- 29:55Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like my point is, of course,
- 30:00Speaker 1: of course there's going to be cognitive and physiological the client,
- 30:04Speaker 1: of course, but the rate of decline is somewhat, you know, manageable.
- 30:10Speaker 1: And there are certain things like if you're speaking of flexibility,
- 30:14Speaker 1: which we were a minute ago, Like if I did
- 30:17Speaker 1: a sit and reach test, now you know what that
- 30:19Speaker 1: is everyone, where you sit with your legs flat on
- 30:21Speaker 1: the floor and your toes out in front of you,
- 30:24Speaker 1: there's zero chance I could reach my toes, which is
- 30:27Speaker 1: not a good admission, but anyway, that's just my reality.
- 30:30Speaker 1: So let's say my potential is ten out of ten. Well,
- 30:33Speaker 1: right now, my function is a three out of ten
- 30:36Speaker 1: or a two out of ten from a flexibility point
- 30:38Speaker 1: of view. But here's the thing. If I spent the
- 30:40Speaker 1: next which I probably won't because fuck it, But if
- 30:42Speaker 1: I spent the next six months stretching properly like I should,
- 30:47Speaker 1: my flexibility would improve out of sight. It just goes
- 30:51Speaker 1: to show you that a sixty one year old male
- 30:53Speaker 1: who innately is not flexible can still improve flexibility and range,
- 30:58Speaker 1: movement and function a few other things.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Yeah, it.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Makes a good point around and I alluded to it before,
- 31:06Speaker 2: Like what do you want to get out of your training?
- 31:09Speaker 2: What's important to you? Like I think about that so
- 31:11Speaker 2: much now that there's not a sports specific I'm like,
- 31:14Speaker 2: all right, why am I doing? What are the different
- 31:18Speaker 2: styles of exercise I'm doing across the week? And what
- 31:21Speaker 2: are they all? What's the purpose of them all? What
- 31:23Speaker 2: do I want to get out of them? If I'm
- 31:25Speaker 2: doing runs, how far do I run and run? And
- 31:27Speaker 2: if I want to.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Get better at it?
- 31:29Speaker 2: Right now? Is my goal to get better with distance
- 31:32Speaker 2: or speed?
- 31:33Speaker 1: Like?
- 31:33Speaker 2: What do I want out of that? And what does
- 31:36Speaker 2: that choice? What does that mean for my energy and
- 31:39Speaker 2: my body and my function? If I choose that I
- 31:43Speaker 2: want to get better at running further, or I want
- 31:45Speaker 2: to get better at running faster. What's the outcome of that?
- 31:48Speaker 2: Like this so much comes into it.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking to a guy yesterday at Coffee
- 31:54Speaker 1: Central and he's fifty seven, so he's four years younger
- 31:57Speaker 1: than me, and we're talking about stuff. And I said
- 32:00Speaker 1: to him, and he's he would self admittedly, he's a
- 32:04Speaker 1: two out of ten, right, he's got heaps of work
- 32:06Speaker 1: to do. And I said, imagine, so he's fifty seven
- 32:11Speaker 1: and a half. I said, imagine if two and a
- 32:13Speaker 1: half years, right, you're sixty and on your sixtieth birthday,
- 32:17Speaker 1: you're way fucking better than you are today. He's like,
- 32:21Speaker 1: is that possible? I go, dude, that is probable. It's
- 32:24Speaker 1: not guaranteed. But if you did, and I reeled off
- 32:28Speaker 1: the things I said, if you did, like and all
- 32:32Speaker 1: of these adaptations ad just your body responding to doing
- 32:36Speaker 1: the right thing, like if you stop drinking seven days
- 32:39Speaker 1: a week, if you throw away the cigarettes, if you
- 32:42Speaker 1: start to sleep better, if you lift some weights, if
- 32:44Speaker 1: you do some cardiov And yes, there's quite a few
- 32:47Speaker 1: things on the to do list, but fucking hell, you
- 32:49Speaker 1: can't get another body champ. So let's not wait for
- 32:53Speaker 1: diabetes or the first heart attack. You know, sometimes the
- 32:56Speaker 1: first sign of a problem for people is death, So
- 32:59Speaker 1: let's not wait for that. And I mean, that's that's confronting,
- 33:02Speaker 1: but it's fucking true, you know. So and I had
- 33:07Speaker 1: this talk with him and I said, I know not,
- 33:11Speaker 1: I think not, I'm guessing, but I absolutely know that
- 33:15Speaker 1: you could be infinitely healthier and more functional and more
- 33:21Speaker 1: operational than you are now when you're sixty. And he
- 33:26Speaker 1: was pretty excited about that, you know. And that's that's great,
- 33:28Speaker 1: that's one thing. But does that mean he's going to
- 33:30Speaker 1: do the work. Absolutely not. And so I think as
- 33:32Speaker 1: we start to wind up, because You've got to go
- 33:34Speaker 1: and I've got to go. But like thinking about, you know,
- 33:37Speaker 1: you're forty one, nearly forty two, what do I want
- 33:40Speaker 1: to look for your function like when I'm forty five?
- 33:42Speaker 1: That's not a bad question, you know. And it's like
- 33:46Speaker 1: same question I go with my what do I want
- 33:48Speaker 1: the podcast to be in a year? What do I
- 33:49Speaker 1: want to okay in a year from now? And I've
- 33:52Speaker 1: finished my study and I'm doing this, what do I
- 33:54Speaker 1: want to be doing okay? And what do I want
- 33:56Speaker 1: my life to look like on my body or my business,
- 33:58Speaker 1: on my brand. Cool. Now, if you've got to reverse
- 34:02Speaker 1: engineer that, Craig, what do you need to do now
- 34:04Speaker 1: to make that one year idea a one year reality?
- 34:08Speaker 1: And for that guy, the two and a half year
- 34:10Speaker 1: idea of having this sixty year old, strong, fit, functional body.
- 34:14Speaker 1: All right, well now you're fifty seven and a half.
- 34:16Speaker 1: What needs to happen about now to make that outcome,
- 34:20Speaker 1: that highly desirable outcome likely? You know? And it's I mean,
- 34:25Speaker 1: at some stage it's always going to come down to
- 34:28Speaker 1: whether or not we're going to do the work, you know.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your protocol around getting people to shift their
- 34:35Speaker 2: identity into Because.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Picking a goal.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Saying in two years time, I want to look like this,
- 34:43Speaker 2: Like picking a goal that far ahead and then doing
- 34:46Speaker 2: the work is like the whole the journey is a destination.
- 34:49Speaker 2: How did you manage getting that shift like you did
- 34:52Speaker 2: it for thousands of people for a long time? Yes,
- 34:55Speaker 2: what landed for you?
- 34:57Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that's a really good question. And I
- 34:59Speaker 1: think that for me, just specific to what you said,
- 35:02Speaker 1: it's not so for me. It's not so much about
- 35:04Speaker 1: how I look. Of course, I've got an ego, and
- 35:07Speaker 1: of course I don't want to look bad, but it's
- 35:10Speaker 1: way more about how I work, like a health and
- 35:12Speaker 1: function and wellness of course, but I think for a
- 35:16Speaker 1: lot of people, rather than setting goals and achieving goals,
- 35:21Speaker 1: which is not the worst operating system, but rather thinking
- 35:24Speaker 1: about like everyone who's listening. If I could independently talk
- 35:29Speaker 1: to everyone individually, I should say and say, do you
- 35:33Speaker 1: want to be as healthy as you can with as
- 35:35Speaker 1: good behaviors and habits as you can embrace for as
- 35:38Speaker 1: long as possible. They're all going to say yes, Like
- 35:40Speaker 1: nobody wants to be in good like that dude doesn't
- 35:43Speaker 1: want to be in good shape in two and a
- 35:44Speaker 1: half years and then out of shape, like he wants
- 35:47Speaker 1: to be in shape when he's sixty and sixty two
- 35:49Speaker 1: and sixty five and seventy and seventy five and eighty. Right.
- 35:53Speaker 1: So it's good to have goals, and it's good to
- 35:55Speaker 1: have structure and accountability and process, but what we really
- 35:58Speaker 1: want to do over time is we want to create
- 36:01Speaker 1: a new default setting. So this is just how we
- 36:04Speaker 1: are now. Like you don't need you don't need motivation,
- 36:07Speaker 1: discipline or self control to lift weights three days a
- 36:11Speaker 1: week or four days a week, you don't need, you know,
- 36:14Speaker 1: there might be the other day where you feel like
- 36:15Speaker 1: dog shit and you don't want to go for a run.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Maybe you need a bit of discipline then. But generally speaking,
- 36:21Speaker 1: you and I are very hardwired that working out, lifting weights,
- 36:26Speaker 1: doing cardio is analogous to cleaning our teeth or having
- 36:29Speaker 1: a shower, or putting petrol in the car or buying food.
- 36:33Speaker 1: It's just a thing that we do. That's a part
- 36:36Speaker 1: of our life, you know. And when that when we
- 36:40Speaker 1: can create habits and behaviors that support our best self,
- 36:46Speaker 1: that's that's the goal. Where we're not now relying on
- 36:50Speaker 1: structure and focus and accountability and motivation and discipline. And
- 36:55Speaker 1: because you can't do that forever. So yeah, for me,
- 36:58Speaker 1: it's about designing a life and then implementing that design
- 37:04Speaker 1: so that that actually just becomes you know, who and
- 37:07Speaker 1: how we are. And so I've said this many times,
- 37:11Speaker 1: but when when usually it's blokes come up to me
- 37:14Speaker 1: at corporate gigs and say, oh, how do you stay
- 37:16Speaker 1: so bloody disciplined to do that?
- 37:18Speaker 3: And how do you?
- 37:19Speaker 1: And I go, I don't like, really, I'm not I'm disciplined.
- 37:23Speaker 1: The only thing I have to be disciplined with at
- 37:25Speaker 1: the moment is my research, because it's it's hard and
- 37:29Speaker 1: I don't love it, but that's I don't hate it either,
- 37:32Speaker 1: and I value it and I'm grateful for what I'm doing.
- 37:36Speaker 1: But that requires discipline and self control, right But it's
- 37:39Speaker 1: not something I'm going to do forever. But in terms
- 37:41Speaker 1: of the other the health variables, we're talking about food
- 37:44Speaker 1: and sleep and exercise, and that's very hardwired for me.
- 37:48Speaker 1: It's just like it would be harder for me, in fact,
- 37:52Speaker 1: if someone said, here's a million dollars, you've got to
- 37:56Speaker 1: eat shit for a year and not exercise. I would go,
- 37:58Speaker 1: not a fucking chance. I'll go keep you a million dollars.
- 38:02Speaker 1: There's not a chance, zero chance, you know. So anyway,
- 38:07Speaker 1: you enjoy your trip to Taz, Thank you. What are
- 38:10Speaker 1: you going to do there? Just quickly just blow.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Out the one hundred and one candles on my grandfather's cake.
- 38:17Speaker 1: That's so exciting. Speak Why didn't we talk about him
- 38:21Speaker 1: one hundred and one.
- 38:22Speaker 3: I'm going to have him on the podcast when I'm
- 38:24Speaker 3: down there. I'm going to record with him.
- 38:26Speaker 1: That's that's so good. Yeah, I love that.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Well, what do you call him pop grandad? What do
- 38:34Speaker 1: you call him?
- 38:34Speaker 3: Call him pop pop?
- 38:36Speaker 1: Who? What's his What do I call him?
- 38:37Speaker 3: Poppy cook?
- 38:39Speaker 1: Poppy cook? Yeah, not poppy cock poppy cook. And I
- 38:43Speaker 1: don't want you speaking any poppy cock poppy cook because
- 38:46Speaker 1: I'll listen to the fucking episode.
- 38:48Speaker 3: So keep it real, bro, I have to call it
- 38:51Speaker 3: poppy cock with poppy Cook.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Yeah, chatting poppy cock with poppy Cook. And by the way,
- 38:55Speaker 1: poppy Cook, get in the gym, bro, I can start
- 38:58Speaker 1: some squats alright, have a good trip, Cookie, Thanks Hops.