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Former Prince Andrew Faces Questions Over £750,000 Payment From Turkish Businesswoman (11/9/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to hop across
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  Speaker 1: the pond and we're going to check in on the
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  Speaker 1: Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. And that's because this
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  Speaker 1: idiot has now been summoned to give evidence as a
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  Speaker 1: witness in a fraud case. And the case has to
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  Speaker 1: do with that Swiss ski chalet that Prince Andrew borrowed
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  Speaker 1: or obtained around a million dollars from somebody who's considered
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  Speaker 1: a fraudster. And now that fraudster is on trial and
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  Speaker 1: Andrew is being called to give some testimony about how
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  Speaker 1: he obtained that funding. So just another problem for the
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  Speaker 1: royal family and their favorite Uncle Touchy, Prince Andrew. So
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  Speaker 1: today we have an article from Newsweek and the headline.
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  Speaker 1: Ex-Prince Andrew to get his first taste of court testimony.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Jack Royston. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has
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  Speaker 1: been served a summons to give evidence as a witness
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  Speaker 1: over how he obtained around $ 1 million of funding for
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  Speaker 1: his former Swiss ski chalet after becoming the first royal
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  Speaker 1: to be issued a witness summons in more than 150 years. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's just breaking all the barriers, huh? Talk about
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  Speaker 1: glass ceilings being cracked. Every single bit of embarrassment that
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  Speaker 1: you can imagine pretty much, for the royal family? Prince
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  Speaker 1: Andrews had a taste. And every single time you turn around,
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  Speaker 1: there seems to be more controversy surrounding this idiot. A
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  Speaker 1: Turkish woman, Nebahat Izbulun, is suing her financial advisor, Selman Turk,
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  Speaker 1: accusing him of mismanaging her money for her own personal gain,
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  Speaker 1: which he denies. Oh, I'm sure that nothing occurred. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that everything was above board. And nobody got scammed, right? Because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Prince Andrew, he would never keep company with
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  Speaker 1: a fraudster. He'd never keep company with somebody who's a dirtbag, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who does this guy think he's kidding? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt that he knew where this money
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  Speaker 1: came from and he didn't care and he took it anyway. Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's Prince Andrew's motto. OPM, baby. Other people's money.
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  Speaker 1: One aspect of a complicated case involves Isbelin claiming that
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  Speaker 1: Turk told her she needed to give former Prince Andrew
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  Speaker 1: the money as payment for help arranging her Turkish passport.
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  Speaker 1: Turk disputes the account, arguing that she believed Mountbatten-Windsor would
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  Speaker 1: use his contacts in Turkey to help her husband, who
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  Speaker 1: was in prison there. His contacts in Turkey? What's Prince
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  Speaker 1: Andrew walking into the jail that we saw at Midnight
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  Speaker 1: Express and pulling people out of jail in Turkey? Is
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  Speaker 1: that what's happening? The fucking Mother Teresa of the incarcerated?
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  Speaker 1: Who are they kidding? If you're giving Prince Andrew money
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  Speaker 1: and thinking he's going to Turkey to get people out
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  Speaker 1: of jail for you, you got another thing coming. The
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  Speaker 1: guy would be lucky if he was able to find
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  Speaker 1: a kebab. A high court judge is granted Turk permission
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  Speaker 1: to call Mountbatten-Windsor as a witness to give his own
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  Speaker 1: account of how he came to receive the money, which
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  Speaker 1: he used to fund a Swiss ski chalet. Mountbatten-Windsor has
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  Speaker 1: not been accused in the case. He's facing a separate
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  Speaker 1: investigation by Thames Valley Police in England over allegations of
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  Speaker 1: misconduct in public office, which he denies. Yeah, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: done any of this. Everybody's crazy. Everybody's just picking on
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  Speaker 1: good old Prince Andrew. Meanwhile, the truth is, this dumb
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  Speaker 1: fuck puts himself in these situations and deserves everything that
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  Speaker 1: he gets. Andrew Lowney, author of biography entitled told Newsweek,
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  Speaker 1: this is very bad news for the monarchy. Even if
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was being paid 750,000 pounds, around a million dollars
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  Speaker 1: to talk to people in Turkey, that would be a
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  Speaker 1: breach of his responsibilities. I think this is huge and
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  Speaker 1: it could be one of the bits that unravels Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll play a part. And we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this fraudster previously. Maybe I'll repost those episodes. But this
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  Speaker 1: situation for Andrew, Gets more precarious by the day. This
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  Speaker 1: dude is teetering on the edge of the abyss. And
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  Speaker 1: at this point, in my opinion, it's not if, it's
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  Speaker 1: when he falls off that ledge. Because the downfall, the
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  Speaker 1: real downfall, is coming. The trial's due to begin in November,
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  Speaker 1: and Mountbatten-Windsor is evidence in mid-December. And obviously, we'll be
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  Speaker 1: covering it. Maybe not to the level that we cover
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  Speaker 1: some of the other trials. considering I probably won't have
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  Speaker 1: access to the, you know, transcripts and paperwork, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But when it comes to reviews and recaps, we'll go
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  Speaker 1: through those and we'll see what's going on because it's
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  Speaker 1: pertinent to the Prince Andrew story overall, right? And that
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  Speaker 1: means it's pertinent to our story. So we'll definitely keep
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  Speaker 1: following along. Newsweek approached Mountbatten-Windsor's legal team by email for comment.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time since 1870 that a British royal
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  Speaker 1: family member has been issued a court summons, and if
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  Speaker 1: his testimony goes ahead, it will expose Mountbatten-Windsor to cross-examination
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  Speaker 1: by a lawyer, under oath, and a public forum for
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  Speaker 1: the first time. And that's significant, right? I mean, not
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  Speaker 1: something you see every day, obviously. First time since 1870?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of a big deal. And the fact that it's
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  Speaker 1: Prince Andrew shines a big spotlight on it. Because we're
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  Speaker 1: not talking about somebody that's being, you know, wrongfully maligned
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  Speaker 1: or being viciously attacked for no reason. This man deserves
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  Speaker 1: every bit of scorn and every bit of disgust that's
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  Speaker 1: thrown his way. And the only regret that I have
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  Speaker 1: is that Virginia is not here to see it. The
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  Speaker 1: last time he answered questions in any kind of public
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  Speaker 1: forum was his November 2019 BBC Newsnight interview that precipitated
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  Speaker 1: the end of his career as a working royal. That
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  Speaker 1: sit-down was about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein and the
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  Speaker 1: allegations that he had sex with Virginia Roberts when she
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  Speaker 1: was a 17-year-old sex trafficking victim of Epstein in 2001,
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  Speaker 1: which he has always denied. Well, he can deny it
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  Speaker 1: all he wants. I talked to Virginia directly about it,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe everything she said, especially when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Andrew. You don't remember those kinds of details. You
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  Speaker 1: don't remember everything about a situation that never occurred. And then,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you have Andrew's behavior in the aftermath. So
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  Speaker 1: for me, there's no doubt. And as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 1: this dude should be buried underneath a jail. The current
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  Speaker 1: high court case is not related to Epstein in any way. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it could open the door. And remember, that's a dangerous
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  Speaker 1: proposition for people like Andrew. People with actual skeletons, Dangerous shit.
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  Speaker 1: While the case does not relate to Epstein, it does
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  Speaker 1: relate to another subject long debated in the UK media,
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  Speaker 1: where Mountbatten-Windsor's money came from. Well, we know. The guy
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  Speaker 1: never met a scumbag he didn't want to associate with,
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  Speaker 1: and people paid for access. I mean, you don't need
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  Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes on the case. A high court ruling by
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  Speaker 1: Judge Adam Johnson, seen by Newsweek, states that Isabelle N.,
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  Speaker 1: accused Turk of saying she needed to make a purported gift,
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  Speaker 1: of 750,000 pounds, by the way of payment for assistance,
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  Speaker 1: the then Duke of York had provided in relation to
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  Speaker 1: Miss Isbelin's Turkish passport. Miss Isbelin alleges this representation was false,
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  Speaker 1: as Mr. Turk well knew at the time. And consequently,
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  Speaker 1: he was dishonest in making it. So bro is promising?
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was going to help her out with her passport?
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  Speaker 1: How could Andrew have that kind of pull? Well, we
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  Speaker 1: know he does. But the question is how? Who in
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  Speaker 1: the home office or whatever their immigration office is made
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  Speaker 1: that decision? Who is going to help him out? Because
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  Speaker 1: Andrew can't do it himself. He can go to somebody.
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  Speaker 1: He can ask somebody. But who is that somebody? And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a big problem when it comes to corruption, right?
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  Speaker 1: You have these low-level bureaucrats that are willing to play ball.
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  Speaker 1: And unless we hold those people accountable, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear shit about, oh, systemic issues. The systemic issues
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  Speaker 1: are because the people that you have in these positions
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be in these positions. Pretty fucking simple. Turk denied
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  Speaker 1: any dishonesty and according to the judgment says, Isbelin made
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  Speaker 1: her gift to the then Duke of York on her
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  Speaker 1: own initiative and for her own reasons. Well, look, I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea who's telling the truth and who's not.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I do know though, is Andrew ain't turning
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  Speaker 1: down a bag. Not a chance. In summary, he alleges
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  Speaker 1: that by the 15th of November of 2019, Mrs. Blin
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  Speaker 1: had developed the perception that the Duke of York, through
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  Speaker 1: his connections in Turkey, might be able to assist her
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  Speaker 1: husband in prison there. Johnson wrote, in order, as she
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  Speaker 1: saw it, to create goodwill with the Duke, she arranged
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  Speaker 1: to make the gift referred to. That was nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with any assistance regarding her Turkish passport. Johnson noted
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  Speaker 1: that Isbelin and Turk have tried to cast doubt on
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  Speaker 1: each other's reliability as witnesses. It'll be up to the
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  Speaker 1: court to determine the facts, so I don't know enough
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  Speaker 1: about either of those people to give you a solid
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  Speaker 1: breakdown one way or the other. But Prince Andrew being involved?
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  Speaker 1: My guess is there was criminality. Turk alleged in his
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  Speaker 1: own witness statements that Mountbatten-Windsor and Sarah Ferguson, the royal's ex-wife,
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  Speaker 1: joined him at a dinner with Isbelin, at which her
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  Speaker 1: husband's imprisonment was discussed, along with a possible gift to
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  Speaker 1: Princess Beatrice, Mountbatten-Windsor's daughter. It's a family affair, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Give my daughter a few bucks and maybe I'll give
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  Speaker 1: you some access. You want to come sit on the
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  Speaker 1: Queen's throne? Get the Ghislaine Maxwell package? That'll cost you
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  Speaker 1: 500 grand. At dinner, Miss Isbelin indicated she was intending
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  Speaker 1: to make a small gift for Princess Beatrice's forthcoming wedding,
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  Speaker 1: according to Turk's evidence summarized in Johnson's judgment. The Duke
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  Speaker 1: offered certain information that he indicated he had obtained about Mr. Isbelin,
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  Speaker 1: including as to the specific nature of of the allegations
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  Speaker 1: against him. So how is Andrew so locked in, to
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  Speaker 1: Turkish politics? Can somebody answer that question please? According to Turk, Mountbatten-Windsor,
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  Speaker 1: later indicated no gift was expected, but Isbelin, gave the
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  Speaker 1: money anyway, in November of 2019. At a meeting with
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  Speaker 1: the Duke, four or five days later, Miss Isbelin, called Mr. Turk. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Turk says, he passed his phone to the Duke, who
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  Speaker 1: thanked Miss Isbelin, for her gift. Johnson wrote in his summary,
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  Speaker 1: following that, Mr. Turk says he had further meetings with
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  Speaker 1: the Duke at which they discussed Mr. Isbellin's case. So
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  Speaker 1: who knows, right? Did Andrew say that he could help out? Probably.
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  Speaker 1: Did he get paid for some kind of nonsense? Probably.
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  Speaker 1: Will the court be able to prove that? Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: That's the real question, right? The court is also considering
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  Speaker 1: claims of an additional loan of more than £ 768, 000, also
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  Speaker 1: said to have been made in connection with the ski chalet.
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  Speaker 1: At one stage, Ms. Isbelin had sought to sue Mountbatten-Windsor,
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  Speaker 1: but the pair settled out of court and produced a
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  Speaker 1: set of agreed facts noting that none of the recipients
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  Speaker 1: ever communicated with Ms. Isbelin directly. All of the recipients dealt,
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  Speaker 1: so far as relevant, only with Mr. Turk. Alright, so
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  Speaker 1: if I had to make a guess... Mr. Turk is cooked. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Turk is now a turkey, because he's fucked. All fingers
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  Speaker 1: pointing to him, and if you think Prince Andrew is
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  Speaker 1: going to go down, you got another thing coming. The
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  Speaker 1: judgment noted that a witness served with a witness summons
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  Speaker 1: may apply to have it set aside or varied, and
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  Speaker 1: one option for the former prince is to try to
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  Speaker 1: submit a written statement in place of answering questions in court.
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  Speaker 1: Alan Maidment, consultant of the head of regulatory at MSB Solicitors,
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  Speaker 1: told Newsweek by email, the prospect of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor given
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  Speaker 1: evidence before the high court will undoubtedly attract significant public
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  Speaker 1: and media interest, particularly given the allegations of civil fraud
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  Speaker 1: at the center of the proceedings. Well, considering what he's
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  Speaker 1: being accused of, this is highly relevant. If this guy's
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  Speaker 1: engaging in this kind of fraud here, do you think
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't doing it with his pal Jeffrey Epstein? However,
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  Speaker 1: his former royal status does not place him above the
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  Speaker 1: law or prevent him from being called as a witness
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  Speaker 1: and questioned about his involvement in the matters before the court.
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  Speaker 1: Questioning would be focused solely on the issues relevant to
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  Speaker 1: the case and would not stray into some of the
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  Speaker 1: other more high-profile allegations against him and his friendship with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein will be off the table. While many may be
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  Speaker 1: hoping for a revealing insight into the former prince's affairs,
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  Speaker 1: The court will be focused on the facts relevant to
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  Speaker 1: the case, rather than wider questions surrounding his personal life,
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  Speaker 1: Maidman said. The judge will have the power to restrict
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  Speaker 1: questioning to matters directly relevant to the proceedings, and there
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  Speaker 1: may also be efforts to limit his evidence to a
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  Speaker 1: written witness statement. It remains to be seen whether his
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  Speaker 1: evidence will raise further questions about his judgment and actions,
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  Speaker 1: but one thing is certain, taking the witness stand would
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  Speaker 1: be an uncomfortable prospect for the former prince. Well, there's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt, but maybe it'll be a dry run for him,
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  Speaker 1: because I think worse is on the way. Johnson's judgment
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  Speaker 1: gives a detailed account of what Turk's attorney wants to
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  Speaker 1: ask Mountbatten-Windsor, including evidence that Mr. Turk discussed the issue
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  Speaker 1: of Ms. Isbelin's imprisonment with the Duke at various points
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  Speaker 1: from October 2019 onwards. Evidence that the then-Duke attended a
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  Speaker 1: dinner at which Ms. Isbelin's situation was discussed. Evidence that
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  Speaker 1: discussions about Mr. Isbelin continued after the dinner. Evidence that
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  Speaker 1: the Duke thanked Miss Isbelin on the telephone for the
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  Speaker 1: gifts she had made, i.e. the $ 750, 000 paid on the
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  Speaker 1: 15th of November 2019. Evidence that there was a discussion
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  Speaker 1: with the then-Duke about a loan from Miss Isbelin to
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  Speaker 1: be used in connection with the Swiss Chalet. Evidence that Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Mountbatten-Windsor was aware from Mr. Turk that Ms. Isbelin was
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  Speaker 1: extremely eager to make both the gift and the loan. Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: there would be questions about what the then-Duke in fact
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  Speaker 1: did to obtain information about or to assist Ms. Isbelin
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  Speaker 1: in Turkey, and his knowledge or belief as to Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Isbelin's expectations, involvement, and control over transactions referenced above. We're
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  Speaker 1: pleased that permission has been granted, as it's important that
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  Speaker 1: the court has a full and evidential picture as possible.
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  Speaker 1: We understand this to be the first time since the
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  Speaker 1: then Prince of Wales, the future Edward VII, in the
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  Speaker 1: Mordaunt divorce case in 70, 1870, that a member of
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  Speaker 1: the royal family will be subject to a witness summons.
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  Speaker 1: Turk's attorney at Jane Solicitors welcomed the summons in an
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  Speaker 1: online statement. The judge concluded that the proposed evidence that Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Turk wishes to adduce from Mr. Mountbatten-Windsor appears relevant to
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  Speaker 1: allegations of dishonesty advanced against Mr. Turk. And that, in circumstances,
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  Speaker 1: it would be unfair and unjust to prevent him from
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  Speaker 1: seeking to adduce that evidence at trial. Alright folks, so
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  Speaker 1: there's where things stand as far as Prince Andrew and
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  Speaker 1: the situation with the alleged Turkish fraudster. And like usual,
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  Speaker 1: when we have some more to add, we'll get that
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  Speaker 1: added to the catalog. All the information that goes with
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