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Diamond Dreams Miami Up & In Episode 120 - Talking Golf with Robert de Paz aka Coach Robby · Diamond Dreams Miami Up & In

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  Episode 120 of up and in and it's
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  a nice day today man finally poolside woke up this morning there was a nice
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  breeze doesn't feel like summer anymore although right here where the sun's
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  hitting me it was a little a little hot but that was a silly question when you asked officer backyard,
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  let's go to backyard yeah the weather is on a
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  beautiful day like today absolutely outstanding weather
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  even when it's chilly you know we throw on the jacket we
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  could come out here and to mention amando has his
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  yard beautifully manicured it seems like
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  the landscaper has been here recently yeah the
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  clusia's got uh beautiful they're beautiful everything's clean and in about
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  i just need some rocks it's okay over there in about 25 minutes the bird's gonna
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  come and take his dive into the hot tub. Oh, yeah. Happens all the time. Happens every time.
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  So he'll be here soon. He or she, we don't know.
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  Yeah. Yeah, and the good thing is I don't have that heated, so he'll,
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  you know, the birds always come and cool off. There you go. They come to cool off. Drink some water.
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  He hangs to hang out there. You know? Then, you know, then we go for a swim,
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  taking all the bacteria.
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  There's no need to have that. There's no need to have that heat on right now.
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  Yeah, but today, today we're going to talk baseball as usual.
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  We're going to talk football as usual because the Dolphins, you know,
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  they look pretty good the other day, but we'll- They gave you just enough.
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  We'll dive into that a little more.
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  But today we're going to talk some golf. Can't wait. We have a very special
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  guest today, Robert DePas, who heads up Golf Academy USA.
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  Well, he's an instructor there, Golf Academy USA.
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  DePas Golf, that's his business. Gives a lot of privates.
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  And he heads up the Belen team, the kids. Wolverines. Yeah. So you two have
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  a lot in common. Absolutely, man.
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  A bunch of kids but but Robert welcome to Up and In.
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  How's it going guys thank you so much for having me really looking forward to
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  seeing what this is all about.
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  Yeah, so you played baseball before because you told me you played through somewhere in high school.
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  Junior years when I stopped playing baseball. When did you start?
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  How did you come to love baseball? And then when did you play?
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  And talk a little bit about your baseball journey before we talk about golf.
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  Baseball all started because, you know, grandfather came from Cuba.
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  You know, that was their sport back out there. Like, he loved it.
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  It was a pitcher, shortstop.
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  When he got to New York, he always told me the story about how he made the team
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  and all that good stuff. And I was like, you know what, let's play baseball.
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  I like the team atmosphere. I'd always done it since T-ball.
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  You know, I always picture myself being there and make it into the major leagues and stuff like that.
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  But growing up in Miami, you find out pretty quick, you know,
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  if you're not one of the top dogs out there, you know, you got to go find something else to do.
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  And thankfully I had always played golf for fun and it was something my dad
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  did as well. He was a real estate guy. So he always played with his buddies and stuff like that.
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  He had introduced me to baseball and he'd also introduced me to golf,
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  but definitely just talk a little bit more about baseball.
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  I mean, I love the team aspect of it. I loved going out with my friends,
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  getting to play on the baseball diamond every weekend, you know,
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  practices during the week.
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  It was a good environment. I wasn't really one of those kids that liked to stay
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  indoors. I wanted to be outside and kind of just enjoyed it.
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  Didn't play much golf when I was younger.
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  I didn't really play much golf till probably my freshman year at Columbus.
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  That's when I really was like, you know what? Like, let's go practice.
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  Let's go play golf and let's see what I could do.
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  And I was fortunate enough to where my sophomore year, I continued playing golf.
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  I played baseball a little bit less.
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  And it's where I'm at now. Now I play no baseball. Uh, I think about it,
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  I watch it all the time and stuff like that.
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  But, uh, golf's my full-time gig. Now I play golf tournaments.
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  I run the golf academy. I have my own business now where I give golf lessons.
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  I do mobile lessons and it's, it's fun.
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  I enjoy where I'm at right now. I think I want to ask you, but that pivot's kind of simple, right?
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  Like it's not that difficult of a pivot to go from a baseball player to a full-time golfer.
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  You know what I'm saying? I think the pivot is pretty simple there. How was it for you?
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  Because I know Anderson just did it, right? It was pretty good for him.
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  I mean, he's still hitting the center of the ball.
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  He's doing great, you know? So how's that pivot compared to non-hand-eye coordination
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  sports? You know what I mean? Yeah, I know.
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  It's that hand-eye coordination that carries over. Right. You just got to get
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  used to, you know, you're hitting a ball now that doesn't move.
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  It's a ball that stays still.
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  And somehow it's harder. Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say.
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  Sometimes, you know, it's humbling to figure out that the ball that moves might
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  be a little easier to hit than the golf ball that it doesn't.
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  So, but it's funny, you know, especially like with Anderson and stuff like that,
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  seeing how he started and how it was a little bit frustrating for him at the beginning.
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  Cause you know, you would just swing the baseball bat, make contact and he would
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  see the ball fly and golf, he would make a swing, you know, make contact with
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  the ball and it would go five feet in front of him and it'd be like,
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  coach, like, why is that happening?
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  You know, it's like, oh, cause in golf, you know, every centimeter,
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  every, every place where you're hitting that on the ball, it makes a huge difference.
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  You know, that's the big difference that I see is it's more baseball is more,
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  you know, strength and, you know, you have to have IQ.
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  I told Armando as well. I said, you know, the good thing is, is that.
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  For his son, if he ever wants to pivot back to baseball, at least he was involved
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  in a sport with the hand-eye coordination, with everything that's going to make
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  the eyes zoom in on something.
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  So when I was at FIU, Armando, we were together there.
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  You know, we had Mondays off. I don't know if you remember, but we would play
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  the weekends, and they had to give us Mondays off.
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  Well, we would go play golf Mondays, a group of us, Michael Mendes,
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  and, you know, whoever was playing golf at the time.
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  And, you know, it never affected us. You know, I always kind of was able to
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  adjust myself from a golf swing to a baseball swing.
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  And you know there's a reason why a lot
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  of baseball players do it you know and it's because of that hand-eye
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  coordination challenge you know and and the golf's
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  challenging for me you know i've been playing it for a long time and i love
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  putting i love to putt i love short game you know i can stand there and maybe
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  hit it straight once in a while but it's it's tough to figure out on your own
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  you know what i mean so i'm definitely gonna be reaching out here for some people i love the,
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  But no, yeah, that's the big difference, you know, is that in baseball,
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  you could use your frustration, you could use your aggression to make you better,
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  you know, throw the ball harder, swing harder, you know, run faster.
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  In golf, the second you get upset, that's it, you're going backwards,
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  you're going the wrong way.
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  No, and like, you know, within baseball, when that ball's coming at you,
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  Armando, and you know, we have to make a million adjustments where you're in
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  control of where the ball's going to go.
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  Oh, we're here, the ball's not
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  moving, so everything has to do with your movements. A hundred percent.
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  So your mistakes are magnified times. It's frustrating, man.
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  You sit there, you feel good. You get there, you wake up, you get there early.
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  You know, my brother, my brother-in-law, and you have your coffee,
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  you're ready to go. And the first tee box, you hit a left.
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  Jesus Christ. You know what I mean?
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  Damn, man. I mean, that tends to happen a lot, you know, because when I've played, that's the thing.
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  You know, you keep on slicing even though you're, why do, I guess from a technical
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  standpoint, why does that happen?
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  I mean, that's like for a baseball player. I mean, as a baseball player,
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  you're taught to deliver the bat. You're not taught to rotate.
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  In golf, you have to release the club. You have to rotate it through impact.
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  That's how you get that straight shot.
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  That's baseball player's biggest miss is a slice. Whether you're a lefty or a righty, it's a slice.
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  For as much baseball as we played, I'm assuming that takes time to correct.
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  Oh, 100%. You know what I'm saying?
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  You know, and one of the biggest things for me, and we've spoken about in a
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  podcast, is toning down the brain for golf, man.
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  Like, how do you, sometimes I get in there and I'm squeezing that grip and I'm
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  like, man, I just want to, you know, I forget everything that I just want to crank.
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  It's hard to tone down. That was my biggest adjustment. Yeah,
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  definitely 100%. Getting that tone down, you know, Like I said,
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  in baseball, that would fuel me, the aggression.
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  You just saw somebody throw a fastball right by you. You're like,
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  no, I'm going to sit on this next fastball. I'm going to take it over the fence.
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  Golf, you can't do that. You swing and you put it in the trees.
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  You can't get upset that you're in the trees because you're going to stay in the trees.
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  You got to calm down, walk there, take your adjustments. And you're trying to go pro, right?
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  100%. Yeah, I still play professionally. I play golf tournaments.
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  I actually have one coming up next week, November 5th at Fountains Country Club
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  in Lake Worth. So I'm looking forward to that.
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  I'm playing on the mini tours right now. and just continue chasing the dream,
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  man. Don't give up on yourself. Never. Golf's something that you could continue
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  doing forever, you know, so...
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  Doesn't matter if I'm running the academy, giving golf lessons,
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  I could always still have, find time to go out there, travel and play golf.
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  Are those mini tours, like you play two days, four days? Because, you know, PGA is four.
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  A hundred percent. How do you make a cut? It's a mix of three different days.
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  So you could play one day events, two day events or three day events.
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  On three day events, there is a cut after the second day.
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  On two day events, you play both days. On one day, you sign up for that one day and you play.
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  It's mostly just guys that are, you know, they are playing on that Corn Fairy
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  tour. They are playing on the PGA Tour when they're just trying to stay loose.
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  That's, that's all golf is, is, is once you're in a groove, you're trying to
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  ride that groove as long as you can, because it's golf at the end of the day,
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  you know, you're, you're not going to be up there for so long.
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  There's going to be one little mental cue that you might lose or one feel that
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  you might not, not feel anymore. And you got to go back and practice and work
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  with your coach and try to figure it out again. It's all golf.
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  It's an up and down rollercoaster. You know, that's, it's just like life.
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  That's what pulls you back, right? It's what pulls you back.
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  Sometimes those good rounds are the ones that, you know, are like,
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  oh, I could take a couple of days off.
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  I just played great, you know, and you play that bad round. You're like,
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  oh, I'm going to go hit some range balls right now. I'm going to go practice
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  tomorrow and stuff like that.
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  As you were mentioning, you know, as you're still, you know,
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  you're still trying to go pro, you're playing, but, you know,
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  you run Golf Academy, you have your Depaz Golf, which you give privates.
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  With the Golf Academy, it's, you know, a lot of young kids. And I know it requires,
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  I mean, Coach Robbie's very patient, you know, with the kids.
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  It's like Coach Mike with the kids.
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  You know, talk about, you know, coaching young kids because a lot of,
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  you know, a lot of them come in.
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  They've never swung a golf club, you know, and dude, when I'm there,
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  one of the things I'm very, you know, kids are all over the place.
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  I'm always looking to see what kid is like kind of, you know.
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  Maybe came up, you know, wanting to mess around that day, whatever,
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  when they're swinging that golf club and there's kids right behind them,
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  I'm always in a panic, but that's why you got to have those safety lines and
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  you keep it in a safe environment.
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  And to be honest, our model isn't really, we don't have an age limit.
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  Like we've had kids as young as three years old in our program,
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  but it's all about safety.
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  You know, we've had kids that are a little bit older and they can't follow the
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  rules and stay on their mat or follow the instructions of the coach.
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  And we've had to say, look, we, we don't think the group setting is,
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  is something that's going to benefit your, your child.
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  Like maybe we do private, it's kind of get them caught up to speed with golf
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  so that he's not, cause it's not really the student, you know,
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  sometimes it's that they're just not at the same level as everybody else.
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  And the second they see that, they kind of like their switch turns off.
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  They're like, oh man, like it's, it's pressure kids today. There's a million
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  emotions inside them. A million emotions that you can't, you can't control, you can't read. Yeah.
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  A hundred percent. At the end of the day, they're kids. Kids are always going to be kids.
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  But yeah, it's nice to see the coaching aspect, like what you're seeing,
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  what you've seen a lot of.
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  Like this week we had a new student start. He's five years old and he just started
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  playing golf and he was having so much fun, you know, and it's just...
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  Being patient, you're going to repeat yourself. You got to just,
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  you know, get the same feels down and it's repetition.
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  Golf at the end of the day is throw the golf balls out, repeat it,
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  do the same motion, become robotic.
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  And how did you become involved with Golf Academy USA in that aspect of lessons?
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  I grew up going to the first tee when I did start my golf training.
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  I went to the first tee that was at International Lynx Maurice.
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  Now, unfortunately, they are going to- No longer there. Yeah, no longer there.
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  Rest in peace, Maurice. Rest in peace. It's Freedom Park, Miami I grew up playing
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  baseball right next door
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  That's where I played baseball too I hit my first home run on the small field
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  there On the 150 fence, so it was nice Good memories there, the baseball field's
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  still there So thankfully they didn't take that out Two of them, two are,
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  Two are under Attack,
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  Well I mean the same,
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  Bulldozer hasn't moved for three months So I guess they're waiting for turf
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  or whatever Two of them are going to get turf and then the other two So the
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  one you hit a home run on right now is not existing.
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  It's got a big pile in the middle. Oh man. But the memories are there.
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  It's all good. It's all good. But, but yeah, so, so I started there at the first tee.
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  I started my journey there. I was working with a, with a, with a coach there
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  and really, really enjoyed it. Loved it. I didn't think I was going to be a
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  golf instructor. I can tell you that.
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  I thought that I was, you know, if, if golf didn't work out for me,
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  I was going to go to school and, and I was going to do something in business
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  and I didn't think I was going to be where I'm at right now.
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  So it's funny how things work out, but doing both now and doing sports and I have my own business.
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  So that's, that's a big thing, you know, especially being, being 26 right now
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  and being able to say, I do, you know, I run a golf academy and I have a business is a big thing, but,
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  Yeah, just basically how I started with the academy was I was at the first team
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  at Melreis, went through the program there.
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  When I graduated, I started volunteering, giving classes.
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  And Carlos had my boss, Carlos Rodriguez. He's the owner of Golf Academy USA.
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  He had his kids that went to school there, Adrian and Lorenzo.
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  And it was awesome. That's how we made the connection.
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  And then he had talked about going and doing a program over at Killian.
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  And I would go over there and help him facilitate the practices.
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  And, you know, because he was the lead coach at the time and I was just his
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  assistant, you know, he would set up the program.
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  I would go out there, help him out. And I was like, man, like,
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  this is something that, that I enjoy.
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  Like, this is something that, you know, I, I didn't think there was a future
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  in it, but if I enjoy it, I have this much fun doing it, you know,
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  and I'm not going to sit behind a computer all day.
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  I'd rather be outside and, and, you know, teach the next generation a skill
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  that could benefit them, you know, not just a physical skill,
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  but a mental skill that'll help them, you know, in school, help them off the
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  golf course, which is the biggest thing.
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  Like our motto is building golfers for life. You know, not all these kids are
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  going to be on the PJ tour, on the LPGA tour, European tour.
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  They're not going to be professionals at it, but you know, if one of my students
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  could go out there and, and, you know, come back and say, Hey,
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  I, I got this business deal because I was able to play four hours of golf with
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  this guy and he was very impressed and he liked my demeanor.
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  It matters. It all matters, you know, it all, it all matters. You know, um.
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  You touched on something there and you know, when I, when I got released from
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  playing ball, I had done my resume and stuff like that, and I was going to submit
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  it to all the pro teams here in Florida, you know, the Panthers,
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  the Dolphins, the Heat, you know, everybody.
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  And I said, you know, but before I do that, I'm going to give this baseball
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  thing a shot. Dude, and here we are 20, you know, here we are 21 years later.
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  You know what I'm saying? Kind of with that same thing as you,
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  you know, it's like, man, let me stay in the sun. Let me stay outside.
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  You know, like me, let me stay in my shorts. Let me stay comfortable.
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  And you're able to run a business out of it and, and, you know,
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  go for it and grow it. You know what I mean? So, so that's good that you did that, man.
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  And I'm sure your freedom allows you to be here on a Thursday.
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  Thursday morning. You know what I mean? I enjoy it. And that freedom has value.
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  You know what I mean? So that's a good decision you made, bro.
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  A little entrepreneurship to me is huge, man. So congrats on that.
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  Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. And just keep moving forward.
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  Keep going. That's the big thing.
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  Coaching kids versus coaching adults. What, you know, aside from,
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  I was going to say, aside from the patience, but sometimes you got to be patient with the adults as well.
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  You have to be patient with the adults, man. Because sometimes you get the adults
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  that know more than you. They already know. They know the swing. They saw it.
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  They're the ones that signed up for the lesson, but they were on Instagram all night.
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  Or on YouTube and they know they're fixed and they just want you to stand there
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  and tell them if they're doing it.
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  And, and, you know, it's, it's the same thing. It's patience.
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  If that's what the student wants, say, that's what I'm here for.
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  Oh, what's the drill that you saw? You want me to teach you?
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  Oh, okay. Yeah, for sure. We'll perfect it and stuff like that.
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  And that's what I'm there at the end of the day.
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  They're the ones paying for the time. And there's students that we come though.
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  Like I can, same thing. I'm at Killian Green.
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  So a lot of my, my, my clientele is beginner golfers. So it's all teaching them
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  how to hold the club, how to swing, how to, how to get the body feeling.
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  It's teaching them new motor skills. You know, that's the big, big thing.
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  That patience is the, is the common theme. You need to have patience.
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  Kids are more laughing, fun, you know, and enjoyable.
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  You could get them distracted really quick if it's not going good.
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  Like, oh, you know, at least it's still going far. You know what the problem
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  is? You know what the problem is with the adult?
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  That at the end of the day, when we look at it, we think it's easy.
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  They think it's super easy. Right. And it's frustrating. We think it's easy.
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  And then I tell people all the time, yeah, man, you know, you got your instructor,
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  you do your thing, but the way you hit the ball on the range is one thing.
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  Right. But then when reality hits through, you get to that first tee box and
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  you got that water to the left and you got that driving range net to the right and you got to hit it.
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  Golf is hard, man. Golf's hard. And I think that adults that get into it late
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  or like you said, the quick fixes, I think they underestimate it, bro.
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  I think it's underestimated big time by adults. And like you said,
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  the kids are going to learn it.
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  It's a new skill for them. It's like the baseball. They end up,
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  they'll get in line. They'll figure it out.
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  You know? 100%. But adults, it's just the brain, bro. the brain just just they
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  give up a lot quicker it's a lot yeah much much quicker much much quicker,
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  Then you have adults that stick with it and they remember the tough times and that.
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  And then when they start hitting the ball up in the air and they start being
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  able to score and, oh, I made a bogey, I made a par.
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  It feels good. It's rewarding. It's definitely a rewarding game.
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  Again, going back to it, it teaches
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  you a lot of stuff that'll benefit you off the golf course as well.
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  With Anderson and the mistake aspect of it, you hit a bad shot,
• 18:01
  you don't hit it well, you get frustrated.
• 18:03
  And I remember we were watching the, I think it was like the,
• 18:05
  the tour championship and, you know, one of the golfers hits a professional golfer.
• 18:11
  Like when this guy was like on the leaderboard and he hits it into one of these
• 18:17
  makeshift buildings that they had, people are there drinking and eating and stuff.
• 18:21
  They're all like ducking from,
• 18:23
  you know, for, they didn't want to get hit by the, by the, by the ball.
• 18:27
  And, and, and the golfer had that one, you know, that one really bad hole.
• 18:31
  He ends up winning the whole thing and that was a Fleetwood
• 18:35
  and you know it was it's
• 18:39
  hum imagine it's humbling for for a
• 18:42
  professional this guy you know Tommy Fleetwood
• 18:46
  hadn't had never won a major or a tournament
• 18:48
  never won a tournament in the PGA Tour on the PGA Tour yeah which
• 18:51
  is and he would finish second I don't know
• 18:54
  how many times he finished in second place like nine ten times
• 18:57
  maybe more you know and he finally finally wins one
• 19:00
  and a couple weeks before that he had done that you know right he was in
• 19:03
  the lead and yeah coming down the stretch he couldn't finish and somebody else
• 19:05
  came back from from behind and won the tournament so to be able to do it a couple
• 19:09
  weeks later and like what you're saying still handle all that adversity yep
• 19:12
  is a big big big change you know and then you know McElroy and never won the
• 19:16
  masters finally wins it and then you know then he plays a bunch of tournaments
• 19:19
  and he's you know you're looking at the leaderboard Or you're like,
• 19:22
  I don't even see them on here.
• 19:25
  You know? So that's happening to the pros. Yeah.
• 19:28
  You know, the good pros. Not, you know, like the best of the best. The cream of the crop.
• 19:33
  And everybody else, you know? So it's, it is humbling.
• 19:37
  It's, it's a humbling sport, but you know, with, with the adults,
• 19:41
  you know, we, we discussed that with, with, with the kids, you know,
• 19:44
  you talked about you, you, you point a couple of things and get them distracted.
• 19:48
  But how, how do you get them out of that funk?
• 19:51
  Cause the other day I saw Anderson on, you know, operation 36,
• 19:54
  which, you know, I can let Robbie talk,
• 19:56
  talk a little bit more about it, but you know that's you
• 19:58
  graduate to the next level you got to shoot under 36 or
• 20:02
  under and this was Anderson's you know
• 20:04
  fourth fifth time doing it from from the first level the 25 yards and he was
• 20:10
  doing at the beginning the beginning he was doing fantastic after like the third
• 20:14
  hole I think he was feeling himself and he's like he's like man like I'm doing
• 20:19
  great you know and he was and I go hey hey, you still got a long time to go.
• 20:24
  You know, he was like, he was walking with a little strut.
• 20:28
  Then he hits a couple bad holes and, you know, that's it. I'm not going to do
• 20:33
  it. I'm going to fail again.
• 20:36
  And it got to the point and I, you know, I was like looking around because,
• 20:40
  you know, I wanted to make sure, like, you know, no parent.
• 20:43
  But, you know, I don't want parents. I mean, not that I yelled at him,
• 20:45
  but like he was talking at mid, I just like grabbed him by the chin and I go, hey, be positive.
• 20:52
  You're gonna do good no but I got you know he kept he was keeping score in his head and,
• 20:58
  Stop keeping score. Stop keeping score. Isn't that amazing?
• 21:03
  Just let me, let me. If you could learn that at a young age,
• 21:05
  it's the same thing for everybody.
• 21:07
  Let me tell you. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. That's funny, bro. That's a good story.
• 21:11
  So I'm looking in the last three holes. I'm like, shit, he needs to do three on each of these.
• 21:17
  He's not passing. He's not passing. And you're firm on that. Yeah.
• 21:23
  So that's what I love about golf, right?
• 21:26
  Yes, I coach. I teach the skill and stuff of that, but when it comes to,
• 21:30
  it's not pass or fail, you know, it's, it's you versus the golf course.
• 21:33
  And the rule is it's 36 or better.
• 21:36
  If you shoot 37, I'm saying, great round. You almost did it.
• 21:39
  But next time, next month, when you come back to the tournament,
• 21:41
  you're, you're going to go play from 20. It's awesome.
• 21:43
  So, you know, so when he, when he goes first one, you know, Anna and I are looking
• 21:48
  at each other, like, please, please. Yeah. The second one did it in three. And we're like,
• 21:53
  Okay, you know? And the last one, like, he put, like, you know,
• 21:58
  he chipped it really close.
• 22:00
  He puts the second one, and I'm like, it's going to go in.
• 22:04
  And it stayed, like, right there. So then, like, he taps it,
• 22:06
  and he goes, I didn't make it. And I'm like, made it.
• 22:09
  Oh. It was like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, huge, huge relief. Huge relief.
• 22:13
  Awesome, man. But I had to tell him, like, you know, stop.
• 22:16
  Stop with the score. So now what happens in the next level? Stop being negative.
• 22:19
  So what happens when a, what do you tell a kid?
• 22:23
  As a coach, when you get into that funk, because for me as a parent,
• 22:29
  I'm getting a little frustrated and I had to like dial it in and talk to him. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
• 22:35
  It's hard. It's hard. It's hard because the best thing to do is take yourself
• 22:39
  out of that situation. And what you have to do with everything basically is
• 22:42
  you take yourself out of the situation and you just got to find the positives.
• 22:45
  And keep swinging. Keep swinging. That's not the thing. Yeah.
• 22:49
  Don't strike a lot in baseball. Keep swinging. Keep swinging.
• 22:51
  Keep swinging. Keep swinging. Keep going. Don't give up.
• 22:54
  Don't give up and don't feed into the situation that you're in,
• 22:57
  correct? Because he could have easily, like what had happened to him before,
• 23:00
  we had always talked about it.
• 23:01
  It was never his skill that held him back. It was always the mental side of it.
• 23:05
  The second he'd have that one bogey or back-to-back bogeys, he was like,
• 23:09
  that's it. I'm not passing.
• 23:10
  I want to go home. So what happens now? Now they do it from farther back and
• 23:13
  they got to score. So it keeps moving them back. The tee box.
• 23:17
  The yardages keep moving back. So they'll go back now how many yards for Anderson?
• 23:21
  It goes to 50 yards now. So he plays nine. additional 50 yards.
• 23:24
  No. So now he, instead of playing nine holes from 25 yards, he'll play nine holes from 50 yards.
• 23:28
  So Operation 36 is, it's a program that teaches the game from the green backwards.
• 23:33
  I understand it. So it gets the kids close to the green. So then after that, you go 75.
• 23:38
  Oh, a hundred. A hundred. From a hundred, you go to 150.
• 23:41
  150, 200. And then from after 200, you start playing from the tee boxes.
• 23:45
  So red tees, the yellow tees of their senior tees, white tees,
• 23:49
  blue tees. So the idea is, is that if you start these kids off, you know, and.
• 23:54
  Third grade, fourth grade, by the time they're starting to get to their freshman
• 23:57
  year, they're at least, you know, by the, hopefully by the red white tees and
• 24:01
  they already know how to shoot even par because the skill is built up,
• 24:04
  right? The golf ball doesn't move.
• 24:06
  The swing is the same. I like that. You're doing it backwards.
• 24:09
  That's pretty cool. It's a great program.
• 24:11
  It's a, it's a PGA backed program. It's operation, it's called Operation 36.
• 24:15
  You can look that up and it's, it's, it's a great way to learn the game because
• 24:18
  the biggest thing that happens to baseball players, right? How do they learn
• 24:21
  the game? Oh, I just need my driver.
• 24:23
  They go to the range, bucket of balls, boom, boom, boom, driver, driver, driver.
• 24:26
  And that long club just instills bad habits. You know, your face is always going
• 24:30
  to be wide open. You're not trying to release it.
• 24:32
  But if you could teach a kid or you could teach an adult, my beginner adult
• 24:36
  lessons, same format, you know, you don't tell them that you don't tell them,
• 24:39
  Oh, I'm only teaching you from 25 yards.
• 24:41
  You know, you, you give them the bigger picture, but the idea is you're following
• 24:44
  the same thing. You're teaching them smaller swings.
• 24:46
  So at the body, you know, it's like You're, you're just, you're,
• 24:48
  you're, you're chiseling away at a rock, you know, and you're trying to make
• 24:50
  this sculpture at the end of it where you're teaching them these small swings
• 24:54
  and, you know, a week from now you teach them when, you know,
• 24:56
  okay, instead of going waist to waist, let's go chest to chest.
• 24:58
  Okay. Now let's get the hands above the head. Are you big on video at a young age or?
• 25:04
  Huge, huge. You, you have to, you have to see what you're doing.
• 25:06
  You have to visually see what you're doing.
• 25:08
  And young age, I would say.
• 25:11
  If you're under seven, let them swing. Right. Let them swing.
• 25:15
  I'm sure. I don't know if that's the same. I know I'm with you. Let them swing.
• 25:19
  Let their body develop because their body really hasn't developed.
• 25:21
  Let them build the motor skill, what it is with the golf swing.
• 25:23
  You teach them, you know, like what we, why do L swings, right?
• 25:26
  So Y swings are chips, L swings are full swings. You just give them that concept
• 25:30
  and let them have at it, you know, let them develop their swing and then you
• 25:34
  give them fine little, little tips here and there.
• 25:36
  Like, okay, after L drop your elbow in the pocket or, you know,
• 25:40
  L feel your chest turn more, whatever you see that stands out,
• 25:43
  but you're not really trying to be technical at that young age.
• 25:46
  After seven, you want to start recording, you know, cause you want them,
• 25:48
  they start to understand a little bit more.
• 25:50
  Those kids that have been playing golf for a little bit longer,
• 25:52
  they start to understand a little bit more about what the game is.
• 25:55
  And you know, with those younger kids, you let them draw on the iPad a little
• 25:58
  bit, you know, Oh, let me put this line on my golf swing.
• 26:01
  I mean, like with Anderson, he likes to change the colors and see different
• 26:04
  lines on his swing and different points.
• 26:06
  And that's what he pictures now,
• 26:08
  right? It's golf's a very, you got to picture it, picture it to do it.
• 26:11
  And then once you, you know, you start getting into that middle school age,
• 26:14
  then you start, you know, using the technology, you start getting on track,
• 26:17
  man, you start, you know,
• 26:19
  doing flow, you know, are there any up and coming golf prospects here in Miami-Dade
• 26:25
  County that we shouldn't have a name for or no, like anybody that you think can have a chance.
• 26:31
  So we know Nick, the Cuban golfer, I am in North Carolina, he's doing some,
• 26:36
  uh, junior PGA's and stuff like that.
• 26:37
  Right. Yeah. You know, Andy hasn't played up there.
• 26:41
  Locked and loaded. So one thing I'm always going to be with myself,
• 26:44
  right? So I'm always going to say me, right? I'm going to go out there.
• 26:47
  I'm going to keep playing, keep chasing and stuff like that.
• 26:49
  You never know what could happen.
• 26:51
  I would really say my, my, uh, Carlos's son, Lorenzo, he's, he's got good potential.
• 26:55
  He just went over to, to wake forest and he's playing good out there.
• 26:58
  It's a couple of his, of his buddies that are, that grew up down here as well.
• 27:01
  But, but golf has definitely become something that kids nowadays are saying they want to play.
• 27:05
  It's not like, oh, I want to play baseball. I want to play basketball. I want to play football.
• 27:09
  And then, oh yeah, I'll go play golf on the side. Like, oh yeah,
• 27:13
  let's, let's, I'll go with grandpa. I'll do that. And no, now kids are like,
• 27:16
  no, I, I want to play golf.
• 27:18
  I want it like Columbus, my, my. alma mater. It's cool, bro. It's awesome.
• 27:21
  They have two kids that are, one's a sophomore and one's a freshman and they're
• 27:25
  probably the best on the team right now.
• 27:28
  And they play as the one and two and they're consistently shooting maybe on
• 27:31
  their worst day, two over par and on their best days, they're shooting two, three under.
• 27:34
  He hasn't gotten a cease and desist yet from Columbus because he's coaching at Belen.
• 27:38
  No, it's all good. They haven't sent a letter yet saying, oh,
• 27:43
  you're an alumni here. You can't coach there. No.
• 27:45
  No, it's all good. It's all good. It's awesome. Yeah, so talk about,
• 27:47
  you know, coaching at Belen. So coaching at Belen is a lot of fun because again,
• 27:52
  like, like I just finished, I went to Columbus.
• 27:53
  I graduated 2017 from Christopher Columbus High School. I played on the golf
• 27:56
  team there. Graduated a long time after Wheaton.
• 27:59
  20 years, 20 years after me, bro. I'm 97, bro. You're 97? 98. 98. Okay. Nice.
• 28:06
  2017. Young, young guy, young guy. Jesus. But, uh, yeah, no.
• 28:10
  So, so I went to Columbus all four years. I loved it. I was like,
• 28:13
  yeah, like this is, this is the, this is the brotherhood.
• 28:15
  You know, this is, this is what it's all about. When I graduated,
• 28:17
  I'm in all the alumni group chats and we meet up, we have voters club, cigar club.
• 28:22
  There's a whole bunch of stuff that you could do with Columbus alumni.
• 28:25
  And then with Carlos, his son, Lorenzo and Adrian, or Adrian's the older one,
• 28:29
  they went to Belen and he took over the program because they were there and
• 28:34
  he wanted to, you know, really start to build up the program, make it into what it was.
• 28:38
  Like his son won the state as an individual his junior year.
• 28:41
  So it was really, it turned into a really, really good program.
• 28:44
  Now the kids this week, they just finished winning their district.
• 28:48
  How I got into Belen was through Golf Academy, was because of Carlos.
• 28:51
  But now we have this great thing where, you know, we have all these kids that
• 28:55
  even if they don't make the varsity team, we're still giving them an opportunity
• 28:58
  to go out there and practice and play and learn the game.
• 29:01
  Like what we were saying earlier, it's not about being on the PGA.
• 29:04
  It's not about being on the LPGA or being this professional athlete, this big guy in golf.
• 29:07
  It's just about, you know, you're learning another game that gets you out of
• 29:10
  the house, gets you in nature, teaches you mental, you know,
• 29:14
  mental skill that's really, really going to be important in work and school and all that good stuff.
• 29:19
  And you know, it's, you never know if you're a business guy,
• 29:21
  it's going to help you close a business meeting.
• 29:23
  I play with a bunch of doctors and they love, you know, they'll,
• 29:26
  they'll, they'll be on an all
• 29:27
  night shift and they'll hit me up in the morning. Hey, let's go play golf.
• 29:29
  And it's like, weren't you just working last night? So yeah,
• 29:31
  but I got to play. I got, I got to, I got to go play before I go home.
• 29:34
  And we go out there, we play a quick nine holes and they head home.
• 29:37
  Cause it's probably why they're doing it. Had a stressful day at work and they
• 29:40
  weren't ready to go home yet.
• 29:41
  They needed to go and they could press. Give me your top five courses in Miami, bro.
• 29:45
  Top five courses in Miami. So, I mean, can I say ones that are close?
• 29:50
  I mean, that sucks. No, let's go within a 10-mile radius of where we are right
• 29:54
  now. No, I mean, I loved Mel Reese.
• 29:56
  That's why I was saying that. Mel Reese was definitely one of the best golf
• 29:58
  courses in Miami, but I mean, right now, I would say Durao is always up there.
• 30:02
  You got to put there, they have four great 18-hole golf courses there that are
• 30:06
  always in good condition, have great practice facilities, great you know clubhouse
• 30:10
  it's it's it's the place to be if you can be there.
• 30:13
  And on top of that, I mean. Miccosuke just did a bunch of renovations too.
• 30:17
  They just did a lot of stuff there. And they're continuing.
• 30:19
  They're putting in a lot of money in there and stuff like that.
• 30:21
  They have a good membership. I haven't been there recently.
• 30:23
  So I can't really say too much about what has changed and stuff like that.
• 30:27
  I haven't really seen it. I was there during the construction.
• 30:29
  I would say Miami Lakes is on the come up. They're there. So everybody that's
• 30:33
  at the managing group that was at Melrese, they moved over to Miami Lakes.
• 30:38
  Does the Par 3. The Shula one. Shula. Yeah, Don Shula. The Par 3 still exists.
• 30:42
  Just the part three. No, I don't think so.
• 30:45
  I don't think they opened that up. That was a nice nighttime little part three.
• 30:48
  They just finished doing a full renovation on the golf course.
• 30:51
  And I mean, from what I've seen, it's in great, great shape and everybody's
• 30:55
  comparing it to Melrese Greens.
• 30:56
  So I'm looking forward to get out there and play that.
• 30:59
  So I'm sure that's going to be definitely on my top five list once I could get out there.
• 31:02
  But so my pastime is to go out fishing and stuff like that, be out on the boat.
• 31:06
  So I love golf courses that are close to the water.
• 31:08
  Nice. So I like going out playing Crandon, you play Miami Beach,
• 31:12
  Normandy, like those, those are fun courses to play out in Miami.
• 31:15
  Nice, man. You got a boat?
• 31:17
  I do. What do you got? So I got a boat down in the Keys. I got a Key West 26.3 family sportsman.
• 31:23
  Nice, man. It's good. It gets the job done. Oh, yeah. It's the job done. It's perfect.
• 31:26
  Before we move on to the World Series, you know, you mentioned about kids joining,
• 31:31
  you know, and wanting to play golf.
• 31:33
  Because, you know, it's always baseball, football, basketball.
• 31:36
  That's like the main three. Golf was an old man's sport.
• 31:40
  And I remember, you know, one day, you know, Anderson gets home from baseball
• 31:46
  practice and he, you know, like I had already sensed that he wanted to make
• 31:51
  a change, but I love baseball. Of course, yeah, yeah.
• 31:55
  And, you know, I had already started telling Mike, I'm like,
• 31:58
  Mike, I don't know, I don't know how much longer he wants to play,
• 32:00
  you know, where, oh, you know, we kept him in the in-house, you know, that game.
• 32:04
  That tournament, which they went undefeated and won a championship, by the way.
• 32:09
  And one day he gets home and he's like, I don't want to play baseball anymore.
• 32:13
  I'm like, well, you're going to finish the season. Okay. But I don't want to play anymore.
• 32:16
  And I go, you have to play a sport. I'm like, so my nephew plays basketball and football as well.
• 32:22
  So I go, do you want to play flag? Do you want to play basketball?
• 32:24
  He goes, Papa, I feel it in my soul that I need to play golf. And I go, golf?
• 32:30
  Like, where did that come from? And he's like, no, you know,
• 32:33
  you've been watching SportsCenter in the mornings and I'm watching them playing the Masters.
• 32:38
  That was like Masters week. So this was like on Friday. But,
• 32:42
  you know, they had been talking about the Masters all week and the first rounds and all that.
• 32:47
  And I go, Bobby, if you want to play golf, you will play golf.
• 32:51
  So that same day I called Andy Rodriguez.
• 32:54
  We spoke. And then the next day I was talking to Coach Robbie and he's been playing since.
• 32:58
  The rest is history. So, you know, so what, what is there one thing or multiple
• 33:04
  things that are leading kids now to, to the golf course or what,
• 33:08
  what do you, what do you see?
• 33:09
  What, what, what shift? Because it's easy to say like, you know,
• 33:13
  a guy that plays golf all the time. I don't play golf all the time.
• 33:16
  Oh, yeah. You see a lot of that parents that have never played golf before having their kids play golf.
• 33:21
  And it's because of the opportunity that the game creates, the game creates
• 33:24
  a lot of opportunity, especially the biggest thing that's known is,
• 33:28
  is like girls sports. It's like girls golf, there's so many scholarships to go unused.
• 33:32
  So a lot of these parents are like, you know what? It's an opportunity for them
• 33:34
  to go get a great education, you know, for Anderson, right? If he wants to continue
• 33:37
  playing golf and growing, it's.
• 33:39
  Now that you mentioned the girl thing, the LPGA is successful,
• 33:44
  right? Oh, very successful.
• 33:46
  Like they don't have the issues that the WNBA has. No, no. Like that,
• 33:49
  right? So they did. They did for a little bit.
• 33:51
  At some point, right? At some point they did, but now I would say they're,
• 33:54
  they're, they're, it's hard. It's hard to, because again, the,
• 33:58
  the male, the male professional sport is just, it draws so much attention, so much sponsorship.
• 34:04
  The women's sport really doesn't, you know, it, it does, it has its sponsors,
• 34:08
  it has its, it's big crowd, but that's like, I feel like that's where the divide
• 34:11
  is on, on the pay gap. Right.
• 34:13
  But I, the, the girls now for winning, I think they're making,
• 34:16
  I, I, again, I don't know a hundred percent, but I think they're making upwards
• 34:19
  of, of a million dollars. I've never seen anything.
• 34:22
  It's, it's, it's good. You know, it's, it's good money. There was one day during
• 34:25
  one of the, um, one of the practices and I'm seeing, you know,
• 34:30
  the boys hit, you know, they're with Anderson and I'm seeing the girls hit.
• 34:34
  And I'm like, man, like these girls could swing. Like there's a couple of girls
• 34:39
  there that are like really good.
• 34:42
  And Robbie's sister, Coach Jackie, she's a coach there at the academy too.
• 34:47
  And I turned to her and I'm like, is it just me or the girls better than the boys?
• 34:52
  And she told me one thing. She goes, Armando, the girls pick it up.
• 34:57
  If I tell them, hey, you need to do this, they will do it right away and continue doing it.
• 35:02
  The boys it'll take and i see it with anderson you
• 35:06
  know like hey do this okay next wing
• 35:08
  does it wrong and it's like it's the mental ah girls
• 35:12
  even at a young age it's the mental aspect yeah 100 we're three guys here mike
• 35:18
  has two girls we're mature so i have two daughters they're mature and you tell
• 35:21
  them something and they're gonna sit there and repeat it repeat repeat it a
• 35:24
  boy you tell them something a guy you're gonna tell them something and it's
• 35:26
  like okay yeah it worked but let me try this. I mean, yeah, coach doesn't know.
• 35:30
  Yeah. I mean, let me tinker with this. I mean, with the girls softball,
• 35:33
  it's, I mean, it's right on the money because I've also noticed that like in
• 35:39
  the girls softball program that we have, their lines are straighter.
• 35:42
  Their practices are quieter.
• 35:43
  Yes. Because they don't like, they don't like to be called out.
• 35:47
  The girls, the boys, you scream at him. You tell him a couple of things that
• 35:51
  that's going to get, you know, whatever, bro.
• 35:52
  But the girls individually, they don't like it.
• 35:56
  They don't like that you scream at them or that you tell them to get in line.
• 35:59
  So they're like, they're like little, little soldiers, bro. They're great.
• 36:03
  What's the ratio in golf that you see in practice or in your academy with boys to girls?
• 36:07
  Cause we have, you know, we only have like 15 girls on the softball program.
• 36:11
  The baseball program is huge. So how is it in golf?
• 36:13
  Do you see like a lot of. So in golf, there actually is girl,
• 36:16
  like girls golf programs where it's, you go to clinics and it's just girls, right?
• 36:20
  Where we've tried to start ladies programs where you go and it's,
• 36:22
  it's a comfortable environment.
• 36:24
  There's no guys that are judging them or anything like that.
• 36:26
  Right now in the academy, we have gotten a good flow of girls coming through
• 36:30
  where I'd say right now in the, in the academy itself, the clinic this month, I have six girls.
• 36:36
  So that's really good. But in the academy as a whole, in the entire year,
• 36:39
  I'd say I've had probably about 20 girls come through the program.
• 36:41
  That at least they're signing up for, you know, once a month.
• 36:44
  Once every other month. So it's good.
• 36:46
  It's, it's, it's, it's, it's fun to see not just boys playing and seeing girls
• 36:50
  come into it. And it's a sport that they could play.
• 36:53
  It's good for you as a coach too, because it, you know, you gotta coach the
• 36:57
  girls a little bit different than you gotta coach the boys. 100%.
• 36:59
  Yeah. And, and they're girls.
• 37:01
  And that's why like having my sister out there, having coach Jackie helping
• 37:04
  me out, it makes the girls feel comfortable as well. That it's, yeah.
• 37:07
  So even like the way we talk to them is, is different.
• 37:10
  Oh, 100%. I'll give you an example. Like, for example, they have their first
• 37:13
  game on Tuesday, our girls softball. Super excited.
• 37:16
  Cute group of girls that we have, 11 and under.
• 37:19
  And I'm walking yesterday from my office onto the field, and I hear Pablito
• 37:22
  telling the girls from when I'm walking in the bullpen, telling them,
• 37:26
  hey, girls, you girls need to stop messing around, right? So I hear that.
• 37:30
  So as I'm walking closer and closer, you know, the boys would probably get put
• 37:34
  in the track or they'd get screamed at or whatever.
• 37:36
  So I just walk up to them, I'm like, hey, girls, you girls know you have your first game.
• 37:40
  I get a little sarcastic, you know, very different from the boys.
• 37:42
  You girls know you have your first game on Tuesday, right?
• 37:45
  You do know that there was another group of girls
• 37:48
  in miami springs that are practicing to beat
• 37:51
  you and they may be behaving better they may be taking a little more
• 37:53
  serious man they shut up right away or like i like
• 37:56
  to be called out there were a couple moms there that heard and the moms were
• 38:00
  like yeah yeah you got like they just didn't like it you know it's very different
• 38:03
  it's 100 you can you can talk to them calmer you got to be smarter with an aggressive
• 38:08
  and they're gonna get it the boys sometimes you got to just i hate to say it
• 38:12
  but sometimes you got to send them home yep that's And I hate to say it, but sometimes.
• 38:15
  Sit them down for a little bit. You know, especially in the,
• 38:17
  in the, in like the, you know, I don't know how big your group settings are
• 38:20
  or whatever, but our group settings sometimes are really big. Yeah.
• 38:23
  And sometimes you got to threaten them.
• 38:25
  You know, I hate to say it, but sometimes you have to kind of do things that
• 38:30
  they feel, do things that they feel.
• 38:33
  They're going to be sent home or, you know, get your stuff and go.
• 38:37
  And then they're afraid of their parents at that point. They feel threatened. You know what I mean?
• 38:41
  Things like that. but you got to get them to click somehow, you know,
• 38:45
  whatever it takes. It's such a different, you know, and I.
• 38:49
  I noticed it. The girls, you don't got to do that at all. And I'm sure you saw it with your girls.
• 38:54
  You know, I remember taking Anderson to pre-K four and teacher was fantastic, Miss Janet.
• 39:01
  And sometimes, you know, I'd stick around, you know, especially when the school
• 39:04
  year began and you see the boys and then you see the girls.
• 39:08
  And I'm looking at my wife and I'm like, man, all these girls are speaking perfectly.
• 39:12
  They all behave super well. They sit there and the boys are like Neanderthals,
• 39:16
  bro. Like, you know, I'm like, what is going on?
• 39:21
  You know, like the maturity level, especially at a, I was going to say,
• 39:24
  especially at a young age, sometimes it continues into your forties.
• 39:29
  But, but, but yeah, no, you do, you do see a difference with the,
• 39:32
  with the, with the girls and the boys. Some of us are just never matured. Yeah. Never.
• 39:37
  Some of us are still collecting baseball cards and ball control cards.
• 39:43
  I speak to a lot of people in like movie quotes and they totally get me.
• 39:49
  And Anna just looks at me and she's like, what is wrong with you, bro?
• 39:53
  Like Billy Madison jokes and stuff. I'll just like randomly say something and
• 39:57
  she's like, where's that from? And I'm like, oh, the last dragon.
• 40:00
  You know, she's like, what are you talking about?
• 40:02
  But we'll mention it again at the end after we talk about the World Series.
• 40:06
  But if someone wants to reach out to you to take lessons themselves,
• 40:09
  like Coach Mike, or to take their kid to Golf Academy, where can they reach you?
• 40:14
  How can they get in touch with you? So for Golf Academy, you could check us
• 40:17
  out on our website, golfacademyus.com.
• 40:21
  For Depaz Golf, same thing, my website, depazgolf.com. You can follow me on Instagram, Depaz Golf.
• 40:26
  And I'll share all that. Yeah, I also have my personal Robert Depaz underscore
• 40:30
  32 that you can follow as well.
• 40:31
  And then my number, you can always reach out at 305-322-1167 and definitely
• 40:36
  send me a text and we'll schedule a time to talk and see how we could help you with your golf journey.
• 40:41
  That's awesome. Just gave you a follow, Instagram. I like it.
• 40:45
  That's awesome. But, you know, Coach Robbie's also a Yankee fan,
• 40:50
  and Yankees aren't in the World Series, but the Blue Jays are.
• 40:54
  You know, they mock the Yankees when they beat them, but they're playing the
• 40:59
  juggernaut, the Dodgers, you know, the almost billion-dollar team.
• 41:04
  You know, at some point we're going to see it.
• 41:05
  But, man, series is 3-2.
• 41:08
  Toronto's up. You know, that one game that went 18 innings, could have gone
• 41:14
  either way, We could have, you know, Toronto could have been celebrating last night, but you know,
• 41:20
  three, two, Mike going into game six now back at Toronto, you think the Dodgers
• 41:26
  still have anything left in them or, or is this series you think done?
• 41:29
  I mean, listen, even from the beginning of the series, I knew that it was a
• 41:34
  toss up because yeah, once you get to this point, no matter what the Dodgers
• 41:38
  did, no matter who they have, every, everybody's neutral, neutralizable.
• 41:42
  You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 41:44
  Anything is possible, but if I'm betting, I'm thinking that the Blue Jays are
• 41:49
  going to take one of two at home and the Blue Jays are going to be your 2025
• 41:52
  World Series champions.
• 41:55
  Also, you mentioned the 18 inning game, Armando. I think that did affect a little
• 42:02
  bit the Dodgers because they're not as youthful as the Blue Jays.
• 42:06
  I think the Blue Jays with their youth, you know, it's a big difference.
• 42:10
  The Dodgers are a little more methodical, a little older.
• 42:13
  And we're not only talking about the physical energy of those 18 innings but
• 42:18
  man the mental and emotional and up and down and it just drags on bro and I
• 42:25
  think that might have affected them but,
• 42:28
  You know, I knew at the beginning of this series, I was told I was with the
• 42:30
  principal of Cyprus and somebody came up to us at the, at the Halloween festival
• 42:34
  was like, oh, the Dodgers.
• 42:35
  And the principal looked at me, he put his eyes open big. He looked away and
• 42:39
  I was like, yeah, man, I'm not sure, you know, the bone.
• 42:42
  He's like, yeah, bro, that bone's thick. That Toronto team is thick.
• 42:44
  You know, Mr. Alonso was telling me.
• 42:48
  And, you know, I just, I just think once you get to the world series,
• 42:52
  Armando, like your ace isn't that much better than mine.
• 42:55
  Yep. Your third batter is not that much better than mine, you know?
• 42:59
  And I don't think that the Dodgers are going to pull it off, bro.
• 43:02
  I don't. And in these situations, you know, like what I like about the baseball
• 43:07
  playoffs, I mean, it could happen in any playoff, right?
• 43:10
  But there's people that come and make these names for themselves.
• 43:13
  You know, they go into that World Series lore that like 30 years from now,
• 43:17
  you're talking about some performances.
• 43:19
  Last night, this rookie, Trey Yessabaj, however you pronounce the name, right? Amazing.
• 43:26
  So he strikes out 12, pitches seven innings, gives up one earned run.
• 43:33
  Started off the season in the minors. In the major leagues this year,
• 43:37
  I think he made like $57,000 or something like that. Correct. 22 years old.
• 43:43
  Coach Robbie's 26, right? 26, yeah. 26.
• 43:46
  Imagine you four years ago pitching in the biggest stage. And you deal.
• 43:52
  The World Series. 22 years old. And he shut down the best team in baseball.
• 43:56
  And his opponent, Snell.
• 43:58
  Blake Snell? No, Blake Snell got, he got lit up a little bit.
• 44:00
  Let's talk about that history a little bit and why you have to stay humble and
• 44:06
  why you can't think that you're better than anybody else because a rookie that
• 44:10
  was in the minor leagues that made $57,000 this year.
• 44:15
  Had a more valuable performance than your whole contract this year in one night. Okay.
• 44:24
  And it just goes back to staying humble, bro.
• 44:27
  You know, he's Ian Snell, Blake Snell is a great pitcher. Great.
• 44:32
  But there are some things that he's done that to me, he just rubbed me the wrong way.
• 44:37
  And then when things like that happen to me, that I see the first pitch of the
• 44:42
  game, homerun second pitch of the game homerun,
• 44:47
  I don't know. But at that moment, you're a guy who threw two fastballs down the middle.
• 44:52
  And you were the guy who sat out two years ago because you didn't think 30 million
• 44:57
  a year was enough and you went to go coach the league.
• 44:59
  And then you want good things to happen to you in return.
• 45:02
  I don't think that that works like that. Yeah. I mean, luckily for the Dodgers,
• 45:06
  they have Yamamoto going on on Friday.
• 45:09
  The guy throws, you know, two complete games in a row, three and one in the
• 45:13
  postseason with a 157 ERA.
• 45:15
  The guy's been unstoppable but look, let's talk about something historic that
• 45:21
  we've seen in the World Series, even though he's had a couple games that haven't
• 45:26
  been that good, but Coach Robbie you're 26,
• 45:28
  we're in our mid-40s, but we never saw Babe Ruth play, right?
• 45:34
  We read about him, but and I mentioned Babe Ruth, is Shohei Otani the best baseball
• 45:42
  player you've ever seen in your life?
• 45:43
  No, I don't think so no not yet not yet not
• 45:46
  yet he's good and stuff like that but i mean so i
• 45:49
  i like he pitched a great game and it was a game you
• 45:52
  know game three three the clincher yeah it's a great game there but i'm not
• 45:56
  i'm not sold yet i'm not sold yet i'm uh like i said i'm a yankee fan i still
• 46:00
  think jeter is the best guy that i've been a rod you know even you know throwing
• 46:04
  a boston guy there big poppy is really good he came in clutching on their on
• 46:07
  their tough moments you know sometimes it's not about how, you know,
• 46:12
  how much you do, but it's how much you come up in those clutch situations.
• 46:14
  You know, like what you just finished saying, how, you know,
• 46:17
  the whole season can be defined by that one outing in the World Series and it
• 46:20
  makes it worth it. How calling him up was the right decision.
• 46:23
  Yeah. Yeah. Look, with Otani, Mike, and, you know, and we've spoken about it
• 46:27
  before, you know, it's not so much, you know, because if you look at it,
• 46:31
  you know, you take a step back.
• 46:33
  And you look at it, yesterday he went 0-4-4, sitting 2-50.
• 46:37
  You know, he had the three-homer game against, you know, in the last series.
• 46:41
  And then, you know, he had the two-homer game the other day when he was pitching
• 46:46
  with five walks, which is incredible.
• 46:49
  But, you know, it's a fact that he does both. Right. And that's what makes him special.
• 46:56
  But, you know, I mean, he's doing things that, you know, nobody else has done since Babe Ruth.
• 47:04
  But he has struggled a little bit at the plate aside from a couple of games.
• 47:08
  What I've noticed, Armando, is that he's either very hot or he's average.
• 47:13
  You know what I'm saying? Like yesterday, he was at basketball.
• 47:16
  Yeah. You know what I mean? No, there was one at bat where his helmet came off. He was all confused.
• 47:21
  There's a nice picture of it. I sent it to my brother. Yeah. You know what I mean? So.
• 47:26
  He's very hot when he's hot he's very good and you know
• 47:29
  everything happens and he's done some things I think he had like 13 at-bats in
• 47:32
  a row where he was on base when you combine the games you know he's incredible
• 47:35
  but the thing is that you know he's he's they're able to neutralize that like
• 47:40
  the 18 inning game Armando you know he was four for four with two homers and
• 47:45
  two doubles in the regular game and then they said in the extras you know F
• 47:49
  this if we lose we're not going to lose because of this guy.
• 47:52
  You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I got a quick story about an 18-inning game.
• 47:58
  Season opener, double-A, Akron, Ohio.
• 48:01
  We're playing against the Akron Arrows. I'm with the Redding Phillies double-A ball.
• 48:06
  I had just been rule five from Cleveland to Philly, and that's who I was playing
• 48:09
  against. So opening night, I'm hitting second. Ryan Howard's hitting behind me third.
• 48:14
  Opening night, 18 innings, brother.
• 48:17
  Freezing cold, Akron, Ohio, but the opposite for me. First nine innings, I'm 0 for 4.
• 48:24
  Bro, in the last nine, I went 4 for 4. I ended up 4 for 8 in the day.
• 48:28
  Bro, the thing is that you go into the extra innings thinking,
• 48:31
  oh my God, I'm already 0 for 4. This can be a disaster.
• 48:34
  And then there's a flipping on you. What did Ryan Howard do that game?
• 48:37
  He went 0 for 8 with 7 strikeouts. Oh my God.
• 48:39
  And the next day in the doubleheader, he went 0 for 7 with 6 strikeouts.
• 48:43
  On Sunday, he went 0 for 5 with 4 strikeouts. And then he went on to hit 37 home runs in AA.
• 48:49
  He went off to hit 11 in triple
• 48:53
  a 13 in the big leagues the following year he
• 48:56
  went to be the rookie of the year and then he went to be the world series mvp so
• 49:00
  it was okay then he hit like then he hit like 50 or something like that one
• 49:03
  yeah after he he tore his achilles i was done he wasn't the same but he was
• 49:08
  a good dude my most important thing for the world series that mattingly gets
• 49:11
  his ring yeah finally yeah that's i'm rooting for the blue jays for that yeah
• 49:15
  Yeah, that would be nice. Yankees, that's our Yankee connection.
• 49:17
  Get him a ring and then get him a job. Then get him to the Yankees.
• 49:20
  Get him a ring and then get him a job.
• 49:22
  Boone needs to be out. I agree. I agree. Look, they've been noncommittal. Nine years.
• 49:26
  Tough nine years. They've been noncommittal, which still gives me pause because
• 49:31
  I'm like, you know, maybe they...
• 49:35
  Maybe they still pull the trigger,
• 49:36
  but at the same time, it looks like they're not going to make a move.
• 49:39
  But if Mattingly gets his ring, why the hell not bring him back? Yeah.
• 49:43
  As, you know, one of the, he's a Yankee legend. With the Marlins,
• 49:47
  didn't he win coach of the year? He did. And with the Dodgers too. Yeah.
• 49:50
  Yeah. The Marlins are famous for that, for bringing in great managers.
• 49:53
  And then firing them a year later. Them getting great awards. Yeah.
• 49:57
  Girardi, right? Wasn't Girardi? Mattingly. Yeah. They're like,
• 49:59
  hey, great job. We're going to trade your best players now. Yeah. So figure it out.
• 50:05
  Figure it out. There's a trend with the Dolphins, too, because there's a bunch
• 50:07
  of assistant coaches of the Dolphins we have that are some badass head coaches
• 50:10
  right now, right? So it seems like a trend here in Florida.
• 50:13
  Come for the nice beach weather to learn the system. Ben Johnson,
• 50:15
  who's coaching the Bears, was a Dolphins assistant.
• 50:18
  Yeah. Very famously, Dan Campbell. Yeah.
• 50:21
  Assistant and interim head coach. Yeah. There's been a lot of guys that have gone through here.
• 50:27
  Dan Quinn as well. Yeah. And he's a head coach over at Washington.
• 50:30
  But the Dolphins looked all world the other day. Sure did, yeah.
• 50:33
  They looked amazing. They play the Ravens tonight.
• 50:36
  And, you know, to me, nothing changes. They still need to fire McDaniel.
• 50:40
  They still need to fire Greer.
• 50:43
  What would happen with the Dolphins because of their misfortunes is that they went out,
• 50:48
  the rest of the season finished with like this mediocre, like seven and nine,
• 50:52
  you know, seven and 10 record.
• 50:54
  And then it's like, do we make a change or not? They need to make changes.
• 50:58
  Right. I mean, the, the team, the team looked pretty embarrassing for some weeks.
• 51:02
  One game doesn't turn it around for me. I mean, even Robbie's jets won the other
• 51:06
  day, you know, they won their first game of the season.
• 51:10
  We did that for Nick Mangold right there. Yeah. That was a shame that he, that he passed away.
• 51:15
  But you know, so the, the, the Dolphins need to make some, some changes.
• 51:18
  No, no doubt about it. I mean, you know, 2-0 had a good game.
• 51:22
  Looked good. We got a big, big victory.
• 51:24
  But like I said, you know, it's to me. His eye was swollen and he played his
• 51:27
  best game. Yeah, to me, it's not enough.
• 51:30
  It's, again, we're eight games in. I would have liked to have seen these type
• 51:33
  of performances early in the season.
• 51:34
  To me, it's a little too late. But it's typical Dolphin fashion now.
• 51:38
  They're going to give you just enough.
• 51:40
  And they're going to give you just enough tonight. They're going to give you just enough.
• 51:43
  And then, you know, things are going to stay as just enough.
• 51:46
  And nothing's going to really change, bro. And let me make it,
• 51:49
  let me be clear with the people listening, because a lot of media,
• 51:54
  I'm no longer full-time media.
• 51:57
  I am a real estate agent.
• 52:01
  I don't do media full-time. I do this because I love it.
• 52:05
  I'm not getting paid for this. I'm not getting paid for the other podcasts.
• 52:09
  I will get paid if I do the Super Bowl at Telemundo and they call me.
• 52:12
  But man the media does love to like misconstrue stuff and make you believe things,
• 52:19
  And, you know, for weeks on end, the story that you kept on reading was,
• 52:26
  okay, they're going to fire McDaniel soon. McDaniel, McDaniel, McDaniel.
• 52:29
  Then it's like, oh, maybe both Greer and McDaniel. And now they went the other
• 52:33
  day and people, some Dolphin fans have told me this and stop with the bullshit.
• 52:38
  Stop. Like, I don't want to hear it.
• 52:40
  They start with the, oh, but it's probably Greer. Let's get rid of Greer and keep McDaniel. No.
• 52:47
  You get rid of both. and I don't care if McDaniel goes to another team and wins
• 52:51
  the Super Bowl. It's not about that anymore.
• 52:54
  The Dolphins have very famously done, they've done this for the last 20 something years.
• 53:00
  They have a coach and a GM.
• 53:03
  They fire the coach, keep the same GM, he hires another coach.
• 53:08
  Then they fire the GM. Yeah, back and forth. They keep the coach and tell the
• 53:12
  next GM, hey, I know you didn't hire this guy, but here you go,
• 53:16
  build a team for this guy.
• 53:17
  It doesn't work that way. The successful teams hire a GM who then,
• 53:22
  you know, could sit with the owner all he wants or whatever.
• 53:24
  But he brings in the coach for the strategy that he's going to put into play with the team.
• 53:31
  I'm bringing in these players. I want this type of coach to coach these players.
• 53:36
  Or you coach a guy that you like and that you can work in conjunction with.
• 53:40
  Like, hey, let's work together. I'll tell you who I want.
• 53:43
  You tell me who you want. We'll work together to make it work.
• 53:45
  But keeping McDaniels is not going to make it work. You're going to bring in
• 53:48
  a guy and tell him like, hey, you're going to have to work with this guy.
• 53:51
  You know, no, it doesn't work that way. It does not work that way.
• 53:55
  So you fire the GM, you fire McDaniel, you could go on to be an offensive coordinator somewhere else.
• 54:01
  If another team wants to hire him, God bless you, do it.
• 54:05
  But the GM could stay. GMs could stay long-term and they could do the hiring,
• 54:10
  but not the other way around.
• 54:11
  No, I agree. That doesn't work. I'm with you 100%. But also another thing,
• 54:15
  Armando, I think once all these reports had come out of the sloppiness of players
• 54:19
  just missing meetings and shit like that.
• 54:22
  That's all coaching. That's all coaching, bro. That's all coaching and respect
• 54:25
  and influence that you have, you know?
• 54:28
  So for me, you know, it's just, like I said, at this point, bring me Shadour.
• 54:31
  Bring me Shadour and the circus. Just bring me the cameras. Bring me the Instagram.
• 54:35
  Bring it all to me. Give me something to watch.
• 54:37
  But again, it's just not enough for me, man. Don't bring me Dion, though.
• 54:40
  And then, you know, and then somebody's got to help too on these interviews, bro.
• 54:46
  I was going to say, you know, I'm not the tallest guy. I can't see over the
• 54:48
  line. just shut up someone's got to really coach him though armando there's a saying in in spanish.
• 54:55
  Someone's got to really coach him even nick
• 54:58
  saban's calling him out on his on his interview yeah yeah it's
• 55:01
  a tough spot yeah it's a tough spot you know him and mcdaniels sound terrible
• 55:05
  every week it's bad oh mcdaniels is a funny guy to watch doesn't make eye contact
• 55:09
  with anybody he's constantly looking down he doesn't like demand respect in
• 55:12
  the room and i don't like that bro i don't like those weak presence type people
• 55:16
  like that i don't like that yeah well you know if If they lose tonight,
• 55:19
  they don't play again until next Sunday.
• 55:23
  Gives you enough time to make a firing. Fire McDaniel tomorrow.
• 55:27
  Bring in an interim coach. Take a look at him and go from there.
• 55:31
  But, you know, that's just the way it goes with Miami Dolphins football.
• 55:36
  Looks like the Jets and the Dolphins are never meant to win.
• 55:41
  But, I mean, the Jets just did exactly what you talked about.
• 55:43
  They got a new GM, new coach, same time. So, we'll see what happens.
• 55:46
  At the end of the day, we got to give them time. You got to give them time.
• 55:48
  Are trying. You gotta give them time.
• 55:51
  Coach Robbie, thank you for being on with us. Great show, man.
• 55:54
  This was awesome. I had a great time. Thank you so much.
• 55:56
  And once again, mention how to follow you because some people may not have heard.
• 56:00
  They may have just fast-forwarded to the end.
• 56:02
  You're good. You're good. No, so you can follow me at thepozgolf.com is my website.
• 56:07
  My Instagram is thepozgolf.
• 56:08
  And you can follow the Golf Academy at Golf Academy USA on Instagram.
• 56:11
  And then the website is golfacademyus.com. Follow him. Boom. I'm going to call.
• 56:16
  And Mike and I will be back next week with a new World Series champ.
• 56:19
  And we'll be talking free agent baseball, winter, winter baseball.
• 56:23
  Best time of the year. One of my favorite, yeah, my favorite time of the year. He's up.