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Trekcast 369: Gorn to Die · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Track Cass, The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trick Podcast. Hey, Hey,
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  welcome to track Cass, the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. I am
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  one of your hosts, Dan Lombardo of Earth with me as always. Daniel
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  Ray is also of Earth. That's right. He doesn't throw that around,
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  he doesn't flash it around. He doesn't right, not to throw it around
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  too much. Yeah, but he too, He too hails from the third
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  Rock from the Sun as far as we know as we know, that's right.
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  I mean, you know, we don't know for sure. A lot
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  of stuff they've been saying on Capitol Hill last couple of weeks. That's right,
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  that's right, that's right. I could be an alien. Who knows
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  it could be. We don't know. We just but I just don't know.
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  So it's just us. It's weird, okay. Were we not able
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  to get it? Does it? Does it? At what point? Does
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  it become the norm? Man? I don't know. So we weren't able
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  to get Scott, we weren't able to get Gentry. Yeah. I do
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  have a way to maybe get somebody else. Okay, who do we hold
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  on? Let me pack ethan pack is hosting drug ass that's right. Let
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  me let me see if I can light the it's coming. We'll light it.
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  We'll light it there, and he's better babies. The favorite part of
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  all of that is where you got Scott shrinking. I didn't even have to
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  say mecap that's right. Oh that was brilliant. Morning everybody. Yes,
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  good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning from England. If
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  only that was true, he says, the gorn impregnated Chad with egg babies,
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  and he's with Nurse Chapel at the moment. God, I wish I
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  was a man. Yeah, smoke a cigar just thinking about it. Now,
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  he's got cigars, said a cigar or pretzel? Rod? What do
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  you? What do you do? It's a cigar. It's a cigar,
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  all right. I don't light him. I just chew on them. I
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  just kind of know on them. Okay. Anyway, that's that's something new.
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  No, No, this has always been a thing. I've always done
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  this. Nurse Chapel, you would too, Bronson, any of the any
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  of the ladies listening to this show right now can also a test that they
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  also would. Jasmine, that's what my dad does. I mean, he
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  wasn't clear, so maybe maybe I mean both are good. Okay, both
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  are fine, solid options either way, yes, either way. Okay,
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  why is your name? Why is your name? Last show? Yeah,
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  what's up with that? Uh? Yeah, So, I mean there's been
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  a lot of speculations and rumors with me being absent over the summer, quite
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  a bit a lot going on. So we'll just rip the band aid off
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  right now and just yea look. Uh, today is gonna be my last
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  episode of track cast until we do another one. You know, you know
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  Scott Bowders was listening to that and he oh he had his heart left.
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  You ever see that meme with the with the black dude and the yellow suit.
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  He's half behind the tree, Yeah yeah, yeah, or the one
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  with the or the one with the guy behind the fern blush going right right.
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  He's waiting, he's waiting to jump out. It is my last one,
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  covering season two of Strange New Worlds though as that works out, that
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  works works, Yeah, until we take a break. I have one episode
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  and then go right back to lower decks. Yeah pretty much. Yeah.
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  Yeah, Oh is that how soon? It's that's how soon number seventh.
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  Actually, no, that's that's two weeks. But no, it's like almost
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  a month. That's almost a month September seventh, So from what I counted,
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  we would have one episode. Like if we take a break, do
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  one episode, take another week off, and then come back it's lower X
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  Oh oh yeah it's a month. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right,
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  yeah, we should try to fit in some trivia shows. I don't know,
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  some fun little shows, non review episode kind of things. Oh,
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  we're gonna have a lot of time after Lower Dex is over. You know
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  you gotta be here to do that. Yeah, you mean I gotta show
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  up. Yeah, you just say I'm a host and not come on the
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  show. I mean your favorite shows around the Corner Man Discoveries Back. The
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  amount of prep work for this show though, was killing me. Oh yeah
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  yeah yeah a yally, as you're right, watch along shows. We've talked
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  about that for forever. We should do that. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  There's some legalities with watch lungs. But yeah, well, as long as
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  we're not streaming the video, if we're telling people when to start the video,
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  we're just watching, that's what you have to do. Yeah, yeah,
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  can you play the audio at the same time? Okay, I didn't
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  think so, Yeah, that's too bad. It'd be hilarious to have us
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  interacting with Oh I said, I copied it, but I didn't send it
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  to you guys. I'll send you guys this link. You gotta watch this
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  later, do it all? Right? Well, should we get to the
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  news? Sure, yeah, go for it. Let's go for the news
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  news, right, So, our first news story comes to us from trekmovie
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  dot com. And apparently Paramount had their big second quarter financial results this week
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  on Monday, and so we are learning new more things about what Paramount plans
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  to do in the future, and they are going to be cutting back big
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  time. No, yeah, they did announce. So they have sixty one
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  million subscribers to Paramount Plus right now, and even then, they are still
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  losing hundreds of millions of dollars, so they need to cut back. They
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  say they have a laser focus on content that they have plans in place.
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  They have learned that they have been doing too much content per franchise, so
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  they want to scale it back. So they say they need to have enough
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  content to keep people interested, but not too much to overwhelm them. So
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  this might be why Prodigy is going away. Is the theory, but laser
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  focus on content. We're doing too much content. Those things don't seem to
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  jive. Oh yeah, I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you right
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  now. I scroll through Netflix sometimes and I have to scroll pass so much
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  crap that I have zero interest in before finding something that I'm even remotely interested
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  in. At this point, I don't even know why I have Netflix anymore.
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  But I think the same people that are that are that are piloting that
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  sinking ship, are are piloting the Paramount plus sinking ship. Because you know,
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  they made this big push over the last few months about Netflix hired Arnold
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  Schwarzenegger as their their action action action whatever their actions are, to make sure
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  there's enough action, right, And then I get an email from Netflix.
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  You know what's what's leaving Netflix this month? Terminator two Judgment Day is leaving
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  Netflix this month. That that is arguably the role and the movie that he
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  is most known for. If you had to, if I had to pick
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  one Schwartzenegger movie that I could, I can only watch one Schwartzenegger movie ever
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  again for the rest of my life, it would probably be Terminator to Judgment
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  Day. Why is that leaving Netflix? Why why is it not Kindergarten Cop.
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  Yeah, it's not a Tuma. Get out of here. It's not
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  a tuma. That's like, yeah, the best one liner ever. Yeah,
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  for sure. Yeah, they can't show that movie. They can't show
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  that movie anymore because the five year old says boys have a penis, girls
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  have a vagina, and that's not true anymore. So No, it's hate
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  speeds or just killing Daniel every time he makes these kinds of comments. They
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  just kill Did they make a sequel to Kindergarten Cop? Yeah? Yeah,
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  oh good lord. Yeah it was straight to Blockbuster. Yeah. It was
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  something like the Russian government wants to make the best kindergarten teacher ever, so
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  they so they shoot him up with steroids computers, but he's still not a
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  match for a regular, good old American kindergarten teacher. Oh god, is
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  that really the premise? No, I know, but I still wouldn't be
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  surprised. You know. It's funny though, growing up as a kid watching
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  the Shortzeger movies or seeing Dolph Lundren or seeing anything with Wesley Snipes or what's
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  his name the karate guy from these No, not that loser, the other
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  one, the French dude. Yeah, se Sean Claude von Dam or whatever
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  his name is, all of those guys all in the course of uster stallone.
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  All I ever wanted was to see all of them together in one action
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  movie. Uh huh. And then then we got it with expendables, right,
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  and it was awesome and amazing, and they stopped making those. I
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  don't know why I still want to see seventy year old action heroes. Know
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  they're making another one. Part four is coming out like later this month,
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  or I've never seen any God watch them. They are like they're like chicken
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  sit for this soul. That's a wrestler, Rob van Dam. Yeah,
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  yeah, they really are. It's like such a great they're such they're so
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  stupid and they're so predictable. But it's just a perfect, you know,
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  nostalgic action movie with all those guys together in one. It's somebody fantastic good
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  box and just bashed the figures together. Yeah, it's exactly what it is.
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  It's perfect. It just it makes you feel like a kid again.
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  Yeah. So anyway, all right, I've got a couple of little news
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  news interesting things going around. So to promote season two of Strange New Worlds
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  and finale. They sent the producers out to do interviews and so A.
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  Kiva's Goldsman was doing an interview with Variety and he was all excited about season
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  two and he did mention that, you know, the longer that Strange New
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  Worlds goes, we will see potentially more ts, characters and bones. So
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  they're that also we are learning that because of the strike and because of everything,
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  we probably will not get the resolve of this cliffhanger until twenty twenty five.
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  Oh god, yeah, all year, next year nothing. Yeah,
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  yeah, past one hundred day mark, which is the longest strike in history,
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  wasn't it. Well they're past one hundred day mark for writers, actors
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  not so much, but still yeah, and it's it's gonna keep going.
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  Yeah, they gotta be they gotta be careful because here's the thing. Strikes
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  are tough. You go on you go on strike, and the people who
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  agree with you and support you, at some point they start feeling the pain
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  of your striking and you start to lose some of them. So they have
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  to find the sweet spot of when and how to end this thing. Yeah,
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  but for sure, and right now, like the studios aren't even coming
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  to the table. They just first of the first time in like ninety days.
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  They did with the writers just last week. So yeah, well they
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  don't need to yet, that's the thing. They don't. They don't have
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  their investors yelling at him yet, so to get more content going. But
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  and then our last news story, this came out from Variety because they're probably
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  just kicking over rocks for news stories at this point. But it's a little
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  interesting little factoid came out. Apparently Timothy Oliphant was originally supposed to be Captain
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  Kirk in the Star Trek movies instead of Chris Pine. Timothy Oliphant, If
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  you don't know who he is, he's from Justifying. He was a great
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  actor. He was also in The Mandalorian. He plays that that sheriff that
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  hangs out with Bobafat and the Mandalorian. Oh okay that guy, yeah,
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  yea, yeah. I thought Dan would get it with that. He's not
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  a He's not a Kirk to me. Yeah, he's got a little bit
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  of a rye kind of joky attitude to him. Sure he does, but
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  he's a little too tall and spindly for that. I think Chris Pine was
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  perfect that's apparently JJ Abrams called him and says, I found a guy younger
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  and who's really good. That's that's what happened to Timothy oli Funt. Yeah,
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  yeah, I just thought it was interesting. Yeah, no, I
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  like all the fun I like it. I like Justified was a fantastic series,
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  really really good. I think they came out with some kind of sequel
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  to it or whatever where he's in it. Yeah, yeah, I think
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  it's out now. Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know if that's gonna
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  do any good or not. And that seems kind of the wrong place to
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  put him. But I've read good reviews, but I haven't watched it,
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  and I love Justified. I just yeah, Justify, it's fantastic. Yeah,
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  so yep, yep. All right, Well that's all the news stories.
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  Let's let's get to the main top I will now connect. And I
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  was like, do we do feedback and then we do Yeah, the order
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  of things. These are the order of things. Yeah, it's news,
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  it's great topic and then feedback. But yeah, so we had season two,
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  episode ten, season finale had Geminy a Gemini whatever, geminy geminy.
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  Yeah, So so I watched it. I was on vacation this week Ohnok.
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  I took took the wife and kids up to Lake George spent a week
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  the Great Escape Lodge. So I watched this episode on my son's iPad in
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  the lobby with my earbuds and while I had in my morning coffee one morning
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  this week, and then I tried to rewatch it last night, only got
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  about a halfway through and I got a splitting migraine spent. It was terrible.
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  It was the worst migraine I've ever had. Spent hours on the couch
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  with like a wet rag over my over my eyes, and yeah, it
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  was bad. So I've seen it one point five times. Okay. The
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  second time I was taking notes, but my notes and when they start pushing
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  the saucer section into the planet, so sorry, I've got I've got the
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  logline, okay, And it says when the when the USS Enterprise investigates an
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  attack on a colony at the edge of Federation space, Captain Pike and his
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  crew faced the return of a formidable enemy. Mm hmm, there you go.
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  So the cornerback, baby. I was really intrigued with the idea of
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  this colony that they're they're on and they mentioned they mentioned how this is a
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  this is a colony that's using the quote Midwest model and they're modeling it after
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  a Midwestern town in uh in the United States. And it got me wondering,
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  like, you know, you're a human. It's the twenty third or
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  the twenty fourth century. You know, you're sitting down to dinner with your
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  wife and you're like, all right, I got this crazy idea. Yes,
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  let's be colonists. Oh I don't know, honey, Earth this nice.
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  No no, no, no, no, no, listen. I
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  went to the place today. I got the pamphlets. We could choose from
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  the Midwest model, the Old West model. They have a medieval model,
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  Greco Roman, huh huh, ancient orients, Native American colonial, beyond light
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  speed. You can summon food just by talking to the scene. All of
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  that gone yep, yep, yep. But it's like, no, I
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  want to live on you know, I don't know the prehistoric model is there
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  like a caveman. It's like medieval times, but you live there, that's
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  right, You like cashole because we're gonna go to the future and have in
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  a Midwest. But you know, then it got me thinking, like Okay,
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  you know the Federation has colonies. Yeah, you know, are there
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  human colonies and Vulcan colonies? Are they integrated? Can a human shoes to
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  go live in a Vulcan model colony? Is that cultural appropriation? Or are
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  they beyond that? Well, in enterprise, we had the old West Town,
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  right, but that was different. They those were people that were were
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  we're kidnapped by aliens in the eight in the eighteen hundreds. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, like and then it got me, Oh good, I was
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  gonna say, when I saw them wanting to live that way, I thought
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  of them as like space amish, Yeah, kind of like that. That's
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  kind of what I got the bibo. Yeah, but I mean they had
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  cars and stuff. They looked like like six wheeled golf cards comparatively, right,
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  yeah, yeah, you know the barber shop, he's ringing the bell
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  outside. It's not using a PA system or get the rail alcds do get
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  their Internet, yep, yep. But yeah, yeah, it got me
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  think of the political structure of all this. So this was a this appeared
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  to be a human colony, right, but not. They're not a member
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  of the federation. They didn't want to be a member of the Federation.
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  Yet the Federation is you know, the Federation is there offering support or whatever.
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  Yeah, but so does each colony that becomes a federation member? Do
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  they get a vote in the Federation Council? Do they count as a federation
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  planet? I just feel like by the twenty fourth century, we often hear
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  them say, oh, it's a it's a federation of over one hundred and
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  fifty planets, right, So is that one hundred and fifty different species,
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  like one hundred and fifty home worlds or is that one hundred and fifty planets?
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  Because I feel like by the twenty fourth century, Earth probably has one
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  hundred and fifty colonies itself out there. And then if you're a if you're
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  a human living on a Federation colony, who's your elected official in the Federation
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  Council? Do you vote for the Earth representative or do you have your own
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  representative? Or are there three houses of Congress There's the Homeworld House, the
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  Colony House, and then the Senate? How does it work? These are
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  the things, Yeah, these are the things that I want to know.
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  What kind of voting starcturer? The first past to post rank and vile you
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  know, what's that rank choice voting they branch. Yeah, so the answer
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  to the question of is it one hundred and fifty planets or is it one
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  hundred and fifty home worlds? Okay, do you guys hear that? Yeah?
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  It feedback. Okay, anyway, if you hear it again, let
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  me know the answer to one hundred fifty planets or one hundred fifty home world
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  is sure, right of course, come on, really never they never cleared
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  up. There's nothing anywhere that clears all that up. I kind of hanging
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  on the side that it's one hundred and fifty homeworld's species. That's what I
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  think as well, That's kind of what I go off of. But yeah,
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  so here's here's my other here's my other thing. And I'm not trying
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  to take a big dump on this episode. I'm not. But we'll skip
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  ahead a little bit. The Gorn attack to human colony outside of Federation space.
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  Why would the colonists ever choose to settle there. That's like a bunch
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  of them Americans choosing to build a community on a small unclaimed island that's in
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  international waters, but it just happens to be next to North Korea. Why
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  would you ever, ever, ever, ever do that. I could almost
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  guarantee you that if there was an uninhabited island one hundred and fifty two hundred
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  three hundred miles off the coast of North Korea, someone would try to colonize
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  it. Yeah, China, China, not a bunch of Amish people from
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  Pennsylvania who are like, this is this is true, but we're out.
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  Let's uh, let's move to almost North Korea. I mean, there's a
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  reason why we have stuff in Guam, so you know, Yeah, it
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  doesn't make well, it does, but it doesn't make a whole lot of
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  sense. It doesn't make sense from the standpoint of everything you just mentioned.
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  You're right, that seems stupid when you couch it that way. But for
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  those people who either a don't know any better or b don't quite understand what
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  the issue is with the gorner in the first place. Yeah, And it's
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  in terms of people wanting to have a frontier, wanting to get away from
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  the norms of society and do something different and on their own. Man,
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  that happens every day. It happens every day in the United States. People
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  are just wanting to get away from society. They want to move out of
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  the city, they want to go somewhere different. They moved to a different
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  county or a different state, or even a different country. So I don't
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  see any reason. I mean, that's just humans in general. I don't
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  see any reason why why that would change in the next three four hundred years,
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  for for for people. I just I just don't. So, yes,
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  I have pikes hair, thank you very much, tamer And So I
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  mean, yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
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  Yay, you're right, you're right, yeah, yeah, exactly. George
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  Kirk, George right, that's his name, George Kirk. No, it's
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  not George Sam Sam Sam Sam Kirk Sam Kirk. Yeah. So what's the
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  deal with this guy? I don't know. They just throw him in every
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  once in a while for no reason. Yeah, I feel like I feel
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  like we're not supposed to like him. Do you get that? Do you
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  get that feeling like him? Yeah? I know what you're saying, though,
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  I get the feeling that we're supposed to be annoyed by him. I
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  don't understand how you can just walk into a command officers meeting like that anyway,
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  that was dumb, Like, what the hell happened there? Yeah,
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  so I've realized something last night. And I don't know if this contributes to
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  not to getting a weird vibe from him. But he has a mustache but
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  no other facial hair, yeah, which which is extremely uncommon nowadays. It
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  used to be very common. Yeah, but it's it's extremely uncommon nowadays,
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  and coming back young guys, is it. Yeah, it's all right,
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  I wish it, but I mean, it's it. It used to be
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  very common. It's now very uncommon. I mean even to the point where
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  a lot of uniformed services that would never allow a beard are softening their facial
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  hair policies. You see police departments with guys with full beards now where that
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  was never that was never allowed. It used to be you know, military
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  standards and and yeah, I don't know. I just I don't know.
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  I don't know what is with him. And I don't know if it's the
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  mustache. I don't know if they're trying to yeah it's the Chester Molester mustache,
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  but I don't know they do. You remember when bardists, when Bordist
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  got a mustache, it was but it was just it was just a mustache,
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  all right, And they said, what do you join in the fire
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  department because that's the only thing you could have, just a mustache, and
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  right, I missed that show. I don't know, Yeah, I don't
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  know. I'm annoyed by Sam a little bit, and I was very annoyed
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  with him in this episode because here's a chicken shit guy and Xenobiology all of
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  a sudden throws himself into the command staff meeting. He shouldn't shouldn't be able
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  to just walk in on that, and it's all like, I want to
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  go kick some ass, you know, like really really trim your beer.
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  Okay, you're getting hit. He also had his brother on the ship two
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  weeks in a row, making him yeah, making him a left Yeah,
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  yeah, yeah, yeah. You know we think I said, if we
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  liked the episode, we just got right into just ripping. Oh no,
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  no, I like you know, hey, you know what, it's strange
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  New Worlds buddy. Yeah, I like it. There's a plenty there's plenty
• 26:51
  wrong with it. Yeah, there's plenty of playing wrong with it. But
• 26:55
  you know, I like it. I do like it. There's some silly
• 27:00
  things like the new you know, we got this new technology that can take
• 27:03
  out the the Gorn. You know what else could take out the Gorn.
• 27:10
  Old technology. Yeah, bullets, bullets, yeah, yeah, bullets yeah,
• 27:15
  you know, uh, projectile fired through a metal tube by using the
• 27:22
  expanding gases behind it. That's that's you know, that's proven technology. Flame
• 27:30
  thrower always works. Yeah, that too, That's really what they should have
• 27:33
  brought out. Yeah, yeah, because it's it's so much a Ridley Scott
• 27:41
  production here with Aliens going on, I mean it really is. Yeah,
• 27:45
  you know, I had a thought on that. So they've become the Gorn
• 27:52
  have become like Star Treks, Zeno morphs, aliens from the Aliens franchise,
• 27:57
  and if I remember, if if I remember correctly, those xenomorphs whatever whatever,
• 28:06
  they impregnate the offspring take on some of the characteristics. Yeah. Yeah,
• 28:14
  So they've been impregnating a lot of humans lately. Maybe that's why the
• 28:18
  Gorn that we're going to see in five years when Captain Kirk fights him on
• 28:25
  what is it, sessed Us three or whatever, maybe maybe that's why he
• 28:29
  looks more human than what we're seeing right now. I can't remember where I
• 28:33
  saw it, but someone was pointing out that apparently in the books and in
• 28:37
  even like the role playing games like the older ones. There are two subspecies
• 28:42
  of Gorn. They are like the humanoid looking one and then they're kind of
• 28:47
  like the one we're seeing now on Stranger Worlds. Well, the adult one
• 28:52
  that we saw this week that was in the yeah, was in the space
• 28:56
  suit. You know, we saw him clinging to the ceiling. We didn't
• 29:03
  see him standing upright right. And the last adult Gorn that we saw was
• 29:11
  in this second to last episode of Enterprise, and it was it was terrible,
• 29:18
  terrible, terrible cgie. But asition one draphics baby. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:25
  but it was kind of the same thing. He wasn't standing upright,
• 29:27
  he was he was kind of Yeah, I don't know if he was on
• 29:32
  all fours or just hunched over. It's been a while since I've seen it.
• 29:34
  Yeah, I think what he even looked like in that one. I
• 29:37
  watched a little bit of the Will Wheaton Show. They didn't really do any
• 29:41
  interviews. It was all like just about special effects. That that adult Gorn
• 29:45
  is a dude in a suit. It's not CGI. Oh, okay,
• 29:51
  so that's kind of cool. Well that's yeah. So I mean this is
• 29:53
  that's the only adult that we've seen on this show. The others have all
• 29:57
  been you know, little babies, and and the fact that they're not attacking
• 30:03
  each other anymore, that could also be that they're taking on some human characteristics.
• 30:11
  Yeah, you know, they're they're cooperative. Yeah, they're a pack
• 30:17
  animal, a hurt animal, as opposed to you know, something like a
• 30:22
  reptile. That. I don't take that soul as day, I don't.
• 30:26
  I don't take that as an evolutionary thing or a genetic change, or even
• 30:30
  a pattern change from the Gorn. I take that more as we don't at
• 30:34
  this point in time. The Federation doesn't know a whole lot about the Gorn,
• 30:41
  and the people in the Enterprise only know what la On tell them.
• 30:45
  She was on a different planet under different circumstances, which is probably a which
• 30:49
  could have just been looked at as a as a true breeding planet from the
• 30:53
  standpoint of we want to breed the best warriors. Therefore they're going to compete.
• 30:57
  We've told them to compete, whereas here they're trying to colonize or they're
• 31:02
  trying to take over the resources or whatever else. And so yeah, here,
• 31:07
  guys, we're not trying to raise warriors. Here, we're just trying
• 31:10
  to consume and hold on too, So of course we're gonna work together.
• 31:12
  We don't want to kill each other, right, So, I mean,
• 31:15
  I could just I could see that more. They're supposedly intelligent creatures, and
• 31:19
  of course when we see the adult this time around, finally he's trying to
• 31:23
  bypass security protocalls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's true. So
• 31:29
  I mean I look at them as being very very intelligent, very very aggressive,
• 31:34
  but I would think that they're able to at least tell or talk to
• 31:37
  their young ones in terms of Okay, now's the time to compete. You
• 31:41
  know. It's like it's like a cockfight. You know, the roosters are
• 31:42
  going to go in there and compete, and who wins is going to be
• 31:45
  the best soldier. But now, hey, guess what, guys, we
• 31:47
  gotta take over the area and secure it and grow and breed. Don't kill
• 31:52
  each other, just make more. That's kind of the way I look at
• 31:55
  it, and that's why there's differences there. I can see that. I
• 32:00
  think it's in a reptile dysfunction. Yeah yeah, I think that this episode
• 32:08
  kind of showed me something in that they were calling back to their previous encounter
• 32:13
  with them saying we learned, you know, about the lights, and that
• 32:15
  they somehow communicate with lights and everything. I'm hoping that they have like a
• 32:22
  roadmap, like the writers of what they want to eventually get the Gorn to
• 32:25
  be. Yeah, it sounds like it, but you know, I guess
• 32:30
  we'll find out. We'll find out in twenty twenty five. Yeah. Yeah,
• 32:35
  they got plenty of time to think about where they're gonna do with them.
• 32:38
  Well, Gentry brings up a good point. He says, for a
• 32:40
  species that communicates with light, it sure was figuring out that security override quickly.
• 32:46
  Now here's the thing, Gentry. We know that they communicate with light,
• 32:52
  but that doesn't mean that they only communicate with light. I go back
• 32:57
  to you go back to that episode when they're doing that, and then you
• 33:00
  go to this episode where they've put that beacon down or whatever to scramble all
• 33:04
  the communications, right, well, scrambles their own as well, and so
• 33:07
  therefore they have to use light to communicate when they're trying to jam everything else.
• 33:13
  Right, So I don't think that they only communicate with light. I
• 33:16
  think that's kind of that's that's so limiting, honestly, unless it's like an
• 33:21
  optical thing that you think gets picked up and translated back. But I mean
• 33:24
  they clearly have a language they can clearly read or something. He's tapping away
• 33:29
  in those controls, going nuts on it, trying to break that the override.
• 33:31
  So I look at that as just one of their techniques. Yeah,
• 33:37
  they else they have interstellar travel. They can communicate with some other way clicking
• 33:45
  a flashlight at each other. I think when when we're the universal translator finally
• 33:50
  kicks in and we can interpret all the hissing and growling and we get a
• 33:54
  voice. Now, I really want them to all to have strong box in
• 33:59
  Boston, a sense maybe angry. Yeah, so two things with that.
• 34:07
  Wolf asked a good question. He says, what was the Gorn trying to
• 34:08
  get to? Obviously he's trying to get to whatever He's trying to get into
• 34:12
  the computer. He's trying to get dating. He's trying to get all the
• 34:14
  background details deployment, ships, rosters, numbers, crew locations, he's trying
• 34:19
  to get all that kind of stuff. That's to me, that's the only
• 34:21
  thing I could think that they want or care about. There's just locations of
• 34:23
  more food, because they really do look at at every other race is food.
• 34:29
  Honestly, so far at this point, that's all we've seen. So
• 34:31
  and then the other thought, though it'll come back to me the second.
• 34:37
  I had two things there, but whatever, So I thought it was interesting,
• 34:43
  you know, when he's talking when Pike is talking to Admiral April there,
• 34:46
  Yeah, I got that feedback again. Yeah, it's gone. Yeah,
• 34:52
  and he says, you know, he says something like, you know,
• 34:58
  well, maybe we just don't understand them. And Pike says, they're
• 35:01
  not hard to understand, Bob, They're monsters, right, And he says,
• 35:06
  monsters a word to describe. Uh, thanks, who don't understand Yeah,
• 35:12
  those who don't understand us and Pike without skipping a beat, sometimes a
• 35:15
  monster is just a monster. And I kind of got echoes. I know
• 35:22
  they're not saying the exact same thing, but I got I got echoes of
• 35:24
  Star Trek six the Undiscovered Country, when Kirk and Spock are discussing the Klingons.
• 35:30
  Yeah, and he says, Jim, there's a historic opportunity here.
• 35:34
  Don't believe him, don't trust them. He says they're dying. He says,
• 35:37
  let him die. Yeah, Yeah, I'm sure they were. They
• 35:42
  were thinking that for shadow in that. I just I just look at it
• 35:46
  that that they're they're doing a good job at least layering all the different sides
• 35:51
  of the Gorn and keeping a lot of it in mystery, not knowing exactly
• 35:53
  what the whole endgame thing there is. And for me, I look at
• 35:57
  the Gorn is like it's just a species that consumes. They're very intelligent,
• 36:01
  they're very aggressive, and they just consume. Bronson asss Betel gone. I
• 36:07
  think she's dead. Yeah, I think that's that's more dramatic than she survives.
• 36:14
  And we keep going. We've seen way too much of her this year.
• 36:17
  Yeah. Yeah, he's always around in her ship. There's a relationship
• 36:21
  thing there. We know he's without her down the road. He knows he
• 36:27
  knows he's without her down the roads well, you know, and he hasn't
• 36:31
  said it yet, but I'm sure he's he's going to say that. You
• 36:36
  know, in my visions, I didn't I didn't see her when when the
• 36:40
  me from the future visited me last season, he didn't mention her at all.
• 36:46
  Gentry says, next season, we're gonna have a Gorn dance number.
• 36:50
  Yeah, So that reminds me of the other point I was going to make
• 36:53
  about the Gorn, this this whole theory. They came up with the CSM
• 36:58
  or whatever is the Colonel Massim asked the coronal mass ejection and that draws the
• 37:01
  Gorn in No, no, no, no, no, totally wrong and
• 37:05
  backwards. That's that makes them sound so insect like and so yeah, that
• 37:10
  makes them sound like they're dumb. Yeah, I don't think that's the case
• 37:15
  at all. I think that they created that because they were trying to clear
• 37:19
  out the area. I got a great transition speaking of dumb. Let's go
• 37:22
  over our predictions. Oh boy, So we did a bunch of Yeah,
• 37:31
  you may want to write down numbers here. We did a bunch of predictions
• 37:35
  for at the beginning of the season what we thought would happen. We went
• 37:38
  by likely and unlikely. So let's go through them all. First one was
• 37:45
  number one, returns to the ship for good within the first episode. So
• 37:52
  Chad said that this was unlikely, and both myself and Dan said that it
• 37:57
  was likely. Chad was correct. Chad was correct. You didn't show up
• 38:01
  until the second episode, So I get a point for that. You get
• 38:05
  a point for that. Okay, So one point for Chad zero zero,
• 38:09
  Daniel and Daniel right now we got. Next one was Spock turns evil for
• 38:15
  at least one episode. Chad and Dan both said that that was likely,
• 38:20
  and I said it was unlikely. It didn't happen, So that's one point
• 38:23
  for me. Oh man, yeah. Next one was we visit the Mirror
• 38:30
  Universe. Chad said unlikely. I also said unlikely. Dan said it was
• 38:38
  likely. So both both Chad and I get a point because it did not.
• 38:42
  Oh my god, I'm doing horrible here. For three Dan, you're
• 38:46
  oh for three, Daniel and I are tied. Yep, three or two?
• 38:52
  Oh for three. We've done three of them now and you didn't get
• 38:53
  any of them. Yeah, you each got. So it's it's three G
• 38:58
  three you're you're over three. Daniel is zero one one. I am one
• 39:05
  zero one. Okay, all right, see each guy two? Yes,
• 39:08
  yes, okay. Next one, the new Chief Engineer survives the season and
• 39:15
  remains on the ship. So both Chad and Dan said that it was unlikely,
• 39:21
  and I was correct and said it was likely. I just yeah,
• 39:24
  I I don't understand how they didn't kill her, especially with Scott right there.
• 39:30
  Scotti's there now right, Well, we do have a cliffhanger, so
• 39:35
  yeah, yeah, So if she dies in the next episode, does that
• 39:37
  kills because it's the two parter, does that kid can't go back and retroactlively?
• 39:43
  Fix this candle? Nope, nope, Yeah, Daniel's ahead. Three.
• 39:49
  Number five, the ship blows up. Both myself and Chad said it
• 39:55
  was unlikely, and Dan said it was likely, and Dan was Dan was
• 40:00
  wrong, and Shad and I were correct. Man oh man, man man.
• 40:07
  I was running away with this though he's four to five. Next one,
• 40:10
  Pike's ultimate fate is somehow avoided. Chad said unlikely, Dan said unlikely.
• 40:19
  I said unlikely. So we all got it correct and finally got one.
• 40:22
  Yeah. Yeah, but at all No, of course not. I
• 40:29
  think I think at this point you can't. I mean, I don't know
• 40:31
  how many predictions we have one more left. Yeah, it's no way for
• 40:36
  you to catch up tie, all right. Next one, Hammer returns in
• 40:43
  a flashback or otherwise. Oh lord. Chad got this wrong by saying unlikely,
• 40:49
  whereas Dan and I both said it likely. Yeah, happened in episode
• 40:52
  six. Yep, there's a good episode. It was a good episode,
• 40:55
  all right. Number seven, we see cartoon version of at least two Strange
• 41:00
  New World's crew members during the crossover. Chad got it incorrect by saying unlikely,
• 41:08
  whereas Dan and I said likely, And we had the big room scene
• 41:13
  with pretty much all of them. So I'm I'm gaining on Chad. I
• 41:19
  don't need to beat Daniel, but I need to beat Chad, all right.
• 41:25
  Number nine Discovery gets name dropped. They have to say the name.
• 41:32
  Both Chad and myself said likely. Dan was the only one who was correct
• 41:37
  to say unlikely because it didn't happen. All right, So I'm tied with
• 41:42
  Chad. And then the last one there is a reference to an Enterprise character.
• 41:49
  We all got it correct by saying likely because it did happen in the
• 41:52
  crossover. They name dropped Archer, Hoshi and Mayweather. Yeah, yeah,
• 42:00
  all right, I tied Chad. I can live with that, Okay,
• 42:04
  Yep, yep, tied. Ganga ran away with it. One two,
• 42:07
  So you got eight out of ten. Yeah, you only missed two,
• 42:08
  so we got eight out of ten. Wow? Yeah, good job.
• 42:12
  Wow. Yeah, So we'll have to do this again for Strange New Worlds.
• 42:16
  You mean lower decks lower decks? Yeah? Whatever, So what did
• 42:22
  the winner you get a golden dribble a double dog sandwich from the opening.
• 42:27
  Yeah, which which has been sitting in there all this time? I want
• 42:30
  that sandwich looking sandwich. Yeah it is. We got out on a pontoon
• 42:37
  on the lake here close by yesterday. Kind of a new thing we're gonna
• 42:42
  do at the end of the summer before the kids go back to school.
• 42:45
  We'll get out on a on a boat for a couple of hours. And
• 42:47
  we took sandwiches with us, and we did, we did. We didn't
• 42:50
  have sandwich looked like that, but we had sandwich a regular old Hogy style
• 42:53
  on the funds. But it's fun, nice good sandwich. Right on.
• 43:00
  Well, let's get to feedback. Well, oh yeah, I had I
• 43:04
  had a couple of things in my notes. Oh yeah, you go first.
• 43:07
  So they keep mentioning doctor Corby that Chapel is going to go do this
• 43:10
  internship or whatever it is. Yeah, he is from TS. I don't
• 43:15
  know if you guys realized, but that is her ex fiance, so she
• 43:21
  gets involved, right yeah, yeah, what else do we have? Star
• 43:29
  Trek Trope in three two, one and go. I'm about to disobey our
• 43:34
  orders. Feel free to participate yes, I kind of, you know,
• 43:42
  I do one of those whenever that whenever that happens, here's gotta be like
• 43:45
  one guy who's like, what they told us, leave, let's leave.
• 43:49
  I'm just getting my shirt on. Leave. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:54
  So this got me a little bit worried. Okay, when Pike said you
• 43:59
  were born for this, Erica, are we gonna lose her? Yep?
• 44:04
  I thought about that. Yep, because it's I hope not because she's I
• 44:10
  don't know why, but she's really grown on me. Yeah yeah this season,
• 44:15
  So I hope, I hope we don't lose her. But hearing that
• 44:19
  got me worried. I don't want to lose any of this crew except for
• 44:23
  except for Sam Kirk. You can go, please she honestly, honestly though
• 44:32
  honestly, I hate to admit this, but she's actually grown on me a
• 44:37
  little too. She's she's a fun, weird, little odd comic relief at
• 44:42
  the at the wrong moment sometimes other times it's okay, I uh yeah,
• 44:47
  I think she's all right. She's not as bad as when it started.
• 44:50
  When it started off, I was like, what the hell, I don't
• 44:53
  know. The last three or four episodes, Uh yeah, she's okay,
• 44:57
  she's okay. I I hate to see her go yeah, but she will
• 45:01
  will. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I have two more things
• 45:06
  on my list that just kind of didn't make sense or didn't make sense to
• 45:10
  me. Okay, Spock says, placing rockets is a nearly impossible task.
• 45:16
  No human can do it, but I can. Why Why is it impossible
• 45:22
  for for for a human to put on a space suit? And yeah,
• 45:30
  and I'm good. I know. I know that they needed it to be
• 45:32
  him right so that she can see him through the window and you know,
• 45:37
  their love full pull them together in space or whatever. I know, I
• 45:43
  know that's what they wanted. But it just seemed real lazy to just say
• 45:47
  I'm the only one who can do it, and here's and here's why they
• 45:52
  had it would have been something else. Oh no, and this is this
• 45:54
  is the stupid part of this is a really bad writing in this particular case,
• 45:59
  because all I really had to say was Spock was like, I will
• 46:01
  do it. And if anybody starts to speak, he'll just look at him
• 46:04
  and say I will do it. Anybody else tries to sit and he'll just
• 46:07
  cut him off. I will do it. And he'll just get it.
• 46:08
  He should just get up and walk out the door and just go do it.
• 46:12
  Yeah, and there's the real one. Number one turns to someone and
• 46:15
  says he needs to do this. Yeah, you just need to do it.
• 46:16
  Let's say. So, that's it. It's so simple. It's so
• 46:20
  simple. You know. Actually, actually he needs to do it because he
• 46:24
  wants to do it, but he also wants to look for her while he's
• 46:28
  there. That's the perfect that's the perfect reason to put him over there.
• 46:32
  It is, it is. Gentry makes a good point. They needed precise
• 46:36
  locations like the rockets. That's the only thing I could come up with as
• 46:39
  far as why only a Vulcan could do it, because he has to go
• 46:43
  over there, make some sort of mathematical judgment, figure out the exact placement,
• 46:47
  wait displacement, and he has to do some of those calculations in his
• 46:51
  head. That's the only but but they didn't even bring that, like if
• 46:54
  if, even if they would have modified that as part of his little speech,
• 47:00
  that would have made it a little better. But no, all they
• 47:02
  really had to say was he would All he had to do was just stand
• 47:06
  up and say I will do it and walk out the freaking door, like,
• 47:07
  Mike Drop, I don't even talk to me. I'm doing it right.
• 47:12
  So the other thing that didn't make sense is they can't scan for life
• 47:17
  signs on the saucer section, but they're willing to just push it into the
• 47:22
  planet. Yep, And no one objected to that. Yeah, yeah,
• 47:28
  I don't understand that at all. That was a weird moment. Well,
• 47:30
  there's lots of weird moments in this episode, but that was one of the
• 47:32
  weirdest ones. Whereas at that moment, Spock should be pissed off, like
• 47:37
  you're gonna kill Chapel, Like that's because that's his only motivation at this point.
• 47:42
  There needed to be something where they figure out a way to connect to
• 47:49
  the internal sensors on the saucer section and use those sensors to look for life
• 47:54
  signs, and they can't and they can't find any, and that's why they're
• 48:00
  like, Okay, there's nobody alive over there. We're gonna push this thing
• 48:02
  into the planet. But the reason, the reason that they can't detect Chapel
• 48:08
  is because she put herself in the MRI machine to to hide from the Gorner
• 48:15
  whatever. I don't know, they needed something, They needed something, and
• 48:20
  they just didn't do it. They kind of glazed over and it didn't make
• 48:22
  sense. And I think I think they're worse off for it, but very
• 48:27
  much so. And then when they get to the planet, they know it's
• 48:30
  a highly unstable feet you know, it's an area they're going into where there
• 48:37
  it's very hostile, right, It's gonna be a very very hostile area.
• 48:40
  So they get all weaponed up, they get all suited up, and they
• 48:44
  turn on every fucking flashlight they have, both on their shoulders, their guns,
• 48:47
  everything, they're the devices, all of it. They just turn on
• 48:51
  everything and they start and they start scanning and pinging and just hey, everybody,
• 48:53
  we're over here. Like, I don't understand to a species they know
• 49:00
  at this point. All they do know is that this species communicates with light.
• 49:04
  So let's just use all the lights we can use. Like, this
• 49:07
  is such a ridiculous gloss over thing that they did because they're walking around.
• 49:15
  Yeah, yeah, come at me, bro, But they should have turned
• 49:20
  all the lights off, they should have turned all the devices off, and
• 49:22
  they should have walked in stealth. And then as far as it being black
• 49:25
  and hard to see, and yet yet then skip that part. Have them
• 49:30
  just all of a sudden be inside of a building somewhere, sitting down and
• 49:32
  crouching down and have some you know, red shirt guy say, I can't
• 49:37
  believe we did all of that all that way in the dark, like being
• 49:42
  like the species does communicate with light, you know, you know, just
• 49:45
  a funny comic moment there, Yeah, night vision something. I mean it
• 49:47
  is, they do have advanced tech. I mean, come on, guys.
• 49:51
  Yeah, so before we get to feedback, Scotty, Yes, I
• 49:59
  was saving that for last Yeah, looks good for Scotty, he does.
• 50:05
  He looks good for a young Scotti. Sounds right and also comes off as
• 50:10
  is definitely able to mcgiver his way out of anything. So I like,
• 50:14
  I liked it. I thought it was great. Now. I hope he's
• 50:17
  here again for season three as a mainstay. At this point, I'm sure
• 50:23
  he will be. Yeah. Yeah, so I liked him. I think
• 50:30
  I think he looks good. Yeah. I think he reminds me of James
• 50:35
  Stuhan. Some of his speech and his mannerisms remind me of Simon Peg.
• 50:43
  Yeah, a little bit, but it's but it's like he took Simon Peg
• 50:46
  and let's let's turn him down to like a six. Yeah, and I
• 50:52
  think that was a good I think that was a good move. I liked
• 50:58
  I liked Simon Peg in that role, but I think he was turned up
• 51:01
  to eleven every time he opened his mouth, and it was it was a
• 51:07
  little too much at times. He was almost a caricature of Scottie. And
• 51:14
  yeah, I'm excited to see where this guy goes. I can't wait till
• 51:16
  how he meets his little buddy in Strange New Worlds. Well, that guy
• 51:22
  is from the other the alternate timeline, but yeah, yeah, but you
• 51:23
  can bring him in. That guy was great. Yeah, yeah, get
• 51:28
  down from that. To me, like they very clearly went, well,
• 51:32
  we need a Chewbacca, but we want him to be small. Yeah.
• 51:38
  Yeah, So what do you think is gonna happen? How's the cliffhanger resolved?
• 51:45
  Let's do that. M hm. He's gonna pull He's gonna he's gonna
• 51:54
  pull out, He's gonna pull out of there. I still think Betil dies
• 51:59
  for yeah, and I think her death is would freeze the rest of them
• 52:02
  sometimes. Yeah, I'm just gonna die. Heroes death, Yeah, m
• 52:08
  hmm, I don't know, do you think we'll have peace between the Gorn
• 52:15
  after all this or will it just be more. I don't think we'll have
• 52:21
  peace. I don't think they'll do a Yeah, I don't think they'll do
• 52:27
  a full blown war with the Gorn kind of thing. No, I don't
• 52:30
  think that. But I think they'll be still left a lingering threat who's maybe
• 52:34
  been injured in some way. I also think it's funny that, you know,
• 52:43
  another season no Sibak. Yeah, you're right, you're right. We
• 52:50
  may never see him, you know. I really think it was one of
• 52:53
  those things. Put it in. Let's see if the Internet likes it.
• 52:55
  Oh, they didn't care, Okay, never again. Yeah, but that's
• 53:00
  just it. It'd be funny if they did. Yeah. Do you think
• 53:02
  we'll see to bring again like in the whole series? Ever? Probably?
• 53:07
  I mean in theory you should. We shouldn't. Well, we have to
• 53:10
  because there's still betrothed to each other by the times. Yeah, that's right,
• 53:15
  but they can just handle that in t OS and leave it. Leave
• 53:17
  it out of this well. And one of the producers was saying, is
• 53:21
  they're they're hoping to go to twenty episode seasons. So if they do that,
• 53:27
  really geez, really, I think he's just excited and yeah, I
• 53:30
  don't see that. I don't really happening. But yeah, would love that
• 53:35
  that's closer to the old model. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd love
• 53:39
  it too, But I just don't. I just don't think that's feasible for
• 53:42
  them financially with hither at right now, I think we're gonna come full circle.
• 53:45
  I think I think twenty twenty five, they're gonna announce all right,
• 53:50
  we got this crazy idea. We're putting this on broadcast televisions for free,
• 53:59
  because you know, everything old is new again. M hm, Well,
• 54:06
  Una can't die, Bronson, that's the funny thing about that. Una can't
• 54:09
  die, but tell us most certainly can Terrivil episodes hurt less when there's twenty
• 54:15
  of them. Yeah, there's more bad episodes, Yeah, because there's more
• 54:21
  things to write and someone else did make. This season has way way more
• 54:25
  highs and way more lows. It was way less consistent from last season.
• 54:30
  That's true. I agree with that. I think there's probably only one or
• 54:31
  two dads from last season. This season was like a half and half.
• 54:36
  Yeah, well if if if you like the musical episode this season, when
• 54:40
  there's twenty episodes, You're gonna get one every season. I really wanted to
• 54:45
  hate that episode. I went into that episode. I went into that episode
• 54:50
  just I am gonna hate this. I am just I can't stand music goals.
• 54:54
  I just I just I want I put it off and put it off
• 54:58
  and put it off. I did not want to watch it. I almost
• 55:00
  just skipped it, and then I watched it. I actually watched the podcast
• 55:07
  first before I watched the episode, and your guys opening reactions made me stop
• 55:10
  the podcast and then go watch the episode, because okay, okay, you're
• 55:15
  right. That first song at the very beginning, when they very first sing
• 55:19
  for the first time, man, that's excellent. The way they pulled that
• 55:22
  off was so good. And I can't stand musicals, but I mean,
• 55:27
  but but that that was so good. I really enjoyed that. And there
• 55:30
  are times when they do the back to back it's kind of like, okay,
• 55:34
  this is too much, too much, too much. But when the
• 55:37
  Klingons did their K pop thing, oh my god, I laughed so hard.
• 55:42
  I probably watched that like six times. It was just hilarious. There
• 55:45
  are parts of it that were painful, but man, those two right there
• 55:49
  were just worth the whole thing. It was so good. So all of
• 55:52
  those songs are up on YouTube. Yeah, like sing along where the where
• 55:59
  the the lyrics come up on the screen. And I'm gonna make a confession.
• 56:04
  Oh, he's memorized one of them. I wore these last week while
• 56:12
  I was mowing the lawn. Was mowing the lawn, and you know,
• 56:17
  when you're mowing the lawn, you could sing along to yourself and nobody can
• 56:21
  hear you because the lawn mower was going. But yeah, I was listening
• 56:24
  to Star Trek the musical while I was mowing the lawn last week. So
• 56:29
  whatever, Yeah, mostly the first one and the last one. Yeah,
• 56:34
  mostly, he says that. Yeah, no, I listened. I listened
• 56:37
  to all of them, but Jazz listened to. Sorry, that's awesome and
• 56:49
  I really enjoyed it. So yeah, I didn't want to. I didn't
• 56:52
  expect to, but I did. I didn't want to either. I didn't
• 56:53
  expect to, but I did. I did enjoy it. All right,
• 56:57
  very cool, All all right, Well, let's let's get to feedback then,
• 57:01
  Yeah, feedback. Hey, hey, hey, I missed that and
• 57:14
  miss all this. I gotta see if we have any boy smails you go
• 57:21
  ahead and do your thing. All I do have one. We got a
• 57:23
  pack liad review. I don't know if you saw this, Chad, but
• 57:27
  we we've found a way to alter them, oh and make them a little
• 57:30
  more visual. So let's get to our pack lid review. Ladies and gentlemen,
• 57:37
  Welcome to the new and improved pack lead review special. Thanks to host,
• 57:44
  producer and heart of track cast Daniel Reyes and now star Trek Strange,
• 57:53
  New Worlds Season two finale Hedgem and had John had had Him? Episode ten
• 58:04
  a pac led review. Scotti's here. He makes the ship go. Thanks
• 58:15
  for listening to a pac led review. That's amazing. You're smart. He
• 58:24
  makes the ship go talking baseball. I don't know, I don't know.
• 58:30
  That's pretty good though. All he's missing is the uh well, what was
• 58:36
  there was the team name on DS nine when they had then the Niners?
• 58:39
  Yeah, I was thinking it was nine something Niners sixty nine. If you
• 58:44
  send me voicemails in the future, I can do that ahead of time,
• 58:47
  Okay, all the voicemails can be little figures and yeah, well this voicemail
• 58:52
  I got at seven forty six last night, so I'm nice. I'll play
• 59:00
  it now. Okay, Hey Chad, it's it's strong Beard. Listen.
• 59:07
  There's there's no easy way to say this, so I'm I'm gonna have to
• 59:15
  drop you as a producer of the pack Fled review. Listen. I'm sorry.
• 59:22
  It's it's just that I found somebody else that just knows how to give
• 59:28
  a better quality recording to the show. And you know, it's it's not
• 59:34
  your fault, you know, And and I'm still gonna, you know,
• 59:37
  listen to your host, you know, from time to time. But you
• 59:44
  know, I'm sorry I had to end this way, and I'm sorry I
• 59:46
  had to tell you over voicemail. But yeah, sorry, man, you
• 59:51
  and I are are done. I listen to the best of lust in all
• 59:54
  your endeavors, and hopefully we'll be on the pod. You know what's great
• 1:00:00
  about that? I had no idea what he was gonna say. That was
• 1:00:04
  a perfect I never listened to these things ahead of time. That was it
• 1:00:08
  puts the lotion on it. Damn. Oh man, that was so good.
• 1:00:19
  The only other voicemail I got was your what did it say? Your
• 1:00:23
  order was dropped off? Yeah, never mind, that was nice. Well,
• 1:00:29
  I'm glad you got your door to I did. Oh boy, I
• 1:00:32
  don't think we got oh we got no, we got nothing else. We
• 1:00:35
  got nothing else. That's it all right, Well, we got Jasmind weighting
• 1:00:38
  on the line, so let's bring him on there he is. How's everybody
• 1:00:45
  doing? Good man right behind him? Yep, yep, yeah from the
• 1:00:50
  board, they're coming. So I thought we established that was the Ferengi thing
• 1:00:54
  that control Jean Luke's mind. It's whatever you wanted to be. It could
• 1:00:59
  be. I think it is. Actually there's a little guy inside there riding
• 1:01:02
  a motorcycle. Yeah, it's a little Hamster motorcycle. Little guy Joe on
• 1:01:08
  a motorcycle. And there you go. You friction from its with lights up
• 1:01:12
  the room. Yeah, I got nothing from Tim. Where is our British
• 1:01:19
  guy? Yeah? Where is Tim? Yeah? Where is Yeah? We're
• 1:01:23
  maybe the musical episode blew up his mind. Yeah, maybe he's he's on
• 1:01:29
  strike because I wasn't here. That's what it is. That's right now,
• 1:01:32
  Chad, watch out because strong birds coming for you. Yeah, he's coming
• 1:01:38
  for you because he's drink this well, he's he wants to change the podcast
• 1:01:46
  to DS mine and bring in me and Gentry and we could be the miners
• 1:01:54
  and where mining mining station. I think it's been a long time since anybody
• 1:02:00
  you guys have been miners. Miners. We'll just have to keep Sam Kirk
• 1:02:07
  away from you. Yeah, so the mining crew is coming for you.
• 1:02:14
  So what do you think of the episode? Jabin? I liked it.
• 1:02:15
  I really like it. It was it was a good cliffhanger ending. I
• 1:02:20
  liked it. I was like, because I paused the show when I was
• 1:02:23
  like, there's only three minutes left, what's gonna happen? Like all this
• 1:02:27
  stuff's going on, I was like, Oh no, it's a to be
• 1:02:30
  continued, and now we gotta wait till twenty twenty six when it comes out.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah, you're twenty thirty five whenever it comes out, and it gonna
• 1:02:43
  be the it's gonna be the twenty third century before they resolved this the thing.
• 1:02:46
  And then when they slashed the budget and fire all the actors that they
• 1:02:50
  didn't like or whatever, everybody will be replaced and I'll have cardboards, new
• 1:02:54
  actors for everybody. Yeah, I'll be like the old Doctor Who and everybody
• 1:03:00
  has like a cardboard and that way has armor or anything. Yeah, but
• 1:03:07
  you can see the budget was kind of slashed for this planet, because when
• 1:03:12
  you went on the planet, you're like, really, you went to Guthrie,
• 1:03:15
  Oklahoma, and you you made a town. You gotta save that money
• 1:03:23
  for that cg with that. No, they didn't have to go anywhere.
• 1:03:27
  They just dialed up Hallmark and said, can we use one of your sets?
• 1:03:30
  Yeah, yes, I mean it. There's a few towns around here
• 1:03:35
  that look exactly like that town. Oh yeah, there's yeah, a ton
• 1:03:38
  of them. But I guess it makes sense because they're there. It's the
• 1:03:43
  undiscovered country. They're colonizing the planet, and now you gotta deal with the
• 1:03:47
  natives and sometimes that happens so and want to eat you either way. Yeah,
• 1:03:54
  I mean you think about it like that happened here. So we did
• 1:04:00
  the same thing, same thing with the Marquis. Yeah, same thing with
• 1:04:03
  the Maquis. You had an issue with them, just go had to deal
• 1:04:06
  with the monkeys and Ellington or whatever Eddington, and you know, it was
• 1:04:12
  just one of those things. Is they're trying to expand uh was it not
• 1:04:18
  star Fleet but the Federation? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And so what
• 1:04:25
  do you think will happen after the cliffhanger? Like how do they resolve this
• 1:04:28
  thing. Well, I think Ptel's gonna die. Okay, there's no way
• 1:04:31
  they could say we're because we all know what happens to Pike ends up on
• 1:04:35
  the planet blah blah blah. Right, he ends up with the one lady.
• 1:04:40
  So Ptel's gonna die. And I want to know where is m Benga
• 1:04:46
  because why aren't you talking to your doctor about helping Betel? Oh he got
• 1:04:54
  he got beamed up with with the born. Oh so he got beamed up
• 1:04:58
  with the he's with the go Yeah, because I was thinking they could to
• 1:05:03
  put her in the not the transporter. What does the Embanga do when he
• 1:05:10
  throws them in the buff but yeah, yeah, they make that. They
• 1:05:15
  just quick to see what's going on. They put her because they get throw
• 1:05:17
  her in the buffer savor. That way, they could possibly do that until
• 1:05:24
  they could figure out how to get the eggs out of her extracted without Yeah,
• 1:05:28
  but they got they gotta have some sort of time to look at it
• 1:05:30
  and study it before they do that. So there's other medical besides Embanga,
• 1:05:38
  and there's Chapel on this ship. Yeah ship, Well we've seen them.
• 1:05:43
  Well, yeah, because you have different shifts, you can't just be doctor
• 1:05:45
  I mean, there's also a colony there. There's got to be doctors on
• 1:05:49
  that colony. You don't start a colony and not have any medical uh staff
• 1:05:56
  to go down and give them innoculations. I had another thought. Even if
• 1:06:02
  she does survive, their relationship is over because you know, she basically told
• 1:06:11
  him, you're an idiot. You you made bad tactical decisions because we're involved,
• 1:06:19
  and that can't happen again. So she could survive and they break up
• 1:06:24
  because of this, Yeah, yeah, that's true. Well he did get
• 1:06:30
  a nurse Chapel a bigger hug than he did her, so well, I
• 1:06:36
  mean, and Admiral April's like Avereral. April's like, I don't want this
• 1:06:42
  to color your judgment, and he's like, it won't. It absolutely will,
• 1:06:45
  but it absolutely will. I sell you won't. And I'm a turno
• 1:06:48
  right around. I'm gonna get my woman. How many times they defied orders
• 1:06:53
  this season? Admiral April's like, what's the point of being an admiral anymore?
• 1:06:59
  That he's like anyone listening to me, anyone at all? As the
• 1:07:05
  absolute worst. Yeah, the upper admirals are like, Bob, what is
• 1:07:13
  it you do around here? Yeah. Yeah, Well at that point you
• 1:07:18
  think you catch on and be like, Okay, I want them to do
• 1:07:21
  this, which means they'll do that. So I'm gonna go ahead and just
• 1:07:24
  tell them to do that so that they just go and do this. I
• 1:07:27
  mean, it's really that easy. My uncle for family barbecues, we always
• 1:07:30
  know he's gonna be late, so we tell him that it's going to start
• 1:07:33
  an hour before we actually wanted to start late. Anyways. Yeah, that's
• 1:07:40
  what family does to me. Then I caught on. I'm like, hey,
• 1:07:43
  it really starts at this time, so we could go a little late.
• 1:07:46
  Ye, just do like I do and just not show up with the
• 1:07:50
  family at all. Wow, we do have a lot of people waiting on
• 1:07:57
  the line, so we should Yeah, which as anything else you want to
• 1:08:00
  say before we get well, it's gonna suck because we have the strike and
• 1:08:03
  it's gonna take way too much time. Yeah, it's gonna be a long
• 1:08:06
  time. It's gonna be a long time, and then you know, I
• 1:08:11
  guess we're gonna have to look forward to Discovery next. It's such a shame
• 1:08:15
  that we're gonna make Star Trek four. Also, yeah, yeah, really
• 1:08:21
  weird. It was by the time to make the next Star Trek. They're
• 1:08:24
  gonna be as old as yeah, next generation and all them in the movies
• 1:08:30
  like we'll just bring We'll just bring shot in her back. It's fine.
• 1:08:34
  They're all gonna be gray headed and old and you're like, wow, what
• 1:08:38
  happened? And yeah, it's like pretty much scrap all that. They they're
• 1:08:42
  gonna have to move forward and reboot. Yeah, or like the Star Trek
• 1:08:47
  generations, I'm ready for the next, like let's get out of this timeline
• 1:08:53
  and let's move Yeah, they need to reboot as generation or it's the next
• 1:08:57
  the next Expendals movie. Yeah. Yeah, and and next season. I
• 1:09:03
  want to see aliens. I want to see Strange New World Yeah, I
• 1:09:13
  want to I have more more than one alien, like name the Aliens that
• 1:09:17
  Discovery Voyager or Strange New Worlds Lower Decks and Discovery like all them. Nobody's
• 1:09:28
  at it anything in card Yeah, like have you seen a Sprange New World?
• 1:09:34
  Keen? Name a new alien besides Seris race, the Kelpians m hm,
• 1:09:43
  Discovery. Yeah, I barely I barely watched this, yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:48
  The only I remembers the moths people. It's like, oh that's kind
• 1:09:51
  of unique and then they jump damine and important. But I don't want to
• 1:09:56
  see exploration. I almost see the human condition and in alien Yeah I missed
• 1:10:00
  that. Yeah, agreeable, Thanks jests viz. Okay, I'll see next
• 1:10:06
  to you guys. Sorry, yeah, that's what we have, huh and
• 1:10:14
  we'll just like see you guys. And we got more. We got more.
• 1:10:19
  We got in gorn shirt. Yeah. Yeah, Tel's gonna go bat
• 1:10:28
  bye bye. What do you think? Well, first of us, I
• 1:10:41
  was thrown off by the cliffhanger. I wasn't expecting a cliffanger at all.
• 1:10:45
  Yeah, but you know, it just brings me back to the best of
• 1:10:50
  best of both worlds. Yeah, best of both worlds era where oh crap,
• 1:10:57
  they got the card? What do we do now? And like a
• 1:11:00
  similar thing. Yeah, I like what they did with Scotty. I was
• 1:11:09
  kind of pissed because I didn't get a chance to watch it till last night
• 1:11:12
  since I was out of town and I was scanning through Facebook and it was
• 1:11:15
  like this one of those video articles. I just had a picture and they
• 1:11:18
  mentioned something engineering and like, crap, Yeah it wasn't Yeah, it wasn't
• 1:11:27
  even mentioning it everything. But you kind of know a guy in a red
• 1:11:29
  shirt. Yeah, you kind of know that with Scotty when they said engineer.
• 1:11:33
  So but I was happy. I think I think they did a great
• 1:11:35
  job. Yeah, I'm excited to see where it goes because we all thought
• 1:11:42
  he was on the Enterprise because of that one. Was it season one where
• 1:11:46
  you could hear a Scottish voice? Yeah, but they kind of give him
• 1:11:51
  a different backstory. It feels like, yeah, different and all that.
• 1:11:56
  But yeah, the way he engineered his way out and got away, I
• 1:12:00
  thought that was pretty cool. It just seemed very Scotty to me, something
• 1:12:03
  he would do, and it kind of very much shadows, yeah, what
• 1:12:08
  he does in the Delan Donohan. Yep. When Yeah, so I don't
• 1:12:14
  know, maybe this is where he learns how the pattern buffer a technology or
• 1:12:18
  a technique that only in Benga shares it. Yeah. So yeah, so
• 1:12:24
  he's a liar, is what you're saying. He makes out it was his
• 1:12:28
  idea. Yeah. Well, either that or the point point zero zero one
• 1:12:32
  percent of his pattern that degraded is the part that remembered where he learned to
• 1:12:36
  do that. There you go, what what he did he did extend it
• 1:12:42
  from maybe what couple a year or two or so many months too, like
• 1:12:45
  what seventy something years or something. So I think that was his real trick
• 1:12:50
  that they that he did without degradation. So I think that was who Still
• 1:12:55
  he still has that genius that I give him credit for. Yeah, people
• 1:13:00
  lasted that long, but yeah, I'm gonna be bored for the next couple
• 1:13:03
  of years years. Yeah, we got lower decks coming up. Yeah,
• 1:13:11
  followed by finally being done with Discovery. So each one of those episodes that
• 1:13:15
  we cover is gonna be kind of like fun from the from the idea that
• 1:13:19
  this is almost the last one. Too horrible that that, and you know
• 1:13:27
  if every other episode I let Scott or Gentry fill in for me. I
• 1:13:30
  mean, yeah, Heylan, that's a great plan. There you go.
• 1:13:38
  You guys can go take your vacations. You know, let the alpha shift
• 1:13:42
  or beta shift to take over. There you go be shift, Let the
• 1:13:46
  fourth let the fourth shift or whatever was third you know, fourth shift in
• 1:13:51
  fourth shift, rotation delta delta shift. Yeah, I just want to get
• 1:13:58
  some closure on this go at this point, I don't expect much if I
• 1:14:02
  just hope that whatever quests they're going on isn't going to be something where it's
• 1:14:09
  the end of the universe. If they don't succeed, it would be better
• 1:14:12
  off if they just left it as you know what, let's just go in
• 1:14:15
  the in the name of science or archaeology. We want to find this artifact
• 1:14:19
  has already say they've already the other end of the universe thing. Yeah,
• 1:14:27
  I mean, they just can't help themselves. Every season has to be that
• 1:14:32
  you're like this, like, come on, it's gonna be the end of
• 1:14:35
  instead of them someone's coming in and saying it's gonna be the end of the
• 1:14:39
  universitys you note, it's gonna be it's gonna be the end of the museum.
• 1:14:41
  If if we don't just gonna someone clips in and changes the word,
• 1:14:45
  well, you know what they might do because of the strike. They say,
• 1:14:48
  Hey, you know, we got ten episodes, they're about an hour
• 1:14:50
  long each. How about how about we break them up into twenty half hour
• 1:14:56
  episodes that we can stretch this out longer for for another you know, just
• 1:14:59
  to feel in the gap. Please don't just just rip the band aid off
• 1:15:05
  and release them all at once, drop them all at once, the hole
• 1:15:11
  on one episode and move on. I'm just hoping for Prodigy instead. So
• 1:15:17
  yeah, we don't have any updates on Prodigy. There they're trying to see
• 1:15:23
  the doctor back. Yeah, I know, I know, all right man,
• 1:15:30
  anyway, anything else you want to bring up? Yep, just excited
• 1:15:33
  for lower tech. So we'll see you guys in a couple of weeks.
• 1:15:44
  We should perfect the cling on pop thing though, for like a convention or
• 1:15:49
  something. Somebody at the next STLV there will be the cling on pop.
• 1:15:54
  Somebody's gonna be somebody's gonna dress up so good, it's so good, it's
• 1:15:57
  gonna happen. Yep, alright, right, thanks, thanks, uh yeah,
• 1:16:02
  thanks man. And then we got our last one waiting on the line,
• 1:16:05
  hipster Spock, so let's bring him on. Yeah buddy, Oh he's
• 1:16:12
  outside. Look at that. Look at those glasses competing with Dan. Okay,
• 1:16:17
  guys, can you hear me? Yeah, okay, I'm outside,
• 1:16:23
  I'm in. I went up these squares here in Poland, and let me
• 1:16:27
  just show you some of these sites. Is there what there's no gourd over
• 1:16:33
  there is there now at any moment? Yeah? Yeah, so this is
• 1:16:42
  so Yeah. I just wanted to pop in and say hello and everything.
• 1:16:45
  Yeah, thanks, and yeah, one question, like, Okay, you
• 1:16:51
  said that, you mentioned that there was gonna be like a twenty episode thing,
• 1:16:57
  and I really like that idea. Now, would you rather have twenty
• 1:17:01
  episodes of like one thing like Strange New Worlds or a bunch of different shows
• 1:17:09
  with ten episode teach M. I would like to go deeper into these characters.
• 1:17:18
  I would you know, you think back to Deep Space nine, and
• 1:17:21
  you think back to TNG and you think about Voyager. You know there was
• 1:17:26
  oh, okay, this is a Jordy episode or the eight the A story
• 1:17:30
  is a story about Jordy, and then the B, the B and C
• 1:17:33
  story or just the regular goings on on the ship. You know, I
• 1:17:39
  would like to see I would like to see an Eric or take a story
• 1:17:44
  where you know, yeah, that would be great. She goes home on
• 1:17:47
  she goes home on leave. Yeah, it's a story about her and you
• 1:17:51
  know, come to find out her dad was in Starfleet and he was a
• 1:17:55
  pilot too, and you know, whatever relationship they have and drama that's going
• 1:18:00
  on between the two of them, and yeah, the Beast story is we
• 1:18:03
  cut back to what's going on on the ship when someone else is flying the
• 1:18:06
  ship. This week, you know when you have ten episode season, you
• 1:18:10
  know, I feel like you don't get stuff like that. That's true.
• 1:18:13
  No, right, so I'm all four. I am all for the twenty
• 1:18:17
  episode seasons again, absolutely yep. But you only get one one series at
• 1:18:24
  a time though, like okay, maybe one series a season I mean a
• 1:18:28
  year, rather than like two or three different shows that that that might be
• 1:18:34
  the caveat because it costs so much. Yeah, I don't know, free
• 1:18:41
  I mean, how many law and orders do they have at a time?
• 1:18:44
  How many ncis is do you have at a time? Those are so much
• 1:18:47
  cheaper to produce and so much faster to produce. That's true too. But
• 1:18:53
  will you do You could produce it, right, you could do like what
• 1:18:57
  Hulu does? You air it on broadcast TV? You know that's where it
• 1:19:00
  premiers the next day's streaming, so you can have the streaming if you want.
• 1:19:06
  And that's it. Yeah. So so here's the thing, Chad,
• 1:19:12
  Erica Ortega's back on Earth visiting her parents doesn't cost anything to produce. And
• 1:19:18
  when you have when you have episodes like that that are character driven rather than
• 1:19:24
  special effects driven, you can actually bring your costs down by doing that.
• 1:19:29
  If you if you make us care about these characters and then give us stories
• 1:19:31
  about these characters, not the technology that they're using, it's not as expensive.
• 1:19:38
  You know, bottle episodes. Some of the best TNNG episodes are bottle
• 1:19:42
  episodes where they just use the sets that they have. That's true. I'm
• 1:19:47
  all for that. Yeah, yeah, Like I think like twenty episode things
• 1:19:58
  like Okay, if you have very musical episode, or if you have an
• 1:20:01
  episode that was just off, it's just a small percentage and everything else,
• 1:20:06
  like you know, spackles that over and you know, no harm, no
• 1:20:12
  foul. Right, But then if you have ten episodes and you have like
• 1:20:15
  one or two or three episodes where it's bad, then that's a big chunk
• 1:20:20
  of the season, right yeah, yeah, and your whole season's ruined basically.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think will happen in uh,
• 1:20:38
  how do they resolve the cliffhanger? Well, it's gonna happen in the first
• 1:20:44
  ten minutes of the next episode anyway, because that's how they always do it,
• 1:20:50
  right, Like I might decide, okay, fuck it, let's uh
• 1:21:02
  my lot the curse on here, go for it. But Pike might might
• 1:21:10
  just say, oh fuck it, let's just blast them all right, yeah,
• 1:21:13
  and and then or they might just high tell it out of there and
• 1:21:17
  then get get the cavalry and then go back to the planet to try to
• 1:21:25
  save the save the people on the corn ships and then the planet and all
• 1:21:30
  that stuff, and then and then with the Battel. Yeah, sorry,
• 1:21:34
  sorry for a plane, but I think you're gonna die, because yeah,
• 1:21:43
  he's gonna because if if Battel had, you know, been alive, they
• 1:21:49
  would have said something about it on the managerie or something, right, and
• 1:21:55
  he wouldn't be he wouldn't be going back to tell us to uh Raina that
• 1:22:01
  the blonde girl, right. Yeah, So yeah, I don't think Pattel's
• 1:22:09
  gonna survived. And I mean she's had there was a a post on it
• 1:22:15
  on the trek thing where she's had a bad time with a bottle of ketchup
• 1:22:23
  and yeah that's pretty Yeah, there's a there's a picture with with the lady
• 1:22:31
  who played patl and she's got all types of red stuff on her and you
• 1:22:38
  know, it's like ketchup on her and it's like and that's kind of like
• 1:22:43
  saying, oh, yeah, she's in big trouble. Okay, Okay,
• 1:22:51
  yeah. But one last thing, like when they talked about bringing down the
• 1:22:57
  force field or whatever, I got like returned up the Jedi vibes on that.
• 1:23:03
  You know, it's like like the planet is and or or something.
• 1:23:08
  Yeah, yeah, that's funny. I can't wait. You wants to come
• 1:23:14
  out and celebrate when they beat them. I hope they played the Yup yup
• 1:23:18
  song. There you go. They better you don't pike those words. That's
• 1:23:27
  the next musical. That is the next musical. Yes, all right,
• 1:23:31
  guys. Thanks, Hopefully we don't have to wait that long, but you
• 1:23:35
  know, I'm I'm not very optimistic, but talk to you later. Thanks.
• 1:23:44
  Thanks, all right. We did have one question from Duval who asked
• 1:23:50
  us what do we think the Gorn was trying to, you know, trying
• 1:23:55
  to get the command codes for But we kind of talked about that already,
• 1:23:59
  so yeah, yeah, I mean that's a speculation obviously, but I mean,
• 1:24:03
  from my standpoint, the only thing they'd want to get his information on
• 1:24:06
  locations, deployment, ship types. He wants. He wants trips, catfish
• 1:24:12
  recipe. Oh now, wouldn't that be hilarious if they're trying to get like
• 1:24:20
  real tactical data and all they can find is these people showing other people dishes
• 1:24:27
  like like like Instagram. That's all they get is Instagram photos. Feline supplement
• 1:24:32
  number. Yeah, yeah, alright it want porthos. You hush your mouth.
• 1:24:45
  You do not harm a hair on his head, not my special boy.
• 1:24:49
  Nope, all right, anything else you guys gonna bring up before we
• 1:24:57
  go? No, that's it. That's all I had made. Great show,
• 1:25:00
  Great glad to be back in the swing of it. One two weeks.
• 1:25:05
  I guess we're gonna have a break here. Well, yeah, we'll
• 1:25:08
  do it in two weeks. Not that I need a break. I'm ready
• 1:25:10
  to go. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, well you know you had
• 1:25:14
  a break. Yeah, we'll do it in two weeks. It'll probably be
• 1:25:18
  the predictions because we'll go through predictions for lower Dex and there we go.
• 1:25:24
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• 1:25:26
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• 1:25:30
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