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S4 E3 Bonus Episode - Genene Jones - Angels Of Death Part Two · True Crime and Wine Time

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Hello, Court Killers. It is Terry Dusoul, part of your duo team
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here with JT. Hello, Hi, everybody. I can't keep track of
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you know, what I'm doing on a day to day basis, but I
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unscrewed a wine bottle because I'm classic like that, and it's time to get
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into this. That's okay, that's why I love you. And we are
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covering there's gonna be three different cases covered, and we have a special fabulous
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guest here with us today. Hello, it's Mike from Brew Crime podcast,
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JT's other other, other, other other podcast. So this is the JT
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Manaja twas Oh yeah, Well, you know, I can't say I didn't
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ask for it, and I can't say I don't like it. So so
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your wine, your brew got JT going both ways. So we're all good.
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Sounds like a typical Friday night. Well that's about as lighthearted as we
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get to be today, because, as i'll all know, we're covering Angels
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of Death. Yes, yes, and JT's case was rough, and I'm
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sure this is gonna be rough and mine will be rough. I'm gonna just
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tell you mine a couple of steps up from James because mine involved children.
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Oh no, So I'm just gonna just tell you, grab your drink,
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grab your gummies, grab whatever you need to grab, because this bitch just
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don't grab mushrooms. Yeah right, Why can't grab those? You don't want
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to be on the Psychedelics and Psychedelics and true Crime bad Combo. Something tells
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me there's experience there, but still we'll have to try that. Well.
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But I decided to go outside of my room today and I am drinking nineteen
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Crimes Snoop Dog Kellie Block. So I wish I had a bong water bong
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sound effect ready to go, and I'm like, I got a little Snoop
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dog So what I love is their tasting notes. Notes of chill attitude,
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bold refreshment with herbal bright citrus flavors with a unique and distinct floral finish from
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jail. It just needs some skunky notes to it. Why? Why?
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How do I feel like they just describe what it would taste like if you
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licked Snoop Dogg's arm only after he's been hanging out with Martha. Yeah,
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yes, she would give. I love the fact that they are both best
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friends. I really do that is I would. Yeah, I think it's
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bizarre, but I think it also tells us that you can be from two
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different backgrounds, have two different beliefs, and you can still find common ground.
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Yeah, and be buds. And I would love to watch a movie
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that was just like a fake rom com between two of them. Oh,
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I agree. What if their belief system is not that different and Martha's just
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putting putting us on this entire time? That would surprise me. I'm just
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saying, like, she's the criminal, She's the one who went to jail,
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right, So dog Snoop Dogg has gone to jail, But I thought
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he had a don't juvenile stuff maybe, but he was brought to court for
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some really serious stuff. But it didn't go through, so it didn't stick.
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Didn't stick. One of my favorite jokes of all time, And I
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can't remember who told it, but I know that it was on the Comedy
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Central roast of Justin Bieber and Snoop Dogg was on stage and a bunch like
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a couple of the rappers were on stage and things like that, and the
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person was at the podium and he was like, you know, it's really
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weird that out of everybody on this stage, Martha you're the only one who's
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been in prison and I lost it. Okay, Well, I just gave
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it a goog Snoop Jog was convicted of a felony drug possession possession in nineteen
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ninety probation. Okay, I didn't give a goog of what the sentence was.
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I just gave a goog of what his charges were. And then he
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was acquitted of murder arges. Yeah, drug charges are such a joke.
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Not in Texas, are you kidding? I don't have to joint. You
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can go to prison for That's what I'm talking about. It's a joke though.
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Yeah, you can kill a kid and get less time in Texas.
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Oh yeah. Typically, Well, George Abbott killed a lot of people,
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and boy he's been He's still out of prison. I said it. I
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don't care. I've had a lot of George Abbott stuff on recent episodes that
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you know what, he's earned it, he's earned it. Just be prepared
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and be thankful that Greg Abbott is nowhere in this case today, because if
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he was, I don't even know what it would have been. Because I
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was born and raised in Texas, and the fact that I did not know
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about this case until about two months ago. Is shocking because it did not
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get a lot of publicity in Texas. Interesting, who shut it is scary.
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So just grab your drinks, grab your ball, and grab whatever.
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If I only lived in a place I could grab a ball legally, I
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would I can go buy one from the government here. Yeah, that's because
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you live in Canada and you have rights there. We don't have rights in
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Texas, and I'm a female, I have no rights they own Yeah.
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Yeah, see, I bared my arms unbarreled. I mean I don't have
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a gun, but I bared my arms. Guns have more rights here.
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I think I am a gun tone Texan, But that doesn't mean you should
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have certain guns. That gun has more rights than you too. That's the
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worst. Yeah yeah, but that's okay because one day I do believe in
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karma, and Karma will come back to get all of them and I will
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just sit back and have popcorn. And it's a bitch. That's a bitch.
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So let me tell you about Janine Janine Jones. Oh, Janine's a
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new Karen. And I'm gonna tell you. Normally I use last names,
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but I just had to keep Janine in this episode. Because Janine, A
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lot of you know, I know, have different levels bunny boilers. This
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bitch is above bunny boiler. So I need people to give me a new
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title for people who are above bunny boilers, because I ain't got one angaroo
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killer. No, I need something bigger. The alliteration makes it very difficult.
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Gorilla, ye got nothing. Continue, So somebody at me with that,
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because I need something better. So Janine Jones was a seemingly ordinary nurse.
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She began her career in healthcare with noble intentions, as most nurses do,
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to help and heal, But as time went on, a dark and
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sinister side of her emerged, leaving not only a trail of death, but
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huge devastation in Texas. Okay, So she was born in July of nineteen
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fifty. She was immediately adopted at birth, so her mother gave her up
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after delivery and she guys, don't laugh at this, but she was adopted
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by Dick Jones and his wife Gladys, and they were a nightclub owner.
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But I'm sorry, I just like Dick adopt I like I love how that
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name has made such a transition to where Dick didn't want to be called Richard.
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But now Richard does not want to be called Dick. But he was.
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Literally he is Dick Jones. He's not Richard. He is Dick Jones.
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And his wife's name is Gladys. And they decided to name their Janine.
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I don't know why, but it's nineteen fifty, but they adopted her.
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They also adopted three other children, so apparently they decided to adopt children
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for whatever reason instead of having their own. I mean, if his name
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was Dick, why didn't you go by Dickie? Then got to change it?
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Everyone changes their name, what I mean? I changed the spelling of
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my name accounts right. But Janine grew up outside of San Antonio with her
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parents. Now her dad have to tell you. He was interesting. So
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he was an entrepreneur and a professional gambler. He owns nightclubs, restaurants,
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all of these things. He actually got arrested at one point in time for
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stealing the safe of one of his wealthy customers who was in his nightclub.
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He went and robbed his house. Oh my god, that's amazing. It
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is kind of amazing. I was like, it's kind of cool. But
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there it was enough evidence. They dropped all the charges. But Janine was
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like ten years old when that happened. But I'm still like that can cause
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an impact, Oh just a little bit. That is the most tragic thing
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reported in this woman's life. Yeah, okay, so why she turned out
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to be the way she was, who knows. But she was known to
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be an expert liar and manipulator at the age of ten. Oh that's not
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a good thing. Ten Yeah, like that's that's pretty early. But so
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she was only close out of all of her siblings. She was really close
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to Travis, who was her younger brother. Now, Travis accidentally killed himself
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at the age of fourteen while building a pipe bomb and his dad's shop at
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home, right more, what the hell? I mean, that's awful.
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But but I'm like in Texas at fourteen, I never said, Hey,
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let me go out to dad's shop and build a pipe bomb. Quite sure
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why you go and do that? Because this is the seventies, yea.
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At this point, it's not like you had the Internet to go tell you
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exactly how to do it. You had to like go find the anarchist cookbook
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if it existed yet. Right, So, but anyway, that put her
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in a deep depression. Which it would any child, but this was her
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closest sibling. And then her died dad about thirteen or fourteen months after Travis
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did from cancer. A lot of loss, so a lot of loss.
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So I kind of struggle with the fact that all of the reports I read,
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they're like she had a perfectly normal childhood with not a lot of trauma.
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I call bullshit. That's that's some serious trauma. Like you find out
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your mother gave you up at birth, immediately there's trauma with him, Matt,
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then your brother, then your dad's. So then Janine was a senior
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in high school and tried to convince her mother that she should get married while
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she was in high school because she needed the love, so she just wanted
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to have sex. Well, mom stood up and said, Gladys said,
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nah, you're not doing it, and I'm not giving you my permission.
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No, she didn't get married until right after high school. And this guy,
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he has so many first names, I don't know what to do with
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it. But she married James Jimmy Harvey Delaney Junior. Yeah, he's from
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the zop. It sounds like you were literally listening off children, but I
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thought it was like four people So was it just that their parents had four
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kids and they just yelled all the names, so all the kids thought that
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was their name. I don't know, but apparently he was overweight, wasn't
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a real popular guy, and she told him she was pregnant, so he
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said, okay, I'll marry you. That's always worrisome. Well then after
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several months he was like, yeah, now I gotta figure out how to
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feed her may take care of his. So he signed up for the military,
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went into the Navy, and it was almost instantaneous that he left for
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basic training that her appetite for sex got in the way and she went out,
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you know, and did her thing and spread a little bit of her
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pollen around because she wasn't really pregnay, to put it, she might i'd
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have been after that. So Janine realized she needed to support herself by her
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husband's off in the military, so she went to beauty school. And she
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did not become a beauty school dropout. She actually finished. Wow, so
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she actually became a beautician at the hospitals for patient Interesting. Yeah, it
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leads into some not so great things, but yeah, I mean, I
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love the fact that because I can tell you when I was at MD Anderson
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and going through cancer treatments. I loved the fact that they had somebody there
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who was used to working with hair that was going through all the chemicals.
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So when I first started, I was like, that's really cool that that
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was her specialty. M Yeah. So, well, good news is when
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James Jimmy Harvey Delaney came home, they actually had a child. So she
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actually got pregnant, they had a child, and they stayed married for about
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four years. Okay, well pretty good. I'm like that's not terrible because
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considered how old she was, way too early to get married, way too
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early. Well, shortly after she got divorced, her older brother died of
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cancer. Jesus, I know. So she's had bang bang bang. But
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she decided she wanted to pursue nursing. You know, she was driven by
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that desire to care for others and make a difference in their lives. Dad
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died from cancer. Brother died from cancer. She wanted to go do something,
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and she was pregnant with her second child, and she was worried working
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with chemicals as a hairstylist, this she could get cancer. Yeah, and
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I mean, you know what, at this point, she sounds awesome.
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I mean it sounds like she's going great. Great. She finished school,
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got a job, so then sadly, after being on staff for eight months
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at her first job in San Antonio, she was fired due to patient complaints,
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saying she was rude, but also she wouldn't follow the instructions of the
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charge nurse, and she would do what she felt was best for the patient,
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not what the doctor said. Yep, that that whole I'm smarter than
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you. Yeah, know it all from young people. Yep, we all
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know what that's like. Part of me is like, Okay, I get
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it if you stand up for your patients and you've got their best interests at
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heart, but you're not a doctor. Yeah. And also because we're talking
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about her, probably not the patients, we're gonna learn that. Yeah,
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yeah, she wasn't. She wasn't. So she worked in several hospitals and
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clinics throughout her career, but it was dear in her time at Bear County
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Hospital in San Antonio that her actually started getting people's attention and raising their eyebrows
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and led to a whole lot of suspicion. So kind of like in JT's
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case, patients under her care started number of explained emergencies and deaths. So
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all of a sudden, people who came in for minor things wound up needing
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to be resuscitated. Son of hers. That's not good. That's not good.
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You want people to come in and have good treatment. Like I said,
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So now after all this, I'm questioning what I'm going to do if
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I'm in the hospital again. But that's okay. So she was known to
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disobey orders and she did what she thought was best. So she would have
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been terminated except for the head nurse really liked her and kind of gave her
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some protection. She was always like, oh no, she's nice, she's
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great, she works over time, she doesn't make us pay her for it,
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she's always on call. Oh so they just like to take advantage of
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her because she's willing to be walked all over. Okay. Yeah. So
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well, then a new director was hired in nineteen eighty one at the hospital,
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and he loved her passion and the fact that she loved to work with
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seriously ill patience. Yeah, just take a deep breath. Because he was
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so impressed that he ignored the alarming fact that children of non fatal conditions started
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dying when she was on staff, so much so that the other nurses started
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calling her shifts. When she was on shift, they would say, oh,
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it's going to be the death shift. Oh that is nugged. When
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other staff members saying this is gonna be the death shift, you know something's
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wrong. I know. So one fellow nurse who we're just going to call
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her Davis because she's had a lot of people come at her for testifying.
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I never knew that there was like a code call like you have for police
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officers. We're supposed to have their back. Apparently nurses there's some type of
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thing like that. So this woman who testified against her got death threats and
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all kinds of stuff. So we're just gonna call her Davis. But I
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don't I don't get it because I mean, I like you, I like
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JT. But guess what you do sound wrong? I ain't got your back?
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No, yeah, same, yeah, I wouldn't have the back for
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family members. We're bearing Max's husband, you know, I expected to have
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my back. But other than that note, but these are children we're talking
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about. She worked in the pediatric ward, and I think I forgot to
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mention that but this nurse was constantly saying, guys, we have a constant
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need to resuscitate children when she's on shift. She's not on shift. We
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don't have any code blues. Yeah, that's definitely. Ah, that's a
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worrisome friend. And she would Janine would get excited and seem to get a
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thrill out of calling parents to tell them their children died. Oh that's brutal.
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You thought that was bad. She was also overheard on multiple occasions announcing
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to the staff, Hey, guys, tonight is the night when she thought
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one of her children we're not going to make it. And sure enough,
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every time she said it, a child died. Uh yeah, that's it's
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not giving anything away, is it. Yeah? No, no, no
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crazy there, right, no, no crazy there. Well, and I
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will at the end of my story, I've got a couple of I'll give
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you the kids names and some things, just because I think gets respectful to
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give that information. Jose Flores was a six month old who was admitted to
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the hospital for fever, vomiting, and diarrhea. People, if you've had
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kids, that's pretty common. Shit. Yeah, that's a that's a Wednesday
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jake. That happens however Monday, yeah, exactly, and Thursday and Friday.
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But ben't how many kids you've got. That's true, because if you
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got several. But yeah, but poor Jose, while in Jeanine's care,
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started suffering from seizures and went into cardiac arrest. Six months old. That's
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not a thing that happens out of it. M So it took doctors almost
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an hour to save Jose. Oh my god. So they found that Jose's
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blood was not clotting, but they couldn't figure out why there was not a
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medical condition that told them that this ship should be happening. Was that hephiliac?
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You know, there was no reason. He came in for fever,
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vomiting and diarrhea, flew kind of type symptoms. Yeah, being a kid.
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However, he turned around and he was doing much better until while Janine
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was off shift. Yeah, I like in JT's case. Janine came back
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on shift and was once again in charge of Jose's care. Under her care,
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he went into seizures and again his heart stopped and he was unable to
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be saved. This time they had already saved him and then let her back
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in his presence. It gets worse, so, upon hearing of his son's
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death, mister Flores had a heart attack in the hospital waiting room when he
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was told so while they were helping him to the emergency room, Janine took
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Jose's body, picked him up, and started running through the hospital to take
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him to the mark herself, as staff and family was chasing her and trying
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to stop her. What the actual like fired, Well, apparently it raised
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a little bit suspicion, So the hospital decided, you know, maybe we
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should run some tests. Son's not right here? Is it child abuse?
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Said? The parents? Do something? Is that why the dad had such
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a response. What was it? Well, they discovered that Jose had been
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given an overdose of heprin and they couldn't figure out how because he was never
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prescribed heprin and should not have ever had a heprin in his system. You
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know what is happered? You know, son thinner? Right, it's a
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blood thinner. So they give it to you, so like if you have
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blood clots, they'll give it to you to kind of thing her blood.
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But what was interesting is while they were doing those tests, Janine took some
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time off a little bit because she started having health issues herself and went to
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see several doctors. Yet nothing was ever diagnosed, and a lot of the
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other nurses, the one who called her death shift, thought she was doing
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it for sympathy or maybe to distract them for looking at her bed. Say's
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death I could see it being that for sure. So well, she started
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hearing Janine started hearing other staff members talk about her and the numerous death and
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complications, because Jose was the first one that really kind of raised alarms.
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It had been happening, but that thing they weren't sure. She decided that
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she was going to start blackmailing the hospital and the doctors because she took copies
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of all the records and she knew exactly what happened to the children, and
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she was going to prove which doctors killed the children. And still nothing was
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done. The hospital just said, you know, she wasn't feeling well,
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she was distraught over his death. We're just gonna let it go. That's
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complicit at that point. Yep. Oh yeah. So then Rolando Santas,
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a one month old infant, was admitted for pneumonia, but suddenly he started
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having seizures, unexplained bleeding and went into cardiac arrest. All of the issues
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happened when Janine was on staff. When she was not on staff, Rolando
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would improve, be great, almost ready for discharge. She would come back
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on and he would just go down, and it kept it intensifying. He
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actually went into a comma. A doctor a comma, and a cardiac arress
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pediatrician was able to save him. And this pediatrician is a freaking amazing person.
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He saved him. He then had him removed from the pediatric ICU floor
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and put under twenty four hour surveillance. Good Orlando improved and was sent home
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with his parents and is still alive today. Yeah, sometimes you get lucky.
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That pediatrician complained. Still nothing happened, nothing, so she continued working.
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It was an until after multiple infants died and several had drug overdoses that
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were saved that the administration decided, you know, we need to do a
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formal inquiry here into her patients and see what's going on. However, the
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fear of negativity and publicity stopped them from performing a formal inquiry, and instead,
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just like JT's case, they transferred her out of the pediatric unit.
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I would rather know that this happened and they stopped it than to have this
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just continue to happen, good news for the hospital. She was pissed that
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they transferred her from working with children, so she resigned. I want to
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keep killing kids, is what she's thinking. Well, guess what did not
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stop her from working, because nowhere they put on the file we suspect she
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did this, this, and this. She went on and got hired by
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doctor Kathleen Holland. And doctor Holland, I'm sorry, you're complicit, and
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you deserve everything you've got, and I am okay going on record to say
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that she worked with Janine at the hospital in San Antonio, moved to Kerrville,
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Texas, opened her own pediatric clinic, hired Janine to come and work
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for her, knowing all of the issues. She even testified for her and
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their little inquiry thing that they decided not to do, so she knew one.
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That's yeah, that's terrible. So now it wasn't in a hospital,
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it wasn't a clinic, but within months of Janine's starting as the nurse at
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the new clinic, seven children began suffering from unexplained seizures and had to be
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treated at said Peterson Hospital. The hospital was suspicious that so many children with
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the unexplained seizures came from that same clinic, not from other clinics in the
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area, but from this one clinic. Yeah, they just opened with this
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nurse. So doctor Holland said, oh, it's just a coincidence. We
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work with children and a lot of them have issues. It's just coincidence.
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Audience. The death of Chelsea mcleland, who her parents are angels in this
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whole story, So her death kind of woke doctor Holland up. And doctor
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Holland started looking into the suspicious desks and she was like, Okay, I
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need to look into something. Chelsea wasn't very ill, she had a very
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minor thing, went to go to the ear at the hospital, should have
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been home, and she died. Yeah. I mean this was after colleagues,
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you know, had begun questioning why all these things are happening. Why
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does only happen when she is working? Are only the patients that she touches
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not all these others. Now, during the investigation, the investigative committee,
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so in Texas, when you open investigation, they put a full committee and
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it's so it's not just one or two people. You have a full committee
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looking into different things. Well, they found that two bottles of Lord help
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me, I can't say this, but I'm gonna try sucking old cliling.
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It's a muscle relaxent. Never had it, and I've had a lot of
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drugs, but it's one. But it had been used. They found in
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the practice two bottles that supposedly had never been used, but there was a
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hole on the top of the vial and the bottles when tested had been filled
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with sailing in the stockroom. Oh shit. So even worse. If someone
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needed that, they'd be getting sailing exactly. So they decided to exhume Chelsea's
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body. Chelsea's family said, yes, whatever you need to do. She
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had been given an overdose of suckle cliling. Can another thing pharmaceutical companies?
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Can you make the words a little bit easier for us normal people to say?
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But they sure are fun to make fun of. Well that's why you
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know a cinemetaphene is taylan all. They usually have those like names for us.
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Pleads go this one couldn't find any simple man's But during the investigation they
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found a terrifying web because they revealed that Janine Jones had been intentionally harming her
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patients and administering lethal doses of medication. That was not the only medication that
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she had been giving them. Hepbrin that and then dialagan she had been given.
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So they still to this day do not know why she wanted to do
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this, brand the vulnerable. But before they could take action against her,
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Janine called doctor Holland from the emergency room, telling her she had taken an
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overdose of doxapin and that she had to have her stomach pumped. I'd be
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like, show me the receipts, don't pump it. It turned out she
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lied, and there was only four pills in her stomach when they pumped it,
32:16
and she had faked all of the symptoms. M fakes, pregnancy,
32:21
fakes overdose. I know, It's like, do we see a pattern here?
32:25
But remember she had no trauma in her childhood, no matters. But
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so doctor Holland went on to fire her, but it was too late.
32:36
Doctor Holland lost her privileges yeah at the hospital, and families left her practice
32:43
and no longer wanted to see her and guys as a mom. I am
32:47
okay with all of that, because she knew I believe in second chances,
32:52
not when people are dying as someone who never wants kids. I support that
32:59
because yeah, I'm so wrong, it's just wrong. Well, even her
33:04
husband divorced her good so she literally lost everything, and all of it was
33:10
because people held her accountable for hiring her knowing the suspicions around her, and
33:17
that they called her doctor death shift. Now, doctor Holland did also find
33:23
that Janine had all the documentation. It was trying to frame her and blame
33:30
the deaths on her. Fuck And I mean they both worked at the same
33:36
hospital before too, so they almost plausible too. So I mean Janine,
33:42
she wasn't stupid, you know, she evil but not stupid. She was
33:47
evil but not stupid. Well, this is where it gets very interesting in
33:52
Texas. Gotta love Texas sometimes and then you gotta tell Texas they're fucking on
33:57
drugs. And I can say that I can't do because you can't mess with
34:00
Texas. No, you can. They're on drugs right now? Do you
34:05
know that that was actually an anti littering campaign originally, And it is because
34:10
born and raised here, I grew up and at one point in time we
34:15
did trash pickup back when I was in junior high high school. Don't mess
34:19
with Texas, and it was to get people to stop littering. I has
34:22
heard that in the podcast recently, and I'm like, Yeah, it used
34:28
to be a thing to be proud to say I was born and raised in
34:30
Texas. Now not so much. I can say I was born and raised
34:36
in Texas because I left Texas, lived four years in California, four years
34:38
in Vegas, so I got outside of the box. And I can tell
34:43
you Texas is on drugs. I mean a BC's on drugs too, but
34:47
just because it's legal. But we're on the bad drugs. Jesus, we're
34:52
on the bad drugs. We're not on the d drugs. So on October
34:57
twelfth, nineteen eighty two, grand jury in Kerville convened and they were looking
35:02
into eight children from doctor Holland's clinic and the death of Chelsea McCallin. Then,
35:10
in February of nineteen eighty three, while the other grand jury was still
35:14
convening and looking into everything, the Granjury in San Antonio convened to look into
35:20
forty seven suspicious deaths of children in Bear County, where she worked prior to
35:27
the clinic. Now several of her co workers testified against her. Now,
35:35
the granjury indeed Jones on one count of murder and Kerrville in several charges of
35:42
injury two children because no one saw her actually put the medications into the children.
35:50
Yeah, plausible to my ability. That's what they went with. But
35:54
she would face up to ninety nine years in prison for it. So not
35:59
a bad sentence, right. That amazes me, Like, you can't prove
36:04
anything, but you're still gonna get in nighty nine years. Yeah, well,
36:07
they kind of could prove, you know, the one murder that went
36:12
to trial, but then the San Antonio grand jury indicted her for injury to
36:16
a child for the injection she gave. But they left it open to say
36:24
she's under suspicion and investigation for many other deaths at the hospital. And that
36:31
becomes very important because in February of nineteen eighty four, she was convicted of
36:37
murder and was given the maximum sentence of ninety nine years in Kerville, Texas.
36:45
Then in October, she was found guilty of injuring Rolando Santos by injection.
36:50
She was sentenced to another sixty years. That's a total of one hundred
36:55
and fifty nine years with the possibility of Yeah. At that time, they
37:04
were unable to try her for the other deaths in Bear County because the hospital,
37:12
against subpoena orders, shredded over nine thousand pounds of patient records. What
37:20
the absolute hell that is? Think about nine thousand pounds of shredded documents.
37:25
That's a lot of documents, with a lot of boxes of documents. Sounds
37:30
like they weren't maintaining their files for a certain number of years and then dumping
37:34
them. They just saw the first part and said I can do that.
37:37
And but remember this was also the hospital that suspected. But they're like,
37:42
yeah, she's too nice, she comes out all the time, she does
37:45
this. We don't want bad publicity. We're just going to transfer her.
37:49
So very complicit. You're going to transfer those files to the shredder. Yeah.
37:54
So she came up for parole after serving ten years. Hallelujah. Her
38:00
parole was denied. Yeah. However, being the great state of fucking Texas,
38:08
she was scheduled for mandatory release due to the Texas prisons being overcrowded in
38:15
twenty eighteen. Why are we overcrowded because we put you in prison? For
38:20
fifty years if you have a joint. That's why our prisons are overcrowded.
38:25
So we're gonna let out this woman who kills children before you're gonna let out
38:30
the drug convicts, of course, because they're probably people of color. I
38:40
live here, and I just I don't get it. Yeah, So,
38:45
to prevent this from happening, luckily, the state had said she's still under
38:51
suspicion and investigation for these other charges. They were kind of leaving it as
38:54
their trump card to keep this from happening. Yeah. Yeah, So they
39:01
decided to indict her, in charge her for the murder of eleven month old
39:06
Joshua Sawyer, and they were going to go ahead and follow additional charges for
39:13
the other deaths ninety seven potential charges. Good, and she agreed to plead
39:22
guilty to one count of murder in exchange for the other murder charges being dropped.
39:31
And she was really upset because she did not want to be known as
39:35
a serial killer. Well then don't be a fucking serial killer, huh so,
39:40
But because they dropped those other charges, she felt she's not charged with
39:45
more than two murders. I'm not a serial killer. I'll agree to it
39:49
now. I hate people. I'm just gonna tell you. We put people
39:54
to death and Texas. I don't know why. And I could not find
39:59
why she was not eligible for that because in my book, you killed a
40:02
child. Yeah, I mean, I'm against the death penalty, but my
40:06
god, someone was worthy of the death penalty if you are one. Sure
40:14
she did this, but I don't know why. So she agreed. So,
40:19
and she would not be eligible for parole until roughly twenty thirty eight,
40:23
and she'd be almost nine years old. So that was part of the deal.
40:28
You agree will drop these other charges, but she's not eligible for parole
40:32
until then, and she has to let the families give their impact statement.
40:40
Okay, well at least there's that. But so yeah, so, Texas
40:47
State Judge Frank Castro told Janine, your life sentence doesn't come close to what
40:54
you did to these families and the tragedy you caused God's precious gift babies who
41:00
are defenseless and innocent. I truly believe your ultimate judgment is the next life.
41:07
Jannine Jones remains silent, showed no expressions during the sentencing from the judge,
41:16
and as Joshua Sawyer's mom told her, I'm glad that you will never
41:21
see daylight. I hope you live a long and miserable life behind bars.
41:28
She just sat there quietly with a grin on her face. And those words
41:32
are why I don't support the death penalty, because they should suffer behind bars
41:37
for people like that. Well, listen, it's much easier to give somebody
41:40
access to what you're talking about versus training them for the other job. Right,
41:45
that's how that works, he said, knowingly. We don't have to
41:51
put them to death, just put them in a population that it will naturally
41:53
happen. Right now, One thing to keep in mind. Jennine Jones was
42:00
a mother to two children, a boy and a girl, both of whom
42:05
thankfully she left in the care of her mother and she did not raise them.
42:09
That's good. So now provided some information about her killings, but I
42:16
wanted to give you a small chronological overview of some of the known killings that
42:22
she at some point in time honestly admitted two. Chelsea McClellan. In nineteen
42:30
eighty two, she was a fifteen month old baby. She was injected with
42:35
a leasal doth of suckleacaulleen, a muscle relaxant. Rolando Santos, who was
42:42
an eight month old baby also in Bear County. She admitted the exact same
42:47
drug into his system. Patrick Savala nineteen eighty two, a four month old
42:53
baby same hospital, was injected with heprin and due to complications. Rosemary Vega
43:02
also nineteen eighty two, a two month old baby who was injected with multiple
43:08
toxic substances which caused cardiac arrest an excessive bleeding. Richard Ricky Nelson was a
43:16
two year old boy, also in nineteen eighty two, was administered a fatal
43:22
dose of sula calling. Joshua Sawyer was the four month old baby who was
43:29
injected with a toxic substance that they couldn't identify, but also had to hebrin
43:34
and sucla chlorine in his system. Rosemary Smith a four year old girl who
43:40
was also given a lethal dose of the We're just going to call it suckle
43:45
calling, however you say it, Na, Yeah, Guy Anna was a
43:52
ten month old baby who was also given a fatal dose a sucla chlorine.
43:57
So those are just a few of the con earned cases that she told other
44:02
people or documented that she actually killed them. So they estimate over a hundred
44:13
children potentially that suffered from her thirty to forty deaths. That ninety plus of
44:21
kids under her care that went into cardiac arrest and had to be saved.
44:28
Awful. Gross. And she's sitting in a Texas prison and apparently gets a
44:36
lot of fan mail from guys who want to marry her. Why are people
44:42
so messed up? Like why would you want to ever talk to in that
44:47
way a murderer? Like why? Why? And why do they have the
44:54
ability to go to a library thing and do male email? Yeah, like
45:00
I could send her an email? Why do you have that ability? So
45:06
be happy to send her an email, but it wouldn't be very nice.
45:08
Agree, Yeah, they saved that by the time that she potentially could get
45:15
out. Because of how long it's been, the families, the parents of
45:21
all of the children most likely will no longer be living. So if she
45:25
does get out when she's ninety years old, the parents most likely will not
45:30
be around to see that. But the fact that she's even eligible for parole
45:37
in the state of Texas, I do not understand. Well, I don't
45:42
think a lot of people live to ninety in prison, So it's not like
45:45
the healthcare is great in prison. True, but that's my case, and
45:51
I'm just going to tell you I did not enjoy it. I could have
45:55
probably lived the rest of my life without ever knowing about this person. And
46:00
considering I now live in the Austin area, which is very close to San
46:05
Antonio Bearra County, I'm thankful my children were not born here because it's too
46:14
close for comfort. Yeah. Absolutely, And I think hospitals need to do
46:19
better. Nowhere did I find that any of the administrators were held accountable.
46:25
The hospital was not held accountable. They made changes, fired some people,
46:30
but nowhere is it documented that they made settlements or did anything. And I
46:37
think that in some ways as a bigger travesty because if they protected this one
46:43
nurse, who else are they protecting. Yeah, and they didn't fire people
46:47
at the top. They probably fired people that had no way to actually cause
46:52
changes. So we'll never know. And the fact that she has no she
47:00
has no remorse. No, that's my case. So I'm just gonna say
47:06
stay safe. Question your nurses and your doctors before they give you medication,
47:12
ask to see the vials, and if you're there with your kids, ask
47:15
questions. Absolutely, I mean always better to ask questions. Ask questions.
47:22
You know what, if you look like a fool, I'd rather look like
47:24
a fool and I have my kids. Yeah, absolutely, or your own
47:30
life. Yeah, that's all I got. Guys. Oh well, I'm
47:37
sad to say my case next week will actually probably be worse. God,
47:44
I didn't think it could get worse. Oh yeah it does, unfortunately.
47:50
Thank you for that. Yeah, you're welcome, Stay safe, watch out
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your face says a lot. Yep, yep, yep. It's one of
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those things where I can't think of something reasonable to say in response that big
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my, do you have any sign that you usually do? Or oh did
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you say your beau tape or beer time? Yes, oh blue time.
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