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I wondered how you were going to handle the power rankings.
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By the way, you've had a very busy Monday, Matt Snyder.
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Not fine enough hours in my day to keep up on everything you're
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writing. That's a good thing.
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But the Braves, right on top of your power rankings, again, had
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another important weekend and it went their ways.
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They take two or three from the Dodgers.
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That was a series. I think a lot of baseball fans
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were wondering how it would go. Good to talk to you, Matt
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Snyder. How are you?
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Yeah, I'm, I'm very good. Yeah, I also mowed the lawn too,
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so I pack it in today. Getting all that stuff done,
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just the Braves big series, big series win.
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Strider looked really good over the Dodgers this weekend.
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Look, the Dodgers are going to be there at the end, one would
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assume, right? But the Braves are playing very
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good baseball as we speak. Yeah, I think the biggest thing
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from the weekend was the Spencer Strider start and how, you know,
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he came back from injury last year, He had the surgery in
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2024, came back last year, 4.45 VR Ray just never really looked
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right, didn't look like himself, was on the IL took a while to
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get back. Like OK, what's going to happen
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with this guy? First start in Colorado, not
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very good, but it's in Colorado. But he's still 6 blocks or five
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walks and then he comes out in Dodger Stadium and throws 6
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scoreless innings with only one hit allowed and strikes at 8
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now. OK, well that's Spencer Strider
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now. So they had in terms of the
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rotation just from the injuries such as Schwellenbach, who still
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is out for a while, Chris Dale, you know, he's probably going to
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be good all year, but you don't know about Bryce Elder, you
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don't know about Martine Perez, how they're going to hold up,
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getting Strider to look like the old Strider.
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That had to be big time optimism resonating throughout the
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organization there. I mean, we know the offense is
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going to continue to be good, especially when Nekunya comes
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back. We know the bullpens going to be
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amazing all year with Iglesias and Suarez and Kinley and Lee.
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But to see stride or so like that, I thought that was a big
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big. Deal, No question.
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Just real quick before I have you seen Mike Trout rumored to
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the Braves? I'm starting to see more and
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more of that. I don't know if it's just one
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site and now everybody's picking up on it.
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OK, not really. So nothing to that because I
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mean, what an addition that would be, right?
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I mean, they I think Major League Baseball wants him in the
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playoffs. Obviously, the Braves have a
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major, major chance Boy with him, with the Brave, that might
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that might be enough to put him over the top.
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Yeah, that'd be cool. It feels like he'd have to go to
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left field to replace Mike Yastrzemski there.
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Yeah. I mean, I, you know, he he
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obviously he has his ten and five rights at this point.
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I don't, I don't know that he would definitely wave them to go
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anywhere. But with the Braves being a fine
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organization that are contending very, very often, that might
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just do it. You know what?
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I'm gonna jump in here, Jack. Does anyone come back to the
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Braves? Bobby Cox passed away this
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weekend. What the some of the stories
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that have come out from his former players.
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I don't know if you ever had an opportunity to interview him.
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I remember is the Blue Jays skipper when they when they
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started to get good in the 80s, when they were, you know, they
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sucked, sucked, sucked and then all of a sudden they were good.
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But Bobby Cox, what a what a phenomenal baseball life.
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What a phenomenal baseball man. Just your thoughts on on what he
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leaves behind and what he meant to MLB.
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Yeah, fourth all time and wins 5 tenants World Series 4 Manager
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of the Year awards. That's a lot of, you know,
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decoration right there on the resume as it is fourth all time
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and post season wins as well. One of the things I think that
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sticks out to me the most is the having the career record and
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ejections, which I don't think will ever be touched because I
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don't think that guys are going to be at the helm long enough.
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But I also with how many things you can challenge nowadays,
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there's hardly the opportunity to go argue and get thrown out
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anymore. So now, and the reason I bring
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it up is there are there are myriad reasons.
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It's not just because it sounds really funny that he got kicked
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out so often. There are different components
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to that. First off is the longevity.
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In order to have that job for long enough to set the record
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for ejection, you have to be good enough to keep your job.
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So that's part of that's a testament to how good the Braves
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were so for so long, winning fourteen straight division
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titles. Another part of that is they
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were very good during that run at developing talent.
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We saw guys like Chipper Jones and Andrew Jones and even Jason
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Hayward toward the end of his run come up underneath Bobby Cox
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learn on the fly. We also saw him deal with, you
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know, the development of let's say, John Smoltz, Tom Clavin,
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Steve Avery came up. They brought Greg Maddox over.
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Obviously that helped. But Denny Nagle, for example,
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really coming to his own there. Kevin Bill would really come and
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coming into his own there with that staff.
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So getting your players backs is part of what can get managers,
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managers ejected, whether it's standing up for them on a close
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call and, and, and whether you think they're right or not,
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whether it's just keeping them in the game because you think
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it's a terrible call and you think the players going to get
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kicked out. So you get in between them and
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make sure that you get kicked out and not the player.
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There are just so many different components to all those
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ejections that I think a lot of people might not think about.
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Tariq's Google could recover from orthopedic elbow surgery
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quicker than the usual tie line timeline, according to his
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agent, Scott Boris. Not only that, Boris takes it a
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step further in the procedure that was used.
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He's calling it a scubal scope. I mean, is he looking for a side
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deal here? Because it looks like school's
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not going to get the money. Maybe, he thought, in the open
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market. Yeah.
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So again, several different components to this.
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First off, the initial reaction when you say Scott, Boris does
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this about his client, the initial reaction is to kind of
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roll your eyes, say yeah, whatever.
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But the more I thought about it, it was like, well, this is in
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season. He's obviously not getting an
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extension. He's going to free agency.
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He's not a free agent right now. So it's not like he's trying to
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get him a job right now. So why would he have to over
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exaggerate? It leads me to believe.
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And in fact, if you take that another step further, if he says
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this and then Scubal's out for the rest of the season, then he
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looks really, really bad. So I don't think unless it was
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true, he would take that chance. Now, of course, then he has to
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take it a step further and go with the Scubal scope and all
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that crap. That's like winter meetings.
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Scott, Boris, right there for you.
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But like, yeah, it led me to believe that there was that
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there were at least elements of truth because I was like, man,
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if he doesn't come back now, Morris has egg on his face.
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And he doesn't want to do that in front of free agency.
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So it led me to believe that there might have been like one
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small bone chip. And it was really easy to go in
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and take it out. And then he'll be able to start
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throwing quickly, which a lot of the recovery timeline usually is
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how much longer it takes to build yourself back up right if
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you don't. For example, in spring training,
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did they get a pitcher to get two months to build themselves a
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month and 1/2 at least month and a half month, Three weeks to
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build themselves up and get ready for the regular season
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until you're ready to go. So if you get shut down for a
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month, you're basically starting over.
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Then you need another six weeks to build your arm up to get
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back. So I think part of the argument
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is he's only going to be shut down from throwing for like a
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week or two, and then it's not going to take him near as long
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to build back up. So we'll see.
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But my hunch is that's what it was more like he's not going to
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have near as much recovery time because he's not going to be
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shut down. For as long.
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Interesting. I think you're spot on and never
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thought of it that way. I'm glad you brought that up
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because if it does backfire, that's obviously going to hurt
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him once he gets to the morning. It'll be awful, no doubt about
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it. So what about his Tigers?
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I mean that division The Twins are in last place 2 1/2 games
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out of the league, which is just tells you all you need to know
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about the division overall. But if the Tigers do languish,
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is scuba made available, do you think, once we get to the trade
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deadline? OK, It would have to be really,
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really far back because I don't think they would do that if they
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thought they had any, any shot at making the postseason,
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especially when we saw the Guardians last year come back
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from. 15 and the Tigers the year before.
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Yeah, So I mean it has to be at least double digits out of a
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playoff spot. But if they did get far enough
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back, yes, absolutely. I think that they would get in
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front of it because they signed from Revaldez last offseason.
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I think that was kind of like, hey, we're going to go for it
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this season, but if we don't do anything, at least we've got
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Valdez plus some savings and money for other people and then
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school's going to walk. So yeah, I think he's gone from
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Detroit after the season regardless.
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So if they're in a spot where they think we're definitely out
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of it, yes, absolutely they would trade him.
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I just, man, they'd have to work awfully hard to get so far out
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in that division right now. They almost went from first to
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worst in like 3 days. That's the division, that's.
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Why different than the National League?
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Speaking of the American League as a whole, there are only three
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teams in the whole league above 500 at this point in time.
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Just absolutely unthinkable. It feels like a mathematical
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impossibility that you have a 15 teams and only three of them
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above 500. Yet here we are.
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Are there teams that you feel confident or going to turn it
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around? Who do you like outside of the
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Rays, the Yankees and I guess the A's because of the division?
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Who do you like in the American League?
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It's hard to be confident right now because we've seen about 1/4
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of the season. That's a decent sample.
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Mariners, I'll go right to. They're better than this.
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They were under 500 into June last year and then they ended up
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in the ALCSI don't think anybody else in the AL West is that
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good. I have the Rangers.
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Maybe I still just don't like their offense that much and the
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rotation isn't as deep as it should be or as good as it
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should be if you want to get by with a little offense.
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But then again, like Corey Seeger should be way better
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offensively. When Wyatt Langford comes back,
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maybe he gets things going. You expect Mackenzie Gore to be
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better than this 5.180 RA. They expect Nathan Ivaldi to be
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better than this? Maybe, but definitely confident
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in the Mariners out there. Astros done with them.
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Obviously the Angels are not good central hard to be
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confident in anybody, but it seems like the Royals kind of
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have a good thing going right now after that horrible start.
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Maybe the Royals will get things going.
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Tigers. I'm, I'm waiting, especially
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with school ball out for at least another few weeks, waiting
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a little bit there and the East. I still, I still think there's
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something more on them in the Blue Jays. 8 1/2 outs of tall
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order right now. 7 1/2 behind the Yankees is a tall order.
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But to at least get into wild card contention with the winning
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record, yeah, I do think they have enough to do that.
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And again, four games under, they were two games under in
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late May last year. So I know it is a tall order, as
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I said, not only to run down the division title, but to expect
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them to get as hot as last year just because it happened last
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year. But you at least have the
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mentality in the clubhouse, which is, hey man, we already
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did this, then you know you're not going to be lacking
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confidence in the clubhouse. You have to if their leader
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could hit the baseball further than the warning track, for
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crying out. Loud.
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I don't. That's what I think.
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I don't know if you saw my power rankings.
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I did yes. When Vladimir Guerrero junior to
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be slugging under 400 to only have two home runs that I mean,
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I know he's hitting three O 8. I know he's getting on base, but
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man, that's that's the guy that you won't need to hit the ball
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out of the ballpark who's just not cutting it.
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No doubt I want to go to the National League.
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I do want to get to the text of the play at the plate the other
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yesterday where replay totally got it wrong.
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But but I'm going to start with the Brewers who I'm starting to
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think that they're starting to look like themselves again.
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The guys are coming back into this line up.
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It looks as though the Brewers probably too late to get them
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now to win the Central Division. I don't know what they were.
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I don't think they ever dropped off the face of the earth, did
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they, Trent? I don't think they did.
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But it seems like the Brewers are about to make a run and the
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Cubs, I think it's going to be like we thought it was going to
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be. It's either the Brewers or the
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Cubs. Here comes Milwaukee, Matt
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Snyder. I bet you could still get pretty
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decent odds because there's always a tax for the the mega
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market teams and the Cubs had a decent sized lead and just won
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so many games. I bet the Cubs are still favored
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there and the Brewers are decent money, but not as much as it
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would have been, you know, a week ago.
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Like, especially with them sweeping the Yankees.
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That'll make people perk up. Yeah, get Jackson Turio back,
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and he's been amazing. And that's somebody who could
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make a difference in a big, big way.
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He could be, he could play like an MVP caliber guy having missed
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as much time as he is in the same league as some major, major
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big guns. I'm not saying he's going to win
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it this year, but I'm saying he could play like that type of guy
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that's a needle mover there. And then you get Andrew Vaughn
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and hits a home run. That's you get another extra
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oomph of power in the middle there.
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When you've got Churrio and terrain toward the top of the
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order, you can put Vaughn in the middle there.
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That really lengthens their lineup on in the middle with
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William Contreras, obviously and in the rotation.
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I know Woodruff had that dead arm where he was only throwing
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like mid 80s. He's on the IL, but Miss
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Zorowski looks like a legit ace. I mean, 70 strikeouts and 44 is
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ridiculous. And Kyle Harrison, Chad Patrick,
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Logan Henderson, they've got good rotation depth right now
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even with Woodruff being hurt. So yeah, they're legit.
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Something came out contender versus pretenders.
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And I said that brews are strong, strong contender.
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Play at home played aside in the Cubs game yesterday, as Ken
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brought up to me, degrom reaches 1900 strikeouts.
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Like, OK, that's nice. And then you see it's the least
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amount of innings and the least amount of games started to hit
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that park. He's still searching for his
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100th career victory, yet if he can have a healthy couple more
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seasons in today's environment, a baseball Mr. Hall of Fame
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voter? Yeah.
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Is Jacob to Graham a Hall of Famer?
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Yeah, 99 career wins is not even remotely on my radar.
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I don't think that matters as much.
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Like if somebody, I don't think we're going to see anybody for a
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long, long time get there. But just for the sake of
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argument, if somebody got to 300 wins, I don't think I would look
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at any other stat. And I would just say, I'll give
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you the respect to stick around long enough to get to 300 wins
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because you can't get there without being good.
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But not having enough doesn't move the needle for me,
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especially when he only has 67 loss.
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So if you're just looking at on a percentage basis, it's very
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obvious this guy's gotten screwed out of so many wins over
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the years, whether it's by a lack of offense or or as
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bullpen. The workload I think is more of
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an issue because you're not even to 1600 innings right now.
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It'll be interesting to see on a rate basis.
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There's no reason to talk about it, right?
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Like 2.570 or a 0.98 WHIP to strike out.
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Rates hardly ever walk in anybody.
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All of his percentages are absolutely Hall of Fame level
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percentages. It's just are you going to have
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the workload? Because even in this day and age
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of high strikeouts, he's not even the 2000 strikeouts yet.
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He'll get there. I think he needs to get over
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2000 innings, which is at 1584 and a third right now, get over
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2000 innings, and then we're probably getting over 2500
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strikeouts. And then given the rate stats, I
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think we're in good range there and he would probably make it.
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It's going to be close because he's still so good, but he's 38
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and there's so much mileage on that arm given the surgeries.
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Who? Yeah, like you say, you better
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stay healthy for the next couple of years.
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I think he's a Hall of Fam boy. Sure looked like 1 yesterday,
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but there. Really.
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Feels like 1. He does one of those guys that
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when you say the feel factor, like when you're watching
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somebody, it's what people said like anti Scott Roland, for
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example, when you watch Scott Rowland, did you feel like you
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were watching a Hall of Famer? When you watch Jacob degrom, you
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always feel like you're watching a Hall of Famer.
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He got no run support for the most part, other than that two
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run bomb in the 9th inning. He got one the play at the play
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at the plate Mat. I mean, if you're going to have
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replay, they're there to get the call.
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Right. And that was pretty he.
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Was he was? He was out.
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There's no get. There's no way around it.
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It looks pretty easy to me. I know it was close, but just
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because it's close doesn't mean you have to uphold it.
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Just because it's close doesn't mean you can't change it like it
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can be. Oh man, it was so, so, so close.
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But he's out. OK then.
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He's out pretty seems seems pretty straightforward to me.
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We if you have any thoughts of a Philadelphia push come post
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season is the time to maybe buy a ticket Now.
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They're 10 and three under. Mattingly Sash Warber had
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another big day. Is the time now to jump aboard
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with Philadelphia because they definitely have the pieces and
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feels? Like, well, it apparently was
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right before, right when they fired.
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Yes, but. Excitingly was the time the
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upcoming schedule was really soft.
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They just got done playing only the brazen Cubs for two straight
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weeks when they were at their worst.
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And so it's it's kind of natural that they would get hot.
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Part of the key there is they I think we talked earlier in the
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season, the roster just seems so thin.
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Well, now you've got Brandon Marsh doing absolutely bonkers
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offensively, hitting 353. That lengthens the line up in a
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big, big way behind Trey Turner, Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber,
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who you know are going to be as good as anybody in the top
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three. If you can get, you know, Justin
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Crawford having a pretty good year toward the bottom lineup.
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Probably need more from Bryce and Scott now with Boom, but
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Brandon Marsh coming on strong and getting that hot as a good
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sign. Getting Zach Wheeler back and
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having him look at least close to old Zach Wheeler is also a
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big way to lengthen that, to lengthen that rotation there.
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Christopher Sanchez with that now 20 inning straight scoreless
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streak. Looks like again, you've got the
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pair of vases in Wheeler and Sanchez.
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Uzzardo is so inconsistent, but when he's on, he's really good.
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Probably need to see a rebound from Nola there, but they've got
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the ROM back at the end of the bullpen.
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They've had a lot of good signs. We'll see where it goes.
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A fascinating week. What's the What's the best
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series coming up this week? I was asked to rank them,
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actually, and preliminarily looking at it like Philly's
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Pirates is a really, really good one for the weekend.
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Braves is pretty good. Yeah, I was actually going to
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say, oh, I was just looking at the weekend, but yeah, if we
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were in the middle of the week, holy cow.
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I mean, that's top two in my power ranking.
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So of course I think that was amazing.
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Braves, Cubs. But I actually was thinking
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Cubs, White Sox over the weekend.
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It's at White Sox, the White Sox right in the mix.
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You never know, they could be in first place on the weekend
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because they're only one game out right now.
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The White Sox fans always have kind of little brother syndrome
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about the Cubs. So they're going to show up like
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it's their world theories and they hate the Cubs so much.
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Cubs are good. If the White Sox feel like
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they're good, that could be a really, really raucous
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environment there on the South Side this coming weekend.
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Murakami. What a story he has no doubt.
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About. Oh yeah.
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Really great. Good stuff.
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Matt Snyder, thanks for doing this.
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Appreciate it. And we will talk with you next
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week. Thank you, Matt.
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Let's talk some Iowa State Bill Seals joins us cyclonereport.com
21:40
Bill Trenton Ken, thank you for coming on.
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I guess I want to start with the quarterback who by the name of
21:45
Brody Campbell, who is he had 30 Division One offers and his his
21:51
narrowed that list apparently to four schools, Arkansas, Georgia
21:54
Tech, Maryland being the others and Iowa State.
21:58
Have you got your crystal ball out?
21:59
Is that what you do over at the rival slash on three?
22:02
Well, your thoughts on Brody Campbell?
22:04
Is he? What's a likelihood that he ends
22:07
up a cyclone? Well, I think the odds are are
22:11
pretty good guys. I mean, it sounds like Iowa
22:13
states really making him a priority now.
22:16
You know, he tweeted out a graphic a few hours ago that was
22:20
sent to him by the Iowa State staff.
22:23
He's kind of 1A now. They, they, I think they've cast
22:27
aside DJ Hunter, not recruiting him as much or if at all like
22:32
they were when they had him in during the spring.
22:35
You know, Gary Chapman was another one they had offered
22:38
were in home in school, I believe with him during this
22:42
recent period. He's committed elsewhere.
22:44
So I think it's Brody Campbell right now.
22:48
That's the that's the priority. Arkansas, Georgia Tech,
22:52
Maryland, the other of the finalists Iowa State will get
22:56
its shot with him on an official visit in in June.
23:00
They'll have him in I believe the 12th through the 14th is the
23:03
weekend on that so and they they they got to get a quarterback
23:08
here in in this class guys it's it's it's probably the most
23:12
important. Well, it's always one of the
23:14
most important positions on the field and in this class right
23:17
now, it's probably the most important.
23:20
I felt that they've done a great job addressing the offensive
23:23
line. They've gotten a couple other
23:25
positions commitments there, a couple on defense here recently,
23:30
but quarterback I think, and Brody Campbell, that's probably
23:33
the priority right now for the staff is to try to get him in
23:37
the fold. I'm going to ask you about a
23:39
couple of local guys, state of Iowa guys, Joe Vineyard, who I
23:42
saw plenty of Waukee Northwest catching the ball from Matt
23:45
Heitlin and making plays at the tight end position.
23:47
Made his commitment and then Will slaggle.
23:49
And after Matt Campbell departed, a lot of concerns, a
23:52
lot of questions. Was he going to go over the east
23:54
side of the state, maybe make a go a lot further east and go out
23:57
to State College? Recommitting to this staff feels
24:00
like 2 pretty important gets for the new coaching staff.
24:03
Yeah, I think so, Will, Will Slaggle was an early priority
24:08
for Matt Campbell and his staff and open, they had committed
24:12
really early and then open things up for a little bit when
24:16
the coaching change. And I think Jimmy Rogers, Jake
24:18
Fortin, the offensive line coach came in, made a very quick
24:22
impression on him. And I think all along Will was
24:26
was probably looking to stay close to home, to close to
24:30
Grinnell. You know, his his dad and his
24:32
uncle played for Iowa, stayed in the 90s.
24:34
He's a legacy type of guy. And then Iowa State got him in.
24:38
And I think he's going to having having that commitment is going
24:42
to pay dividends I think down the line for this, for this
24:45
class as well. When you got a guy who's, you
24:48
know, pushing 4 star consideration, I think if he
24:51
plays his entire junior season and and wasn't out with the foot
24:55
injury, he's a four-star right now.
24:57
I think maybe slipped a little bit just with not a whole lot of
25:00
junior film, but I think he re emerges as a four-star caliber
25:04
guy this year. So having him in the fold is
25:08
huge. And then Vineyard, you know,
25:10
Waukee, how about that tight end that what do you want to call it
25:14
tight end town or whatever whenever Jacobson going to A&M
25:17
at Waukee and now the northwest kid that Joe vineyards a
25:22
cyclone. So Isaiah Hanson, he's another
25:26
one in state from Newton High School.
25:28
He was the first commitment in this class.
25:30
So I think you know, all things considered, this staff is is
25:33
getting acclimated pretty well in state and in getting some of
25:37
these guys early. Iowa State has a general
25:40
manager. I hope I'm saying his name,
25:42
right. Ricky Saccone is Saccone.
25:44
Is that how do you say his name? Well, I'm calling him Ricky
25:47
Chicone. I might be wrong.
25:49
I think you're right. Maybe John Walters needs to
25:52
correct me or something. However, he would introduce
25:54
those guys. But yeah, yeah, he's the GM.
25:58
He he pretty much took over the role that Derek Hoosier had that
26:02
that's kind of that GM role as a director of player personnel,
26:06
whatever you want to call it has kind of become the thing in the
26:10
current era of college football with the, you know, handling the
26:13
NIL Rev share all that kind of the behind the scenes type of
26:17
stuff. Yeah.
26:18
And then that's so it's not new that just a new name then for I
26:22
would say, I guess what's his primary duty?
26:24
Is he allowed to actually go on the road as a general manager?
26:28
Do you know some of the rules that they are limited to or is
26:31
it basically, you know, he can go out and do what he has to do
26:35
as representative? Iowa State, What are the rules
26:38
there? Well, they, they seems like
26:41
they're ever changing. I'm, I'm not aware of him going
26:45
out on the road during this, you know, this recent evaluation
26:49
period. It was kind of a screw this kind
26:51
of screwy timing on it really because Iowa State was still in
26:55
spring ball. The evaluation period opened,
26:59
you know, for coaches to go out and see kids and Iowa State's
27:01
not going to miss time to be on the road when they're in spring
27:06
ball. So what they ended up doing was
27:08
sending out some of the some of the recruiting staff out.
27:13
I'm not sure that Chicone was out, but I do know some of the
27:17
other recruiting guys on the on the staff were out.
27:22
Some of the names kind of escaping me right now, but some
27:26
of the guys under under Chicone. OK, here we go.
27:32
Oh gosh, name Alex Self. He's one of them I'm really
27:36
thinking of here. He hits Saint Louis pretty hard,
27:39
I believe from that area. Andy Lucas was another one,
27:43
another one that has been pretty involved.
27:46
But I think Alex Self was probably the primary one that
27:48
was out on the road. I don't think he was doing a lot
27:51
of communicating with the kids. He was doing a lot of filming
27:55
and and talking to coaches. And then I think it was going
27:58
back to their lead recruiter would follow up with a phone
28:01
call or whatnot. But yeah, they've been this
28:04
recruiting staff's been very active and it's all kind of
28:08
being spearheaded by Ricky Chicone right now.
28:10
So general manager Trent, the first one, did you remember 1
28:13
before Belichick hired Michael Lombardi to be the general
28:17
manager? North Carolina?
28:19
I'd never heard referred to that, did you?
28:22
Yeah. I mean it been something that
28:24
has been out there and basketball, I think there was
28:26
more of that that was having a dedicated position to do it and
28:29
there are certain programs that don't do that, but that's been
28:32
out there. I think it's because we also do
28:34
the name and he used to be AGM at the end of that kind of
28:37
helped connect the dots. But this is our new reality,
28:40
Bill. I mean, as you see across the
28:41
industry, there's got to be something that everybody's going
28:44
to be doing right? Some form or fashion.
28:47
Salary cap is one thing, but just trying to find the guys and
28:50
and having that dedicated position feels like a new
28:53
position that has been created in college football.
28:56
Right. And, and correct me if I'm wrong
28:58
here, Trent, I think Tyler Barnes is in that role for Iowa
29:01
too, Correct? The GM and you know, I think
29:04
he's the chief of staff too. And, and Iowa State's got a
29:07
separate guy that's that that's the chief of staff.
29:10
So at Chacon's main role is, is general manager and, you know,
29:15
just handling everything. I think from a personnel
29:18
standpoint, you know, numbers, NIL, web share recruiting, who
29:25
you know, who they're bringing in.
29:26
He he was a pivotal figure. I think when the the staff got
29:31
to Ames and and they had to go to the transfer portal pretty
29:34
quickly. And you, I mean, you noticed
29:36
that Chacon was one of the first to join Rogers and Ames.
29:40
And I think that was by design because he was heading up all of
29:44
those efforts to, you know, flip this roster around.
29:48
I think what 81 new players they're going to have.
29:51
Not all of those are transfers, but that includes like the high
29:54
school editions and stuff. But he had a pretty pivotal
29:57
role, you know, especially earlier on, and he's still a
30:02
busy guy. Just getting ahead of this
30:04
switching to basketball. If Manchilovich decides that the
30:07
NBA is just it's not that that dream is not going to happen
30:10
this year. I don't know either way if it
30:12
will or will if it won't, but I'm starting to see Kentucky.
30:16
I'm seeing some removal for Manchilovich.
30:19
Is the door totally closed? I know that.
30:21
I mean, obviously TJ thought that he the likelihood of him
30:25
coming back to Ames was slim to maybe none because he went out
30:28
very quickly and he filled that roster and he spent, I'm
30:31
guessing a lot of money to do so.
30:33
We'll never know exactly how much, but Manchilovich is at
30:36
least listening to some pretty big names when it comes to the
30:40
the option for him to play his final year.
30:42
What are you hearing, if anything, Bill?
30:44
Yeah, I think that it's probably pretty well closed.
30:48
I I wouldn't say it's ever completely closed.
30:50
You you never say never. Iowa State does have one more
30:54
scholarship it can give. And I, I, I don't see him
30:58
probably using it and there's probably a #2 in mind if Milan
31:04
were to ever come back. You know, what's the number?
31:06
I'm not sure what exactly that number is.
31:08
They probably got a little bit left in their Rev share pot.
31:12
I, I would think with all the guys coming off the books this
31:15
year around him with, with Tayman and Joshua, but yeah, I
31:19
mean, when you're, when you're listening to, to Kentucky,
31:22
they're at this point in the process.
31:24
Iowa State's added five transfers already.
31:28
I, I would assume that Kentucky's number, he, he's not
31:32
going to turn that down. What we've seen them have a ton
31:36
of money to throw around in the transfer portal market, you
31:40
know, and the other thing the other thing is too is Pope is
31:44
probably on the hot seat that has to be and he's missed out.
31:49
You know, Kentucky's used to be in that blue blood team that can
31:52
go out and get these five star high school kids.
31:54
And you know, Tyron Stokes just committed to Kansas, another one
31:58
that Pope has has missed out on. So the pressure's on him.
32:03
You know, Milan's only got one year of eligibility left.
32:06
So I mean it, it's it stands to reason that and he's got a
32:10
pretty sizable offer out there that probably would make more
32:15
money playing for one season at at Kentucky then maybe he would
32:20
on a two way. And I again, I'm not sure what
32:23
the two way he would contract amounts are, but he'd probably
32:27
make more at Kentucky for a year than he would, you know, riding
32:30
that two way roller coaster in the NBA and G League.
32:34
And I saw something where Mark Pope did a live like Twitter
32:38
question and answer to make. Sure, that was great.
32:42
They he took a couple of hard questions.
32:44
I was surprised. Yeah, there were a couple, he
32:47
said. Though in that the clip that I
32:48
saw, they had 14 of the top 20 transfers took a visit to
32:52
Kentucky. Guess how many got to commit?
32:55
Zip. Zero.
32:56
Wow. Kentucky.
32:58
Kentucky and the thought is out there.
33:01
A lot of these players are using Kentucky for leverage and then
33:05
going other places on top of the other.
33:07
World we live. In absolutely a different world,
33:09
there is no doubt about it. Hey Bill, I did have a quick
33:12
football question for you. I was reading your article over
33:16
previewing the safeties and trying to figure out outside of
33:18
Drew Surgis who the hell are these guys we're doing all the
33:22
time? Braden also.
33:24
That was the big story really. His injury and being lost for
33:27
the season with the ACL. Does he have a red shirt year
33:30
available? Will he be able to to be
33:31
available for 2027? Well, I, I think I, he, he's got
33:36
a medical that he can use. I believe he's already used a
33:39
traditional, but I mean, there, there's no doubt in my mind he
33:43
could get a medical for what I mean, for they're, they're
33:45
handing out red shirt years like candy anymore.
33:48
And, and he's got a, he's got a legit case for a medical.
33:51
I mean, he's out for the entire year.
33:53
He's got a knee injury. So he could come back and in, in
33:58
2027. There's no doubt about that.
34:00
I think it's just a matter of if he if he wants to, you know, go
34:03
through the the whole process and and come back, I think he'd
34:07
be welcomed back. They've got a pretty big gap, as
34:10
you saw Trent on that, on that layout, a pretty huge gap
34:15
between seniors and then it gets pretty thin and you get into
34:18
sophomore and freshman, a lot of red shirt freshman and freshman
34:23
in that group. They've got a pretty young, you
34:26
know, nucleus there, but I think no doubt that Braden Alls would
34:30
be welcomed back in 2027 and be a huge piece.
34:33
But you know, going back to the original point, it's it really
34:38
is wide open at that spot right now.
34:40
They've got 3 red, well 2 red shirts seniors, a traditional
34:46
senior and a fourth year junior and Drew Surges we talked about
34:50
him a lot. I think those are probably the
34:52
four that are in the mix right now for those two starting
34:56
roles. So they'll have that nickel
34:58
slash hybrid type of safety that switches in and out with a Sam
35:03
linebacker in this scheme as well.
35:06
So we'll see how that all sorts out.
35:08
But a lot more unsettled, I think, than what it was the
35:12
beginning of the spring when everybody knew all's was was
35:15
going to be one of those starters.
35:16
I was also taking a peek and I appreciate over the weekend that
35:19
you updated the unofficial scholarship chart.
35:22
I just love looking at those things.
35:24
We've talked about this a little bit this spring with Iowa
35:26
football and how young they are and the lack of seniors.
35:29
Same thing for Iowa State. Who knows how what year #1 is
35:32
going to look like, but there's going to be a ton of guys that
35:35
at least have the opportunity to come back and feels like a
35:37
pretty good building block here, guys with a lot of years of
35:40
eligibility remaining. Yeah, there are.
35:43
And and I think, you know, this staff is, is going to be a lot
35:47
more aggressive in the portal. They had to be this year.
35:51
There's no secret in that. But I think when they get
35:53
settled in, they're going to be more aggressive probably than
35:57
the old staff. So you you look at you look at
36:00
the number of underclassmen, those guys and and this is an
36:04
evaluation time for for those guys are they did the staff was
36:08
not, you know, they didn't had no qualms about if there was not
36:12
a spot for a guy on the old team, he wasn't welcome back on
36:16
the new team. And I think they're they'll have
36:17
a serious assessment of everyone on this roster.
36:21
It's not just seniors that they'll lose, you know, they'll,
36:24
they'll have some other guys that they just don't think can
36:27
cut it at this level, you know, character issues what what have
36:31
you. So, yeah, I mean it.
36:33
They'll they'll look at those younger guys too.
36:35
And then, you know, the ones that they think are cut out for
36:38
this level make a nice nucleus for for future seasons.
36:41
And then they'll go out into the portal.
36:43
And, you know, we were talking about this kind of other media
36:46
guys on the Iowa State beat after spring ball.
36:49
And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they go out and and
36:53
they go get probably 30 more transfers this offseason.
36:57
You know, they'll need to replenish the senior class that
37:00
they lost. And then there will be just
37:02
those junior, sophomore, freshman that they just don't
37:05
think have a future in the program.
37:07
And they'll make no qualms about it that they don't have a spot
37:10
for him. And they'll go go hit the portal
37:13
again for 30. And then that's the way that's
37:15
the way things are these days. And it is it is a business.
37:18
All these guys are getting paid, so that's just kind of how
37:21
things go. Indeed it is.
37:23
Good stuff. Bill Seals, cyclonereport.com,
37:25
cyclonereport.com. Bill, have you covered on all
37:28
the Iowa State news that happens during the week?
37:30
And we'll speak with you a week from today.
37:32
Bill Seals, thanks for popping on again, as always.
37:34
Thanks, Bill. Looking forward to it guys, have
37:37
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I want to go. Go ahead.
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Yes, I want to go to that pizza. Pizza.
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Oh, it's so Philly. Oh yeah.
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And then we did just that. So so save.
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I mean, it's hard to you. You can't.
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There is no. Doubt What are you so just be at
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the beginning of the show. My theory was as a board Trent
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tinfoil hat, yes that the Lakers are going to win this game
39:27
tonight because LeBron James not the final game.
39:29
Is the Lakers not going to be on Prime Video?
39:32
That's not going to happen the the game Wednesday night, should
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there be 1 would be on ESPN. So if they do lose, what's his
39:40
what's his prop tonight points wise?
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Oh, LeBron tonight. Let's see jump on the prop page
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Best price 22 1/2. There it is.
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All right, it's in there. So now I got 7 picks.
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LeBron over what? Are your others?
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Others, we got weathers tonight going for the Yankees.
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We're going to go over 5 1/2 strikeouts.
40:19
Yankees swept that they did by the Brew Crew for the first time
40:23
since 1989. Wasn't really the Brewers swept
40:26
them in a three plus game series.
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I am also going with the youngster for the Giants, the
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McDonald kid. He was really good in his first
40:33
start at 8 strikeouts there. We'll go right back to the well.
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3 1/2 is the number yet 8 in his first one.
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We played the Dodgers. He has played the Dodgers.
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Champus in first place in the American League East, they.
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Big of a favorite on the road. And did you see what they did at
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goalie? No.
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What are they doing? Take a guess because it is
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official. Wedgewood.
41:31
They're going Blackwood. Are they they're?
41:33
Going with Mackenzie Blackwood here.
41:37
Sticking with him, he only gave up one night.
41:40
Yeah. He gave up one.
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Gave up one, yeah. One, yeah.
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And I don't think that. I think that was an empty
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number. Never, wasn't it?
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Or was there one that was one when he came in?
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Yeah, all. Right, that's going to do it for
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us. Off the bench is coming up next.
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I'm going to take a couple days off TC, steer the ship for the
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next two. He'll be back tomorrow at noon.
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