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- 1:22Speaker 1: But now, from October eleventh, nineteen fifty one, here is
- 1:27Speaker 1: the Big Shoplift.
- 1:39Speaker 2: The story you're about to hear is true. The names
- 1:42Speaker 2: have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a detective sergeant.
- 1:54Speaker 2: You're assigned the burglary detail. A wave of shoplifting breaks
- 1:58Speaker 2: out in your city. There's no pattern to the thieves operations.
- 2:02Speaker 2: There are no leads weeks pass, the number of thefts
- 2:06Speaker 2: keep growing. Your job stop them.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. While the
- 2:22Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
- 2:26Speaker 3: you will travel step by step on the side of
- 2:28Speaker 3: the law through an actual case transcribed from official police buyers,
- 2:32Speaker 3: from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is
- 2:36Speaker 3: the story of your police force in action.
- 2:44Speaker 4: It was Tuesday, August twenty second, was hot in Los Angeles.
- 2:47Speaker 4: We're working the day watch out of burglary detail. My
- 2:50Speaker 4: partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Wisdom. My name's Friday.
- 2:54Speaker 4: It was two eighteen pm when we got to Anthony's
- 2:56Speaker 4: Store for Women, the general manager's office. Mister Radio, come
- 3:01Speaker 4: right in. Thank you, thank you.
- 3:04Speaker 5: My name is from Marrow said, I talked to you
- 3:05Speaker 5: on the phone. This is my partner, Sergeant Friday, how earlier.
- 3:08Speaker 5: How are you certainly glad to see him? Yeah, let
- 3:11Speaker 5: me get another chair here.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
- 3:14Speaker 5: I haven't had time for my have to lench cigarette
- 3:17Speaker 5: yet you got to join me. I gotta like, oh, well,
- 3:28Speaker 5: I guess you know what the problem is. No need
- 3:30Speaker 5: for me to go all the way back and stuff
- 3:32Speaker 5: from the beginning. I didn't get it quite clear on
- 3:34Speaker 5: the phone, mister alliot.
- 3:35Speaker 4: When did this last thing come up?
- 3:37Speaker 5: Well, the way we have figured out, it must have
- 3:39Speaker 5: happened around closing time yesterday between five five thirty.
- 3:41Speaker 4: We figured the store was pretty crowded at that time,
- 3:44Speaker 4: was it.
- 3:44Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty busy with a special pre winter showing
- 3:47Speaker 5: in the further department. No one noticed it was gone
- 3:49Speaker 5: till after we'd closed up.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Can you give us a description of the piece of merchandise, auster.
- 3:53Speaker 5: Elia, Yes, yeah, we got it right, complete description, silver
- 4:01Speaker 5: blue mink stole, saturn lining, two slash pockets, silver chain fastener,
- 4:05Speaker 5: complete description of it for thank you.
- 4:08Speaker 4: These are the code numbers in the serial number signs.
- 4:11Speaker 4: That's right.
- 4:12Speaker 5: The whole thing's getting way out of hand side and
- 4:14Speaker 5: we had a lot of things lifted from the store
- 4:16Speaker 5: the last few weeks, but nothing this big.
- 4:18Speaker 4: This keeps up. I don't see how we're going to
- 4:20Speaker 4: get our insurance rem new.
- 4:21Speaker 5: I guess your store detectives you're working on this latest
- 4:24Speaker 5: woman missing burn. Yes, but it's the same as all
- 4:27Speaker 5: the recent cases we've had. They haven't been able to
- 4:29Speaker 5: find a thing All the personnel have been checked. All
- 4:32Speaker 5: the people who are around the depopping on the further stolen,
- 4:34Speaker 5: I mean those it was possible to check on. As
- 4:37Speaker 5: far as we know, they're all clear.
- 4:39Speaker 4: What were the circumstances of this thing? This really? I mean,
- 4:42Speaker 4: was this mink stole on the display rack? Did one
- 4:44Speaker 4: of the models have it on? Exactly? How was it? Well,
- 4:46Speaker 4: it was model.
- 4:47Speaker 5: Yes, after we've shown the several parties, it was put
- 4:50Speaker 5: back in Stark. We have a special rack for the
- 4:52Speaker 5: stoles regularly and closed cabinet sliding doors on the cabinets
- 4:56Speaker 5: usually open during the store hours. I see there was
- 4:58Speaker 5: a store detective in the department of the time. All
- 5:01Speaker 5: those salespeople are standing around. You didn't understand why one
- 5:04Speaker 5: of them didn't see it happened.
- 5:06Speaker 4: Mister Allie, you say this is the first time an
- 5:08Speaker 4: expensive item like this has been lifted from this door.
- 5:10Speaker 4: That's right about the personnel, Miss Rellie, you say there's
- 5:14Speaker 4: been a check made on each one of them since
- 5:15Speaker 4: this thing started. Yeah, so that's correct, and there's no
- 5:17Speaker 4: reason to be suspicious at all of any one of
- 5:19Speaker 4: your people.
- 5:21Speaker 5: Well, as a matter of fact, there is one sergeant
- 5:23Speaker 5: the sales girl. She was up in five in the
- 5:25Speaker 5: sweet sixteen shop, and she was moved down to cosmetics
- 5:28Speaker 5: on the street floor.
- 5:29Speaker 4: What is it to make you suspicious? Parry?
- 5:32Speaker 5: Well, before I say anything, I want to make it Perry.
- 5:35Speaker 5: You're clear to you. We've never had any real proof
- 5:37Speaker 5: that there was something wrong there. Directly started with us
- 5:41Speaker 5: eight years ago. That's a girl's name, Doc Kirkin. She
- 5:45Speaker 5: came to us right out of high school. Seemed to
- 5:47Speaker 5: be doing all right that along with the customers, dress sneakly,
- 5:50Speaker 5: always on time, and all of a sudden this shoplifting started.
- 5:54Speaker 5: We didn't think there was any connection. For us, thought
- 5:57Speaker 5: it was only coincidence. How do you manage it? Well,
- 6:01Speaker 5: just for instance, they wait, amant, get the file on
- 6:04Speaker 5: the right hand, and dead, I see, I am here
- 6:12Speaker 5: it is. Out of the first fourteen items that disappear,
- 6:16Speaker 5: six of them are out of Dorothy Kirkman's department, right
- 6:19Speaker 5: out of her section, casuals, sweater's, expensive blouse as scarves.
- 6:22Speaker 4: So I say, at first we wrote it off to.
- 6:24Speaker 5: Coincidence, but it kept recurring. Her section almost seemed to
- 6:28Speaker 5: be the focal point of all the shoplifting.
- 6:30Speaker 4: But that was at the beginning, of course, did you
- 6:32Speaker 4: have the Kirkman girl watched Miss arling Ya as we did.
- 6:35Speaker 4: The apartment had kept a NYE and.
- 6:36Speaker 5: Well, I guess Dorothy noticed that she resented it quite
- 6:40Speaker 5: a bit, had a little spat with the head of
- 6:41Speaker 5: the department. We thought it'd be best for everyone as
- 6:45Speaker 5: she transferred, so we had to move downstairs to cosmetics.
- 6:48Speaker 4: How did that arrangement work out?
- 6:50Speaker 6: Well?
- 6:50Speaker 5: For the first few weeks fine, and we started missing
- 6:53Speaker 5: things out of cosmetics. A lot of it didn't amount
- 6:55Speaker 5: to too much. A lot of it did make up
- 6:58Speaker 5: kids expensive perfumes. This time he called her in and
- 7:01Speaker 5: tried to talk to her about it a nice way.
- 7:04Speaker 5: He got very resonful.
- 7:05Speaker 4: She denied knowing anything about it. An yes, you are
- 7:08Speaker 4: very upset of curus. There is one thing I will say.
- 7:11Speaker 5: The items and cosmetics are on display all over the
- 7:13Speaker 5: contests felt easy for anybody to pick them up. The
- 7:16Speaker 5: fact still remains as stealing began on her department upstairs.
- 7:20Speaker 5: She moves over to cosmetics, and all of a sudden
- 7:22Speaker 5: the losses increased there.
- 7:25Speaker 4: What would you figure, Yes, yeah, I see what you mean.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Wonder if you could have somebody point out this Dorothy
- 7:29Speaker 4: Kirkman for us. Miss Elia, I think, Mayane, we better
- 7:31Speaker 4: have a talk with it and would like to help
- 7:33Speaker 4: your size. And I'm afraid that's not possible. Oh what
- 7:35Speaker 4: do you mean? She quit last Saturday. We got all
- 7:40Speaker 4: the information available on Dorothy Kirkman from the store's personnel files,
- 7:44Speaker 4: and then we called the office and gave him a
- 7:45Speaker 4: description of the stolen fur. We asked them to check
- 7:48Speaker 4: the Kirkman girl through and I she had no previous
- 7:51Speaker 4: criminal record. Before we left the store, we went to
- 7:53Speaker 4: the fur department, talked to all the salespeople concerned, but
- 7:56Speaker 4: we were unable to come up with anything new regarding
- 7:58Speaker 4: the theft of the silver blue minks. We drove out
- 8:01Speaker 4: to Dorothy Kirkman's last known address. She wasn't at home,
- 8:04Speaker 4: but her mother was. The mother told us that the
- 8:06Speaker 4: day before her daughter had started on a new job
- 8:09Speaker 4: as a salesgirl at the House of Raymond, and exclusive
- 8:12Speaker 4: shop specializing in all types of cosmetics. We checked the
- 8:15Speaker 4: phone book and found that the House of Raymond was
- 8:17Speaker 4: located in the same ten blocks stretch along Wilshire Boulevard
- 8:20Speaker 4: where the shoplifting campaign was going on. It was one
- 8:23Speaker 4: of the few places along there that the thieves hadn't bothered.
- 8:26Speaker 4: It was three blocks from Anthony's Store for Women, the
- 8:29Speaker 4: Kirkman girl's former place of employment. Four or five pm,
- 8:33Speaker 4: we located her behind one of the front counters. Across
- 8:35Speaker 4: the aisle. Half a dozen women were listening to a
- 8:37Speaker 4: makeup demonstrator giving a talk on complexion care. Dorothy Kirkman
- 8:41Speaker 4: seemed pleasant and cooperative.
- 8:44Speaker 6: No, I don't mind telling you. I got sickond tared
- 8:47Speaker 6: of being called a thief. That's why I quit Anthony's.
- 8:49Speaker 6: A little event goes a long way.
- 8:51Speaker 5: You started working here at Raymond's yesterday, Miss Kirkman's error.
- 8:54Speaker 6: Yes, that's right. I think I'm going to like it
- 8:56Speaker 6: a lot better than Anthony's.
- 8:57Speaker 4: M While you were working here at Anthony's, ma'am, I
- 8:59Speaker 4: suppose you to. I heard that quite a bit of
- 9:00Speaker 4: shoplifting was going on, so I.
- 9:02Speaker 7: Knew about it. I guess every girl in the store,
- 9:04Speaker 7: and you're it. They had a big personnel meeting about it.
- 9:07Speaker 4: You have any suspicions of your own, Miss Kirkland, How
- 9:09Speaker 4: do you mean that? Well? I mean, was there anyone
- 9:11Speaker 4: in particular that you might have been a little suspicious?
- 9:13Speaker 4: Of maybe one of the customers.
- 9:14Speaker 7: No, I've waited on some real weird ones, but I
- 9:17Speaker 7: didn't see any of them ever try to walk out
- 9:19Speaker 7: with anything. Well, I knew was what mister Elliott told
- 9:22Speaker 7: us at that meeting.
- 9:23Speaker 5: Well, this might be an embarrassing question for you, mission,
- 9:25Speaker 5: we'd appreciate an understanding.
- 9:27Speaker 4: Yes, what about the sales girls you worked with? Did
- 9:29Speaker 4: any of them ever give you cass to be suspicions?
- 9:33Speaker 6: You mean, do I think any of them were doing
- 9:34Speaker 6: the stealing? No, there was some of them I didn't like.
- 9:38Speaker 6: I didn't trust him either, but I wouldn't accuse him
- 9:40Speaker 6: of stealing. I wouldn't accuse anybody unless I had proved.
- 9:43Speaker 6: That's more than I can say for.
- 9:44Speaker 8: Some people I know.
- 9:45Speaker 4: O'Brien, Any chance did you happen to be in Anthony's
- 9:48Speaker 4: this past Monday?
- 9:49Speaker 9: Monday?
- 9:50Speaker 10: No?
- 9:50Speaker 6: Why did he ask?
- 9:51Speaker 4: When you were working on the fifth floor off the
- 9:52Speaker 4: street at Anthony's? For I understand that when the merchandise
- 9:56Speaker 4: first started disappearing, a pretty good percentage of it was
- 9:58Speaker 4: out of your section.
- 10:00Speaker 6: That's what the toom he is.
- 10:01Speaker 4: And then when you were transferred downstairs to the cosmetics condor,
- 10:04Speaker 4: quite a few things started disappearing from there. Now we'd
- 10:06Speaker 4: like an understand heer, missus Kirkman, do you have any
- 10:09Speaker 4: explanations at all?
- 10:10Speaker 11: Of us?
- 10:11Speaker 6: I'll tell you the same thing I told them that
- 10:13Speaker 6: the store. Sergeant, I can't explain it, but I didn't
- 10:15Speaker 6: have anything to.
- 10:16Speaker 11: Do with it.
- 10:16Speaker 5: Believe me, well, you don't have to admit miss It's
- 10:18Speaker 5: pretty much of a coincidence, isn't it.
- 10:21Speaker 9: Sergeant.
- 10:21Speaker 6: You can call it anything you want to. I didn't
- 10:23Speaker 6: have anything to do with it. The only thing I ever.
- 10:26Speaker 7: Took home from that store was my paycheck. Would you
- 10:29Speaker 7: excuse me, please, customer, I have to win, yes.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Mainly, right, I have h What do you think? I
- 10:36Speaker 4: don't know. It's a nice enough girl. Seems to be
- 10:39Speaker 4: telling the truth. Could be a coincidence the way it
- 10:42Speaker 4: worked out, nothing to prove otherwise. Four thirty eight pm
- 10:48Speaker 4: we finished questioning the suspect, Dorothy Kirkman and Ben and
- 10:51Speaker 4: I went back to the office and made arrangements to
- 10:53Speaker 4: have the girl kept under temporary surveillance. A bulletin had
- 10:56Speaker 4: been gotten out on the missing first stole. The pawn
- 10:58Speaker 4: shop detail had been notable, and a description of the
- 11:01Speaker 4: fur had been placed on the stolen property list. The
- 11:03Speaker 4: following day, along with Sergeants Dick Rubles and Jim Taber,
- 11:06Speaker 4: we continued our investigation of the latest shoplifting complaints. It
- 11:10Speaker 4: went slow, a lot of leg work and no progress.
- 11:13Speaker 4: Like the dozens of other items of merchandise which had
- 11:15Speaker 4: vanished in the last eight weeks, there wasn't a trace
- 11:17Speaker 4: of the missing fur stole. More men were added to
- 11:20Speaker 4: the special detail on duty in the ten block area
- 11:22Speaker 4: where the ceiling was going on. Anybody in the city
- 11:25Speaker 4: who'd ever served time for shoplifting was checked and rechecked.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Constant surveillance was maintained over a half a dozen known
- 11:31Speaker 4: thieves who we figured might be involved. It got us nothing. When'sday,
- 11:35Speaker 4: August twenty third, five thirty pm. No leads, no progress.
- 11:39Speaker 4: We went back to the office.
- 11:42Speaker 5: I sure hope I get home before six o'clock. And
- 11:44Speaker 5: I want to see that shoe.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Repair man out in our neighborhood. Oh, what's the matter?
- 11:47Speaker 4: He needs some half soles.
- 11:49Speaker 10: No.
- 11:49Speaker 5: I went in his shop the other day and he
- 11:51Speaker 5: conned me into a new set of art supports. As
- 11:52Speaker 5: a matter of fact, he didn't even call him art
- 11:54Speaker 5: support or do. He said they were meta carsals support,
- 11:57Speaker 5: you know, support some men at Tarcon. Yeah, that's one
- 11:59Speaker 5: of the bones on the foot. He saw me a
- 12:02Speaker 5: pair of these things and told me I should wear
- 12:03Speaker 5: only one of them in my rack shoe.
- 12:05Speaker 4: Now, what's the matter with that? Isn't it working out measurable?
- 12:08Speaker 5: I feel like I've been walking around with one foot
- 12:10Speaker 5: in the bucket.
- 12:16Speaker 4: I checked the book. Okay anything?
- 12:23Speaker 5: Yeah, sure it is from Robus. What you got at
- 12:26Speaker 5: mink fur? It's been found.
- 12:29Speaker 4: Two hours before, at approximately three thirty pm in the
- 12:32Speaker 4: main depot of the Santa Fe Bus Lines, a thirty
- 12:35Speaker 4: eight year old housewife, a Missus Harriet Briggs, noticed an
- 12:38Speaker 4: unclaimed parcel lying on one of the benches in the
- 12:40Speaker 4: depot waiting room. When it became apparent to Missus Briggs
- 12:43Speaker 4: that the parcel was either lost or forgotten, she picked
- 12:46Speaker 4: it up and took it to the clerk in charge
- 12:47Speaker 4: of Lost and Found articles. In checking the package for
- 12:51Speaker 4: some kind of identification, they discovered the silver blue mink
- 12:53Speaker 4: stole inside. The car was dispatched to pick up the fur,
- 12:56Speaker 4: and it was identified as the garment taken from Anthony's
- 12:58Speaker 4: first salon. Missus Briggs volunteered to come along to the
- 13:02Speaker 4: office to give what information she could. A steakout was
- 13:04Speaker 4: placed at the bus depot in case anybody called for
- 13:07Speaker 4: the package. Five point fifty pm we interviewed missus Briggs
- 13:11Speaker 4: in the.
- 13:11Speaker 12: Squad room that's right Offster. It was just a little
- 13:14Speaker 12: before three point thirty. I was in the bus depole
- 13:17Speaker 12: there waiting for my husband. That's when I first noticed
- 13:20Speaker 12: this package lying on the bench.
- 13:22Speaker 8: Just across from me.
- 13:23Speaker 4: I see, wou'd you go on pleasiness break.
- 13:25Speaker 12: I didn't think anything of it at first. I went
- 13:28Speaker 12: on reading the afternoon paper. But no one came for
- 13:30Speaker 12: the package. It was just lying there. Was there a
- 13:34Speaker 12: long time.
- 13:34Speaker 4: How long would you say, ma'am? I mean before you
- 13:36Speaker 4: pick it up and took it to the Lost and
- 13:37Speaker 4: Fine clerk.
- 13:38Speaker 12: Oh, I'd say twenty minutes, uh.
- 13:42Speaker 8: Half an hour that much at least.
- 13:45Speaker 12: I left it with the young man at the counter there,
- 13:47Speaker 12: and I told him I'd be back to see if
- 13:49Speaker 12: anyone claimed it. Well, when I did get back, that's
- 13:54Speaker 12: after I had dinner with my husband, Carl, we found
- 13:57Speaker 12: out what was in the package.
- 14:00Speaker 8: Certainly strange, don't you think of yes.
- 14:02Speaker 4: Ma'am, did you happen to notice at all who it
- 14:04Speaker 4: was it left the packager.
- 14:06Speaker 13: Well, I'm not really sure, officer, but.
- 14:09Speaker 8: I think I know who it was. A tall woman.
- 14:14Speaker 8: She had a brown jacket.
- 14:16Speaker 12: If I remember rightly, I think you'd say she was
- 14:20Speaker 12: in her early thirties.
- 14:21Speaker 4: Have you ever seen this woman before, Miss Brakes?
- 14:23Speaker 12: No, I never did very attractive, as I recall that
- 14:28Speaker 12: she wore blackses.
- 14:29Speaker 4: Anything else about it you might have noticed.
- 14:31Speaker 14: I think she had blonde hair.
- 14:34Speaker 9: I remember that much.
- 14:36Speaker 12: The reason I do remember it is cause she wore
- 14:38Speaker 12: it like I used to when I was a girl,
- 14:40Speaker 12: you know, sort of back in in the bun like this.
- 14:44Speaker 5: And J're pretty sure that this woman you described as
- 14:46Speaker 5: the one who left the packager.
- 14:49Speaker 13: I remember rightly she was the She's the only one
- 14:53Speaker 13: that sat across from me. Yes, it must be her,
- 14:57Speaker 13: but it wasn't her. I don't know who else it
- 14:59Speaker 13: could have been.
- 15:00Speaker 4: All Right, Miss Briggs, thank you very much. We appreciate it.
- 15:02Speaker 9: That beautiful fur.
- 15:04Speaker 8: I know that woman must be just sick about loseness. Certainly,
- 15:07Speaker 8: hope you find an.
- 15:08Speaker 4: Officer, yes, ma'am, so do we We had the Stat's
- 15:13Speaker 4: office make a run for us and all females with
- 15:15Speaker 4: shoplifting records who fitted the description of the woman who'd
- 15:18Speaker 4: left the mink stole in the waiting room at the
- 15:19Speaker 4: bus depot. The following morning, we checked with the men
- 15:22Speaker 4: on steak out of the depot. They told us nobody
- 15:24Speaker 4: had come back to report losing such a parcel. Together
- 15:27Speaker 4: with Roubles and Tabor, we spent most of the day
- 15:30Speaker 4: checking out the names on the list of known shoplifters
- 15:32Speaker 4: which the Stats Office had made up for us. Names
- 15:34Speaker 4: of possible suspects who physically resembled a tall, blonde woman
- 15:37Speaker 4: seen at the depot. We got nowhere. Either they had
- 15:40Speaker 4: ironclad alibis or they had since moved out of the city.
- 15:44Speaker 4: We ran down every possible angle on the freak recovery
- 15:46Speaker 4: of the missing fur stole. During the next ten days,
- 15:49Speaker 4: the case got more involved than it already was. Some
- 15:52Speaker 4: of the stolen articles of new merchandise began showing up,
- 15:55Speaker 4: but not through any of the channels we expected. Some
- 15:58Speaker 4: of the items were found Dumpton's sidewalk refuse cans, Some
- 16:01Speaker 4: were found in hotel lobbies, in the post office, in theaters.
- 16:05Speaker 4: Some were found tossed in vacant lots. The only logical
- 16:08Speaker 4: answer we could figure was that it was the work
- 16:10Speaker 4: of somebody who was stealing for just the love of stealing.
- 16:12Speaker 4: I clept a maniac. Tuesday, September fourth, a fifteen year
- 16:16Speaker 4: old girl in one of the exclusive residential neighborhoods reported
- 16:19Speaker 4: finding two parcels containing women's clothing and expensive costume jewelry.
- 16:23Speaker 4: They still had the price tags on them, and they
- 16:25Speaker 4: totaled three hundred and sixty dollars. Ben and I drove
- 16:27Speaker 4: out to talk to the girl of Patricia Denvers. Where'd
- 16:30Speaker 4: you happen to find these things? For Trivia dy lot?
- 16:33Speaker 11: Right down the block there, I was on my way
- 16:35Speaker 11: home from the show. I took the things home and
- 16:37Speaker 11: showed my mother. She called the police.
- 16:39Speaker 9: Nobody claims it's package with a costume jewelry? Can I
- 16:42Speaker 9: keep it? Certainly of beautiful?
- 16:43Speaker 4: Afraid not, miss. We know who the things belonged to.
- 16:45Speaker 4: Were going to have to return them.
- 16:47Speaker 6: Oh, I certainly don't understand that.
- 16:49Speaker 4: Well, what do you mean?
- 16:50Speaker 9: As far as I could see, she threw the things away.
- 16:52Speaker 9: I thought she didn't want What.
- 16:53Speaker 4: Do you mean who didn't want them?
- 16:55Speaker 9: Well, the lady who threw him in the empty lot?
- 16:57Speaker 4: You saw who it was that threw the packages in
- 16:59Speaker 4: that lot.
- 17:00Speaker 11: Yes, I was on my way home from the show,
- 17:02Speaker 11: just like I told you, I could see this lady
- 17:04Speaker 11: walking up ahead of me. She was about a block away.
- 17:06Speaker 11: I get when she went by the lot. I saw
- 17:08Speaker 11: her take these packages from under arm and toss them
- 17:10Speaker 11: in the grass. She wouldn't do that if she wanted them,
- 17:13Speaker 11: would she did.
- 17:14Speaker 4: You get a good look at this woman, You have
- 17:15Speaker 4: any idea what she looks like.
- 17:16Speaker 11: She's a good looking one. Tall, she's beautiful, blond hair.
- 17:20Speaker 11: Husband's adoctor and you know who she is.
- 17:22Speaker 4: You've seen him before.
- 17:23Speaker 9: Well, I don't know where to talk to. I just
- 17:25Speaker 9: see her in the neighborhood.
- 17:26Speaker 4: Does she live around here? Do you know that? Yeah?
- 17:28Speaker 9: All right next door to my girlfriend.
- 17:40Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet Authentic stories of your police
- 17:44Speaker 3: force and action.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Tuesday, September fourth, five, fifteen VM, with the help of
- 17:57Speaker 4: the fifteen year old girl, Patricia Denvers, we got the
- 18:00Speaker 4: name and address of the woman who had been seen
- 18:01Speaker 4: tossing the parcels of stolen merchandise into a vacant lot
- 18:04Speaker 4: in the west end of the city. The woman was
- 18:07Speaker 4: identified as a Missus Virginia Sterling, the wife of a
- 18:10Speaker 4: doctor Bruce Sterling, a fairly prominent young surgeon with offices
- 18:13Speaker 4: in Beverly Hills. Missus Sterling and her husband had no children,
- 18:17Speaker 4: at least a richly furnished apartment in the residential section
- 18:19Speaker 4: of the city that was considered better than the upper
- 18:21Speaker 4: middle class. We checked Virginia Sterling through our and IYE,
- 18:24Speaker 4: but she had no previous criminal record that we knew of.
- 18:27Speaker 4: Together with Sergeants Rubles and Tabor, we covered the various
- 18:30Speaker 4: stores along Wilshire Boulevard that had been victimized in the
- 18:32Speaker 4: recent shoplifting campaign. We found that Missus Sterling had charge
- 18:36Speaker 4: accounts at almost every one of the stores. Generally speaking,
- 18:39Speaker 4: we found her accounts in very good standing and among
- 18:42Speaker 4: the store people she was regarded as what is referred
- 18:44Speaker 4: to as a fine customer, a good spender, and a
- 18:46Speaker 4: good credit risk. Right down to the retail Credit Association,
- 18:50Speaker 4: there was nothing but favorable reports on the woman. Seven
- 18:53Speaker 4: fifteen pm, Ben and I had a hamburger and some
- 18:55Speaker 4: chili and a cup of coffee for dinner, and then
- 18:57Speaker 4: we drove out to the apartment of doctor Sterling and
- 18:59Speaker 4: his wife, Missus Sterling answered the door and invited us in.
- 19:02Speaker 4: We identified ourselves. She told us the doctor was out
- 19:05Speaker 4: on a call. She showed us into the living room,
- 19:07Speaker 4: modern furniture and direct lighting, expensive rugs.
- 19:10Speaker 8: Won't you sit down, gentlemen?
- 19:11Speaker 4: Thank you very much? Should I get you a drink?
- 19:13Speaker 4: I was just having my coffee and brandy? No, thank you.
- 19:15Speaker 8: I really don't know when the doctor will be back.
- 19:17Speaker 8: He was called over to the hospital. Is there anything
- 19:19Speaker 8: I can help you with?
- 19:19Speaker 4: Well?
- 19:20Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, Missus Sterling, we came out
- 19:22Speaker 5: to talk to you, not your husband.
- 19:23Speaker 8: Oh really, what is it you wanted to talk to
- 19:25Speaker 8: me about?
- 19:26Speaker 4: Sergeant ma'am well Man?
- 19:27Speaker 5: We understand that you do quite a bit of your
- 19:29Speaker 5: shopping along Wilship Bulevard, Is that right?
- 19:31Speaker 4: Well?
- 19:32Speaker 14: Yes, I shop downtown quite often, except the problem of parking.
- 19:36Speaker 8: I find it a lot more than Senian.
- 19:37Speaker 4: Why do you ask, Missus Sterling? Do you do much
- 19:39Speaker 4: of your shopping at Anthony's? I believe that's out in
- 19:41Speaker 4: the Wheelshair district.
- 19:42Speaker 8: Yes, I do, for my sports clothes especially, they have
- 19:45Speaker 8: a very good selection.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Would you remember if you were in Anthony's on the
- 19:48Speaker 4: twenty second of last month? I believe that was a
- 19:50Speaker 4: Tuesday on a Tuesday.
- 19:54Speaker 8: No, I don't think I could remember one way or
- 19:56Speaker 8: the other. I really don't have.
- 19:57Speaker 14: Any special day for shopping. I just go when I
- 19:59Speaker 14: feel like it I need something.
- 20:00Speaker 5: Have you ever been in a person line of Anthony's, ma'am?
- 20:03Speaker 5: Have you ever made any purchases there?
- 20:05Speaker 14: I suppose I've been in almost every department of Anthony's
- 20:07Speaker 14: at one time or another. I can tell you, though,
- 20:09Speaker 14: I've never bought any freuds there. As I told you,
- 20:12Speaker 14: the main reason I go there at all is because
- 20:13Speaker 14: of their sports. Where could you tell me what this
- 20:17Speaker 14: is about?
- 20:17Speaker 4: Please? Routine investigation, ma'am. I wonder if you could tell
- 20:20Speaker 4: us this.
- 20:21Speaker 5: Do you have any occasion to travel in the area
- 20:23Speaker 5: of the Santa Fe bus depot by bus?
- 20:25Speaker 14: No, I don't think I've been on a bus since
- 20:29Speaker 14: well since I've been married, and that'll be six years
- 20:31Speaker 14: it's coming December.
- 20:32Speaker 4: You've never been in the Santa Fe bus depot downtown.
- 20:35Speaker 8: No.
- 20:36Speaker 14: I think I know where it is. I've driven past it.
- 20:38Speaker 14: I've never been inside, though. Why should you want to
- 20:41Speaker 14: know that?
- 20:42Speaker 4: Well, Miss Sterling, We're gonna be honest with you. This
- 20:44Speaker 4: has to do with an investigation we're on now. We've
- 20:46Speaker 4: had a couple of reports that you were seeing at
- 20:48Speaker 4: the Santa Fe bus depot on August twenty third. That
- 20:50Speaker 4: was on a Wednesday. Reports came from pretty reliable people.
- 20:54Speaker 14: Well, I certainly consider myself reliable, and I say I've
- 20:57Speaker 14: never been there. Now, if you don't mind, I'd like
- 20:59Speaker 14: some kind of explanation for this questioning.
- 21:01Speaker 4: You mean you have no idea why we drove out
- 21:03Speaker 4: here to talk to you.
- 21:04Speaker 14: Of course, not number one, I don't understand your questions
- 21:07Speaker 14: at oh.
- 21:07Speaker 8: Number two, I'd like to know what they have to
- 21:09Speaker 8: do with me.
- 21:10Speaker 4: Well, has this to do with you, ma'am? Last August
- 21:12Speaker 4: twenty third, a woman in a brown sports jacket, answering
- 21:15Speaker 4: your description, left the package in the Santa Fe bus depot.
- 21:18Speaker 4: This package contained a mink stole taken from Anthony's. The
- 21:21Speaker 4: woman who left the package in the depot fits your
- 21:23Speaker 4: description perfectly.
- 21:25Speaker 8: That's all. That's a coincidence, Yes, ma'am.
- 21:27Speaker 4: Maybe I suppose you've read in the papers about the
- 21:30Speaker 4: big increase in shoplifting. Most of it's taking place right
- 21:32Speaker 4: in the area where you say you do most of
- 21:34Speaker 4: your buying. Well, we've checked out every single one of
- 21:37Speaker 4: the cases, Misisterling, took us a long time. We found
- 21:40Speaker 4: a dozen salespeople in those stores. Every one of them
- 21:42Speaker 4: tells us that you were around a particular store when
- 21:44Speaker 4: the shoplifting took place. A lot of averages, Miss Sterling,
- 21:48Speaker 4: you show up too often in the reports.
- 21:50Speaker 8: Would you please leave my house? Both out? You please?
- 21:54Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Miss Sterling, but you'd have to come along
- 21:56Speaker 4: with us.
- 21:57Speaker 8: What do you mean by that?
- 21:59Speaker 14: Don't you know you can get in trouble making five accusations.
- 22:02Speaker 14: I'm going to call my husband right.
- 22:04Speaker 5: Now, Yes, ma'am, peel I go right ahead, sergeant, Yes, ma'am.
- 22:25Speaker 6: What is it?
- 22:27Speaker 8: What do you want to know? You can tell me.
- 22:29Speaker 4: I think you know already.
- 22:31Speaker 8: What do you want tell me? Please?
- 22:34Speaker 4: We've got your story, ma'am. Right up to this afternoon.
- 22:36Speaker 4: You went shopping today. You stole things, as usual when
- 22:39Speaker 4: you try to get rid of them. You were seen
- 22:40Speaker 4: right in this neighborhood where they can lock down the
- 22:43Speaker 4: next corner and you throw them away. There. Somebody saw you.
- 22:47Speaker 4: They didn't know it was me, Yes, ma'am, they know
- 22:49Speaker 4: it was you. Yes.
- 22:52Speaker 8: How can I make them understand?
- 22:55Speaker 4: You know?
- 22:56Speaker 14: No ma'am, horrible shame. I couldn't tell my husband, I
- 23:03Speaker 14: couldn't tell Boose.
- 23:05Speaker 4: I couldn't Well, never mind, we'll tell them for you.
- 23:15Speaker 4: Nine thirty five pm we got in the car and
- 23:17Speaker 4: drove missus Sterling downtown to the city Hall. We took
- 23:20Speaker 4: her to the interrogation room, called a police stenographer, and
- 23:23Speaker 4: we began to take her complete statement. One of the
- 23:25Speaker 4: first things she did was to admit full responsibility for
- 23:27Speaker 4: the series of shopliftings, which had been going on for
- 23:30Speaker 4: over two months. She told us that her kleptomania, the
- 23:33Speaker 4: urge to steal things, had started with her as far
- 23:35Speaker 4: back as her junior high school years. She admitted as
- 23:38Speaker 4: a girl, she stole books, tablets, pencils, pieces of chalk,
- 23:41Speaker 4: and as she grew older it seemed to get more
- 23:43Speaker 4: serious with her. It carried over into her college years,
- 23:46Speaker 4: and that's when her stealing first got her into trouble.
- 23:48Speaker 9: It's when I joined a sorority.
- 23:50Speaker 14: It was just like high school. I was all alone.
- 23:53Speaker 14: We had a lot of clever girls.
- 23:54Speaker 8: In our house.
- 23:55Speaker 14: Some of them were smart, some of them were pretty.
- 23:58Speaker 14: All of them seemed to be doing something except me.
- 24:00Speaker 8: I had to prove it to them. I guess I
- 24:02Speaker 8: had to prove it to myself.
- 24:04Speaker 4: I was smart too.
- 24:05Speaker 5: Uh see, you figured that taking things was the best
- 24:08Speaker 5: way to prove that.
- 24:09Speaker 14: Yes, I suppose so. Of course it wasn't easy, you know.
- 24:12Speaker 14: The awful part was I got caught one day. It
- 24:15Speaker 14: was kind of a relief in a way. I mean,
- 24:17Speaker 14: how could they know I was just as smart as
- 24:19Speaker 14: they were?
- 24:20Speaker 8: They didn't find out what I was doing.
- 24:22Speaker 4: Did you stay on a college after that, Miss Sterling?
- 24:24Speaker 8: Oh no, I couldn't.
- 24:25Speaker 14: After that, they voted me out of the sorority.
- 24:28Speaker 8: There wasn't anything to do but leave, so I left.
- 24:29Speaker 4: Uh huh? What happened after that?
- 24:31Speaker 14: I went to New York and stayed with an at
- 24:33Speaker 14: I have there. I got a job, had several jobs.
- 24:36Speaker 14: The same thing came up again. I lost two of
- 24:39Speaker 14: the jobs, same thing over again. I just couldn't help.
- 24:42Speaker 14: It always mean so much to me, taking things, not
- 24:47Speaker 14: being caught, getting away, getting away things I took.
- 24:52Speaker 8: They aintver meant anything to me. Nothing just taking.
- 24:57Speaker 14: Them, not having anyone knowing, That's all.
- 25:00Speaker 8: It was important. It made up for that feeling being
- 25:04Speaker 8: all alone.
- 25:05Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am. And this thing went on I mean even
- 25:07Speaker 4: after you were married.
- 25:08Speaker 8: No, not at first. I guess maybe a year or two.
- 25:13Speaker 8: We were very happy Bruce and I and.
- 25:15Speaker 14: Then he got busy, came out here and began to
- 25:17Speaker 14: build his practice. I didn't see as much of him.
- 25:22Speaker 14: We both wanted children, we wanted them very much. There
- 25:25Speaker 14: weren't any. Bruce began to spend more time away from home,
- 25:30Speaker 14: just like before.
- 25:31Speaker 8: Same thing. I wasn't important. I was all alone again.
- 25:38Speaker 8: Wasn't anybody You know what I mean? Don't you search it?
- 25:42Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
- 25:43Speaker 8: There ought to be an answer to someplace. There isn't
- 25:46Speaker 8: anything worse than being alone, was there?
- 25:51Speaker 4: I guess interrogation room Friday, Yeah I did. He is
- 25:59Speaker 4: on his way now, Yeah right, yeah, thank you. Doctor
- 26:04Speaker 4: Sterling just called said he was on his way in.
- 26:06Speaker 4: He ought to be here in a couple of minutes.
- 26:07Speaker 8: I don't want to see Bruce.
- 26:09Speaker 9: He's so good. I would know how to tell him.
- 26:12Speaker 4: No worry, ma'am, it'll be all right.
- 26:14Speaker 14: No, I'm alone, he's alone. It'll never be all right anymore.
- 26:21Speaker 4: Well, he's always winging now and he wants to see you.
- 26:23Speaker 8: I tell him, what's it going to be like? What's
- 26:28Speaker 8: going to happen after this.
- 26:30Speaker 4: I don't know, ma'am, but you won't be alone anymore.
- 26:40Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names
- 26:43Speaker 2: were changed to protect the innocent.
- 26:45Speaker 3: On December ninth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
- 26:48Speaker 3: eighty eighth, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
- 26:51Speaker 3: In a moment the results of that trial, Missus Virginia
- 27:03Speaker 3: Sterling was tried and convicted on several counts of grand
- 27:06Speaker 3: theft and received the sentence as prescribed by law. The
- 27:09Speaker 3: terms to run concurrently, Grand theft is punishable by imprisonment
- 27:13Speaker 3: for not less than one or more than ten years.
- 27:25Speaker 3: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases
- 27:28Speaker 3: from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of
- 27:32Speaker 3: Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.
- 27:51Speaker 10: Stay tuned for a Counterspy next on NBC.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This episode contains one of the more interesting
- 28:08Speaker 1: changes in adapting a story from radio to television, because
- 28:15Speaker 1: the television version of Joe Friday comes off as a
- 28:19Speaker 1: lot more compassionate. The way the closing line is delivered
- 28:24Speaker 1: comes as a bit of a zinger, and we like that.
- 28:28Speaker 1: When they're dealing with hardened criminals or people who've committed
- 28:33Speaker 1: horrible crimes or who have done really bad things. This
- 28:38Speaker 1: lady confessed to shoplifting due to a life time of
- 28:43Speaker 1: loneliness and insecurity, and in part as a result of
- 28:48Speaker 1: the pain of infertility and sadness in her marriage. As
- 28:53Speaker 1: a result, the big Zinger lands flat and commits across
- 28:57Speaker 1: as a bit mean and uncalled for. The TV version
- 29:00Speaker 1: ends with her saying that there had to be an answer,
- 29:04Speaker 1: and Friday looking on empathetically as she's going through this
- 29:08Speaker 1: whole statement and then saying, there is, but you won't
- 29:12Speaker 1: find it in jail. And this acknowledges the fact that
- 29:15Speaker 1: she made mistakes that will cost her her freedom for
- 29:19Speaker 1: the time, but treats it as the sad case it is,
- 29:23Speaker 1: and it's an example where the choice on television is
- 29:26Speaker 1: a definite improvement. I sympathize with the salesgirl who had
- 29:31Speaker 1: to quit. I feel that if an objective outsider looked
- 29:37Speaker 1: at the store's actions and her engagement with her on shoplifting,
- 29:42Speaker 1: they'd find it was not as friendly as the manager
- 29:46Speaker 1: told Friday. In Romero was definitely a victim of circumstance.
- 29:52Speaker 1: She was transferred to another department, not because anyone had
- 29:57Speaker 1: seen her doing anything, but just because because there were
- 30:00Speaker 1: thefts in her department. And worse than that, they transferred
- 30:05Speaker 1: her to a department where it would have been easy
- 30:09Speaker 1: for anybody to walk off with something. So if she
- 30:13Speaker 1: had been a thief, if you were creating opportunity for
- 30:17Speaker 1: more thiever, how exactly did they think that was going
- 30:20Speaker 1: to work. If you think that there are thefts in
- 30:24Speaker 1: a department, you have a store detective observe, you use
- 30:30Speaker 1: surveillance tactics, you don't let the person know what's going on.
- 30:35Speaker 1: You don't move them around to other departments, particularly where
- 30:40Speaker 1: it's far harder to prevent thefts. I mean, all they
- 30:44Speaker 1: did was alienate a long time employee for no good reason. Well,
- 30:49Speaker 1: listener comments and feedback now, and we have some comments
- 30:53Speaker 1: on the Big One Ad and Harrison riots Mane. Harrison
- 31:00Speaker 1: certainly had a dark origin story, a reference to some
- 31:04Speaker 1: of those future famous names showing up and on an
- 31:08Speaker 1: old time radio program, Mechanic sixty six says, good one.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I'm watching Perry Mason for the third time, and it's
- 31:16Speaker 1: a new experience after listening to this podcast. So many
- 31:20Speaker 1: of the people I've heard are on there, and I
- 31:23Speaker 1: can put a face to them, starting with Larry Thor
- 31:26Speaker 1: in the first episode with a couple of lines as
- 31:29Speaker 1: the police surgeon, to two episodes so far with Stacy Harris,
- 31:33Speaker 1: Virginia Gregg, John Stevenson, Jeannette Nolan, Peter Leeds who I
- 31:39Speaker 1: think also played some animal sounds, John Dayner, and so
- 31:44Speaker 1: many more. Well, Perry Mason is a remarkable series for
- 31:49Speaker 1: the number of old time radio actors who appeared in there.
- 31:54Speaker 1: There was a website it's no longer active, but thankful
- 32:01Speaker 1: archive by the wayback machine through Internet archive called Digital Deli,
- 32:08Speaker 1: and that site had profiles of old time radio actors
- 32:13Speaker 1: and so many of the actor's pictures that they featured
- 32:19Speaker 1: were screenshots from old episodes of Perry Mason. Now, certainly
- 32:23Speaker 1: there are other series that old time radio actors appeared in,
- 32:27Speaker 1: but that seemed to be a bit of a clearing house.
- 32:31Speaker 1: Now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day,
- 32:35Speaker 1: and I want to go ahead and think Diane, Patreon
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- 33:13Speaker 10: One of our craft got out there from Santa Monica
- 33:16Speaker 10: Harbor not more than forty minutes after she went down.
- 33:19Speaker 15: How'd you find out about it?
- 33:21Speaker 10: Pong call from somebody living along the beach. Potato stood
- 33:26Speaker 10: out there blowing the whistle and fog going woke him up.
- 33:30Speaker 10: By the time he got out of bed, he said,
- 33:33Speaker 10: it looked like a regular fireworks display about a half
- 33:36Speaker 10: mile off shore.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Huh, you see.
- 33:38Speaker 10: Where they put a marker?
- 33:39Speaker 15: Boy, have wouldn't the wind and current move that slick
- 33:44Speaker 15: and whatever wreckage?
- 33:45Speaker 4: There is no wind.
- 33:47Speaker 10: That's why there's still some fog out there, and they're
- 33:49Speaker 10: allowing for drift. Don't worry. If there's anything left to
- 33:53Speaker 10: the data, those boys will find it. Now. Excuse me,
- 33:56Speaker 10: what do you please? I gotta keep a check on operations.
- 33:59Speaker 15: Yeah, sure, Kevin see Henley, you say, mister and missus Marler. Okay, Well,
- 34:04Speaker 15: if the Coast Guarden Santa Monica through them, they're probably
- 34:07Speaker 15: back at the home in Westwood. I think i'd like
- 34:10Speaker 15: to talk to them.
- 34:11Speaker 4: By all means.
- 34:12Speaker 15: Oh, I don't exactly see any particular reason to investigating
- 34:15Speaker 15: the company policy.
- 34:16Speaker 10: Mister Dollar on any claim over one hundred thicks.
- 34:18Speaker 15: Yeah, but the claim can't have been made yet.
- 34:20Speaker 10: I don't worry. It will be win a.
- 34:22Speaker 15: Minute one hundred and fifty thousand dollars yacht. But you
- 34:26Speaker 15: said the claim could go as high as a quarter million. Yeah,
- 34:29Speaker 15: that's because of missus Merrill's jewelry, which you always took
- 34:31Speaker 15: with it always had lost too.
- 34:33Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 34:34Speaker 4: I haven't yet talked to her. Then let's do it.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime,
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