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Front Office Unfiltered w/Jim Bowden: Trade talk, Kyle Tucker fits, Skubal situation + LA Wish List · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It is time now for Front Office Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: You can, of course check out Jim Boden's work MLB
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  Speaker 2: analyst and insider on CBS Sports. He works for the
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  Speaker 2: Athletic MLB Network Radio Sirius XM. He's our Foul Territory contributor.
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  Speaker 2: The man has many, many jobs. Incredibly talented.
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  Speaker 1: Jim. Good to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: You wrote on Friday at the GM meetings that the
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  Speaker 2: future of Skiens and Schooble Orioles are getting calls for
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  Speaker 2: Rushman and more. Let's talk about Skeens and Schooble for
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  Speaker 2: a moment. Do the Tigers have a chance in heck
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  Speaker 2: Jim of signing Scooble to a long term deal?
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  Speaker 3: ALTA, that's a Chris Ilich question, right, It's not a
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  Speaker 3: Scott Harris question. It's not a Seth Greenberg question. It's
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  Speaker 3: Chris Ilich. Look, I think we pretty much know where
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  Speaker 3: this thing has to land.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yoshinoba Yamamoto makes three hundred and twenty five million, and
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  Speaker 3: were talking about Scooba, who's won back to back cy
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  Speaker 3: Young Awards, and he's twenty eight years old, and he's
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  Speaker 3: got the competitiveness, the makeup, he's a great teammate, He's
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  Speaker 3: the full package. He and Paul's games are the two
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  Speaker 3: best pitchers in the sport period. So you know how
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  Speaker 3: badly does Chrisilicic won him. I mean, I think you
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  Speaker 3: know the next offer they need to make has to
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  Speaker 3: start at three hundred and fifty million. You have to
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  Speaker 3: come out right away and show Scott Boris that you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna respect him and you're gonna make him the highest
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  Speaker 3: paid pitcher in Major league history. That's where the offer starts.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have to see where Scott goes with that.
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  Speaker 3: Does he counter at five hundreds? He countered at four fifty.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you can get him done between three
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  Speaker 3: point fifty and four hundred, I think Scott Harris is
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  Speaker 3: gonna tell Chris Hillis, let's do it. It's hard to
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  Speaker 3: get an ace. He's got everything we want in a
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  Speaker 3: superstar player. And then it's up to Chris. And if
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  Speaker 3: Chris sits there and tells Scott Harris, I'm not paying
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  Speaker 3: four hundred million for a singular player. I just don't
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  Speaker 3: think it makes sense. I'm not going to approve doing that,
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  Speaker 3: then Scott Harris, to me, has no choice but to
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  Speaker 3: trade the player. Because I'm not going to to the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline and get two months rental return on him.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm certainly not gonna do what the Angels did
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  Speaker 3: with Otani and let him get the free agency and
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  Speaker 3: get draft pick compensation. No. So look, this is really
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  Speaker 3: a Chris Ilich question more than anything else. I do
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  Speaker 3: think s Google would stay there if he was made
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  Speaker 3: that type of offer, And I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: fascinating to see how it plays out.
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  Speaker 5: Jim the Tigers when Mike Gilich was alive, We're not
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  Speaker 5: afraid to go out and spend the money. Why is
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  Speaker 5: the son not acting the same? Why is Chris Ilitch
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  Speaker 5: not doing the same. Is it because he doesn't love
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  Speaker 5: baseball as much? Is it because because I know he
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  Speaker 5: was in Seattle for Game five? He flew out there,
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  Speaker 5: he was on the field. So does he not love
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  Speaker 5: baseball the way? Does he not desire a championship the
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  Speaker 5: way his dad did? Because to me, that was one
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  Speaker 5: of the great things about Detroit is once Mike Gilich said, wait,
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  Speaker 5: we're turning it on. I mean they went field or
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  Speaker 5: they signed MIGGI Now that Meiggie deal at the end
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  Speaker 5: was bad, but they made some moves to get guys
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  Speaker 5: there and to try to be a competitive team.
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  Speaker 4: They're competitive.
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  Speaker 5: They're on the brink of being able to possibly win
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  Speaker 5: a series that they haven't done in forty plus years.
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  Speaker 4: Why is he not doing what his dad did?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I guess we should ask
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  Speaker 3: the same thing about how Steinbrenner. How come he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: act like George does?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: But he does? He does.
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  Speaker 5: He does it more though he's closer to his dad
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  Speaker 5: than's George than the ill are he'll still spend I
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  Speaker 5: mean he may, he'll spend the money.
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  Speaker 3: He will, but he's more reserved than his dad. His
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  Speaker 3: dad would go get Tucker and Bashett right now, Like,
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  Speaker 3: come on, that's what George.
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  Speaker 4: They probably would. They probably be the favorites for the
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  Speaker 4: World Series.
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  Speaker 3: Jim, Yep, they're absolutely right. And so the answer to
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  Speaker 3: your question is a lot of times the sons want
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  Speaker 3: to be more responsible than their dads because their dads
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  Speaker 3: didn't look at it from a business perspective. Their dad's
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  Speaker 3: looked at it. I want to win. This was a
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  Speaker 3: hobby for them. They loved it. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: George made his money in the ship building, and Mike
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  Speaker 3: made his with a little Caesar Pizza and the other
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  Speaker 3: things that he was involved in. And the Suns come along,
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  Speaker 3: the next generation who inherited a lot of the resources,
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  Speaker 3: and they tend to know not be their dads, and
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be more responsible. I think Scooble is that
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  Speaker 3: exception though. And look, if you can afford Miguel Cabrera
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  Speaker 3: in his prime like they did, then you certainly can
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  Speaker 3: afford Schooble in the prime. I mean, look at their roster,
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  Speaker 3: aj Eric and Alana for a minute. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of payroll flexibility there. They're not loaded with stars. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: Riley Green is gonna make a lot of money at
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  Speaker 3: some point, but look, your next best player is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be Kevin McGonagall, who's gonna be Rookie of the Year
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, and you're not gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: pay him for three years. So to pay Schooble forty
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  Speaker 3: million a year for ten years, the budget has to
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  Speaker 3: scream I can afford it. So you know we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: find out. I think we're gonna find out without a doubt.
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  Speaker 3: But Chris, as you pointed out, yep, not his dad.
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  Speaker 3: He operates differently and so I think this is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be the biggest decision that Chris Ilich has made since
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  Speaker 3: he took over as the control person the Detroit Tigers.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm fascinated to see how this plays out, because
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  Speaker 3: if he's not willing to do it, then again, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna see the biggest trade we've seen in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: This winner.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I want to get to.
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  Speaker 6: What's a comparable return Because people are like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 6: Juan Soto got this and all this stuff. We're talking
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  Speaker 6: about guy who single handedly took his team to the
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  Speaker 6: playoffs and made his team go as far as they
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  Speaker 6: could in the playoffs because if he could hit, he
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  Speaker 6: probably would have helped a little bit more too, because
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  Speaker 6: they didn't get any runs. He did everything possible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a great, great point, Eric, And I think when
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  Speaker 3: you look at it, there's not a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: that are gonna match and anyone that's gonna give up
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  Speaker 3: a load to get him are going to want to
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  Speaker 3: be able to sign him long term and are going
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  Speaker 3: to be willing to say, hey, I'll pay the four
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  Speaker 3: hundred million dollar bill when it comes. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of identify five teams where I think there's
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  Speaker 3: a possible fit. Let me go through him quickly for you.
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  Speaker 3: Since you asked the Dodgers, the Dodgers could offer Emmett Sheehan,
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  Speaker 3: Justin Robleski, Jackson, Ferris Zayer, Hope. Pretty good package. You
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  Speaker 3: get three young starters, you control inexpensive, you get a
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  Speaker 3: future All star outfielder. That's a pretty strong package. Now
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  Speaker 3: you want to get more creative. What about Tyler Glass
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  Speaker 3: now is part of the return. He doesn't have a
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  Speaker 3: no trade clause. That would give the Tigers at least
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  Speaker 3: the top of the rotation type starter back. Have him
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  Speaker 3: be part of the package. Oh, you can look at
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  Speaker 3: the Red Sox right. They could do a package of
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  Speaker 3: early for their rotation, Christian Campbell for the infield, Garcia
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  Speaker 3: for the outfield. You could run a package around that.
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  Speaker 3: The New York Mets could offer a package led by
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  Speaker 3: Brandon Sprout and Jonah Toong, two starters back throwing their
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  Speaker 3: Jet Williams and maybe Ronald Mauricio. That might work. Seattle
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  Speaker 3: may want to offer one of their young starters, say
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  Speaker 3: a Bryce Miller, and then maybe their best pitching prospect
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  Speaker 3: in Sloan throwing their ford, one of their top prospects
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  Speaker 3: Ad Morales. That might work. The Yankees with Spencer Jones
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  Speaker 3: and Will Warren could start a package, but that's the
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  Speaker 3: type of return that you're gonna get. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 3: get a superstar back, You're not gonna get equal value back,
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  Speaker 3: but you might get enough quantity where you can compete
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  Speaker 3: in the future if you're not gonna spend the money
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  Speaker 3: on Schooble. The best move the Tigers can make, though,
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  Speaker 3: it's really simple. It's to sign them long term and
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  Speaker 3: try to get it done. But if you can't, don't
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  Speaker 3: get stuck with draft pick compensation like the Angels did,
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  Speaker 3: because that will set you back years.
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  Speaker 6: You said, not many match up, but I mean we're
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  Speaker 6: not talking. You don't have to sign this. You don't
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  Speaker 6: have to sign them to an extension. And if you
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  Speaker 6: trade here, like you're giving up a lot. I get that,
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  Speaker 6: but you're getting a guy, like I said, what he
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  Speaker 6: can do, but you're also getting the draft pick compensation
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  Speaker 6: at the end of the season if he gets traded now.
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  Speaker 6: So why do other teams not match up because they
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  Speaker 6: don't have enough or they don't have enough big league
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  Speaker 6: ready where they're like, okay, well we get this guy,
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  Speaker 6: and we can still the Tigers can still make it
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  Speaker 6: to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of teams don't have the young starter
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  Speaker 3: that you definitely have to have back if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to trade Schoogle. They a lot of teams don't have
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  Speaker 3: those guys that are on the doorstep to get to
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  Speaker 3: the big leagues. So, you know, when I looked at it,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm writing an article on this on The Athletic
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  Speaker 3: that'll be published later this week, you know, I looked
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  Speaker 3: at all twenty nine teams and kind of put together,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm the Tigers, what would make sense and where
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  Speaker 3: the fits would be and where they wouldn't be. And
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  Speaker 3: I just found those were the teams that matched up.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I have to start with I need young
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  Speaker 3: pitching back, or I have to have a rotation guy
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  Speaker 3: ready back along with a very strong package. And those
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  Speaker 3: were the five teams that I felt matched up best
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  Speaker 3: for Detroit that doesn't need other teams can't match up
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  Speaker 3: and can't make you know, competitive offers. I just kind
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  Speaker 3: of took it from the Tigers perspective.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, Tarrek Scoogle has some to say in it,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously still under control. So we'll have to see
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  Speaker 2: what happens with him in terms of the Tigers, whether
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  Speaker 2: they trade him or not. A guy that has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of say, Jim and you wrote about it and
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  Speaker 2: talked about it is Kyle Tucker. I would be very
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  Speaker 2: hard pressed to say he goes back to the Cubs.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think is the market for Kyle Tucker?
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  Speaker 2: And who would realistically is a good fit for him?
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, I found this kind of fascinating
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  Speaker 3: talking to so many different front office executives about what
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  Speaker 3: is the value at Tucker? What do you think he's
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  Speaker 3: going to get? You know, I had some guys say
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  Speaker 3: between four hundred and five hundred. I had some guys
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  Speaker 3: say between three hundred and three and fifty. I had
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  Speaker 3: some guys say high AAV but shorter term to let
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  Speaker 3: him go back on the market. It's interesting because it's
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  Speaker 3: a widespread and I don't know what Kyle, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what he's going to prioritize. Is it going to be
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  Speaker 3: the most years and the most money, or is he
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  Speaker 3: going to be flexible and taking high AAV and going
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  Speaker 3: back in the market and you know, four or five years,
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  Speaker 3: or having a bunch of opt out clauses. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how he's going to play this out.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be very interesting. But in
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  Speaker 3: terms of teams, where he fits, I mean he fits
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  Speaker 3: the Blue Jays put him in right field. You know
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  Speaker 3: he fits exactly what they like. Thirty homers, thirty steels
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  Speaker 3: plus defense plus runner plus arm. Doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 3: the face of the franchise. That's Vladimir Guerrero Junior. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a really good fit, and I hear that
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  Speaker 3: they're really interested in him. I think he fits with
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees. If I'm Brian Cashman, I want everything to
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  Speaker 3: do with him. I want him over Bellinger, I want
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  Speaker 3: him over Grisham. I want to have him in Judge together,
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  Speaker 3: in that lineup. And again, doesn't have to be the
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  Speaker 3: face of the franchise because Aaron Judge does that. If
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  Speaker 3: I'm the Dodgers, I can't watch t O in right
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  Speaker 3: field anymore. It makes me sick every time the ball
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  Speaker 3: sit up there. I love his power and I love
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  Speaker 3: the personality, but can we just go hide him in
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  Speaker 3: left field and let's put Tucker in right field, the
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  Speaker 3: PAHs and center. I feel a lot better the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: They got eighty million coming off the books. Why can't
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  Speaker 3: I invest in Kyle Tucker? Complete player? Quiet will fit
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  Speaker 3: in nicely. Doesn't have to be the face of the
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  Speaker 3: franchise because Otani and Betts and Freeman are that you
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  Speaker 3: know other teams says he fit yeah, Mets in right field,
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  Speaker 3: but Sodo dh, I'd feel better about my team defensively,
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  Speaker 3: that's not going to happen. The Phillies would be a
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  Speaker 3: great fit in right field instead of Costianos, but Dave
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  Speaker 3: Dombrowski's focusing on Schwarber and Ranger Suarez first. But I
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  Speaker 3: like the fit in Philly, and I love the fit
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  Speaker 3: in San Francisco. But Buster Posey goes, no, no, no, I'm
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  Speaker 3: spending all my money on pitching, pitching and pitching. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not getting another bat, So that's what he's going to do.
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  Speaker 3: So I think at the end of the day, Blue Jay's,
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  Speaker 3: Yankees Dodgers are the best fits. And I think if
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  Speaker 3: you had to pick a favorite right now, it's probably Toronto.
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  Speaker 6: Can you walk us through the closer market, because it's deep.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot on the free agency market. Do you
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  Speaker 6: see one? Do you see any of the teams that
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  Speaker 6: are in for a closer currently have a closer and say,
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  Speaker 6: you know what, we can double down? Or is it
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  Speaker 6: a case where it's like, hey, because this team X
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  Speaker 6: has this closer already, they're not going to be in
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  Speaker 6: on this high end. When I say high end, Robert Suarez,
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  Speaker 6: Devin Williams and Edwin Diaz and then obviously you know
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  Speaker 6: you have Pete Fairbanks and you have the next level.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, I think if you already have a closure,
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  Speaker 3: you go get another one, right. I mean, that's that's
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  Speaker 3: what I want. I want as many as I can
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  Speaker 3: to shorten up that game. You know, if I'm the
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  Speaker 3: Padres last year, I loved having Mason Miller and swore
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  Speaker 3: as late late in the games. I felt really good
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  Speaker 3: about my chances if I had a lead late. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you're the New York Yankees, I know David Bennar
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  Speaker 3: was great for them. Let's go at Edwin Diaz to that.
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  Speaker 3: You know he could pitch in New York. You know
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  Speaker 3: he can handle it. I absolutely want that to close.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm the Yankees. If I'm the Dodgers and I'm
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  Speaker 3: Dave Roberts, I'm so sick and tired of having to
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  Speaker 3: mix and match and look Sasaki they want him to start.
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  Speaker 3: So if he's gonna start, who's gonna close. It's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna be Blake Trinin. I know they went through a
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  Speaker 3: lot of injuries. And they tried Tanner Scott. Sorry it
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  Speaker 3: didn't work. It should have it didn't. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: But if I'm them, I want Diez or Suarez or
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  Speaker 3: Devin Williams or Fairbanks or Iglesias. So I think both
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  Speaker 3: of those teams. The Cubs and Twins have both told
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  Speaker 3: me their priority this entire offseason is to rebuild their
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  Speaker 3: bullpens because they don't have anybody. Pelatios is the only
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  Speaker 3: one back with the Cubs. The Twins traded their entire
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  Speaker 3: bullpen at the deadline, so they're gonna be playing. The
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  Speaker 3: Tigers are gonna be playing. The Braves have to play
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  Speaker 3: after losing Iglesias. Michaelias says, the Oriels are gonna play.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Casen says they're gonna play, The Giants are gonna play,
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  Speaker 3: the Rangers are gonna play, and the Reds are gonna play.
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  Speaker 3: They're all after that, and there's not enough to go around.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I think the closers market, I think
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna get paid.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not saying they're gonna get the
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  Speaker 3: Josh Hayter deal, but I think Diaz wants it. I
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  Speaker 3: think he wants that fifth year, and I think he
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  Speaker 3: wants to beat hater, and I don't know, maybe someone's
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  Speaker 3: gonna pay it. I don't know. And I was guessing
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  Speaker 3: more like four years eighty eight million for Diez and
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  Speaker 3: four and eighty for Suarez. But you know what, I
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  Speaker 3: always try to overshoot and I end up undershooting. I
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  Speaker 3: thought Naylor would get ninety million. He's gonna get close
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  Speaker 3: to one hundred million, So you know, you know how
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  Speaker 3: these things work. But yeah, it's a fun closers market,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, closers.
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  Speaker 5: One thing that doesn't need a closer is the Boston
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  Speaker 5: Red Sox with what a role as Chapman did. What
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  Speaker 5: do you see them doing? Are they gonna get Bregman back?
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Are they gonna go for another starter? Are they gonna
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: find a bat? Is Pete Alonso maybe in the lick
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: mix for Boston? What do you see Boston doing? Because
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: they were close, but they still have some big holes.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I can only tell you exactly what Craig
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Reslo says. Number one goal is to get a number
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: two starter, and the second goal is to get a
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: right handed hitting corner infielder and then add some bullpen depth.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: So you know that's what he's telling other gms, So
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent believe that that's what they're gonna do. Now,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: what does that mean? I think, could they play for
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: schoobl Sure, they've got enough to get it done. Could
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: they play for Freddie Peroult if he's traded, Sure, again,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: they have enough to get that done. Or do you
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: just go to free agency and try to get Dylan
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Ceese or fran Beervaldez or one of those top end starters.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: They certainly have the income and the revenue and the
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: payroll flexibility to do that. And then in terms of
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: the corner infielder, you know, if I were them, and
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: this is not coming from them, it's just me, I
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: would want Bob Baschette to play third base. That's my
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: first goal. I love the bat, I love the hitter,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I like the kid. I like him at third base
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: or second base. You could put him at second and
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Marcelo Meyer at third base, with Story at shortstop. And
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: in terms of first base, you know, I think Pete A.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Lonzo would be phenomenal there. I know he doesn't fit
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: what they want because they want to improve defense. Run
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: prevention very important to Creig Breslo, But imagine Alonzo because
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: he plays every day, one hundred and sixty two games
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: each of the last two years, one hundred and fifty
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: two games of war five years in a row, averages
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: thirty five home runs a year. Great clubhouse guy, can
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: handle the big market. Can you imagine how many dense
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: he'd put in the Green Monster. They probably have to
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: replace the Green Monster by the end of the year.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And what would he do to Roman Anthony? What would
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: he do for a break, what would he do for
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: the middle of that lineup? Take all the pressure off.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I think it would be a great fit for them.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I know they don't love him defensively, but look, even
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: when he ends up being a DH in three or
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: four years, you're gonna have the D eight spot open.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: So I think that makes a lot of sense. And
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: if not, you know, bring Bregman back. So, whether it's Bashett,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Alonso or bregnant I love any one of those three
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: choices for them, But they're going to get that number
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: two starter. That's the one thing I'm totally convinced of.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: From Boston to San Diego, Jim, let me ask you this.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: We have a fan asking this question. Owl of Minerva
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: wants to ask you what's going on in San Diego.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: They think that they're going to blow up the team. Obviously,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: it has been said that the team is looking for
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: new ownership. Perhaps, what do you think happens there? What
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: does AJ Prelo need to focus on.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not blowing the team up right now. They're
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: not going to blow it up for twenty six. They're
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: going to run back as much as they can, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: AJ Preller is going to spend the winner trying to
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: get enough starting pitching that's affordable that can allow them to,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you know, be in the playoff hunt, make it as
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: a wild card and see if they can't run the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: table in October. So they're not trading tatisse. I saw
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a roomer out there somewhere. That's not happening. They're not trading. Oh,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: they can't trade boguards because no one's gonna ever take
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: that contract. So you know this is going to be
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: the team. I think they'd like to get one more bat,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: but they need at least two starting pitchers and they
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of money to spend to get
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: those pictures. So AJ's got to be creative. This farm
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: system isn't what it once was, so he doesn't have
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the trade assets that he used to have to make
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of the trades that he's made. But you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I trust Aj. He's a wheeler, a dealer. He never sleeps.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: He'll outwork everybody. Literally, I think he gets three hours
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: sleep a night. So I think you'll figure out a way.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: But the Padres are not going to blow it up.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: They're going to go back and win. And yes, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: think the team at some point is going to be
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: sold and hopefully someone will come in with enough financial
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: wherewithal to handle all of the financial exposure. They're going
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: to inherit on the books and hopefully treat it as
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: a hobby and be able to spend more money.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: You're in Preller's position, exact position they've just explained. You
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: need a starter. Do you go to Mason Miller and say,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: do you want to be our starter? Because we have
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Jeremiah Strada already that could be a closer. Whether they
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: think that or not, I don't know. But do you,
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: as a GM make a suggestion or do you need
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Mason Miller to come to me and say I'd like
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: to be a starter, knowing how much value that is
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: for him as a start to be a starter well.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: As a former gm AN evaluator. I'll tell you Mason
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Miller would be a starting pitcher if I had to
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: say to it. I remember talking to Mason Miller during
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: the All Star Game, not this year, the year before
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: in Texas, and I asked him about starting, and he
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: basically said that he wanted to close. He doesn't want
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: to start. He said, I tried that it didn't work,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, but you didn't really give it
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: enough time. You have the stuff. There's no doubt in
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: my mind, you can develop into an ACE, a number
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: one starter. I do believe that. So I think if
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I had Mason Miller and I was AJ Preller and
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Craig Stammon, I would be doing everything possible to try
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: to convince him to start and develop, because I do
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: believe that he could become that ACE, and that's what
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I would try to do. But you have to keep
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: in mind that the pitcher doesn't want to do it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of times it won't work.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: We interviewed Craig Stammon the other day on MLB Network
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Radio and it sounds like that he's gonna be his
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: high leverage laden and guy, and it doesn't sound like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: starting it's going to be something they're going to consider.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: But I'm with you one hundred percent, Eric, I would
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: start him if it were up to me. I love
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: this stuff.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: One thing you had on your column was about Adlei Rutchman.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: What the Orioles think about trading him for real? And
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: is it because Basiya was there and they signed him
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: to the long term deal and they're going to pick
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: the guy who they know has already signed because this
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: would be a large shift for the Orioles to make
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: a move like this.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna get moved. I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the reason they're fielding so many calls is there's a
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: surprising number of teams that are chasing catchers right now.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Usually don't see this kind of demand, and so those
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: teams that need a catcher, they make the call of
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Baltimore because everyone saw the contract that Basio got and
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: they all also understand the Oriols are not going to
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: be able to extend Rechmond long term and he's going
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: to get to eventually get the free agency. So you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: by kicking the tires and calling and trying to get
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: him now I think makes a lot of sense. I
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: don't think Retchman has even touched what he's capable of doing.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I've said it before, I'll say it again. I think
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: he has a chance to be an MVP caliber player
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: in time. I don't think he's been developed right, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's still going to get there. And I
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of GMS that I think the
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: same way. But I think Michael Ayas job probably on
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: the line this year, and I would tend to think
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: the only way he would trade him is if he
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: got so much pitching back in a trade that he
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: felt like he had to do it. I think more
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: likely he holds on to his position players and then
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: just puts all his time and effort into starting pitching
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and relief help. And I think he's going to commit
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: at least one long term, expensive free agent starter this offseason.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I think he learned his lesson last year, as David
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Stearns did in New York. You can try it out
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: smart people by these short term, high risk starters, it
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: normally is not gonna work out. So I think it's
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: focused is going to be on that. But I don't
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: blame teams for calling him on Retchman, I would too.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Dodgers seek to become the first team
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: since the nineteen ninety eight to two thousand New York
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yankees to win three consecutive titles. Are they gonna do it?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Aj?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And if so?
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: How?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I don't think they are? Don't. I don't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: How do they do it? I mean, they just continue
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: to build on the roster they have. Do I think
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: they will. I think they won't. I think their starting
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: pitching is going to be beat up. They got to
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: find some bullpen. Hell, they're a year older on the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: position player side. Sorry Ilana, but I don't think they're
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: gonna win three in a row. They maybe should have
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: won two in a row. The Blue Jays kind of
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: had them made some critical errors which the Dodgers don't do.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: But I think with another year, another long postseason run,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: I think they're not going to be They'll make the playoffs,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: of course, but I think somebody will figure out a
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: way to take them out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I understand that's fair. I mean, listen, I'll take back
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to back. I don't expect a three pet It's difficult
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to do in any sport, certainly in baseball. You guys
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: know that, Eric, if you are the Dodgers, it seems
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like LA is the destination for Japanese top pitching prospects.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Do you go after the two prospects in terms of
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I guess I have to learn some new names, right
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Munataka Murakami and is it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Am I email? How am i? Okay?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Do you go after either of those two guys to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: join Shohei Otani and Roki Sasaki and Yoshinobu Yamamoto am I?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, am I.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: I would go after him because of the fact that
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: you can always use pitching.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Clearly they showed that this year. Clearly everybody was like.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: How can you have nine or ten quality starters to
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: start the year? Like you see how you can do it? So, yes,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I see them going after am I, and I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: that's probably their easier get if you're saying one of
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: the two, because Munataki more COMI kind of plays the
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: positions they've already had. Whether you believe like aj like
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: that they're getting older. You don't need a you don't
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: need somebody to be to replace Max Montcy at third base.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Yet he's you know, he's gonna coming up on one
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: more year deal. He'll probably sign some kind of extension
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: like he keeps doing. Obviously, Freddy has not lost a
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: beat as opposed to what Dombrowski said. But you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: I think they're they're locked in and you can't bring
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: in a dh because of what Showhy does. So more
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: kami no, but am I I mean worst worst comes
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: to worse, like the guy slides to the bullpen. You
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: need six starters, So essentially you probably need about eight
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: to nine starters to start the season because very few
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: of them. I mean, I was super impressed a Yamamoto
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: got to thirty starts. You might they might want to
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: back that down a little bit, so you need more guys.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: And I have a hard time believing that his teammates
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: on Team Samurai would not be would not at least
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: give a ringing vote of confidence to the Dodgers.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, Yoshiobu Yamamoto just adopted a dog out
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: of an LA shelter by the name of Carlos. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: not only is he the greatest picture on the face
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of the planet ever, to live. He also adopts his pets,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: but that's neither here nor there. Aj Pierzinski, let me
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: ask you this baby. And Ardaya, who writes for the Athletics,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: said that Devin Williams was emerging as a Dodgers leverage
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: reliever target. We just talked to Jim Bowden about it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: In terms of the closer market. Do you think Devin
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Williams makes sense in LA?
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: It makes sense everywhere, especially as a bounce back candidate.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: I think he was better towards the end of the year.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I think the Dodgers figure stuff out that a lot
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: of other teams haven't figured out. I think he would
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: be a great guy, you know, if he'd be your closer.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: They're hoping Tanner Scott comes back from his butt surgery,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: like trying to bounces back after a down year, you know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: And they have a lot of options down there.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: So do I think he'd be a great fit.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's about fifteen other teams too be a great
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: fit for So it's nice to be a reliever in
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: this market. And yeah, I think you fit in l
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: A and and a lot of places.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Is the closer market this year?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Aj and Eric the shortstop market two years ago seems
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like there's a lot of good closers, but there was
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of really good shortstops.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. We were kind of wondering
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: who was going to go first? At what price and where?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Is it kind of similar to that anybody?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, No, I think I think you're right.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: I think it's who's going to go where and who's
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: going to be the first dominant of fall.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: That's the thing.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: And then once it once a team like LA reaches
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: their the guy their guy then and then the next
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: guy going the next team will go in the next team.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess the top guy would be Edwin Diaz.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Right where does Edwin Diaz go? Does he go back
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: to the Mets? He's going to kind of set the market,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: and then once he's off the board, it's going to
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: be like pew.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Pew pee pee pee pee pee pee pee.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Pew, because then there's going to be a run because
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: then whoever think, whoever you think the next guy is
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: is going to say, well, if Edwin Diaz got this,
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: and then the teams will come to him. Right, So
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: it starts off with if you think Diez is the
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: top guy, then the next guy, the next guy, the
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: next guy, and teams, and then as they start getting
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: more and more in their price range, teams are gonna
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: start picking these guys off pretty quick.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a big that was a big shortstop market.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I was trying to think who all was on that market.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was your story, Korea.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Da Xander. I get it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: But here's the thing with the closer market. I'm not
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: saying this is gonna happen, but people were up in
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: arms about it last year when the Dodgers just kept
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: getting every good closer or every good bullpen piece that
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: was out there, Like, teams have to move. You can't like,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: this isn't musical chairs and say, oh well, I'm out, Like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: if you need a closer to me, you gotta move.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: They're out there. You have three, you have three high
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: end elite choices. Yes, Devin Williams had a bad year
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: this year, But to me, I think it's it's very
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: simple to just look at his usage and how it
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: compared to what he was doing, and what counts with
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: the Brewers compared to what he was doing and what.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Counts with the Yankee.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: So I think he's up there with the other two guys,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: and I just think you have to move. You have
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: to move, don't. I don't think it's quite as deep,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: but there is a It's easily the deepest position this
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: offseason by far.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the carousel of closers in Los Angeles is a
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: pain in the ass. No pun intended with what Tanner
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Scott's going through. Kile af both of you guys. This
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: next question though, Dalton Rushing is now the backup catcher
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to Will Smith and Los Angeles. Ben Rtvett was claimed
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: off of waivers by Cincinnati. Are you okay with Rushing
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: as the backup to Will Smith?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: AJ?
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did it this year. He proved it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: That's what they think he's going to be, apparently, because
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: otherwise they, you know, try to trade him and move him.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's they still will But the bigger question is Rortvett.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: He's gonna be the third catcher in Cincinnati because they
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: have Stevenson int who's signed to a deal. So where's
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: the work that fited for Cincinnati? I guess if one
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: of them gets hurt. But that was more surprising to
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: me than anything.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: What about you, Eric, I don't think he should.
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  Speaker 6: And I've said this for a while, I don't think
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Dalton Rushing should be the backup. I think he's much
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: better than the backup and then then a backup situation.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: But it's where he's at right now. The Dodgers have
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: a have one of the best, if not the top
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: three catchers in the game and Will Smith, and they yes,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: I get it, they need to give him days off
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: so he doesn't wear down at the end of the season.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: But you saw this year he wasn't wearing down at
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: the end of the season. His numbers were great. A
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: freak injury, and to me, if they had the ability
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: to upgrade with Dalton Rushing, I think it would be
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: great for him, and I think it would also be
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: great for the team to say, yes, we can go
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: get a backup catcher in some type of role and
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: we can get something, in my opinion, pretty huge, because
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: if you end up having Dalton Rushing be the backup
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: for the next two or three years, it is really
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: tough to put up numbers, and as a player you
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: can still become a starter later, but as a team,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: his value will just decrease because right now he's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: dude that was in the minor leagues, prospect a lot
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: of hype, played all the time, and you're going to
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: the big leagues and you're just not playing very much.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: So you're just not going to get the same value
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: years from now or even a year from now, if
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: he continues to amass one hundred and eighty to two
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: hundred at bats when I thought what he did in
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: the minor leagues was enough to be a starter in
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: the big leagues.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, though, Is it better to
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: be a starter on the Pittsburgh Pirates or a backup
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Depends if you want to get paid or not. Okay,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: I think if you're a starter, if you're.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: The starter, you're always going to get You're always want
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: to be the starter because you're i That's how you
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: make your money and establish a career. How there are
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: guys that are backups, but they usually don't get paid
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: the amount that the starter gets. And if you're good
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: enough to be a starter, like most people believe Dalton
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Rushing is, it'd be better to go be a starter.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: But right now the Dodgers ain't doing it, So you
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: know what he happy as a backup and try to
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: win another ring because he had some big at bats
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: and he had some big games for the Dodgers.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Totally, that's what that's what his mindset has to be.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: And it doesn't mean he doesn't want to win. If
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: he would say, if his answer would truly be no,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: I want to be the starter for the Pirates because
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: early in your career, rarely do you get a chance
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: to you know, see winning. And now he's in winning,
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: but early in your career you're also like, I want
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: to maximize what my career can absolutely be. And so
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: to me, if it were up to him, which it's not,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: I would say I want to be a starter, just
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: the same as I was talking about with Mason Miller.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: Mason Miller is a tremendous all star closer, but if
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: you want to maximize what you can do, being a
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: starter is a challenge, which players love challenges. But it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: also so much more value for him if he becomes successful,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: and no players like, well, I don't know if I'll
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: be successful or not. No, of course, you like, that's
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: what you're gonna do, so you might as well go
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: to the position that would make would make you the
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: most money. And have the best career you can have
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: because your careers are short.