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20190819- Jags Drive Time AUDIO.mp3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football mark We'd now
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Speaker 1: with a masterful run up twenty nine yards and the
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Speaker 1: cluck continues to run. Jaguars. Did you Jackuar? Jaguars? Did
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Speaker 1: you Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps John Actually, Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now. Welcome in Jack's Drive Time
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Speaker 1: Monday Morning, presented by Jet Home Loans. Getting ready for
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Speaker 1: Week three of the preseason as the Jaguars head down
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Speaker 1: to Miami on Wednesday to face the Dolphins. We're excited
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Speaker 1: because it's our first chance to see the starters in
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Speaker 1: game time action, as the fans should be excited as well.
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Speaker 1: It's a big weeks. I'm excited. I'm excited because it's
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Speaker 1: one more preseason game closer to the start of the
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Speaker 1: regular season. That's the spirit. Let's go. Yeah, we're excited.
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Speaker 1: Probably if ten excitement or about a four or five.
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Speaker 1: But it will be interesting. It's something that we've been
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Speaker 1: waiting to see. There an't you need perspective on it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how long they'll play. If they play
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Speaker 1: a quarter and a half, they're gonna get two or
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Speaker 1: three series, and I think it's important. We won't but
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Speaker 1: it's important to keep respective on what we're gonna see.
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Speaker 1: But it's still starters compared to what we've been saying, right,
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Speaker 1: And you can't help but think we've gotten so many
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Speaker 1: questions of what folds will be like in game time action.
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Speaker 1: At least you're finally going to get a little glimpse
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Speaker 1: that this week. Not even that they're not going to
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Speaker 1: do anything anything that looks like their offense in Miami
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. They have the advantage. There is no
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe hand off to a running back, maybe
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Speaker 1: throw to a tight end, but you're not going to
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Speaker 1: have a legitimate look at what this offense is like
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night against the Dolphins, because even though the
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Speaker 1: starters you're playing, they're not really playing well. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's important to remember. I got some questions, believe
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Speaker 1: it or not, Brian, I've gotten questions over the last week. Um,
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Speaker 1: is Doug Marone concerned about hiring John di Filipo. They've
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Speaker 1: only scored ten points, which if if you're not paying attention, well,
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Speaker 1: if you're not paying attention, if you if you don't
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Speaker 1: quite get it, I kind of get the offenses look bad. Um,
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Speaker 1: But even beyond the fact that the starters aren't playing.
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Speaker 1: What's important to remember even if the starters were playing,
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Speaker 1: is this week there'll be a smidge of a game plan.
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Speaker 1: And when I say smidge, I mean they might do
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Speaker 1: two or three things that they weren't doing before. In
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Speaker 1: the first two Precscon games, there's no game planning, meaning
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Speaker 1: they don't put any stock on what the opponent might
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Speaker 1: be doing. So you know, I have no idea how
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Speaker 1: the offense will be during the regular season, but nothing
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Speaker 1: about what they're doing now should reflect on how they're
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Speaker 1: going to scheme for the season. Flippers talking in about
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Speaker 1: two and a half hours. I can't wait to go
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Speaker 1: ask him if he's concerned about having taken this job
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Speaker 1: because of the way, because if it's true that the
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Speaker 1: coach should be concerned, then the reverse is true. The
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Speaker 1: other coach should be concerned because he hasn't had the
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Speaker 1: talent on there. Well, we don't have an offensive line
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Speaker 1: because I haven't had any of these guys yet. I
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Speaker 1: think it's just if you had all those things, they're
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Speaker 1: not even scheming, and it's all, especially the run game.
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Speaker 1: In this league, a lot of what you do is
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Speaker 1: how you scheme. So the first two preseason games, even
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Speaker 1: if they had played starters, wouldn't be a concerned. Whatever
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Speaker 1: they do with game plan is simply going to be planned,
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Speaker 1: meaning we're gonna run it right, we're gonna run it left,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna run it up the middle. They're not putting
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Speaker 1: their plays in, I mean, just basic schemes. It's there.
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Speaker 1: And it's funny because we had this conversation with Marone
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Speaker 1: last week and he said that we were talking about
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Speaker 1: do you play starters or you know, big picture view
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Speaker 1: of the preseasons, even when the starters are in there
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Speaker 1: not really playing right, you know, go back and look
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Speaker 1: and see the situations. It's not the same as it
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Speaker 1: once was, which goes back to my assertion. And now
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Speaker 1: we're seeing it all over the place from last week,
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Speaker 1: and that is preseason isn't the preseason anymore, and it
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Speaker 1: won't be for very long. All right, Let's get right
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Speaker 1: into big things. Big thing one is don't panic Cam Robinson,
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Speaker 1: Jawan Taylor, and Andrew normal all back practicing, which means
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Speaker 1: that offensive line is healthy. And when that offensive line
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Speaker 1: is healthy, you really shouldn't worry. Joan Taylor told us
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Speaker 1: his thoughts of what he's learned so far on that
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Speaker 1: offensive line. It's been great. You know, my first NFL account,
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Speaker 1: his dream from sure to actually be on his team
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Speaker 1: and be drafted by the Jazz and come here and
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Speaker 1: work hard every day and go against the best defense
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So if you get me better, and
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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying it. Now big thing too is cause
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Speaker 1: for concern. Two guys you maybe should panic a little
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Speaker 1: bit about not seeing right now is the tight ends
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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver and Jeff Swain both still not practicing a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a positive that Jeff Swain is no
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Speaker 1: longer in a boot walking around at practice, but Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles tells us the importance of that position. Yesterday when
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Speaker 1: Jeff and Josh are out there, you know there they
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Speaker 1: were doing a really nice job when they're healthy. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, James Um and Ben and the guys have
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Speaker 1: you know, been stepping up um and doing a great
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Speaker 1: job of you know, you know, we've got some young
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Speaker 1: guys who just got here, so they've been doing a
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Speaker 1: nice job stepping in and running the routes and getting
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Speaker 1: the blocking teams down. But you know, obviously, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: we need to get our tight ends healthy. And finally,
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Speaker 1: big thing three is the clock is taking the window
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Speaker 1: for opportunity for guys on the cusp of making this
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Speaker 1: team is getting smaller and smaller every day, especially now
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Speaker 1: that you're going to see some starters in this game.
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Speaker 1: It's really up to the fourth preseason game, and we
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Speaker 1: heard Dug Maround talking about the importance of reps in practice.
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Speaker 1: If you're not getting those reps right now in practice
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Speaker 1: this week, your window is getting smaller and smaller. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: if you're not, if you've played the first couple of games,
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Speaker 1: then you're playing to make the team. I mean there's
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Speaker 1: very few guys who have played, uh, Tavin, Bryan, Josh Down,
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Speaker 1: some of the younger guys maybe, but if you're playing
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Speaker 1: the last two weeks, you're playing to make the team.
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Speaker 1: You probably won't play a whole lot this week, and
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Speaker 1: then preseason week four becomes critically important for seven eight guys. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, you've either played yourself in a position to
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Speaker 1: make this team or you haven't. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: it's that clear. I think we could cut the roster
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Speaker 1: right now and get within three or four guys right
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Speaker 1: all right, right in that sense, So I remember in
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Speaker 1: two thousand one, Stacy Mack was an undrafted rookie running
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Speaker 1: back and he had a beautiful reverse field jump over
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Speaker 1: a defender sixties seven yard touchdown to earn the last
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Speaker 1: running back spot in the final preseason game in Dallas years.
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Speaker 1: It's the only time I've ever seen that, right, where
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Speaker 1: a guy makes a play and goes from not being
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Speaker 1: on that level of could make the team to make
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Speaker 1: the team. So you could see a little bit of that.
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Speaker 1: My my interest level for this right now is how
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Speaker 1: much time the starters actually have to get ready for
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Speaker 1: the regular season. Because you look at a guy like
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson Um and let's just for argument's sake, say
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Speaker 1: he's gonna play on opening Day. How many padded practices
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Speaker 1: does he have left to get ready for opening day?
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Speaker 1: Because remember they may practice once in full pads the
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Speaker 1: week of the game. So what does he have? Good?
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Speaker 1: Does he have today? The right one? Right? So maybe
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Speaker 1: one today, right, and then maybe one next week? I
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Speaker 1: mean maybe too. Let's let's exaggerate, so maybe he has
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Speaker 1: four fully padded practices if he's gonna play opening day.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know whether I'm always gonna play on
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Speaker 1: Thursday night in Miami or not. So the reason that
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Speaker 1: the time becomes precious for those you know, the Picasso
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Speaker 1: Nelson's of the world, right, is because the Cam Robinson
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Speaker 1: the world need this time on the practice field to
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Speaker 1: get ready to go for Opening Day. It really is
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Speaker 1: so Yes, young guys trying to make the team. That's
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Speaker 1: always been the storyline for this time of the year,
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Speaker 1: But now it's the guys coming back from injury. Do
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Speaker 1: they have enough time to get ready? If Jeff Swain
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden was ready to go today on
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Speaker 1: the practice field, does he have enough time? You know?
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Speaker 1: Do we know where he's at? Um, that's really the
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Speaker 1: time issue the way I see it. Yeah, And Doug
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Speaker 1: said yesterday he was asked about the possibility of playing
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Speaker 1: and Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver if they were to
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Speaker 1: be ready for physically for week one, um, even though
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Speaker 1: they haven't practiced. And it was interesting, Dougs you could
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Speaker 1: tell didn't love the idea, But he's also an NFL
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Speaker 1: head coach and he knows. I mean, I love the idea,
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Speaker 1: but if if, if my best most talented players are ready,
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Speaker 1: we've got to give him a shot to see if
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Speaker 1: they can do it. Even if they're not practice ready,
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Speaker 1: because there's just not as you alluded to, with only
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Speaker 1: one padded practice a week, you know it. If Cam
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Speaker 1: has only practiced three times by week one, well he's
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Speaker 1: only going to have practice four times by week two
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Speaker 1: because you only have one padded practice anyway. So this
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Speaker 1: is a league where unfortunately you don't have the number
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Speaker 1: of padded practice you get these guys ready, you gotta
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Speaker 1: throw them in and let him get ready in the game.
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Speaker 1: So Kevin Hardy came to the broadcast booth on Thursday
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Speaker 1: night and we were talking talking about the preseason and
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Speaker 1: he was he just started on his own about how
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Speaker 1: crazy it was that they hadn't seen the starters to
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Speaker 1: this point, because he said he needed the time. The
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Speaker 1: linebackers needed the time to loosen up their shoulders, to
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Speaker 1: get their bodies physically accustomed to contact. There are positioning
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Speaker 1: that's changed. I think they all still needed. It's why
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Speaker 1: you see tackling league wide first month of the season
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Speaker 1: is not what it should be because even since Kevin,
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Speaker 1: when Kevin played and what it was last year is
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Speaker 1: a huge difference obviously, right, Yes, so it's all changed.
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Speaker 1: But back to your Kevin point, Yeah, and I lost it.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just have to see. I could tell
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Speaker 1: in your eyes you had lost I was no, no no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I was going there and it just escaped me. But
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Speaker 1: I guess the point is is that you had guys
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Speaker 1: that like Cam on the offensive line, but Jowan Taylor,
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Speaker 1: who has not yet played in a professional football game.
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Speaker 1: You know, they have got to get their bodies adjusted.
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Speaker 1: Contract receivers, defensive backs not so much, right, but those
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Speaker 1: guys up front, they've got to have the time to
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Speaker 1: make the contact and they they're not going to get
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Speaker 1: in preseason games, so they've got to get it on
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Speaker 1: the practice field. Time is running thin for these guys.
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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how Doug manages that.
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Speaker 1: Kevin's turned into old man, get off my lawn guy, Ednie, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I like that. I can remember when
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Speaker 1: he was a kid. It's always good to see the kids.
10:26
Speaker 1: He was a kid. He you as a kid. He
10:29
Speaker 1: savored the man with a million dollars smile for sure.
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Speaker 1: One more thought real quick, um, because we talked so
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Speaker 1: much about you know, Cam Robinson getting back, and Andrew
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Speaker 1: Norwell's back on the on the field, and Joan Taylor
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Speaker 1: is back on the field, and for all the consternation
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Speaker 1: about the offensive line over recent weeks, you have a
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Speaker 1: chance to have the five guys, a chance at least
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Speaker 1: to have the five guys that you intend to start
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Speaker 1: the season with. They're on opening day on September eight.
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Speaker 1: I have a question for Brian. I have a question
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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I have a question for you. Is
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Speaker 1: the group? Is the group any good when they're all
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Speaker 1: healthy and together? Yeah, but I'm assuming that Joan Taylor
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Speaker 1: is as good as advertised. But I think I've been clear.
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Speaker 1: I think if you're looking at talent, I think he's
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Speaker 1: your best offense because I think that's the position with
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Speaker 1: the most question marks and the most unknown. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if we know how good it is even if there,
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Speaker 1: and it needs to be as good as advertised. This
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Speaker 1: is my point. I think every general manager and head
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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL would tell you during training camp,
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Speaker 1: I'm worried about my offensive point. Right, they're worried about death. Right,
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Speaker 1: there's always a guy that's kind of banged up. I
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Speaker 1: think if you have that group together, I think they
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Speaker 1: have the potential to be a very good unit, maybe
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Speaker 1: not top five in the league. But I certainly think
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Speaker 1: that they can be a top ten unit based on
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Speaker 1: talent in the National Football League because it's fascinating to
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Speaker 1: me because you've got, as we discussed, you've got Normal
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Speaker 1: and Lander who have been paid but have not been
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Speaker 1: dominant as that duo did you feel great about. You've
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Speaker 1: got Cam Robinson who has potentially be very good but hasn't.
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Speaker 1: That left side could be fantastic. We just haven't seen
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Speaker 1: it be fantastic. And that if it's as good as
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Speaker 1: we think they can be, I think this team is
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Speaker 1: really good. If it's not, I think it's in trouble.
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Speaker 1: And I think the right side and I'm assuming that
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Speaker 1: Will Richardson Jr. Is going to take that spot because
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Speaker 1: I keep hearing he is too powerful, I mean too
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Speaker 1: right tackles. It looks like it could be really good.
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Speaker 1: It looks like it could be really really good. Again,
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Speaker 1: we've got to see it. We won't until opening day,
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Speaker 1: but this group, especially with Taylor and Norwell back in
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Speaker 1: the mix, and it looks like Cam is going to
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Speaker 1: be there or at least close to it on opening day.
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Speaker 1: He's not going to be an October guy. He may
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Speaker 1: be mid September, but You're going to have this group together,
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Speaker 1: and I think they have the potential to be a
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Speaker 1: the preseason. Brian, you have a hot take on the starters.
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Speaker 1: I had to read the screen because I forgot what
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Speaker 1: it was, um and I kind of hit this off
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Speaker 1: the top. Look, you'll see the starters are on Thursday, right,
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Speaker 1: But you're not going to see anything. These guys are
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Speaker 1: going to be on the field, but the coaching staff
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Speaker 1: is still going to be extraordinarily cautious on two fronts. One,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to show anything. I just got done
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Speaker 1: reading Peter King's Football Morning in America this morning, and
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Speaker 1: they they were talking about Kyler Murray and how people
16:17
Speaker 1: don't know yet on Kyler Murray because the offense is
16:20
Speaker 1: so vanilla. Exactly. That's exactly what the coaching staff out
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Speaker 1: there wants to do. They want no one to know anything. Well,
16:27
Speaker 1: they've got the advantage here. Even though you may know
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Speaker 1: some of the personnel right, you know folds, you know
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Speaker 1: for net, you've never seen it all together. They're not
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Speaker 1: gonna show you anything at all. Nothing that Kansas City
16:37
Speaker 1: can run through their analytics team and come up with
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Speaker 1: tendencies they want them guessing. It's an advantage. The other
16:43
Speaker 1: thing is, and Doug really made this point the other
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Speaker 1: day when we were talking, and that is you have
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Speaker 1: your starters out there. You're not putting them in danger.
16:51
Speaker 1: You're not putting them in a situation where you're asking
16:54
Speaker 1: them to get crazy. You simply want them out there
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Speaker 1: to get the contact to go through some of the
16:59
Speaker 1: motions to shake off a little of the rust, and
17:01
Speaker 1: then you want to trot them to the sidelines and go, okay,
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Speaker 1: we already, let's go to the regular season. I think
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Speaker 1: as much as anything, people will see that and hear
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Speaker 1: what you're saying, and the first instinct, if you haven't
17:11
Speaker 1: followed the league for a long time is well, then
17:13
Speaker 1: why are they playing them at all? And the reason
17:16
Speaker 1: they play them at all is not for is not
17:21
Speaker 1: to satisfy the fans hunger to see them. That's not
17:25
Speaker 1: why they're out there. They're out there because, especially this year,
17:29
Speaker 1: they want a dress rehearsal, meaning it starts on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: which is really their Wednesday for regular season. They want
17:38
Speaker 1: these guys to go through the whole motion, and then
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Speaker 1: they want them to play afterwards so they can see
17:42
Speaker 1: what it's like to put in the game plan, to
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Speaker 1: see what it's like with each other. It's all for
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Speaker 1: the experience, so that when Week one rolls around, it's familiar.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's important to say, because I think
17:53
Speaker 1: people do say, well, if if we're not seeing anything,
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Speaker 1: then why risk them at all. It's for them and
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Speaker 1: their routine. It's not for let's show the fans how
18:02
Speaker 1: good or bad we are. And this to me goes
18:04
Speaker 1: back to the whole viability of the preseason, because I
18:07
Speaker 1: think people have tuned out of the preseason knowing they're
18:10
Speaker 1: not going to see players, risk not going to see
18:12
Speaker 1: the starters out there. I just over the weekend talking
18:15
Speaker 1: to people out of barbecue at Public's. Well, call me
18:17
Speaker 1: when the regular season starts, because you know, why do
18:19
Speaker 1: I want to watch that. I don't want to watch.
18:21
Speaker 1: If I wanted to watch practice, I go down and
18:23
Speaker 1: watch practice. I don't need to do that. Call me
18:26
Speaker 1: when the regular season. It's fair and it's fair, and
18:29
Speaker 1: everybody's sort of in a spot where it's right at
18:33
Speaker 1: anybody's fault that they've created them. But the sal recap
18:36
Speaker 1: era has changed the game right, and the coaches are
18:40
Speaker 1: doing exactly what they should do, trying to prepare. I
18:42
Speaker 1: actually got a letter in the ozone the other day. Um,
18:46
Speaker 1: they owe us, this is the tone, they owe us
18:50
Speaker 1: to give us something to have hope about for the
18:52
Speaker 1: regular season. So they need to game plan a little
18:54
Speaker 1: bit and show us what they really are. Yeah the end,
18:59
Speaker 1: I get that emotion from the fans, but the coaches
19:03
Speaker 1: who are trying to get this team ready would be
19:06
Speaker 1: negligent if they did anything that they felt was not
19:08
Speaker 1: getting them ready for the regular season week one. So
19:11
Speaker 1: just get through this two and a half weeks of
19:14
Speaker 1: unknown and see what it is week one. If they
19:16
Speaker 1: owe them the marketing and ticketing, the people on the
19:19
Speaker 1: business side of the hallway would be over knocking on
19:21
Speaker 1: their door saying, please, at least start fools this week,
19:24
Speaker 1: give us something, because we owe these people that they're
19:30
Speaker 1: not gonna because it's obsure what they come on in?
19:33
Speaker 1: What what they owe you? Right? What? What? Well, they
19:37
Speaker 1: don't think they owe you anything. They owe you know,
19:39
Speaker 1: their jobs, and they owe themselves and the team to
19:42
Speaker 1: go out and play to the best of their ability.
19:44
Speaker 1: So let's get the word oh out of there. Forget it.
19:47
Speaker 1: But what they're doing, what they believe their responsibility is
19:50
Speaker 1: just to win starting on September eight. That's the only thing,
19:53
Speaker 1: and they they don't care about it at all. Hence
19:56
Speaker 1: again where we are and why the preseason is changing.
20:00
Speaker 1: Of all right, my Bernie Wood fire Grill Hot Takes,
20:03
Speaker 1: It's twenty seven. Might has somewhat figured it out. And
20:06
Speaker 1: I say that because over the summer, I went up
20:08
Speaker 1: to New Orleans with the Jag Cinema team and we
20:10
Speaker 1: did a story on Leonard and I was told by
20:11
Speaker 1: so many people he looks in such great shape. He's
20:14
Speaker 1: really matured, he's taking his career really seriously. And I thought,
20:17
Speaker 1: that's that's great. I mean, family members telling me that,
20:20
Speaker 1: high school football coach telling me that. But I didn't
20:22
Speaker 1: really believe it until I came here and he started
20:25
Speaker 1: coming to training camp. And for example, he did a
20:27
Speaker 1: community event on Friday where he took the best athletes
20:30
Speaker 1: around Duval County, two best athletes from each school brought
20:33
Speaker 1: him to Top Golf and showed up early and was
20:35
Speaker 1: there the entire time and stayed late and gave a speech.
20:39
Speaker 1: He didn't do that last year. He would show up
20:41
Speaker 1: to community, community events, but it was never on a
20:43
Speaker 1: timely fashion. And I think we're seeing that forward motion coming.
20:47
Speaker 1: And I was excited to see if it translated to
20:49
Speaker 1: Jacksonville from New Orleans, and it seems like it's somewhat
20:52
Speaker 1: has se that to me is a moderately warm take.
20:55
Speaker 1: A hot take on your part would be he hasn't
20:57
Speaker 1: figured out. Are you ready to say that? Give me
21:00
Speaker 1: a few come out there. You've spent more. You've spent
21:04
Speaker 1: more time around Leonard for off the field than anyone
21:07
Speaker 1: else in this building outside of the football staff. Come on,
21:11
Speaker 1: what do you think? Tell the people what you think.
21:13
Speaker 1: I think he has gotten it figured out. But I
21:15
Speaker 1: think her hesitancy is fair. It is because I can't
21:18
Speaker 1: help but go, because there's still an element with Leonard
21:20
Speaker 1: where you've got to see it over the long term.
21:23
Speaker 1: Everything we're seeing is fantastic. And I agree with her. Um.
21:27
Speaker 1: I think anybody watching this is going to say, let's
21:29
Speaker 1: see it for the entire regular season, and the biggest
21:32
Speaker 1: thing is let's see it when adversity hits. But I
21:35
Speaker 1: think for right now, the approach he's taken, I think
21:38
Speaker 1: her point is that right the approach he's taking makes
21:40
Speaker 1: you feel very, very encouraged. But pragmatism and people have
21:44
Speaker 1: heard us talk about that. I don't want boring. I
21:46
Speaker 1: want to know what you really think. I think, and
21:48
Speaker 1: I joke about you're not on the hook, You're not responsible.
21:52
Speaker 1: If he doesn't come through, I hope not call me.
21:56
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying, you've been around him so much,
21:58
Speaker 1: you've done the story. People should look for the story
22:01
Speaker 1: he figured it out. He definitely has figured it out.
22:03
Speaker 1: But John brings up a good point at versity, hasn't Hey,
22:07
Speaker 1: we gotta say it, safety net, go ahead your um,
22:11
Speaker 1: I'm just using you. And this might be the best
22:15
Speaker 1: rookie class this team has had. That's a hot take
22:18
Speaker 1: because a big rookie class, and that's the discussion point
22:22
Speaker 1: here is is probably the best draft classes team has
22:26
Speaker 1: ever had. The point in saying this rookie class might
22:29
Speaker 1: be the most impactful in two decades. They weren't any
22:31
Speaker 1: good in sixteen. So the rookie class had impact and
22:35
Speaker 1: you could tell it was going to be good, But
22:37
Speaker 1: what did it impact. It impacted a team that went
22:41
Speaker 1: was a two and fourteen, three and thirteen. So by impactful,
22:44
Speaker 1: I think this team is going to be good. And
22:47
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen and Joan Taylor together might have
22:52
Speaker 1: the biggest impact of two top draft picks since Donovan
22:56
Speaker 1: and Fred and it was really Freddie had the enormous impact. Um.
23:01
Speaker 1: If Josh Allen is an impact SAT guy, then all
23:06
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the defense has a chance to go
23:07
Speaker 1: from very very good two unbelievably good. In the past,
23:11
Speaker 1: Rush John Taylor could impact the offensive line the way
23:14
Speaker 1: we're talking about. If he's really their best offensive lineman,
23:17
Speaker 1: which I don't disagree with with you, and the offensive
23:20
Speaker 1: line is good, then those are two keys you add
23:23
Speaker 1: on to that. There's been nothing inside the building that
23:26
Speaker 1: makes you think that Quincy Williams isn't good. I think
23:29
Speaker 1: right while Armstead has a chance to make an impact
23:32
Speaker 1: is as running back, but it's really the first two guys.
23:37
Speaker 1: They have a chance to be as impactful and to
23:40
Speaker 1: have a positive impact because of what I think the
23:45
Speaker 1: team's record will be than anybody since ninety eight. You win,
23:48
Speaker 1: how to stick it the day the John. I do
23:51
Speaker 1: want to say this about Quincy Williams because I think
23:53
Speaker 1: it's going under the radar for the last couple of
23:55
Speaker 1: weeks since he's been on the sideline. The kid from
23:58
Speaker 1: Murray State that Daniel Jeremiah knew nothing about on the
24:01
Speaker 1: NFL broadcast, And Daniel Jeremiah is an excellent Scott, right,
24:06
Speaker 1: but he knew nothing about this kid. And yet he
24:09
Speaker 1: came in and Quincy Williams settled into the starting role
24:14
Speaker 1: and Telvin Smith All Pro linebacker Telvin Smith spot and
24:19
Speaker 1: we never talked about, gosh, what this defense is going
24:21
Speaker 1: to look like without Telvin. A story there, but we're
24:25
Speaker 1: leaving it alone because he's a rookie and he's injured,
24:27
Speaker 1: but the story of the game, and he's only practice
24:29
Speaker 1: a few times, he's got to do it. But you
24:32
Speaker 1: can see the confidence in the building is strong on him.
24:35
Speaker 1: You can sort of tell it to if you remember
24:38
Speaker 1: last year when Ronnie Harrison was around the Vets. There
24:42
Speaker 1: was a quick acceptance of Ronnie because they knew he
24:46
Speaker 1: was good. Um, I haven't been around them around Quincy
24:50
Speaker 1: quite as much as I saw with Ryan Harrison last year,
24:52
Speaker 1: but you get that same feeling from Quincy Williams that
24:54
Speaker 1: the players know that this kid can play. They've seen
24:57
Speaker 1: him run, they've seen him reacting to practice field. He's
25:00
Speaker 1: a part of it. Uh, he's got to do it.
25:04
Speaker 1: But you get the idea early on that he's a hit.
25:08
Speaker 1: There's a level of oh crap when he got hurt,
25:10
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of us thought that would
25:12
Speaker 1: be a problem when they drafted. He's not ready to
25:14
Speaker 1: go for the tar the break season. Hey, he's the
25:16
Speaker 1: third round pick from Murray State. What are we talking
25:17
Speaker 1: about here? But the reality of it is is that
25:20
Speaker 1: he showed us enough his athleticism, his instincts. People are
25:24
Speaker 1: excited to see him because it was as much that,
25:28
Speaker 1: oh well, I wish we had a chance to see
25:30
Speaker 1: this kid in various Leonard the linebacker from South Carolina State,
25:33
Speaker 1: that that was a Pro Bowl caliber linebacker. I don't
25:35
Speaker 1: think he made the Pro Bowl last should for Indianapolis.
25:40
Speaker 1: They were talking about him throughout the off season and
25:44
Speaker 1: we're like, come on, South Carolina State, come on the
25:47
Speaker 1: same situation this year with My favorite thing about Quincy
25:50
Speaker 1: is back when he signed his contract and I told him,
25:52
Speaker 1: I said, you know, Daniel jam I didn't know your name.
25:54
Speaker 1: He goes who It's like, you know, Daniel Jeremy. He's like,
25:57
Speaker 1: oh yeah, well he's gonna know my name now. The
26:00
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Speaker 1: when Dirk Cutter was the offensive coordinator back in two
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Speaker 1: thousand seven. But he he was the guy who started
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Speaker 1: that thing with Boise State, right, I mean he's the
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Speaker 1: guy who got the program up on its feet. And
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Speaker 1: probably never should have left Boise State. I thought it
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Speaker 1: that you could have success. I mean, look, they're coming
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Speaker 1: that's what I have to deal with right now. Well,
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Speaker 1: come on with the maybe stuff. Be decisive. S Z
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Speaker 1: are you posting it looks like my Golden Retrievers sitting
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Speaker 1: on the driveways. Alright, I'm not ready to start this
29:34
Speaker 1: week like this. All right, let's go to Scott Hi Senior. Oh,
29:38
Speaker 1: got any thoughts yet on who the Jaguars will keep
29:41
Speaker 1: on the offensive line? Us, Well, the starters obviously, I mean,
29:48
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Cam, You're gonna have Norwell, you're gonna
29:50
Speaker 1: have Linder, You're gonna have a j Ken will Richardson
29:54
Speaker 1: and Joan Tayos. That's six. I anticipate them keeping a
29:59
Speaker 1: boy he uh. Anticipate them keeping Tyler Shatley on the inside,
30:03
Speaker 1: which would be eight. It gets you to eight, and
30:06
Speaker 1: it also gets you to backup centers, which is always
30:09
Speaker 1: the key to the equation. And you know, after that
30:13
Speaker 1: it becomes do you keep Josh Wells or Brandon Thomas
30:17
Speaker 1: some combination of that or both. And I think nine
30:21
Speaker 1: or ten those would be the numbers. What you don't
30:25
Speaker 1: know about the numbers and why these questions are always
30:27
Speaker 1: hard to answer what happens at other positions. I think
30:30
Speaker 1: the opposite of line coach would love to keep ten.
30:31
Speaker 1: Maybe it's nine, But if you're tight ends are all
30:33
Speaker 1: banged up and keep an extra one of those, that's
30:36
Speaker 1: what happens. And I think a guy like Wells probably
30:38
Speaker 1: gets signed by somebody if he's on the street. So
30:42
Speaker 1: maybe Brandon Thomas you could sneak through. The problem is
30:46
Speaker 1: any time there's a lineman who has shown anything on
30:49
Speaker 1: the field during preseason, you're in danger of them getting
30:54
Speaker 1: you know, scooped up linebackers. Other positions, tight ends you
30:59
Speaker 1: can often sneak. The linemen are such a premium that
31:02
Speaker 1: they they might lose one of these guys if if
31:05
Speaker 1: they're released. I don't remember if they changed the practice
31:07
Speaker 1: squad rules again, Brandon Thomas and I say that I
31:11
Speaker 1: think he's eligible. Total sarcasm, because they keep changing the rules.
31:15
Speaker 1: You know, football people want to be able to keep
31:16
Speaker 1: these guys around a little bit. And Thomas is a
31:19
Speaker 1: former third round pick who's been on some practice squads.
31:22
Speaker 1: So if he's got any eligibility at all, that's a
31:23
Speaker 1: no brainer because Wells will get signed by someone. Um.
31:27
Speaker 1: I just that swing tackle, the ability to play both
31:30
Speaker 1: sides tackle is more valuable to me than a guy
31:34
Speaker 1: who only plays right. They already sort of have that
31:36
Speaker 1: in a way. He said, Yep, you have one swinging tackle,
31:39
Speaker 1: but two is better than one. And it's interesting the
31:42
Speaker 1: argument for the practice squad that you're talking about and
31:47
Speaker 1: the ability to keep more guys around, which has increased
31:51
Speaker 1: very subtly over the last what maybe ten years. Um,
31:55
Speaker 1: the argument for that from the teams would be, we
32:00
Speaker 1: need to be able to keep lineman like that who
32:02
Speaker 1: were young because the continuity of the line and the
32:06
Speaker 1: line play is so bad in the NFL that you
32:09
Speaker 1: need a space to develop guys like that. So this
32:12
Speaker 1: is really playing out here. Shatley and Wells have been
32:14
Speaker 1: here for five years. I mean, you're talking about two
32:17
Speaker 1: undrafted and and Wells was a guy who played quarterback
32:20
Speaker 1: in college and then late in his career shifted to
32:23
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. So those two, and those two have been
32:25
Speaker 1: valuable back. You needed Shatlee as Brandon Linder was down
32:30
Speaker 1: for almost a month. Right, he played so well in
32:32
Speaker 1: that big game in Pittsburgh. Um, I think the tackle
32:37
Speaker 1: is more valuable. A guy that can play two positions
32:39
Speaker 1: as opposed to Thomas he played left guard, right guard.
32:42
Speaker 1: You know whatever. But you have two backup tackles and
32:44
Speaker 1: two backup centers and two backup guards in Shatlee and
32:48
Speaker 1: Wells or Shatlee. Sorry, Shatley and Candy can do both.
32:51
Speaker 1: So I think Wells is here. But we'll see. We'll see.
32:54
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to big on Blake from Philly.
32:56
Speaker 1: With the amount of money allocated to the player in
32:58
Speaker 1: the connections new her back Nick Foles already has with
33:01
Speaker 1: the younger receivers, Why keep Marquise Lee on the roster? Okay,
33:04
Speaker 1: I can cut you off. The rest of it is,
33:08
Speaker 1: you know, talking about Marquis and talking about a lot
33:10
Speaker 1: of the same stuff people aways talk about. Is he overpaid?
33:13
Speaker 1: Is he this? Is he this? And then it makes
33:15
Speaker 1: the point that they were fine last year without Marquis
33:19
Speaker 1: at five and eleven. They were not fine without right
33:21
Speaker 1: and they went from number six in the NFL in
33:24
Speaker 1: total offense to being completely ineffective in the passing game. Now,
33:27
Speaker 1: having Marquis wouldn't have changed all that, but losing Marquise,
33:31
Speaker 1: don't forget he's a very good third down receiver when
33:35
Speaker 1: you need six yards picking up seven. What I always
33:38
Speaker 1: heard last year about Marquise, the thing they missed about
33:41
Speaker 1: him was his leadership and his football instinct. He's the
33:47
Speaker 1: guy on the sidelines that when things start to go bad,
33:50
Speaker 1: doesn't accept that they're going bad. And you guys have
33:54
Speaker 1: spent more time in sidelines than I have. Shelynn, I'm sure.
33:56
Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw it in seventeen him get in receivers, faces,
34:01
Speaker 1: teammates faces, doing the right thing. He is a leader
34:04
Speaker 1: out there. He's also an exceptionally good downfield run blocker.
34:08
Speaker 1: He's incredibly tough. Uh. I get that with his numbers,
34:13
Speaker 1: because his his career has seven yards ish receiving. The
34:17
Speaker 1: people overlook what he's done. They absolutely missed Mark Kasley
34:21
Speaker 1: on the field last year, and beyond that, his cap
34:25
Speaker 1: number dictates that don't release him this year. Anyway, even
34:28
Speaker 1: if it didn't, they would want him around because he's
34:31
Speaker 1: the spirit of that room. He's a better player than
34:34
Speaker 1: people think he is. And I think you just extolled
34:36
Speaker 1: all of those virtues. The thing about him that people
34:39
Speaker 1: forget is how mentally tough he is. He's a rookie.
34:42
Speaker 1: He came in here, in and away from home right
34:47
Speaker 1: and had the hamstring injury, and the media converged. This
34:52
Speaker 1: was a guy that a lot of people thought was
34:53
Speaker 1: the first round pick, so the expectations were high for him,
34:56
Speaker 1: and now he's having to deal with the hamstring. And
34:58
Speaker 1: I watched as Us Bradley coached him through the process
35:03
Speaker 1: and how he grew to the ability to stand there
35:06
Speaker 1: and say, no, it doesn't it bothers me. I'm not playing.
35:08
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me that you're asking me. Here's what
35:10
Speaker 1: I'm doing. He's a tough kid. Football is a game
35:14
Speaker 1: for tough men. I appreciate that. I think my opinion,
35:19
Speaker 1: he is the toughest guy in that locker room. Yeah,
35:22
Speaker 1: he gone through. He wouldn't be back right now. Um,
35:27
Speaker 1: this wasn't just an a c L. He came back
35:28
Speaker 1: from and this isn't an answer to the question is
35:31
Speaker 1: it you don't keep him for this reason, but it's
35:34
Speaker 1: remarkable that he's on the field less than a year
35:37
Speaker 1: after the injury. I thought none. No. I thought at
35:41
Speaker 1: one point that's the kind of injury that puts him
35:44
Speaker 1: into twenty, at which point his salary cap number is
35:48
Speaker 1: so high that he's not here. I thought we had
35:50
Speaker 1: probably seen the last of Mark Easley. He is the
35:54
Speaker 1: toughest guy, and it's a legitimate question how he will
35:58
Speaker 1: be when he gets back. We still don't know that.
36:01
Speaker 1: But considering the fact that he's back already, I wouldn't
36:05
Speaker 1: discount him being a heavy contributed this year. Tyree Brady
36:08
Speaker 1: c J Board, pick your guy, Tray McBride, No, no, no,
36:14
Speaker 1: All three of them combined are not what And take
36:17
Speaker 1: all the rest of the rookie receivers when markas Lee
36:19
Speaker 1: is healthy, if he's healthy, take them all and combine
36:22
Speaker 1: all their talent. He's better. You don't give that up.
36:25
Speaker 1: All right. Let's wrap it up with Al from Orange Park.
36:28
Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks do you expect the Jags to keep
36:30
Speaker 1: on the active roster this year? I think they keep too.
36:33
Speaker 1: I think they keep minshewing Folds, not in that order.
36:35
Speaker 1: Folds and minshee obviously, and then I think you keep
36:37
Speaker 1: McGoo on the practice squad. Uh, he's shown enough to me.
36:42
Speaker 1: Brian is pretty clear that that's the plan. I'd be
36:44
Speaker 1: shocked if he goes any other way. Um, the rollout
36:47
Speaker 1: was pretty and the other night. But the throw on
36:51
Speaker 1: the run that was on the dime, I mean, if
36:53
Speaker 1: it wasn't for that safety that came over and knocked
36:55
Speaker 1: it away made it even better play. That throw is
36:58
Speaker 1: something we'd still be talking to me. It was a
37:00
Speaker 1: precise throw. Well, tanner Lee didn't give you that right.
37:04
Speaker 1: And this guy you need a third quarterback on your
37:06
Speaker 1: practice squad. This guy has the practice squad eligibility. Absolutely
37:10
Speaker 1: makes sense. Three of them are in your program, two
37:13
Speaker 1: of them are on the octave roster. Surprised that Tannerley
37:16
Speaker 1: stayed this long? You think no, I mean, he was
37:18
Speaker 1: a six round pick. You wanted to try to develop him.
37:21
Speaker 1: He was gonna last last year anyway, you know. I
37:24
Speaker 1: mean that's why you draft a quarterback nearly every year
37:26
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Speaker 1: I love the music. Yeah. A storeline that we have
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Speaker 1: pretty cool just to see that two of them together
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Speaker 1: around the stadium to have the chance to say congratulations. Well,
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Speaker 1: and you can tell it's one thing to lead a
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Speaker 1: team to the super Bowl, and he did that next tray.
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Speaker 1: That's why the Philly fans love him. But you can
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Speaker 1: tell from the players, Uh, we really haven't seen because
40:25
Speaker 1: there's only been a few media availabilities with Nick and
40:27
Speaker 1: I haven't spent a lot of time with him, but
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Speaker 1: you can tell to his detriment by the way, Well,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt anybody would tell you that time with
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Speaker 1: those on his time will spent. But um, except mrs.
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Speaker 1: It's remarkable the teammates love form and they want to
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Speaker 1: come across. He's obviously a guy that people want to
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Speaker 1: be around and they're drawn to him. And uh, that's
40:53
Speaker 1: not the case with every Every quarterback who's a good
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Speaker 1: leader doesn't necessarily have that. People want to be around
41:02
Speaker 1: this guy. Uh, And it's an interesting dynamic that not
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Speaker 1: everybody has. I don't know what it means in terms
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Speaker 1: of on the field, but it's sure can't hurt in
41:11
Speaker 1: establishing a team unity, a team identity, a team chemistry,
41:16
Speaker 1: h it's an interesting part to watch. Thanks for sharing
41:18
Speaker 1: the first person, you know, experience of being that guy. Yeah,
41:23
Speaker 1: you're you're that guy here on the hallway. That's for sure.
41:26
Speaker 1: I may not be back tomorrow. They just thank goodness
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Speaker 1: for you. Tweets, tweets, top tweets. All right, let's start
41:41
Speaker 1: talk tweets with a play that definitely stood out in
41:43
Speaker 1: last Thursday's preseason game. It was the first drive of
41:46
Speaker 1: the game and it was Josh Allen just picking up
41:50
Speaker 1: this tackle and throwing him Max. We have the video. Um.
41:54
Speaker 1: Immediately we all said, Wow, that's what you drafted him for. Um.
41:58
Speaker 1: He is. This is the argument for Josh Allen, and
42:04
Speaker 1: that is that he is a guy who can give
42:06
Speaker 1: you that just two sixty pounds, he can give you
42:10
Speaker 1: the bull rush to go with all of his moves.
42:12
Speaker 1: He's not just a speed rusher. He's not just the
42:14
Speaker 1: outside guy with the spin moved to the inside. He
42:17
Speaker 1: is a multidimensional player. Now, he did not play like
42:22
Speaker 1: that every snap of that game. Um, He's got a
42:25
Speaker 1: long way to go to become the player that he
42:27
Speaker 1: wants to be. But that is impressive, and that's why
42:31
Speaker 1: he was the seventh pick of the draft. I think,
42:33
Speaker 1: what maybe we haven't talked about because he gets drafted
42:37
Speaker 1: and then you see him in practice and they're keeping him,
42:41
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, keeping him a defensive end because they want
42:43
Speaker 1: him to be great at that before they doing anything else. Um,
42:46
Speaker 1: he's too sixty five. Doug dropped real early in training camp,
42:50
Speaker 1: the number two seventy one with his weight. Um, he
42:54
Speaker 1: is a phenomenally big human being who I see no
43:00
Speaker 1: reason in the world in the future once he gets
43:03
Speaker 1: defensive end down that he can't drop and play linebacker.
43:06
Speaker 1: You're talking about a two seventy pound linebacker who can
43:09
Speaker 1: run and move like this kid. It reminds you of
43:12
Speaker 1: when you see Jalen Ramsey among other cornerbacks and you're
43:17
Speaker 1: blown away by how much bigger he is. And there's
43:21
Speaker 1: no way that Jalen should be able to do the
43:22
Speaker 1: things he does physically being as big and impressive as
43:27
Speaker 1: he is. He's that version of pass rushing defensive end.
43:32
Speaker 1: Most guys who can rush like him are not to seventy.
43:34
Speaker 1: Remember that Dom Capers is working with Toddwalsh, and Dom
43:38
Speaker 1: was the originator of the zone blitz, which had the
43:40
Speaker 1: big guys up front dropping back into coverage to allow
43:43
Speaker 1: other guys to rush the pastor I don't think you'll
43:45
Speaker 1: see it this year. It's usually gimmicky when guys do it,
43:48
Speaker 1: though when this kid does it, it's not. It's not
43:50
Speaker 1: because he can do it well. So I wouldn't be
43:52
Speaker 1: surprised at all if he grows into it and shows
43:54
Speaker 1: that he's mastered some that you don't see some games
43:57
Speaker 1: with this kid where they put him in different positions
44:00
Speaker 1: and let him come. He is a he is a
44:03
Speaker 1: tremendous football player. He's got everything you want and as
44:07
Speaker 1: you guys know, he's a great young man. Yeah, he
44:10
Speaker 1: is a great Yeah, he's a great representative for this franchise.
44:13
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Michael d Rocco d Rock
44:17
Speaker 1: who tweeted out just watched Jaguar specialty coach Jodi camillis
44:21
Speaker 1: working on that exact situation when players the other day
44:24
Speaker 1: in practice, you guys saw this play the special teams
44:27
Speaker 1: for play healing Cole out of bounds, one out of bounds.
44:30
Speaker 1: I was a little confused at first. I think we
44:32
Speaker 1: all were, and then but then we all realized they
44:35
Speaker 1: have been practicing that just the other day. Yeah, it's
44:38
Speaker 1: the rule and I'm still not sure the spirit of
44:40
Speaker 1: the rule. I'm sure there's something to be involved with
44:44
Speaker 1: UH helping the officials two cleanly officiate the rule every time.
44:51
Speaker 1: That's usually what strange rules are is. It's to allow
44:55
Speaker 1: the official to make the call without judgment and without
45:00
Speaker 1: UH subjectivity. But it's when if if if you're on
45:04
Speaker 1: the receiving team is out of bounds and touches the
45:05
Speaker 1: balls and it's ruled out of bounds, which favors the
45:07
Speaker 1: receiving team and puts it on the forty. And to
45:10
Speaker 1: Joe's credit, he was doing a drill where he basically
45:12
Speaker 1: had everybody on kickoff return practice getting out of bounds,
45:18
Speaker 1: keeping a foot down and then reaching for the ball,
45:20
Speaker 1: and Joe would throw it out and the ball would
45:22
Speaker 1: be spinning around and guys would have to reach for it,
45:25
Speaker 1: and Celan Cole, to his credit, I pulled it off.
45:28
Speaker 1: It's not a new rule. It was done last year
45:30
Speaker 1: a couple of times where and it's for when that
45:33
Speaker 1: kickoff goes to the side and it's sort of just
45:36
Speaker 1: spinning around and everybody's confused. UH. Credit to Joe for
45:39
Speaker 1: teaching it. H. I start to find out from Joe
45:43
Speaker 1: what the spirit of the rule is. I doubt he
45:45
Speaker 1: cares about the spirit of the the rule as long as
45:47
Speaker 1: he can use uh Joe and everything. I mean, there
45:50
Speaker 1: are good special teams coaches in the NFL. They are great.
45:53
Speaker 1: He's one of the great ones. He's been He's been
45:55
Speaker 1: at it since the Broncos of the late eighties where
45:57
Speaker 1: they were on Super Bowl teams. He knows all those rules.
46:00
Speaker 1: I want to hear from him too, because I didn't know.
46:02
Speaker 1: It seemed to me like that was working against the
46:06
Speaker 1: kicking team, even though it was the receiving team that
46:08
Speaker 1: was out of bounds when I touched it. I think
46:09
Speaker 1: it's the ball sitting on the field like that. You think, well,
46:13
Speaker 1: wait a second, you should have to have to do
46:15
Speaker 1: something with it, right the spirit they can recover it, right.
46:18
Speaker 1: My instinct is the spirit of it has to do
46:20
Speaker 1: with on side kick somehow. I just haven't researched enough.
46:23
Speaker 1: But you would think with the onside kick they want
46:27
Speaker 1: clear rules for possession that aren't for debate. But I
46:32
Speaker 1: can't quite figure out. I guess I just don't tell you.
46:35
Speaker 1: I would say I was confused because the entire Silene
46:39
Speaker 1: was freaking out. Joe d jumping up in the air,
46:41
Speaker 1: dumb moron clapping screaming as what just happened? Kick? I
46:46
Speaker 1: don't get it, and I think we were all confused
46:48
Speaker 1: in the booth as well as I had never seen that.
46:52
Speaker 1: But it's an unbelievable advantage you think about it, because
46:55
Speaker 1: teams do try to kick the ball to the sidelines
46:59
Speaker 1: to pin the special team. So the ball stopped inbound,
47:03
Speaker 1: and if it stops around the three yard line and
47:06
Speaker 1: you just simply fall on it, if you're out of bounds,
47:09
Speaker 1: you gain thirty five yards from it. So it's an
47:11
Speaker 1: unbelievable penalty in terms of advantage. If you think you
47:14
Speaker 1: think about that late in the game, all of a sudden,
47:17
Speaker 1: now you're on the forty of the chance to go
47:18
Speaker 1: get a fuel goal. Uh. We'll see if it comes
47:21
Speaker 1: to play in the vous season, all right, and let's
47:23
Speaker 1: wrap up top tweeks. Was something we've talked about the
47:25
Speaker 1: entire office, the new about pass interference rule. We saw
47:28
Speaker 1: it last Thursday in the preseason game Defensive pass Interference,
47:32
Speaker 1: and like we all thought, it blew up Twitter. Everyone
47:34
Speaker 1: was freaking out about the new rule. But it's here
47:37
Speaker 1: to stay because preseason we're seeing it happen, and it was.
47:41
Speaker 1: It was awful when they were trying to put it in.
47:43
Speaker 1: It was a reaction to one play. One play in
47:46
Speaker 1: the championship game. This is what's gonna happen. The league
47:49
Speaker 1: comes out and says, was it it was clear and obvious? Well,
47:53
Speaker 1: I guarantee you if this play happens in Week seven,
47:56
Speaker 1: every Jaguars fan it is going to think it was
47:59
Speaker 1: clear really not pass interference. Every UH Egos fan is
48:04
Speaker 1: going to say, clearly, what so you really haven't improved nothing.
48:07
Speaker 1: It's an awful, awful rule. The concern I have is
48:11
Speaker 1: is that when the coaches get this challenge right now,
48:14
Speaker 1: they say, well, if if it works once, well it
48:17
Speaker 1: worked there, so we could fix an obvious problem. Why
48:20
Speaker 1: can't we do that with holding on the offensive line? Right?
48:23
Speaker 1: Why can't we do that everything? Why can't we do
48:25
Speaker 1: that with because it's not going to solve anything right. However,
48:30
Speaker 1: the coaches made this push to the competition committee, Sean Payton,
48:35
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick got this thing through. They're not going to
48:38
Speaker 1: go quietly into that night. They are going to want more.
48:41
Speaker 1: They're going to want the ability to choose anything. And
48:44
Speaker 1: you know, as well as I do. Holding takes place
48:46
Speaker 1: on every single play. That's the human element of the game.
48:51
Speaker 1: You'll never clean it up completely, but you can muddle
48:54
Speaker 1: it up thoroughly. And I think this rule has the
48:56
Speaker 1: potential to be a dramatic problem that the rule might
49:00
Speaker 1: be out by the end of the regular station. That
49:01
Speaker 1: would be right. I mean, it's only on a one
49:04
Speaker 1: year deal, but if it works once, that's all it's
49:07
Speaker 1: gonna take for a guy like Sean Payton to stand up.
49:09
Speaker 1: She and I got screwed out of that Super Bowl
49:11
Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be in and now we
49:13
Speaker 1: need more. It worked once, but we shouldn't we fix
49:15
Speaker 1: one mistake if we can fix one mistake, And how
49:18
Speaker 1: do you argue with that? Well, I think the argument
49:21
Speaker 1: could well be Thursday night prime time game, Sunday a
49:25
Speaker 1: primetime game, Monday night primetime game. If there are two
49:27
Speaker 1: or three incidents like this in a row in September
49:31
Speaker 1: where the commentators are saying, Okay, we got this again,
49:34
Speaker 1: what it solved? Because most pass interference. Pass interference is
49:41
Speaker 1: like the a j Boy play in New England two
49:43
Speaker 1: years ago, where every but every Jaguar fan thought that
49:48
Speaker 1: it was a horrible call pass interference. Every Patriots fan
49:51
Speaker 1: thought it was a wonderful call pass interference, and there
49:54
Speaker 1: was no You could be sitting in a bar arguing
49:58
Speaker 1: that and both sides would walk out and believe they
50:02
Speaker 1: were still right. Now, the New Orleans thing last year
50:04
Speaker 1: was the rare case where even even the Rams fan
50:06
Speaker 1: had to say, you got lucky. But that's rare most
50:10
Speaker 1: past interference to get to a point where you can
50:13
Speaker 1: make an argument on either side. This won't solve anything.
50:15
Speaker 1: It's just going to cause a lot of confusion and frustration,
50:19
Speaker 1: just like my life, just like your life. Your well, first,
50:23
Speaker 1: you don't want to live this, No, you don't want
50:24
Speaker 1: to do this. Alright, stay tune all Offensive coordinator John D.
50:28
Speaker 1: Philippo and Toddwash speaking to the media on Jaguars dot
50:31
Speaker 1: Com and Jaguars social media later today. We'll be back
50:35
Speaker 1: on Wednesday on the next Jaguars Drive Time