Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / Beat Happening
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- 0:34It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
- 0:37band. That's right, we've done all the
- 0:39work for you. All you have to do is press play
- 0:41and listen. And my name is Justin.
- 0:44You could call me band curious because I like to get my friends
- 0:47together to talk about bands that they enjoy and find out why
- 0:50they enjoy them. And in doing so, we will come up
- 0:52with a top ten circuit to get you into the band.
- 0:56And you know, I might as well be as direct as possible with this
- 1:00'cause there's going to be a beat happening.
- 1:01Because today we are talking about beat happening.
- 1:04And the two of you seemed really excited about this one.
- 1:09I have this one. This one came out of left field.
- 1:12I feel like we did Neutral Milk Hotel and the two of you were
- 1:17discussing them, John and and then Gavin couldn't make up his
- 1:21mind. So you said I want to do beat
- 1:22happening so. Yeah.
- 1:25So talk to me about Beat Happening and how the hell did
- 1:28we get here? Right, so Beat Happening is an
- 1:36interesting band. Like they were in our bank.
- 1:39Be your life. They are ostensibly a a punk
- 1:43band, if only in attitude. They are interesting and like
- 1:50they're they're one of these bands that we talk about that's
- 1:54super influential, even though they were very small and not
- 1:59very like, you know, quote UN quote popular.
- 2:02They didn't sell a lot of records in their time, but
- 2:05they're like, if you think back like Beat Happening started in
- 2:1082 or 83 and like you think about what was going on then.
- 2:14Like hardcore had been going on. Punk rock was pretty much over,
- 2:18but hardcore was the transitioning into metal and
- 2:21like everything was like super, super heavy.
- 2:24So like, every once in a while you get these bands or these
- 2:29people, these artists that, for lack of a better word, they zig
- 2:34when everyone else acts, right? They see what's going on.
- 2:36They're like, Nope, this is not for me.
- 2:39We're going to do the exact opposite of that.
- 2:42And you know, that goes back to like the Velvet Underground,
- 2:47like Jonathan Richmond, huge influence.
- 2:50Like you think about what was happening at the time, like the
- 2:53violent films in Milwaukee, even though like that record became
- 2:56huge, like they were on an indie label.
- 2:58They were from Milwaukee. Like busking on the street
- 3:01playing these like acoustic guitar songs of the guy didn't
- 3:06sound like anything else was going on.
- 3:08And beat happening starts in Olympia, WA.
- 3:14It's the brainchild of this guy Calvin Johnson, who was into
- 3:21like college radio and Zenes like things that would become
- 3:26popular 10-15 years later. Like they along with, you know,
- 3:32you had, you know, minor threat and the, the discord stuff on
- 3:35the East Coast, like kind of giving the blueprint for DIY for
- 3:39people around the country. Like do it yourself.
- 3:41You don't, you don't need a a label.
- 3:43Like, you know, the Clash were on CBS records, a major label,
- 3:47Ramones from Sire. You know, there wasn't this
- 3:49history of bands doing it themselves until this time, like
- 3:54808182. So Calvin like starts this
- 3:59record Zine. I think K Records, which lasted
- 4:03for a long time. I think it's probably even still
- 4:05around. And like, you know, it gets
- 4:08overshadowed by sub pop in the ladies and early 90s when that
- 4:11blows up. But K Records is they've always
- 4:15maintained this like integrity and like this this way of doing
- 4:23things that they they, you know, they stuck to what they did.
- 4:26And like, there's something very like honorable about that in
- 4:30this time when like everybody has sold out.
- 4:34Like they're it's it says something that like they didn't
- 4:38do it And you know, beat happening.
- 4:42He he saw what was going on with all this heavy music and he was
- 4:45like, Nope, we're we're I'm going to find some people that
- 4:49can barely play and we're going to sing songs about cute things
- 4:53and love and crushes. And it's going to be this very
- 4:59like twee thing and screw anybody who doesn't like it.
- 5:05And they were like they would get like people hated them when
- 5:11they would play like they would play shows like back in the head
- 5:15people be like, what is this? But you know, you they found
- 5:19this community up in the Pacific Northwest of like like minded
- 5:25people. And you know, this eventually
- 5:28leads to, you know, riot girl like like this is part of the
- 5:35puzzle of Nirvana. Kurt Cobain, I believe, was a
- 5:38huge beat happening fan. He would always talk about K
- 5:41records. I think they were even on one of
- 5:44their compilations or something early on.
- 5:46But the tattoo, yeah, the K Records tattoo.
- 5:52And yeah, but Calvin Johnson is one of those people like Ian
- 5:56Mackay, like Henry Rollins, who like started this thing and
- 6:02like, yeah, it didn't get as popular as as some of the other
- 6:06stuff did, but it was just as influential.
- 6:08Like, think of some of the bands we've done.
- 6:10Like I was just talking to like Bell and Sebastian.
- 6:12Like Bell and Sebastian owes a lot to Beat Happening.
- 6:16Sleeter Kinney would tell you that Beat Happening was it was a
- 6:20big influence on them. A lot of those bands took this
- 6:24and like bands around the country.
- 6:26Like when I was in in College in the late 90s, you could go into
- 6:30any club in Athens or, you know, Portland, Austin, anywhere and
- 6:36hear bands that sound like this, that took their influences, said
- 6:40we might not be able to play, but we can do this.
- 6:44And it's one of those things that kind of sprouted this DIY
- 6:48Network in the in the late 80s, early 90s, where people heard
- 6:52this and you either hated it or you were like, this is the most
- 6:57revolutionary thing I've ever heard.
- 6:58Those people were the ones who started bands and started scenes
- 7:04in their towns and, and scenes and scenes and scenes.
- 7:08And not to make a joke about it, but those are the people that
- 7:12like saw this one, like I can do that.
- 7:15And it was inspirational for those people in that community.
- 7:18And for that reason, it's it's super important.
- 7:22It's it's funny, you said some you said either people hate it
- 7:25or love it. And the first thing that Gavin
- 7:27said once you settled on Beat happening is Justin, you're
- 7:30going to hate it. So talk to me about about beat
- 7:34happening, Gavin. I kept thinking like this,
- 7:37Justin, is Justin going to think that we're we're punking him?
- 7:41You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck is this?
- 7:46I saw Beat Happening open for Fugazi at Gilman Street on May
- 7:5220th, 1990. They fucking do.
- 7:57The Offspring play that show. I didn't even know who they
- 7:59were. I didn't even watch them.
- 8:00I was just like outside. But they like blew me away.
- 8:04I didn't know anything about Beat Happening.
- 8:07They blew me away and then I bought Black Candy and I was
- 8:12like, what the fuck is this? I hated it.
- 8:16I was like, this can't be the same band, you know what I mean?
- 8:19I was like, this is not what happened at that show.
- 8:23I don't even remember what was so amazing about them.
- 8:26They were just like incredible. His he was just fucking with the
- 8:31crowd and like they were so energetic and so good.
- 8:35And then Black Candy just sounded like so rudimentary.
- 8:41I just didn't really, I couldn't really appreciate it.
- 8:43And then I read our band Could be Your Life and and they are
- 8:50not even close to my favorite band in that book, but it's my
- 8:54favorite chapter in that book because it just spins like this,
- 8:59like fantastic tale of like this group of kids that are like,
- 9:07we're going to just completely self mythologize and create our
- 9:11own universe. You know, it's like they were
- 9:15having like they just went totally analog.
- 9:17They were like, we're having dinner parties in the forest and
- 9:22like we're going to write each other letters.
- 9:24And like they would have like, you know, not been emailing and
- 9:28like thrown out their cell phones if that stuff, you know,
- 9:33existed at the time when they were doing all that.
- 9:34But they were just like, we're going to live a romantic life
- 9:38with our friends. And it was so intriguing and
- 9:42like so compelling. And then I knew this woman in
- 9:48the city who was a tattoo artist and she was covered in tattoos
- 9:52and she was like super fierce. And, and I was like, what?
- 9:56What? Like I was like, what is that
- 9:58like some writing on her arm? And she's like, Oh well, if I
- 10:01have like writing on my body, it's only beat happening lyrics.
- 10:06That was like all she would get tattooed on her really
- 10:09incredible. But like, I'm not like the
- 10:13hugest beat happening fan. I have like massive respect for
- 10:16them. But every few years I'll be
- 10:19like, I'll go back to them and be like, I think I'm ready, you
- 10:23know, like, I think I'm ready to like, totally, like, like, get
- 10:27struck by this. And I'm like, it can't be as bad
- 10:31as I remember, you know? And like, then I'm like, some of
- 10:35it is like worse than I remember.
- 10:36And then some of it is like, it got it, get it gets me.
- 10:41And I'm like, I fucking get it. This is like the Best Song Ever,
- 10:44you know? They just have like this like,
- 10:46like John was talking about like a fucking brutal commitment to
- 10:51innocence, you know, like there's something perverted
- 10:54about it, you know, like it's so aggressive.
- 10:59It's like young Till I die, you know, like we did the Seven
- 11:02Seconds episode. They're fucking, they're
- 11:04committed, you know, And there was a few bands in the punk
- 11:09scene that would like challenge the scene, like what John was
- 11:14talking about. You know, they'll like fuck with
- 11:17the, like, they'll fuck with punks and be like, and basically
- 11:21be saying like, this is not what punk is.
- 11:24It's not macho. It's not aggressive.
- 11:28It's it's about something else, like the Butthole Surfers did
- 11:31that like there was there's a a few bands that really would like
- 11:36challenge the scene and fuck with people and beat happening
- 11:38was one of them. They were a disruptor.
- 11:40They were a provocateur and you know, it's giving mental illness
- 11:45at times, you know, like I'll definitely like, but it was like
- 11:49a homing signal for like 16 year old librarians in training, you
- 11:54know, like an army of horn, horn rimmed glasses, girls in horn
- 11:58rimmed glasses just came out of the woodwork and like really
- 12:01responded to them and I'm scoped to be doing this.
- 12:06It's like super fun. So obviously I there's nothing
- 12:13here for me like I there was. There's nothing I can say
- 12:17because this name never came across me like there was.
- 12:22I had no expectations. I had nothing other than the
- 12:25very few things that you guys had said in the chat leading up.
- 12:29But I will say some things that struck me seem like I had them
- 12:33in reverse. Cause one of the things I was
- 12:34going to come to the table with is that the low effort seemed to
- 12:38to be part of it. And it sounds to me like low
- 12:42effort wasn't the part of it. It was lack of ability was part
- 12:46of it, which I kind of respect more than low effort.
- 12:52Yeah. Like the, the, the fact that
- 12:55he's just bringing along people who couldn't play and it was
- 12:58just like, let's just go do this.
- 13:00That does change the narrative. That does change my view.
- 13:04You know, a hair on on what's going on here.
- 13:09That said it it does get a little low at points and we'll
- 13:14we'll cross that as as we get to it.
- 13:16There's not a lot here, John. Like again, this is one of those
- 13:19bands where you're pretty much like at the ready with with our
- 13:22main list. So talk to me like with a band
- 13:25like this, you know it. It isn't always like direct
- 13:29songs. I mean, I likened them get
- 13:33another band here in a row to to the frogs where it's like the
- 13:37where the frogs had the the talent, but they were they were
- 13:41being ridiculous. Whereas this band is almost the
- 13:45inverse. Is is picking 20 for this as
- 13:50easy as just I'm taking the best 20?
- 13:52Or is there another strategy to this?
- 13:57Yeah, I mean, it's they they were around for about 10 years.
- 14:02You know, they lasted until 92 and by that time they had like
- 14:08gotten a little more polished and like, you know, learned a
- 14:12little bit. The songs are a little more, you
- 14:14know, flushed out and they were doing, they were doing some
- 14:18different things musically. But yeah, it's just I just, I
- 14:23basically just went through like it's it's not a huge list.
- 14:26I think would 63 songs. So I had like maybe 5 that I
- 14:34knew that I was going to have on there like some of my favorites
- 14:37of theirs. And then they just going in
- 14:41through and trying to pick out like what I thought best
- 14:44represented them. It wasn't like I didn't have to
- 14:48do a lot of like reworking. I think as I was working up, I,
- 14:53I got to the last album and I think I had 17 or 18 and I was
- 14:59like, well this is perfect. So I just, you know, picked a
- 15:01couple off the last record and then I pretty much just went
- 15:03with it. It was.
- 15:04It was pretty quick and easy. So I don't know if this is
- 15:09something that you kind of already had your 20 ready to go,
- 15:14Gavin, or is this something you just made quick work of?
- 15:18I just made quick work of it gone put together a good list
- 15:22like I I had, you know, 3 or 4 songs that I love and I knew
- 15:26that I loved. It was fun to go back and like
- 15:30really concentrate on these records.
- 15:34I really love their last record the best from 92.
- 15:38Like John was saying, maybe that just them like or you like you
- 15:42were saying Justin getting that time, getting more proficient
- 15:45like works for me. But I think that's her most
- 15:50solid record. Yeah, it was fun.
- 15:53It was easy. I agree that the last record was
- 15:59easily my favorite and the one that I was able to like latch
- 16:04onto the most. But I will say this, if in doing
- 16:10this, this is one of those things where it's like you, you
- 16:13have to kind of even it out because you have to show the
- 16:17story. And if I just show their best
- 16:21record, which just happens to be the last one, I'm doing a
- 16:24disservice to what the band is and or was and where they came
- 16:28from. So like some of the cringe
- 16:31worthy stuff from early on, I I brought to the table, you know,
- 16:35like, I mean, a lot of the ones that I was just like, like you
- 16:40could tell there's something there.
- 16:42And it's just like, man, if there was just a little bit more
- 16:45thought and time put into this song, it would be really good.
- 16:49And I just that. Would defeat the purpose like
- 16:51that's not. What they're about exactly, You
- 16:53know, And I, I, I, I got that by the end of the first record, I
- 16:56was like, oh, that's why I said like, oh, the lack of the effort
- 16:59is part of the thing. So it's like, yeah, like I'm
- 17:04glad that I didn't just stick to the last record and then like
- 17:08kept a few from the earlier stuff because it felt like I
- 17:13needed some of everything to really represent the band.
- 17:17So I mean, that said John I this could ease this could either
- 17:26easily get out of hand. This feels like it could get out
- 17:29of hand either way. Like it could be just total
- 17:32annihilation 13 through, we're talking about making cuts, or it
- 17:36could be like we get nothing. So what do you think here?
- 17:41How do you think we do for the final say?
- 17:43Yeah. Well, again, this this panel
- 17:47with, with Gavin and I together, I think it's going to live up to
- 17:49its reputation again, where we come at these bands from a very
- 17:54different perspective. And we we have a hard time.
- 17:59Like the Venn diagram of, of us has a very small sliver in the
- 18:04middle, even though there are a lot of the same bands.
- 18:08So I'm not expecting us to get very many.
- 18:11I'm going to say 3. OK.
- 18:13Yeah, that seems right, we think, Gavin.
- 18:18Yeah, it's funny. Like there's a like the the Venn
- 18:22diagram of bands that John and I have is like just one purple
- 18:26like we like to see. I'm going to go 5.
- 18:31I think that we're going to pull some out of here that like rise
- 18:35to the top. Oh, boy.
- 18:37All right. Well, then I'll go the other
- 18:39way. I'm going to.
- 18:41I'm going to go with eight. I think it's possible.
- 18:44I don't think it's out of the out of the realm.
- 18:46I, I tend to lean towards where John is, but I, I, I don't think
- 18:52it's impossible that there was 8 songs that we are all like,
- 18:56yeah, I can get into that. And then, and then, you know,
- 18:59then it's only two left to fill out the list.
- 19:02So I'm going to go with eight. I'm going to, I'm to, to steal
- 19:06your thing over over the last year.
- 19:08I feel like the math kind of works for a higher pick.
- 19:12So I mean there's different reasons to like different songs.
- 19:16So like I, I like everybody's thought processes here, but I'm
- 19:20going to go high. All right.
- 19:21With that, we're going to take a quick pause and we will be right
- 19:24back. It's the programmed.
- 19:33And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
- 19:35The three of us have come through the Beat Happening
- 19:37discography and plucked out 20 songs that we're now going to
- 19:39mash together in an attempt to create a top ten circuit for
- 19:42you. In case you have never, like me,
- 19:46heard of Beat Happening, I'm going to go different here.
- 19:51Instead of doing the thing, I'm going to do a different thing
- 19:56where I I just genuinely loved this song and.
- 20:02I found myself singing it the next day and I was like, OK, so
- 20:07there's something to this. Maybe I'm alone, but I hope I'm
- 20:11not. How about bury the hammer?
- 20:15No, no. Oh, but I'm glad you like it.
- 20:22Oh. Yeah, No, we, we might be wrong
- 20:25on that. I think you're I like.
- 20:27You. Yeah, yeah.
- 20:29That's. The last on the last record.
- 20:32Yeah, yeah. It left me with a feeling that I
- 20:35didn't expect the feel for this band, so I forgot to copy the
- 20:44playlist. Hold on, make a copy.
- 20:48I'm doing stuff live into a microphone because I will not
- 20:53edit this beat happening, gets a one and is going to go into the
- 20:57bin. Come on, computer, bury the
- 21:07hammer. Just me.
- 21:14All right, John all. Right, I'm gonna go with the one
- 21:19that gets stuck in my head the most.
- 21:23The chorus. Like it?
- 21:25You wouldn't think that it would, but it's it's just an
- 21:28earworm. And I was singing it all day
- 21:30today. It's maybe their most popular
- 21:33song. How about Indian summer?
- 21:35Yeah. Oh yeah.
- 21:37All right, cool. That's such an amazing song and
- 21:41it a lot of people cover it, you know?
- 21:44Oh, really? Yeah, I have a cool record with
- 21:49Spectrum doing it like Sonic Boom from Basement 3 doing it
- 21:55really cool. And yeah, that's kind of a indie
- 21:58standard, you know? Yeah, all.
- 22:02Right. I love that song.
- 22:04I meant I meant to mention this in my like I can't take full
- 22:10credit for Indian Summer specifically, but I meant to
- 22:13mention this. I did balance my first pass
- 22:16against a top 20 list that I found and I was like, I have
- 22:22most of these. I'll just cut out a few other
- 22:26ones. Indian Summer happened to be one
- 22:27of them. So nice.
- 22:30All right, Gavin. I took a song off Jamboree where
- 22:38other is kind of doing a MO Tucker thing with like no music
- 22:41behind her. I took ask me.
- 22:44Oh, I actually really like that one, but I didn't keep it.
- 22:48Yeah, close, but didn't have room.
- 22:51I think that was one of my last ones.
- 22:53I like her songs though I have a few of them.
- 22:55Yeah, yeah, same. All right, we're background to
- 23:00me. How about I'll go to the top of
- 23:07my list? How about our secret?
- 23:11Yeah, Yep. Hey, how cool.
- 23:17Nice 1. I did that.
- 23:20I I like, I like the the first record on Spotify has all that
- 23:26extra stuff, you know, so I like separated it from the the
- 23:29regular record and then like the extras are all between 83 and 85
- 23:34and our secret, like the first one of those is really good.
- 23:37That's a great song all. Right.
- 23:43I there was so much that I forgot to do before.
- 23:46Usually I don't. Usually I'm a much more
- 23:49prepared, which is funny because you wouldn't know it.
- 23:52Well, this is perfect for beat happening.
- 23:55Yeah, exactly. It actually works out in my
- 23:57favor. So all right, our secret gets
- 24:00in. Boom boom boom, John all.
- 24:05Right, I'm going to go back to the last record and this song
- 24:13did. There was a a girl band of years
- 24:16later that took their name from it, I believe.
- 24:20Put out some records on OK as well.
- 24:21How about Tiger Trap? Yes.
- 24:23Yeah, yeah. Nice.
- 24:27There we go. Last record represent, I
- 24:30believe. Is that track one on that one?
- 24:33Yep. Yeah.
- 24:38Come on, I'll tell you what, this is going to be weird.
- 24:43But like when I went back to look at the list later and saw
- 24:47that this minute was or this song was 6 minutes and 53
- 24:50seconds, I was like, really? I didn't feel that way like.
- 24:55Usually not even the longest one on that.
- 24:57Album though, yeah, usually when something gets that long, I'm
- 25:01starting to get the OK, I get what's going on here.
- 25:04I just kind of fell into it. So that kind of really set the
- 25:08tone for what to expect on that last record.
- 25:12So Tiger Trap is in. I have to type all these guys
- 25:19felt I'm I'm sorry for being unprepared.
- 25:22Like like we said it, it actually makes sense in this
- 25:25instance, but still, all right, Tiger trap is in and Gavin.
- 25:32I forgot how much like they clearly like love the cramps.
- 25:38You know, they're like so much of I don't know, it just feels
- 25:43like young fans of the cramps or like and like maybe even like
- 25:49flies on sherbert, like Alex Chilton's like holy fucked up
- 25:52record after big star. You know, I took bad seeds too
- 26:00off the extras record. I like the I like bad seeds too,
- 26:03better than the regular bad seeds.
- 26:05Off beat happening. I was close.
- 26:11Yeah, no, I don't have it. I don't have a story either, but
- 26:15I feel like that's going to be a lot of that too here.
- 26:20I'm going to try to bend every song has no mods to be
- 26:24happening. Yeah, yeah.
- 26:30All right, I'm going to go to the last record.
- 26:32How about noise? Yeah.
- 26:37Hey. No all.
- 26:40Right. We'll take AT there.
- 26:42And that was. A good one.
- 26:43Yeah. I was listening to that one just
- 26:46as you logged in, Gavin. I was listening to it.
- 26:49I was like, Oh yeah, I'm glad I got that one.
- 26:53All right, John all. Right.
- 26:57How about midnight a go go? No.
- 27:03Can't save you friend, sorry. Jamboree.
- 27:09All right, Gavin. One of my all time favorite top
- 27:16three songs by then. I took Cast a Shadow off Black
- 27:19Candy. Yeah.
- 27:23Yep. Hey, nice cast a shadow runs a
- 27:28three boom and then let's get a clip here.
- 27:37Usually I only have to do one of these things at a time.
- 27:45I've made it so I've had to do like 3.
- 27:52All right, so we're back around to me, eh, The thing the the
- 28:01thing about this band is I don't feel like there's a groove I can
- 28:04settle into like an where I can find you guys.
- 28:08Like if this feels like it, just whatever man, whatever jumps out
- 28:12at me is what I'm going to play. How about?
- 28:22How about me untamed? No.
- 28:28No all. Right me untamed.
- 28:31Into the bin she goes. All right, John all.
- 28:39Right, I'll go with another one of their iconic songs.
- 28:43How about Hot Chocolate Boy? No.
- 28:46No. Oh, that's surprising.
- 28:50Yeah. OK.
- 28:54Well, everything about this is, yeah, the fact that we're doing
- 28:59it kinda is. All right, Gavin.
- 29:05I took their greatest song that we have to send to the best of
- 29:08the year. You guys take Christmas?
- 29:13No, I didn't know that. No.
- 29:18Fun. So awesome.
- 29:22All right, I don't know. How about foggy eyes?
- 29:34Yeah. Yes.
- 29:37Hey. That their first single I think
- 29:40it might be. I'm surprised that that's early.
- 29:45I think our secret was the first single.
- 29:47Right. The fact that yeah, you're right
- 29:50is a single is wild to me. It's in there were like there's
- 29:54a there's a bunch of tapes and like, right, yeah, who knows
- 29:58all. Right, 1-2 and three.
- 30:05What's that at? Puts us at 5:00.
- 30:08Yeah, and we blew right past my 3.
- 30:10Yeah, we got. A good, good little bit left
- 30:14here too. Maybe I'm not so crazy.
- 30:16Hey, all right, John. So Speaking of that first
- 30:22single, I took the B side. It's a Heather song.
- 30:25What's important? Yeah, yeah, cool.
- 30:30Yeah, a really cool song. All right, what's?
- 30:34You haven't, Justin. Yes, I did.
- 30:36Nice. And we're rocketing toward
- 30:40Justin's 8. Here I know it would be nice to
- 30:43go past it. We're still not out of NTP.
- 30:47We got nothing in a conversation.
- 30:49Yeah. We got noise.
- 30:51We got one, yeah. One song, yeah.
- 30:53Oh yeah, I got you. Yeah, you're right.
- 30:58But I know what I would pick if I do end up winning, so OK pour.
- 31:05Christmas out of the trash. For sure.
- 31:09Do a lyric search, people do a lyric search.
- 31:11That's all I can think. All right, let's see.
- 31:13So what's important is in and that one was John.
- 31:16So, Gavin. It took Cry for a Shadow off
- 31:20Dreamy. Yeah, 91.
- 31:22I got it. No all.
- 31:28Right cry for shadow man. I tell you, I'm really sometimes
- 31:38I'm not sure like how much the prep for the show, like the
- 31:41putting it into the the sheet ahead of time is helping me.
- 31:47I'm really realizing it right now.
- 31:52All right, how about TV Girl? Yeah.
- 32:04No. All right, TV, Come on, TV girl.
- 32:15It's a 2. And I think does that put us at
- 32:209 between two? Yeah.
- 32:24Yeah. All right, John.
- 32:32I I took the first version of run down the stairs.
- 32:37No, no. OK, Run down the stairs, Dash 1.
- 32:48All right, Gavin. When I was like in grad school
- 33:00and like writing fiction, I was getting an MFA at the University
- 33:06of Oregon. They were like, I had a teacher
- 33:08that was like, you don't wait for inspiration to happen to
- 33:14you. You show up at the same time
- 33:16every day at the desk to write and then you're there ready when
- 33:22it strikes and it beat happening.
- 33:25Reminds me of that. It's like, what if you didn't
- 33:28worry about talent, but you just refused to stop writing songs?
- 33:32And then sometimes you get lucky.
- 33:34Like, you know, a broken clock is right.
- 33:36Twice a day. I took fortune cookie prize off
- 33:40Dreamy. Yeah.
- 33:42I got it. No.
- 33:46All right, we'll take a two there Fortune.
- 33:50I think the NTP is officially out of plate now.
- 33:58One and one. All right, I'll go back to the
- 34:09beginning. How about Bewitched?
- 34:13No. No.
- 34:16All right. But that seems like a show they
- 34:18would love. Into the bin she goes, and John.
- 34:27All right, I took the the 9 minute song off of You Turn Me
- 34:32On. How about Godsend?
- 34:33Yeah. Yeah, it's so good.
- 34:37That's one of my like, top three songs by then.
- 34:40Nice. Did you take a Justin?
- 34:42I did, yes. Killer.
- 34:48Wow, wow, who would have guessed?
- 34:51I guess me sort. Of.
- 34:55I guess me. Hold on, let me queue it up
- 34:58here. Yeah, 9 1/2 minutes again.
- 35:02Who would have guessed that that wouldn't be a turn off in a, in
- 35:09a, on a band like this? You know, you would think the
- 35:14longer it goes on, the quicker you'd be out.
- 35:17Yeah, right. All right, so bets or or
- 35:23Godsend? Was John right?
- 35:26Yeah, yeah. All right, so Gavin, you're up.
- 35:29Yeah, like brevity is their friend.
- 35:31You know, you want to get in and get out quick.
- 35:34I took Heyday off the last record.
- 35:36Oh. Fuck, that was no, that was
- 35:42literally #21A. Good one.
- 35:46I love that one. I love that one that that's just
- 35:51me trying to play the game, trying to cover more stuff.
- 35:56All right, let's see what do we got here, 123456 Let's see one
- 36:01more round and then dump out. How about Knick knack?
- 36:11No. No.
- 36:13I chose wrong Knick pick Mac. All right, John.
- 36:26All right, how about revolution come and gone?
- 36:28No. Almost.
- 36:32That was late, late Cut and Gavin.
- 36:36That's a John. That's a John title we could
- 36:39have guessed. Yeah, that's true.
- 36:40Yeah. That's true.
- 36:42All right, Gavin. I took left behind off Dreamy.
- 36:48Nope. I got it.
- 36:54Oh cool. Left behind is A2 boom and boom
- 37:01all right. I think that's the first one
- 37:03that Gavin and I have had without Justin.
- 37:08Why is this not going through? I don't like this.
- 37:14I think it's because I didn't do.
- 37:18All right, that's fine. Let's shift this around real
- 37:23quick before I dump out just to see what we got here.
- 37:27OK. So, yeah, there's going to be
- 37:28some cuts to be had. And what are we at, 7123?
- 37:34Yes, 7. OK.
- 37:35I still got 8 left. Wow 12345 I've got 5 left so I'm
- 37:44going to type it in first Hangman.
- 37:48No. No.
- 37:51OK, other side. Yeah, of Black Key?
- 37:59No. OK take a two there other side 2
- 38:07collide. No, no all.
- 38:12Right. Red Hood walking.
- 38:22No. No.
- 38:24Red Hood walking. That's a people love that song.
- 38:30That's a big song for them. That didn't make my list.
- 38:36I feel like that was just confirmation bias.
- 38:38I saw it in the list and I was like, OK, yeah, I'm on the right
- 38:41path. And last but not least, teenage
- 38:44caveman. Yeah.
- 38:47No. Oh, almost.
- 38:53That's all right. We'll take that two there and
- 38:58boom, boom, boom. Let me shift that around.
- 39:00All right, John all. Right, I still have 8, so get
- 39:05ready. Wow, the fall.
- 39:09No. Youth.
- 39:12Yes, killer song. Early song.
- 39:16Yeah, 123. No.
- 39:21In between. No.
- 39:25Catwalk. No.
- 39:28Black candy. No.
- 39:31Pajama party in a haunted hive. No.
- 39:36And last but not least, ponytail.
- 39:40Yes. OK, we got a couple.
- 39:44Yeah, and what was the last one? Ponytail.
- 39:48Ponytail. A black candy.
- 39:50Great song and. Then we'll mark that as a 2.
- 39:55Last track so. Yeah, that's a John thing 11.
- 40:01You got to be pretty close to cleared out by now, right Gavin?
- 40:04I'm out. Oh, there you go.
- 40:05Perfect. All right, so we landed on 7, so
- 40:11I was almost right. Let me shift this around and
- 40:14we'll get to work here. Oh man, this is going to be way
- 40:18more difficult than it needs to be.
- 40:22Indian summer, our secret tiger trap cast a shadow foggy eyes.
- 40:27What's important and godsend are in all right, let me Scroll down
- 40:33a bit here. So the ones that have twos noise
- 40:37cry for a shadow. TV girl fortune cookie prize
- 40:40left behind other side, teenage caveman youth ponytail and
- 40:46that's it. I almost read Bury the Hammer,
- 40:48but that was the one. Is there one when I read those,
- 40:53John, that you're like, well, we need to have that?
- 41:02I'd say either left behind or ponytail.
- 41:08I mean, the real answer is hot chocolate boy, but you guys
- 41:10didn't have that one. So yeah, I'd say either one of
- 41:14those would be the next one I would go for, but I didn't have
- 41:18a lot of these that that's unusual.
- 41:20You guys were were dominating the twos so.
- 41:23Yeah. Do you have a preference to the
- 41:26between those two Gavin left behind?
- 41:29What was the other one? Left behind.
- 41:36No, I don't have a preference, but I'm looking at the split
- 41:43just for kicks. Yeah, so Ponytail is off black
- 41:52Candy and Left Behind is off Dreamy.
- 41:59We don't have anything off Dreamy, so let's take Left
- 42:01Behind all. Right.
- 42:03Yeah, that's fair. Yep.
- 42:05Even though it should be hot chocolate boy for.
- 42:07The record. All right, boom, that gives us
- 42:12up to 8. All right.
- 42:14So is there another one that's kind of jumping out at you from
- 42:19the other songs, Gavin? The one that the ones that you
- 42:21and I matched on? Maybe.
- 42:29Noise. If you turn me on, I.
- 42:33Mean obviously, obviously I'm, I'm on board.
- 42:36Is John on board is the question.
- 42:39Yeah, I can go for that. All right, so let's grab that.
- 42:43All right, now let's talk about this last song.
- 42:45I'll run these twos down one last go cry for a shadow TV girl
- 42:49fortune cookie prize. Other side, teenage caveman
- 42:53youth and ponytail. Is there one like that's really
- 42:59screaming out at this point, John, or are we just kind of
- 43:02Best Song available? I think we have a lot of the
- 43:06later stuff. I'd probably say youth who
- 43:09probably read about the best. Yeah, that's what I was going to
- 43:12say too. With it, boom, I was the odd man
- 43:15out there. Let's grab that shift this on up
- 43:20as #10 and I think 12345678910. Yes, OK, Indian summer, our
- 43:30secret tiger trap cast a shadow foggy eyes.
- 43:33What's important Godsend left behind noise and youth will
- 43:36round out our ten. I read those 10 down John I this
- 43:41one doesn't. I mean, is this easier than it
- 43:45seems in my brain? Yeah, I mean, I'm tempted to go
- 43:51with something like youth. It's like very juvenile and
- 43:56very, you know, early. But I mean, what are we doing
- 44:01here? It's Indian Summer.
- 44:02That's their, that's their song. Yeah, OK, good.
- 44:06Let's not. Yeah, let's not overthink it.
- 44:08Let's go with Indian Summer again.
- 44:10That one, we all agreed on it. It's one of their biggest songs.
- 44:15So Indian Summer it is not overthinking the room.
- 44:19Let me get that queued up, I'll read us down.
- 44:21The last go Indian summer, our secret tiger trap cast a shadow.
- 44:26Foggy eyes, what's important Godsend left behind noise and
- 44:30youth. And with that, let's let Indian
- 44:31Summer get a moment in the sun. Apple blossom just a.
- 44:38Boy, playing possum. We'll come back.
- 44:41You know, I noted this when I was listening to this song on
- 44:46the way, you know, doing my first pass and then earlier when
- 44:50I was listening to it. I wonder if I forget the name of
- 44:54the band. Is it MGMT, the wimp wimp?
- 45:00More on more on this later. More on this later.
- 45:02But it, it, it sounds like they may have sampled this.
- 45:06I'm going to have to look that up that.
- 45:07Oh cool. I think, I think that will be
- 45:10part of what's about to happen on the after the fact, which you
- 45:13can listen to by pledging a dollar amount at the
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