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🔥 William E. Simpson II on Wild Horses Preventing Wildfires, Environmental Crisis, Markets & Epstein Trafficking Networks | Michael Jaco · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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Hello everyone, it's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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Gonna be talking about WildHorse Management today, and it's
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a very interesting subject.
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Uh, William E. Simpson, the second has been living among and studying
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a herd of wild feral horses in the wilderness on the California side
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of the Oregon California border.
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Simpson is the founder and executive director of the WildHorse
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Fire Brigade, LLCA, WildHorse Advocacy and Management Group.
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In March, 2022, Siskiyou County officially recognized the ownership of the local herd
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of cultural heritage horses, as well as management authority over the local herd.
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So, Siskiyou, uh, county is, is doing amazing things.
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Uh, they're doing really good stuff with the, uh, you know, the voting process.
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I've had some of their people on talking about that.
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And here you are doing, uh, what I think everyone should be paying attention to
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having wild faroh horses graze the land so we don't have these crazy fires.
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Thanks for coming on, William.
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Hey, thank you for having me, Mike.
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I appreciate it.
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Yeah, this is, this is amazing.
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I mean, I was looking at some of your videos.
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We'll play a few of them.
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You know, just for reference, like, uh, back in the nineties $700 million
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worth of, uh, damage from wildfires, uh, and just recently 7 billion.
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And, uh, we need to, we need to come up with some solutions.
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It's really worse than that.
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Mike.
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Um, the UCLA study, which has been sequestered by who knows who somebody in
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the government doesn't want people to see.
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This an 11 year study by UCLA 11 year study.
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UCLA said that in their, during their study, 5,000 Californians a year
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died prematurely from wildfire smoke.
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And the, over the 11 years, the economic damage was $435 billion.
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Now anybody can find it.
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You just Google UCLA, wild death toll, wildfire, wildfire smoke,
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and you'll find that study.
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It's shocking.
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So what I, and that was just California, so I dropped it into a supercomputer
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and I said, please extrapolate this data across the Western United States, right?
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'cause we're all suffering from catastrophic fire and the deadly smoke.
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The supercomputer did the math, and it said that based on the
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UCLA data, and this is UCLA, this isn't some Mickey Mouse University
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somewhere in, you know, Romania.
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They said that the supercomputer said that we're looking at 36,000 Americans
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dead prematurely in the Western US alone, 36,000 dead prematurely.
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Men, women, children, nurses, doctors, pilots.
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Doesn't matter where you are, you could be a hundred miles away from the
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fire you breathe, the smoke you die.
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And then the damage from that is $218 billion a year.
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And so.
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The structural damages that you just cited, that the insurance companies and
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those were insured coverages are just the beginning of what this is costing us.
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You look at the lives, American lives, and then the computer told
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me also that it cannot correlate or calculate the comorbidities created
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by the toxins in the wildfire smoke.
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So what's happening is we have a collapsed herbivore in California.
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The deer and the elk are, are really way down.
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We're down some people say one and a half, maybe 2 million deer in
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California that are no longer here, that we're here 20, 30 years ago.
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Now what that means is we've got about 3 million tons of annual grass and
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brush that's no longer grazed in remote areas where you can't have livestock.
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We have all these remote areas and they're loaded with wolves, lions, bears,
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where I live, I have wolves, lions, bears mount, they eat horses, trust
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me, and they eat the deer and the elk.
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When you're in a position where you have that many million tons of cata
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of wildfire or wildfire fuel, I should say, you know, we're talking
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3 million tons just in California.
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What do you do about all that?
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You can't put livestock everywhere.
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'cause hey, when I was a rancher growing up, I didn't want, uh,
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the, the, uh, predators eating.
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My baby, my lambs and my calves.
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'cause I couldn't, you know, we couldn't pay the mortgage.
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Our family was poor.
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And so I had to ride around and, and shoot predators just so that
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we can make mortgage payments.
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And that was back in the sixties.
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I'm older now, so I'm 73 now, so I've lived a few lives and so we're looking
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at California and this collapsed debore is why we have the fire.
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It's not climate change.
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Climate does have an impact on the fuel.
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What it does is it drives it out sooner.
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Hold it, keeps it dry longer and any source of ignition is what sets it off.
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And of course, we can't control human behavior or the hand
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of God, lightning, anything.
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We can't control the fuel.
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And the way we do that is the US government now has the equivalent
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of, of FEMA camps or gi, state-based GMOs for these wild horses.
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They round 'em up, they brand them, they sterilize them, and then they put 'em in
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off range holding back in Oklahoma and Ohio and Indiana on failed cattle ranches
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that graze their ground to the dirt.
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All you have, all you have to have is a fence and you can get
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a BLM contract to hold them.
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So they put 'em in these contract holding facilities or
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prisons for horses basically.
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And then they charge all of us $150 million a year to fe to feed 'em.
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So it's like putting the fire department in jail during fire season and then having
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taxpayers pay for DoorDash or something.
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It's like, what?
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And, and it's a, it's ridiculous.
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And so our plan is simple wild horse fire brigade.
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We take the horses outta government holding.
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They're all sterilized.
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Put 'em into the deep wilderness where they're not gonna be in
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conflict with other, uh, economic interests on public land.
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I mean, let's face it, we gotta have gas, minerals and oil other,
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we're not, you know, how do you make America great again without materials?
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Right?
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And we need livestock.
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I, you know, everybody likes eating.
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97% of Americans eat meat.
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That's the fact.
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We need livestock.
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So our plan actually creates more grazing.
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We take the horses outta holding, put 'em in the wilderness, they
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mow that down and keep it clean.
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Yeah, they get eaten by the lions and the bears and everything.
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But guess what the modern horse that we see been here 2 million years,
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that's been going on a long time and that's why they're still here.
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Natural selection.
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The, you know, it's kinda like the Navy Seals the weak, ring
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out, the tough guys go forward.
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And the bottom line is these, what we see today, those are the guys who
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we're in, they're operators and I don't want to see 'em in jail out there.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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Uh, and I know in your area they, you know, some ranches like went
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under and they just let the horses go, go into the field and they're,
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they're, they got wild that way.
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Uh, but you guys are like raising them.
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You're taking 'em from different sources.
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Now, why are the, why are the deer in such a decline?
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What's going on with that?
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Let me just make a small correction here, Mike.
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First of all, our herd was seen in 1580 by Sir Francis Drake.
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The ancestors of our herd are post ice age survivors.
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Okay?
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They didn't go extinct.
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That's not true.
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They were seen by Drake.
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He was a military officer serving British Knight Elizabeth.
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Queen Elizabeth sent him up to Pacific Northwest 'cause she wanted this area.
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And so when they got to the Klamath River, there was a lot of gold in the
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Klamath River back then, and there's a lot of gold in the road river.
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And they spotted that and they go, aha, the indigenous must have golden idols.
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So they, 'cause that's what all everybody found on the East Coast, right?
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I mean, the Spaniards were running into all these
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indigenous, all these golden gems.
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So they went up the rivers and lo and behold, Drake's team saw horses
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living with the indigenous in 1580.
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Now that's just 88 years after Columbus first saw America.
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So there was no way any of them horses they brought to the East coast made
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it all the way out here in 88 years.
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Impossible.
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So these were, so our herd, yeah, there is a combination in feral is a term
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that's misunderstood by the public Mike.
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So I'm gonna make a quick explanation of feral.
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Okay?
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So feral, there's two kinds of feral.
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If I have a pet.
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Cat.
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And then I just let it go loose and I move away.
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And that's a ized cat then.
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Mm-hmm.
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But
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feral in terms of horse management has a whole different, it's
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a jurisdictional terminology.
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And so when a wild horse is standing on one of the herd management areas
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that President Nixon created, walks off of that area onto somebody else's
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property, depending on whose property they're standing on, they could
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either be unauthorized livestock.
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Okay.
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That's another term.
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Or they can be feral horses.
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And, and what that means, feral horse means without ownership, it has
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nothing to do with their genetics.
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See?
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And that's where people get it all confused.
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Yeah.
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Certainly the cavalry lets some horses go in this area.
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Fort Jones had Calvary and they were, you know, dealing with the
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Native Americans here at that time.
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But our herd, we see phenotypes that we know are ancient horse phenotypes.
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So that, anyway, saying that, so going back to your question can you
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hit me with that one more time, Mike?
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Yeah.
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That, that's a great explanation about, you know, how they're, you know, they've
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been here for millions of years, really, you know, this is pretty incredible.
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And deer why are we losing the deer?
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Deer?
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Yeah.
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What's going
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on?
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That, that was it.
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Thank you.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, and the West Coast, people like hunting.
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I used to hunt all the time.
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I had to hang up with my rifles 'cause I found out.
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Then in California we're down about one and a half million deer, roughly.
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It's so bad that California fish and wildlife really don't
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even do a real census anymore.
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Now it's the, it's an aggregate of, of things that are
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putting pressure on the herds.
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It's hunting, over harvesting.
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It's vehicular accidents because we have more roads and there's
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dead deer all over the place.
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Mm-hmm.
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And we also have problems with poaching and disease.
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So the aggregate of these things have really, and then these
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wildfires are killing a lot of herbivores, deer and elk too.
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So there's a phenomenal amount of pressure and the herds are collapsed.
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And then when you have a, of course, predators, those guys are bad boys.
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They're tough operators and predators, wolves, lion, bears, they don't go away
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so easy and they're gonna find a meal.
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So when you collapse their, you take all the food out of
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their refrigerator, guess what?
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They're coming to your house for dinner and they're gonna come
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down into the valleys and they're gonna find livestock to eat and
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all that other stuff that's there.
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So when you have, when you don't have enough prey animals you skew
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the relationship, the prey predator relationship changes, and it actually
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creates in increased unnatural pressure on the herbivores, the
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deer and the elk and the horses.
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So, having the BLM run around out here and the US Forest Service rounding up
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the last big herbivores, which by the way are the most beneficial herbivores,
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wild horses are the most beneficial herbivore because deer, elk, cows,
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sheep and goats are all are ruminants.
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And a ruminate has a multi chambered stomach, right?
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So when they eat seeded grasses and plants it, the food goes down The first.
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Chum chamber, and then they go lay down.
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They ruminate, they burp up the cud and they chew it over and over again.
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Well, that kills all the seeds.
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It crushes them.
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It's a mechanical damage issue.
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And then when they go through the rest of their digestive tract, the seeds that
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come out in their poop really don't grow.
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Very few seeds grow in the poop of herbivores.
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That's cows, sheep, goats, deer and elk.
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Now a horse has a stomach like us, and they're really bad digesters.
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So when you look at horse poop, and I do this, we studied, horse manure because
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you open it up and it looks like you can see branches and leaves intact.
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You can see seeds.
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And so Oregon State where I went to school, I was a pre-med science
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major, they did a study, it's called the German Ability, a Horse Dung.
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And they found, and I think they fed the horses like 230 different kinds of seeds,
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and they found out that roughly 90% of the seeds come out in their poop and grow.
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So horses, wild horses are farmers.
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They actually walk around and they plant horses, seeds, and they need
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the following year for themselves.
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So guess who benefits the deer, the elk, all the other critters that,
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that eat any kind of grass or brush.
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And then even the butterflies and the bees.
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'cause they need flowering plants.
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Right?
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Oh God.
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So the horse
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was highly that, that's another question I was gonna ask you.
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Uh, you know, why not, you know, have sheep or all?
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So now, now I see, uh, and you
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Yeah.
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I remember in one of the videos where they were saying that, uh, you know,
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around the trees and so forth, they're knocking off the, the low branches
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that helps for the fire problem.
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And they poop around them and the, the trees, you know, become more luscious
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and, uh, you know, ver very fertile.
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So, uh, it's a win-win situation with a, with the horses, God,
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this is, we gotta do this.
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It's like crazy.
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It's so easy.
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Well, you know, we did something that nobody in the world has done, Mike.
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We we watched what happened?
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We, you know, our horses grazed in a huge area up here.
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Big fire breaks, low fuel areas.
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And when we had a big fire, it's called the Klamath on fire, burned
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town of Hornbrook to the ground 38th.
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Thousand acre Windblown Monster.
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So I was the local knowledge advisor.
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'cause we had guys up here from Fresno, 600 miles away that, you
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know, it was a bad year at 2018.
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Fire guys were all over the place.
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So we got Fresno and a guy from, uh, down by you, in fact, uh, national Park
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Service, uh, Yosemite, the fire commander from there came up, his name was Randall.
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And they were actually up here looking at a map in the wilderness.
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Everybody was evacuated.
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I walked down to see how the fire was coming over the ridge, and I
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ran into 'em, the two pickup trucks with the tailgates down on a map.
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I kind of scared him a little bit.
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I walked up behind him and they go, oh, what are you hear?
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You're supposed to be evacuated?
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And I go, no, I'm not going anywhere.
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I grew up in these mountains.
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I know how to fight fire.
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I logged, I, you know, I'm not worried about it.
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And they go, oh, you live here?
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And I go, yeah.
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And they said, well, show us where we are on this map.
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And they were just lost.
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And I looked at the map and it wasn't their fault.
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The people that gave them the map.
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It had a bunch of fancy logos across the whole bottom, you know, US Forest,
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B-L-M-O-E-S, Siski County Sheriff, this, that, and I look at the map and they
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go, well, you're not even on the map.
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And they go, what?
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I go, yeah, you're below the logos here.
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The map starts at the Oregon border.
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It's three miles to the north.
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And they go, oh my goodness.
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And then I, and I'm looking at the map and I says, by the way, this map is not good.
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And they go, what do you mean?
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I says, well, there's a bunch of logging roads up here for you guys that need to
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know about if you wanna fight this fire.
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You're gonna need to infill a bunch of equipment and men.
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And if you don't know where the roads are, you're in trouble.
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There's no roads on your map that are up here and there's ranches
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up here that aren't even depicted.
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They go, what?
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And I go, yeah, I'm serious.
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And they say, oh, well we gotta get up there and prep 'em for fire.
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You're gonna have to be our local knowledge advisor.
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So I said, fine, I'll volunteer.
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Let's go, let's get, let's stop this fire.
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'cause I also knew where the fire breaks were that created
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by the horses, so mm-hmm.
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I was on the fire line nine days and I got lung damage and um,
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and the smoke killed my wife.
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So the toxins that killed them, 5,000 people that same year,
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5,000 other Californians died.
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She was one of 'em.
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And, and there's toxins in the smoke.
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It isn't PM 2.5.
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We, there's new science that just came out December of 25 from
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the American Chemical Society.
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There's VOCs that they didn't know were in the smoke.
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20 per 21% more VOCs, which are toxic organic compounds.
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And, um, so anyway, I was on the line nine days.
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I watched that fire get to the low fuel areas that the horses created.
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That's where we put it out when we saved a college town called Ashland, Oregon.
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And we saved the whole old growth forest up here.
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So hopefully we'll have some sustainable timber harvest in the future.
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I'd like to see logging come back, but, um, 'cause the timber
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industry is important in the Pacific Northwest, and if we're burning
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the forest to the ground, nobody's gonna get, it doesn't help anybody.
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And, uh, so we stopped it.
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And I, and here's the funny thing, Mike.
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Two months before that fire, Colorado College came down and did a
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graduate thesis film on my research.
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And I was filming right up there in one of the fire breaks over my shoulder
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where the horses grazing down the, this huge area, a thousand acre area.
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And everything I said in that film, two months before the fire came true, two
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months later during the actual fire.
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So nobody can argue with me anymore about this.
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So unfortunately, though I'm being suppressed.
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People don't want to hear about it 'cause they think I'm gonna
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break people's rice bowls.
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'cause so much money is being made in firefighting now.
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Yeah.
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Our town houses, firefighters, the ho hotels, restaurants and all that.
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And I'm going, okay guys, look, I get it, you're making money, but
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you're killing 5,000 Americans with this smoke in our state every year.
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We've gotta get into a prevention mode.
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Yes.
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Not a firefighting mode.
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That's af that's too late.
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Yeah.
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They need to transition into managing the land, uh, and then we won't have
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these crazy fires and people dying.
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Uh, wow.
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I'm sorry to hear about your wife William.
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That's, that's, that's crazy.
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That's very sad.
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Uh, so you're direct, uh, you know, unfortunate, uh, victim of,
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you know, this un land management that's going on right now.
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Yeah, I, I mean, I paid a price.
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We paid a heavy price for the knowledge we have today.
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I mean.
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We have knowledge now that nobody else has, you know, with my own eyes.
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The other thing that was blown me away, Mike, is the horses aren't afraid of fire.
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These wild horses.
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Here comes the fire.
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They're like, 50, 75 yards away from the oncoming flames.
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They're just grazed.
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And I got a picture of it.
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They're, I mean, it's, it's, I've been putting it in my articles.
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These guys are just head down grazing.
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And I got to thinking about that.
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I'm going, you know, they, they, they're, first of all, we have horse
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fossils up here, so they're grazing over the bones of their ancestors.
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Yeah.
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What could be more natural than that?
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And then on top of it, they when they're grazing they're still managing the fire,
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the fuel right in front of the fire.
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They'd occasionally look up and then look down.
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But they were here a million years ago when Mount Shasta was erupting.
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They were here when Tahoe was erupting.
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They were here when Crater Lake was erupting.
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They've seen lava, their ancestors have seen lava.
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And so, they're not like a a, you know, the horses, the Spaniards reintroduced,
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by the way, those are made in America.
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The horses that the Europeans brought back, those were made in America.
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They crossed over BIA a million years ago.
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All horses in the world originally evolved right here in North
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America 55 million years ago.
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Wow.
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And then the most, the most successful line was equi, cabals,
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the modern horse we all see today.
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A million years ago, when the landmass between Alaska and
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Siberia connected 'em together.
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Some of our horses went across into Eurasia.
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And then over that next million years that they were in Eurasia,
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they evolved into subspecies.
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That's how we got zebras polsky horses, konik horses, all these different
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horses with different characteristics.
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They had a chance to evolve in that new land, but in the
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meantime, they were still here.
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Right?
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And so, and then about 220,000 years ago, deer, elk, and bison
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came from Asia into North America.
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They're Asian immigrants.
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And so, you know, when, when people talk about, when President Nixon
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signed the 1971 free roaming Wild Horse and Burrow Protection Act,
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he was honoring American heritage.
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We built America off their backs.
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We fought wars off our horses' backs.
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Yeah.
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We owe them morally.
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We should salute them every year because there would be no civilization.
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There would be no America.
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There was no eagle in buggy.
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Right, Mike?
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Yeah.
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There was no eagle and buggy.
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It was horse and buggy.
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Absolutely.
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And, uh, you know, so we, we've gotta, if are we Americans or what, let's, we
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need to have a little bit of moral fiber and show a little loyalty to the, the
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animals that supported our livelihoods.
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Very good.
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William, let's watch a little, uh, clip that you gave me and, uh, get a little
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bit deeper in insight and we'll discuss
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The California nonprofit WildHorse Fire Brigade hopes to drive down those losses
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and mitigate catastrophic wildfires with its natural wildfire abatement
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and forest protection plan that relies on the help of an unlikely resource.
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Wildfires require three key ingredients, oxygen, fuel, and an ignition source.
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Wind does not fuel a fire.
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Fuel fuels the fire.
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In this case, we're talking about grass and brush.
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We cannot change the oxygen content of the air, nor can we control ignition sources
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such as lightning or human behavior.
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The one thing we can control are annually occurring grass and brush fuels using
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animals such as wild horses that eat grass and brush, also known as herbivores.
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In the western United States, we have a, a very well known collapse of the herbivore.
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We may be down as many as 3 million deer in California and Oregon is
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down approximately 500,000 deer.
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When you have a collapse of the herbivore, catastrophic wildfire
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revolves by reestablishing the herbivore.
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What we do is we start reducing these fuels and we devolve catastrophic fires
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being able to do vegetation control.
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On ground fuels, both at the individual property level and at
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the community level is the number one driver for decreasing risk.
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These big, robust animals, you know, weighing a thousand to 1200 pounds
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rub up against low hanging limbs.
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They call those fire ladders.
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They break 'em off.
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And so basically the tree is removed of all the low limbs and they remove
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the grass under the tree 'cause they're there under the tree resting.
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So they graze the grass and they fertilize the tree with their droppings.
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So these trees are made fire resilient.
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Today in the United States, we have 60,000 American wild horses that have
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been captured off the wilderness and put into taxpayer funded government holding.
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And we're feeding them the grass instead of leaving them where they're
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gonna do some good for societies, each wild horse will eat about 30
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pounds of grass and brush a day, about five and a half tons a year.
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In the last five years from the insurance industry perspective, the
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losses have not only doubled and tripled, but there are 10, 20, 50
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fold as high as they used to be.
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It used to average $700 million a year of losses in the nineties.
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Now the insurance industry pays on average 7 billion
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these wildfire.
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Yeah, and a lot more from what you're saying, William.
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So that's, uh, yeah, it's
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a lot
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what you're saying, 10 times more again than hundred times more.
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Jesus.
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Well.
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The cost in human blood.
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The Americans that are dying, these are little kids little baby boys and
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girls that are a couple years old.
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They breathe this in and then they develop a comorbidity and die when they're 20
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or 30, and they can't, the computer said it couldn't even compute that.
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And you know, we just know the pe like on my wife's death certificate, it says,
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you know, autoimmune neurodegenerative disease from wildfire smoke.
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Now we know about those people, but also the computer said we can't even begin
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to calculate the losses that come five, 10 years later from people who develop
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a comorbidity and don't die immediately.
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The human treasure, I mean, we're losing our families, our friends
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people, important pilots, nurses, people like you doing important
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work like this, we're losing them.
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They're, they just die.
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I mean, that has to stop.
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I don't care how much money these guys make fighting fire.
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They have to go flip burgers if they need to, but we can't be killing Americans.
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So a small group of people can make money that's gotta end.
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Yeah, I totally agree.
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And, uh, let me share that, uh, that one horse of nature.
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Award-winning documentary about how wild horses mitigate wildfire.
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So this is, uh, this is really, uh, good little bit of your information in here.
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So
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this fire broke out yesterday afternoon, the day after Independence Day.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Little download problem there, but, uh, yeah, it's goes on and talks about,
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uh, you know how this is very tragic.
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Very tragic.
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Indeed.
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It is.
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So that's, uh, that's one of those things that, you know, you have had experience
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with, uh, unfortunately, and you are, you know, warning all of us right now,
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uh, it's every year seems to get worse.
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I know in California, we're the only state right now in California, the
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first time in 25 years that we don't have drought anywhere in California.
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And uh, I promise you, there'll be fires this year.
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There'll be big fires.
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Oh yeah.
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Supposed to get another round of snow help, but, uh, it's the
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way it works here in California.
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It's like there's this group that, uh, seems to be, uh, maybe
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even making these fires happen.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Well, like I said, we can't control that.
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We, you know, like Marcus Aurelius says in meditations, don't worry
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about the things you can't change.
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Don't worry about the things you can't.
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And we can control fuel and nature does it best as she does it.
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You know, these herbivores, like up here where I am, my herd of horses,
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you know, I'm not worried about my place burning because I've got a,
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what I call a defensible landscape.
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A defensible space that the Cal fire tries to sell you on is useless.
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You know, you could go out a hundred feet, but when you have a, a hillside
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full of grass and brush next to you, the heat front from that fire with
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a wind on it is gonna incinerate your house from two, 300 feet away.
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The flames don't even need to get there.
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The heat front will just cause things to combust.
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Hmm.
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Um, now, I fought fire when I was a logger, and we never saw molten
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aluminum on the fire scenes.
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You've never seen a molten aluminum ladder, molten
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aluminum engine blocks or mags.
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Today, these fires are so hot as a function of fuel.
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You know, when your cabin gets cold, what do you do?
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You put more fuel in.
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It makes more energy, more heat.
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When you have all this grass and brush that's not mowed down in the
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wilderness the heat is abnormal.
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It is abnormal.
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It fire resilient trees, entire forest of trees that need fire.
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And we do need normal fire.
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I don't want to get misinform anybody here, we, you know, normal
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fire is important for a forest, but it doesn't destroy the forest.
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It burns low and slow into the trees, cleans the, the understory of the forest.
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It helps the reproductive cycle of the conifers 'cause
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it opens cones and does things.
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So the bottom line is when you lose your herbivore, that's managing
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the understory fuels in a forest.
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It burns abnormally hot.
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And we've seen this time and time again, an entire fire evolved.
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Forest trees that need fire dead, burn to the dirt.
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And that's an indication something is seriously wrong.
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And what it is, is the collapsed herbivore and the, I'm not saying WildHorse fire
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brigade is a silver bullet here, Mike.
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What I'm saying is, is a baby step to a successful re repopulation herbivores.
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We got 70,000 lawnmowers and I'm being stingy.
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I want 70,000 for California.
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I get it.
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Everybody's dying in Washington, Oregon and Idaho and Montana.
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Same problem.
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But.
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We gotta put these horses somewhere and California's
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getting hammered by these fires.
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People are being dead.
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I mean, if we put these horses here, we could do that right now.
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And guess what?
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We save 150 million a year.
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Trump should be all over the top of this, you know?
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But I agree.
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I'm being, I'm the gate.
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The gatekeepers are keeping me out right now.
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I'm fighting with the corrupt agencies that they like.
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They like the flow of cash the way it is.
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A lot of guys are getting envelopes full of money.
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These horses.
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How do American wild horses with brands on their neck, you can't miss mistake 'em.
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How are they ending up going to Mexico and being put in the meat grinder?
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Those are American assets.
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That's conversion.
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That's a federal crime, but people are the payola.
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You know, this has gotta stop.
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So we could put 'em out here and we will see a dent in these fires.
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These guys will put a dent.
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Now it's not the silver bullet.
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We still have to do something about deer and elk.
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And that's easy because guess what, Mike?
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In 1910, California issued a moratorium on deer hunting because
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the gold miners out here, they didn't wanna leave their claims.
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They were shooting all the game animals around their claims.
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And so we had a collapse in 1910.
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Wow.
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We went from 3 million deer in California to 500,000 deer in 1910.
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Well, the gov, the California government says, all right, that's it.
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No hunting sorry.
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1910, no hunting, no more deer hunting.
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It took, you know, I think it was like 10, 15 years, they brought
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the herd back up to 3 million, and then they let 'em hunt again.
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Well, guess what?
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Today we're below 400,000.
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We're even lower than the threshold that triggered it last time at 500.
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So 500 K was the trigger in 1910.
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Now we're below 400.
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We're not doing anything, and there's more pressure on the
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herds than there ever was before.
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So, this whole management paradigm, but the horses are the first step.
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We can do that immediately.
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President Trump could do an executive order.
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All those incarcerated American treasured horses are to be released.
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They're all sterilized, so they're not gonna interfere with any, they're
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not gonna breed or overpopulate.
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That's another myth.
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You put 'em out there in the deep wilderness and, uh, and these
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geldings, you can put pairs of two at a time, like on hills around you.
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They just, they don't breed or anything.
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They're, they're already gelded, so they're just big old boys.
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They just walk around and mow your lawn for free and trim your trees and then
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they go under a tree and take a nap.
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And they're beautiful landscape.
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I mean, talk about the best yard art you could hope for.
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Absolutely.
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You know, a treasure.
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Yeah.
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And then in the deep wilderness, you do want breeding herds
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because there's predators.
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And predators control population BLM lies through their teeth.
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Now I'm not being hard on the BLM, these are facts.
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Mike.
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They published a document to the US Congressman in 2018, a plan for
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managing wild horses and burrows.
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And on, I think it was paragraph two of page one of the executive
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summary, it said, wild horses have no natural predators.
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Now, that is an absolute lie.
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And whoever wrote that should go to prison because that's also a crime.
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Using public tax money to write a felonious statement and then presenting
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it to the Congress people, that's a crime.
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Now the thing is, is everything eats them.
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Been eating them for 2 million years.
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That's just a fact.
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And they say because of that, because of the lie, they claim that herds
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double every four years in size.
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So if you have a hundred horses in four years, it's 200 horses.
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So if you have 200 horses in four years, it's, you know, it's,
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it's 800 or 400 horses, so forth.
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Mm-hmm.
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So I've been here studying my herd of 200 since 2012.
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Now, according to the BLMI should have over 800 horses out here.
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I have 200 horses today.
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And the reason being is they're being eaten by mountain lions,
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bears, coyotes, and wve.
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Hmm.
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So I have a stable population because the predator's there.
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Why are they overpopulating in the areas where the government's managing them?
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It's because they shot all their natural predators so that the live, they got
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livestock commingled with wild horses.
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Nixon didn't plan on that.
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When he passed the act.
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President Nixon assigned 53 million acres for the horses, not for cattle
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and livestock, for the horses.
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It's in the 1971 Free roaming by Wild Horse Borough Protection Act.
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And they I understand those in those big areas.
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There's a lot of areas with livestock grazing on BLM land.
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Now the livestock guys don't wanna have their calves and lambs
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and stuff eaten by predators.
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So the USDA hunters come in and they're all shooters, right?
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And they just, then they, you know, get rid of the predators.
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Well, you've just killed all the predators that normally control the
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horse population that's co-mingled.
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So what happens?
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They do the same thing, the livestock do, they overpopulate?
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Well, livestock production is about overpopulation.
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So it's a man cause problem.
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It's not the horse.
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It is a man, it's a management problem.
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And what I say is, fine guys, move the horses out of those areas and
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let's put 'em where they do some good.
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But for taxpayers, and it's, I mean, it's a no brainer, Mike.
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I can't believe these people aren't all over the top of it.
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The insurance industry is, as you can see.
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Yeah, I, I spent a lot of time in the wilderness.
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I, I walked to Pacific Crest Trail you know, spent o over 2000 miles.
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I saw all the burned land back there.
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It is, it's disgusting.
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You know, they're not doing any land management back
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there just letting it burn.
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Uh, the, these horses would do incredible work back there and
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probably say that and make it, more people would like to go back there.
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And you know, the National Park lands are all burned too.
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So, we, we need this now.
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Get into California, make it, you know, work.
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Everybody can see it.
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How long will it take to, uh, you know, spread it to other states and how
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many states could actually use this?
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Well, I, I would start with, I'm just asking Siski County to support
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me and you mentioned Pacific Crest Trail, that is in the Six Rivers
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National Forest, by the way.
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That's a million acre US Forest.
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And we already have MOUs with livestock guys to graze on the edges of it where
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there ain't too many big predators.
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So they're already on the very outside edges of that, using
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livestock to graze fuels.
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And that, that's sensible.
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But in the deep part, like where you're talking about the burns.
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'cause there's no, no more deer out and elk out there to speak of.
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I mean, they're, they're really collapsed.
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We could put a thousand horses there.
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We can get 'em.
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And the, and some people will argue with me, well, bill, we don't
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have any law that lets us do that.
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Well, guess what?
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And if you ask the BLM is there any way we can do bill's plan and
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move horses into the wilderness?
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They, oh no, we, but right on their own website.
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If you Google BLM.
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Humane Transfer of Excess Animals Act.
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It's right on the M'S website that any government agency can ask for
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horses do BLM Humane Transfer of Excess Animals Act, and it'll bring
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up a page in low and lo and bold.
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It's right on the M'S Own website.
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They'll never tell you it's there.
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They, they lie by omission too.
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That's another way they lie to the American people is by omission.
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But, uh, yeah, I tell people, look, there is a law, it's a federal act.
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It's, it says in any government authority, a city, a town, a county,
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a state, can you go to the BLM and you say, Hey, I need 500 horses and I
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need 'em for wildfire fuel management.
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They gotta give them to you.
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And because under this act, Mike, what happens is you get the wild
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horse from the government and Yeah.
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That it's actually, you gotta go to the BBL m you gotta Google.
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Yeah, that's it.
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That is it.
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But if you go to, I wanna show how corrupt the BLM is.
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If you type in and Google BLM, you type in BLM Humane Transfer of Excess
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Animals Act in your, uh, search window.
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Yeah.
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See if I can get it back up here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Go to, yeah.
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That's
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right.
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There it is down there.
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See blm?
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Yeah, that one.
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There you go.
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Click on that one.
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Nope.
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Go down.
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Go down.
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Nope.
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Right there.
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The, with the green logo right there.
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Got it.
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Okay.
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Yeah, there you go.
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See that's right at the b LM site
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and the boroughs.
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Yep.
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And yeah, so here's what that says.
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It says that any government authority can request animals
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and they gotta give 'em to you.
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When you get 'em under this act, their designation changes
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from WildHorse to work animal.
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There's a change in title, another change in title.
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Right.
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And under the exclusion clause, the US Forest has, they can do anything they
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wanna do to prevent the forest from burning, including deploying work animals.
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Okay.
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So you get the horses and you drop 'em in six rivers and the boondocks
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out there, nobody will see 'em again except for the hikers on PCT.
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And they'll help reduce those fires in the toxic smoke.
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And we save $150 million a year
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easily.
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We don't have to feed 'em in a jail cell anymore.
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And then they get to live wild and free.
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You know, their freedom is important too.
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This is America.
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Freedom is important to everybody.
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And, and the Lakota nation
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considered the horses a nation of, of sentient beans.
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They call 'em the, the horse nation.
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The Lakota tribes beautiful.
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And because they respected them they, yeah.
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It was a beautiful relationship that they had with those horses.
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And there's no reason why Americans can't have that relationship again.
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Where the horses benefit our, you know, humankind again,
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because they helped us build the civilization around the whole world.
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You know, so I, this is just, I don't understand what the pushback is.
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We have the law that lets us do it.
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We just get an MOU with the forest service that we're putting work animals.
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They're sterilized.
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They're not gonna overpopulate.
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We can, we got 70,000 of them that are sterilized.
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Drop 'em out there, start mowing the lawn and they reseed it.
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And guess what that does?
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Remember all that burned land You saw Mike?
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Yeah.
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When you were hiking PCT.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, guess what?
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When it rains in the winter, all the mud comes down the sides of them
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hills and covers all the fish, eggs.
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All the salmon and steel had come swimming upright in the
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fall to, in late summer to spawn.
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And then the winter rains come and covers the eggs.
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Guess what happens?
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All those eggs die.
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They suffocate and then the fish are gone.
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And then everybody goes, oh, it must be the dams.
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No wrong.
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It wasn't the dams, it was the fires, but nobody's out there.
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This is what I do for a living.
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Now.
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I'm 73.
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I'm supposed to be retired.
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I'm working 120 hours a week trying to help people.
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I'm trying to save American lives, Mike.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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That's incredible.
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Now we do have, we do have, uh, you know, the youngsters now.
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Uh, you've had 'em up on your, uh, your property.
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These two ladies, uh, from, uh, Sacramento State.
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So they're, they're learning, you know, from you.
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And that's what we need in the future.
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We need to get more people involved like this.
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Uh, and then, we have the right to start bringing these
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animals and start to place them.
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'cause it's already in the law.
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It's in the law.
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So it's, uh, it's an easy fix.
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We just have to get people educated so that we can start moving on it.
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That's right.
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You're absolutely right, Mike.
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And we're on our third year with the fellowship program.
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We've had quite a few students come through.
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Those were our first students right there.
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And, um, they had an amazing experience up here.
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They went home and, and talked to people about what an, 'cause they didn't
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know anything about, they didn't even know we had American wild horses left.
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And when they came up here and saw, you can tell how they're completely
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different than domestic horses.
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They were blown away.
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And, uh, it was,
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yeah.
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Let's, let's play this little, little piece real quick.
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Dear Director, wild Horse Fire Brigade.
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We're here at our research site in, uh, the mountains of the Siski Cascades.
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And I'm here with the Sacramento, California State University of
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Sacramento students, uh, Shelby and Cice.
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And they're here for students in our fellowship program.
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And this is their first day was yesterday.
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So I just had a couple of questions.
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So Shelby, maybe you can tell us what you hope to achieve with your fellowship.
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I'm really excited to, um, learn more about naturally living horses and how
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they interact with their environment and excited to look at the population
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and start getting a better understanding of how they're living out here.
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Right on.
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And, uh, so we had a pretty interesting first day yesterday.
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Maybe you could tell us about that series.
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Yeah.
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Yesterday we were able to take a little hike on one of our first trails and
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you know, right around the plateau, a big big band of horses came running
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down about, I don't know, over 15.
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Um, they saw us and they had to change track, but that was pretty amazing
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to see them in action and yeah, so.
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Beautiful.
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Right on.
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Well, we really appreciate you choosing this fellowship program up here and, uh,
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we're hoping to continue the program and, and educate people about the value of
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wild horses on our American landscape.
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Boom.
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And you're doing it.
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You're doing it.
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It's amazing.
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So it does make a difference, uh, you know, educating people
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like you're doing right now.
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I've never heard of anything like this to me.
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Like you said, it's like so, so much common sense.
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It's like ridiculous.
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I can't believe that our, uh, BLM is not more involved with this.
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It is, it's pretty, pretty disgusting.
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But, you know, it's typical of, uh, government.
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Uh, they're not for the people anymore.
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Therefore themselves.
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So we need to change that and get involved.
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The only way we can change that, get involved.
41:03
Yeah, you're right.
41:04
You know, I was nominated to be on the National WildHorse
41:07
and Borough Advisory Board.
41:08
They called me up.
41:09
I got nominated by a sitting US congressman, uh, Greg Walden.
41:13
He was the head of the House Energy Commission.
41:15
And I got letters from all these people and, and they called me up and they
41:18
wanted me to be on the advisory board.
41:20
And, but that's when my wife was dying in a hospital up in Portland.
41:23
So I was driving from my ranch 400 miles up to uh, OHSU, where
41:29
she was in the hospital room.
41:30
So I spent a do a day at the ranch keeping everything glued together
41:33
and, and six days at her bedside.
41:36
And so I told him, I said, I can't take the position right now.
41:39
I, my wife is more important right now and I'm the last man standing for.
41:43
So, and I think that kind of made him angry.
41:46
Uh, I think, 'cause I turned down a job that everybody out there in the advocacy
41:50
would want and, um, to have influence over the bbl m but I, you know, I gotta
41:54
be loyal, you know, God, family and country, you know, I mean, the bottom
41:59
line is, is, is, you know, there I, and then they don't like me criticizing
42:03
them, but hey I believe that, I still believe this is a constitutional republic.
42:08
And part of our civic duty as citizens is to criticize the civil servants.
42:13
They work for us.
42:14
That's right.
42:14
We're not grapes to be squeezed.
42:16
We're not grapes to be squeezed by them.
42:19
They work for us.
42:20
And they need to remember that when they get elected, they need
42:23
to honor the oath they serve us.
42:27
And you know, so it's not government of the government by the
42:30
government and for the government.
42:31
That's not what it is.
42:33
And they need to that's gotta get fixed.
42:35
And, but, and the meantime, if we all die from wildfire smoke and it's
42:38
killing people on the East coast too.
42:40
I mean, that those numbers I gave you 36,000 debt every
42:43
year and 218 billion a year.
42:45
That's just the western us.
42:47
Wow.
42:47
I didn't want to make it so complex that the supercomputer couldn't handle it.
42:50
'cause even Washington, DC and further down, even Florida, got smoked
42:55
outta Canada LA a couple years ago.
42:57
Right.
42:57
That smoke from Canada.
42:58
We did.
42:59
Yep.
42:59
Yeah.
42:59
I mean, and all the way down.
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And people died.
43:02
They and what the reason it's dying is American Chemical Society just came out
43:07
with a big report in December of 2025.
43:09
And they said that there's, they've just discovered there's 21%
43:12
more volatile organic compounds.
43:14
VOCs, everybody hates VOCs.
43:17
Why?
43:17
Because we know it kills people.
43:19
VOCs are deadly.
43:20
That's beyond the PM 2.5.
43:22
So the bottom line is, is is the, we're a lot of people are dying.
43:26
We can fix this.
43:28
We gotta fix it.
43:29
You know, my mom said clean up your own bedroom before you worry
43:32
about anybody else's bedroom.
43:34
I believe that in our county.
43:35
Let's fix our county first and our state, and then we'll worry about the rest of it.
43:40
You know, we gotta, we gotta start somewhere.
43:43
And, um, this, it's all doable, Mike, and it, and it's cash positive.
43:47
I could save President Trump wants to save money.
43:50
Yeah.
43:50
President Trump, I can, I can save you $5 billion a year.
43:55
We can save a lot of those 36,000 people a year from dying.
43:59
Okay.
43:59
Not all of them.
44:00
'cause you know, we don't have enough horses to do the whole job yet, but
44:04
we can make that first step to saving lives and saving a lot of that money.
44:08
But we, this program will save 5 billion a year with a b
44:13
It would probably make that much or more actually, uh, because
44:17
I've been to, uh, yeah, it's cash.
44:19
I was on the trail.
44:19
I saw where they had tree farm, uh, and they were, you know
44:23
mm-hmm.
44:24
Hand managed and the trees were like magnificent nicely spaced.
44:29
And they were making lots of money.
44:31
You know, managing these trees were absolutely beautiful.
44:34
It was one of probably the most beautiful places I walked
44:36
through on the whole trail.
44:37
Well,
44:38
uh, and one of the ones that was managed by, uh, an independent, private group.
44:43
Well, you hit on something really important, Mike.
44:44
I'm glad you brought that up.
44:46
People are, they actually wanna start a new crypto based on carbon forests.
44:51
So during the fires last year, or the Slater fire there, I, I
44:55
look at whose land gets burned.
44:56
I study fire ecology.
44:58
There was a 5,000 acre forest that was owned by a big investment
45:01
company in Portland that was selling carbon credits to investors.
45:06
To offset Okay.
45:08
Carbon credits and wow, guess what?
45:11
The whole forest burned to the ground.
45:13
So what can you imagine the reversal of fortune on that
45:17
they gotta give back that money.
45:18
They no longer have those carbon credits.
45:20
It's like, you know, there's no basis anymore for, it's just became evaporated.
45:24
Not only
45:25
give it back, but so we could be an insurance
45:27
pay.
45:28
Yeah.
45:29
Uh, so it's crazy.
45:30
Well, we can protect those assets, you know, we could deploy groups of horses
45:35
around the carbon forest, the carbon credit forest, and actually prevent
45:38
those investments from going up in smoke.
45:41
Good point.
45:42
Good point.
45:43
And uh, I'm sure, you know, just like we're talking about those people wanna,
45:46
you know, keep their investment, uh, and that would be the great way to do it.
45:51
And, uh, the land management of course is, doing the trees right and so forth.
45:55
You probably, you know, uh, harvest the trees at some point,
45:59
uh, that would be very profitable.
46:00
Yep.
46:00
And then the, the animals would come back and, you know, you could, hunters
46:05
come back and, pay a price to go in.
46:07
There's, there's places down in Texas where they, pay a
46:09
lot of money to go, uh, hunt.
46:10
So, uh, there's a lot of, lot of positive things that can come out of that.
46:14
So yeah, this is the step forward.
46:16
We need to do it.
46:17
Yep.
46:18
Yeah.
46:19
I, I believe it's true.
46:20
And I, I got, you know, I got grandkids.
46:22
I want them to see the America that I enjoyed growing up.
46:25
I don't want them to see the whole west burn to the ground.
46:28
You know, we are burning forests faster than they're recovering.
46:32
And at this rate in just a mere 30 years, forest will be a, a thing of the past.
46:38
You know, you drive through dunsmere not far from you.
46:41
Yeah.
46:41
And you look at that, they're basically charcoal poles standing.
46:45
That was a gorgeous forest at one point.
46:48
Yep.
46:48
And that's what's happening in America.
46:51
This same around
46:53
God.
46:53
It was got burned bad a couple years ago.
46:57
Yep.
46:58
Uh, yeah, it's, it's, yep.
46:59
And we just have to, I mean, you can't, you can't get AmeriCorps
47:03
out there with weed eaters.
47:04
I mean, we're talking 20 million acres in California, and when you prescribe
47:08
burn, here's the other thing, Mike.
47:10
They're trying to sell us unprescribed burning now.
47:12
Well, when you have prodigious fuel, the, oh, I was gonna
47:15
tell you about pyro chemistry.
47:16
When you have all this fuel that's not grazed anymore, it burns abnormally hot.
47:20
Well, what it's doing, it's producing brand new chemistry.
47:24
Okay.
47:24
When you heat certain chemicals like terpenes for instance, that are in
47:28
plants, when you heat 'em at like 800, 900 degrees, normal forest
47:31
temperature, forest fire temperature you get certain resulting compounds.
47:35
But when.
47:36
Start heating them up around 1500.
47:38
We've seen molten aluminum, so we know the fires are that hot or more.
47:41
Mm-hmm.
47:41
You get brand new compounds formed and these scientists are going, man, we
47:45
don't even know what these things are.
47:46
They're in the, they're carcinogens.
47:47
We know they're VOCs.
47:49
And that's what the American Chemical Society, the brand new study from
47:52
December of 2025 says 21% more VOCs.
47:56
And we don't even know they're in the classic car, uh, carcinogens.
48:00
So the thing is, is when you do prescribe burn on landscape with
48:03
prodigious fuel, what happens?
48:04
You make more toxic smoke.
48:07
You're not, you're making the problem worse in the, you know, in the winter
48:10
when we need just a little, we get a breath of fresh air in the winter.
48:13
Right.
48:14
Well, they're out there making more toxic smoke because you can't
48:16
do burns on prodigious fuels.
48:19
And even the RMPs, the range management plans for these big forests,
48:23
they have a brand new RMP for the Cascade Siski National Monument.
48:26
And they had to do that 'cause Obama added a whole bunch of land.
48:29
So they had to do a brand new range management plan and Right in their
48:32
own write in, in their own literature, they say all these different areas,
48:36
oh, we gotta, we gotta do understory fuel management, but we can't do
48:40
prescribed burning until we do mechanical management to reduce the fuel load
48:45
so it doesn't damage the landscape.
48:48
It's in writing in their own plans that they can't even engage prescribed fire.
48:54
'cause it will damage the landscape because of exothermic energy.
48:58
You know, we've got to start managing the herbivore and,
49:03
and I'm, and I mean everything.
49:04
I mean, cattle in the right spot, sheep in the right spot.
49:07
Goats around airports and industrial areas.
49:10
But then horses in the remote areas where, you know, where their predators live.
49:13
And guess what that does?
49:14
It pulls predators out of the ag lands.
49:16
If you've got enough horses on the other side of a hill where wolves are eating
49:20
livestock and ranchers are like going okay, and they put, deterrents on the
49:24
wolves, they'll go eat the baby horses.
49:26
'cause it's easy.
49:27
Pickens, you know, up here I get 45, 50 babies every year.
49:32
Only about six or eight become two year olds because they're the predators.
49:37
Get 'em.
49:38
Yeah.
49:39
Wow.
49:39
And, and then the big horses the lions and the bears kill the big ones.
49:42
And uh, and mountain lions could kill an dull horse.
49:44
Easy.
49:46
Wow.
49:46
And, um, and they do, there's a study from, uh, the University of, in fact,
49:50
Utah, that, uh, they looked at, uh, the mountain lions on the Great basin.
49:55
60% of their diet is wild horses.
49:59
Huh?
49:59
So much for the bms.
50:01
Nothing eats 'em.
50:01
Right?
50:03
Yeah.
50:04
I mean, the lies are so deep.
50:06
That's reason
50:07
I love to have the wild horses out there in the, in the wild because, uh, when I
50:10
walked the trail, there was a. Mountain lion that had a, uh, was out there.
50:14
And I think I had a close, close encounter with it.
50:17
And, uh, then I, I got to the next town and they talk about how there was
50:20
this wild mountain lion and people had spotted it and, be careful out there.
50:24
And I was like, Ooh.
50:25
So yeah, I would, I rather than looking for me or other hikers.
50:30
So, and that's sometimes what they do.
50:32
They take out,
50:34
they do, if you take all the food outta their refrigerator, they're
50:37
gonna find a meal somewhere else.
50:39
And lately we've been seeing people being killed by lions
50:41
here in California, a couple of brothers got attacked down by you.
50:46
One brother died.
50:47
The lion was feasting on them.
50:49
The other brother was valiant.
50:50
He tried to fight, but he was injured and he had to escape with,
50:53
barely escape with his own life.
50:55
But his, his brother was killed by the lion.
50:58
Wow.
50:59
Oh my God.
51:00
That's sad.
51:02
Wow.
51:03
William, great.
51:04
Great.
51:04
Uh, Intel, great inflammation.
51:06
Uh, it's, you know, we did take down these, these bad government agencies or
51:11
overcome them somehow and get those horses out there where they, well, we, yeah.
51:16
Yeah.
51:17
Well, we need we need help, Mike.
51:18
I mean, I'm working 120 hours.
51:20
I don't get paid.
51:21
We're an all volunteer nonprofit organization, wild Horse Fire Brigade.
51:25
I've been working my tail off for the last 12 years up here, Mike.
51:29
We're, if we don't get donations and support, we actually fund the
51:33
whole Cal State program up here.
51:35
We're on our third year.
51:36
We fund that out of our donations.
51:38
Those kids, and a lot of them are underprivileged.
51:40
We take care of gasoline and we buy food.
51:43
They stay here two weeks with the herd.
51:45
And it's, we call it the good old method because when you wake up with the horses
51:49
and they're all around you, you get to see things that nobody has seen before, okay?
51:54
Mm-hmm.
51:54
And that's how Jane Goodall saw the Apes making and using tools.
51:58
She, she became part of the troop.
52:00
She was embedded, right?
52:02
Well, I became embedded with this herd, and I've already documented all
52:06
kinds of things about what we gotta do.
52:09
And the thing is, is to make the program successful.
52:11
Thank you, Mike.
52:12
That's our, uh, PayPal account.
52:14
And, uh, it makes it easy for people to donate.
52:16
They just go to our website, hit donate, it brings that screen up, and
52:19
they can donate using any credit card.
52:22
But, we're helping kids.
52:23
We're funding the programs out of, we don't tax, we don't
52:27
use any tax dollars for this.
52:30
We let people decide if they wanna support the reduction of deadly
52:33
wildfire and toxic smoke and help kids learn about American heritage.
52:38
These.
52:39
These are our heritage horses.
52:40
We believe that the future generations of Americans should be able to see
52:45
these special animals that help build our civilization in America.
52:50
And our herd is unique because we have unique genetics that are still intact.
52:55
Some of those gene lines came all the way down from Drake.
52:57
Not all of 'em, but some of 'em, you know, there were some cavalry horses that got in
53:01
and did a little breeding here and there.
53:02
And we're calling those out with, uh, we're doing genetic
53:05
studies, so we're gonna try to keep the genetics pure, you know?
53:10
And, um, but, uh, yeah, we're if it wasn't for generosity of donors, we
53:14
wouldn't be here today, you know?
53:16
And, and I just, we gotta be successful.
53:19
We gotta do this, Mike.
53:21
Yeah.
53:21
And so I call upon people if people will, will help us with a generous donation.
53:27
We can make this happen and save probably at least thousands of
53:31
lives a year, just initially and billions of dollars for sure.
53:35
You know, and then cookie cutter it into other states, you know, before the
53:39
horses are all genetically sterilized.
53:41
'cause the B is rounding them up.
53:44
Yeah.
53:45
Yeah, I'll definitely, uh, donate.
53:46
I, hopefully, hopefully everybody's listening.
53:48
We'll donate and, you know, share this show and, uh, we'll share it on my other
53:52
platforms and, uh, get this out there.
53:54
Uh, yeah, this is definitely a worthy cause.
53:57
Uh, the, uh, you know, the government, you know, like we
54:00
talked about is not working for us.
54:01
It's working against us.
54:03
We need to change that, we gotta do it.
54:05
So, uh, they're gonna continue to do stupid until we tell them otherwise.
54:09
And we gotta get aggressive with it.
54:11
Uh, this is one of the programs that is, that actually works.
54:14
It's very simple, very easy, and we can make it, uh, you know, make it
54:17
start to make a difference out there.
54:19
I look forward to seeing those horses out there.
54:22
I appreciate it, Mike, and I really appreciate your time and
54:25
getting me in so quick on the show.
54:26
It's been you're a officer and a gentleman.
54:30
Thank you, sir. Yeah, it's, uh, it's a worthy cause.
54:32
William thank you.
54:33
Uh, you look a lot younger.
54:35
You look like my age 65, so good job.
54:37
No,
54:38
Dan Young.
54:38
Well, I've been, I've been sharing breath with stallions.
54:41
I don't know if it gives you extra life.
54:43
The wild stallions they come up with the breath of God in 'em, you know,
54:47
they're, they're God's creations and they still commune with God
54:50
on top of the mountain, I believe.
54:52
Yep.
54:53
That's fantastic.
54:54
Yeah.
54:54
I love that.
54:56
All right, William, thanks so much and, uh, we look forward to, I'd love to have
54:59
you back on in the future and we can talk a little bit more, de more in debt detail.
55:02
Hopefully maybe I get out there and, uh, you know, do some video with you out
55:06
there and, uh, you can show us around and
55:08
love.
55:09
That'll be even better.
55:11
Love to have you and, and, and your sweetheart come up here and, and
55:14
we'll get a picture of you next to a, a wild Mountain stallion
55:18
that's breathing the breath of God.
55:19
I mean, you'll feel it.
55:21
You will, when these guys are, are nature's operators, boy, and, and
55:25
you can, they have a presence, boy.
55:28
And but anybody with me, they think they're with my family.
55:31
'cause they're family oriented the way they look at the world.
55:33
And somebody with me, they say, oh, Bill's got a new family, let's go meet 'em.
55:37
And that's how they look at it.
55:38
They're completely wild.
55:39
But Uhhuh they know, that's how they look at the world.
55:42
You can't evaluate horses using human value propositions.
55:47
You have to learn how they look at the world.
55:49
And that's what we've done.
55:50
So that's why we can make this work.
55:52
We know how to manage wild horses.
55:54
Nobody else has done this.
55:55
We're the only ones in the whole world that live with a wild herd
55:58
and have done all this work.
56:00
Yeah.
56:00
Fantastic.
56:02
All right, sir. Thanks so much.
56:04
And, uh, like I said, we look forward to, uh, doing more with you in the future.
56:09
Thank you, sir.
56:12
Right, man, that was, that was fantastic.
56:14
Show, uh, with William.
56:16
Uh, I hope you guys, uh, donate.
56:17
'cause I, I'm definitely, I'm gonna make it a monthly donation,
56:20
so we gotta get this done, uh, and get, uh, get this moving forward.
56:24
So, uh, you know that there's a lot of stuff going on.
56:27
The, the silver market you know, took a, took a nose dive and we, uh.
56:32
We su, I don't say we suffered through it.
56:34
We just, we just have a better opportunity, uh, moving forward,
56:38
uh, with silver at a lower price.
56:41
Uh, so I'm gonna talk about that.
56:43
I'm gonna talk about Jeffrey Epstein.
56:45
Uh, Jeffrey Epstein.
56:46
Everybody's focus on the sex part.
56:49
There's a lot more going on with Jeffrey Epstein than just the sex part.
56:53
All these guys do this sex thing.
56:55
They have it on each other.
56:56
Uh, they'll just dime each other out if they get outta line.
56:59
That's all that is.
57:00
Uh, there's a lot more involved with Jeffrey Epstein, and
57:04
we're gonna dive into that.
57:06
So, much more to to go into.
57:09
So don't leave yet.
57:11
Uh, let's, let's talk about some, uh, some amazing things.
57:14
Uh, your money, uh, your wealth, uh, so that you can donate to,
57:18
uh, save the horses and have them, you know, manage the land.
57:21
So we don't die from smoking inhalation.
57:24
Uh, wow.
57:26
Unbelievable.
57:27
Tens of thousands of people dying every year from that smoking inhalation.
57:30
They, boy, we're not hearing that, are we?
57:32
Gosh, uh, there's a lot of things we're not hearing.
57:35
Uh, and, uh, one of those is, black budgets, uh, that's being stolen.
57:41
Uh, we're gonna talk a little bit about that.
57:43
And, but first, let's look at, uh, what happened to, uh, the
57:47
markets over the last week.
57:50
Uh, they, they took a little dive.
57:52
Uh, they worked off a little overbought.
57:55
Situations that was going on, but we're in the point where we're oversold.
58:01
So I'm gonna show you what happens with oversold.
58:05
So you look at the Nasdaq on, um, Friday, uh, you see throughout the week you
58:10
basically just went down, down, down.
58:12
And then and it was, what was pushing us down was Bitcoin.
58:16
Bitcoin was diving and the market wanted to go up.
58:20
Uh, but Bitcoin was going down and it was dragging down the re the regular market.
58:25
What happened on Thursday night and early Friday morning, Bitcoin turned around.
58:31
So Bitcoin was dragging the market down.
58:33
And when Bitcoin turned around aggressively and started going up, the
58:36
market responded on Friday massively.
58:40
So now we have a Dow Jones Industrial average over 50,000.
58:44
So this is the hourly, uh, it gapped up, you know, how I feel about gaps.
58:49
Those gaps gotta be filled at some point, but for now, it's basically,
58:54
you know, up it gapped up and you see that big, uh, candle there.
58:59
That's a God candle.
59:00
And it just went,
59:02
oh,
59:03
it went up big and then it just kept going up all day long.
59:07
So if you were long on the stock market during the timeframe, good for you.
59:12
I was short the stock market you know, for the week.
59:15
I made nice money during the week.
59:18
Uh, but I was short still on a Friday morning, and I had
59:22
to reverse that very quickly.
59:24
Uh, good thing I did because the market went up massively.
59:26
And I made nice, you know, money on that.
59:30
Now, these are not things that I can tell you because when I watch this,
59:34
these markets can turn on a dime like they did on Friday morning.
59:38
So I, I can't just come out and say, yeah, you need to be in this.
59:41
Yeah, I'm intuitive.
59:42
I kind of figured this was gonna happen when I saw the market moving, but I, I
59:46
can't come out and tell you guys this because I will put you in jeopardy, right?
59:51
So you have to do your own research, you have to do your own stuff.
59:53
But this is a market right now that's gonna, I believe, continue to go up.
59:58
It'll have some pullbacks, but it's gonna continue to go up.
1:00:00
Uh, I got massively oversold.
1:00:02
There was a lot of fear.
1:00:04
Whenever that happens, the market usually turns and goes up aggressively,
1:00:08
like you're seeing right there.
1:00:10
So, the Dow the Nasdaq and the s and p all went up all day long, right?
1:00:19
Uh, so now Bitcoin also, uh, as you see here, it fell, fell, fell.
1:00:27
Now that's, I think that's, uh, that's hourly.
1:00:31
So Bitcoin trades, I'm gonna have to go for the, for the daily to say,
1:00:35
because Bitcoin trades 24 hours a day.
1:00:38
All right.
1:00:39
So yeah, now you get to see, uh, what that looked like all week.
1:00:44
So that was a sea of red all week long.
1:00:48
And then here it is on a Friday morning and it just went up and it kept going up.
1:00:55
And now today, as you see, it's starting to reverse a little bit, starting to
1:00:58
bleed off a little bit of that, uh, massive energy where it went from, uh,
1:01:04
uh, down from 60 all the way up to 72.
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So, uh, it went down 10,000 and then it went back up 10,000, right?
1:01:13
So that's some volatility.
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I can't tell you, get in, get out, get in, get out.
1:01:16
You know?
1:01:17
'cause that'd have to be, you know, in your ear all day long.
1:01:20
So obviously that's not gonna happen.
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But what can happen for you is silver.
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Now, silver, uh, as you guys see did I don't know.
1:01:31
So we have a God candle for when it's green it goes up.
1:01:34
So I guess this would be a devil candle, right?
1:01:36
So the devil candle, basically, uh, you know, hammered that was just incredible.
1:01:43
Probably never happened before in history for the silver price.
1:01:47
But what I'm gonna show you now, and for gold, right?
1:01:50
Gold wasn't quite as volatile, uh, as you see here, it's building a base and it's
1:01:56
getting ready to take back off again.
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Uh, and what ma, what leads me to believe that that's gonna happen?
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Let me show you, right?
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So, as you guys know that I'm not only do I look at, you know, what's
1:02:09
going on, you know, what's driving the silver price, what's driving the gold
1:02:13
price and the economy and so forth.
1:02:16
You know, silver demand is through the roof.
1:02:18
For the last four years, there's not been enough, uh,
1:02:22
mine silver to meet the demand.
1:02:24
So it's been reduced, reduced, reduced, right?
1:02:27
So now it's getting reduced on a massive scale 'cause everybody's waking up to it.
1:02:31
Uh, we've been saying for years it's time to get into silver.
1:02:35
Now people are going, it's time to get into silver.
1:02:37
So what do you think's gonna happen?
1:02:39
Uh, the demand.
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You think it's like, uh, funky town.
1:02:43
Funky town right now.
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It's gonna get really funky town you know, going forward.
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'cause everybody's gonna want it.
1:02:50
All right?
1:02:50
So let's look at the gold futures as you see here.
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Uh, basically they drop down.
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Uh, this is the bubble bubble report.
1:02:57
I highly recommend this.
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Uh, I'm not gonna always show this, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna help promote
1:03:02
his stuff 'cause he is, he's got really good, uh, technicals, right?
1:03:05
Really good and good commentary.
1:03:08
Uh, so here it is.
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Basically it's reaching this little zone right here, 43 to 4,600.
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Uh, and as you see here, it's getting ready to go above 5,000.
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Again, it's building a nice base right at 5,000.
1:03:21
Uh, and it's gonna go to new all time highs.
1:03:24
Alright?
1:03:25
Now what leads me to believe this, as you see here.
1:03:28
See that oversold condition.
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Now look at this oversold condition, and the market went down because it was
1:03:37
overbought, and then it went to oversold.
1:03:40
And then look what happened.
1:03:41
Woo.
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Yeah, it went up Bigly.
1:03:45
All right, so over here, over overbought, as you see right there.
1:03:51
And then it went oversold, and then it went whoop.
1:03:53
And then boom.
1:03:54
So every time it gets oversold, it really takes off, right?
1:04:00
And when it gets oversold aggressively like it had did here, it really moves.
1:04:05
So imagine that that is the move right there, that is coming, right?
1:04:10
So that's 43 to about 55, 56.
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So we're probably gonna see that and maybe even more going forward.
1:04:20
So that's gonna put us up, up around the, uh, 65, 66, uh, level.
1:04:26
So that'll be a very aggressive move in gold and silver.
1:04:31
Same thing.
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70 80 support zone as you see here.
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And as you see, it's building a base around 88 90.
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So that $90 level, it's building a base to move up to a hundred.
1:04:42
Now we need to build a base here at a hundred.
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'cause you see here, there's really not a lot of activity
1:04:47
here, like you see here and here.
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Down here.
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All these are, you know, where it bases out.
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It's like building, taking a board, and uh, you put it on a piling to
1:05:00
make a pier and you extend it out and you don't put any support out there.
1:05:05
And it ends up being like a, a springboard, uh, and you go out to
1:05:09
the end of it and you're gonna sink.
1:05:11
So if you keep building bases, you can keep extending that pier out and go, in
1:05:17
this case higher and higher and higher.
1:05:18
So that's what we're doing here.
1:05:19
So that's the technical aspect of that.
1:05:21
Now, look at this oversold, oh my god, that is, I don't think we've ever had
1:05:30
an overs soul condition that deep.
1:05:33
So what that means is the next move up for silver is gonna probably take
1:05:38
us to the 250 to $300 guys, right?
1:05:42
Uh, so, that's what's coming, right?
1:05:44
That's my prediction.
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Uh, it'll probably come by June, so it's gonna continue to move up platinum.
1:05:51
Uh, the same situation, a pretty significant, like you see here dip well
1:05:57
into the oversold and then it boom, right?
1:06:00
So we did the same thing here.
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Uh, and this is, to me, this an even more aggressive oversoul condition.
1:06:07
So this move and platinum is probably gonna take it, three to 4,000 or more.
1:06:13
We'll see.
1:06:13
All right.
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So, uh, that's it for, uh, for the market for precious metals.
1:06:19
Now other ones that I would like to, you let me do the, uh, minors.
1:06:24
So I was in a lot of different minors just to be have my diversification.
1:06:29
I like the junior minor.
1:06:32
So I moved out of the miners, uh, all of them.
1:06:37
And this market turned down 'cause I saw it coming and,
1:06:40
uh, I invested it into options.
1:06:43
And the options did exceptionally well, like I thought they would.
1:06:46
And so then I turned it over into my silver junior and got over
1:06:52
three times many ETFs, right?
1:06:55
So et f shares.
1:06:56
So, uh, I got three times as many shares as I have before, and a had a lot.
1:07:00
Right now I got a lot more.
1:07:02
And, uh, it is just, you know, learning how to move in and outta the markets.
1:07:06
For me, I probably am not going to move around the markets like that anymore.
1:07:09
I don't think that's gonna come.
1:07:10
That opportunity's gonna come for a little bit, right?
1:07:14
Uh, I thought that that could be the, the big one, uh, but it didn't turn out to be.
1:07:19
So we're probably gonna see, like, they keep saying this market
1:07:22
go a little bit higher, right?
1:07:24
The stock market's gonna go higher.
1:07:26
Gold and silver and platinum and PA are all gonna go higher with it.
1:07:30
A lot higher, right?
1:07:33
So it's gonna be, uh, a very good opportunity to increase,
1:07:36
uh, your wealth and so forth.
1:07:38
So the silver, uh, bull market, we're in the beginning stages of it.
1:07:44
Uh, I know a lot of you guys, you know, get very anxious because you don't you
1:07:47
think it's supposed to go up all the time.
1:07:49
Uh, that's not the way markets work, right?
1:07:52
So, uh, we got the, we got a pullback and now we're going to see a very ag
1:07:57
a very aggressive up upswing, right?
1:08:01
That's my thoughts.
1:08:03
I'm not an investing advisor, so, but I've gotten a lot of things right?
1:08:06
So, you know, just be, keep watching that.
1:08:09
You, crypto guys and gals, I guess they're gonna pump that crypto back up.
1:08:15
'cause crypto goes down, the market goes down.
1:08:17
I think they'll want that market to go up now.
1:08:19
So, uh, we'll probably see crypto go up and if, but watch it.
1:08:24
If it starts to, uh, can again, like it's doing right now, starting to pull,
1:08:28
I think it's just a little bit of a pullback, uh, after aggressively going up.
1:08:32
If it does start to aggressively go down again, then you're gonna have to get ready
1:08:37
to, I don't know, protect yourself, right?
1:08:40
So, and however that is, that's what that is for you, right?
1:08:44
All right.
1:08:45
So.
1:08:47
Let's go into, uh, Jeffrey, Jeff, Jeffrey Epstein, right?
1:08:53
Everybody's like all excited about, you know, all of the
1:08:57
information that's coming out.
1:08:59
It's like, oh, look, looky, you know, who was fooling around
1:09:02
with who and who did what?
1:09:04
And, uh, these sexual perverts and, child molesting and
1:09:09
pedophilia and blah, blah, blah.
1:09:11
All right?
1:09:11
So, and that's the way I think of it now, because there's much more to this.
1:09:15
I've been talking about child pedophilia for frigging over five years, and
1:09:20
some people are just now catching on.
1:09:23
Come on.
1:09:24
And now that people are starting to catch on, it is time for something more, right?
1:09:29
And I'm gonna show you what's more, right?
1:09:32
Uh, so there's a lot more, you know, how all this money is being
1:09:37
laundered by these Democrats.
1:09:39
There's probably some Republicans as well in the cities.
1:09:43
Where's all that money going?
1:09:45
Where's all that money going?
1:09:47
All right?
1:09:47
To fund different things to fund a rogue breakaway civilization.
1:09:55
Uh, so we're gonna watch Danny Jones had a podcast and we're gonna see Catherine
1:10:02
Fitz basically tell us about $21 trillion.
1:10:06
Black budget is funding a rogue breakaway civilization, which is making all these.
1:10:12
These aircraft that everybody sees, and it's like, look at our UFO.
1:10:15
No, that's, uh, a black budget aircraft, that the breakaway civilization
1:10:20
has, uh, has designed and they have hundreds of deep underground
1:10:26
military bases, uh, on and on and on.
1:10:29
So let's, let's look at, uh, what Catherine sch Fitz has to say.
1:10:34
And, uh, on the Danny Jones.
1:10:35
So show, she's been on a lot of shows, uh, lately.
1:10:38
She's really, uh, giving a lot of this information out.
1:10:41
So doing a great job,
1:10:44
money started to going missing from the treasury and the federal government, the
1:10:48
offshore haven started to just balloon, so this is going down and this is going up.
1:10:54
And, um, anyway, but, but I have tried to unpack where the money's gone and what
1:10:59
they've been spending on and, you know, I have a lot of guesses, but if, what's your
1:11:03
best guess?
1:11:05
I think it's many different things.
1:11:07
The first thing I think you've been financing a new system, so I call it the
1:11:12
breakaway civilization, but I think you've literally been financing a new system.
1:11:17
And it's like when you're running a company and you, you keep the old
1:11:20
systems going and you get the new systems up and you bring the resources over
1:11:24
steadily, and then at some point you're,
1:11:26
so we see billions, 90, a hundred, 120, whatever, billion coming
1:11:31
out of, uh, Minneapolis, right?
1:11:33
Whatever that's gonna be, whatever that number's gonna be.
1:11:35
And that's one state.
1:11:37
We're gonna see over a trillion coming out of, uh, California.
1:11:40
Probably a trillion coming out of New York.
1:11:42
Probably a trillion coming out of Chicago Illinois and other
1:11:45
states, other blue states.
1:11:47
'cause they're all on board.
1:11:48
They're the ones that are managing, uh, this money steal.
1:11:52
And this money still is going into these black budget pro projects
1:11:57
ready to bring this down.
1:11:58
And I used to say the pandemic was the breakaways breaking
1:12:01
back in and taking over.
1:12:03
But I think they've moved a lot of money out.
1:12:06
And in theory, if you look at how much has been stolen, it's enough to run a
1:12:10
global government on an endowment basis.
1:12:13
It is
1:12:14
how much, roughly total has been stolen.
1:12:17
So as of 19.
1:12:18
As of two.
1:12:19
Alright.
1:12:20
So as everyone is focused on the sexual manipulations of Jeffrey Epstein and,
1:12:29
uh, you know, all the other people that have been doing all this stuff for a
1:12:32
long time Hugh Hepner and who's the one guy, uh, the, the Black Repper, whatever.
1:12:40
Uh, all these guys have been doing this for a while and they don't bat
1:12:45
an eye at, uh, you know, going to jail or, you know, uh, whatever they know
1:12:51
they're gonna be taken care of guys 'cause of this breakaway civilization.
1:12:54
They'll go, they'll go to jail for, uh, you know, 5, 10, 15, 20 decades, whatever.
1:13:00
Uh, 'cause they know they're gonna be taken care of in the jail and then when
1:13:03
they get out, so they're gonna get hooked up on, on the outside, on a massive,
1:13:09
so this is not stopping, we're not really doing much by, revealing that.
1:13:15
Uh, prince Andrew had, you know, sex with underage probably several women, right?
1:13:21
Girls.
1:13:23
All right.
1:13:23
Everybody's focus on that and his life's destroyed.
1:13:25
But he's like, yes yes, Lucifer destroy my life so that everybody
1:13:31
else can move on and we can continue the breakaway civilization.
1:13:35
He keeps stealing from the useful idiots, right?
1:13:38
So, uh, this is something that is much bigger.
1:13:41
Guys.
1:13:42
2015, there was 21 trillion in undocument adjustments, but that's not cash.
1:13:49
And it could reflect money coming in.
1:13:51
So you could be bringing money in from the war zone.
1:13:53
So how much is net missing?
1:13:55
You know, it's impossible to tell, but given everything, I would be amazed if
1:14:01
it wasn't at least that much missing.
1:14:05
So.
1:14:07
You see, uh, Danny Jones is like, what?
1:14:11
And, uh, you know, for me, having seen this, you know, seeing the budgets in
1:14:15
the CIE, seeing the budgets in, uh, you know, these black projects that
1:14:19
I've seen, seeing the money that's going into, uh, these wars that go
1:14:23
on for decades and decades in the Middle East, uh, and the trillions of
1:14:28
dollars that go into these, these wars that basically gets funneled out into
1:14:33
this rogue breakaway civilization.
1:14:36
Now what I think you've been doing is you've been making enormous investments
1:14:40
in black budget technology, right.
1:14:42
And infrastructure.
1:14:43
You know, so I think, I think you've got a huge physical infrastructure.
1:14:48
Some of it, when you did nine 11, you were able to move a lot
1:14:52
more black budget on budget.
1:14:54
And so that sort of eased the pain because the problem with black budget as of nine
1:14:59
11 was to get that money, you had to tell, you know, it was, it, it had gotten,
1:15:04
the fraud had gotten so dysfunctional.
1:15:06
All right.
1:15:07
You know, we've heard these stories about these, uh, deep underground military
1:15:10
bases, dumps that are being destroyed, and the human trafficking that's
1:15:15
involved in those being, taken down.
1:15:18
And yes, I believe that's happening on a certain, uh, basis.
1:15:22
But that's a distraction too, guys.
1:15:24
The number of bases they have.
1:15:27
Are staggering and we're gonna, we're gonna find out here in a minute.
1:15:31
And wasteful, so you, you wanted to do more on budget, but uh, you know, whether
1:15:35
it's, it's building a new governance system and a new endowment to run it,
1:15:41
or invisible weaponry, secret weaponry.
1:15:44
Mm-hmm.
1:15:44
Secret space program.
1:15:46
The infrastructure underground to
1:15:48
invisible weaponry.
1:15:49
You mean like the clean Gone Ships where they cloak themselves?
1:15:54
Uh, yeah.
1:15:56
Platform that, I think it's all those things.
1:15:59
One of the theories that has been bouncing around in, in my head from recent
1:16:04
guests that I've had on is that military contractors have been taking money from
1:16:14
the US government and from the Pentagon to develop futuristic weaponry develop
1:16:20
new physics, alternative propulsion.
1:16:24
Absolutely.
1:16:25
Absolutely crafts
1:16:25
that have some sort of alternative
1:16:27
propulsion
1:16:27
systems.
1:16:28
Absolutely.
1:16:30
Absolutely.
1:16:31
Absolutely.
1:16:31
Absolutely.
1:16:33
I've seen it.
1:16:33
Yes, it's being done.
1:16:35
Now I remember when I was deeply involved with it I could step and I
1:16:41
did step away for several years and I came back and the, uh, 'cause I would
1:16:47
go, I would be deployed, do something for like six months and come back.
1:16:51
And the level of the, uh, new technology that was there, uh, waiting for us
1:16:56
to, uh, start to use and uh, work with was like another major step forward
1:17:04
guys every six months, sometimes less.
1:17:08
So I've been out of that system for well over a decade now.
1:17:13
Uh, and I could, I can tell you the stuff that's out there when I was
1:17:18
there was like beyond belief, right?
1:17:21
Beyond belief.
1:17:22
And I know there's other people that were involved in other projects that
1:17:26
were, the Sheika space program stuff.
1:17:30
I have memories of that, uh, I've talked about that.
1:17:33
But their budgets are being funded by this fraud that's going on in these cities by
1:17:40
the taxation, uh, that's stolen from us.
1:17:43
All of these things are funding this breakaway rogue civilization.
1:17:50
Alright, so let's look at, uh, Jeffrey Epstein.
1:17:53
Because he's part of, he was part of that.
1:17:55
He helped fund a lot of that.
1:17:57
So he, he was a financier of these black budget projects for things like COVID, uh,
1:18:07
bio weaponry the high technologies stuff working with the, uh, the negative aliens.
1:18:15
All of this stuff is part of their program guys.
1:18:20
Uh, and we're not part of it.
1:18:22
We're not part of it at all.
1:18:23
We, we don't benefit from it virtually at all, but we damn sure pay for most of it.
1:18:29
Right.
1:18:31
So that starts Rockefeller.
1:18:33
Its university f formed by John d Rockefeller to sort of give back to
1:18:38
the community east side of Manhattan.
1:18:41
Except it was old.
1:18:43
It was old fashioned.
1:18:44
They were talking about medicine.
1:18:47
They were talking about medicine, right?
1:18:51
So this was an interview that he did with Steve Bannon many, many years ago, right?
1:18:57
Uh, when he was, still free.
1:18:59
But he, uh, I mean, look at the guy.
1:19:01
Listen to the, excuse me.
1:19:03
Listen to the guy.
1:19:04
If you didn't know his background.
1:19:06
If you didn't know his past and he was introduced to you as a
1:19:11
financier of big budget products, projects that help humanity, right?
1:19:18
You would be impressed and you would listen to him because all of these guys,
1:19:24
all of them, they can compartmentalize.
1:19:28
They can show you a certain face.
1:19:31
And I've seen a lot of them over my years.
1:19:36
I've been around a lot of these people, guys.
1:19:39
Not Jeffrey Epstein, but yes, I've seen Hillary Clinton.
1:19:44
Yes, I've seen a lot of people that I know now and knew back
1:19:47
then were very bad people.
1:19:50
Alright?
1:19:51
So you see them.
1:19:54
Uh, I, I remember seeing Bill Clinton, I was right, right next to, I was right
1:19:57
next to Bill Clinton in a security detail.
1:20:00
Uh, and, uh, he was talking and he was very charming.
1:20:05
He was a handsome guy.
1:20:06
You know, I was like, guy, he seems like a nice guy, but I knew that he was bad.
1:20:12
Uh, and, but they have, they will present a certain face to
1:20:17
you and they have many faces.
1:20:21
Some of them are very dark, some of them are very dangerous, right?
1:20:27
And sometimes.
1:20:28
You see them shift, you see their reptilian side, right?
1:20:34
Look at him, listen to him.
1:20:35
He just sounds like, you know, just some dude.
1:20:40
But we know this guy is a very bad man, but he managed a lot of stuff.
1:20:47
He was a financier, uh, like a mafia guy, and truly pretty much is, uh, that came
1:20:55
in and funded many different projects.
1:20:58
Now everybody's like, oh, he was all in charge of Jeffrey
1:21:01
Epstein Island, blah, blah, blah.
1:21:03
They all do that.
1:21:05
They all do that.
1:21:08
All of them, right?
1:21:10
They'll tell you otherwise until they get caught, and then they'll
1:21:13
deny until they go to jail.
1:21:15
And then they'll, they'll be sorry for, but until then, they'll deny, they'll
1:21:21
lie, they'll cheat, they'll steal.
1:21:23
'cause that's part of what they do to us, because we're useful idiots.
1:21:31
And we don't matter.
1:21:33
We don't matter to them.
1:21:35
They have an agenda.
1:21:37
They're luciferians and some Satanists who are very dark.
1:21:42
But this guy right here is a Luciferian and so is Clintons and all of those guys
1:21:50
at the top, they're luciferians guys.
1:21:54
It's for me, it's not a tough pill to swallow.
1:21:58
I can talk about it very easily, very comfortably, because
1:22:01
I've seen it most of my life.
1:22:04
I've seen these people, I know how they are.
1:22:08
And medicine by itself was again, subject to the ideas of science.
1:22:13
They were trying to find, use science to find cures for disease.
1:22:18
And I said, no, we need to do something different.
1:22:21
We need to start interdisciplinary work in most.
1:22:26
How did a schmuck like you get on the board of Rockefeller?
1:22:29
What year was that?
1:22:30
I don't remember.
1:22:31
Late, I think 89 or 91.
1:22:33
So that's some, one of the most prestigious research
1:22:35
places in the world, correct?
1:22:36
Yes.
1:22:37
Okay.
1:22:37
How did a guy like you get on the board of Rock, a blue blood,
1:22:41
internationally known hard research, Nobel Prize, Warners all over the place.
1:22:46
How did they pick a, a, a guy like you, a trader from, or basically
1:22:51
some guy from Bear Stearns?
1:22:53
Good question.
1:22:54
So I was asked to be on the board of Rockefeller, and I think it was right.
1:22:58
I was on the board of Rockefeller.
1:22:59
There was a money manager who said, Rockefeller needs someone
1:23:04
with financial expertise because the university is growing.
1:23:08
All right.
1:23:09
So he's an expert in his field moving money, right?
1:23:14
Moving money that has probably for the most part.
1:23:18
Been stolen.
1:23:20
So he moves this money around and he makes it work so that these guys can
1:23:25
take this stolen laundered money, however it is, uh, and do what
1:23:29
they do, the projects they want.
1:23:31
Do the COVID, the, imagine all the money that was spent beforehand, years and
1:23:37
years and years of developing, right?
1:23:40
Uh, and then they started to do their whatever, 2021 and they had that one
1:23:46
meeting, and they're just, they're pretty much showing us what's coming.
1:23:49
'cause that's what they have to do.
1:23:51
Because, uh, like Craig Lund said, you know, he's in the technology field.
1:23:55
Uh, he was very experienced, very good.
1:23:57
And they used him, he used his energy just like they used Jeffrey
1:24:01
Epstein's energy for their ends.
1:24:05
You know, they're all involved in their, satanic and Luciferian craft.
1:24:10
And they need people to do the things that they need 'em to do, right?
1:24:15
'cause they're out there doing their, I don't know, their sacrifices
1:24:18
and whatever the hell else they do, you know, dro, whatever.
1:24:21
Uh, and they need people like Jeffrey Epstein to run
1:24:25
the business side of things.
1:24:26
And they trust them and they bring them in, develop them, and
1:24:29
then they do that side of things.
1:24:31
They have many people that do that, right?
1:24:34
Many people that will, go to the parties and, you know, have all the,
1:24:39
you know, eyes wide shut type stuff.
1:24:41
And, uh, it's all fun and games until, they see a baby tortured
1:24:45
and killed and romme and eaten and then they're like, oh, I'm out.
1:24:50
And then, uh, no, you don't leave.
1:24:53
You don't leave.
1:24:54
We will hunt you.
1:24:56
We will destroy you.
1:24:57
And gosh, I was in the CIA and they destroyed my life and hunted me.
1:25:03
It's like, uh, you know, any aspect of this system that you
1:25:09
expose and they will come for you.
1:25:12
They will come for you.
1:25:14
And, uh, you know, this is some of the things that a lot of people
1:25:18
unfortunately they don't live very long, uh, exposing this stuff.
1:25:22
'cause they have all the money, all the power and control
1:25:28
everybody virtually, right?
1:25:30
So this is where we need to start to understand this
1:25:34
on a bigger picture, right?
1:25:36
It's not like, you know, there's a little sex scheme going on and
1:25:40
they use that to control people.
1:25:42
No, that's bullshit.
1:25:43
It's bullshit.
1:25:44
It's much, much bigger.
1:25:48
And there's lots of new things.
1:25:50
You have to, again, we go back to the, the original discussion the last
1:25:53
time in, up until the mid eighties or sort of early se, mid seventies, the
1:25:59
most important thing was your name.
1:26:01
If you were a Rockefeller, you already were considered to be brilliant.
1:26:04
If you were head of General Motors, it was your reputation.
1:26:07
It was who you knew who your family was, what was your character.
1:26:13
And then in the mid seventies, basically, if you remember,
1:26:16
you probably had a calculator.
1:26:19
It was very advanced in those days to have a Texas,
1:26:22
so it just seems like just a, you know, very smart guy and, you know, but he's,
1:26:27
he's running the finances for the, the most brutal people on the planet.
1:26:34
Planet.
1:26:35
Extremely brutal, right?
1:26:37
Psychopaths.
1:26:39
He works with psychopaths and uh, and he is one, right?
1:26:44
So the facade that you're seeing, right there is a facade that
1:26:48
any one of them can put forward.
1:26:50
They're trained like that from children.
1:26:54
How to have all these little compartments where they have all these different
1:26:58
players in these compartments and whichever one they need for whatever,
1:27:04
you know, situation they're in.
1:27:06
That comes out, right?
1:27:09
That comes out.
1:27:11
And that's what you just saw there were Jeffrey Epstein.
1:27:13
So there's another compartment of him basically raping underage girls, right?
1:27:19
Uh, we know that's, that's part of what he was about.
1:27:22
And that's what they all do.
1:27:26
They all do that.
1:27:29
Now.
1:27:29
He talked about the Santa Fe institute.
1:27:33
The Santa Fe Institute.
1:27:36
Uh, lemme share the screen.
1:27:37
Santa Fe Institute is an independent, he was financing it, so he talked about it.
1:27:45
And it's in Santa Fe, Santa Fe Institute.
1:27:49
It's in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
1:27:54
This is very key New Mexico.
1:27:58
There's a lot of things going on in New Mexico, right?
1:28:01
Now, you know, we know, excuse me.
1:28:03
We know that Jeffrey Epstein had a ranch in New Mexico that
1:28:07
had over a thousand acres on it.
1:28:11
Now there's all kinds of things that are going on in New Mexico, and I'm
1:28:15
just gonna, I'm just gonna start bringing 'em all out to your attention.
1:28:19
'cause we got the full gamut of stuff going on in San, in New Mexico.
1:28:25
I've, I spent a lot of time in New Mexico when I was in the military
1:28:29
and White Sands, uh, there's underground bases in, uh, New Mexico.
1:28:35
Mag Lab trains, uh, they dissect aliens, all kinds of
1:28:39
stuff under New Mexico, right?
1:28:43
So we're gonna go into a little bit of that.
1:28:44
But right here he helped fund the Santa Bay Institute.
1:28:50
And, they have basically breakaway, scientists, uh, that are involved in
1:28:56
a lot of probably bad things, alright?
1:29:01
Uh, so they, they broke away and they have fundamental principles of
1:29:05
complex adaptive symptoms, systems including physical, computational,
1:29:11
biological, and social systems.
1:29:16
Social systems, uh, like Facebook, social systems, like,
1:29:21
the old, uh, or what is it now?
1:29:23
X, right?
1:29:24
The old Twitter, the little bird, the mucking bird, right?
1:29:28
So they've had these systems and they ha and they control these
1:29:31
systems and is Musk, uh, one of them?
1:29:34
Yes.
1:29:36
Right?
1:29:37
Of course he is.
1:29:38
But is he.
1:29:41
Seemingly on a good guy's side right now.
1:29:43
Yes.
1:29:44
Right.
1:29:45
But he is definitely one of the, one of them, uh, the billionaires
1:29:50
don't make it up there guys with all the other billionaires that
1:29:52
are bad unless they allow it.
1:29:55
So some, something is given, something is taken.
1:30:00
Uh, but that's the way these guys get up to that level.
1:30:04
Uh, so, and I know you're, what you're thinking, even President Trump,
1:30:11
right?
1:30:12
Yeah.
1:30:13
Whatever.
1:30:14
Uh, so let's look at, uh, Zoro Ranch.
1:30:19
There's a lot of stuff out there on that.
1:30:21
So you have to be your own judge.
1:30:23
Now I, I'm looking at, at things, president Trump does
1:30:26
get things done, and then some things he doesn't get done right.
1:30:31
You know, we've, we've seen some things that he's done.
1:30:34
We haven't seen a lot of arrest.
1:30:36
Remember he came into office.
1:30:37
He was gonna drain the swamp.
1:30:38
The swamp has still not been drained.
1:30:40
He said that when he came into office this time that he would stop the,
1:30:43
uh, Russia, Ukraine War on day one.
1:30:45
It's still going on.
1:30:46
And his last you know, time, uh, before he came into office, he said
1:30:51
that when he came in the office, the guy that basically helped us find
1:30:54
Osama Bin Laden, the Doctor Afridi he would have him freed within two days.
1:31:00
Dr. Afridi is still in jail.
1:31:03
We have, uh, other issues that are going on.
1:31:06
We have up to 20, 25,000 people that probably have
1:31:09
been killed in Iran right now.
1:31:12
And they thought that, you know, president Trump was gonna come and help them, right?
1:31:17
So, uh, and maybe he will, I don't know, but how many more are gonna die?
1:31:21
I don't know, guys.
1:31:22
But there seems to be some, uh, disconnect there.
1:31:26
Uh, with President Trump, his team, whatever, whoever's controlling him,
1:31:30
uh, whoever put him in power he is not a lone wolf that can make things happen.
1:31:36
There's obviously a group behind him that supports him, guides him, and so forth.
1:31:42
Tina Peters is another great example, right?
1:31:44
So we have, uh, you know, Tina Peters, he, he pardoned her.
1:31:47
He demanded that she be released in Colorado.
1:31:50
Like the Pakistani government, a terrorist country, and we have a
1:31:54
Colorado, which is basically acting like a terrorist state and keeping
1:31:59
Tina Peters in jail after she's been pardoned the first time in history that
1:32:04
a president has pardoned someone and then been kept in prison first time.
1:32:08
And President Trump does nothing, right?
1:32:10
So there are some, there's some things, there's some things that aren't
1:32:15
getting done that should be done.
1:32:17
So, uh, you be the judge, right?
1:32:20
Uh, I'm just pointing stuff out.
1:32:23
Alright.
1:32:23
So, Epstein staffer makes sickening omission about two
1:32:27
girls buried near his ranch.
1:32:28
Two really just two, right?
1:32:31
Uh, I think there's probably lots of bodies out there.
1:32:33
So he has Zoro Ranch, like, Zoro, the, the sword, the, the
1:32:38
guy with the mask on his eyes.
1:32:41
And, uh, he had the Sword Zero.
1:32:43
I like he made a z and, uh, I, I always liked to watch him.
1:32:47
He was good.
1:32:48
Uh, I like swords, right?
1:32:50
So anyway, so this was a huge ranch.
1:32:54
Uh, it was, uh, roughly 7,500 to 7,560 acres.
1:33:02
Oh my God.
1:33:04
That's like all of Lake Tahoe and then some.
1:33:07
That's insane.
1:33:09
Wow.
1:33:10
So, uh, who, who funded that?
1:33:13
Who paid for that?
1:33:14
He paid for that with all the money he made when he was
1:33:17
an investment, uh, banker.
1:33:18
Uh, I don't know.
1:33:19
It's seems, uh, pretty suspect to me.
1:33:22
But, uh, I think somebody else is probably funding this stuff.
1:33:25
And as we'll find out, records show, uh, that former Governor Richardson of New
1:33:33
Mexico met with Epstein for years, right?
1:33:35
So more and more people are gonna come out that were involved and
1:33:43
it's going to be very interesting.
1:33:45
So, New Mexico, as I said, is a very suspect place Now, Jeffrey Epstein, I
1:33:52
guess, was involved in a company that, uh, had bio weapon labs in, uh, Ukraine.
1:34:01
Now, remember when Tulsi Gabbard you know, broke away from the Democrat
1:34:04
party and then claimed that there were bio weapon labs that the US
1:34:08
had bio weapon labs in Ukraine.
1:34:11
And we had Mitt Romney, uh, senator from Utah who said that she was
1:34:16
a traitor and should be executed.
1:34:18
And then the US military said, eh yeah, we got like 34, uh,
1:34:23
bio weapon labs and Ukraine.
1:34:26
So what do we give all that money to, uh, Ukrainians for, to fight for?
1:34:30
So they keep that land.
1:34:31
So we keep those bio weapon labs.
1:34:32
Now, if those bio weapon labs are not able to stay there.
1:34:37
Because Trump is trying to negotiate this war and stop this war.
1:34:39
So I guess we can keep the bio weapon labs there.
1:34:41
I don't know.
1:34:42
But I've heard that if, uh, those bio weapon labs don't live in Ukraine, that
1:34:48
the Russians, which I hope they do take all of Ukraine and drive the Nazis out
1:34:53
and shut down all of those bio weapon labs they're gonna come to New Mexico.
1:34:59
That's what I'm hearing.
1:35:00
So we got a lot of acres there in that Zuro Ranch.
1:35:02
So, uh, they could put a lot of bio weapon labs there and hide 'em.
1:35:05
Uh, they got underground facilities, all kind of crazy stuff, guys.
1:35:09
So let's look at that time when there was a subterranean battle with aliens in
1:35:18
New Mexico where 60 people died, right?
1:35:22
Uh, special forces guys, they battled aliens in a tunnel system.
1:35:27
They were building in New Mexico.
1:35:30
There you go.
1:35:31
So, Dolce, Dolce, New Mexico is located right on the Colorado New Mexico border.
1:35:37
It's a quaint town with a population just under 3000.
1:35:40
It's a tribal headquarters of the Ali Ja, uh, Apache Reservation, like Apache
1:35:48
I'm probably butchering that name, but Apache Reservation Doce, New Mexico is
1:35:52
located right on, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:35:54
All right.
1:35:54
And it's blah, blah, blah.
1:35:56
Alright, so Philip Schneider.
1:35:58
We're gonna listen to him in a second here.
1:36:01
An explosive engineer who worked for the US government with high level security
1:36:05
clearance claimed that in 1979, he participated in the building of a secret
1:36:12
underground base in Dolce, New Mexico.
1:36:16
It was there that a horrific battle played out, leaving 60 humans dead
1:36:21
and countless subterranean aliens fighting for their lives, right?
1:36:26
So this is a, uh, uh, a nuclear powered tunnel tunneling system right here.
1:36:32
US Air Force, don't they fly planes?
1:36:34
What are they do in tunneling, right?
1:36:36
So, uh, very, very, very strange stuff, right?
1:36:41
All right, so let's listen to, uh, what, uh, Schneider has to say
1:36:46
about that underground, uh, war.
1:36:48
Have a little clip, and we're gonna pull that up.
1:36:50
And, uh, listen, if you haven't listened to this yet, this is
1:36:53
very, this is a Wowser, right?
1:36:56
So he basically lost fingers.
1:36:59
So he, I don't know if he shows them here, but I've seen in another video
1:37:02
where he, he had his fingers blasted off, uh, in this war with the aliens.
1:37:07
And like said like, you have special forces guys, the best of
1:37:12
the best down there fighting, and 60 of 'em die fighting aliens.
1:37:16
You don't hear this in textbooks or in schools, do you?
1:37:20
Nope, but it happened.
1:37:24
All right, so let's listen.
1:37:27
The alien thing is more than just a, what I'd call a non-visible threat.
1:37:33
We, on the surface, first of all, all information dealing with alien
1:37:37
or alien produced technology or alien produced vehicles, or any other kinds
1:37:43
of things well hidden from the American public, our black budget, for instance.
1:37:48
I know what you're saying.
1:37:49
I can hear you.
1:37:51
What does this have to do with Jeffrey Epstein?
1:37:53
Remember, Jeffrey Epstein is a financier, right?
1:37:58
There's another strange thing, uh, I didn't have, I didn't have time
1:38:02
to pull it up, but I know of this Catholic priest in New Mexico, close
1:38:08
to the Zoro Ranch massive pedophilia.
1:38:12
Uh, they, they like took down a lot of these, uh, priests in the New Mexico area.
1:38:17
So this is, uh, definitely a problem.
1:38:20
Now, these things have to be funded, these underground military bases, uh, these
1:38:24
dumbs, deep underground military bases.
1:38:28
And, uh, Jeffrey Epstein is a money laundering expert, and so he's in
1:38:34
based with a ranch in New Mexico,
1:38:37
garners 1.02, $3 trillion every two years.
1:38:44
All right.
1:38:45
So he's talking about, this is way back, I don't know when, what year this was.
1:38:49
What year was this In?
1:38:50
Nineties.
1:38:51
Something like that.
1:38:52
Maybe 80 seventies, whatever it was.
1:38:54
Uh, but he's talking about a trillion dollars back then.
1:38:59
And that would be like, I don't know, a trillion would be like,
1:39:01
I don't know, 50 trillion now.
1:39:04
I don't know what it is, but, uh, that's 21 trillion, right?
1:39:08
21 trillion.
1:39:09
Going once, going twice.
1:39:11
Sold to th bidder.
1:39:12
All right.
1:39:12
So we have a lot of money.
1:39:14
Again, this being laundered is 21 trillion yearly or is 21
1:39:20
trillion over a period of time.
1:39:22
So he's talking about a trillion dollars for these bases right now.
1:39:25
Now, listen to the number.
1:39:27
It's over $500 billion a year.
1:39:31
Right now.
1:39:32
There are 131 active chief under ground military bases in the United States.
1:39:40
There's
1:39:41
now, again, this was decades ago that he's talking.
1:39:47
Maybe they built a lot more since then.
1:39:49
I would think so.
1:39:50
Maybe some of them have been destroyed to maybe the good
1:39:54
guys really are destroying them.
1:39:56
I don't know.
1:39:56
What do you think?
1:39:57
Right?
1:39:58
Doubtful,
1:39:59
1,477 of them worldwide, each one had,
1:40:04
alright, so 1,477 of them worldwide, uh, just here in, uh, I guess Milit U us.
1:40:13
So 1400 of 'em all around the world.
1:40:15
Jesus.
1:40:17
That means, uh, a lot of these countries are robbing their people and building
1:40:20
these underground military bases.
1:40:22
This alternate civilization
1:40:24
as an average cost of 17 to $19 billion.
1:40:30
Each one is, uh, built in the site, oh, it used to be take a year
1:40:35
to two years to build each one.
1:40:37
And now they're capable of building a couple of 'em a year,
1:40:40
uh, with sophisticated methods.
1:40:42
Uh, my colleague, uh, Al Beic has actually been on some of the high speed railways.
1:40:50
The magneto leviton trains to connect all the deep underground military
1:40:55
bases within the United States.
1:40:56
He's been on a Mach two train and floats off of a single rail at a three
1:41:02
quarters of an inch off the rail, and is, uh, what you'd call high tech.
1:41:07
We have nothing like this on the service.
1:41:09
The public basically has been totally lied to.
1:41:13
We're considered stupid or even moronic in some cases.
1:41:17
It's gotta stop.
1:41:18
If, if we're gonna gain our country back, we must, and I repeat, must regain, we
1:41:24
must instill in our public officials, anybody that goes and does public
1:41:29
service, they must tell us the truth.
1:41:35
Grim Lake is where the infamous area 51 s four s two a CIA base.
1:41:42
Uh, uh, it was originally a bombing range, a nuclear test site.
1:41:47
It was later become the most secret base in the United States.
1:41:51
Um, it employs over 18,000 workers working shifts of 12 hours of at a whack.
1:41:58
Most of 'em work in the cover of darkness Like Us.
1:42:02
We built, uh, nine underground military bases there, each with an average, uh,
1:42:09
capacity Capable was basically a city underground, roughly four and a quarter
1:42:14
cubic miles hollowed out underground.
1:42:17
They have boring machines, for instance.
1:42:21
Now, boring machines, for instance, they don't bore.
1:42:24
They literally vitify and melt the rock.
1:42:26
You flaggo the rocks.
1:42:28
A very sophisticated laser melting and deflating system die.
1:42:35
However, in the process.
1:42:41
Uh, one of them did this.
1:42:43
I re, all I remember is that he just kinda waved his hand in front of his chest.
1:42:48
And the next thing I know, this blue beam hit me and just
1:42:51
literally opened me up like a fish.
1:42:53
And every, uh, burnt my fingers right off of me.
1:42:57
And it was some form of electrical force because the kinda like hit being hit by
1:43:03
a lightning bolt, burned all my toenails off of me completely crispy critter my
1:43:07
left foot burnt the shoe right off of me.
1:43:11
Um, all I remember was the smoking remains and I'm laying almost,
1:43:16
I'm still conscious, but in and out of, didn't remember much.
1:43:22
And there was a, a green beret that was right behind me that risked his life.
1:43:26
In fact, he died, but he risked his life.
1:43:29
He shoved me back in the bass and hit the button and took me up.
1:43:33
I wouldn't be alive talking to you today.
1:43:34
It wasn't for him.
1:43:36
Come forever, indebted.
1:43:38
He lost his wife.
1:43:40
66 Secret Service agents, green Berets.
1:43:44
Black Berets, cracked troops, lost their lives because the government, our
1:43:49
United States government lied, did not tell us anything about the alien threat.
1:43:59
There's a war underneath there, and I'm talking dead serious.
1:44:04
It's been going on since that time.
1:44:08
Uh, yeah, so crazy.
1:44:11
I mean, you can look at it, uh, a lot of people have and just dismissed it.
1:44:14
But, uh, I believe absolutely it happened.
1:44:17
Uh, I've talked to other people when they were still alive.
1:44:20
All right?
1:44:20
So a lot of people have died, uh, that were, had any kind of, uh, connection
1:44:25
with that or talked about that.
1:44:27
Uh, but that is, uh, something that really happened, right?
1:44:32
And, uh, you know, I don't, it's like a not a lot of people watching.
1:44:37
So, maybe I just burnt people out, you know, talking, going down this road, but,
1:44:41
uh, rabbit hole, but we're gonna continue.
1:44:44
I don't know, maybe some people will pick it up.
1:44:45
So, Holman mag Love train, uh, on the surface it is a thing.
1:44:51
So they tested it.
1:44:52
Holman high speed test track, uh, as you guys see here.
1:44:57
Uh, this is in, uh, Mexico, go.
1:45:02
So United States Department of Defense, air Force Aerospace ground
1:45:05
test facility located at Holman Air Force Base in South Central,
1:45:10
New Mexico, New Mexico, New Mexico.
1:45:13
So all of these different things that are going on there.
1:45:16
Jeffrey Epstein, uh, there remember they did the, uh, nuclear test there?
1:45:25
All right.
1:45:25
The, uh, nuclear site, Alamogordo, new Mex, New Mexico, the Trinity site,
1:45:32
uh, where they did the first, uh, bomb test, U Uranian based nuclear bomb, uh,
1:45:39
was there in New Mexico, Alamogordo, or, so remember, they were like, you
1:45:45
know, looking through special glasses and they had blast proof windows.
1:45:50
And I guess a lot of those guys, you know, have, uh, have not,
1:45:54
uh, done well and they've passed.
1:45:58
Uh, but the ones that are living, if there's any of 'em still living or
1:46:01
they're finally getting compensation, uh, I was involved in, you know, helping
1:46:07
expose the burn pits and agent Orange and the nuclear test sites like that.
1:46:14
Some of them where they, uh, they would explode nukes, and then it would
1:46:18
send in troops, uh, right afterwards, just like cannon fo or like sheep.
1:46:26
And then a lot of those guys died and they couldn't get compensation
1:46:30
because it was a top secret event.
1:46:33
And so it wasn't on the books.
1:46:35
So the guys are trying to get you know, after they left the service, they're
1:46:38
coming down with all kind of, uh, problems from, uh, you know, going into this
1:46:43
nuclear bomb site right after it blew.
1:46:46
And they weren't able to, uh, have the, veterans Administration help them
1:46:50
because, uh, there's not on the record.
1:46:52
So, with the latest, uh, you know, burn pits and, uh, they, they finally
1:46:58
started helping those guys, right?
1:47:01
Uh, so I, I had those guys on that were promoting that and they got congress
1:47:05
to promote it, and they got, uh, people in the press like myself to promote
1:47:09
it, and it eventually got passed.
1:47:11
And so finally, uh, those guys are being compensated now.
1:47:16
So it's, uh, it's crazy.
1:47:17
So Roswell, of course, the Roswell alien crash site.
1:47:21
You got area 51, all in New Mexico, all in New Mexico.
1:47:27
So, uh, lots of stuff going on in New Mexico, right?
1:47:33
Lots of stuff that a guy with, uh, Jeffrey Epstein's background
1:47:36
capability, uh, could help fund and who knows who's doing the funding now.
1:47:43
Jeffrey Epstein is not dead, uh, absolutely knocked dead.
1:47:46
I said that right from day one.
1:47:48
Uh, some people, some people thought they were really cute to
1:47:51
say that he didn't kill himself, that somebody came and killed him.
1:47:54
No, the bigger picture is he's not dead.
1:47:58
Now.
1:47:58
This is Meg Moonbeam Occasionally you know, I come across her work.
1:48:02
Uh, she does a great job.
1:48:03
She's got, uh, high integrity, and I like her work a great astrologist.
1:48:07
So she talks about, I was like, looking for stuff, you
1:48:11
know, to share with you guys.
1:48:13
And I came across this.
1:48:15
So Meg Moonbeam basically breaks down Epstein's astrology and, uh, let's listen
1:48:21
to what she's got say for a little bit.
1:48:30
And the links in the description box below.
1:48:35
So it's kind of crazy because this latest Epstein file drop, it's kind of
1:48:44
feeling like Pizzagate all over again.
1:48:48
Okay.
1:48:48
Before we even get into the chart, shout out to all my fellow conspiracy
1:48:54
theorists, conspiracy bodies out there.
1:48:56
Okay?
1:48:57
Not that anybody,
1:48:58
yeah, us conspiracy baddies, we should get compensated.
1:49:01
Uh, we've risked everything and with not much compensation for it.
1:49:05
So, that's great.
1:49:06
We don't really do it for the compensation.
1:49:08
We do it to try and help humanity.
1:49:10
That's why all of us are doing this.
1:49:12
She goes into, uh, like I'm telling you right now, there's a
1:49:15
lot more to this Epstein thing.
1:49:18
And I, when I was, I was seeing what she had on the astrology side, she went down
1:49:23
a rabbit hole like, I'm taking you guys.
1:49:24
And I'd already planned my show.
1:49:27
And then I just happened to run across hers, which sometimes
1:49:30
happens with, uh, intuitive people.
1:49:31
They pick up on other intuitive stuff.
1:49:33
Uh, and here we go.
1:49:35
So we'll listen to, or I won't interrupt anymore.
1:49:37
It's better if they've been into conspiracies for a long time.
1:49:39
But for me personally, I've, I've been into this stuff for a really long time
1:49:45
and I can remember back in 2016, my best friend Sonny, who's a fellow Scorpio to
1:49:50
me, um, Sonny from Pluto, we were totally tripped out when Pizzagate got released
1:49:57
and most people were not open to it.
1:50:01
They thought it was totally crazy.
1:50:02
There weren't as many people awake as there are now.
1:50:06
And interesting that there's like this 10 year later divide or cycle,
1:50:12
where now we're 10 years later, beginning of 2026, and there's
1:50:16
the been this Epstein file drop.
1:50:19
That is basically affirming that Pizzagate was real, going onto a whole other level
1:50:27
of the darkness and the shadiness of what has gone on in the Epstein files.
1:50:35
Very interesting stuff.
1:50:36
We've just had 3 million documents released from this latest drop
1:50:41
that just happened this past week, beginning of February, 2026.
1:50:45
And this past drop has been revealing further how much of a evil mastermind
1:50:51
Jeffrey Epstein really is this new drop shows that he was plotting with Bill Gates
1:50:58
to create a pandemic, be a part of COVID.
1:51:03
He was a part of the transgender revolution as per emails
1:51:08
with a Harvard scientist.
1:51:10
He might have invented Bitcoin, possibly.
1:51:13
And
1:51:15
so, uh, and the Harvard thing comes up again.
1:51:18
So Harvard president Trump has been hard on, hard on Harvard, right?
1:51:22
So, uh, and, uh, we just had the, uh, the, who was it?
1:51:28
The director of, uh, department of War Peak Heep has said that, uh, he's gonna,
1:51:34
you know, like cut ties with Harvard too.
1:51:37
The Secretary of War, department of War is gonna cut ties with Harvard.
1:51:43
What, what ties, so there's lots of, uh, you know, reveals that
1:51:47
are starting to come through.
1:51:49
And, uh, we're, we're literally scratching the surface of how deep this goes.
1:51:53
So I'm showing you just in New Mexico alone, just how
1:51:58
deep that rabbit hole can go.
1:52:02
Been a part of Q4 chan.
1:52:04
Somehow there were emails between him and the creative four chan
1:52:09
also he was plotting to ruin Trump.
1:52:14
That's, and that's not even everything there, there is a lot.
1:52:17
So this is why I'm feeling
1:52:21
to do a series on this subject.
1:52:23
'cause there is so much to unpack here.
1:52:27
And this is important.
1:52:29
This is extremely important because this is exposing the dark cult that
1:52:36
has been in control of the planet.
1:52:41
And we are only going to move forward as a society into this
1:52:46
new golden age of Aquarius.
1:52:48
Great awakening time.
1:52:50
If we can face the shadows of what's been really going on here
1:52:55
and this whole Jeffrey Epstein piece, it's a very big part of it.
1:53:00
This is not gonna go away.
1:53:01
I'll tell you guys that right now.
1:53:03
This is not something that is going to be able to be hidden forever.
1:53:07
And I'm specifically talking about the.
1:53:10
Redacted names in the files.
1:53:13
We will, I believe, astrologically get a list eventually of exact names
1:53:21
I'm gonna get very interesting.
1:53:24
What strikes me right away when I look at Epstein's chart is he
1:53:27
is a zero degree Aquarius Sun.
1:53:32
Okay, now zero degrees in Nicholas Vic's degree theory is the strongest degree.
1:53:37
It is the strongest expression of that placement right now.
1:53:43
Jeffrey Evil mad scientist, possibly mastermind.
1:53:50
Evil genius.
1:53:52
Okay?
1:53:52
Some of you guys might not like me saying that, but he is, I think, a
1:53:56
genius Aquarius to be able to have pulled off everything that he pulled off.
1:54:03
Got all this blackmail on so many different powerful people
1:54:08
to be, uh, managing multiple locations that he lived in.
1:54:14
Yes, I do think he was controlled.
1:54:16
He is controlled rather by a greater force, and he is a puppet.
1:54:23
But, um.
1:54:24
He actually acted out all those things, and possibly even experiments, maybe
1:54:33
David Ike, I can't remember, but lots of different clips where she talks about,
1:54:37
there was weird shit going down there.
1:54:41
Not just trafficking of minors.
1:54:47
Not just abuse, not just blackmail, not just all these really
1:54:52
dark things she talks about.
1:54:56
She believes there was even cloning going on.
1:55:01
Boom.
1:55:01
Uh, so yes, uh, Meg Boone Beam.
1:55:05
So, uh, outstanding, uh, breakdown.
1:55:08
I highly recommend her work.
1:55:10
And, uh, this, I listened to the whole thing.
1:55:12
It's, uh, it's very insightful.
1:55:15
She dives, uh, nice and deep into it.
1:55:17
Uh, so I highly recommend it.
1:55:19
So, uh, yeah, we're gonna continue to see you know, more of this stuff.
1:55:23
It's gonna get bigger and bigger and bigger.
1:55:26
It's like a lot of people are like, I can handle it.
1:55:31
Give it all up.
1:55:33
You're gonna find out, right?
1:55:35
All right.
1:55:35
So it's coming hot and heavy and, uh, some of this stuff, uh, you're,
1:55:39
you're gonna be like, I, whoa, hello?
1:55:41
Hello.
1:55:43
Yeah, and that's gonna be that way for a little while now.
1:55:46
Now.
1:55:48
So I've been focusing on New Mexico and how bio labs are
1:55:51
probably gonna come there.
1:55:53
And we also have Arizona State University.
1:55:56
So right next door there's lots of land in Arizona.
1:56:00
So they have a, an Arizona State a SU.
1:56:04
They have a Biodesign Institute.
1:56:07
Uh, the latest research in security our nation faces threats on many fronts,
1:56:12
including digital and biological biodesign
1:56:17
is stepping in to help us and ultimately the world stay more secure.
1:56:23
Biodesign, you guys are involved in bio design.
1:56:27
Uh, why?
1:56:27
Yes.
1:56:28
Right.
1:56:29
Bio design sounds a lot like, uh, developing bio weapons.
1:56:34
Epstein files revealed deeper ties to scientist than previously thought.
1:56:41
So, uh, the Institute of Technology in Cambridge, uh, which led, uh, he
1:56:46
gave, uh, 800,000 to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, MIT, and, uh,
1:56:52
led to two scientists having to resigned.
1:56:56
Uh, for now they'll probably come in the back door and continue their
1:56:59
work, but for now, they've resigned.
1:57:02
Uh, or, or they've moved on to someplace else and they're doing the same thing.
1:57:05
So it's kinda the way that works.
1:57:07
Look here and over here.
1:57:09
We're gonna put 'em back over here.
1:57:11
So the files also show that Epstein maintained a list
1:57:14
of nearly 30 top scientists.
1:57:17
Now, does this sound like, you know, uh, he's maintaining this,
1:57:21
these lists, uh, oh, come on down, you know, have a good time.
1:57:25
We'll take you out the island.
1:57:27
And, uh, we have a lot of, a lot of nice girls and, uh, so I don't think so.
1:57:32
So as we're seeing, like I'm saying, Epstein was involved in much, much more.
1:57:40
And what this does, it exposes much more of the deep state, right?
1:57:45
How Ukraine appears in the latest Epstein files.
1:57:48
So, uh, the files link to the late financier.
1:57:54
So what do you think?
1:57:55
Do you think, uh, Zelensky is involved?
1:57:58
Oh, you know, he is right.
1:58:01
Uh, so the files linked to late financier convicted sex Jeffrey Epstein
1:58:06
include email conversation with at least two modeling agencies in Ukraine.
1:58:11
Uh, and, uh, two of the top, uh, you know, the capital, Kiev and Odessa.
1:58:17
So modeling agencies.
1:58:19
And of course, you know, like we talked about, uh, they had
1:58:22
the bio weapons laboratories.
1:58:24
We already see that he's involved with scientist, right?
1:58:27
So, and Harvard.
1:58:29
Harvard and, uh, a lot of other things guys.
1:58:33
Larry Summers also involved with Larry Lawrence, Henry
1:58:38
Summers American Economist.
1:58:40
He served as the 71st United States Secretary of the
1:58:43
Treasury from 1999 to 2001.
1:58:49
Sounds like the Bush years as the 27th president of Harvard University from 2001
1:58:56
to 2006, and as the eighth director of the National Economic Council from 2009, 2010.
1:59:03
So Larry Summers also who was I guess on some kind of board at Har
1:59:08
Harvard has had to step down as well.
1:59:11
Alright, uh, amidst the, uh, the Epstein reveals deeply ashamed, he says Larry
1:59:18
Summers steps away from public life after her, you know, being revealed to
1:59:22
have been on the Epstein email list.
1:59:26
How many more are gonna go down?
1:59:28
All they're doing is just stepping away.
1:59:29
They're gonna, they're gonna step away and do their own.
1:59:31
They do the same thing, guys.
1:59:33
Uh, they're gonna step away and it's like, everybody's like, oh, he stepped away.
1:59:35
It's okay.
1:59:37
He sees, he's punished himself.
1:59:39
I don't think so.
1:59:40
Uh, they, they need a lot more.
1:59:43
Hal Jeffrey Epstein got his hooks into cheap, they call him cheap Bill Gates.
1:59:50
Now, if you saw my show that I did just recently.
1:59:55
With Craig Long, we talked I asked him, I, because he's got this prediction,
1:59:59
he predicted the Trump shooting.
2:00:02
Uh, he predicted the shooting with, uh, you know, the who's that one couple that
2:00:08
was, uh, doing the movies and, uh, he was like the on, geez, what's his name?
2:00:16
Can't think of his name.
2:00:16
Anyway he just recently died with his wife and his son killed him in that very
2:00:22
exclusive, uh, area of, uh, California.
2:00:26
So anyway, there's a lot of people that died in, uh, that
2:00:31
area and cheap Bill Gates.
2:00:34
Uh, I've been thinking, you know, there's a lot of negative
2:00:38
things coming out on Bill Gates.
2:00:39
So, Craig Glenn had said that, and then there's gonna be a third one, uh, and
2:00:44
the third one will be Reiner, uh, Reiner.
2:00:48
So I'm hearing it from the, uh, the wifey from Rob er, Rob Reiner.
2:00:52
Alright.
2:00:53
So Rob Reiner and his wife killed by the son, supposedly.
2:00:57
I don't think the son killed him, but maybe, maybe did.
2:00:59
I think it was ritually sacrificed and maybe the sun was part of that.
2:01:03
So anyway, there's a lot of people get stabbed there in that
2:01:07
area, so, uh, it's pretty crazy.
2:01:12
So, uh, how's Jeffrey Epstein got his hooks into cheap Bill Gates, whom he
2:01:15
accused of sleeping with prostitutes.
2:01:17
And, uh, now his ex-wife is like calling him out and you know,
2:01:22
he's, he's not looking good.
2:01:24
They're like, you know, I think he's gonna be the next guy.
2:01:28
They go.
2:01:29
And, uh, so it's gonna be somebody in the tech area.
2:01:32
Uh, that's what, uh, Craig Lund has said, and it's gonna be like a three.
2:01:37
So we had one shot for President Trump, two for the rioters, and
2:01:41
there'll be three for Bill Gates.
2:01:44
So, we'll, uh, bill Gates's ex, like show up and with somebody else and he
2:01:49
kills 'em all and himself or something.
2:01:52
I don't know, but I, I was thinking that it was gonna be a, it was gonna
2:01:56
be, uh, bill Gates and so did Chris.
2:01:58
Craig Lu.
2:01:59
So we'll see.
2:02:01
So let's look at, uh, maybe a few other things.
2:02:05
One other thing, and then I have to go.
2:02:08
All right, so there's, there's, uh, demonstrations, Minneapolis, Portland, and
2:02:12
Los Angeles ice protest ongoing right now.
2:02:18
So I'm just gonna give you what, what was showing, what they were doing today.
2:02:23
Uh, a little, little piece of it.
2:02:31
So to keep it up with the protest and who knows, uh, you know, how
2:02:34
much longer this is gonna continue.
2:02:36
This craziness,
2:02:52
the screen is black,
2:03:04
so go home.
2:03:06
Nazis.
2:03:06
Yes.
2:03:07
You protestors.
2:03:08
You Nazis go home.
2:03:10
'Cause that's really what it is.
2:03:11
Uh, it's, it's crazy and, you know, it's, it's a crazy world out there and, uh,
2:03:17
you know, the Epstein files, it's just part of, exposing, uh, the deep state.
2:03:23
There's a lot more to be exposed.
2:03:25
Uh, we're, we're just getting started.
2:03:27
Uh, so don't, don't get wrapped up.
2:03:30
Like I said, in the, uh, the sexual part, yes, that's a bad thing.
2:03:34
Uh, but there's a lot more there's the bio weaponry, there's the
2:03:38
scientists, you know, developing within the United States, something else.
2:03:41
And the, breakaway civilization that they're funding for trillions and
2:03:47
trillions of dollars under, under our feet that we're paying for.
2:03:50
So there's, it's crazy.
2:03:53
Uh, you know, just like, uh, they were fighting those aliens, uh, underground.
2:03:57
Uh, we're gonna be fighting them on the surface.
2:04:01
I think we already are.
2:04:04
I think, uh, uh, some of these people are basically, uh, just hybrid.
2:04:08
Hybrid reptilians.
2:04:09
Yep.
2:04:10
And so we'll see.
2:04:12
Aliens.
2:04:13
Yes.
2:04:13
Lots of aliens.
2:04:15
All right guys.
2:04:16
Lots of love.
2:04:17
Stay in the love vibration and I'll see you guys next time.
2:04:21
I.