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Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 408:1-409:1 · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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Shalom Benyakov Arie, OK, we are in.
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Simon Tavhet, Tavhet, we started Olive, it's a long one.
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We're going to recap today starting from the beginning of
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the Rama, really quick recap again.
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We sent out some pictures and what's up?
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From the back of Oswahadar, if a person makes their eru to homing
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by setting up bread outside of their home, their city 2000
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almost away, your new radius, the new, your new Muckhom Shvita
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residence is where your bread is, right?
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That's what you had kvana to be in the same spot as the bread,
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and that's what it is. And you only get the radius from
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there. Your thulum is 2000 almost, And
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if your 2000 almost ends up in the middle of a city, the city
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that you slept in, or any other city within that radius
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according to the Shokhanar, your thulum ends at exactly at that
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radius. And you do get the corners.
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It's a square, but you get you get the tomb of your bread, Even
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if it ends in the middle of the city, even if it ends in the
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middle of your home. You can't go one arm of beyond.
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You can't take another step beyond.
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Okay, that's what we learned yesterday.
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There are ma holds true, however, if here let's read it
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inside VA showroom that feel call to me that tobe M sahir.
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However, if you take the tomb from your bread, your arrow, you
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take the tomb and it ends in the middle of a city.
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So once you hit the once you hit the city, when you you start to
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enter a little bit into the city.
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Then Mihali, Kokola, Yerkula, even though really you do get
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this square, but since it encroaches, it reaches the city
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that you slept in. We're learning mission Borough
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points qualifies. It's only referring to the city
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that you slept in or were in a Benish mashas.
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So then mahalek bekhollhai IR kula you are, but you get your
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square. Plus you can walk anywhere
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within the city. You can't go of a little
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khutsala. You don't get an any amma extra
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north-south, east or West beyond the city.
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But you do get the entire city, the ishlahaka.
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And that's the Rama's position. Okay.
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And that's Mina. Gosh can ask for sure.
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OK, so let's keep going. The encounter Miratoba sofa Ear.
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And what happens if your arrow you gets its home of 2000?
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Almost. And it includes an entire it
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includes the entire city. So the alpha gobda dying ybor
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lifine ha ear kola IR Ki arba ammos dil armin on ybor IR kair
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lahakhme. So again, the Shokhanakh if you
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go back, I think it's shinsa di hat.
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Hey, the Shokhanakh doesn't hold of this irbora ear business.
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The Shokhanar says the city gets you go to the edge of the homes,
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the last house, or if there's a wall around the houses around
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the city, you count 2000 almost and beyond.
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According to the Rama, he holds every city.
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You don't start counting your tone of 2000 until you go.
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You get an IBOR, you get an extra 70, almost 70 and 2/3 all
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around the city. So really you get 2070 and 2/3
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beyond the city limits. That's the opinion of the Rama.
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So the Rama points out I hold of the Ibor is always Lahaka.
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It's always to make it better for you and you're going to see
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it goes similar. It's he uses it to give you make
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your tone bigger and shinsa dikhat and here he'll use it in
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either direction, whichever way it helps you.
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So if your city ends, what's it called?
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If your tone right, it's 2000. Anonymous, but not the Egor show
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here. The whole city is still
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considered for 4/4 onus, yeah, so it might help to look at a
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picture. But let's say you have on one
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side you have your ear, and on the other side you have your
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city and you get 2000 almost. And if it includes the city, so
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then what happened? So then that entire city counts
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only as Dalai Damos. And then you can keep going,
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whatever the examples was before, let's say 1000, and you
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get another 996 because the city only counts as four.
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Now what happens if it includes? So if it doesn't go beyond the
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ebor, right, it doesn't go beyond the extra 70.
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Almost. That city still counts as four.
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Almost. We don't say, ah, it's stuck in
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the middle. And now you have to count the
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whole city. At the same token, if it goes
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beyond the Ebor, then the whole city including the Ybor also
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counts as only Dalai Damos. So whatever, how you can use the
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Ybor Lahako in both directions. OK, hope that was clear.
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There were most of the short time here.
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That's right. Right.
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So that the whole city is included in your to home.
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So then that city is only counted as Dalai Damos.
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Yeah, if you don't mind, I'll read it with you again inside.
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It depends. It depends like I explained.
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I'll explain again with you again afterwards.
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But I explained that the E board could be on either side and
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whatever works out better for you.
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You can count the E board as dollar included in the dollar
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almost. Or if it doesn't, if the trum
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stops before then it doesn't ruin your city at your city
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still is dalla damos only call makhomshiniya erut khumin vishwa
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alpayim amma Nicole Rua. Now so normally what happens
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when you place your Eru out in the field, right?
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The typical case that we normally think of is out in the
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field. Where we're going to see it
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doesn't have to be like that is it's out in the field.
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So what's your makhom dalla damos?
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Only Dallamos. So then a solo lately What's up
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from Donald Rock and Mega Roja of Malcolm Shikano Boshita.
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So basically what it just means is again you can look in the
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picture you have a square of dollar by dollar Amos and you
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draw 2000 almost in each direction beyond the 2000 and
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then you're going to he's going to say it later on and then you
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make a perfect square around it. The Ineno Rock Arba Ammos, so so
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if one second, yeah, okay. Let's keep reading.
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It depends. If you put inside a city, we're
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going to learn later on. If you put it, if it's, we just
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read. If it's outside in a field, you
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get Dollar Thomas and that's it. And if it's out in a field,
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sorry, if you put your area tuning inside a different city
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or a different bungalow colony that you can reach.
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So now you get the whole bungalow colony or the whole new
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city, and then you make your whole new you measure 2000 in
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all four directions and then you get your new square.
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So he reads beam a no rock, Arba Amos, he going chain Aerobrich
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Sayakid. If it was out in the field and
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there's no Russia, Sayakid, so then I still live Korua, Alpine
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Mamba, Koruak, Alpine Rock, Berojav, Arba Amos in Zaviota
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just means you get exactly a square of it will be a square of
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4004 by 4004 as you get your dollar in the middle and 2000 in
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each direction and then you get your square and that you can see
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in one of the pictures. Nicole Mako Yeah.
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So also just as an example, it might be one of the pictures if
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your city is 1000 by 1000, alright, your new your new city,
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your new bungalow colony is 1000 by 1000 and you put your arrows
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there. So then it will be 5000.
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By 5000 will be your new area as you get 2000 in each direction.
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Beyond Okay Nicole Mako im kalta milatal sofair the kula ke arba
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amosa tar Lila Co rahba the yasha upayam hoots the ear.
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That's the phone. Vlad the room.
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OK, OK. Sorry I didn't bring a picture,
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so I sent out a picture. It will be easier to see it with
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a picture. The only mention softer than
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dying the sounds. Are always be clear to the
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misery, right? Yeah, someone just pointed out
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because you're always placing the east and West is the air of.
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So now I get into what about the other dimension, North, North
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and South Okay. So how does it work If so we
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learnt according to this what we're reading right now is only
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according to the Rama is according to the show Hanara.
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It's very simple. You look at your food, you get
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your 4004 by 4004 and that's it. And it doesn't matter how it
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ends up into a city, according to the Rama he holds, he gets.
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He points out, once your new tomb enters a city, if that's
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the city that you were at for beanish mushas where you slept,
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then you get to use the entire city.
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So what he points out is you get the whole city and one second
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okay. So it's so it depends if your
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tomb ends in the middle of the city.
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So then you could only stay within the tomb of your food.
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That's 4004 by 4004. Plus you can walk around the
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city. OK, it's in one of the pictures.
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But what happens if your tomb goes beyond the city next to
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you. In other words you're you have a
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very we're talking about not common cases.
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We're talking about very small narrow cities.
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It's okay. We're talking about very small
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narrow cities. So if you are you place in you
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go to the edge of your your city 1000 almost away you have you
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place your food and then your city right.
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It's a giant city of it's more narrow than 1000, almost so now,
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so it's not so practical. But then your tomb goes beyond
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the city. So what happens?
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That whole city is counted as Dalai Damos.
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OK, so that the Shokanar agrees, but what happens North and
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South? So the Ramas says since it's
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included, you're now you're allowed to go beyond that
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portion of the city. It doesn't expand your entire
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home, but where your city is now, you're allowed to go an
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extra 2000 almost beyond the city above and below.
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And that's the basic opinion of the Rama.
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And that's what the mission of Bureau says you can rely on.
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There is a big discussion. I don't want to get into too
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many details, but there's a big discussion in the kronium.
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First of all, do we follow the Rama that you can add 2000
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almost North and South beyond the city limits?
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And some say the only time you can apply that rule of the Rama
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that you can go 2000 almost beyond North and South is not
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only if the city is within the Tom east and West, but it also
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needs to be within the city North and South.
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Then you can go to the edge of the city, North and South and
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give yourself an extra little brick, an extra little 2000
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almost North and South. But if the city itself is even
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though east and West it includes the city.
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But since the city goes beyond North and South, if it goes
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beyond the 4004 almost then you can't keep on going another 2000
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almost wherever it ends, that's that's if you can do that again.
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The Rama is Mako. According to the way you most
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understand, there are not at least okay.
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Let's go on to bet okay. That wasn't too confusing but if
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you look at the picture hopefully it won't be bets
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Hamenia Aruba virchus ayake person places his eru in Eresha
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Sayakhi which this we mentioned already.
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You right you're in one city and now you want to put it inside
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another adjacent city that's within you're able to use it's
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home to get there and now but you put your air roof inside
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Iris just a Yahoo so obviously that's within 2000 almost of
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your city. Afilo hayta Medina gudula can
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inve even if you're the city is huge.
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It's as big as you shall I in New York.
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Whatever you want to call it. 1A big city like an inve if you IR
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khariva um me ara hariyala diurian, even if it's it's not,
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it's destroyed, it's not really lived in anymore as long as it's
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able to still live inside. So then, since there's walls,
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Nahale had Kula, the khutalapayam Amma lakol ruakh.
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So then you get the entire periphery of the walls plus 2000
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ammas beyond Okay right? But it still has to be Mukov,
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Mojito, okay, gimmel. How many?
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A Haruba bitoha IR shashabat ba? Laura Sakulam.
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You live in a city. You're in the middle of Ramabe,
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Chemish wherever you are, and you placed an Airuv inside the
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city. You didn't do anything.
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Ella Hariyu Kubniya Kulam Se is inside your city.
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You're already allowed to carry 2000 almost outside your city.
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So anytime you make an error inside the city doesn't do
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anything and it's as if you didn't even do it.
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And we say you still have this. You can count Cola Deos 2000
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almost from the edge of your city, not from where you put
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your bread. Allah Hareo Kubina here.
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Kulam Shishlam Panama. Karula Khutsa here the Khanium
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not on Aruba in como time it is you have we mentioned cases
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earlier where you can have a series of houses.
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You have a let's say square city, around city and then off
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of 1 edge you have a whole lineup of houses that are all
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within 70 or 140, almost of each other 141.
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So then you can they're all connected and if you place your
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arrow or mishnabura points out also according to this Rama, if
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you place it in your Ebor, your extra 70 almost.
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If you place your arrow anywhere within these chain of houses or
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within this ebor it's the same as placing it inside your city,
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you gained no benefit. Theoretically you're only would
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be you only would be hurting yourself.
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So we say your air of is nothing and I raise it.
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Cannot never talk here. It's as if you put it inside
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your city. You accomplish nothing and you
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don't have an air of Your food is not an air of and you just go
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by your regular home which is to your benefit dollar that's on a
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rube hoods at home. If a person placed his air of
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outside his home you go to the edge of your city.
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You can't do thousand almost. He miscalculated.
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He just the math that he was misinformed.
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He placed his arrow outside of the tongue and you put so then
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your arrow doesn't work. Your arrow only works if it's
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within 2000. Almost of your city has to be
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out of your city and no more than 2000 almost from the city.
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And again according to the Rama that would be 2070.
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So then not an Arab of hoods at home ain't no Klum.
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You accomplished nothing you didn't do anything doesn't hurt
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VA show at home you be so and you still have your home from
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your house. Because we say we assume the
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person would rather have his home as is Malcolm Shweta and
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have his air of have at home of the city versus have nothing.
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So that's the whole. I understand that if you didn't
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sleep there that night, but if you slept there, why wouldn't
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that be his muffling trees? Wait, Nassen Aruvo.
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The case of Nassen Aruvo is you slept in the city and you put
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the bread. Arab Chavez Beyond in 2000
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Amicides you slept? Near your Arab, watch your
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number. Well, of course that works.
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It works because you are your Arab, right?
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You don't need your food. The case that we're talking
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about is when you're in the definition.
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The case we're talking about is when you're in the city and your
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food is way outside your city. Beyond 2000, almost.
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We're going to learn. I don't know if we learned it
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yet, but a person makes an error either by being there.
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It's actually a mahloca in the gumara, which is really has all
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the ideal way to do it by being there physically.
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It's called rego. Or is it by food, which is the
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icker? Both work.
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It's a mahoga which is the icker, but both work okay.
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So obviously if you were there, then obviously that works
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because you were there. Okay tough Ted did Macomb Latina
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Taeru Halaq is about placing an arrow.
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Another 10 Aeru, the basic forest.
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A person places his Aeru in a basic forest, right?
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So a person has a cemetery here we're familiar.
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Okay whatever a cemetery. Does your error work?
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So ain't no error. So the Halaka first reads in the
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shahanara. You don't have an error.
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It didn't work. Why?
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Let's finish reading and we're going to see.
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We have to totally re understand the shahanara.
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The feesha beta kavaras asur behana.
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A Beta Kavaras is Asur Behana. So the whole basic of our Sasa
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Bahana, So what are we talking about the mission, Bora
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explains. We're talking about a room
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that's designated, that's built but with with with sticks, with
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wood or plaster, whatever it is concrete and that's your room
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and that's where the bodies are buried.
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So now I'll say that again mausoleum.
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So the whole room is a man made building and it's built for
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Kavarim. So the whole room has a din of
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Essar Hana and therefore you can't get benefit from this room
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and that's what you're doing with this arrow because you want
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to make shweta there to and to be there during Chavez to eat.
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So that's that's why it's it doesn't work if it would be in
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our but if you put it on the right, if you put it on, that's
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if you would put it on the ground.
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The mission of borough points out it would not be a problem
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because Karka is not us Sir. A bit a building could become us
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Sir Banna, but we can't uster the land.
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Yeah you know it's Mokoberto Carca.
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So the land is not a problem. So our cemeteries that we're
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used to, for the most part, they're outdoors and therefore
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it's not a problem. And he says even caves you dig
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out, that would also not be a problem because it's dug out,
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it's a cave, it's the stone from the ground, that is it's not
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built. So that has also a din of carca
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olam and it wouldn't be doesn't become us or bihana.
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So if a person actually does place his arrow in a cemetery
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for some reason, right, you cannot be able to use the
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ground. Yes, you can use the basic for
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us. However, can you use it if it's
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within Dalai Damos? So I believe even if it's within
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Dalai Damos of the cover, it's okay, Dalai Damos of the cover,
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it would be Okay. It seems that the mission of
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Bureau says that as well. And we're going to see by a coin
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that would be a problem in the cover says you can, right.
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And you can always walk. Yeah, that's right.
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And you can always walk away. Daladamus to eat and it's not a
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problem for a Cohane. It would be a problem if it's
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within Daladamus because he can't walk within Daladamus of
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the cover unless there's a wall separating them.
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Let's keep reading. We'll get to a coin The Cave on
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Sherrods of the Kiyoma Erusham Akhar Kiniyari Nannebo and since
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you want it there beyond the purpose is to be there.
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You want it to be there after banish mashas that's then that's
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a problem. Okay.
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Even though okay. Well let's be on the even it's
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come out with a pros. Now what can you place it in a
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beta pros. A beta pros is a field that has
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been plowed over cover. A cover that's been cemetery
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that's been plowed over. That's been plowed over that you
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found bones or something, OK, remnants of the.
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Deceased. So it's not necessarily
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guaranteed to be cemetery, it could be.
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It could be placed with the planting corn but in the process
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of planting they found bones allowed.
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OK you're you're adding quite a bit.
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The point if it's a basic corals that was plowed over and we're
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assuming that's all it is and then we're how you find out
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about it is incidental. But now we're assuming when
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you're there that there's no bones that are bigger than a
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barley XM kisera. And then even if you touch it
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was if it's the size of a barley then it's then, then you're
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matami by moving it not Oh well but but so anyway so it's a
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field that we're assuming doesn't have any bones left over
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that are still there that are the size of a barley.
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Okay, exactly how you determine that's beyond beyond today.
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But that's the assumption or at least since it's so unliking
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unlikely. So only me there, a banner so
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there because we're hoshish, it's us there.
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A banner for a coin to go in there, but it's not us, a
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director because we're it's Hazak or whatever.
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It's the most likely wherever he walks, at least at least
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wherever he walks, there won't be a bone big enough that he'll
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walk over or touch. OK, somewhere there's going to
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be at least one bone somewhere there maybe that's what I'm
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assuming. But it's not likely that he's
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going to be touching it or walk over.
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So therefore it's only a so therefore he's not he is not
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allowed to go in there. But you still can make an error
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over there. First of all, we could all go
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there, but what about that? He needs to be able to go there
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if he's making it for himself. The panashi.
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Aholi Kanesham and Migdalha Perrea.
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Sheena Park, the holy. Because there's two ways that he
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can go there. He can walk there, and as he's
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walking he can slowly, every step he takes, he can blow.
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And since we're assuming every bone is small that you're not
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going to be that just by Mahiel's is not a problem and
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we're just talking about moving a bone and he can walk and blow
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as he goes along. So therefore it's not a problem
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for him as long as he does that he is allowed to go there if he
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does that. And the other exception is
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because you can have him being carried in a in a in a carriage
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of some some sort and you carry him with strings or a small
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little drone helicopter and you can move him along and that's
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that. But that doesn't help you for
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going over. Mr. Borough points out an actual
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beta Claro because it's oh how Xarruk it's it's since it's
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moving it's not called a proper O hell it's not code States and
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he is he cannot cover. However, a coin is allowed to go
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into a basic claros if he is very careful and to stay within
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The Walking driving paths and you just make sure there's no
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overhangs, trees, whatever and he stays with beyond.
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I think it's 4th fucking from the walls or dial it almost from
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the actual Kavana. So technically lamesa, can you
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put an arrow in a basic our normal basic carvaros?
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Generally speaking, yeah, just keep it in the pathways,
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especially if you're calling. I think we'll stop, OK.